July 21, 2023 • 27 mins
Omar Vizquel is the personification of defense at shortstop in MLB history, an 11-time Gold Glove winner, he set the standard for excellence. Part of the glory days of the mid-1990s Cleveland Indians, Omar started his career with the Seattle Mariners in 1989, when he retired he was the last player left in any North American sports league who appeared in a game in the 1980s. Vizquel will be honoring his fellow Venezuelan Miguel Cabrera in Miami soon. Omar regales us with stories about his career, the changes to the game including the pitch clock and analytics, and much more. You can follow him on Twitter @VizquelOmar13. Follow Danny G Radio on Twitter @DannyGradio, Follow Big Ben on Twitter @BenMaller, and listen to the original "Ben Maller Show," Monday-Friday on 450+ terrestrial Fox Sports Radio affiliates, iHeart stream, and SiriusXM Radio channel 83, 2a-6a ET, 11p-3a PT!
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Welcome into the Audio Dojo and an exciting fifth Hour
with Ben Mahler and Danny g Radio. A show that
I have been looking forward to providing you. We talked
about it on the Overnight Show this week, and here
it is. You're gonna hear the full unedited version of
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a conversation we're gonna have here in a few minutes
with oh Mar this scale. I. I love having these
baseball guys on the podcast. We've had a few of
them on over the years, but we can now add
the name of Omarvis Skelf. You're not familiar, you should
know who this guy is if you're a baseball fan.
But one of the finest defensive shortstops that I've ever
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seen in my lifetime and in baseball history, and he
retired over a decade ago. Twenty twelve was his last season,
but the scale played twenty four years. He spanned four
decades in Major League Baseball. Came up in nineteen eighty nine,
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and his name is constantly brought up in the Hall
of Fame conversation. There's this great debate because of his
defensive prowess whether she'd be in the Hall of Fame
or not. We'll get into that at some point of
the Pride of Venezuela. He retired as the all time
hits king from Venezuela. He's been passed since then by
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Miguel Cabrera. And he played for the Mariners the Cleveland Indians,
the team that he is most known for, but he
also at the end of his career played for the Giants,
the Texas Rangers, the White Sox, and the Blue Jays.
But he won eleven Gold Gloves, had nine consecutive for
nine consecutive years. This guy was the top defensive shortstop
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and it wasn't even up for debate from nineteen ninety
three to twenty oh one. In fact, now that we
can look back at the career of Omarvis Scale, his
feeling percentage is tied for the highest all time. I mean,
I'll give you the guy's whole resume here. It's very impressive.
And he's also the all time leader in double plays
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turned as a shortstop. And he tied Cal Ripkens American
League record for the most consecutive games without an error,
and he did that back in the late nineties early
two thousands. There and just all kinds of accolades for
a shortstop. In fact, I was re that Omar has
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the third most hits all time among shortstops. He's number
three behind who how about Derek Jeter and Honus Wagner,
who most people these days rightfully so only know as
a as a baseball card. But there's something else I wanted.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
To bring up.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
We'll get into this with Omar at some point when
he joins us here in a minute, that Omarvis SkELL
is the modern era leader in sacrifice hits and sacrifice flies.
If you combine sacrifice hits and sacrifice flies, something that
is not that big a part of the game these
days as much as it was back when he played,
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but three hundred and fifty combine sacrifice hits and sacrifice
flies from Omarvis Skeal. And to give you an idea,
I was reading some of the nerd websites, and they
keep track of everything. There is no other player in
the modern era of baseball that has reached three hundred.
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He's at three point fifty. The next highest. To give
you an idea, who's close is the Wizard of Oz
Ozzy Smith. They went back and they tracked Ozzie Smith's
career with the Cardinals and the Padres and all that
two hundred and seventy seven sacrifice flies and sacrifice hits
combined for Ozzie Smith. But Omarvus Scale you talk about
unbreakable records, the fact that he played so long, and
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the fact that the sacrifice hit is not something that
is regularly part of the game these days. So certainly
that is a record that will likely not be broken
in my lifetime, and the way the game is going
is going to be many many generations before anyone even
sniffs that record. Mentioned all the gold gloves, he also
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winning eleven gold gloves.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
He was the.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Oldest shortstop ever to win a gold Glove. I mean,
there's all kinds He's got all kinds of records. If
you're a baseball fan, which I assume you're listening to
this podcast, you are. You dig into some of the
numbers for the player known as Little Low and you're like, Wow,
Like this guy, his name's on all these lists and
accomplishments and amazing. The thing that I can't get over though,
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and you think about baseball players, most of them plast
a couple of years in the big leagues.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
If they're lucky, get a cup of coffee.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Maybe they can get vested into the pension plane in
baseball if they play a certain number of years and
all that, But to go as long as Visculle did
here at shortstop to break the record. He was the
oldest player in Major league history to take the field
as a shortstop.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
He broke a.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Record that had been around for almost one hundred years
when he did that at the end of his career
with the Blue Jays in twenty twelve. Just an amazing,
amazing accomplishment during his career. And I have a chance
to catch up with him, so Olmarvus Scale. He was
the last active player, we said this, the last active
player in any of the major North American professional sports leagues.
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That played in the nineteen eighties. He was the last one.
We now welcome in to the fifth Hour with Ben
Maller and Danny g the man. We have just been
buttering up here the shortstop O Marvis Scales, So let's
start with this, Omar. What was the secret to that amazing,
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amazing longevity.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Well, I think it was a hard eddication to stay
in the gym and try to prove yourself every year
that you're fighting against yourself to get in the best
condition that you can get and make sure that you
can play one hundred and sixty two games. That was
my ultimate goal. Obviously, the manager have all the ideas.
They want to give you days off in between, they
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want to rest you in between, and obviously when you're struggling,
they always want to give you a day off so
you refresh, that you think about the things that you're
doing wrong and all that. So, but for me, it
was more like a pride to play for a long time.
I take pride of that because I was in the
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gym all the time. I like to run, I still
like to do a lot of exercises, and that was
the whole key about it.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Now, when you started playing, did you have an idea
in your head, how long you thought this would last?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Because most major league careers, as you know, they.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Don't last that long. Did you have an idea You're
going to play a while? Did this thing just keep
you every year? You kept going and going because most
people only last a few years in the big pause.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
What was your plan when you started with the Mariners.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Well, actually, you don't have a plan on how long
you can play. I was really struggling in the beginning
of my career, and I was afraid that I was
going to be sent down to Triple A. So that's
what I took time for my preparation and everything because
I wasn't quite sure that I wasn't going to stay
in the big league for too long. I was a
short guy, I didn't have power. I started learning. I
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started switch hitting on my last year or my minor
league career, so when I make it to the big league,
I was only switch hitting for a year. And that
was a really really big step that I did in
order for me to learn how to hit left handed
and to get used to all the pitching in the
big league. He was pretty tough. It was a tough
process for me.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Now when you talked about how you wanted to play
every day and you prided yourself on that.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
We are in the era now omar in all of.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Sports, maybe not so much in baseball, but in football,
in basketball, some of the other sports where load management
is where you know players are supposed to rest a
certain amount of time. What do you think about the
new wave in sports with not playing every game, taking
days off, getting extra rest.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Compared to how you played back in your day.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Yeah, I think you know. The evolution on every sport,
it has shown that if you take a rest, maybe
you can perform in a higher level sometime when they
need you down the road in the playoff, or in
the worst series, or or late during the season. So
the numbers are showing that, and I think that's that's
why a lot of front offices and managers and coaches
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are trying to give your players a rest when they
think that you're not performing one hundred percent. So they
they raise your mind, they raise your body, and the
next time that you come into the field, I think
that you're more prepared to take the challenge and to
go after everything that you have to go.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
So this year they changed a lot and This is
a dramatic change in Major League Baseball with the pitch
clock coming in here.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Uh, what do you what do you think.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Of that omar You play your entire career obviously without it,
it's brand new. What do you think about a clock
being in baseball?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Well, I think it's affecting a lot of pitchers because
they're not used to that kind of a quick, quick release.
Your body is not used to it. That you used
to take a long time in between pitches to think
what is the next pitch that you're gonna throw and
all that. But I think that you have really prepare
your conditioning because it's a tough pace. It's very fast.
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The only good benefit and things that I see is
that you get more focused and you stay focused in
a longer period of time. The same with the hitting.
I didn't like when pictures take a long time because
it made me think too much. I was one of
those hitters that I like to get into a rhythm
and now as the quickest that they get into the mound,
the better for me. And it works the same when
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you play the defense. In the defensive side, you like
the pictures that work quick, that work fast, and that
also gets you going and get your rhythm going.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Was there any picture back, I mean, you played a
long time. Was there anyone in particular that took forever
on the mound that you remember that you were hearing
the you know, in the in the batter's box there
and it just kept going on and on the step
off the mound.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
And yeah, there is.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
There were a lot of guys that you know, like
to take the time and make sure that they get
it right. Usually big guys, heavy guys, They like to
pace itself a little bit, to stay longer in the mound.
But you know, out of the top of my head,
I can't recall anybody right now.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
And the clock is here.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Also, this has been the way for like ten fifteen
years in baseball now. But analytics the debate which continues.
Is it analytics which is just going by the raw
numbers like how you bat versus certain situations versus the
feel of the game, and when you played most of
your career. I guess near the end of it they
switched over to analytics somewhere. But are you more of
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a feel of a game guy or do you side
with the analytics side in baseball?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Well, I guess like, if you want to stay in
the game, you have to go with the analytics side
and combine it with all the intuition that you have
for the game. I think that can be the biggest skei.
I hear talking managers about how much the analytics and
the numbers have influenced their decision to make later on
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the game. And the thing is the percentage is the
percentage is showing that you got more than seventy percent
that is going to be right, then you can use that,
but you also have to look at the game, look
at your players, know your players, and use the intuition
when you're smelling something that is going against the number.
So I think that's the best way to describe it.
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Right now. A lot of people is going crazy because
of the numbers. There has been managers getting into trouble
because of the number. The players don't like it too
much because they think that they deserve their respect. But
the players don't take a look at the numbers too much.
They just want to go on the field and perform
and they know the things that they have to do,
and sometimes the numbers doesn't show it anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, you know it is. It's gonna be a balance.
I think right a little bit of this, a little
bit that you can't you can be all in one direction. Now,
as far as this season in baseball, the talk right now,
we are not that far away from the trade that line.
And Shohei Otani of the Angels has been remarkable on
the mound and at the plate is looking like he's
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gonna win the American League MVP again. He's also going
to be a free agent at the end of the season. Omar,
how much you think he's gonna get in a contract
next season because he cannot only obviously pitch, but hit
a bunch of home runs.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
But where do you think he ends up and how
much do you think he's gonna get?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Well, you know that this is one of the most
exciting players that we have in the last fifty years,
not only because he can hit the ball for power
that he can hit for average, he can also throw
the ball and have low numbers and ear rays and
all the numbers that you can put in there. So
I think it's going to break the bank.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Man.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Otani's gonna be one of those five hundred million dollar players,
and he's going to be the first one to reach
that amount, and there is no doubt that he's going
to be few teams interesting on that. The fact that
he has the Asian market of all the uh everybody
love him out there and and all the international UH things.
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News that he can bring into a team's gonna be amazing.
So I can't wait to see the negotiations and how
many teams are going to jump into that.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
How come you think no one has really been allowed
to do that like Otani? Like when you were playing,
there were probably guys you played with it could have
tried pitching and hitting and whatnot. What how come they
weren't allowed to do it for so long? What do
you think the mindset was behind that when you were playing?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Well?
Speaker 4 (14:36):
I think players concentrate on play only one position, and
they don't they don't want to deal with the other side.
It takes a law, it takes away a lot from
your body. And I think that's why i'm the fact
that that you can find many athletes that can do
this kind of thing. It's like the on stand, there's
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a guy like Bo Jackson that can play two sports.
I mean this, guys have an amazing abilities. They come
once in a lifetime and we are We have to
be lucky to watch this guy, because I don't remember
the last time that you can see a baseball player
that can pitch the way he does, and they can
hit the way he does and even run. I mean,
this guy does it all.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, No, he's absolutely amazing.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
We're hanging out talking with Omarvis Scale here joining us
on the fifth hour, and so Omar, you played for
a bunch of teams twenty four seasons, but you're most
associated with the Cleveland Indians and had with part of
those great teams in the nineties. Now they are called
the Guardians. What was your what were your thought on
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the name change there in Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Yeah, it was a little sentimental thing going through my
mind because obviously I played the good years there when
the Indians were called and all the logos and all
the uniforms and hats and pictures that we have with
the other logo was one of the most exciting, exciting
things that I remember. Now changing the name, I guess
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there was a little a little trouble with with the
ownership and the name, and you know, there's one of
the things that you can't really say much about it.
You don't have any any saying on on that, but
I obviously keep following the team. That team give me
a lot of satisfaction in my life. I have one
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of my best years there with with that organization. There
is still a lot of friends that are tied up
to the to the Guardians, and I always rooting for them.
I mean, there's one of the teams that I always
love watching.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And you're in there Hall of Fame? Is that right?
Speaker 3 (16:42):
You're in there the franchise Hall of Fame? What was
that like getting inducted into that amazing?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Amazing you know, having that walk from centerfield that's what
they have, the little hole there with the players that
they put into the Hall of Fame, and then walking
into the mound and then having the opportunity to talk
to the fans and saying some words. It was one
of the most amazing things that happened in baseball for me.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Now, I remember when you were playing one of your
your nicknas, you were known for the sacrifice part of
your game. I think one story is called you the
Sultan of the Sacrifice. I think you have like the
most sacrifices of anybody in the modern era of baseball.
But over when you watch the game. It's very rare
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that you will see someone do what you were so
good at. What do you think it's going to take
to get that back more into the game of baseball
more regularly part of the game. Something you were so
good at a.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Lot of a lot of things. I going back and
trying to use the bond as one of the way
to score some runs. You know, I take a lot
of pride on that because I was really good at bonding.
I think that I one of the best bonners in
my era, and that probably sacrificed a lot of hits
for me. I don't think that if I bond this
so many times, I would have had three thousand hits
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in the mid legs. So a lot of people told
me that, But you know, just the way it goes.
I was the team player, and I wanted the team
to win, and I sacrificed myself so the other guys
can bring their runs in. So, you know, that was
the way that the game was playing those years.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Now, let's go back to those those Cleveland Indians teams.
There you had several dominant teams. You guys were amazing
in that period of awesome offense. You were the rocket shortstop,
you had good pitching. What do you what do you
think the thing was that that caused those issues in
the World Series. I was actually at the nineteen ninety
seven World Series, Omar, I was covering it when you
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guys played the Marlins and that crazy Game.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Seven and all that.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
But what do you what do you think it was
about that that team that you just you got right
to the edge, which you couldn't get past the finish line.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Well, that's just the way baseball is. You know, Sometime
you have the team, sometimes you don't have the team.
It's just a matter of what team is playing better
at that particular time. I think that we played really good.
We went into the Game seven, but we couldn't close
the door. But you know, that's just baseball. We have
an amazing team balance everywhere. We have pitching, we have closers,
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we have relievers, power average, we have jose about a
little bit of everything. The Josah, you know, the Models
play better baseball on that on that year, and then
we got beat by the Braves on ninety five where
they have smalld gloving and uh maddox. Yeah, so you
know those are those were the masters of pitching on
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the nineties and we run into that trouble there, but
you know, so excited that we have the opportunity to
be there and to share that that experience with your
family and with the rest of your teammates.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Now, one are the other stories going on right now
is the story out of Oakland and the Athletics are
starting the process to leave Oakland. Do you have any memories.
Do you have any memories of playing games? I mean,
the As had some good teams when you were you
were playing.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I got the best memory. My first open when I
make it to the big league was in Oakland. So
that is in the coliseum. That was the first baseball
field that I see when I came up to the
big leagues in eighty nine. That was April third, nineteen
eighty nine. You can look it up and I have
to face guys like Dave Stewart, Stearne, Davis, Dennis Eckersley,
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and obviously they have the power batch guy we can
sec on my wire day, Parker Ricky Henderson. That was
the team that everybody liked to talk about, and the
fact that they put fifty thousand people on those seats
was amazing. I know, that Oakland was wild. That was
crazy for baseball. The things that you see in Oakland
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you didn't see anyone else and it was one of
the best memories for me playing in the coliseum. It's
just too bad that they couldn't work it out. Obviously,
the ownership. I don't know if they're showing in nothings
to stay in Oakland. But it's kind of tough for
me because it was the first baseball field that I
play when I came up.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
And how do you think Vegas is gonna do if
this actually happens though? I mean, I would think guys
coming into Vegas on the road that might be a
big home field advantage for the for the athletics there,
because you go to Vegas on a road trip there.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
You how do you think that's gonna work out?
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Well, I don't know. I'm sure everything is done here
by numbers analytics, just like in baseball. So if they
have the numbers and they see then go work it out.
Go ahead. I think it's gonna be a tough situation
for them. There is a lot of things to do
in Vegas. Everybody knows what Vegas is famous for, and
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I hope that they can back up baseball as well
as they has been backing up the Triple A team
they have right now. I did play there in that
ballpark also, and I think people respond. They have good crowds,
and I hope they can have a good success there.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, now let's go.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
You want a bunch of gold gloves when you you're
playing all with the Indians, all these different teams here.
Is there anyone you watch today in baseball? I think
of you and some of those guys before you as
maybe unbiased you. I think those guys were better. You
were better than some of the guys today. Who's the
top defensive shortstop in today's game? Is there anyone that
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pops into your head here that you watch that kind
of reminds you of the guys that you play with
and yourself.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Well, I really love watching the guy from Detroit have
it bias. I think he makes on an amazing place
when he played the position. He can play everything around
the infield, but he makes an amazing place in there.
I like Lindor. Also with the Mets, there is a
guy that came from Cleveland, and I also watch him
for a lot of games. Tria Turner is a great
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short stop. It's just a pleasure to watch that guy
taking round balls, playing the game the right way. And
I think the other guy is the guy from Pittsburgh.
I forgot his name right now, but he seems to
be a pretty good short stop. And wow, there is
a lot of talent in the Big League nowadays. Every
time you watch a game, you see a great prospect
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that came up that you didn't have any idea they can,
no tools they have. But really enjoying watching the game nowadays.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, Now, who taught you? Did you teach yourself how
to play short stuff that well?
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Or did Was it a coach? Was it somebody another player?
How did you learn to be so smooth at shortstop
when you were playing?
Speaker 4 (23:27):
I think it was a combination. You know. My dad
was a big fan of the game. Every time that
I was playing in little league games, he kind of
correct me things that he see that I was doing wrong.
And also the coaches that I have when my little
league teams were pretty good. I like to listen a lot,
I like to take a lot of advices, and I
think that's when I get to single a double A.
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I got a lot of success on fielding the ball
making the plays. I felt very confident about all the
plays that I was making and what That's what it
was the key for me.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Now I understand, Omar, you're going to be in Miami
coming up here soon, you know, next week. I believe
it is to honor Miguel Cabrera, who you obviously know
very well.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Tell me, tell me about that that event.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
And yeah, you're gonna be at a Marlins game there
with the Tigers, and tell me about that.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Yeah, it's coming off. In July twenty ninth, there is
a retirement party or a day for all the Venezuelan
people that live in the Miami area. And obviously it's
gonna be in honor of Miguel Cabrera, one of the
best baseball players that has been from my conte from Venezuela.
And I think everybody should go there and honor this
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guy because it's the career that he has. I don't
think that you can see that very often. This guy
is a master with the bat. He's a Triple Crown winner,
and he was really the guy that everybody follow and
when still following, and these young guys like to talk
about great hitters and always Megeret Carbrea came up, so
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it is an honor for me to be there and
obviously inviting all my fellow teammates and friends to go
and support Miguel on that day.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
What is it like, Omar, when you go back to
Venezuela there with you the career you had and they
love baseball and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
They roll out the red carpet when you go back there.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
What's what's it like? It's crazy, man, It's crazy. You
can't even go to the bathroom because they take it
as an excuse and they follow you around and they
want a picture with you anywhere, and you know, it's
just part of part of the game. And I love
it because they recognize you all the time and they
love talking about baseball. It is an amazing man, It's
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a great place to be.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
You're like a rock star there, right, I mean everyone
loves you. It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Yeah, we are. We are the Mick Jagger in the street.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Exactly exactly all right, So why don't we get out
on this the hall of fame? You had, longevity, defense,
the sacrifice. Can you make a pitch to anyone that
might hear this, who's a QUASEI? Hall of Fame voter, there,
can you make your pitch for the Baseball Hall of Fame?
Why should you be in?
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Well, I don't know. I don't know if I can
make a pitch, but I tell you this, I played
the game with a lot of respect. I played the
game for a long time because of a reason. I
was a good teammates to everybody. I like to spread
the words or good baseball, how to play the game
the right way. And I think that I have enough
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numbers to compete with the guys that are there right now.
Obviously it's not up to me anymore. I did all
everything that I could, and I hope the voters can
take a look at the numbers and say, Wow, this
guy really have a great career. I think he deserved
to be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
But you're in the Cleveland Indian slash Guardians Hall of Fame,
are you? You've got to be in some other I mean,
he probably picked up a bunch of awards, right, So
it's the Baseball Hall of Fame is great, But you've
picked up a number of honors.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Right, Omar, Yeah, But I think the Hall of Fame
of Baseball in Cooperstown is a cream of the cream.
That's where all the best players are. And I think
that you know, when you play the game of baseball,
you want to be on the top. You want to
be with the best, and I think it is a
great place to be. And I have the opportunity. I'm
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still there and I think I, of course I want
to be there absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Well, hopefully hopefully you'll get it.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
We thank you every time anything else you want to
promote Omar, anything got coming up here people should know about.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Well, we talk a little bit about everything. So thank
you for the opportunity. We're going to be the twenty ninth,
July twenty ninth in the Marlins Park in Miami, and
thank you for talking to me, and hopefully we can
speak some more later on.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Absolutely, thank you, Omar. Having a wonderful day.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Thanks Omar, Thank you sir very much.
Kabbooms.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
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Welcome into the Audio Dojo and an exciting fifth Hour
with Ben Mahler and Danny g Radio. A show that
I have been looking forward to providing you. We talked
about it on the Overnight Show this week, and here
it is. You're gonna hear the full unedited version of
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a conversation we're gonna have here in a few minutes
with oh Mar this scale. I. I love having these
baseball guys on the podcast. We've had a few of
them on over the years, but we can now add
the name of Omarvis Skelf. You're not familiar, you should
know who this guy is if you're a baseball fan.
But one of the finest defensive shortstops that I've ever
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seen in my lifetime and in baseball history, and he
retired over a decade ago. Twenty twelve was his last season,
but the scale played twenty four years. He spanned four
decades in Major League Baseball. Came up in nineteen eighty nine,
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and his name is constantly brought up in the Hall
of Fame conversation. There's this great debate because of his
defensive prowess whether she'd be in the Hall of Fame
or not. We'll get into that at some point of
the Pride of Venezuela. He retired as the all time
hits king from Venezuela. He's been passed since then by
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Miguel Cabrera. And he played for the Mariners the Cleveland Indians,
the team that he is most known for, but he
also at the end of his career played for the Giants,
the Texas Rangers, the White Sox, and the Blue Jays.
But he won eleven Gold Gloves, had nine consecutive for
nine consecutive years. This guy was the top defensive shortstop
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and it wasn't even up for debate from nineteen ninety
three to twenty oh one. In fact, now that we
can look back at the career of Omarvis Scale, his
feeling percentage is tied for the highest all time. I mean,
I'll give you the guy's whole resume here. It's very impressive.
And he's also the all time leader in double plays
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turned as a shortstop. And he tied Cal Ripkens American
League record for the most consecutive games without an error,
and he did that back in the late nineties early
two thousands. There and just all kinds of accolades for
a shortstop. In fact, I was re that Omar has
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the third most hits all time among shortstops. He's number
three behind who how about Derek Jeter and Honus Wagner,
who most people these days rightfully so only know as
a as a baseball card. But there's something else I wanted.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
To bring up.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
We'll get into this with Omar at some point when
he joins us here in a minute, that Omarvis SkELL
is the modern era leader in sacrifice hits and sacrifice flies.
If you combine sacrifice hits and sacrifice flies, something that
is not that big a part of the game these
days as much as it was back when he played,
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but three hundred and fifty combine sacrifice hits and sacrifice
flies from Omarvis Skeal. And to give you an idea,
I was reading some of the nerd websites, and they
keep track of everything. There is no other player in
the modern era of baseball that has reached three hundred.
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He's at three point fifty. The next highest. To give
you an idea, who's close is the Wizard of Oz
Ozzy Smith. They went back and they tracked Ozzie Smith's
career with the Cardinals and the Padres and all that
two hundred and seventy seven sacrifice flies and sacrifice hits
combined for Ozzie Smith. But Omarvus Scale you talk about
unbreakable records, the fact that he played so long, and
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the fact that the sacrifice hit is not something that
is regularly part of the game these days. So certainly
that is a record that will likely not be broken
in my lifetime, and the way the game is going
is going to be many many generations before anyone even
sniffs that record. Mentioned all the gold gloves, he also
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winning eleven gold gloves.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
He was the.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Oldest shortstop ever to win a gold Glove. I mean,
there's all kinds He's got all kinds of records. If
you're a baseball fan, which I assume you're listening to
this podcast, you are. You dig into some of the
numbers for the player known as Little Low and you're like, Wow,
Like this guy, his name's on all these lists and
accomplishments and amazing. The thing that I can't get over though,
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and you think about baseball players, most of them plast
a couple of years in the big leagues.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
If they're lucky, get a cup of coffee.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Maybe they can get vested into the pension plane in
baseball if they play a certain number of years and
all that, But to go as long as Visculle did
here at shortstop to break the record. He was the
oldest player in Major league history to take the field
as a shortstop.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
He broke a.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Record that had been around for almost one hundred years
when he did that at the end of his career
with the Blue Jays in twenty twelve. Just an amazing,
amazing accomplishment during his career. And I have a chance
to catch up with him, so Olmarvus Scale. He was
the last active player, we said this, the last active
player in any of the major North American professional sports leagues.
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That played in the nineteen eighties. He was the last one.
We now welcome in to the fifth Hour with Ben
Maller and Danny g the man. We have just been
buttering up here the shortstop O Marvis Scales, So let's
start with this, Omar. What was the secret to that amazing,
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amazing longevity.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Well, I think it was a hard eddication to stay
in the gym and try to prove yourself every year
that you're fighting against yourself to get in the best
condition that you can get and make sure that you
can play one hundred and sixty two games. That was
my ultimate goal. Obviously, the manager have all the ideas.
They want to give you days off in between, they
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want to rest you in between, and obviously when you're struggling,
they always want to give you a day off so
you refresh, that you think about the things that you're
doing wrong and all that. So, but for me, it
was more like a pride to play for a long time.
I take pride of that because I was in the
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gym all the time. I like to run, I still
like to do a lot of exercises, and that was
the whole key about it.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Now, when you started playing, did you have an idea
in your head, how long you thought this would last?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Because most major league careers, as you know, they.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Don't last that long. Did you have an idea You're
going to play a while? Did this thing just keep
you every year? You kept going and going because most
people only last a few years in the big pause.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
What was your plan when you started with the Mariners.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Well, actually, you don't have a plan on how long
you can play. I was really struggling in the beginning
of my career, and I was afraid that I was
going to be sent down to Triple A. So that's
what I took time for my preparation and everything because
I wasn't quite sure that I wasn't going to stay
in the big league for too long. I was a
short guy, I didn't have power. I started learning. I
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started switch hitting on my last year or my minor
league career, so when I make it to the big league,
I was only switch hitting for a year. And that
was a really really big step that I did in
order for me to learn how to hit left handed
and to get used to all the pitching in the
big league. He was pretty tough. It was a tough
process for me.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Now when you talked about how you wanted to play
every day and you prided yourself on that.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
We are in the era now omar in all of.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Sports, maybe not so much in baseball, but in football,
in basketball, some of the other sports where load management
is where you know players are supposed to rest a
certain amount of time. What do you think about the
new wave in sports with not playing every game, taking
days off, getting extra rest.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Compared to how you played back in your day.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Yeah, I think you know. The evolution on every sport,
it has shown that if you take a rest, maybe
you can perform in a higher level sometime when they
need you down the road in the playoff, or in
the worst series, or or late during the season. So
the numbers are showing that, and I think that's that's
why a lot of front offices and managers and coaches
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are trying to give your players a rest when they
think that you're not performing one hundred percent. So they
they raise your mind, they raise your body, and the
next time that you come into the field, I think
that you're more prepared to take the challenge and to
go after everything that you have to go.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
So this year they changed a lot and This is
a dramatic change in Major League Baseball with the pitch
clock coming in here.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Uh, what do you what do you think.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Of that omar You play your entire career obviously without it,
it's brand new. What do you think about a clock
being in baseball?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Well, I think it's affecting a lot of pitchers because
they're not used to that kind of a quick, quick release.
Your body is not used to it. That you used
to take a long time in between pitches to think
what is the next pitch that you're gonna throw and
all that. But I think that you have really prepare
your conditioning because it's a tough pace. It's very fast.
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The only good benefit and things that I see is
that you get more focused and you stay focused in
a longer period of time. The same with the hitting.
I didn't like when pictures take a long time because
it made me think too much. I was one of
those hitters that I like to get into a rhythm
and now as the quickest that they get into the mound,
the better for me. And it works the same when
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you play the defense. In the defensive side, you like
the pictures that work quick, that work fast, and that
also gets you going and get your rhythm going.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Was there any picture back, I mean, you played a
long time. Was there anyone in particular that took forever
on the mound that you remember that you were hearing
the you know, in the in the batter's box there
and it just kept going on and on the step
off the mound.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
And yeah, there is.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
There were a lot of guys that you know, like
to take the time and make sure that they get
it right. Usually big guys, heavy guys, They like to
pace itself a little bit, to stay longer in the mound.
But you know, out of the top of my head,
I can't recall anybody right now.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
And the clock is here.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Also, this has been the way for like ten fifteen
years in baseball now. But analytics the debate which continues.
Is it analytics which is just going by the raw
numbers like how you bat versus certain situations versus the
feel of the game, and when you played most of
your career. I guess near the end of it they
switched over to analytics somewhere. But are you more of
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a feel of a game guy or do you side
with the analytics side in baseball?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Well, I guess like, if you want to stay in
the game, you have to go with the analytics side
and combine it with all the intuition that you have
for the game. I think that can be the biggest skei.
I hear talking managers about how much the analytics and
the numbers have influenced their decision to make later on
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the game. And the thing is the percentage is the
percentage is showing that you got more than seventy percent
that is going to be right, then you can use that,
but you also have to look at the game, look
at your players, know your players, and use the intuition
when you're smelling something that is going against the number.
So I think that's the best way to describe it.
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Right now. A lot of people is going crazy because
of the numbers. There has been managers getting into trouble
because of the number. The players don't like it too
much because they think that they deserve their respect. But
the players don't take a look at the numbers too much.
They just want to go on the field and perform
and they know the things that they have to do,
and sometimes the numbers doesn't show it anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, you know it is. It's gonna be a balance.
I think right a little bit of this, a little
bit that you can't you can be all in one direction. Now,
as far as this season in baseball, the talk right now,
we are not that far away from the trade that line.
And Shohei Otani of the Angels has been remarkable on
the mound and at the plate is looking like he's
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gonna win the American League MVP again. He's also going
to be a free agent at the end of the season. Omar,
how much you think he's gonna get in a contract
next season because he cannot only obviously pitch, but hit
a bunch of home runs.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
But where do you think he ends up and how
much do you think he's gonna get?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Well, you know that this is one of the most
exciting players that we have in the last fifty years,
not only because he can hit the ball for power
that he can hit for average, he can also throw
the ball and have low numbers and ear rays and
all the numbers that you can put in there. So
I think it's going to break the bank.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Man.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Otani's gonna be one of those five hundred million dollar players,
and he's going to be the first one to reach
that amount, and there is no doubt that he's going
to be few teams interesting on that. The fact that
he has the Asian market of all the uh everybody
love him out there and and all the international UH things.
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News that he can bring into a team's gonna be amazing.
So I can't wait to see the negotiations and how
many teams are going to jump into that.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
How come you think no one has really been allowed
to do that like Otani? Like when you were playing,
there were probably guys you played with it could have
tried pitching and hitting and whatnot. What how come they
weren't allowed to do it for so long? What do
you think the mindset was behind that when you were playing?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Well?
Speaker 4 (14:36):
I think players concentrate on play only one position, and
they don't they don't want to deal with the other side.
It takes a law, it takes away a lot from
your body. And I think that's why i'm the fact
that that you can find many athletes that can do
this kind of thing. It's like the on stand, there's
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a guy like Bo Jackson that can play two sports.
I mean this, guys have an amazing abilities. They come
once in a lifetime and we are We have to
be lucky to watch this guy, because I don't remember
the last time that you can see a baseball player
that can pitch the way he does, and they can
hit the way he does and even run. I mean,
this guy does it all.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, No, he's absolutely amazing.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
We're hanging out talking with Omarvis Scale here joining us
on the fifth hour, and so Omar, you played for
a bunch of teams twenty four seasons, but you're most
associated with the Cleveland Indians and had with part of
those great teams in the nineties. Now they are called
the Guardians. What was your what were your thought on
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the name change there in Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Yeah, it was a little sentimental thing going through my
mind because obviously I played the good years there when
the Indians were called and all the logos and all
the uniforms and hats and pictures that we have with
the other logo was one of the most exciting, exciting
things that I remember. Now changing the name, I guess
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there was a little a little trouble with with the
ownership and the name, and you know, there's one of
the things that you can't really say much about it.
You don't have any any saying on on that, but
I obviously keep following the team. That team give me
a lot of satisfaction in my life. I have one
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of my best years there with with that organization. There
is still a lot of friends that are tied up
to the to the Guardians, and I always rooting for them.
I mean, there's one of the teams that I always
love watching.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And you're in there Hall of Fame? Is that right?
Speaker 3 (16:42):
You're in there the franchise Hall of Fame? What was
that like getting inducted into that amazing?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Amazing you know, having that walk from centerfield that's what
they have, the little hole there with the players that
they put into the Hall of Fame, and then walking
into the mound and then having the opportunity to talk
to the fans and saying some words. It was one
of the most amazing things that happened in baseball for me.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Now, I remember when you were playing one of your
your nicknas, you were known for the sacrifice part of
your game. I think one story is called you the
Sultan of the Sacrifice. I think you have like the
most sacrifices of anybody in the modern era of baseball.
But over when you watch the game. It's very rare
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that you will see someone do what you were so
good at. What do you think it's going to take
to get that back more into the game of baseball
more regularly part of the game. Something you were so
good at a.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Lot of a lot of things. I going back and
trying to use the bond as one of the way
to score some runs. You know, I take a lot
of pride on that because I was really good at bonding.
I think that I one of the best bonners in
my era, and that probably sacrificed a lot of hits
for me. I don't think that if I bond this
so many times, I would have had three thousand hits
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in the mid legs. So a lot of people told
me that, But you know, just the way it goes.
I was the team player, and I wanted the team
to win, and I sacrificed myself so the other guys
can bring their runs in. So, you know, that was
the way that the game was playing those years.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Now, let's go back to those those Cleveland Indians teams.
There you had several dominant teams. You guys were amazing
in that period of awesome offense. You were the rocket shortstop,
you had good pitching. What do you what do you
think the thing was that that caused those issues in
the World Series. I was actually at the nineteen ninety
seven World Series, Omar, I was covering it when you
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guys played the Marlins and that crazy Game.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Seven and all that.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
But what do you what do you think it was
about that that team that you just you got right
to the edge, which you couldn't get past the finish line.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Well, that's just the way baseball is. You know, Sometime
you have the team, sometimes you don't have the team.
It's just a matter of what team is playing better
at that particular time. I think that we played really good.
We went into the Game seven, but we couldn't close
the door. But you know, that's just baseball. We have
an amazing team balance everywhere. We have pitching, we have closers,
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we have relievers, power average, we have jose about a
little bit of everything. The Josah, you know, the Models
play better baseball on that on that year, and then
we got beat by the Braves on ninety five where
they have smalld gloving and uh maddox. Yeah, so you
know those are those were the masters of pitching on
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the nineties and we run into that trouble there, but
you know, so excited that we have the opportunity to
be there and to share that that experience with your
family and with the rest of your teammates.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Now, one are the other stories going on right now
is the story out of Oakland and the Athletics are
starting the process to leave Oakland. Do you have any memories.
Do you have any memories of playing games? I mean,
the As had some good teams when you were you
were playing.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I got the best memory. My first open when I
make it to the big league was in Oakland. So
that is in the coliseum. That was the first baseball
field that I see when I came up to the
big leagues in eighty nine. That was April third, nineteen
eighty nine. You can look it up and I have
to face guys like Dave Stewart, Stearne, Davis, Dennis Eckersley,
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and obviously they have the power batch guy we can
sec on my wire day, Parker Ricky Henderson. That was
the team that everybody liked to talk about, and the
fact that they put fifty thousand people on those seats
was amazing. I know, that Oakland was wild. That was
crazy for baseball. The things that you see in Oakland
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you didn't see anyone else and it was one of
the best memories for me playing in the coliseum. It's
just too bad that they couldn't work it out. Obviously,
the ownership. I don't know if they're showing in nothings
to stay in Oakland. But it's kind of tough for
me because it was the first baseball field that I
play when I came up.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
And how do you think Vegas is gonna do if
this actually happens though? I mean, I would think guys
coming into Vegas on the road that might be a
big home field advantage for the for the athletics there,
because you go to Vegas on a road trip there.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
You how do you think that's gonna work out?
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Well, I don't know. I'm sure everything is done here
by numbers analytics, just like in baseball. So if they
have the numbers and they see then go work it out.
Go ahead. I think it's gonna be a tough situation
for them. There is a lot of things to do
in Vegas. Everybody knows what Vegas is famous for, and
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I hope that they can back up baseball as well
as they has been backing up the Triple A team
they have right now. I did play there in that
ballpark also, and I think people respond. They have good crowds,
and I hope they can have a good success there.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, now let's go.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
You want a bunch of gold gloves when you you're
playing all with the Indians, all these different teams here.
Is there anyone you watch today in baseball? I think
of you and some of those guys before you as
maybe unbiased you. I think those guys were better. You
were better than some of the guys today. Who's the
top defensive shortstop in today's game? Is there anyone that
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pops into your head here that you watch that kind
of reminds you of the guys that you play with
and yourself.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Well, I really love watching the guy from Detroit have
it bias. I think he makes on an amazing place
when he played the position. He can play everything around
the infield, but he makes an amazing place in there.
I like Lindor. Also with the Mets, there is a
guy that came from Cleveland, and I also watch him
for a lot of games. Tria Turner is a great
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short stop. It's just a pleasure to watch that guy
taking round balls, playing the game the right way. And
I think the other guy is the guy from Pittsburgh.
I forgot his name right now, but he seems to
be a pretty good short stop. And wow, there is
a lot of talent in the Big League nowadays. Every
time you watch a game, you see a great prospect
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that came up that you didn't have any idea they can,
no tools they have. But really enjoying watching the game nowadays.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah, Now, who taught you? Did you teach yourself how
to play short stuff that well?
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Or did Was it a coach? Was it somebody another player?
How did you learn to be so smooth at shortstop
when you were playing?
Speaker 4 (23:27):
I think it was a combination. You know. My dad
was a big fan of the game. Every time that
I was playing in little league games, he kind of
correct me things that he see that I was doing wrong.
And also the coaches that I have when my little
league teams were pretty good. I like to listen a lot,
I like to take a lot of advices, and I
think that's when I get to single a double A.
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I got a lot of success on fielding the ball
making the plays. I felt very confident about all the
plays that I was making and what That's what it
was the key for me.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Now I understand, Omar, you're going to be in Miami
coming up here soon, you know, next week. I believe
it is to honor Miguel Cabrera, who you obviously know
very well.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Tell me, tell me about that that event.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
And yeah, you're gonna be at a Marlins game there
with the Tigers, and tell me about that.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Yeah, it's coming off. In July twenty ninth, there is
a retirement party or a day for all the Venezuelan
people that live in the Miami area. And obviously it's
gonna be in honor of Miguel Cabrera, one of the
best baseball players that has been from my conte from Venezuela.
And I think everybody should go there and honor this
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guy because it's the career that he has. I don't
think that you can see that very often. This guy
is a master with the bat. He's a Triple Crown winner,
and he was really the guy that everybody follow and
when still following, and these young guys like to talk
about great hitters and always Megeret Carbrea came up, so
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it is an honor for me to be there and
obviously inviting all my fellow teammates and friends to go
and support Miguel on that day.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
What is it like, Omar, when you go back to
Venezuela there with you the career you had and they
love baseball and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
They roll out the red carpet when you go back there.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
What's what's it like? It's crazy, man, It's crazy. You
can't even go to the bathroom because they take it
as an excuse and they follow you around and they
want a picture with you anywhere, and you know, it's
just part of part of the game. And I love
it because they recognize you all the time and they
love talking about baseball. It is an amazing man, It's
(25:45):
a great place to be.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
You're like a rock star there, right, I mean everyone
loves you. It's amazing.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Yeah, we are. We are the Mick Jagger in the street.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Exactly exactly all right, So why don't we get out
on this the hall of fame? You had, longevity, defense,
the sacrifice. Can you make a pitch to anyone that
might hear this, who's a QUASEI? Hall of Fame voter, there,
can you make your pitch for the Baseball Hall of Fame?
Why should you be in?
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Well, I don't know. I don't know if I can
make a pitch, but I tell you this, I played
the game with a lot of respect. I played the
game for a long time because of a reason. I
was a good teammates to everybody. I like to spread
the words or good baseball, how to play the game
the right way. And I think that I have enough
(26:36):
numbers to compete with the guys that are there right now.
Obviously it's not up to me anymore. I did all
everything that I could, and I hope the voters can
take a look at the numbers and say, Wow, this
guy really have a great career. I think he deserved
to be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
But you're in the Cleveland Indian slash Guardians Hall of Fame,
are you? You've got to be in some other I mean,
he probably picked up a bunch of awards, right, So
it's the Baseball Hall of Fame is great, But you've
picked up a number of honors.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Right, Omar, Yeah, But I think the Hall of Fame
of Baseball in Cooperstown is a cream of the cream.
That's where all the best players are. And I think
that you know, when you play the game of baseball,
you want to be on the top. You want to
be with the best, and I think it is a
great place to be. And I have the opportunity. I'm
(27:24):
still there and I think I, of course I want
to be there absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Well, hopefully hopefully you'll get it.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
We thank you every time anything else you want to
promote Omar, anything got coming up here people should know about.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Well, we talk a little bit about everything. So thank
you for the opportunity. We're going to be the twenty ninth,
July twenty ninth in the Marlins Park in Miami, and
thank you for talking to me, and hopefully we can
speak some more later on.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Absolutely, thank you, Omar. Having a wonderful day.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Thanks Omar, Thank you sir very much.
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