9.5: Sour Milk - Hour 3

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is seven oh five here on a Friday morning.
Appreciate you hanging out with us. It is Kentucky and
this morning news Coffee and company with you here on
news RADIOA forty whas it's Friday at seven o'clock, which
means we've got L and PD spokesman Dwight Mitchell with
us here in the studio.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Good morning, sir, How are we doing?

Speaker 3 (00:15):
I'm doing very well. And it's interesting that you would
have Stevie wonder and superstition. And I don't have too
many superstitions. I don't even know if I have any
that I'm aware of. But one superstition is I'm seeming
to be coming in here every Friday early. Yes, I
must love you.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
I know I was going to say, hey, look you
can come and hang out four hours.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
That's a long commitment.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
I'm sure you got better things to do with your time,
but your presence is always appreciated. But yes, we've been
hanging out and chatting for quite some time and I
appreciate your time. Happy to have you here as always.
It's good to be And how about how about the company?
Man John Alden, the producer, bringing us into some Stevie
wonder he doesn't get much better than.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
That man he keeps doing that.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
It's all right, I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
So yesterday a pretty scary situation where two young children
had snuck off, essentially, and they were located by a
good citizen who just realized, hey, something seems off here.
They notified law enforcement L and PD of course utilized
their resources their reach to let the community know, hey,
there's two children that we found and they were quickly reunited.

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And that's best case scenario when a situation like this happens,
but no charges being filed for whoever it was that
was watching the young kids. Going back to our conversation
last week, when it comes to to DUI, this is
one of those things where it's really just the officer's
discretion to kind of see, okay, is this just a
mistake and they're clearly going to learn because of just
the fear that happened, or you know, maybe is this

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truly somebody that's not being a good parent, And clearly
this was just an accident.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
It appears that that is the way that it was. Nick,
and I think too a human element comes into those
of us who are our parents, have been parents, and
things like that. You know, even you think you're watching
your kids, sometimes you're not because of the free moral agents,
especially when they get a little age on them. You know,

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you teach them certain things and you hope that they
are heard by them. I'm never been one of those
parents to say my kids would never do this. I
would always say I hope my kid wouldn't do it
because I know they know better.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
That was gonna say, here's what you here's what you know.
You can't confirm is that you know that you taught
them to know better, but what they do that's from them.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
No, I was definitely want to say that my kid
wouldn't do it, because you just never know. Sure to
get back to your question about the officer discretion, Yes,
I think the all the factors that you just mentioned
go into what happens in the end, and you know
you've talked about it. I've talked about it that sometimes
just in a wink, I'm blinking and I you start

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panicking when you don't see them. You were sharing the
story with me when you were young, yep, and you
were in the airport and you were starstruck by someone
that you saw. It's new and you stop talking with
your parents and all of a sudden, hey I can't
find my mom and things like that. But we had
a good citizen in this case. Yes, that did what
they were supposed to do it and I don't want to
do this.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, that's thank you for doing it.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
And not only that, that's I mean, I hate to
think that others may not have done it, but doing that,
we'll never know because everything worked out great, But who
knows if nobody noticed them and took action like this
good citizen did, right, Yeah, that's that's that's what should happen.
And it's just it's it's a good example. And I'm
sure there's other examples, but we probably don't and then

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maybe it's it's my fault. Maybe we don't prop those
things up enough and talk about them. But that's a
good that's a good example of just somebody being a
good citizen in the community, being good to the community.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
And that's what we always hoping, that's what we always
tap because it may have saved a life. Sure, that's
what we're talking about, not so much that when it's
a homicide or something like that. You know, when we
use that term, it takes a whole village. It does,
and it does in all categories. You know. Of course,
I'm quite a bit older than you, and back in
the day, Miss I want sold down the street was

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watching you just as much as your parents were, and
they would tell on you, oh yeah quickly if something
would And I didn't appreciate it then, but I do
now because they kept me.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
We need that whole lot.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Of things happening. They could have gone the other way
because I was good and crazy back then, you know,
just you know, exploring one and a kid. Yeah, sure,
and you don't know. But I'm glad that we have
a happy ending to this. It's not something we want
to see and it's not that we wouldn't take proper
charges that were necessary, but the officers in this case

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did not feel that was the case and reunited with
their parents what they need to be I.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Tell you what.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
This is also a good example of just the optics
of the situation. It's alarming, and a lot of parents,
I understand, think, oh my goodness, those poor kids, how
could this happen? Who's responsible? I think that's just the
human human element kicking in. But also I think if you,
as a parent, really just take a moment to think
about it, you'd realize that you could see a scenario
how something like this could happen and just be certainly

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just an innocent thing that was not malicious by any means.
It's just, you know, the kids were young enough to
really just not be you know, to get.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Away, and it can happen. I know I had.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
I had the situation as a kid that I'll always
forget because I did.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I got, I got, I didn't get lost.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
We call it the story where Nick got lost at
the airport, so my family talks about it. But I just,
for a brief moment, was starstruck by seeing somebody that
i'd recognized, an NBA player at an airport, probably the
first thing to be a player ever saw. So I
just stopped in my tracks and probably just looked wide eyed.
And my mother and my sister kept walking, and all
of a sudden, I looked up and I saw a
bunch of people. I didn't see them, so I grabbed

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a stranger and just said, hey, I can't find my mom.
And he was a good citizen. I remember him saying,
it's okay, buddy, we'll get this figured out. And he
looked around and before he could he could find somebody
to help. My mom comes running realizing that we have
been separated. So it's probably a forty five second at
maximum situation, but it felt, i'm sure for her and
even me at the time, like a lot longer than that.

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And then situation I shared earlier with my daughter. We
were gett I was getting out to pump gas and
she got out of the vehicle and she had she
was just behind the vehicle at at the exact time
where I'm looking and I don't see her, and I'm
thinking she's still in the back seat, and my heart
drop for probably a millisecond, sure, And it's because it's
just I think those are that's just the human the
human element kicking in for people when their parents and

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you know, you mentioned something a moment ago that stood
out because kids obviously, you know, you think you're watching
your kids, but they know how well you're watching. They
know what they might be able to get away with.
I know this and that with my son now right,
he's getting to that age.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Well you know, I'll end it with this, only by
the grace of God go why because you know, situations
would go around really really quick and only by the
grace that it didn't. And that's what we have in
this situation. Now I'm blossom ling yesterday, good stuff, and
that's the way we like it to end.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
So what I've enjoyed during our weekly conversations is is
getting a gain, you know, kind of humanizing what law
enforcement does folks at LMPD. And somebody asked me to
ask you this question, and I am putting you on
the spot here, but what is something about let's just
say a patrolman, what is something about their job that

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is a huge challenge, a real part of the gig,
part of what you do that the common citizen would
never think about.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
I think just the mere situations that they're put in
and regardless of what you may think about them or
the situation, you have to humanize yourself to the point
where you have to just do what's right in spite
of the fact what they may have done or not,
especially when it comes to criminals or someone who's broken

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the law, and you really especially when it comes to kids.
I think most officers when they're dealing with child abuse
and things of that, it takes special special mindset to
deal with that, and especially some of the tragedy that
we've seen. Well, people who can't defend themself, not only kids,
I can't imagine. But you still have to have an

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element of humility when when you're dealing with that, even
though that they've done something very heineous, they still have rights.
That's still human beings. And I think that's the delicate
balance of that we have to deal with because you
can sit at home and say, oh, man, family, been me,
i'd have done this and done that. Well, we can't
do this and do that, and if we do, you're
talking about us on the news. If we do that.

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So I think those are the times when you have
to deal with the least of these and treat them
like humans.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
So we're all humans, meaning we all have emotions, and
a lot of times what you do in law enforcement
can can provide emotionally charged moments because of just the
nature of what you're doing. What type of I mean,
is it just the type of person that people are.
Obviously it's part of the training. But to be able,
I think to be able to you have to remove

(08:55):
emotion from many situations, and I think that's really hard
to do, but clearly that's part of that's that's the expectation,
that's the job. Is it just something people are bored with?
Did they develop it? I mean, I'm sure everybody's different,
but I just that's one of those things for me
that I'm an emotional human like anybody else, but in
that position you simply can't be.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
At times, I think it's d all the above. I
think it's all of those elements because here's the fact.
I think what people don't realize. We have a few
seconds to make a great decision. I'll end it with that,
and whatever that decision is has to be right. And
I think that's what people don't understand is when we're

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called into a situation, it's generally bad.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Of course, that's why you were called in.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
And it's usually in In many cases it could be
difference between life and death. But you only got a
few seconds to make a great decision. And most of
the time that happens. And I think that's what gets
lost in the thing. It's only when it doesn't go
the way we hoped it would go that gets the
coverage because the rest of it is said, that's the job.

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But it's the job that a lot of people can't
and will not do. That's how come we're three hundred
and something officers.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
And that's another element to the emotional aspect because to me,
if if if I just had to accept that, what's
going to really be primarily discussed about what we do
is when things maybe aren't aren't good. I guess eventually
you just accept it. But that would you know, it'd
be a hard thing for people to do. It would
be it would weigh on you, and you got to
just be able to deal with that. Is it safe

(10:35):
to say that it could be a really big asset
to you in law enforcement really at every level. If
you're a really good communicator.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
That's essentially it, because really we call it verbal verbal judo. Yeah,
and you have to be able to reach people where
they are because I know when I'm talking to certain people,
I might have to use the King's English for them
to understand. Then some people you just got to get
right down to it. And some people don't understand and say, ooh,

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you didn't have to talk to them like that. Sometimes
you do because that's what they understand. And that's knowing
your community, knowing who you're dealing with. It's just like
my kids, I have to talk to them in a
certain way for them to get the message, because the
art of communication is meeting people where they are. Some
people auditory, some people are attacked her where they got
to see it, feel to touch it. And some people

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you just have to only say a word to me.
When my mother was disciplining me, all she had to
do was look at me, and that was enough.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
Right.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
There had to be no bilding, had nothing, just the
mere disappointment that I saw. And guess what, she'll be
eighty nine in a month or two.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
That's all still that way for I guarantee it.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
If you saw, if you saw the look today, I
guarantee it, it would you know. Okay, what's going on? I
better straighten up? Oh yeah, But I tell you what.
The being able to communicate in a variety of ways
because of the variety of different situations that you that
you encounter.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
I mean, it's one of those things.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Again, I don't think a lot about it, but it
could go a long way to where you're still doing
your job, You're still letting people accountable. But if you
can find a level of communication with victims or perpetrators,
whatever it may be, it's it's I mean again, And
I think that's something people are clearly, you know, they
can get better at it. But I think some people
it's just a gift that they have.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Right, and not think that's in any any profession.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Sure, communication is key, Oh it is.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
It's it's everything.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yep, no doubt about it. You got me going back
in time. My mom.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
I knew that if she started talking to me and
she and she kept her teeth closed Nicholas coffee, that's
that's that's what she when she gave me that, That's
when I knew, Oh I'm in trouble.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
I better straighten up. But comfortable fear.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
I'm so glad I had a comfortable fear of my
parents because you know, I didn't want to disappoint them.
I didn't want to let them down. I didn't want
to get in trouble. I wasn't fearful as if I
thought I was in danger. But I think comfortable fear
in every aspect of life. Comfortable fear of of of
of you know, it can keep you from from and
I'm getting a little deep here, but a comfortable fear

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of failing, comfortable fear of maybe losing your gig, can
make you live in the moment and appreciate a lot
of things, but also a comfortable fear of of of
law enforcement. Can you know, can make it work. You
don't need to be scared of them, but obviously know that, Hey,
you know you got to let's make sure if you
see a patrolman out there, you're not going twenty miles.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Over speed of it. Like that's just it's healthy for society.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
And I think you hit on something here when you
said comfortable fear ultimately turns into respect, of course, and
that's what really the whole thing isn't I.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Think that makes wor'll go around.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
I think it's what everybody wants, is respect just a
little bit, as frank.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
And you don't even know it, but if you get it,
you feel it. It's again, it's part of the part
of the human human element, right, good stuff. I enjoy
these conversations, man, And if you would have come in
at five am, I'll let you in if you.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Well, ifs in the Lord, don't call me home.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
That's super early. But again, we appreciate you coming in
and enjoy your weekend.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
All right.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
In a cheap humph you I believe it's gonna be Yeah,
that's right, check Humphrey. Thank you for helping arrange that.
Looking forward to having Chief Humphrey in next week.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
It's stuff. Thanks. Why let's get a check of traffic
and weather.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
We've got a sports update and a news update coming
you way before too long, right here on news.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Radio eight forty whas. Happy Friday.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
We made it and it seemed like the week when
about really really quick. And it's because it was a
four day work week because of the holiday. And I'll
take that. I'll take a three day weekend and a
four day work week as the new norm. But I'm
sure that'll probably never happen, but hey, we'll take them
when we can get it again. It's KNSEUCKUYI this morning
news coffee and company with you here on news radio
eight forty whas. And if you are somebody out there

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that is really considering leaving your job, because I guess
it could be a lot of different reasons that could
get you to that point. You feel underpaid, you feel
like you're you're not appreciated, and you really want to
stand up for yourself. Even I would hesitate to make
them move because I don't think now is the time

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I've mentioned this a few weeks ago. There are some
people I know that have that have decided to walk
away from their job just because they feel as if
they've maxed out and they've maybe been told, hey, we
we understand your request, but we're not going to pay
you more or give you more incentives. This is just
the way it is. You're going to have to deal
with it. And they're putting employees. Some of these employers

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in the position to where they've just got to decide
are you gonna are you going to just accept that
or are you going to let them know, Hey, I'm
out of here. You you don't deserve me, and I'm
going to go elsewhere. Well, that that last part there
elsewhere is I mean, I know three people I know
that I would consider friends that have that have found
themselves realizing that it is very hard to find a

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gig right now that I guess is even close to
what they had before. You know, I think this is
just a shift that I'm seeing as far as employers
really not I guess, I don't say not valuing their employees,
but there they'll they'll they'll say they'll call your bluff essentially,
And sometimes people look everybody's replaceable.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
We all know that.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
But these numbers again kind of confirmed my fear of
that the job market right now is just not it's
not super great. So we now have reports that the
US job market has lost some momentum because both job
openings and job cuts are happening right now in a
big way. Now, some of these cuts are government jobs
that really don't have a whole lot to do with

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the economy impacting them or any specific employer. It's just
what President Trump's decided to do as far as just resources.
But in July, job openings fell to seven point eighteen million,
the lowest level in nearly three years, matching pandemic era lows,
and the demand for workers is also down, especially in
areas like healthcare, retail, social services. In August, this is

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job cuts. In August, US companies announced nearly eighty six
thousand job cuts, which is up thirty nine percent from
July and the highest for in August since the year
twenty twenty. So the pharmaceutical and the finance industries have
led the way in layoffs. Hiring has slowed. You've got
an average of just thirty five thousand jobs per month

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this summer compared to one hundred and ninety six thousand
earlier this year, so the economic growth is weakening. And
again I think maybe some of this is just riding
out some changes made at the highest level, meaning getting
rid of some government jobs and whatnot. But I don't
think now's the time to make that move, unless, of course,

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if you're financially in a position then you can do it.
Then you know, I'm sure you'll do it and not
think twice about it. But a lot of people aren't.
And I've always believed just because this is I've never
been in a situation where I could ever, Yeah, I'm
gonna not work for a few months and see how
that goes.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Well, I know how that would go out into homeless.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
I mean luckily I have you know, my wife and
we have two incomes, and I don't I mean that
was an exaggeration, but the yeah, I'll leave this job
and I'll worry about getting back to work, you know,
whenever I feel like it. Like most people cannot do that,
and you know it's understandable. So you know, I think
leaving a gig when you already have another one lined

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up is how most people would handle certain situations. But
maybe you're in a situation to where maybe you're you know,
you've had you just you've had enough. In the back
of your mind, you know your value, so you're thinking
to yourself, oh, it'll work itself out, because look, I'm
and I'm not saying you're not valuable, but I think
you're seeing some examples of employers. I guess in certain industries.

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Maybe it's all industries that are just calling your bluff
and saying, okay, well all right, see you later, and
they're now willing to say, okay, well.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
We'll get by without you. Look, you can get bout.
Everybody's replaceable.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
We know that, and I think living with that in
your mind maybe won't make you feel like you're you're
valuable and whatnot. But yeah, I just if you're somebody
on the fence about your current employer situation, I would
I would look at these numbers and realize that And
I guess it all depends on what you do right
as far as being able to find a gig. But
it just the thought of not having work would be

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scary as can be. And I'm sure a lot of
people you know have that fear. So anyways, let's get
to a quick update of traffic and weather, and then
we'll be joined by the voice of the Kentucky Wildcats,
Tom Leach, who's set to join us as Kentucky set
to take on Old Miss on Saturday. Big game for Kentucky,
no doubt. All right, don't go anywhere, keep it locked

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right here on nice Radio eight forty whas it is
seven forty six here on a Friday morning, Kentucky and
his morning news, coffee and company with you here on
news Radio eight forty whas And joining us now is
the voice of the Kentucky Wildcats, mister Tom Leech.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Tom.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
The Wildcats are set to take on Old Miss tomorrow,
and I guess before we talk about that matchup specifically
in the first game, a game that clearly was a
game that Kentucky knew that they were going to be
challenged with a good Toledo team expected to be one
of the better teams in the MAC, let's start with
I guess the biggest positive from that performance Obviously probably
a little closer at the end than most fans would
have wanted to see, but still a win. What would

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you say would be the biggest positive takeaway from the
first game? Of Mark Stood's team this year.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Mainly, I think it probably the way they looked in
the offensive and defensive lines, because that was so much
of a discussion point coming into the season, particularly on
the offensive side. And so they ran for over two
hundred yards and they've to transfer running backs, looked as
good as advertised, three new offensive linemen and that unit

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looked much improved. Defensive line got a lot of pressure
on the quarterback. So those were two boxes they had
to check to have a chance to be better this season,
and so Game one they did. So Now the challenge
gets stiffer against an SEC opponent tomorrow in Ole, Miss
which put up a bunch of points against Georgia State.

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But it was a similar storyline last year. They had
not really played anybody and had some of their issues
exposed when they played an SEC opponent. So that'll happen
to both of them well probably.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Is it safe to say that when it comes to
Lane Kiffin. Of course, a guy who's known for just
being a phenomenal mind when it comes to offense. I
mean last year was the best example, but I feel
like it wasn't just last year that Brad White and
Mark Stoops I'm sure collectively they seem to be pretty
good at countering what Lange Kiffen wants to do offensively.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Yeah, they've had a good success really in the three
meetings they've had. Ole Miss scored thirty five in regulation
the first time and it went to overtime and the
Rebels one by one, and then in twenty two down
in Oxford it was I think twenty two seventeen ole
Miss and then last year's twenty seventeen Kentucky. So they

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have had a good plan and certainly two of those
three meetings for slowing down that offense. They want to
play fast. The Rebels new and try to hit you
a lot of big plays, and Kentucky's just the opposite
in terms of the temple which they want to play,
and they're trying to limit big plays and did a

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pretty good job of that in this matchup last year.
They've got to find a way to make some themselves, though.
I think in this game. They had two plays for
twenty or more yards last week, and they didn't really
get much done in the passing game. So that's you
would think, you know, against an SEC opponent, if you
can't throw the ball, it's going to be a lot
harder to run it. So they definitely need to improve

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in the passing game to have a shot at the
upset tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Zach kelzat of the transfer quarterback. Your impression of him
in his debut.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
He certainly was not impressive that it's probably an understatement
in game one. Now, it was the first time playing
against you know, the FBS level of competition in four
years for him, last two years he'd been at Incarnate
word before that, he was injured when he was down
at Auburn, So he had to go back to twenty
one when he was at Texas A and M to

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find the last time and he played at this level
and maybe he was pressing. There was so throws that
looked really good, some that looked really bad, and so
they've got to find a consistency, find the plays that
they can execute in the passing game and you get
the ball. I would think maybe they, you know, give

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him some an opportunity to have some completions early, gain
a little confidence. I would think, you know, he no
matter what any any athlete says, after you come off
a subpar performance, it doesn't hurt to, you know, have
a little confidence you know, when you have a bad
day golf course, if you can knock the first one
down the middle of the fairway, the next day, you

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just feel good about starting a round. So hopefully they
can get him a little confidence early in this game.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, it's like seeing some free throws go in as
a basketball player before you before you get going. It
can certainly help. Now, Tom, you've done this a long time.
Not to not to aid you, but college sports was
the same for a long long time and now it's
way different. And one of those factors is the transfer portal.
One of the things that stood out to me during
the offseason for Kentucky is bringing in quarterback Zach Calzada.

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Not that it was a surprise they brought him in.
I think most coaches are going to look at the
portal and they're probably going to look at the quarterback
position regardless of how they feel about theirs to a
certain extent, but getting Cutter Bowley to still stay knowing
he could have easily hit the portal like a lot
of quarterbacks would in that situation, certainly would have had
interest and who knows, maybe he'd be starting elsewhere.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
I think that's a sign that.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
They were able to tell both these guys, hey, you're
you're going to have a chance to compete. And I
say that to say that it does sound as if
the quarterback battle, Calzada had the lead and has been
has been the guy. Maybe he will be throughout, But
it does seem as if that staff does have some
legitimate confidence in Cutter Bowley, if that's something they have to.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
Do, so sat of that way in the lead up
to the start of the season. He looked really good
in the when he played that second half down in
Texas in the penultimate game of last season, but then
did not look very good against U of L in
the in the finale when he got his chance to start.
Had he gone out and looked really good, maybe they
would have gone to the portal looking for h you know,

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a backup. But since that didn't happen and Cutter, you know,
a bank the plan for both For that he understood,
and that the Kentucky plan was, you know, they had
Brock Vandergriff figure he's going to be there for two
years and then Cutter is ready to take over. Didn't
work well for Brocky elected to move on from from
the sport of football. And so I think it was

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natural to go out and find somebody with the experience
that could be your starter and hopefully, hopefully it works
out in a in a good way for both of
them long term. And and Cutter, can you know, best
case here for Kentucky is that Calzata gets it right
and uh, he's got a capable backup and then he's

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ready to take over next season. But sounded like from
what everything coach Stoops and coach Hamden said that they'd
be confident of him if they have to turn to
him for whatever reason.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
The voice of the Kentucky Wildcats, Tom Leach, is our
guest joining us here on news radio eight forty w
h AS. So it'd be fair to say the formula
for Mark Stoops, the formula that has seemed to be
the most successful is whenever Kentucky is competitive, sometimes very
strong upfront on both sides, and they can run the ball.
I feel like if you are looking at their first game,

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you feel pretty good. Again, it's a MAC level opponent
and that's no slight at Toledo. But let's be real,
Kentucky schedule is one of the toughest in the country
this year, so it's really going to be tough in
most of these games this year. But is it safe
to say that as far as just the formula that
has worked for Kentucky before, in one game, and it's
just one example, it looks as if they're more so
back to having an identity that is similar to previous

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teams that have been successful.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
Yeah, I think you're exactly right about all of that.
And if I think you have to have something that
you trust and believe in and or approach and it's
you know, it's not as flashy as some fans would like,
but nothing beats winning. And so they did a lot
of winning between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty one when

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they had the two to ten win seasons in there,
and that's what they want to get back to. And
a big part of that was the big blue wall,
that offensive line up front. So the reviews on that group,
as I said earlier, were encouraging. In Week one, if
they can look good against a very good Old Miss
defensive line, then I think as a coaching staff, you'll

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feel like you've got this on the right track. I
think for Kentucky, what you hope is that you can
use your your running game, keep the chains moving, be
solid on defense, and stay in games into the fourth quarter,
and then try to find a way to win close games.
Good kicking game looked good last week, so penalties were low.

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All of those things are the part of the formula
that Kentucky needs to hit to win because they're not
going to, you know, be a team that is like
looking like Old Miss, that is going to try to
put up sixty on you every time. He's got to,
you know, win with a thinner margin. And that's the
challenge is they go into sec play. Now.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
I may be asking you a question here that the
answer is already pretty obvious. But when it comes to
ole Miss Lane Kiffin, you think offense, Let's just say
tomorrow ends up being a it's going to be a
challenge regardless. But let's say you get to the late
third quarter, it looks as if ole Miss has created
some separation to feel pretty comfortable. Is it because they've
just got some offensive firepower? That's that's too tough to count.

(28:28):
I'm asking you to predict the future here, but I
think when ole Miss is successful, I think a lot
of points.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
Well, yeah, you're right, and I think last year I
went back and looked at the box score from the
game Kentucky won. They held the ball for almost forty minutes.
Now that's you know, against the team like Ole Miss.
If you give up big plays, time of possession doesn't
help you as much. But they did a good job
of limiting big plays. Ole Miss was one for ten
on third downs, so they couldn't sustain drives and so

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that's why time of possession mattered more in that game.
So that box score needs to look the same for Kentucky.
They didn't have any turnovers in that game and they
had one takeaway. All of those are things that you know,
need to look at a similar fashion from the numbers
in the box score if Kentucky is going to have
a chance to win in this game, because you know

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Old Miss is a team that you know they want
to play fast. That's kind of like you used to
analogy of free throw shooting earlier. You know, if you're
making free throws, you can't wait for them to hand
you the ball again, that's right, And if you're missing them,
everything's in your head. And they got maybe an Old
Miss has had a little bit last season. If the
Rebels get in rhythm then they can't wait to get
the ball again.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
I tell you what, That's what stood out to me
when you mentioned last year's game, is I just remember
that old Miss team started to press a little bit
because they realized, we've had some missed opportunities and we
won't get the ball back for quite a while. The
next time we get it back, we better take advantage.
And you could just see them pressing a little bit,
and certainly an outlier in last season's win. But I mean,
at least it's i'd say, regardless of what kind of

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team you have at Kentucky, the formula and again easier
said than done to be to be able to recreate it.
But keeping them off the field can only help you,
especially if again you're you're you're utilizing that time wisely, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
You know, And they I think should be able to
run the ball better than they did last year. Although
they got a fair amount of yards if you look
at that box score, they also threw for two forty
three and it's a whole lot more than eighty five.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
And that game makes you wonder how the season ended
up the way it did because it wasn't you know,
Miss was viewed as a really good team at that time,
and they went on to be they went on to
be a really good team the.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Rest of the year.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
Well in Kentucky had played Georgia really well, right, but
Kentucky was just too much, too up and down last
season because there's also mixed in there a very poor
performance against South Carolina and then they had the games
against Vandy and Auburn where they got out of the
gate pretty well and then adversity hit and they didn't

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handle that well. Let's that was That's one area where
and you know this probably we get a little glimpse
into this tomorrow is being able to handle adversity well
better than they did last year, and you know that
would be a big plus for them.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Also, Tom really appreciates your Tom. Enjoy the game tomorrow
and we will talk soon, my friend.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Take care.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Sounds good, Talk to you next week, all right.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
That is Tom Leach, the voice of the Kentucky Wildcats. Yeah,
that Kentucky went of course, the biggest win they had
a year ago. And in that game, I mean, it
really was the perfect scenario for Kentucky to limit Old
Miss in a way that they just couldn't be who
they wanted to be they couldn't get on the field,
and when they did get on the field, Kentucky would
get off the field pretty quickly three and out. Therefore,

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any time Ole miss would get a chance, even though
the game was in reach, or maybe they even had
a lead, it ended up to where they just were
too tight and Kentucky took advantage, and you had probably
one of the better Brock Vandergriff games. And then you
also had to remember, you know, Barry and Brown, Dane Key,
those guys really talented players, which by the way, Dan
Key looked really good in his debut in Nebraska. Barryon
Brown maybe one of the best catches of the first

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weekend in the NFL that was taken away because of
a bad call about the refs. He's at LSU. So
sometimes it just plays out that way, right, It just
is better for everybody to move on. But that Kentucky
team last year, they did have some talented players that
you know, they just they couldn't couldn't get it, couldn't
get it working. All right, We've got Mayor Craig Greenberg
set to join us via phone coming up in just
a few minutes. But first let's get to an update

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of traffick and weather. In another news update with John
Shannon right here on news radio eight forty whas