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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes
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of the old Republic, a sol fastion of fairness. He
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Takes, break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with
Ben Mallard starts right now.
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In the air everywhere, The Fifth Hour with Ben Mahlor
and not Not Danny g Radio this week as we
hang out with you on a Friday, the eighth day
of March, Danny the Fly in Hawaiian as he talked
about over the weekend as he's hanging out. He's been
in Hawaii all week with the family on vacation and in
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his place. Now, we spun the wheel of celebrities, and
we had big names, big names on the wheel of celebrity.
Who are we going to bring in here? Like who's
he gonna be? We're gonna go back to the Fox
Sports Radio archive and bring in like Tony Bruno, Or.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Would we go to Steven A Smith who used to
work here.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Maybe we'd go like a Hollywood star Bradley Cooper, maybe
j Moore who worked at the company, and we spun
the wheel round and round and we got something better
than all of those people.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
The Vegan, my friend, Alex, the Vegan. What's going on, Alex?
How you doing, Bud?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Ben? It is not only an honor and privilege to
sit down with you and do this immaculate show with
your fans and giving them every single day more of you,
but to be on that illustrious wheel, I feel like
we're only underselling ourselves in some kind of aspect.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Ben. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, we actually copied that from the old game show
of the Prices, right, which I think is still around,
but it went down when Bob Barker, the old host left.
But it's National proof Reading Day today. Wow, Alex, So
do you proofread what you do?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Or?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
I feel so confidence sometimes I just send it. I
think I should more though, Yeah, but I.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Don't know that you need to proofread as much these
days because if you're typing on a computer or your phone,
most of these things have like spellcheck, and they'll kind
of correct you as you go along.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
It's not like you have to go back and go
through the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
But a buddy of mine who we've had on the podcast,
Ken Levine, who is a writer, a Hollywood writer, and
he always says, I don't know there is proofreading, but
when you write something like go back after you've done
it and just cut a bunch of stuff out, like
there's too much, like trim the fat. You know, I
get a piece of meat at the butcher shop and
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you got to kind of trim the fat away.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And so I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
That counts as proofreading more like you editing being the
person that kind of cleans up because and I'm guilty
of this too, Like I'll write stuff and I'll put
way too much in there, Yeah, and it becomes problematic.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, I feel that.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
You know what I've been a fan of Ben is
actually voice memos. That's been my thing lately.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, the voice members are good. And this is this
is gonna I'm gonna date myself here, Lex. But I
had in the my early days in radio, I had
a program director named Bo Bennett. And Bo passed out
to everyone at the radio station this little small pad
of paper, right, a little small pad of paper, and
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he and he gave us all pens, and he he
gave us this motivational speech. He's like, all right, here
to be a good talk show host, I'm gonna give
I've given each of you guys a little notepad, like
it'll fit in the back of your your pants.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
He wanted us to walk around wherever we went, like
we were wearing jeans or something.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
We put this notepad in the pen in the back
of our pants, and then when we saw something that
was interesting, just write.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
A little note so you remember it.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
And we all laughed at We all laughed at him
and said, well, this guy's up, you know, douche. And
but now here at my age, now, what I find
myself doing throughout the day is I have I don't
have a note pad, but on my phone I have
the notes. Yes, yeah, the iPhone, I have the notes thing,
which is not audio notes, but I'll what I'll do
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is a often just like speak into it and then
it's kind of like the same thing, you know, it'll
write down what I was thinking of.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, I see something, and so that's incredible.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yeah for me, it's I do agree with you though,
like the whole trimming the FATA text messages, because sometimes
I get too articulate with myself I'm like almost going
back and saying the same thing twice in a different way.
So when I started using voice memos it on it's like,
I also like my voice, Ben, I know you're a
fan of your voice as well, So I like being
able to use my voice and then kind of having
more of a free flow range. It feels like it's
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more kind of like conscious in a sense, like rather
than typing, I'm like, I have to like focus on
spelling and make sure the spell check doesn't say them
where I'm trying to say they or they. It's just
it's it's so much more free flowing, and I feel
like I have a better conversation with people when it
sounds like we're talking.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
So a couple of things. Number one, I don't love
my voice. What I don't?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I am at a point now my I hate listening
to myself really.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah, Like I'll be walking.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Around the hallways of the hollowed Fox Sports Radio building
there the iHeartMedia building, and I'll hear promos for the
show and I'll be like, oh, man, I could have
done that better.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
You know that was I mean, that was all right,
it could have been better.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
And then so I hate that but I I like
my voice more now because I'm kind of grown up.
When I started, I was a kid and I had
my voice was not very.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Deep, I guess, gotcha the way you could describe, Yes,
you know, I was not a debonair. Man. There we go.
Some things I guess hadn't.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Dropped when you need to drop or whatever. And so
over over time, uh that that I've I've become okay
with it. But yeah, I I'm.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
One of those people.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I want everything to be perfect and I hear stuff
and I'm like, ah, that could have been so much better,
Like I could have and I.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Could have said that, you know, with a little bit
of different tone. But you are right. Are our voices
our musical instrument?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Spoken words? That's what we have.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
You're how many podcasts you got? Every time I talk
to you, You've got another podcast, You're doing this, the
anime stuff you got, You're doing motivational stuff. You're all
over man, You're you're blowing up over there.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I just feel like it's something that kind of just
always takes its own way. Like I fel I'm a
ship out at ocean, ben and whichever way the wind
blows me, I just kind of sail towards it and
see where it goes. Like That's been my main focus,
like you said, was the shallow oceans. That's been a
big proponent of mine because I've noticed so many people
just haven't had just really succinct, honest opinion about just
themselves and having an open conversation. That's why I love
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what I do so much with it because every time
I sit down, Ben, I know this is polar opposite
of yourself. I'll sit down with one idea, but I
have nothing written down, nothing planned, and no personal idea
of where the conversation will go, and I'll rift for
thirty forty minutes and just see where it evolves. It's
been amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
So what I do is I have a lot of notes, yeah,
and then and then which a lot of it, A
lot of it I will not even use, but I'll do.
I like to know that if I have, you know,
if I have a brain fart, I got something, yes,
but but oftentimes it's a complete waste of my time.
My life would be so much easier if I was
not built this way. But I learned under Lee Hacksaw
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Hamilton in San Diego and Lee Lee would do these
amazing monologues every night at the beginning of his show,
each hour, and he would spend all day preparing. So
that's that's kind of one of the mentors, right. But then,
but I also learned from Tony Bruno, and I love Tony.
I was on his show at the Super Bowl in Vegas.
There he had me on for a couple of segments.
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But but Tony did things differently. He would he would
have one page and he'd just have a bunch of
chicken scratch of what he wanted to do for the show,
and that was fine.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
And so I've kind of morphed both those.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Things where I've got a little bit of Hacksaw, a
little bit of Tony Bruno. And then another one of
the people that was I was around early Joe McDonald
who was talked to host in Los Angeles, and I
kind of.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Learned learned from him.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
So it's a little bit of those it's my own thing.
But yeah, I don't a podcast maybe, but I don't
know a radio show. I'm I'm going in there and
I'm I'm putting my time in. I got put my
time in.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, that's just kind of the way it is.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I like that though, Ben, because I think that's why
this has been so fun for me, is I feel
like we try to plan so much right and have
so much priorities based on what we want to say.
As you said, just preparation in case you do have
a brain fart, so you know how to catch yourself
and everything. I think like, that's why my focus has
been so fun with it is I wanted to see
exactly where I would go with nothing there to catch me.
It's almost like thinking of it as like you're jumping
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out of a plane and you're going skydiving. You're like, well,
I think I hope there's a parachute in the back
of me. I just grabbed it back back and jumped,
so let's see how this ends out. And it's kind
of cool because every time, not only do I land safely,
but I look up and I'm like, man, that was
actually a more enjoyable experience than last time. And it
just seems to be so organic. It makes it sound
like it's natural, like a conversation. That's why I love it.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, And like if I'm working with someone who I
trust that I know will be prepared, like it's not
as big a deal like I worked with Looney for
years on Sunday, and I knew Looney would would bring
it like you know, he and we would play off
each other, which is one of the reasons that the
TV show worked this year is and one of the
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reasons I wanted Looney for the for the show. When
they asked me, I give them a list of people
that I wanted to do the show with and Looney
was was near the top there because I've worked with
him a long time.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
But working with Tom, it's like I can go in there.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
And plus the other thing, we did a football show,
and you can't really prepare for a show where you're
reacting to.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
What's going on because you don't know what's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
You can be prepared to kind of know what may happen,
but they still have to play the game. So with that,
it was just like a reality TV show where we
just kind of it's so.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Cool, you have bull crap throughout today.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
And it was great because we'd have we've told these
stories before, but we've had people from the NFL on
Fox On and they were contractually obligated to come on,
and some of them were great and they love doing it,
and we're wonderful and just great, you know, sweet spirits
Kenny King's would say back in the day, But others
of them were total douches and didn't want to do it,
and it was it was quite interesting to juxtapus pose
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easy for me to say the different the different agendas
that certain people had doing that. But this week on
the Overnight Show, I know you, of course you worked
just before my show. Yes, I see you as you're
leaving and I'm coming in for the night and you're
you're heading out to the to the wild blue Yonder.
But this week we had the big event was the
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I guess we'll call it Putting the God and the
Octagon as Jed who fled from the swamp land of Florida,
the Redneck Riviera and the ultimate Florida Man.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
He took on Dad Gummet.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
As we said when we did the bit, the it
puts the red and redneck from from Arkansas and quite
the character truck driver, bigger than life personality. It was
the Southern Slam, the Rumble, and the Dixie Jungle and
so scratch Off, which is another nickname for Dad Gummet.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
He showed up and Jed did not show off and it.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Was quite controversial, so so scratch off won by disqualification.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
We've had a few of these octagons over the years.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
The it's really a blood sport verbal blood sport verbal octagon,
and so we had a few of these and like this,
jedhu Fled's done.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
It multiple times.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
We had this guy named blind Scott who's changed a
lot over the years. But blind Scott he also vanished
on us, and so even though he almost was disqualified
by their scratch off, he did get declared the winner.
Jedhu Fled then showed up like the day later if
you listened to the podcast of the Live Overnight show,
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and then he did. He had a chance to say, hey,
I was sorry, I screwed up. Instead he used what
about ism?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I mean, is what is that? It's what about?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
That?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Was his?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
That was our banter back and forth was what about ism?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Now?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Did you ever I asked Eddie this and Eddie said
that he had not taken this. When I was in
high school, I took a debate class. And did you
ever take debate class? You did, right, it's a great class.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
You learned argument good.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I'm glad so you know argument techniques, yes, poisoning the
well right, using a straw man, all of these different things.
The he did it too, yes, or he did it first? Yes,
what kids off and will use you learn all that stuff.
So when I when I immediately I had him on and
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he's like, well I learned from my mentor Ben mallor
you know, he's going on using my name.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
And I was like, that's what about it is he's deflecting.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
That is a diversionary tactic, and he's alway, he's playing
the victim. I can't stand when people played the victim.
Alex one of my pet peeves, right, he just bothers me.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
It's just.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I know, what's up with that man? These your people, Alex,
what's up with your people? I don't want to claim up. I'sired.
These are your comrades out So I don't understand. I
what you know?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I was growing up, it was like you didn't want
to be the victim. No, don't let somebody else control
your narrative. Right, don't you know somebody else make you
the victim? You are what you you know, you make
your own way less.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yes, now it's like, oh, you get cloud as a victim.
It's crazy big thing. It's wild to me.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I think it's like some kind of bipartisan venom. Just
we're in this world now, in this time where it's
so hyper focused on so many different people, so many
different cultures, so many news articles, so many things around
the world, and it makes you kind of feel lost
in the sauce. So it's almost like the easiest thing
for you to do right now is not to blame others,
but in the sense blame the things that are happening
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because it is at fault against you. So they have
this like weird mindset now where everything is affecting them,
but it's in factua He's like, no, no, no, you're you're
the one allowing it, So stop telling the world like
it's it's all this, it's all against me, all this.
It's like, no, no, no, you're allowing it. So you're
the person who just wants to kind of fit into
this mantra of this whole self established thing of welcoming
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and everybody. It's like, at the same time that we've
always been, it's not you don't have to just victimize
yourself to be a part of something. We still love you,
and it just it's annoying to me.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I'm right there with you.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
That's the only reasons I wanted you on the podcast.
It's so society has been contaminated. Yes, this pollutant, this
mass pollutant, this infection.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
It's the victim mentality. It's the you know, woe is me?
I can't you know, I can't do this. You know,
we're rather I would say, you know, who does. Everyone's
got to walk in their own shoes, right, But what
I would like to think is if you came from
a bad background or whatever, right, your family have a
lot of money, you're poor, whatever, that's the that's the
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seed for a wonderful story of overcoming it, not sitting
there and wallowing in the victimhood. Yes, right, Instead, No,
I'm gonna you know, someday I'll say I started from here,
you know, I started from from X, and look where
I ended up. I walk the walk, and you can
do it too. It's so hard not everyone to get you,
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because if people lose their way and life, things happen,
get you get screwed up. But I feel like I
feel like you. I feel like a little motivational guy.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You are because that's like your material.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Yes, because Ben, I'll give you a great story.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
So there's two guys on the side of the road
and they're both sitting on the corner talking to each other.
One guy in this just rags, he's dirty, missing his shoes,
he looks like he needs a bath, food. He is
just in the worst deplorable city could be in right now.
And the guy talking to him has this tailor made suit,
his hairs sophisticated, he's got a Bentley parked up the
street where he came from. And they're both sitting there
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talking and someone comes up and says, what's going on, Like,
is everything okay? They're like, yeah, we're brothers. We were
just reminiscing how we both came from the same place
and how we both used it to benefit or or
worse in our life. He saw it as something that
hampered him. I saw it as something that I could overcome.
And it's crazy to see that two people from the
exact same situation used it in their own way. Yeah, no,
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it's it's not crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It's true. And you see that.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
You'll see people that when one's very successful, Yes, like
like a sisters or brothers.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
One of the other ones will be like, you know,
it'll be losers or.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Just not yes, not deemed successful by society. There's a
great quote I think it was from maybe it was
from Lou Holtz, maybe not. I heard it somewhere along
the way old football coach Lou Holtz for Notre Dame.
But it's like, don't tell me how rocky the sea is.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Just bring the ship in. So you gotta do God
beautiful like.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Kind a bumper sticker, Yeah, something like that, but he's
gotta you gotta do it.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
So that was the the Octagon this week, and Jed
hasn't been banned.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
He still is up the Bennieser this week.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
And we'll talk more about that probably on the Saturday
Pod tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
But the Jed who fled O rama continues.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Also that last weekend, I made a brief trip to
Lost Wages, Nevada, my third trip this year. I have
not It's the third month of the year, if I'm
not mistaken, and I've already been there three times. It's
basically a suburb of La Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I Alex do not.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I would love hate relationship with Vegas because I remember
how Vegas was when you could park for free and
they'd give you.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Free meals and spoil you. Yes.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Now I go to Vegas and they want to charge
you twenty dollars a day to park at their casinos
and the food is outrageous on the strip.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
It's just insane.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
But I was invited my wife, one of her girlfriends
had a birthday.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
It was a milestone.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Birthday, so I was invited to you know, she was
going to go and she wanted me to come hang out.
So originally it was just gonna be I was gonna
be my myself hanging out in a sports book, gambling,
and then eventually it was just like, well, you just
come with.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Us, we'll go around.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
And so one of the places we went was the
Mob Museum, I not being I've been buy it near
the Fremont Street downtown Vegas. And so are you a
Vegas guy, Alex You No, you don't seem like a
Vegas guy.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Now, like an outdoorsy guy. You don't seem like a
Vegas guy.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
You know.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
I've been a few times, like for my twenty first
and for little get togethers or just say it's like
a bachelor party or something. But to myself, Ben if
you can give me like a week at Yosemite or
Joshua Tree or Zion where I'm just sleeping outside, I
can wake up butt naked and drink tea. That sounds
like a good time to me.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
In hell good tree.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Oh, I mean in more ways, dude. It's funny to say,
but I've actually became a tree hugger.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
It's crazy, that's funny. I've never been to Zion. I
would like to go.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Oh, my wife has some relatives that moved to Utah,
so there is a there's he's got an uncle in
an aunt that both live near kind of outside Salt Lake.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
One lives out in the middle of Utah. Going on,
So I have an excuse to.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Go to Utah just to go to Zion, which I
is on my list. But my favorite, you know, my
favorite spot is the Giant Forest.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
The Giant Sequoia Forest. There just amazing. I love going there.
I tried to go there once a year.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
The coolest experience I've ever had there was actually in
twenty twenty three, and it was.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Around this time. It was around this time of the year.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
It was in March, and it's the National Park is
kind of near Fresno in the middle part of California.
But I went there around March, mid to late March
mony beating in early April, and it was about seventy degrees.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
We got up, drive up the mountain covered in snow.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Oh Man, but yet it was you didn't have to
have chains, so you don't ever worry about that, and
it was still relatively mild, and yet there was snow everywhere.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
It was awesome. Yeah, so so cool. I just love it.
Haven't been there obviously this year. It's only been a
few months, so try to get there at some point.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
But it does get pretty hot up there, yes summer,
so I'm just telling you about. I know, Sin City
is a great time for people because you can indulge
in all of your deadly sins. But for myself, there's
just something magical about going outside, Like even if it's
somewhere like a national park or just some cool little
hiking spot, you take off your shoes, connect to the
ground a little bit, take your shirt off. It just
it makes you slow down, if that makes sense. The
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world is so fast we were just talking about before
you even recorded things. Just make it quicker and just
take our time it's if I can find a moment
to just kind of just deplug from everything unplugged and
just desensitize myself to what I think the world is.
It's really refreshing. It kind of helps you get out
of like the whole thing we're talking about, like seasonal depression.
I just I haven't been outside in so long. It's like, dude,
just how about you just tell yourself you're bored. I mean,
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we can be honest about it.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, yeah, I hear it.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
So the Mob Museum just to finish the thoughts. So
it was kind of it was cool. I I like
going to randomlyums and this was this is different. I'd
been buying. I'd heard good things about it. I thought
it was a pretty good experience. It was expensive, but
all these things are expensive these days, with the Biden
inflation or the Putin inflation or whatever you want to
call it. I don't know, everything's expensive. But it inspired
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me and I don't want to forget these things. And
I had the light bulb go off when I was
walking around the Mob Museum. I have had a couple
of run ins with mobsters in my life, and I
was thinking about this as I was walking around and
one of the people that I ran into was featured
in the Mob Museum, and I was like, wow, it
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was funny because my wife and her her girlfriends were
kind of running through the place, right.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
They were kind of going through it.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
They had to speak easy at the bottom where you
can go get a drink meal, and so they were
kind of motivated to go get a cocktail at the bar.
But I was kind of into looking at the stuff
in the museum, and they had all these old artifacts.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
So then I went down. They had this wall of
mob fame. I get.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I don't know what it's called. I exactly right, the
Bobby frame. Yeah, yeah, so they had all these different
famous mobsters. I've had three runnings with mob people, but
the most famous was actually in the Fox Sports Radio building.
What yeah, this goes back probably, man, it's got to
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be at this point fifteen sixteen, seventeen years ago, so
a long time ago, a number of years ago.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
And at that time, we were in the old studio.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Which is, you know, down the hall from the new studio,
and Joe McDonald was the guy doing the show before
my show in LA and I was buddies with Joe
and so I would go outside to do cross talk.
I didn't want to be bothered in the hallway, so
I'd go outside and get on the phone and call
him in to his show locally in LA and tell
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him what was going to happen on our show, kind
of promote the show. So I went outside. It was
it was during the winter, it was kind of cool whatever.
I walk outside and there's this guy standing in front
of the door and he's, hey, are you on the radio?
And I'm walking out of a radio station. I'm like, no, no, no,
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and I kind of I kind of ignored him, right,
and I walked down the street, thinking he was just
going to keep walking, and so I did my like
five minute phoner with the big nasty Joe McDonald and
then I walked back to the outside you know the
outside door there, Yeah, goes out.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
We've all you know those that are work the building,
Mark does.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
So I walked back and the guys passed the door.
So I'm walking towards the door. Next thing I know,
the guy takes he sees me kind of out of
his peripheral vision, so he starts walking back. Uh, it's
kind of towards me, and there's Hey, you're the you're
on the you're on the radio. You know. I'm I'm
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Henry fucking Hill, and I am I want to be
on the radio. Put me on the radio, right, And
this guy's reeks of alcohol. Wow, guy reeks alcohol. Looks
like he's homeless, Hull dishevel, right, And so I'm like, yeah,
you're Henry you know.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
In my head, I'm like, yeah, you're Henry Hill. Right,
You're Henry Hill.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
And I'm I'm Homer Simpson, you know. And I walk
in there and it was the The Wireless and Greg
Bergman was my producer, Bergie and so this guy I
walk in, he starts banging on the.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Door, bang bang bang bang bang. Let me in. I'm
Henry fucking Hill. You know, you know who I am?
And so whatever.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
So then I I went on Google because I knew
who Henry Hill was. My favorite movie is Goodfellas. Yes,
So I type Henry Hill. I type his name, and
Henry had popped up. He was in the Witness Protection Program.
He was actually kicked out of the Witness Protection Program,
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but he pop up on the Howard Stern Show, and
so there was there were pictures.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Of Henry Hill and that was Henry Hill.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
No, he was living in Sherman Oaks, which is where
our studios are in LA and he was apparently a
raging alcoholic. He died of alcohol. I believe it was
alcohol related illness. And yeah, that guy killed people, right.
He also I believe he set up one of the
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famous point shaving situation Boston College. I think that was
a Henry Hill creation back in the day that.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
He he gave. I think he gave testimony.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
He became an informant, and I think he was part
of the famous was it the airplane heist?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
The what was it called the Louis Stanza or whatever?
Speaker 3 (25:48):
It was probably mispronouncing that, but yeah, so that was Henry.
That was one of the the run into another one
I had was kind of around that time. I had
lost the bed with some listeners in Boston and it
was actually about the Giants Patriot super Bowl. A guy
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who was a Giants fan living in Boston of all things,
bet on Eli Manning and the Giants, and I was
ripping Eli, calling him in the punk and all that,
and the Giants ended up winning the Super Bowl. So
we had made a bet on the air that I
was going to come to Boston and buy him and
his buddy's dinner, and so I did. I didn't want
to go to Boston anyway, so I flew back there
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and this guy was a big fan of the show
he had. He'd hooked me up though. He said, listen,
you know you buy this, then i'll take carry all right,
So he.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
He got a hotel room for pretty much nothing.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Pretty much nothing. You had to pay a couple of bucks,
but it was pretty cheap. Then he says, you're going
to need to get around Boston. So he says, go
down to the front desk concierge at the hotel whatever
they call it, and there'll be an envelope for you.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Okay. So I go down and there's a there's an
envelope with my name on it.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
And there's a little sticky note, like a yellow note,
and there's a key. The note says, go to the
back of a hotel. There's a car you can drive.
If anybody pulls you over, just say it's a friend's car.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
So the car so all right, fine.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
So then I ended up buying these guys dinner at
San Parpios, which is this famous pizza place in Boston.
East Boston, really good pizza, old pizza place. It's been
around for a long time. It's we don't have stuff
like that in California. It's really not that much stuff.
It's been around, been around a long time.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I guess the missions, I guess so.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
But anyway, so we went, we had the meal, and
this guy brought like there were.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I don't remember exactly how many. It was like fifteen
twenty dudes.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
And they all still lived in the neighborhood. They all
grew up there. They were all buddies from school and
they all worked. Look all the jobs.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
So then we had the meal and my buddy's like, hey,
there's somebody else that wants to meet you. He couldn't
make it, so I want you to follow me, and
we're gonna go, and I want you know, he's he's
a fan of yours and I want you to meet
So I was like, all right, you know whatever, I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
You took care of me pretty well.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
And the meal was, you know, several hundred dollars, but
that's fine, and we'd buy some pies and some beer
for the guys and that's it. So I follow this
guy to a chop shop in a ceed neighborhood of Boston,
and I meet the guy, and the guy is quite
quite the character, right, quite the character, and he's he's
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telling me, he's like, you know, you know, he's like,
I like your show, I like your style. Whatever's give
me the.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Whole rap there. And then he's like, you know, he
starts trying to brag a little bit, like his thing is.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
He wants to he wants to, you know, show me that,
you know, he's got he's got some some So he's
telling me, you know, I just want you to know
I'm not like this anymore. But I was younger, you know,
I I lived a hard life, you know, but this
guy's got like tons of apparently he's got tons of money.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
My buddy's like telling me, this guy's loaded. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
And the chop shop looked like a piece of shit,
so I was, you know whatever. Anyway, the long story short,
the guy's telling me that when his younger days, he
was in a in an organization and he claimed that
his sister I got I forget exactly. It was some
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connection where his sister knew somebody who knew somebody else
who knew one of the people that wrote The Sopranos,
the Big Show on HBO many years ago. Yes, and
that one of the writers followed him around and that
was how they they kind of learned about the mob
and organized crime and stuff was from him, and.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
That's what he claimed. Now, maybe the guy was full
of you know what, right horse manure, No, but this
is what he told me. And based on some recon
that I had, I don't know. I don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Then the other one, the other one I had real
quick is I was I had a lemon.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
You won't get a lemon. I got a lemon then,
not from the.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Toyota famous car dealership in California, but I got a lemon.
So it's a total scam. By the way, there are
lemon laws. But have you ever got you had a lemon?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Didn't you?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Currently m yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
So the way it works, the lemon law is you
buy the car for an amazing amount of money, you
drive it off the lot and immediately loses money. Yes,
and then if it's a lemon, they have to buy
it back, but they downgrade how much the car is
worth because they go by the Kelly Blue Book. And
I said, well, you know, so you you end up
losing thousands of dollars, even though it's no fault of
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your own.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
You did nothing wrong. You paid for a car, you
were told you were going to get a good car.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
They give you, you know, a clunker, a Jelpi, and
then this great I had to return the car. There's
a transition of power where you drop the car off.
You have to fill out a bunch of paperwork. They
then cut you a check.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
So I go in.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
This guy meets us at a car dealership. We were
there to drop the car off. The guy then another
guy starts telling. He starts talking about this.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
He says, he says, you know who, he's telling me
about his past. He's like, oh, yeah, I grew up.
I just had my mom and that was it, you know,
my father.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
He claimed that he was related to Lucky Luciano.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Really yeah, this.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Guy, Yeah, I don't know if he has a bull
you know what what but bullpucking. So this guy's whole
rap was he said that his mom was a maid
at Lucky Luciano's home and Luciano had an affair as
an old man with his mom, and he pulled out.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
A this is the funniest thing. He pulls out a photo.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
In his wall of Lucky Luciano and then he holds
it up to his face.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Do you see the resemblance? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah, the guy he said he he was he lived
in Reno and then he had come to l A
occasionally for work. But yeah, so those are my mob
mob related stories.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
There are three of them. That's increasing my favorites. The
Henry Hill one, without doubt, that's insane, dude. Still it
still blows me.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Away that I was like totally dismissive he was he
was old and drunk and uh and I get it,
but but still, I mean, the guy had seen some
really dark things in his life. All Right, we'll get
out on that. Anything you would like to promote here,
We've got two more podcasts to do this weekend.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Any want to plug your any.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Specific podcast Alex before we close closed the book?
Speaker 4 (32:56):
For sure, I would like to. But first I got
to say, Ben, isn't it true that somebody actually shot
at the studios one time when you were hosting?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Oh that did happen the mob people, Ben, I don't know.
We we think we know who did that. Well, that
was not a mob guy, that was somebody Yeah, yeah,
we well, I don't, I don't know we should say,
but there was someone that that well, somebody that worked
at the company that was let go on a Friday,
and we think of their way out of town on
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Sunday night, they wanted to get one shot off before
they left town.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
And yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
My, my, my favorite part of that was my board
off this guy Jerry, who may or may not have
done some shady things in his past.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I love Jerry, but I said, hey, Jerry, you got
to call the cops. Somebody just shot the window. And
Jerry's like, he's kind of gave me this day's look.
I know.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
I said, look over there in the window. That wasn't
the out it's double plane glass, so the outside was
completely smashed. On the inside, I fortunately was not. It
was another plane, a bulletproof class.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
And so he's like, I got it, hude.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
So what he did his decision was rather than call
the cops because he didn't want the cops to go
there because he might have had.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Some warrants right or whatever.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
So he decided to just close all the blinds so
at least the people wouldn't know where they were shooting.
So that was his gosh, and then he went to
building security, Like, what's the security cops anyway?
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Yeah, exactly, So.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
That's incredible, Ben, that was I was on there where
Jim Daniels. It was a Sunday night, Jim's rock and
roll guy.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Gosh, he was there a show.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
I wish I had a gangster story for you. But
the most I have his boardwalk from HBO and Sopranos.
That's like the most mob relations I've had is watching
those shit.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Out of I didn't go out of my way for
any of these things. That just kind of happened. It's amazing. Yeah,
that's the weird thing.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Anyway, I'll get out of that.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
I have a great rest of your Friday. And uh hey,
Alex Vegan's with us all weekend. Oh we amazing And
we'll have another.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Part tomorrow'll catch you next time.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
And as Danny would say, when we say aloha, well
this week, he'd probably say a loha or later skater,
later skater