8.29: Friday Vibe - Hour 4

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
He is joining us here on his day off. What
a guy.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Dwight Mitchell is on vacation, but he decided to join
us in the studio. That means a lot to me.
Thank you, sir, appreciate you being here.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Well, I know you're a fledging radio host on your
new gig, and I just want to do my part.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
You're hey, you've been a big part of it so
far and we enjoy having you. And he's not in
his l MPD gear today, he's in his Louisville Cardinal polo,
which I like to see that. I guess it makes
sense whenever you know it's your day often, of course
it's a big weekend for U of L. But before
we talk cars, I do want to get your thoughts
on the season coming up a little bit later on.
But one of the things, we've had two different stories

(00:37):
this morning that I've referenced, and those are DUI arrests,
two completely different situations, and I'm not trying to ask
you about those specific situations.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
But when it comes to.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
A law enforcement officer pulling someone over and then getting
signs that this driver may be impaired, sometimes it's probably
pretty clear. Sometimes it may be something minor that most
would notice, but in your profession, clearly they're signs that
you would notice that most wouldn't think about. When the
breathalyzer is not quite at a zero point zero eight
but it's but it's close to it. And then the

(01:09):
officer has discretion. Is it based off of what they
observe and field sobriety? Is it just them feeling okay?
I know it shows this, but I don't feel it's
safe to put this person back on the on the roadway.
What's I guess what's the when it comes to the discretion,
what latitude do you have?

Speaker 4 (01:25):
It?

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Then that moment as an officer.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Well, Nick, you just named it. Oh you'll be a
great officer.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Oh hey, you know I like to hear that. It's
all of those factors. I guess.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
It's like when you're taking test, it's d all the above.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
It's all of those factors that officer has to take
into consideration deciding whether to make an arrest or to
cite someone. You know, the big thing about it is
it is the question of not so much what you did,
is what you didn't do a lot of times, because
if you let a person go and they go down
the street and either kill themselves or kill someone else.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
I'll get in that then you have a liability, so
on you the right.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yes, So it's a matter of discretion to Officers have
a lot of latitude to do a lot of things,
and based on your experience and what you observe at
the time of the stop, you know, you know, I
always rather say I'd rather be tried by twelve than
carried by six any day.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
In any of those cycful situations.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
So the bottom line to your question is the fact that, yes,
it's officer discretion. And then, like I said, with the experience,
over time you observe certain things, you know, I'll be
better off for me and this person.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
To make what I'm a decision they decide to make.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
And that's that's certainly a layer to it that I
would say most myself included, rarely ever think of is
that I if you're making the call of okay, they've
been drinking and they were honest, they're a little bit
below the legal limit, and I'm gonna I'm gonna trust
that they're gonna be okay. Some would say, well, hey,

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they let them off, man, they got a break, But Also,
you've you've decided that you're willing to put a lot
of things in your hands now because you've said, hey,
I'm given this person, I'm trusting them that they're that
they're at a level that they can get home and
if if not, again they can have an accident. And
you're talking about being liable.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
That's just right.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Again, that's just one of those one of the many
things I think when it comes to law enforcement that
most average folks like myself, it's just we've not been
in that world. We don't think about those things. But
that's a huge factor when you make that decision when
you've pulled somebody over.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
I'm sure, well, a.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Lot of decisions also make you know, it's it's one
of those situations where you know, damn if you do,
damn if you're.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Sure, yeah, yeah, And again that's there when it comes
to the discretion that officers have in certain situations. You
you especially if you've done this a while, you have experience.
You you know, when making a decision that you have
zero clue really how it, how it, how it plays out.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, in some situations you don't, But then there's some
of that are crystal clear and that's that's what happens
most of the sure, Yeah, and there are outliers that happen.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
So whenever, whenever someone is given a breathalyzer, and again
I feel I'm gonna sound ignorance asking this question. Is
just something I've thought about. A breathalyzer is specifically testing
for alcohol only correct. Correct, But you could clearly be
impaired and intoxicated on something other than that. Is that
where the blood test comes in.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yes, And you know one of the things the law
that was changed many years ago because the statue used
to be DW I drinking loud intoxicated, whether it changing
d R driving on the influence, because it could be
of anything at that stage. You know, if you're blowing zeros,
if I'm giving your best blowing zeros, I know that
if I feel like you're still impaired, it could be
from other things. And then you know, some blood drawing

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things of that nature that find out what's going on.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
And I'm sure there are different signs as far as
the impairment being alcohol related or maybe, And again I
wouldn't have the eye for it, but you know, sometimes
you can just see someone intel they're on something here
that's something people say quite a bit. But I'm sure
when you're pulling people over, you can pick up on
certain signs of certain things. And you know, most of

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the time, I'm sure those those clear signs, the crystal
clear ones. I mean, it's a good thing to see
because you know, hey, there's really no just no, there's
no consideration here. I know what I need to do
to keep people safe.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, as soon as you come to the car, you
smell alcohol, you know, that's a good sign, good clue, right,
there are bellowing smoke coming out, of course, and smell
like cigarettes. You know, you know, it's it's a whole
lot of things that go there. But not to make
light of it, but those are really it's that simple.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Now, when it comes to someone who is underage of
drinking age, if they admit, like let's say they do
a breathalyzer and they're at zero point two but they're nineteen,
is that an arrestable offense.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Yes, it could because they're not supposed to be drinking
it all.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
But that's yeah, of course, But that's back to like
more discretion. Correct, It's you know you have.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Well, here's the difference when you're a minor in that
sense do UI laws.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Let's say they're sixteen, and that's the case. Traffic laws
are the same for sixteen year olds as it is
for fifty year old.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
There is no juvenile laws type.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
So you got a license, you get a license.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yes, so you're judge and you're under the traffic rules.
You're under the same thing than an adult would be.
So yes, when when it's about aged, but it's really
not that it's about behavior, that's of course again what
an officer would do.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
And that makes total sense because I have seen different
bodycam footage from just across the country where someone will feel, hey,
I only had a wine cooler.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
It's uh, and there was one too many for you.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Exactly and they didn't realize You've just admitted that you
were drinking and you're not allowed to because you're not.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
Of age, so you go and it was one too many.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
For you absolutely now in your experience, and I guess
not only you as as an officer, but obviously your
history with LMPD. Not to make you sound like an
old man, but you've been doing this a long time,
do I how nine out of ten, eight out of ten,
seven out of ten will you pull someone over for
it being a traffic stop, speeding, maybe you maybe you

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sent some some some reckless driving because maybe they're impaired.
How many give you a hard time? Not you specifically,
but just in in that line of work, because it
clearly happens, and and it's uh, you know, I don't
think it's the way to go about it if you're
someone who you know, Sometimes it just seems like people
are looking for the instigate, looking to be difficult for

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reasons I don't really know. Sometimes you find out it's
because they're not they're not well, they're intoxicated, or whatever
it may be. But I just I never thought about it.
And I'm putting you on the spot here, but like,
how rare is that? How common is that for somebody
to just be combative right out of the gate and
and just give you a hard time?

Speaker 4 (07:37):
And it happens.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
But I would say most of the people when they're
caught there saying you know, family got caught, you know,
and I'll take my risk because how many times should
I've gotten a ticket?

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah I didn't.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Uh, So you know, I think most people, I mean,
there are instances where it happens, and those usually the
real guilty people, because when they get that belligerent, that
means it's probably something else going on they want you
to They trying to distract you.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
I think I've seen that more, not so much.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
The fact you stopped them is that you stopped them,
and I got some other stuff going on, because a
lot of times they're convicted. Feelings are their possession of
things they shouldn't be, on top of maybe speeding whatever
the initial reason for the stop was, and it just
kind of adds on as you go and you don't know. Again,
I've said this many times, you cannot predict human behavior

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and how it's going to be and why people do
what they do.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
And some people think that's what they can do.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
And think that officers will back down, but they feel
pretty confident in pulling you over something that is generally
going to take place.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
And it could be for you didn't come to a
complete stop at a stop sign, but yet you know
that that's not a crazy offense. But your your behavior
makes me feel like I may be pulling you over
for something else. What potentially are you hiding here? One
thing that I just never think about. But a lot
of people, more than they should at least I don't
know the exact number. But people drive with a suspended license, right,

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and that's something it's illegal. You clearly cannot do that.
And it seems as if they know that they didn't
get put over for some big time offense. But man,
they're hoping you don't find out that license is suspended.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Oh yeah, you know. And that's the thing, because when
it's suspended, you don't have one.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
So that's the deal, yep.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
And it's a privilege to drive. It's not right. You know,
you got to go this, You got to go through
a certain Maybe maybe I'm onto something here. I mean,
you know, you've been educating the last year. You know what,
I'm gonna sign you up.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
We need guys like you and you that curious so
you can come on and make a little money with
you do that.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Hey, your community that.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
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on the radio anymore, that may that may be something
to consider.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
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Speaker 1 (09:34):
Hope my wife's listening.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
All right, Thank you do. I appreciate you coming in
on your on your day off. Enjoy the holiday weekend
and louisvill football. Let's get it started right right, my brother,
I'll be there stuff, take care, all right, all right,
let's get to a quick time out. We've got tracking
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eight forty WHS seven thirty five.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Here on a Friday morning.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Appreciate your hanging out with us as we get we
help get the holiday weekend started. We will be out
on my day and of course enjoying the holiday three weekends.
There's nothing better. And it always makes me think about
life what it could be if we had four day
work weeks. I mean, I don't think it'll ever happen.
And anytime it comes up, you know, you can find
those studies that say, well, actually employers can get more

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out of their employees if they you know.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Give them.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
And I don't know if any of that's actually true,
but this is something that I would I would hope
would happen if we ever get there. And this is
silly hypothetical, I guess, but if we're getting, if we're
getting three days of the weekend, having Friday be the
day off instead of Monday would be so essential in

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really making it feel like you're getting an added break
because I feel like if you've got Monday off, and
I guess it's just an example of how you can
manipulate your mind about anything when it comes to like
tom is the most consistent thing in the world, right,
and yet it, you know, doesn't always seem that way.
Certain things seem like all the drags out forever. Wow,
that went by really quick? Where did time go? But
if I'm off Monday, I'll take it, and I'm happy

(11:01):
to be off this Monday, but it's really just kind
of prolonging to get back to work. If I'm on Friday,
I feel like I'm stealing time, like, yeah, I'm out
of here early. And again, it's the same thing. Having
a Friday off or a Monday off would in fact
give you the same type of three day weekend. I
just I don't know. I feel like there's something about
something about a Friday. And again, Friday is a workday
like Monday is. Yeah, you don't work. Is hard, probably,

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but it's just a reminder that the mental component of
I know that I got to work today, but tonight
I'm loose. I don't have to get up. You can
go to work Saturday. Same thing on Sunday. And that's
why I think Friday again, despite being a typical work
day like the rest of the week, it's just different.

Speaker 6 (11:43):
It has a different vibe.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
You're right, And when even coming down here, like on
Saturday mornings, when I wake up on Saturday morning, people
are like, oh, you gotta get up and go to
work on Saturday.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
It's not work. And Nick, I think you'll agree with me,
and I know John Shannon will.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
What we do.

Speaker 6 (11:55):
We get to do this. We're fortunate to get to
do this.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
We are not.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
And I'd try to remind myself of that, yeah, a lot,
but I can probably remind myself more right. We we
genuinely love what we do. And I guess at times
you just get lost in the shuffle and you don't
realize that that's pretty rare thing that a lot of
people don't get to do. You know, we don't make
We don't make millions of dollars by any means, unless
unless you've got a Scutfitz shial contract.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
That's a different situation.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
But but you know, to know that, like we actually
get up and enjoy this is something I probably don't.
I don't tell myself enough.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
No, and it's a cool vibe when you why when
you come down here on a Saturday, it's awesome because
the city has a different feel to it. And I
think more importantly, and I've talked about this for years
and this show, is that when you come out on
a Saturday and I leave the parking garage here at
four Street Live, and you see the people that are
walking around down here, and you know they're from out
of town. They're either carrying their Louisville Slugger bats, they

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got the coffee in hand, they got their their bourbon
bags in hand.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
You know.

Speaker 5 (12:53):
That's why I have to kind of laugh sometimes when
people are downtown it's sore, dangerous.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
It's a boarded of war zone.

Speaker 5 (12:59):
Yeah, exactly, No, there are people down here, and especially
when we have events down here, which we have so many,
and big tip of the hat to Mayor Greenberg for
everything he's doing to bring everything down here. When when
you're able to come out, like we had the Bourbon
Run one time, I couldn't even get out of.

Speaker 6 (13:13):
Our studio because what what folks.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
Do is they they run the marathon and they come
up here on four Street Live and they get free
samples of bourbon.

Speaker 6 (13:21):
How you drink bourbon after running marathons beyond me.

Speaker 5 (13:24):
But it's we have that, we have food fests, we
have Dude, there's so much going on down here, and
you see it when you come down on Saturdays, and
so to your point, just kind of put a bow
on what you're talking about. From my standpoint, Friday, even
though you have to work the next day, you have
a it's just a cool vibe.

Speaker 6 (13:40):
It's just I love Fridays.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yep. And I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
The the weekend here in Louisville, there's a lot going on.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
The World Fest, which right I didn't. I didn't.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
I didn't have plans to go until my wife made
plans for us to go, because you know, that's kind
of what she does. She's in charge of those kind
of things. And I looked into sort of just more
about what it is. I was aware and familiar with,
familiar with it to an extent, but looking forward to it.
So yeah, And another thing I probably don't mention enough
is that when you see people that are here that

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are tourists that don't really have maybe any extent, and
maybe they're not here because they planned like some big vacation,
but it's a stop along the way. It's they're here
for an event or a work thing, but yet they're
going to take in what Louisville has to offer. I
think the best way for people to just realize that
we live in a pretty cool place that is not maybe.
I mean again, we got issues like anybody else. Clearly

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we all know that. But whenever I go to social
media and this is what I do, and maybe you
can give it a shot if you want. If you don't,
that's cool. But I found it really changing sort of
my whole perception of Louisville.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Not that I didn't. I mean, I'll always love Louisville.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
But if you go to social media and you search
on TikTok, Instagram, Twitter X, just search Louisville, like hashtag
Louisville or just search for Louisville and then you can
pick like location and you'll see posts that were tagged
in Louisville. And because of just how social media is,
most of them that are going to populate recent from
the recent ones is people that are traveling there, and

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like when you see people that are here and they
want to share with all their followers back in I
don't know Colorado or Texas or Oklahoma or New York. Hey,
I was in Louisville. Look at this cool distillery I'm
at Hey, I'm in Louisville. Look at this awesome soccer
stadium where I came and watched my club play. Because
this is the closest I'll ever see them. Those are
things that make me realize, you know what they're right, Like,

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I'm pretty proud that I'm from here. We do have
some pretty cool stuff going on, and it's easy to
just not lose It's easy to lose sight of that
because again, you're here every day, right, it's not new
to you, and you've probably already experienced some of these things,
and it's not that you don't like them, but you
know you've done it before. But I just I'm just
trying to do my part, which is probably not much
of anything. I'm not sure if the impact I can make.

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But if you still feel like, yeah, you know, downtown Louisville,
oh god, I mean I do get it to an
extent as far as just the fear of like safety,
but things can happen were in Louisville, and if you
actually went out and experienced something, you may realize, oh wow,
this place is cool or downtown than I thought, and
then you'll realize, yeah, you know, you need to be
aware of your surroundings. But it's not a situation to

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where you just shouldn't come downtown and enjoy what the
city has to offer.

Speaker 6 (16:15):
No, I believe me.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
I've bragged down this show numerous times that I love
going up to the Natty, not only see the Reds
or the Bengals, but to go visit my son at Xavier.
And the weekend we were up there, man, that's when
you turned me onto that. I didn't realize it happened.
They had a huge music festival. But they have violence
up there too, yep.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
And again it's just maybe it's just me, but when
I go to other cities, I'm geeked out just to
experience new places, not with any real plan necessarily, but
just wow, like, I'm gonna check this place sout.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
This is cool.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
And when I know and see other people doing that
to Louisville, it just, you know, it makes me appreciate that,
you know, we live in a pretty cool place. But again,
I'm sure others disagree, and that's fine, all right. Let's
get to a break. We've got trafficking weather updates on
the way, and we'll tell you how Americans are expected
to spend this Labor Day week and when it comes
to travel and whatnot, and we'll get back to sports
as well. Coming to It's seven to fifty five right

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here on news radio be forty whs. So Labor Day
weekend is here and Americans will will be doing some
travel this week. I don't know if I've ever traveled
for the weekend, this specific holiday weekend, other than maybe, yeah,
I went to Atlanta for the Louis of a football
game a couple of years ago. But usually these weekends
are are spent at home with family. But again, a

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lot of people their family and I guess their home
home originally is not where they reside, so that leads
to some travel. But according to research from Civic Science,
about three quarters of Americans this year won't be traveling,
which is which is down. I think it's about ten
percent down from a year ago. But cookouts are a
Labor Day tradition for many Americans. Twenty two percent planned

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a host or attend went over the weekend, and another
twenty four will be shopping for holiday sales. That is
something I was unaware of until this year, not even
just from reading this, but I've seen seemingly more promotion
for Labor Day weekend sales. And yeah, I mean sometimes
just hearing sale and thinking of it. It's kind of
like like Black Friday at certain places, Scott, Black Friday

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is like any other Friday. It's just the manipulation of Oh,
you're gonna get all these deals like you can. You
can say, hey, there's a sale, you're gonna save money,
and it could be a penny off of you know
what it typically is.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
That would be a foolish thing for people to do.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
But you know, I now hear sale and it does
nothing for me because I'm assuming the sale price is
still gonna be something I'm gonna look at and say, how.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Did you get that expensive?

Speaker 5 (18:27):
I'm the same way. It's gonna take a lot to
get me in the store when it comes to sales. Like,
for example, right along the lines of what you're talking about,
there's Labor Day deals by some of these restaurants that
offer them, like for example, but you dig further into
a Burger King's offering a bogo on their whoppers on.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Labor Day that's got you written all over it.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
Well, I'm like, okay, I can't afford the two fifty
or three bucks whatever it is to get the I mean,
and I don't want to sound like I'm ungrateful or anything,
because I'm not. But you can tell, like, for example,
you get like Checkers through offering four dollars Golilla's unbeatable
meal deal that's a cheese, double spicy chicken sandwich or
a burger fries and a drink in an apple pie

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four bucks.

Speaker 6 (19:06):
I mean, again, don't want to sound ungrateful, but you know.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
I mean, I don't think it's ungrateful. I think it's
just the realization that yes, for them, they're realizing they're
dropping their prices for you. But the and again, I
know I probably made a bigger thing of this than
I should have last week when it came up, or
maybe it was earlier this week. But McDonald's admitting that
they overpriced and had their combo meals being just too expensive,

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that really is a sign that Americans have made it
clear that they can't really afford or justify the expense
of paying what they felt like meeting McDonald's and I
guess other fast food places now have to charge because again,
sometimes it is they're having to raise money because they're
paying more to produce whatever it is they're selling you. Yes,
sometimes they take advantage of it, like a lot of

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things and disclaim, way, what are you gonna do inflation?
Like there are certain things and this may be an
interesting thing to look at down the line, maybe next week,
but things that got expensive but there's no justification. They're
just saying, well, hey, it's because of inflation. It's because
of the economy. Like if you don't think that happens,
you're wrong. Now, there are certain things where clearly they
are forced to raise their prices because again they've had
to spend more money to again get resources and supplies

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to whatever to produce and make whatever it is that
they sell you. But then there's certain things that just yeah,
they just chog it up. I mean again, like do
we think every time that gas goes up or is
more expensive, that there's always a direct reason behind it.
I mean, not to be so cynical, but I mean,
come on, so yeah, I think with things that are
promoted as sales, even though it is technically a sale

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because it's cheaper than what it maybe was before. It's
not hitting the same with people who realize now that
they just got to be mindful of every penny they spend.
Ye And look, I'm one of those people too, trust me.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
It's everywhere.

Speaker 6 (20:51):
Yeah, it takes a lot to get me in for
your sale.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
And you know, if you're offering me a free glazed
donut or a free dozen glazes, that's great. We talked
about that before the donut game. Glade's donuts are great now.
But man, if you're with donuts, if you're gonna go
big or go go big or go home.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah, And that's for me when I don't eat fast
food that often. When I do, I'm not looking to
to even necessarily save money or look at calories like
I look at it as Okay, you'll probably feel so
bad after you eat this because it's gonna make your
body feel bad, So just go all out. That's sometimes
how I think about it. All right, let's get to
traffic and updates. Traffic and weather updates. Also another sports
update coming your way, a big night of high school
football here in the area. I'm excited about that. I'm

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