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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's at five here Kentucky in this morning News News
Radio eight forty whas coffee and company with you. So
a lot of what I've seen yesterday, even this morning
from folks on on social media. Rather it be Twitter, Facebook,
That's really all I consume. I do get on TikTok
(00:21):
every now and then, but not the same type of platform.
And thankfully my algorithm it shows me the things that
I watch for entertainment and nonsense, not things that are
that are necessarily for that. But anyways, we'll get back
to that in a moment, but we do. We do
have a guest joining us now, Brad Gearrett, ABC News
Crime and Terrorism analyst. I guess we'll start with this. Brad.
First of all, thank you for your time. But when
(00:41):
it comes to just the suspects yesterday that were initially
apprehended only to then be later released after questioning, it
now sounds as if they're they're starting they're starting over, right.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Well, it would appear now obviously we don't know what
they're doing behind the scenes, but if you look at
what appears to have had happened, a sniper from a
distance away, maybe two hundred yards plus away, looks like
a pretty precision shot because there was only one shot,
(01:12):
and you know that's you start. If you're investigating this
with you're now already behind. You're behind because it isn't
like a guy who jumps out of the crowd jumps,
you know, breaks himTo a school. You've got a guy
or gal that is prepositioned someplace and you don't know
where it came from. Now, maybe they figured that out,
(01:35):
and maybe they haven't, because plus, the shooter left two things.
If the shooter left anything like shellcases obviously, or anything
else that might link something to a shooter or a student,
a professor, a maintenance person saw someone, you know, where
(01:57):
do you go with that? I mean, if you're able
to pull the shooting off, collapse whatever weapon you might
have into a backpack. I'm just being hypothetical here and
blend in with college students or college professors and just
walk off campus. I mean there's forty six thousand hits
go to that school. So my sense is this is
(02:19):
this was pre planned. This wasn't like, oh, I'm going
to go up on the roof and shoot you know,
Charlie Kirk and then get on social media and talk
about what I've done. This is somebody that went there
just to do what they did and to disappear and leave,
and it looks like, at least up to this point,
they've pulled that off.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
So these big outdoor rallies can obviously post some real
security challenges, and it sounds like folks that were in
attendance have said that the lack of security was noticeable.
No metal detectors, no bag checks. Not sure if that
would have made a difference, but that has been a
talking point right since we've heard from those that were there.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Well, we have, but let's be realistic. I mean, if
you were I mean, Charlie Kirk is not Kirk is
not a protected person. He's not a government official. He's
a private citizen. And so whatever security he has he provided.
Now can you get the local police to help him.
I'm sure, I'm sure the campus police were helping him,
But as far as sniper's on roots, now you've moved
(03:15):
into another arena and they'd have to get the city
or county swat teams or maybe state to help them there.
And if there wasn't a threat of any sort known,
it wouldn't have been realistic. I mean, it just goes
to the challenge of doing outdoor events and protecting people.
I mean, look at President Trump. I mean he had
(03:38):
the best protection and almost got killed by a sniper
who obviously, you know, was I don't think probably as
professional as this guy, to say the least. But be
that what it made and that's where you you know,
that's where you are. And so this may well drive
people do not do outdoor venues for the obvious reason.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
As this happened yesterday. There's also a school shooting that
took place. I mean, just right now, it seems to
be there's a there's a heightened awareness with folks that
just just how how gun violence and just these type
of situations. People are more probably more mindful of it
than maybe they've ever been.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Well, there is no doubt, and they instantaneously know about
it because those of us in the media world, the
media start talking about it, right, So, and that's fine,
but the point being, the word gets out and folks
are aware instantly about a shooting at a school or
in this case, of an assassination of a well known
public public figure. So yeah, I mean, it's all around us.
(04:41):
And this I don't think you could put this shooting
in the category of this is a copycat because that's
what we get school shooters with regularity. This sounds very
intentional to me and maybe directed by somebody to have
it done. But we'll see how that all shorts out.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Brad, thank you for your time, really appreciate it. I
know you're very busy this morning, so we do appreciate
you taking some time to join us. Have a good
day you too.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Take care.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
That's Brad Garrett, ABC News Crime and Terrorism Analyst. Yes,
that is one thing that I think a lot of
people are absolutely aware of, but it does sort of
fade when you're discussing it, is that this is a
private citizen. He was not a I mean, he wasn't
an elected official. He was now clearly his realm is
is of course discussing politics. But I think the expectation
(05:33):
that he would have security that would be I mean, again,
he did have I'm sure he had a lot of
money tied into having good security that can help keep
him safe. And I'm not in any way putting this
putting this on them, meaning they're at fault, but these
I just don't know if there's a scenario where you
can have events like we had yesterday as far as
just the amount of people at these big outdoor events
(05:54):
and feel like one thousand percent that did every that
you know, you're that. I mean, look, the reality is this,
if people just want to go out and commit these
type of acts, most of them will be able to
find a way to probably do it. It's a scary realization,
but I mean, I think that's pretty clear and again scary.
Let's get a quick update of trafficking weather, trying to
get this thing on track again. My clock management today
(06:16):
has not been not been super strong, but I'd say
it's expected given just what today has been a very
busy show, and really just two things that have dominated
the conversation. That is the situation yesterday with the assassination
of Charlie Kirkin and also looking back to nine to eleven,
twenty four years ago. Give it a lock read here our
news radio with forty whas so a real quick segment here.
(06:38):
We've got to get another update of trafficking and weather
coming your way to keep this thing on track. But
I did want to finish where I left off. I
was awaiting the call from Brad and we got it,
but I was saying that when it comes to social media,
I continue to see a consistent message from folks, not everybody,
but again certain certain individuals saying that, well, I'm and
(07:00):
I didn't agree with everything. Charlie Kirk said, I mean,
I can't say I was a fan. I didn't. I
didn't like him, and then the but you know, nobody
should be murdered. And I didn't agree with his politics,
but I didn't want him to die. And I want
you to pause for a second and just take a
moment and think about you feeling the need to make
(07:21):
it clear despite disagreeing with somebody, you want it to
be known you didn't want him dead. Just just take
a minute, say it out loud, realize just that's insane,
that that anybody would would want someone dead because they
disagreed with them, or that anybody would want someone dead
because of really anything. But we are now. To me,
(07:42):
that's one of the many things in the last twenty
four hours that it just reminded me of where things
are because getting out your phone and firing off on
Facebook that you didn't like him, you didn't agree with them,
but you didn't want him to die. Is if anybody
would ever assume that because you disagree with somebody you
hope they're dead is just that's insanity. It's it's insanity.
(08:04):
But again, I guess I can't really say I'm that
surprised considering the climate of things. All Right, Travick a
weather updates coming up here. We've also got a sportsbodate
coming your way, and then coming up at eight thirty five,
we will be joined by Emily Callaway. She is a
state representative. She was in attendance when Charlie Kirk made
an appearance here in Kentucky and Shepherdsville in late June
(08:26):
earlier this summer. So stick with us right here, and
hew's rady to eight forty whas it is our last
segment here with you, and then we're going to hand
it off to Tony Venetti, who's got a big show
set up for these next few hours. Got a couple
maybe three big guests, maybe working on another one.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah. Uh, Mandy Connell and I didn't even because of
the Charlie Kirk thing that thought about the school shooting
in Colorado. We're going to talk to Mandy Connell, which
used to do the nine to noon show here on's
an forty legend. Yeah, she is. She's the best. She's
my favorite all time, including our show, like she's my
favorite nine to noon host, including Tony and but we
also have Craig Greenberg because he went through this. Yes,
(09:04):
and I know he had a quote, but we're going
to dive in a little bit deeper of because that
has to hit his family harder than anyone else.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Whenever he's, you know, speaking on behalf of leading the
city as the mayor, it can easily be something that
you don't really think about because you're thinking about whatever
he has to say about his role as the leader.
But he experienced this in a way and of course
very fortunate to survive. But I don't think people forget
that that happened. But it is easy to lose sight
of that specific situation where somebody showed up at his
(09:31):
campaign office and wanted to kill him so he wouldn't
become the mayor.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I mean, that's that's inis in Louisville, Kentucky, right, a
small a mid size town in the Midwest.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
And the national coverage of that was certainly there. But
as someone who was still more so on the sports side,
I mean that was big time national news right like
that was.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Oh yeah, sure, there's no doubt.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
With the climate of things at that time, with the
presidential election coming up a couple of years after that.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Uh, but it and we talked in the break the
difference between and we'll talk about it in the next hour.
But the difference is that there's video. Ye if you
if you read Charlie Kirk was shot and killed on
this campus, there's a different reaction from them watching him
actually get assassinated. It changes the narrative, not the narrative,
(10:21):
It changes your emotional setup completely.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
It's the human component, the human element that clearly just
you process things. It's not about opinion, it's not about politics.
It's about being a human to where you once you have.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
A visual video changes everything.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Well, process something you knew happened differently after you actually
see it take place.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, we brought up the you know how many NFL
players have been accused of domestic violence, but why did
ray Rice be become the face of that because there
was video, yep, And.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Because that was public it instantly changed.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
You see it and that is that video Because my
son said, I'm sending it to you and I want
you react while I'm live on the phone with you,
and I was like, okay, So I watched it and
then I texted my wife she's in Vegas, and said,
do not watch the Charlie Kirk video.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
That speaks to your your closeness with your son. To
be honest with you, I think that's I mean, again,
it's a terrible thing that took place. But you know,
he first thought was to call you, and and I
wasn't looking for it. I have, of course seen it,
but and it's you know, it's one of the worst
things you'll ever see.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, Charlie Kirk spoke to his generation more than anybody
that I can remember ever.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
He engaged in very effective forms of civil persuasion, and
so many people who I don't think were necessarily looking
to attach themselves or really just get caught up in it.
But he, again, he spoke to them better than anybody
probably ever knew possible. So, you know, just just just
a crazy day, we want to make it.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I'm glad you were in the chair this morning.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Me too. It was it was it was something I
was gonna say, it was fun. I mean, I didn't
know being able to discuss it. But obviously some real
series WHS. My friend mem it'll be a memorable moment
for me. Absolutely, thanks guys, we'll we're getting out of
your way. Tony ven Eddie coming up right here on
news Radio eight forty whis
It's at five here Kentucky in this morning News News
Radio eight forty whas coffee and company with you. So
a lot of what I've seen yesterday, even this morning
from folks on on social media. Rather it be Twitter, Facebook,
That's really all I consume. I do get on TikTok
(00:21):
every now and then, but not the same type of platform.
And thankfully my algorithm it shows me the things that
I watch for entertainment and nonsense, not things that are
that are necessarily for that. But anyways, we'll get back
to that in a moment, but we do. We do
have a guest joining us now, Brad Gearrett, ABC News
Crime and Terrorism analyst. I guess we'll start with this. Brad.
First of all, thank you for your time. But when
(00:41):
it comes to just the suspects yesterday that were initially
apprehended only to then be later released after questioning, it
now sounds as if they're they're starting they're starting over, right.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Well, it would appear now obviously we don't know what
they're doing behind the scenes, but if you look at
what appears to have had happened, a sniper from a
distance away, maybe two hundred yards plus away, looks like
a pretty precision shot because there was only one shot,
(01:12):
and you know that's you start. If you're investigating this
with you're now already behind. You're behind because it isn't
like a guy who jumps out of the crowd jumps,
you know, breaks himTo a school. You've got a guy
or gal that is prepositioned someplace and you don't know
where it came from. Now, maybe they figured that out,
(01:35):
and maybe they haven't, because plus, the shooter left two things.
If the shooter left anything like shellcases obviously, or anything
else that might link something to a shooter or a student,
a professor, a maintenance person saw someone, you know, where
(01:57):
do you go with that? I mean, if you're able
to pull the shooting off, collapse whatever weapon you might
have into a backpack. I'm just being hypothetical here and
blend in with college students or college professors and just
walk off campus. I mean there's forty six thousand hits
go to that school. So my sense is this is
(02:19):
this was pre planned. This wasn't like, oh, I'm going
to go up on the roof and shoot you know,
Charlie Kirk and then get on social media and talk
about what I've done. This is somebody that went there
just to do what they did and to disappear and leave,
and it looks like, at least up to this point,
they've pulled that off.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
So these big outdoor rallies can obviously post some real
security challenges, and it sounds like folks that were in
attendance have said that the lack of security was noticeable.
No metal detectors, no bag checks. Not sure if that
would have made a difference, but that has been a
talking point right since we've heard from those that were there.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Well, we have, but let's be realistic. I mean, if
you were I mean, Charlie Kirk is not Kirk is
not a protected person. He's not a government official. He's
a private citizen. And so whatever security he has he provided.
Now can you get the local police to help him.
I'm sure, I'm sure the campus police were helping him,
But as far as sniper's on roots, now you've moved
(03:15):
into another arena and they'd have to get the city
or county swat teams or maybe state to help them there.
And if there wasn't a threat of any sort known,
it wouldn't have been realistic. I mean, it just goes
to the challenge of doing outdoor events and protecting people.
I mean, look at President Trump. I mean he had
(03:38):
the best protection and almost got killed by a sniper
who obviously, you know, was I don't think probably as
professional as this guy, to say the least. But be
that what it made and that's where you you know,
that's where you are. And so this may well drive
people do not do outdoor venues for the obvious reason.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
As this happened yesterday. There's also a school shooting that
took place. I mean, just right now, it seems to
be there's a there's a heightened awareness with folks that
just just how how gun violence and just these type
of situations. People are more probably more mindful of it
than maybe they've ever been.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Well, there is no doubt, and they instantaneously know about
it because those of us in the media world, the
media start talking about it, right, So, and that's fine,
but the point being, the word gets out and folks
are aware instantly about a shooting at a school or
in this case, of an assassination of a well known
public public figure. So yeah, I mean, it's all around us.
(04:41):
And this I don't think you could put this shooting
in the category of this is a copycat because that's
what we get school shooters with regularity. This sounds very
intentional to me and maybe directed by somebody to have
it done. But we'll see how that all shorts out.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Brad, thank you for your time, really appreciate it. I
know you're very busy this morning, so we do appreciate
you taking some time to join us. Have a good
day you too.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Take care.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
That's Brad Garrett, ABC News Crime and Terrorism Analyst. Yes,
that is one thing that I think a lot of
people are absolutely aware of, but it does sort of
fade when you're discussing it, is that this is a
private citizen. He was not a I mean, he wasn't
an elected official. He was now clearly his realm is
is of course discussing politics. But I think the expectation
(05:33):
that he would have security that would be I mean, again,
he did have I'm sure he had a lot of
money tied into having good security that can help keep
him safe. And I'm not in any way putting this
putting this on them, meaning they're at fault, but these
I just don't know if there's a scenario where you
can have events like we had yesterday as far as
just the amount of people at these big outdoor events
(05:54):
and feel like one thousand percent that did every that
you know, you're that. I mean, look, the reality is this,
if people just want to go out and commit these
type of acts, most of them will be able to
find a way to probably do it. It's a scary realization,
but I mean, I think that's pretty clear and again scary.
Let's get a quick update of trafficking weather, trying to
get this thing on track again. My clock management today
(06:16):
has not been not been super strong, but I'd say
it's expected given just what today has been a very
busy show, and really just two things that have dominated
the conversation. That is the situation yesterday with the assassination
of Charlie Kirkin and also looking back to nine to eleven,
twenty four years ago. Give it a lock read here our
news radio with forty whas so a real quick segment here.
(06:38):
We've got to get another update of trafficking and weather
coming your way to keep this thing on track. But
I did want to finish where I left off. I
was awaiting the call from Brad and we got it,
but I was saying that when it comes to social media,
I continue to see a consistent message from folks, not everybody,
but again certain certain individuals saying that, well, I'm and
(07:00):
I didn't agree with everything. Charlie Kirk said, I mean,
I can't say I was a fan. I didn't. I
didn't like him, and then the but you know, nobody
should be murdered. And I didn't agree with his politics,
but I didn't want him to die. And I want
you to pause for a second and just take a
moment and think about you feeling the need to make
(07:21):
it clear despite disagreeing with somebody, you want it to
be known you didn't want him dead. Just just take
a minute, say it out loud, realize just that's insane,
that that anybody would would want someone dead because they
disagreed with them, or that anybody would want someone dead
because of really anything. But we are now. To me,
(07:42):
that's one of the many things in the last twenty
four hours that it just reminded me of where things
are because getting out your phone and firing off on
Facebook that you didn't like him, you didn't agree with them,
but you didn't want him to die. Is if anybody
would ever assume that because you disagree with somebody you
hope they're dead is just that's insanity. It's it's insanity.
(08:04):
But again, I guess I can't really say I'm that
surprised considering the climate of things. All Right, Travick a
weather updates coming up here. We've also got a sportsbodate
coming your way, and then coming up at eight thirty five,
we will be joined by Emily Callaway. She is a
state representative. She was in attendance when Charlie Kirk made
an appearance here in Kentucky and Shepherdsville in late June
(08:26):
earlier this summer. So stick with us right here, and
hew's rady to eight forty whas it is our last
segment here with you, and then we're going to hand
it off to Tony Venetti, who's got a big show
set up for these next few hours. Got a couple
maybe three big guests, maybe working on another one.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah. Uh, Mandy Connell and I didn't even because of
the Charlie Kirk thing that thought about the school shooting
in Colorado. We're going to talk to Mandy Connell, which
used to do the nine to noon show here on's
an forty legend. Yeah, she is. She's the best. She's
my favorite all time, including our show, like she's my
favorite nine to noon host, including Tony and but we
also have Craig Greenberg because he went through this. Yes,
(09:04):
and I know he had a quote, but we're going
to dive in a little bit deeper of because that
has to hit his family harder than anyone else.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Whenever he's, you know, speaking on behalf of leading the
city as the mayor, it can easily be something that
you don't really think about because you're thinking about whatever
he has to say about his role as the leader.
But he experienced this in a way and of course
very fortunate to survive. But I don't think people forget
that that happened. But it is easy to lose sight
of that specific situation where somebody showed up at his
(09:31):
campaign office and wanted to kill him so he wouldn't
become the mayor.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I mean, that's that's inis in Louisville, Kentucky, right, a
small a mid size town in the Midwest.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
And the national coverage of that was certainly there. But
as someone who was still more so on the sports side,
I mean that was big time national news right like
that was.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Oh yeah, sure, there's no doubt.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
With the climate of things at that time, with the
presidential election coming up a couple of years after that.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Uh, but it and we talked in the break the
difference between and we'll talk about it in the next hour.
But the difference is that there's video. Ye if you
if you read Charlie Kirk was shot and killed on
this campus, there's a different reaction from them watching him
actually get assassinated. It changes the narrative, not the narrative,
(10:21):
It changes your emotional setup completely.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
It's the human component, the human element that clearly just
you process things. It's not about opinion, it's not about politics.
It's about being a human to where you once you have.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
A visual video changes everything.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Well, process something you knew happened differently after you actually
see it take place.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, we brought up the you know how many NFL
players have been accused of domestic violence, but why did
ray Rice be become the face of that because there
was video, yep, And.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Because that was public it instantly changed.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
You see it and that is that video Because my
son said, I'm sending it to you and I want
you react while I'm live on the phone with you,
and I was like, okay, So I watched it and
then I texted my wife she's in Vegas, and said,
do not watch the Charlie Kirk video.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
That speaks to your your closeness with your son. To
be honest with you, I think that's I mean, again,
it's a terrible thing that took place. But you know,
he first thought was to call you, and and I
wasn't looking for it. I have, of course seen it,
but and it's you know, it's one of the worst
things you'll ever see.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, Charlie Kirk spoke to his generation more than anybody
that I can remember ever.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
He engaged in very effective forms of civil persuasion, and
so many people who I don't think were necessarily looking
to attach themselves or really just get caught up in it.
But he, again, he spoke to them better than anybody
probably ever knew possible. So, you know, just just just
a crazy day, we want to make it.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I'm glad you were in the chair this morning.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Me too. It was it was it was something I
was gonna say, it was fun. I mean, I didn't
know being able to discuss it. But obviously some real
series WHS. My friend mem it'll be a memorable moment
for me. Absolutely, thanks guys, we'll we're getting out of
your way. Tony ven Eddie coming up right here on
news Radio eight forty whis
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