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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning. I'm Tony Cruz. Captain ed Galleryan is a
(00:03):
highly combat decorated career senior Navy Seal officer and an
Army ranger two of the most grueling special operation training
programs in the world. He's joining us this morning. The
accolades I have for you, Ed. I could go on,
but we wouldn't have a show together. I appreciate your time,
Captain d How are you.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Good morning, Tony, cold out here as we navigate the
Polar Express on the farm. But thank you for that introduction,
and we'll jump right in on some significant developments in
twenty twenty four if you if you have time.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, let's let's look back. And because the seeing seeing
the past is really seeing the future in so many cases,
right so, and.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
That's right on, and many times it's not what's right
in front of us, it's what's behind that. So let's
talk about the evolution of drone warfare, because we're watching
that closely. A little known fact Tony is ISIS was
among the first groups to weaponiz a small, consumer off
the shelf quad copter drones, using them to conduct recon
and turning into bombers. No kidding against US forces in
Iraq as far back as twenty seventeen. As you might guess,
(01:08):
they were disruptive the US military operations, caused casualties and delays,
and there were as many as a dozen of them
flying at one time, given the enemy a tactical advantage
because we had difficulty detecting and defending them. Now, as
a reminder, US air defenses are designed to detect and
defend against conventional threats like aircraft crews, missiles, large fast
(01:29):
moving flying items of all sorts, rotary ring, fixed wing,
and such. So there is a steam in a gap
that the enemy was exploiting. And the proliferation and use
of these drones that are too numerous, too small, and
too low to detect and defeat are a significant challenge
for our nation, as we've seen recently here in the US.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Well, let's talk about what have we seen in the US,
because we haven't been hearing anything about that in particularly
in New Jersey and parts of New York. Can even
and write Patterson Air Force Base, who do we know
anything about these drones that were flying over those locations?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
No, but the new administration has stated that they released
information about that. As we talked about it a few
weeks back. Now, can I talk a bit more about
what's going on over in Ukraine with these drones?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Please do.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Ukraine is a test bed. We now have drone dogfight
warfare going on over there. We're in a whole nother
chapter now. The biggest limitation of a drone is, of course,
the skill of the operator, Tony, when that becomes replaced
by artificial intelligence, I want you to think flying terminators
that can do reconnaissance or attack or even dog fighting.
(02:41):
Think of the ability that offers an adversary. I almost
terminator flying robots. So whoever gains that drone superiority has
a massive advantage. Russia might be slightly behind Ukraine, who's
been forced to be creative and innovative to a shortfall
in manpowered and combat capability in comparison to the Russians,
(03:03):
but Russia is still a first world military. And what
you really got to watch is China, the largest producer
of US small drones, who was watching and testing how
to put their advantages to use against US and others. Tony,
let me add something else. Did you hear that reports
are just a few weeks back, a Russian member of
the Wagner group. Now remember that's the Russian mercenary army, right,
(03:27):
what fought at the border with two passports? Four thousand
dollars in US money? And what do you think was
in his backpack? A small drone?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Wow, I had not heard that report. I want to
keep it in Ukraine for a second. And that is
what we've seen with North Korean Russia. I don't know
that we've brought this up. You and I've talked about
it privately, But what are the North Koreans learning in battle?
Because they haven't been in a war per se, you
know since first sixty years?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, great points seventy five, actually since Foreign Peninsula memory.
It's not ended, it's it is under an armistice, which
is a fancy word for a cease fire. There's no
peace treaty. So Russia's reliance under North Korean troops is
not for a significant change on the battlefield. Russians lose
the North of thirty thousand troops a month. Wow, reports
are they brought in about ten thousand North Koreas. The
(04:22):
real to your point, Tony, the real strategic concern from
a professional military community and intelligence officers would be the
North Koreans are gaining invaluable combat experience and confidence for
the first time in nearly seventy five years. Now. Overlay
that that both the North Koreans and Russians have signed
a mutual support treaty for the first time a few
(04:45):
months back. That should be a great concern on the
Korean Peninsula and Japan, because North Korea has valued to
take back South Korea, and the Russians still claim some
of the Japanese outer islands, and there's been an ongoing
dispute about those that hadn't been the news much, but
those could be grounds for both Russia and North Korea
to make moves there in North Korea and in the
(05:08):
northern waters they're off Japan.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Wow, let's take a time out. We're with Ed galerin
former Well, he's Navy seal officer. We'll talk to him
more here in just a moment on news radio a
Fort WHLS. Let's get some traffic with Bobby Ellis and
whether I've got the METS forecast coming up. Ed Galeran,
if you've heard of Galran Farms in Shelby County, Well,
sometimes we call him farmer Ed, sometime we call him
(05:33):
Seal Commodore. He earned that rank and also four bronze
stars for leadership and courage, and also the Presidential Unit
citations as well. That's equivalent to a Navy Cross or
his unit's extraordinary heroism. And appreciate your time. Ed all right,
twenty twenty five, today President Trump becomes President Trump again.
(05:54):
If you will, what are you expecting militarily speaking and
otherwise from a geopolitical level.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Here, buckle up, We're going to see a reset geomilitary
politically as our adversaries. Remember Chinese, China, Russia, North Korea
and Iran are basically the four horsemen of apocalypse for
all tests and purposes right now, and it's the most
vulnerable time since pre World War Two. We've got some
catching up to do with respect to US power around
(06:22):
the world. That's diplomatic, informational, military, and economic. But what
I want to jump in on, Tony, is something that
could change the nature of warfare to watch for. Okay,
there was a milestone in Ukraine at the Battle of Lapitski.
Now it's a little known battle, but essentially what happened,
for the first time ever you had robot warfare. You
had the Ukrainians field what would be called ground drones
(06:43):
aerial drones to attack Russian forces. So I want you
to think almost a computer gain type scenario where you
have those fielded without humans in the actual either the
drones or the ground vehicles. And that's a whole new
chapter of warfare. So think folks with headset goggles, computer
(07:04):
gained type activities controlling the fight on the ground. And
they were doing a whole series of types of missions
that would normally be done by you know, armed troops,
but it was done by basically robots. So what do
you think of that, Tony?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I think that I'm in a Will Smith movie when
I hear those kinds of things, and I'm wondering, you know,
we're turning into castl of society. We are we just
how are we using these kinds of things as it
comes to people or will we have boots on the
ground here in thirty years or twenty years.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
That's a great question that's going to largely depend on
who wins the artificial intelligence race, which is arguably the
Manhattan Project that you were called the race to develop
the atomic bomb. It's the Manhattan Project of our era.
Whoever wins that race will likely have dominance in the world.
So back to that fight on the battlefield that wasn't
(08:00):
controlled by AI yet, but we are merely a few
key strokes and software from that day, where it's a
similar transition from the cavalry to the tank that changed
in nature warfare a century ago. And China's got a
big jump on US tony in that category, and a
lot of that has been by their aggressive espionage to
(08:22):
include penedrating and stealing our technology and databases that can
be used against US.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I got to switch just because we got a couple
of minutes. I want to go to the Mid East
right now. We have a peace plan there in Goza.
We'll see how long that holds. But what about the
Mideast at large, including Syria, ED, what are your thoughts
about what's going on there?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Well, I wouldn't declare victory there just yet. I wouldn't
be optimistic. I would be very guarded. I would say
that we have a great opportunity based on what israel
strategy has been, to dismantle the Iranian regime construct of
surrogates throughout the Mid East, to reset the Mid East
under this administration, again, based on what Israel's already accomplished.
(09:09):
So what we should be watching for is that, similar
to how Libya was denied their nuclear weapons program and
capabilities years back, a similar approach to remove that from
our rand. Because now the time is right to do that.
You see that Russia has been also relegated to a
(09:30):
lesser role there to include in Syria and throughout the
Mid East. So we have a great opportunity to reset
the Mid East, Tony.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Does that mean we're going to see troops on the
ground in Syria or more troops.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Well, that remains to be seen. Ideally, we would work
through our partner nations and surgates and have the deterrence
ability to defeat them without putting US troops. So remember
we've had US troops on there continually, Special Operations troops
for years now conducting missions against that hat threat target,
the hot threats threat stream to include isis K. Remember
(10:06):
there were strikes right before the election, then subsequent two
against isis K targets over there. So we have got
to continue to fight them there instead of here.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Going a little overtime. But I want to take this
minute to ask you this. There is belief and then
there's truth that sometimes they're right, but not always. And
a lot of people didn't believe that these balloons that
were going over were actually Chinese manipulated the balloons, and
we've discovered that they really were those kinds of things.
And then there's the cartel in Mexico, and it's not
(10:40):
just been you know, migrants or immigrants, et cetera, those
people that want to become you know, Americans, those kinds
of things. There really has been some openings we've heard
from anywhere from Iranian proxies so to speak, coming through
and China, maybe even Russia.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Can you found on that, oh, without a doubt that
the cartels are a clear and present danger to the
US national security. They're, for all intents and purposes, surrogates
of our adversaries, namely China, who provides them the precursors
for fentanyl, which is just an unconventional operation to poison
our nation. So instead of poisoning the water source of
the food source, they're doing it in an oblique manner
(11:21):
with respect to the drugs that they're running in here.
And then additionally they're doing the human trafficking, and again
that's expediting the one with over three hundred folks that
we know about on the terrorist watch list into the US.
Remember Tony, back to that Russian we caught earlier that
I mentioned, the member of the Wagner group, And we
don't catch the smart ones they're getting in here. So
(11:42):
the cartails are arguably conducting unconventional warfare operation as surrogance
of our adversaries, threatening our national security right here in
the US, all the way to Kentucky and Russell Coleman's
put up a great fight against the drugs here coming
into the state. But they operate as criminal organization and
paramilitary entities. So SPINK almost like a Hamas or his
(12:03):
balla organization with that kind of firepower, organization, deep resources,
global supply chains. And they have no for lack of
better term, they do not abide by the Geneva Convention
or other rules would apply to folks in normal combat operations.
They are ruthless.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
So what do we what are we saying? Are we
laying down the law with Mexico on this kind of thing?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Well, I would, I would hope we would adopt the
same strategy we did against the fark. You might remember
years back we fought the farc in Colombia narco traffickers
in Colombian partnership with the Colombians, with a whole US
government approach largely led by US special operations in the
Black Ops world and our government agency partners, and we
defeated the Park. We need to have the same type
approach in a serious manner working with the Mexican government
(12:54):
against the cartels. Now, when the Mexican government tried to
fight them a few years back, it was a very
bloody engagement and you saw almost a standoff occurred where
they sort of went back to their corners. But at
this juncture, the time is right to address this because
they are getting rich and more powerful, and they really
(13:15):
risk making you know, they could make Mexico a failed
state right on our southern board.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Oh, I think it's close. I think it's been close
for two decades. Appreciate your time. Ed, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Okay, Tony, thank you all right.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Ed Galran joining us here, military analyst and an extraordinary
here on news radio A forty W channels. More coming up.
Tell the Hour, John Shannon has your news
Good morning. I'm Tony Cruz. Captain ed Galleryan is a
(00:03):
highly combat decorated career senior Navy Seal officer and an
Army ranger two of the most grueling special operation training
programs in the world. He's joining us this morning. The
accolades I have for you, Ed. I could go on,
but we wouldn't have a show together. I appreciate your time,
Captain d How are you.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Good morning, Tony, cold out here as we navigate the
Polar Express on the farm. But thank you for that introduction,
and we'll jump right in on some significant developments in
twenty twenty four if you if you have time.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, let's let's look back. And because the seeing seeing
the past is really seeing the future in so many cases,
right so, and.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
That's right on, and many times it's not what's right
in front of us, it's what's behind that. So let's
talk about the evolution of drone warfare, because we're watching
that closely. A little known fact Tony is ISIS was
among the first groups to weaponiz a small, consumer off
the shelf quad copter drones, using them to conduct recon
and turning into bombers. No kidding against US forces in
Iraq as far back as twenty seventeen. As you might guess,
(01:08):
they were disruptive the US military operations, caused casualties and delays,
and there were as many as a dozen of them
flying at one time, given the enemy a tactical advantage
because we had difficulty detecting and defending them. Now, as
a reminder, US air defenses are designed to detect and
defend against conventional threats like aircraft crews, missiles, large fast
(01:29):
moving flying items of all sorts, rotary ring, fixed wing,
and such. So there is a steam in a gap
that the enemy was exploiting. And the proliferation and use
of these drones that are too numerous, too small, and
too low to detect and defeat are a significant challenge
for our nation, as we've seen recently here in the US.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Well, let's talk about what have we seen in the US,
because we haven't been hearing anything about that in particularly
in New Jersey and parts of New York. Can even
and write Patterson Air Force Base, who do we know
anything about these drones that were flying over those locations?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
No, but the new administration has stated that they released
information about that. As we talked about it a few
weeks back. Now, can I talk a bit more about
what's going on over in Ukraine with these drones?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Please do.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Ukraine is a test bed. We now have drone dogfight
warfare going on over there. We're in a whole nother
chapter now. The biggest limitation of a drone is, of course,
the skill of the operator, Tony, when that becomes replaced
by artificial intelligence, I want you to think flying terminators
that can do reconnaissance or attack or even dog fighting.
(02:41):
Think of the ability that offers an adversary. I almost
terminator flying robots. So whoever gains that drone superiority has
a massive advantage. Russia might be slightly behind Ukraine, who's
been forced to be creative and innovative to a shortfall
in manpowered and combat capability in comparison to the Russians,
(03:03):
but Russia is still a first world military. And what
you really got to watch is China, the largest producer
of US small drones, who was watching and testing how
to put their advantages to use against US and others. Tony,
let me add something else. Did you hear that reports
are just a few weeks back, a Russian member of
the Wagner group. Now remember that's the Russian mercenary army, right,
(03:27):
what fought at the border with two passports? Four thousand
dollars in US money? And what do you think was
in his backpack? A small drone?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Wow, I had not heard that report. I want to
keep it in Ukraine for a second. And that is
what we've seen with North Korean Russia. I don't know
that we've brought this up. You and I've talked about
it privately, But what are the North Koreans learning in battle?
Because they haven't been in a war per se, you
know since first sixty years?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, great points seventy five, actually since Foreign Peninsula memory.
It's not ended, it's it is under an armistice, which
is a fancy word for a cease fire. There's no
peace treaty. So Russia's reliance under North Korean troops is
not for a significant change on the battlefield. Russians lose
the North of thirty thousand troops a month. Wow, reports
are they brought in about ten thousand North Koreas. The
(04:22):
real to your point, Tony, the real strategic concern from
a professional military community and intelligence officers would be the
North Koreans are gaining invaluable combat experience and confidence for
the first time in nearly seventy five years. Now. Overlay
that that both the North Koreans and Russians have signed
a mutual support treaty for the first time a few
(04:45):
months back. That should be a great concern on the
Korean Peninsula and Japan, because North Korea has valued to
take back South Korea, and the Russians still claim some
of the Japanese outer islands, and there's been an ongoing
dispute about those that hadn't been the news much, but
those could be grounds for both Russia and North Korea
to make moves there in North Korea and in the
(05:08):
northern waters they're off Japan.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Wow, let's take a time out. We're with Ed galerin
former Well, he's Navy seal officer. We'll talk to him
more here in just a moment on news radio a
Fort WHLS. Let's get some traffic with Bobby Ellis and
whether I've got the METS forecast coming up. Ed Galeran,
if you've heard of Galran Farms in Shelby County, Well,
sometimes we call him farmer Ed, sometime we call him
(05:33):
Seal Commodore. He earned that rank and also four bronze
stars for leadership and courage, and also the Presidential Unit
citations as well. That's equivalent to a Navy Cross or
his unit's extraordinary heroism. And appreciate your time. Ed all right,
twenty twenty five, today President Trump becomes President Trump again.
(05:54):
If you will, what are you expecting militarily speaking and
otherwise from a geopolitical level.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Here, buckle up, We're going to see a reset geomilitary
politically as our adversaries. Remember Chinese, China, Russia, North Korea
and Iran are basically the four horsemen of apocalypse for
all tests and purposes right now, and it's the most
vulnerable time since pre World War Two. We've got some
catching up to do with respect to US power around
(06:22):
the world. That's diplomatic, informational, military, and economic. But what
I want to jump in on, Tony, is something that
could change the nature of warfare to watch for. Okay,
there was a milestone in Ukraine at the Battle of Lapitski.
Now it's a little known battle, but essentially what happened,
for the first time ever you had robot warfare. You
had the Ukrainians field what would be called ground drones
(06:43):
aerial drones to attack Russian forces. So I want you
to think almost a computer gain type scenario where you
have those fielded without humans in the actual either the
drones or the ground vehicles. And that's a whole new
chapter of warfare. So think folks with headset goggles, computer
(07:04):
gained type activities controlling the fight on the ground. And
they were doing a whole series of types of missions
that would normally be done by you know, armed troops,
but it was done by basically robots. So what do
you think of that, Tony?
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I think that I'm in a Will Smith movie when
I hear those kinds of things, and I'm wondering, you know,
we're turning into castl of society. We are we just
how are we using these kinds of things as it
comes to people or will we have boots on the
ground here in thirty years or twenty years.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
That's a great question that's going to largely depend on
who wins the artificial intelligence race, which is arguably the
Manhattan Project that you were called the race to develop
the atomic bomb. It's the Manhattan Project of our era.
Whoever wins that race will likely have dominance in the world.
So back to that fight on the battlefield that wasn't
(08:00):
controlled by AI yet, but we are merely a few
key strokes and software from that day, where it's a
similar transition from the cavalry to the tank that changed
in nature warfare a century ago. And China's got a
big jump on US tony in that category, and a
lot of that has been by their aggressive espionage to
(08:22):
include penedrating and stealing our technology and databases that can
be used against US.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I got to switch just because we got a couple
of minutes. I want to go to the Mid East
right now. We have a peace plan there in Goza.
We'll see how long that holds. But what about the
Mideast at large, including Syria, ED, what are your thoughts
about what's going on there?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Well, I wouldn't declare victory there just yet. I wouldn't
be optimistic. I would be very guarded. I would say
that we have a great opportunity based on what israel
strategy has been, to dismantle the Iranian regime construct of
surrogates throughout the Mid East, to reset the Mid East
under this administration, again, based on what Israel's already accomplished.
(09:09):
So what we should be watching for is that, similar
to how Libya was denied their nuclear weapons program and
capabilities years back, a similar approach to remove that from
our rand. Because now the time is right to do that.
You see that Russia has been also relegated to a
(09:30):
lesser role there to include in Syria and throughout the
Mid East. So we have a great opportunity to reset
the Mid East, Tony.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Does that mean we're going to see troops on the
ground in Syria or more troops.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Well, that remains to be seen. Ideally, we would work
through our partner nations and surgates and have the deterrence
ability to defeat them without putting US troops. So remember
we've had US troops on there continually, Special Operations troops
for years now conducting missions against that hat threat target,
the hot threats threat stream to include isis K. Remember
(10:06):
there were strikes right before the election, then subsequent two
against isis K targets over there. So we have got
to continue to fight them there instead of here.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Going a little overtime. But I want to take this
minute to ask you this. There is belief and then
there's truth that sometimes they're right, but not always. And
a lot of people didn't believe that these balloons that
were going over were actually Chinese manipulated the balloons, and
we've discovered that they really were those kinds of things.
And then there's the cartel in Mexico, and it's not
(10:40):
just been you know, migrants or immigrants, et cetera, those
people that want to become you know, Americans, those kinds
of things. There really has been some openings we've heard
from anywhere from Iranian proxies so to speak, coming through
and China, maybe even Russia.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Can you found on that, oh, without a doubt that
the cartels are a clear and present danger to the
US national security. They're, for all intents and purposes, surrogates
of our adversaries, namely China, who provides them the precursors
for fentanyl, which is just an unconventional operation to poison
our nation. So instead of poisoning the water source of
the food source, they're doing it in an oblique manner
(11:21):
with respect to the drugs that they're running in here.
And then additionally they're doing the human trafficking, and again
that's expediting the one with over three hundred folks that
we know about on the terrorist watch list into the US.
Remember Tony, back to that Russian we caught earlier that
I mentioned, the member of the Wagner group, And we
don't catch the smart ones they're getting in here. So
(11:42):
the cartails are arguably conducting unconventional warfare operation as surrogance
of our adversaries, threatening our national security right here in
the US, all the way to Kentucky and Russell Coleman's
put up a great fight against the drugs here coming
into the state. But they operate as criminal organization and
paramilitary entities. So SPINK almost like a Hamas or his
(12:03):
balla organization with that kind of firepower, organization, deep resources,
global supply chains. And they have no for lack of
better term, they do not abide by the Geneva Convention
or other rules would apply to folks in normal combat operations.
They are ruthless.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
So what do we what are we saying? Are we
laying down the law with Mexico on this kind of thing?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Well, I would, I would hope we would adopt the
same strategy we did against the fark. You might remember
years back we fought the farc in Colombia narco traffickers
in Colombian partnership with the Colombians, with a whole US
government approach largely led by US special operations in the
Black Ops world and our government agency partners, and we
defeated the Park. We need to have the same type
approach in a serious manner working with the Mexican government
(12:54):
against the cartels. Now, when the Mexican government tried to
fight them a few years back, it was a very
bloody engagement and you saw almost a standoff occurred where
they sort of went back to their corners. But at
this juncture, the time is right to address this because
they are getting rich and more powerful, and they really
(13:15):
risk making you know, they could make Mexico a failed
state right on our southern board.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Oh, I think it's close. I think it's been close
for two decades. Appreciate your time. Ed, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Okay, Tony, thank you all right.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Ed Galran joining us here, military analyst and an extraordinary
here on news radio A forty W channels. More coming up.
Tell the Hour, John Shannon has your news
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