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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Lord have mercy coordination is gonna have a heart attack.
Good morning, I'm Tony Cruz along with one of my
best dear friends, Oscar Combs. Uh, this is my surprise
guests of the day. I think that they're going to
start throwing in a bunch of people at me and
Bo Robinson. What's up, my man? How I'm doing better
(00:25):
now than I see YouTube? The Oscar Combs my brother
from another mother. How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Hey? You doing too? I'm doing just great. I got
up at four o'clock this morning to come over and said,
I didn't sleep any at all last night. You didn't
because I'm coming to the w h a S headquarter.
The one entity that had more influence on me starting
the cats falls than anyone.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Else was WHS Radio. Yes House, So let's put his
mic a little bit closer to him, if you don't
mind helping me out here in some engineering feats. Go ahead, Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
My wife and I had just sold our paper and
hazard in nineteen seventy five. Nineteen seventy six, Kentucky's having
a terrible year, but they end up winning enough games
to get to the nit at which they're supposed to
be Louisville in the second round, but louis got upset
in the first round. But I was sitting with people
behind doctor Odell Singletary, the president at the time. Three
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gentlemen dress like Philadelphia lawyers maybe were, And we watched
the first game and they won one second game, and
our group, our alumni group, had decided to come back
after the second game because there's no way Kentucky was
going to win more than one game, Okay, So I
decided to stay on with my wife. So the next
game we come back and all the Kentucky fans are gone.
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They're headed back to Kentucky, except these three gentlemen and
one on was from New York, one was from Philadelphia,
one was from Boston, and they all worked there in Manhattan.
And I thought they were the Kentucky group. But there
were big Kentucky fans. I want to say. They were
in their late forties maybe, And so I struck up
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a conversation with him and I said, you know where
are y'all from in Kentucky. We've never been in Kentucky.
I said, well, how did you become Kentucky fans? He says,
you've heard of w HJAS we listened to them all
the time.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah. Pat Riley has a story about that too, right, Yes,
and his dad go up in Illinois and listen on
a mountain.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
And on our way back home we got to talking
about you know, if there we know there's fans in Kentucky,
but you know, I bet those three guys would subscribe
to a weekly publication in Kentucky. And that was a
final nail and in the rest of his history.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So you went with three people that decided to pay
for the Catspaws, and you were the first to start
anything like this as I understand it, in the nation.
And what I mean by that is basically a big
fag a big magazine fan magazine that wound up, you know,
for anybody who wanted to, you know, find out more
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research the team, get to know the players, have interviews
with the coaches, and along the way start learning, you know,
getting recruits or or or at least you know, some
insinuation of recruits and all that kind of stuff. You
started this whole yeah thing.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
In my view there for the first five or six years,
if we got a lot of talents from the big
city media, why would anybody want to know where a
kid was going to be uh in the four H
club or not if he was a basketball player. Well,
we found out people wouldn't know everything about now you
know how that's covered by the regular media. Uh, but
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we we started out with that and uh, the word
of mouth was really good. We could we'd travel on
the road, I take an extra hundred copies and drop
them in the lobby of a hotel in Waco, Texas
played Baylor and there would be literally thousands of people
from out in the Midwest and West that would see
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that one Kentucky am and they stay overnight in the hotel.
They picked it up, took it home, whim and our
subscription just really took call factor the second year and
at one point we had subscribers in all fifty states
and twenty seven foreign countries, with three in Russia.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
You've got some copies in there.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Why you know, we had the big chairman who didn't
last through the spring training, Binkie Uther banking.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Back in the day. So just to let people know
if if you are enjoy watching any recruiting website in America,
the guy that I believe originated this is is right
before me, Oscar Combs. Keeping up on things like that,
and it became huge. I mean, look at it. You
know all the different things that have come off of that. Now.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Back in the day, the only thing you saw on
recruiting before they actually showed up on campus was the
annual Street and Smith yearbook. That's right, and they always
had a top one hundred. And at one point in time,
there was a former Eastern Kentucky and that worked for
the AP. His name was Ken Mink, and he ran
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that for several years for the APE. And this one
year Kentucky had a player that finished number one hundred
on it. He really wasn't a major college prospect, but
it was coming to Kentucky and he was a kid
who made Troy McKinley oh yeah. And I called Ken Mink,
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I said, Ken, I love Troy McKinley, but you can't
tell me he's in the top one hundred country. He said,
if he's good enough to get a scholarship in Kentucky,
he's in my top one hundred.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Great story, all right, more with the big old Oscar
Combs joining us here on news radio A forty whas Marty,
It's eight sixteen of news radio, A forty whs well,
I somehow this became a reminiscing show, and I'm very
thankful Gus Allen put this together. Oscar Comb's been a
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long time friend of mine and I'll get into that
more here in just a little bit. And Bo Robinson
who helped us so much on derby coverage and doing
sports in the afternoon with Terry, we appreciate you too, both.
Thanks and he was kind enough to drive Oscar in here.
So getting back together. I was so nervous when I
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was going to meet you for the first time. I
got the job of sports talk at WHAS Radio and
I just threw myself into it. Back then, we didn't
have you know, Internet yet it was coming close. But
I would go and I would go and tape, uh
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go to UK. Well, my guess maybe this is before
I got sports actually to bring it back to Van
Van so he would have we could cover Kentucky and
I thought a way that we needed to because we
could cover Louisville, you know, Van or Paul would get
tape from them, so I'd go to the coaches things
and I got to know you guys from that. You
were kind of enough, you know, just to meet me
with with lunch and stuff like that, and edge to
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McAtee me on the Big Blue Nation and the Wildcats. Uh,
and you were just instrumental. And you know my work
on w h AS Radio, and you know I was
on the Big Blue Network or UK Network there for
about three or four years with Dick Gabriel and I
also have been on the U of L network doing
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Siebine reports back in the day as well. So I
don't know how how that happened, but I appreciate all
that you did for me.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Appreciate all you've done for me and h A yes.
And you know, I go back to the days when
Wayne Perky was in the afternoon before Terry came along
and I met Terry, and I.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Want to Syne was doing the mornings. I think who's
doing afternoons? There was that Gary Uh, Gary Burbank, Yeah, yeah, Gary.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Bourber And so when Terry come along, I met him
at a UK football game and had him and his
wife up. I threw a party when we put our
yearbooks out. We put out a high school yearbook at
a college yearbook, and we had all her big advertisers
and they were kind enough to me. I want to
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say around eighty starting in eighty eighty one, I'd always
come down, uh during the State Fair and with perre
On hs in their little ten once a year. Yeah,
and uh, I'm trying to remember the guy's name now,
Sheer that was Bob. He played a joke on me
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once he did I'll tell you this is he still living? No,
he's He was trying to impress me that he wasn't
all Louisville, you know, that he was equal Kentucky and Louisville.
And I was still pretty young at that time. So
he invited me down to the studios and that's when
they were in the old W. Curry Journal building and
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uh so I came in and we go to lunch
and come back and showed that I'll walk in. Yeah
it looks Bowls fan room everything, and uh, Jovie was
real route up at the time because he thought that
he was getting short change in Cliff, which you know
was just typical malarkey. But anyway, they thought that. And
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so when I went back, I said, you know, I said,
you see Bob Shears, I was, he's not just a
Lovell fan. He's got this big poster here and he's
got this over here, and you know, he's got a
big clock here with UK and he's got a big
picture of haight Off there and I said, you know, yo,
don't got just wrong. Well, about a week later, one
of the friends that I knew that was close to
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one of the guys that worked here at HS come,
he said, Oscar, you were ahead. I said, what do
you mean? He said, all that stuff in his office
was gone with And yeah, but I love it, looking
at hindsight, HS was always kind of me, and you know,
I'm just thankful that you know, three guys up in
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New York listen to w h A s Height offer up.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah. I remember it was a PBS special and pat
Riley was talking about his career. This is prior to
I think even him becoming a coacher. Maybe he had
just become the coach of the Lakers or something. And
he indicated that he and his dad used to listen
to UK basketball. Was he from New Yorker or Illinois?
New York, New York, New York, Yeah, and they would
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go up and because you know, we have a clear
channel at that time, and well we never.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Heard a HS broadcast in my home.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
No.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
At Golf on the Mountain, home. Yeah, you had to
go where the car radio would pick it up.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, that's kind of that's kind of what Riley was
talking about back in those those times. We gotta get
to another break. We'll come back more with the Oscar
Combs here on news radio A forty w h A
S say twenty five News Radio A forty w h
A S. He is a great sports philosopher as well
as a writer and expert of a lot of different things.
(11:35):
He's Oscar Combs, who's joining us this morning here on
news radio A forty WHS. We're reminiscing and we're also
talking about college basketball as as it is now where
like you, Oscar, I enjoyed, you know, watching athletes knowing
where they played, who they played for three or four years.
You know, we're old school kind of about that. But
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now there's and then there's nil. It's like we took
this quantum leap into something else where. It's now about
prop bets for the student, the students at the school
or whatever. And the athletes are here for what you
can say, a nine month vacation.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
That's it, you know, all expenses paid. But I look
back on a lot of this's this all started back
in the early eighties with two things. First, the money
has to come. That's when CVS and AVC and now
got busted up by Georgia and Oklahoma and took the
rights away from the NCAA, and all of a sudden,
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this huge pot of money started coming in to each conference,
each school. Right, what's the first reaction then, something, we're
paying our coach a million dollars a year. It should
have been a coach at Kentucky works no harder than
a coach at Eastern Kentucky University. Right now when you
try to just find our society at the difference, Oh,
it's it's all about you know, fair and it's a
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capitalising you know. But I think what we've got to
now with us in aail the Supreme Court three years
ago vote denied or nothing to basically say, any American
is entitled to receive or make any amount of money
he wants to and no one can stop him, not NCAA,
no school, And as long as he meets me on
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April fifteenth, everything square. This is the government talking. Of course,
it's like inflation, the one entity that always makes hay
with inflation that does nothing to earn it government because
the taxes go up, you know. And so now we've
got this thing with this money and not knowing what
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to do with it. And I have to be honest,
so I don't begrudge the athletes, and I do the
same thing with them. And they're entitled to it, you know.
But they're going to have to come up with something
that they have ignored for the last fifty years. But
until nineteen eighty eighty five, they had no money to
pay these shoes.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I'll tell you when I felt the pain of that,
because I could no longer watch an Eastern Western matchup
on regional ABC television. Right, Cedric Dempsey and Vin Let's
see the coach at Georgia Football, Vince Doualiy Vince Dooley said,
he started this operation and we need to break this apart.
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Just college football is going to just and they college
football is still leading the way, right, yes, because it's
the most popular sport. You know, Football's most popular. Well,
the biggest thing is it's Cedric Dempsey almost prophesied this.
He was the head of the NC Double a like
in the late seventies early eighties. He said, if we're
not careful this is what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
And yeah, and now what's now that TV's here? Gambling? Yeah,
now not always just gambling, but now you've got the
TV networks promoting gambling. I mean you can't turn on
the ESPN or CBS without all these gamlings. And the
NBA is Vegas now, and the collegees are partnering.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Sure, so we'll see what we'll see. I got we
got more details to talk about here with my old
buddy uh Oscar Combs and Tony Cruz wrote both old
buddies together, he and Bill Robinson. Here is news radio
eight forty w H's more coming up A thirty five
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in news radio A forty w H. A s we're
gonna have a little shooting the bird here.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
You know, you know I should have wore my red
shorts today.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
It was.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I was down there back shorts, looking around the road.
And now another guy east of of I seventy five,
or even east of I sixty five, just a bunch
of Louisville guys, I might say, an I love you all.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Well, we love you too, man. I mean, it's the
thing that I love about do d HS radio is
it endeared so many Kentuckians together. You tell other radio
stations obviously started evolving. Tony, is your mic up here?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Ye, Yeah, we got Oscar.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I'm doing great time.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I bit your underwear is red.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I heard that it was Tyler Burnet.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Uh man. I've listened all the way in for the
entire hour. It's been great. I appreciate you coming in
here Litutleville. I know you don't make it up here
every once in a while.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Well not too often, but when I do have a
good time.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yes, I bet uh. You know, we lost both Joe
B and Denny, you know, in the last couple of years.
And I know you were a part Tony Cruz did
that show to those two of the best?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, I miss them both dearly. And and the great
thing for me, I knew Danny. He knew me before
the Joe B and Danny Show, but we become inseparable
throughout all those years they were together.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Tell me I want to ask you about him, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
And for him to be at the funeral for Joe B.
Oh yeah. The expression on Danny's face just you could
just see the love he had for Joe B. Yeah,
oh yeah. And and no one would have ever dreamed that.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I was going to ask you that I want to
talk about. And I'm glad you guys brought that up
because that's the final thing that I wanted to talk about.
Is I think joe By and Denny for me as
a Lieuivillion and a Kentucky and kind of changed the
dynamic so much. You know, I never I'm never been
one of those guys like I hate the other school.
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I know people say hate, but do you really hate,
you know that kind of thing. I mean, I don't know,
but I thought that that show was I don't want
to call it a healing kind of thing, but it was.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
It was. You know, I tell you what, if you
didn't have to important to do that day and you
had a couple of airs like home, I'm gonna you
just slipped it on and listen where it was talking
about fishing, yeah, sportsback riding the derby. You know, it
didn't matter to those two. And Danny would come up.
He had a brother in law or sister in law
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lived in Lexington, uh, and he would come up and
have lunch with it at the churchyard quite often. And
when he got I got one picture him He's probably
been reprinted a million times of them ordering lunch at
the church one day and one is smiling, that's got
his arm wrapped around him. He's like, they got to
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be brothers, you know. There And and that.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Picture in the popcorn picture where where that is just
for guy that grew up in this state, that picture
is unbelievable and.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
For us older guys, the Kentucky Loiver rivalary, we remember
it as being the job and Denny ribery and all
the friction at that time. But very few people can
tell you how many games do you actually coach against
each other? Can interview?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Three?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Close? Is it? Two?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Four? That's it too?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Returnament and a home and away? Yeah, yeah, that's guess what?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah yeah there too too.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
You know, speaking of which, the more I got to
know Joe b, the more you know he talked to
me about replacing coach Rup and that has to be
one of the most strenuous jobs because Coach Trump was
sitting right behind him. But the first year or two
of Joeb's career and he had this, you know, he
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had this magnificent record at Kentucky and the championships and
everything else. What was that like what you witnessed with
and what how did Joe kind of change to this
mellow Joe.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I moved to Alection in seventy six, and that was
basically two years before Coach Rupp died, and I happened
to move listening quarter of a mile from where Coach
rup lived down I vised him, uh three times a
week the last year to take stuff to post starts
on me. He was always sign and you know he
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was just like a grandfather. He was warned, he was
a beat down, but he was appreciative and he loved attention.
And the problem that happened between Joe, not Joe, but
between Joby and Adolph. The fact you had Adols people
have been with him for thirty thirty five years, everybody
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from the scorekeeper to this and that, and they didn't
want to lose their connection. And then you had Joe
here who had a younger group of guys coming up.
Some of what you all will know but I won't
mention their name is protect. Then you know they wanted
it to be in where Adolphs guys was. So it
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even went from First Security Bank handling everything with UK
to Central Bank having everything with UK. First Security was
Adolph's bank, Central Bank was Jobey's bank, right, and those
groups of people, and the friction was that the Hangar
owns not the two coaches, and most people didn't recognize
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that I did not. And then after Coach Up passed
away in December ironic on then they played Kansas. He
I don't know how to say it, but the two
weeks before it he was in the hospital. He was
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just so broken down. Another story, but it's too long
to tell right now, but how I got him and
Joby together do a cover photo for a Cat's false
a year, but that last year and after I, after
I got it all done, I had him to sign
me five copies and oh man, Joby said, would you
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mind taking my five and getting Coach up to simm
And I said sure. He didn't want to do it
himself wanted I took coach Truck and Coach Rup and said, Oscar,
do you go out of the basketball very and I
said yeah, sure. He said would you mind take my
five and letting Joe sid them? And this was eight
nine months for the pasted away And then a couple
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of weeks later, Coach Reupt said, uh, esther, Coscar, I
need to send some up for post dollars, went down,
picked up. It was five large tubes and he said,
these are those prints you made me. He said, I
want my brothers and sisters to have them. Oh that's great.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Oh man, did your head explode when Rick Betino came
to Louisville. Did you know before anybody else? Well, I
can't imagine some of the guys. I you did you say,
I don't know who told you?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Well, did you say you're a liar? All I know?
I think I was in Philadelphia and we were getting
ready to play a tournament game there and Larry Ivey
walked and said, Fellas, no sweat, no sweat. I've got
it confirmed. He's not going to Louis's. And then it
was it was a three minutes later they were breaking
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into the news. Well that's when.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
By Town was trying to get him head issued job.
If you wanted.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
It, Rick, Well, suppose I heard suppose he had the
mission job. But he didn't have it. It had it
to both him stood. Chim Beckler said, you're not getting
a job. He was eight at the time. A job now,
the one job he had offered that he was really
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interested in. It was U n f V. Joe Yne
wanted no part of lots of.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Like Well, trust me, it's a storied rivalry for sure.
But we're about out of time. But I just can't
believe you went all this way. And Bo, thank you.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
You.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
You're welcome for for bringing Oscar. You You're you're a
real treat. And thanks for all your work that you
do with us. Uh here at iHeart in Louisville and
uh Oscar comes. I love you you. You are so
kind to me and so kind of a lot of people.
I just wanted to get on your good side.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Well I love everybody down here too, and they way
way back there, and some of the names I can't
even forget. But Van Vance, you know, I love him
to death. Yeah, you know, Terry Miners, you know, nobody
better than him. He can he can prick you one day,
he can stroke you next day. That's a job. Paul,
I'm Paul, Paul. I love him to death. You know
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the experiences he had late in life with his father,
take him up to the Washington d C. For those trips.
Nobody gets better than all these guys, you know. Well,
you just we just got to get everybody in the
Lexington and let them touch God's earth for real basketball.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I do want to say, I think did Terry replace
wild Bill Cody? Is that was? That was why? Well?
I thought so, I was. I was trying to get
that right. That stuck in my craw and I want
to make sure that we got that right. But anyway, Oscar,
your treat man, still your stories are Have you written
the big book? Though?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
You know the book? There were about four tempts at that,
uh real quick. And the first one was when I
sold my business and Cat's Boss in ninety seven. We
spent five years in Florida. I spent a good eight
to ten months, I mean, stacked pretty good. And I
was pretty proud of it, you know, spade and swayed
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you know that you expect from me. Yeah, And I
woke up about three o'clock in the morning. I had
a little private boat dock. I lived on a conal
there and got that and got me a wire waste
paper basket and got me a lighter and went down
and said on that dick and burn it page. And uh,
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I just thought, you know, I said, even bad people
don't need bad things written about them. Oh yeah, And
I and I couldn't just write the good thing saying
what a great guy John Smith is, and then everybody, yeah,
I remember him, you know, doing such and such, and
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then three or four times since then the people that say, so,
what I did in lieu of that is uh, with
my good friend bowl here do we did one hundred
and one episodes of Conversation with Oscar.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Okay, let's let's put that out there, the podcast. Bow.
How do we get a hold of it.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Let's see, there's multiple ways to get out there. You
can get on the iHeart app and speaker dot com okay,
access to him. I'm sorry, SoundCloud there's too many of them.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Or you can go to Oscar Combes dot com and
get the link. Clear.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
We're always tweeting, and the specific name of the show
is Conversations with Oscar Combs.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yea, and I mean to tell you that I'm jealous.
I mean you all got to listen to some of them.
They just break your heart. John Y Brown most awesome.
Three hours of it and he did not leave of that. Yeah, yeah,
me too.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Oh we got three minutes. Oh good.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I'll tell you one about Joe b the one that
we did together, which was like the greatest Christmas gift
I could ever receive them.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Only guy that has a better voice than Tony Vanetti.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
I know, I don't know about that. Tony's too good man.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I love.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
So we're sitting there and Oscar says, now, look, I
don't know how much we're going to get out of Joe.
We could get five minutes, ten minutes, fifteen minutes. I
don't know what we're going to get.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
And he was suffering a bad cold.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Okay, Now, as far as I'm concerned, I'm just happy
to be in the room with Oscar and Joe sitting
up producing the podcast. So Joe sits down and Oscar
and I were feeling pretty good. We've got an hour
out of them, and then two hours, three hours, four hours.
Oh yeah, I will tell you this. The only time
Joe by Hall stopped during this podcast was because somebody
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called him to take him out of waffle house.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
He can weave a story, though, I mean he could.
He could tell story of a teenager. He was a teenager,
didn't want to go on a date and he had
to plow the back forty and he picked a slower
mule because it would take longer and he wouldn't have
to go on the date. He would make that story
into the greatest story ever. Joe b was the best.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I had him to give one liner to all his
former players and rival coaches. Yeah, and he goes down
to the line they'd say, and he he he gave
a good one on Bob Knight, but they got Dick
or philps. He said, no comment, I don't blame Hi
and aies went on and on like Brown was another.
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And you know, I love Dale Brown. He's one of
my very best friends. And Joe today he died hated
Dale Brown. Dale Brown liked him. Yeah, and he tried
to tell Joe the reason I want to beat you
is I've not arrived until I beat Kentucky. Yeah, And
Joe didn't take it.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
That way really, yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't. I didn't
know that yet Dale till there was.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
A lot of They were very similar. I think they
were about to show, oh, you know, recruited so well.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Somebody has a question question, Tom says, I wonder if
Oscar used to attend my mom's my mom's Combs family
reunions a buck Horn Lake State Park. Did you ever
do that?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Buck Horn Lake.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Did you ever go to the Combes family reunion to.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I was want of the regionators in nineteen sixty four.
Burt Combs put it all together and Joe B. Hall
was at that first Combs reunion had about four thousand people.
The first one was actually memorial Jim and Hasherd and
then we moved into buck Horn Lake State Park. Earl
Combs was there the Great Baseball Yeah, yeah, he came.
(29:48):
There are lots of I tell you went off the air.
We had a lot of people pretending to be.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
How it is.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
You're a Holmes.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Come on, Oscar, love you man, I love you, and
I thank you all right, you made our day.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Made my week, the originator, you started it all.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
That's right, so here to blame.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Have a great one. Tony and Joy coming up next
on kentek Cana's Warning News News Radio A forty W
H A N. Thanks guys for putting this all together.
Bo
Lord have mercy coordination is gonna have a heart attack.
Good morning, I'm Tony Cruz along with one of my
best dear friends, Oscar Combs. Uh, this is my surprise
guests of the day. I think that they're going to
start throwing in a bunch of people at me and
Bo Robinson. What's up, my man? How I'm doing better
(00:25):
now than I see YouTube? The Oscar Combs my brother
from another mother. How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Hey? You doing too? I'm doing just great. I got
up at four o'clock this morning to come over and said,
I didn't sleep any at all last night. You didn't
because I'm coming to the w h a S headquarter.
The one entity that had more influence on me starting
the cats falls than anyone.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Else was WHS Radio. Yes House, So let's put his
mic a little bit closer to him, if you don't
mind helping me out here in some engineering feats. Go ahead, Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
My wife and I had just sold our paper and
hazard in nineteen seventy five. Nineteen seventy six, Kentucky's having
a terrible year, but they end up winning enough games
to get to the nit at which they're supposed to
be Louisville in the second round, but louis got upset
in the first round. But I was sitting with people
behind doctor Odell Singletary, the president at the time. Three
(01:25):
gentlemen dress like Philadelphia lawyers maybe were, And we watched
the first game and they won one second game, and
our group, our alumni group, had decided to come back
after the second game because there's no way Kentucky was
going to win more than one game, Okay, So I
decided to stay on with my wife. So the next
game we come back and all the Kentucky fans are gone.
(01:48):
They're headed back to Kentucky, except these three gentlemen and
one on was from New York, one was from Philadelphia,
one was from Boston, and they all worked there in Manhattan.
And I thought they were the Kentucky group. But there
were big Kentucky fans. I want to say. They were
in their late forties maybe, And so I struck up
(02:09):
a conversation with him and I said, you know where
are y'all from in Kentucky. We've never been in Kentucky.
I said, well, how did you become Kentucky fans? He says,
you've heard of w HJAS we listened to them all
the time.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah. Pat Riley has a story about that too, right, Yes,
and his dad go up in Illinois and listen on
a mountain.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
And on our way back home we got to talking
about you know, if there we know there's fans in Kentucky,
but you know, I bet those three guys would subscribe
to a weekly publication in Kentucky. And that was a
final nail and in the rest of his history.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So you went with three people that decided to pay
for the Catspaws, and you were the first to start
anything like this as I understand it, in the nation.
And what I mean by that is basically a big
fag a big magazine fan magazine that wound up, you know,
for anybody who wanted to, you know, find out more
(03:05):
research the team, get to know the players, have interviews
with the coaches, and along the way start learning, you know,
getting recruits or or or at least you know, some
insinuation of recruits and all that kind of stuff. You
started this whole yeah thing.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
In my view there for the first five or six years,
if we got a lot of talents from the big
city media, why would anybody want to know where a
kid was going to be uh in the four H
club or not if he was a basketball player. Well,
we found out people wouldn't know everything about now you
know how that's covered by the regular media. Uh, but
(03:46):
we we started out with that and uh, the word
of mouth was really good. We could we'd travel on
the road, I take an extra hundred copies and drop
them in the lobby of a hotel in Waco, Texas
played Baylor and there would be literally thousands of people
from out in the Midwest and West that would see
(04:06):
that one Kentucky am and they stay overnight in the hotel.
They picked it up, took it home, whim and our
subscription just really took call factor the second year and
at one point we had subscribers in all fifty states
and twenty seven foreign countries, with three in Russia.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
You've got some copies in there.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Why you know, we had the big chairman who didn't
last through the spring training, Binkie Uther banking.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Back in the day. So just to let people know
if if you are enjoy watching any recruiting website in America,
the guy that I believe originated this is is right
before me, Oscar Combs. Keeping up on things like that,
and it became huge. I mean, look at it. You
know all the different things that have come off of that. Now.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Back in the day, the only thing you saw on
recruiting before they actually showed up on campus was the
annual Street and Smith yearbook. That's right, and they always
had a top one hundred. And at one point in time,
there was a former Eastern Kentucky and that worked for
the AP. His name was Ken Mink, and he ran
(05:26):
that for several years for the APE. And this one
year Kentucky had a player that finished number one hundred
on it. He really wasn't a major college prospect, but
it was coming to Kentucky and he was a kid
who made Troy McKinley oh yeah. And I called Ken Mink,
(05:48):
I said, Ken, I love Troy McKinley, but you can't
tell me he's in the top one hundred country. He said,
if he's good enough to get a scholarship in Kentucky,
he's in my top one hundred.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Great story, all right, more with the big old Oscar
Combs joining us here on news radio A forty whas Marty,
It's eight sixteen of news radio, A forty whs well,
I somehow this became a reminiscing show, and I'm very
thankful Gus Allen put this together. Oscar Comb's been a
(06:21):
long time friend of mine and I'll get into that
more here in just a little bit. And Bo Robinson
who helped us so much on derby coverage and doing
sports in the afternoon with Terry, we appreciate you too, both.
Thanks and he was kind enough to drive Oscar in here.
So getting back together. I was so nervous when I
(06:41):
was going to meet you for the first time. I
got the job of sports talk at WHAS Radio and
I just threw myself into it. Back then, we didn't
have you know, Internet yet it was coming close. But
I would go and I would go and tape, uh
(07:01):
go to UK. Well, my guess maybe this is before
I got sports actually to bring it back to Van
Van so he would have we could cover Kentucky and
I thought a way that we needed to because we
could cover Louisville, you know, Van or Paul would get
tape from them, so I'd go to the coaches things
and I got to know you guys from that. You
were kind of enough, you know, just to meet me
with with lunch and stuff like that, and edge to
(07:24):
McAtee me on the Big Blue Nation and the Wildcats. Uh,
and you were just instrumental. And you know my work
on w h AS Radio, and you know I was
on the Big Blue Network or UK Network there for
about three or four years with Dick Gabriel and I
also have been on the U of L network doing
(07:45):
Siebine reports back in the day as well. So I
don't know how how that happened, but I appreciate all
that you did for me.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Appreciate all you've done for me and h A yes.
And you know, I go back to the days when
Wayne Perky was in the afternoon before Terry came along
and I met Terry, and I.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Want to Syne was doing the mornings. I think who's
doing afternoons? There was that Gary Uh, Gary Burbank, Yeah, yeah, Gary.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Bourber And so when Terry come along, I met him
at a UK football game and had him and his
wife up. I threw a party when we put our
yearbooks out. We put out a high school yearbook at
a college yearbook, and we had all her big advertisers
and they were kind enough to me. I want to
(08:35):
say around eighty starting in eighty eighty one, I'd always
come down, uh during the State Fair and with perre
On hs in their little ten once a year. Yeah,
and uh, I'm trying to remember the guy's name now,
Sheer that was Bob. He played a joke on me
(08:57):
once he did I'll tell you this is he still living? No,
he's He was trying to impress me that he wasn't
all Louisville, you know, that he was equal Kentucky and Louisville.
And I was still pretty young at that time. So
he invited me down to the studios and that's when
they were in the old W. Curry Journal building and
(09:21):
uh so I came in and we go to lunch
and come back and showed that I'll walk in. Yeah
it looks Bowls fan room everything, and uh, Jovie was
real route up at the time because he thought that
he was getting short change in Cliff, which you know
was just typical malarkey. But anyway, they thought that. And
(09:43):
so when I went back, I said, you know, I said,
you see Bob Shears, I was, he's not just a
Lovell fan. He's got this big poster here and he's
got this over here, and you know, he's got a
big clock here with UK and he's got a big
picture of haight Off there and I said, you know, yo,
don't got just wrong. Well, about a week later, one
of the friends that I knew that was close to
(10:06):
one of the guys that worked here at HS come,
he said, Oscar, you were ahead. I said, what do
you mean? He said, all that stuff in his office
was gone with And yeah, but I love it, looking
at hindsight, HS was always kind of me, and you know,
I'm just thankful that you know, three guys up in
(10:29):
New York listen to w h A s Height offer up.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah. I remember it was a PBS special and pat
Riley was talking about his career. This is prior to
I think even him becoming a coacher. Maybe he had
just become the coach of the Lakers or something. And
he indicated that he and his dad used to listen
to UK basketball. Was he from New Yorker or Illinois?
New York, New York, New York, Yeah, and they would
(10:56):
go up and because you know, we have a clear
channel at that time, and well we never.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Heard a HS broadcast in my home.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
No.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
At Golf on the Mountain, home. Yeah, you had to
go where the car radio would pick it up.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, that's kind of that's kind of what Riley was
talking about back in those those times. We gotta get
to another break. We'll come back more with the Oscar
Combs here on news radio A forty w h A
S say twenty five News Radio A forty w h
A S. He is a great sports philosopher as well
as a writer and expert of a lot of different things.
(11:35):
He's Oscar Combs, who's joining us this morning here on
news radio A forty WHS. We're reminiscing and we're also
talking about college basketball as as it is now where
like you, Oscar, I enjoyed, you know, watching athletes knowing
where they played, who they played for three or four years.
You know, we're old school kind of about that. But
(11:56):
now there's and then there's nil. It's like we took
this quantum leap into something else where. It's now about
prop bets for the student, the students at the school
or whatever. And the athletes are here for what you
can say, a nine month vacation.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
That's it, you know, all expenses paid. But I look
back on a lot of this's this all started back
in the early eighties with two things. First, the money
has to come. That's when CVS and AVC and now
got busted up by Georgia and Oklahoma and took the
rights away from the NCAA, and all of a sudden,
(12:36):
this huge pot of money started coming in to each conference,
each school. Right, what's the first reaction then, something, we're
paying our coach a million dollars a year. It should
have been a coach at Kentucky works no harder than
a coach at Eastern Kentucky University. Right now when you
try to just find our society at the difference, Oh,
it's it's all about you know, fair and it's a
(12:58):
capitalising you know. But I think what we've got to
now with us in aail the Supreme Court three years
ago vote denied or nothing to basically say, any American
is entitled to receive or make any amount of money
he wants to and no one can stop him, not NCAA,
no school, And as long as he meets me on
(13:21):
April fifteenth, everything square. This is the government talking. Of course,
it's like inflation, the one entity that always makes hay
with inflation that does nothing to earn it government because
the taxes go up, you know. And so now we've
got this thing with this money and not knowing what
(13:42):
to do with it. And I have to be honest,
so I don't begrudge the athletes, and I do the
same thing with them. And they're entitled to it, you know.
But they're going to have to come up with something
that they have ignored for the last fifty years. But
until nineteen eighty eighty five, they had no money to
pay these shoes.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I'll tell you when I felt the pain of that,
because I could no longer watch an Eastern Western matchup
on regional ABC television. Right, Cedric Dempsey and Vin Let's
see the coach at Georgia Football, Vince Doualiy Vince Dooley said,
he started this operation and we need to break this apart.
(14:25):
Just college football is going to just and they college
football is still leading the way, right, yes, because it's
the most popular sport. You know, Football's most popular. Well,
the biggest thing is it's Cedric Dempsey almost prophesied this.
He was the head of the NC Double a like
in the late seventies early eighties. He said, if we're
not careful this is what's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
And yeah, and now what's now that TV's here? Gambling? Yeah,
now not always just gambling, but now you've got the
TV networks promoting gambling. I mean you can't turn on
the ESPN or CBS without all these gamlings. And the
NBA is Vegas now, and the collegees are partnering.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Sure, so we'll see what we'll see. I got we
got more details to talk about here with my old
buddy uh Oscar Combs and Tony Cruz wrote both old
buddies together, he and Bill Robinson. Here is news radio
eight forty w H's more coming up A thirty five
(15:25):
in news radio A forty w H. A s we're
gonna have a little shooting the bird here.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
You know, you know I should have wore my red
shorts today.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
It was.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I was down there back shorts, looking around the road.
And now another guy east of of I seventy five,
or even east of I sixty five, just a bunch
of Louisville guys, I might say, an I love you all.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Well, we love you too, man. I mean, it's the
thing that I love about do d HS radio is
it endeared so many Kentuckians together. You tell other radio
stations obviously started evolving. Tony, is your mic up here?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Ye, Yeah, we got Oscar.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I'm doing great time.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I bit your underwear is red.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I heard that it was Tyler Burnet.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Uh man. I've listened all the way in for the
entire hour. It's been great. I appreciate you coming in
here Litutleville. I know you don't make it up here
every once in a while.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Well not too often, but when I do have a
good time.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yes, I bet uh. You know, we lost both Joe
B and Denny, you know, in the last couple of years.
And I know you were a part Tony Cruz did
that show to those two of the best?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, I miss them both dearly. And and the great
thing for me, I knew Danny. He knew me before
the Joe B and Danny Show, but we become inseparable
throughout all those years they were together.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Tell me I want to ask you about him, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
And for him to be at the funeral for Joe B.
Oh yeah. The expression on Danny's face just you could
just see the love he had for Joe B. Yeah,
oh yeah. And and no one would have ever dreamed that.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I was going to ask you that I want to
talk about. And I'm glad you guys brought that up
because that's the final thing that I wanted to talk about.
Is I think joe By and Denny for me as
a Lieuivillion and a Kentucky and kind of changed the
dynamic so much. You know, I never I'm never been
one of those guys like I hate the other school.
(17:36):
I know people say hate, but do you really hate,
you know that kind of thing. I mean, I don't know,
but I thought that that show was I don't want
to call it a healing kind of thing, but it was.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
It was. You know, I tell you what, if you
didn't have to important to do that day and you
had a couple of airs like home, I'm gonna you
just slipped it on and listen where it was talking
about fishing, yeah, sportsback riding the derby. You know, it
didn't matter to those two. And Danny would come up.
He had a brother in law or sister in law
(18:08):
lived in Lexington, uh, and he would come up and
have lunch with it at the churchyard quite often. And
when he got I got one picture him He's probably
been reprinted a million times of them ordering lunch at
the church one day and one is smiling, that's got
his arm wrapped around him. He's like, they got to
(18:29):
be brothers, you know. There And and that.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Picture in the popcorn picture where where that is just
for guy that grew up in this state, that picture
is unbelievable and.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
For us older guys, the Kentucky Loiver rivalary, we remember
it as being the job and Denny ribery and all
the friction at that time. But very few people can
tell you how many games do you actually coach against
each other? Can interview?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Three?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Close? Is it? Two?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Four? That's it too?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Returnament and a home and away? Yeah, yeah, that's guess what?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah yeah there too too.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
You know, speaking of which, the more I got to
know Joe b, the more you know he talked to
me about replacing coach Rup and that has to be
one of the most strenuous jobs because Coach Trump was
sitting right behind him. But the first year or two
of Joeb's career and he had this, you know, he
(19:30):
had this magnificent record at Kentucky and the championships and
everything else. What was that like what you witnessed with
and what how did Joe kind of change to this
mellow Joe.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I moved to Alection in seventy six, and that was
basically two years before Coach Rupp died, and I happened
to move listening quarter of a mile from where Coach
rup lived down I vised him, uh three times a
week the last year to take stuff to post starts
on me. He was always sign and you know he
(20:01):
was just like a grandfather. He was warned, he was
a beat down, but he was appreciative and he loved attention.
And the problem that happened between Joe, not Joe, but
between Joby and Adolph. The fact you had Adols people
have been with him for thirty thirty five years, everybody
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from the scorekeeper to this and that, and they didn't
want to lose their connection. And then you had Joe
here who had a younger group of guys coming up.
Some of what you all will know but I won't
mention their name is protect. Then you know they wanted
it to be in where Adolphs guys was. So it
(20:43):
even went from First Security Bank handling everything with UK
to Central Bank having everything with UK. First Security was
Adolph's bank, Central Bank was Jobey's bank, right, and those
groups of people, and the friction was that the Hangar
owns not the two coaches, and most people didn't recognize
(21:05):
that I did not. And then after Coach Up passed
away in December ironic on then they played Kansas. He
I don't know how to say it, but the two
weeks before it he was in the hospital. He was
(21:26):
just so broken down. Another story, but it's too long
to tell right now, but how I got him and
Joby together do a cover photo for a Cat's false
a year, but that last year and after I, after
I got it all done, I had him to sign
me five copies and oh man, Joby said, would you
(21:47):
mind taking my five and getting Coach up to simm
And I said sure. He didn't want to do it
himself wanted I took coach Truck and Coach Rup and said, Oscar,
do you go out of the basketball very and I
said yeah, sure. He said would you mind take my
five and letting Joe sid them? And this was eight
nine months for the pasted away And then a couple
(22:09):
of weeks later, Coach Reupt said, uh, esther, Coscar, I
need to send some up for post dollars, went down,
picked up. It was five large tubes and he said,
these are those prints you made me. He said, I
want my brothers and sisters to have them. Oh that's great.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Oh man, did your head explode when Rick Betino came
to Louisville. Did you know before anybody else? Well, I
can't imagine some of the guys. I you did you say,
I don't know who told you?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Well, did you say you're a liar? All I know?
I think I was in Philadelphia and we were getting
ready to play a tournament game there and Larry Ivey
walked and said, Fellas, no sweat, no sweat. I've got
it confirmed. He's not going to Louis's. And then it
was it was a three minutes later they were breaking
(22:55):
into the news. Well that's when.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
By Town was trying to get him head issued job.
If you wanted.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
It, Rick, Well, suppose I heard suppose he had the
mission job. But he didn't have it. It had it
to both him stood. Chim Beckler said, you're not getting
a job. He was eight at the time. A job now,
the one job he had offered that he was really
(23:21):
interested in. It was U n f V. Joe Yne
wanted no part of lots of.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Like Well, trust me, it's a storied rivalry for sure.
But we're about out of time. But I just can't
believe you went all this way. And Bo, thank you.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
You.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
You're welcome for for bringing Oscar. You You're you're a
real treat. And thanks for all your work that you
do with us. Uh here at iHeart in Louisville and
uh Oscar comes. I love you you. You are so
kind to me and so kind of a lot of people.
I just wanted to get on your good side.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Well I love everybody down here too, and they way
way back there, and some of the names I can't
even forget. But Van Vance, you know, I love him
to death. Yeah, you know, Terry Miners, you know, nobody
better than him. He can he can prick you one day,
he can stroke you next day. That's a job. Paul,
I'm Paul, Paul. I love him to death. You know
(24:25):
the experiences he had late in life with his father,
take him up to the Washington d C. For those trips.
Nobody gets better than all these guys, you know. Well,
you just we just got to get everybody in the
Lexington and let them touch God's earth for real basketball.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I do want to say, I think did Terry replace
wild Bill Cody? Is that was? That was why? Well?
I thought so, I was. I was trying to get
that right. That stuck in my craw and I want
to make sure that we got that right. But anyway, Oscar,
your treat man, still your stories are Have you written
the big book? Though?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
You know the book? There were about four tempts at that,
uh real quick. And the first one was when I
sold my business and Cat's Boss in ninety seven. We
spent five years in Florida. I spent a good eight
to ten months, I mean, stacked pretty good. And I
was pretty proud of it, you know, spade and swayed
(25:27):
you know that you expect from me. Yeah, And I
woke up about three o'clock in the morning. I had
a little private boat dock. I lived on a conal
there and got that and got me a wire waste
paper basket and got me a lighter and went down
and said on that dick and burn it page. And uh,
(25:48):
I just thought, you know, I said, even bad people
don't need bad things written about them. Oh yeah, And
I and I couldn't just write the good thing saying
what a great guy John Smith is, and then everybody, yeah,
I remember him, you know, doing such and such, and
(26:09):
then three or four times since then the people that say, so,
what I did in lieu of that is uh, with
my good friend bowl here do we did one hundred
and one episodes of Conversation with Oscar.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Okay, let's let's put that out there, the podcast. Bow.
How do we get a hold of it.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Let's see, there's multiple ways to get out there. You
can get on the iHeart app and speaker dot com okay,
access to him. I'm sorry, SoundCloud there's too many of them.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Or you can go to Oscar Combes dot com and
get the link. Clear.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
We're always tweeting, and the specific name of the show
is Conversations with Oscar Combs.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yea, and I mean to tell you that I'm jealous.
I mean you all got to listen to some of them.
They just break your heart. John Y Brown most awesome.
Three hours of it and he did not leave of that. Yeah, yeah,
me too.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Oh we got three minutes. Oh good.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I'll tell you one about Joe b the one that
we did together, which was like the greatest Christmas gift
I could ever receive them.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Only guy that has a better voice than Tony Vanetti.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
I know, I don't know about that. Tony's too good man.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I love.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
So we're sitting there and Oscar says, now, look, I
don't know how much we're going to get out of Joe.
We could get five minutes, ten minutes, fifteen minutes. I
don't know what we're going to get.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
And he was suffering a bad cold.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Okay, Now, as far as I'm concerned, I'm just happy
to be in the room with Oscar and Joe sitting
up producing the podcast. So Joe sits down and Oscar
and I were feeling pretty good. We've got an hour
out of them, and then two hours, three hours, four hours.
Oh yeah, I will tell you this. The only time
Joe by Hall stopped during this podcast was because somebody
(27:52):
called him to take him out of waffle house.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
He can weave a story, though, I mean he could.
He could tell story of a teenager. He was a teenager,
didn't want to go on a date and he had
to plow the back forty and he picked a slower
mule because it would take longer and he wouldn't have
to go on the date. He would make that story
into the greatest story ever. Joe b was the best.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I had him to give one liner to all his
former players and rival coaches. Yeah, and he goes down
to the line they'd say, and he he he gave
a good one on Bob Knight, but they got Dick
or philps. He said, no comment, I don't blame Hi
and aies went on and on like Brown was another.
(28:37):
And you know, I love Dale Brown. He's one of
my very best friends. And Joe today he died hated
Dale Brown. Dale Brown liked him. Yeah, and he tried
to tell Joe the reason I want to beat you
is I've not arrived until I beat Kentucky. Yeah, And
Joe didn't take it.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
That way really, yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't. I didn't
know that yet Dale till there was.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
A lot of They were very similar. I think they
were about to show, oh, you know, recruited so well.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Somebody has a question question, Tom says, I wonder if
Oscar used to attend my mom's my mom's Combs family
reunions a buck Horn Lake State Park. Did you ever
do that?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Buck Horn Lake.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Did you ever go to the Combes family reunion to.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I was want of the regionators in nineteen sixty four.
Burt Combs put it all together and Joe B. Hall
was at that first Combs reunion had about four thousand people.
The first one was actually memorial Jim and Hasherd and
then we moved into buck Horn Lake State Park. Earl
Combs was there the Great Baseball Yeah, yeah, he came.
(29:48):
There are lots of I tell you went off the air.
We had a lot of people pretending to be.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
How it is.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
You're a Holmes.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Come on, Oscar, love you man, I love you, and
I thank you all right, you made our day.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Made my week, the originator, you started it all.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
That's right, so here to blame.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Have a great one. Tony and Joy coming up next
on kentek Cana's Warning News News Radio A forty W
H A N. Thanks guys for putting this all together.
Bo
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