Stuck on Sports

It's not what most would expect, but Ben and his Hollywood wingman return with a legit sports conversation to open things up. To make matters worse, they go back-to-back on a few hot topics that go from the gridiron to the diamond. All is well in the Maller Mansion (outside the tab) with the kitchen under repairs so there isn't much for Ben to complain about there. The fellas do get back to some numbers along with a fascinating trend on a new social media app.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Boom. If you've thought more hours a day, minutes a
week was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants
of the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He
treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the
rich pill poppers in the penthouse, to clearinghouse of hot takes,
break free or something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben

(00:24):
Maller starts right now today here it is the Fifth
Hour with Ben Maller and David gascon As. We are
here to enlighten you on this non football weekend no NF. Well,
I don't consider the Pro Bowl. I've been to the
Pro Bowl kind of years ago. I don't consider the

(00:44):
Pro Bowl and actual NFL events. So there will be
no Benny versus the Penny podcast. But you do have
this standby Grab Bass podcast because four hours, five days
a week is not enough of the Ben Maller brand,
if you want to call that a brand. But we
are in the air everywhere the vast power of My Heart,

(01:06):
the global reach of podcasting. This podcast has heard weekly
on the I Heart podcast network, which you probably already
figured that out because you're listening to it. But tell
your friends, Tell your friends want to up the numbers
here in still earlier in the year obviously, so I
want to see these podcast numbers go up and maybe
we'll actually get some money. Um of course me not

(01:27):
David Gascon, who is right over there. Unfortunately, back again,
we thought you would be gone, but you've survived under
the week. Yeah. You know what, I will say that
in all of this with the fifth out with Ben Maller,
that UM, I welcome you into the studio this entire
week because I'll tell you what, not only do we
have sportscasters, producers, editors here at Fox Sports Radio, but

(01:50):
we got some amazing politicians and we got some knowledgeable
attorneys throughout as we are. We're underway in the impeachment
here inwies so we got Rhodes scholars in here. It's
a it's a delight to tell you this much, Ben,
it is a lot of fun to see, um, all
the intellectuals that are throughout this building so loud and

(02:11):
proud here we are. You're you're enjoying this, You're you're
feasting on all of this. Yeah. I think it's I
think it's entertainment. I think it's good. Um, we have
like the parlor game. David guest Gun enjoys the parlor
game of the impeachment. I've watched some of it, but
small doses well earlier in the week. I can only

(02:34):
handle blow blowhards so much. Yeah, but look at the
industry we're in. Like I said, I can only handle
the blowhards so much. I don't hang out with these people.
We don't. It's if it's not one thing, it's another.
Turn your turn your damn phone off. Turn your phone off.
Please put it on silent. You can't be interrupted. I
gave you an entire hour to sleep, and now you're

(02:56):
interrupt in this podcast. Your stupid you were fifteen minutes
late to the podcast, and so you will be deducted
from your pay. You will be deducted for fifteen minutes.
That a Demerit is that what that is? Yeah? Do
you know that you're a bad influence? Like people are
sending me angry messages from the Bible belt. I know
that you're getting me to curse, and they do not

(03:17):
like to hear. I'm like, leave it to beaver. I
don't curse, but you've gotten me to curse on this
fucking podcast, and people are upset by that. I don't.
I don't tell you to curse. And it's understandable that
some people don't want you to use foul language because
they have kids, they have lives that it's it's not
a it's not a bomb on. Kids curse more than anybody,

(03:37):
of course, But I learned all these words when I
was a kid. But they don't do it around their parents.
I understand the last thing they need is you or
I to be a bad influence on them. So can
you can you curb the cussing a little bit? Please?
You curse? If you do a side by a ven diagram,
you curse much more than I curse. But it's usually
at you. Well, yeah, which is called for unnecessary and dumb.

(04:02):
But it's not on air. It's not on a podcast,
it's not on the national radio. It's not on air.
What do you what do you hello? Is this thing on? Well?
I mean sometimes it is, sometimes it's not. I guess
it just depends on the time of day, right, I mean,
you're loyal enthusiasts and blow hards aren't really downloading as
much as they should apparently, But it's all good other
than the numbers are where they're I guess they're supposed

(04:24):
to be. I just think they should be higher. I think,
but working with you is a liability, speaking of which
that you have to overcome, a liability. I heard I
heard Media did their two thousand nineteen podcast awards just recently,
and uh, I'm proud to say that you were not
among the elected podcasts. And there's a reason for that.
And uh, well, the reason is you well look in

(04:47):
the mirror and you will see why that that we
cannot be accepted by the mainstream. With David Gascon, that's
the react. But I don't really want to win awards
because my whole reputation has been that I am people's champ.
I don't need to be some fugazzi award show. They
have these awards shows. I have friends of mine to
go to these luncheons and they get awards, and it

(05:09):
looks like just the most horrible afternoon you could possibly
spend hanging around with a bunch of gas bags who
are also full of themselves, how great they are, patting
each other on the back, taking bows. Who wants to
take part in something like that, Well, I think for
the purposes of of professional acknowledgement, maybe a company bonus,

(05:32):
maybe an advancement in the career. I think, well, you
can show me where in that contract I get a bonus.
If I win an I Heeart Podcast award, then I
will be motivated and I will lick the toes of
who I need to lick to win the award. Well
as you did, mention, It's all about enlightenment. It's all
about making people aware. And when you make people aware,
advertisers come, sponsors come, new friends come along and uh,

(05:56):
and I won't have to be doing such so much
of the heavy lifting for us to market outside of
this building here. So um, I can only do so much.
I can only bring it to the water. I can't
force you to drink at Ben Maller. You know you are.
I'm Lebron James, your Mo Williams, and I'm handing you
to a championship. At least at least she didn't say

(06:16):
I was somebody else that was on that team that
is now suffering greatly. So um, I'm I am Kauhai
Leonard and you are Jeremy Lynn and I have won
a championship for you. But you get a ring? Oh well,
y'all get a ring. One a way or another at
quarterback championship ring. Doesn't the chief in the championship ring?
Luke won't want an NBA title with the Lakers. Is

(06:39):
that take a championships? Does that take away from anything?
Of course not everybody has a role. I think that
mine needs to be amplified a little bit more. Um,
but that is your role is to get hemorrhoids role.
Sitting there listening, we can certainly do that. So what
do we What do we have on the alright venue
on this Week's a Day into the fifth Hour with

(07:01):
Ben malloy. We've got the voice of a killer haunting
from the trash can. We've got that fake it until
you make it. We'll get that as well. Study this
grab bag, which is the mail bag. We just changed mail.
We grab mail to grab or whatever. Whatever. You get
the point, uh, and don't stick to sports stories of

(07:22):
the week, So we get those. We've got a lot
to get to and we'll probably not get to half
of it, but we begin with this Aaron Hernandez documentary
which I have been watching on Netflix and I'm not
all the way through it yet. I've made my way
through most of it. It is pretty good, actually, it's
pretty good, uh on the mall scale of documentaries one

(07:45):
to ten, with ten being the magnum opus. I'm out
of nine, and it could go up to a ten.
I'm out of nine right now. It's got a chance
to get to attend. That's not good that there's great
production value on this, which is important with podcasts. Sometimes
it's amateur our kind of like the fish Bowl, the

(08:05):
famous fish Bowl podcast that we did with guests gout
Engineering back in but the podcast that's a different animal.
The documentary with Aaron Hernandez life story, fast moving, somewhat informative, alow.
I knew a lot of it and chilling at times.
And that's the thing that I didn't expect this to

(08:26):
be that great because we were on the radio talking
about Aaron Hernandez when he was on trial for murder
and then substantly found guilty of that and all, and
so we didn't play a monologues. I knew a lot
about it. I was doing some radio in Boston remotely
during that time, so we talked a lot about it

(08:47):
on the Boston Show off and on, and I knew
some of the people that were involved in the story.
On the kind of the outskirts of the story. But
it's just wild. I mean to watch it and hear
the phone calls that this guy was going around killing
multiple people, and he then show up at the stadium

(09:09):
on Sunday and rah rah there are a bunch of
people wearing this jersey cheering him on, not knowing they
were cheering on a killer. Just craziness and the ability
that Internet has had to compartmentalize. He's uh, he's fast. Fascinating. Yeah,
the way that it was all all laid out, Yeah,
I mean, just what you're hiding guests. Well, just because

(09:31):
of the way that this wasn't just a regular guy.
This was a high performance athlete at the major Division
one level at Florida and then eventually in the National
Football leagues. Sue to maintain that kind of excellence on
the field, not only physically but also mentally, to stay
disciplined within the confines of Florida and also at New England.

(09:55):
It was. It was phenomenal. Now, I know you haven't
finished all of it just yet, so I won't boil
the end. Well, I know what happens, he dies. I
am aware of the end of this, but you know,
what if if that was the case. You know how
it ends, you wouldn't be watching the damn documentary. So
I'm saying purpose logistics and how things worked internally with
New England. I'm not going to spoil it for you.

(10:17):
Let me let me explain, guest on that when I'm
watching this documentary, I will be checking it out because
there's people I know that I have not seen yet
in the documentary that work or used to work at
w E. I uh so, people I am casual acquaintances with.
So I want to see that part of the story.
So you don't want to see any kind of background

(10:38):
story on the patriots or I know that the patriots
look the other way, and they're gonna claim probably in there,
I haven't seen the end of it, but they're gonna
claim they try to get him help and whatever. I
don't know how you help somebody like that, but they
probably are going to say that, how about this? How
about you wait and watch the entire thing before you
make those kind of assumptions. How about that? Okay, I mean,

(11:01):
how about I'll wait for you please. Now. I finished
it last night. I enjoyed it, and you want a
cookie congratulations. But as I was getting I mean, if
I if I didn't work during the week, I would
have watched it last night too. I have a job,
I have to work at night. I have to watch
sports at night. I keep you watching documentaries at night,
manual labor. Well, I have fortunate watch documentaries two days
a week. What days of those Friday night if my

(11:25):
wife allows it, depending on if she wants to do
something else. And then on Saturday, I'll leave a little time.
I will a lot time to watch some documentaries. So
it's like two days a week I catch up on
my documentaries, and then during the rest of the week,
I'm hard. Oh sports guy, looking for things to talk about,
That's what I do. Now this is one of them.
I mean, this is not a topic of conversation in

(11:45):
the mainstream media, or you couldn't talk about this at
all in the National Football League with Super Bowl right
around the corner and the NFL season coming to a
close and the NFL Draft coming up, the combine coming up, Like,
you couldn't bring that into a top up a conversation. Yeah,
could you? I mean I could? I mean that would

(12:06):
require you to cut off your callers, so I know
you don't want to do that. Why would I have
to cut off caller because that would mean more, That
would mean more content for you, like you have to
talk more and elaborate more on I don't take that
many calls anymore. I am selective with the calls. I
do a monologue at the beginning, and then I have
a you know, a few calls I mixed in throughout
the hour. And people want to stay on hold, they
can get on the show. If not, they can hang up.

(12:27):
They're free to do whatever they want. And people don't
hang on, then that's fine. We just talk, all right, Well,
all right, moving on from the in her Nadez documentaries.
You told me I shouldn't talk about it because I
didn't watch that. Don't make an assumption on the back
end of it. That's all I'm saying. Because it is enjoyable.
Like you said, he's dead, I'm not sad he's dead.
He was a loser, as scumbag, a psychopath and you know,

(12:50):
go around randomly killing people and they don't feel any
empathy for you. So you gave this, you gave this
documentary a nine, and you only want to watch the
end for the people that you know. Yeah, what else
that people will be in the documentary, so I want
to watch and see how they're portrayed in the documentary.
That's just absolutely fascinating to me. Right, I'm moving on.

(13:12):
Haunting from the Trash. Can be sure to catch live
editions of The Ben Meller Show weekdays at two am
Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
I Heart Radio app. So, this Houston Astros story, which
we have chronicled day in and day out, effortless coverage,
endless coverage as well of this story, and I reject

(13:35):
the notion that Major League Baseball has it They're just
gonna be able to sweep this under the rug, and
this is it. That's all it's gonna you know, nothing more.
This is a one month story and by the time
spring training games get going, people will have moved on.
This is going to come back and haunt them like
a traumatic experience in your life or some kind of

(13:58):
disease that keeps popping back up every so often. Uh,
it is going to be the ongoing narrative. I am
convinced in season and there's nothing that Rob Manford can do.
There's nothing that Robert Crane, the owner of the Astros,
can do or any of these other Jamox, These Mama
Lukes are so screwed. Uh. And it's it's an odd

(14:22):
deal because Baseball made a deal with the devil. The
I want to use the right terms. I don't want
to curse anymore guests. Guy, I said the f wort already.
I don't want to upset the people in the Bible
belt who are offended here. But the way I'll say it,
I'll say, like this right, the fact that Baseball made
a deal with the devil for immunity, and they were
the players supposedly that's why none of them got punished. Uh.

(14:46):
These players getting immunity, now, it's like the perfect crime
stealing the Mona Lisa and not getting caught on video
and no d n a fingerprint evidence. The Dodgers, the
Yankee the A's, the Mariners, the Rangers, pretty much every
team in the American League other than I guess the

(15:07):
Red Sox, who are part of this and complicit with it.
It is going to be vicious. I have heard from
a number of my friends Dodger fans who are looking
at the schedule for the trips the Astros make to
Anaheim for the sole purpose of booing the Astros and
goofing on them. And the other part is the other

(15:30):
reason forget about that. I mean, the fan outrage will
will die down, maybe it won't die down. But what happens?
Think about this, what happens if Alex Bregman and Jose
Altuve are frauds and they turn into two forty hitters
with limited power all of a sudden. Are they gonna
blame injuries? Are they gonna blame some other boogeyman or

(15:53):
the obvious? No more bang bang, no more buzz buzz,
no more whistle while you work, Like, what's the spin
gonna be from the Astros a major league baseball? It's
going to be interesting. I think one of the guys
that you'll remember this, but going back to a guy
that was pot for p E d Us was Brady Anderson,

(16:14):
the Baltimore Orioles. That's old school guests on you're dating
your stuff. That's before my time. I've I've heard about it.
I read him on the Wikipedia. Yeah, but of course,
so you know this. I mean he topped out with
what fifty home runs and and then all of a
sudden just fell off a cliff. I think that's exactly
what's gonna happen to these guys that they don't perform
at least at an average level. But you hit the

(16:35):
nail run on the head. And I've got a problem
with it because this is gonna staying Rob Manfred's legacy
as commissioner of Major League Baseball. And people will say
that there's no precedent for this, that this is enough
of a penalty against the general manager, against the manager,
against the future manager when Carlos beltran, but it's not.
And this dates back to eighteen seventy seven guys got

(16:58):
banned for life. There's were players, then you got the
eight players the nineteen nineteen Chicago Black Socks scandal, and
this is an opportunity for him to drop the hammer,
and he's not doing that by giving these guys immunity.
It's just dumbfounding to me because these are the ones
that executed the plan to cheat, to rob the game,

(17:19):
to steal from other teams, and obviously use technology to
improve the likelihood of winning a World Series. And I
think it's gutless to do this or not to take
any action against these guys, because what's it a turrent
for these guys in the future. Oh yeah, listen, if
you told me right now that you could get away
with it, it's the perfect crime. And all you're gonna

(17:40):
lose is your dopey manager and your owners are gonna
be fine. Who's worth billions will be fined five dollars essentially? Uh,
and then your GM has gone okay done? Where do
I sign the paper with? I'd like the champion. And
that's exactly if if I gave the common man h
G h R steroids and I said, hey, you have
decent athletic ability, but here are P E D s

(18:02):
now enhancement. There might be an opportunity for you to
get caught, but you still have a chance to make
millions of dollars, not only for yourself or your family,
be set for life. Who wouldn't take that kind of action? Well,
it's like when you if you rob a bank and
then you get to keep the money, but you have
to go to jail for a couple of y I
would do it exactly. Who wouldn't do it? You know?

(18:25):
Of course you're gonna do it. If you figure about it,
spent a couple of years in jail, it can't be
that bad. I'll be you know, club fed or whatever,
and then I'll keep the money when I come out.
And uh, it's just wrong out. Listen. We've talked about
this when when baseball, in the early days of baseball,
when guys got suspended, there was no union. Since the
Union got muscle, since the Union got backbone, baseball has

(18:49):
been a bunch of pussy willows. But even you know,
you think about bud Selike in the steroid era, bud
Selick could have easily suspended players based on the best
interest of the game, looking out for the wellness of baseball,
whatever clause they call it, whatever language and they use.
But but Seeley didn't do it because he was afraid
of the Union and he didn't even try to punish

(19:12):
anybody that was involved in this. Eventually they made a
compromise because of bad pr and they put the steroid
rules in. But he could have violated and he could
have punished these guys, didn't do it. There's a culture
in baseball of looking the other way, and it's you know,
boys being boys and all that stuff. And but the fact,
the main reason that Rob Manford looks like a giant
pussy willow is because of the fact that the Mexican

(19:35):
drug cartels have as much power in Mexico as the
Union has over major League Baseball right and based most
Major League Baseball teams, it's a den of inequity. There's
a lot of shadiness going on with bending the rules,
but it's again, it's it's okay when you hire the

(19:55):
five year old guy that should not be wearing a
baseball uniform who happens to be good at detecting te
holes from pictures or ripping off signs, that's okay. But
when you put a camera and bang bang and buzz
buzz and and all that, that's where you've crossed the line,
period period. Stop. But but the other thing too, about

(20:15):
the Astros. When you watch Astros games, Let's say they
do win some games this year because they have players
that we think are good, but maybe they're not because
of cheating. Any time the Astros get a big home run,
if there's any kind of oddity, any kind of sound
thing that goes bump in the night, will be assumed
to be part of some new age way to to
tell a hitter when you know when something's coming. Can

(20:38):
you imagine going to like Anaheim or Yankee stadium in
in here, and when the Astro hitters are the plate,
people will be banging seats, you know, whatever they can
get to make noise, to make kind of reminiscent and
make it sound like trash cans and things like that.
You know that's gonna happen. It reminds me of back
in the day when Bonds would go down to San

(20:59):
Diego or even law Sandels and people would throw syringes
or fake syringes onto the diamond. I don't know if
you remember that. I don't remember that. Yeah, I was
around at games, going to games, and I remember bon
Bonds was like an infamous like he was. He was
a brute of baseball and people just despised him, and

(21:20):
he was so upset with Barry Bonds. And in the
media coverage you was crazy. Now, I don't I don't
know how you feel on this, but I don't like
the stance that CC Sabathia took with this about how
the Astros robbed him and the Yankees of a World
Series title. I wouldn't give the Dodgers the title in
seventeen or eighteen, but I was certainly wanted to assume

(21:41):
that the Yankees would be there either, and and I
think what they should have done, much like with Reggie
Bush and the Heisman Trophy that was vacated, I think
they need to do the same thing too, because you
can't make it right, but at least you can negate
what they acclaimed. You got the bonuses, you've got the rings,
and you got the celebrity status from a team that

(22:02):
was Don't forget they were absolutely horrific in the early
two thousand's. They were a doormat. I mean they went
to what one World Series with Royal Oswalton Company, but
they were They were dormant for such a long period time.
They had all those high ranking draft picks and it
led to nothing for for countless years, and then all

(22:23):
of a sudden, these guys started getting good, which is understandable.
They make some trades, They pick up Justin Verlander, who
should have been a Dodger in two thousand and seventeen,
but nobody wants to spend the money. And then these guys,
I think was cheat. I wouldn't be shocked if he was.
They were doing something with the pictures too, that hasn't
come out yet because Verlander, when he was with Detroit
he looked like he was on the back nine and

(22:45):
he didn't have much left, and he goes to Houston.
He's cy young, but at the time he was with
the Tigers, it did not look like that was a
wise trade because he had a lot of money left
in his contract. He had not been all that great
for the for the Tigers. But the Astros usually some
of the stiff pictures that had gone to Houston, guys

(23:06):
that were underachievers and all of a sudden turned out
to be these massive supernova pictures. On the mind was like,
what's going on here? But the Astros also, it's it's
good that this has happening in a way because they
are a product of tanking. The Astros at one point,
one of the great stories that they had a cable
dispute in Houston. Had a friend that worked at the

(23:28):
cable network that was not carried in a lot of
the cable market, you know, cable companies in Houston, and
the Astros had a game where they had a zero
point zero rating. Professional baseball team within the last decade
had a game We're literally according to the ratings, nobody
was watching. That is very difficult to do that to

(23:50):
pull that off and they were able to do it.
So listen to me, these guys are all outlaws. Altol
A doesn't get in the Hall of Fame, Bregman, that'll
be their their punishment. I mean, based on the fact
that if you're not gonna put Bonds and Clemens in
the known the known steroid guys and other than pet
Rodriguezen like Piazza, then the come up in the price
to pay here the pound of flesh, will be by

(24:13):
the baseball writers. But we have a lot of young
baseball writers that don't really care about this and think
it's absurd the Astros are even being punished at all.
So well that this is the same reason why Kurt
Schilling is not in the Hall of Fame too, because
don't tell me his resume does not qualify for the
Howard Halls of Cooper's Town. Because he was great in

(24:36):
Philadelphia on a bad team still got them to a
World Series, and he was fantastic in Arizona and even
in Boston. He won three World Series titles, has four trips,
and had eleven and two records with an e r A.
Just over to the guy was money in postseason play.
But he's on the wrong side of the political spectrum
for the many of the baseball writers exactly. So he's

(24:56):
being crucified and condemned for his political position, and some
of these writers are even admitting it, which plows me away.
It's like some of the guys on the writers on Twitter, like, yeah,
I don't like this guy. That's unfortunate. But yeah, it
goes back to your point about them not even caring.
So I don't know for you, do you think that
in your own cynic way that baseball actually enjoys this

(25:19):
because you go back to with McGuire and Sosa and
Griffy in that home run chase, there was acknowledgement of
pe d us down the road, but then all that still,
for lack of a better term, it amplified a tenant's
numbers in Major League Baseball, and the game itself grew
after that. Yeah, listen, I I think there is absolutely

(25:43):
truth in that. I mean the fact that a bunch
of people who I know off the air talk show
hosts who have told me, why do you talk about
baseball men? It's an old man's sport, it's an old
white sport. Nobody cares about it. It's a dying sport.
I don't talk about it. You know these people, the
never baseball crowd on talk radio who tell me this
off the year while you're an idiot you talk, you'd

(26:03):
be better if you didn't talk about baseball. These are
the people that love this story. Right. So it's it's
the old argument of any publicity is good publicity. And
you already pay attention about what they say about you,
what they write about you. It's just you measure it
in interest or you measure it in the number of tweets. Right,
And it's and and and the Astros are gonna be
brewed up the wazoo. And I do believe in the
old quote that Reggie Jackson had back the old Hall

(26:25):
of Famer in his day with the Yankees, when he
talked about the fact that they don't boo nobody's, right,
they don't boo nobody's And so yeah, the Astros people
are angry, and there's gonna be that lynch mob mentality
with the Astros. But it is actually publicity because people
are gonna be curious to see what happens and check
out whether there's a fall of the Roman Empire. In

(26:46):
this case, the Houston Astros Empire. How about the fact
that they have we talked about on the radio the
other night earlier the week. I love that we're doing
a sport or podcast, but the Astros had the hutzpah
of tweeting out that their owner bregmant in l Tuba
one Awards. Yeah, what's up with that? And the best
part was someone had actually captured a tweet from Justin Verlander.

(27:10):
And I don't know if it was a tweet from
him or or an article where he was interviewed, but
back in two thousand seventeen or prior to that, when
he was with Detroit talking about how Major League Baseball
needs to do something about sign stealing. So this is
all all coming out and he did something about it,
he found a team that was good at it, and uh,

(27:33):
all right, anyway, we'll move on from that. Good luck
to the Astros, maybe we dig their grave. Be sure
to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays
at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. So fake it
till you make it now, since next week is going
to be all about the Super Bowl and Consas City
and Santa Clara Mono Ormano for the Championship of the NFL,

(27:57):
and that'll be the sole focus, I would imagine, depending
on something earth shaking that happens before next podcast, so
we will not have a lot of time to discuss
the x f L. Can the XFL make it? Because
they will be launching right after the Super Bowl in February,

(28:19):
the new eight team XFL, which is paid for by
the Sugar Daddy Vince McMahon, the Big Cheese over there
at Professional Wrestling w w E and all that, the CEO.
They begin play February eight, and they're gonna have teams.
If you haven't paid attention to this, I don't blame you.
Maybe you've got a life. But there's teams in New York,
l A, Dallas, Houston, St. Louis, Seattle, Tampa, and Washington

(28:46):
d c S. There's no team in Boston, there's no
team in Chicago. But that's that's where the XFL is
going to be. And unlike the initial edition of the XFL,
which was way back in one, which was a partnership
with NBS, see uh, they were all about being cutthroats
and violence and all that stuff and shock value, and

(29:09):
but now in these more gentle, softer times the incarnation
the XFL. Their marketing arm. They want this to be
a fan first league focused on delivery the high quality
unfield product. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
So will it work? Will the XFL succeed? Now? What

(29:31):
are the odds that the XFL last past three seasons?
Remember the first time it only lasted one year? I
have in my my closet somewhere. I gotta find it
because I should put that on on on the Graham.
I have an XFL shirt with all the helmet logos
that I got back in the day because I was like,
I'm into it, man, I like, and I gotta find

(29:54):
it's pretty cool shirt and it's held up and it
doesn't look like it's all. I haven't warned that much.
That's probably it's held up, but it's it's a treaty.
But as far as the odds, I am an amateur bookmaker,
guests gaunt. I am gonna set the odds that the
XFL will it last three seasons or past three seasons,
which would mean it has to turn some kind of profit.
I'm gonna go at plus fifteen hundred, which implies about

(30:18):
a six percent chance, about a six percent, which I
think I'm actually going high. I think I'm going high.
You know that member American Express had that commercial years
back where they know they warned that ninety percent of
start up restaurants fail in the first year. It's actually
not that high. Um, there was a study done, they said,
but it's you know, seventeen percent of restaurants with twenty

(30:40):
or less like the mom and pop places, Uh, they fail.
It's it's higher when you have twenty one or more employees.
But sports leagues, you know, how many how many startup
sports leagues have we seen here that have just come
and gone and we don't even remember them or remember
like one thing about them? Yeah, Alliance of American Football
just recently. Yeah, I mean. And and and the thing is

(31:02):
that the blue blood sports leagues have such a strangle
hold because they're in bed with the politicians. They get
exemptions from the government and whatnot, so they have a
huge competitive advantage. And also since they've been around so long,
it's generations of hearts, minds, and souls that love and
I get it, I'm part of it, that love the
NFL and follow baseball and basketball and even hockey a

(31:24):
little bit and those sports leagues. But um, the reason
I give it about a six percent chance, which I
think it's a lot, is because of Vince McMahon. Yeah,
I mean, this is one of the great marketing people
of our time. The problem, guess gon, is that the
w w E. What is the formula for the w
w E, right, what what is the secret sauce the

(31:45):
w w E is that they are staging events. Yeah,
so you can't make this like I guess you could
any of the NBA. The NBA David Stern was accused
of that back in the day that this was like hard.
You know, they were the Harlem Globetrotters. Can't really do
that in people. The jig is up in sports when
you you rigged the stuff like that. Yeah, the NFL,

(32:07):
but I mean you talk about the way that this
league has been developed, and I think McMahon has obviously
learned something from his past failures with the XFL. And also,
if you recall back then when it was originated, that
ww E was not a subscription based network as well,
So you get fans that I've alrea subscribed to w

(32:28):
w E now on a regular basis. I think no
matter where you go, whether it's on their platform or
YouTube or Twitter or Amazon, I think there's gonna be
an audience, especially because it's not directly competing with the
National Football League. It's doing so during the NFL's off season.
As a as a football guy, you are too. I

(32:49):
can't get enough football anyway. The problem with the Lines
of American Football was that not every game was on TV,
it wasn't on CBS all the time, and it was
only a handful of teams. Anyway, I think McMahon will
do something that's obviously different from the NFL, and you'll
still get players that can't compete in the National Football
League either, but that can make plays and and provide

(33:10):
some sort of entertainment, because that's exactly what this is now, right,
This is two or three hours of entertainment. It's not
always football or baseball or basketball or hockey anymore. Yeah,
I mean, the problem with these things it's a The
games have to be interesting. You watched that Alliance of
American Football and it was like they were playing in

(33:31):
a mortual way. It was very dull, and there was
nobody in the crowd. There was no excitement there was
no juice to the games at all. Be the quality
of the play like, there's gotta be. It's not gonna
be up to NFL standards because these are at NFL players, right,
These are the elite of the elite. And if you're
the elite elite, most of these guys will be in

(33:53):
the NFL. Would would have an opportunity in the NFL.
But the games have to be played at a higher
level than the A, A F or whatever the hell
was called. Um and I saw a survey of sports fans.
This is on the Morning Consoled. They conducted a survey
and what percentage, Well, I go point by point here,

(34:14):
will play a game here, what percentage of avid sports
fans are going to watch the XFL. I'm gonna say no,
I'm talking about hardcore sports fans. Two people like our
our base, our percenters that love sports radio and all that.
I'll say right around there at sixty percent say they

(34:35):
will self identified avid sports fans are gonna give the
XFL a chance during the off season. What percentage of
high school football fans are going to give it a chance?
That's how about college football? What percentage of college football
fans about how about NFL fans, guests, don't you wanna
take a swing at this? What percentage of NFL fans
say they are going to give the XFL a shot.

(34:57):
I'd no, only fifty, less than college and less than
high school. So this is weird though for me because
of what you just mentioned with the other sports like
the NBA and Major League Baseball have been successful obviously
because of what they do domestically, but I think the
international elements have been great for the NBA and also

(35:18):
Major League Baseball. You talk about players that come from
Japan or Korea or China or Puerto Rico or Cuba,
and the NBA the same thing Germany, Spain. I think
those players, I know, the leagues that they play are
not considered the elite of the elite. That doesn't mean
that we can't take the best of those best and

(35:40):
bring him here and make it our own. So I
think that's the same thing here with what we got
in the XFL. And I mean there's countless players that
have made it into the National Football League that either
have been low drafted or undrafted, and it have had
historical careers. So I think a chance, but I'm looking
for content and I'm looking for things to talk about.

(36:01):
So if there's something odd that happens, there's something interesting
that's worthy of a monologue, I'd love that. I would
love to be able to do a monologue, but it's
got to be mainstream enough where people are watching, if
no one's watching, and really, ultimately this all comes down
to television ratings. If the w w E can convince
enough of the market to watch, and they can get
advertisers and they can make a profit, and it's it's

(36:24):
going to be driven by the television community and whether
or not there's any kind of buzz on TV. And
a lot of these shows, you know, you know guests,
gun you hang out with TV people. If a show
doesn't get a high enough percentage of the ratings the
first year, it doesn't get a second year. Well we
we do know off the top already though that ratings
have been coming down for the NBA of the last

(36:44):
couple of years. Major League Baseball is a regional sport.
The NHL's a regional sport as well. So you think
about this when it happens with the XFL, it doesn't
happen at a great time for other sports content. I
mean NFL is king. They produced the highest rated shows.
What is it twenty of the best shows throughout the
year or all NFL related or college football related. So

(37:06):
I mean they dominate, but they're they're one of the
few things that they're like the last of the Mohegans
as far as what's over the air television. And you
know a lot of US cord cutters don't have access
to the to the cable and all that, so they're watching.
You don't have to have a cable to watch an
NFL game. The games are available for free, other than
the Monday Night package of course. But the other thing

(37:27):
is the the gambling element too. If you can't gamble
on these games and make some money on it. At
the gambling aspect is always gonna bring casual fans into
it because if there's action, you know, a degenerate wants
it and they'll get it. Well. You can bet on anything.
You can bet on you know who's crossing the road.
You know faster two old guys crossed the road, which
one is gonna get there first? You can bet on anything,

(37:48):
I know. But now the three things I know you
love list Gascon, You're the o G of lists. Yes,
the three things I remember about the original XFL, and
I might or might not have been on the radio
talking about it. I remember the strippers in the hot
tub at the Coliseum in l A. Remember that very much.
It was wild. They had like they brought in some strippers.
I think there were some porn stars or actresses in there.

(38:11):
Uh in the in the end zone, in the back
of the end zone. I remember he Hate Me, the
breakout star who went on and played several years in
the NFL with Carolina and some other teams there. Um.
And I also remember when I was writing for Ben
Mallory dot com, my old website, that people were outraged.
I got a special interest group that was outraged because

(38:32):
the team in Memphis was nicknamed the Maniacs, and they
said that was offensive to people that had mental illness.
Now the reason I remember that not today that would
be the norm, but back in one that wasn't how
society operated. But now everyone runs around the outrage army
is upset about everything and they want everything changed, and
everything is offensive and all that is. I think I'm

(38:53):
very proud of myself guessing and I pointed out defending
my wife's honor that the forty niners, mascots of offensive
sour dough Sam. It's offensive to people to have gluten allergies.
So it's wrong, and it's just an example of the
absurdity that takes place in these these days. You're not
other point of the x saw this. You know you're
part of that survey. You don't remember the players running

(39:14):
to the football for the I remember that too, But
that's not one of the top three. It's my list.
It's not your list. Sorry, Okay, alright, sorry, I thought
you're trying to touch up my list, Like my list
isn't good enough? Mr. List over there. Well, it's it's
really small. I'm just adding to it, all right. So
the main reason, which is very the thing that people
the most people said it's very important for them to

(39:34):
watch the most important thing when they watch the XFL.
What is top three? Give me the top three? How
about that? Top three of what they're interested in? Yeah,
like the most important things for them potential XFL fans, Uh,
the most important to the FFL does this? It's very
important to me. Um, women like cheerleaders or divas. Uh no,

(40:01):
no bad about you know. I'll give you the top
three number number three. Well, I'll give you number one
because number one is kind of obvious. Quality of play
makes the game suck. I'm not gonna want. Number two
is player's safety. I think that's bullshit. I don't think
people really care. And they say they care, but unless

(40:22):
you're a relative or a friend of the players, do
you really care. It's like people go to NASCAR Racist
to watch him crash, so you really care about you
don't you want him to die? But you know a
good head swirling hit. You take that right here, torpedo. Yeah,
we go from Aaron Hernandez to uh, Nascar and Indy
Car and car crash is great. Number Three standing for

(40:45):
the national anthem. They say that's the third most important
thing for people to watch the XFL. Now, I've I
believe you should stand for the national anthem, and I've
I've crucified Colin Kaepernick over the years and the other
of those people that followed him as followers is but
I I don't think that's you know, that's that It's

(41:05):
not gonna be a reason I don't watch. I'll just
google on him if they they don't stand for the
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All right, moving on from the XFO we have we

(41:26):
can need to go to study this guest game. I
know your time is limited. When you grab bag, why
don't grab bag actual questions? Then we'll get back to
study this. We have time. Yeah, you had some annoying people.
You had one guy that was sending an emails to
the real fifth our account, but he was doing it
from his cell phone, and what's wrong with that? People
send email from their cell phone, but it's it's like

(41:47):
it was a long string of text messages that he
was sending on email form. The luxury, though, was that
he was doing this when you were either on the
air or sleeping. So I was just like every time
I saw those delete, delete, delete, delete tell things. I
like that we have a shared email account and you
go through and delete these things, because because he was

(42:09):
really bashing the entire staff, like he was bashing your
entire staff, I'd like to read that. I don't know,
I don't think I want to. I'm about positivity here.
I know you're not. I need feedback. But this show
is not good. What are you gonna do? What are
you gonna do? Fire everybody on your staff? What are
you gonna do? Fire everybody on your staff? Well, if
I have to, if a guy on a cell phone
who's drunk sending messages overnight once that, if I must

(42:31):
appease the listeners, always right, yeah, and then you're gonna yeah.
Then you're compelled to actually talk to the rest of
your staff, which you don't like doing anyway off the air.
Um anyways, I talked to him, but they don't like
to talk to me. If they like to talk to
they wouldn't show up at ten fifty nine. But you
know the show starts at eleven or whatever. They don't
show up, baby, I don't know, half an hour early

(42:52):
or whatever. Things like that that you're asking a lot
that is too I mean, it's really difficult to have
to show up more than one minute before the show.
It's a very big, big problem. Yes, well, I guess
it depends. Did you like the fact that I denied
working with you on that Sunday night? I said, Hey,
Burr Schinger, why don't you go in there and and

(43:12):
clean things up? Well, I like because Bursching is better
than you, and it was really you had to take
one for the team guests gun because Burschinger is a talent.
I love this guy should be a full time producer
at Fox. Showed up early prepared. Whatever you need, Ben, Yes,
can I What can I do to help you? What
can I do to make the show better? I mean,
these are all things I'm not used to. So I

(43:33):
really liked Burschinger. I I thought he was great, better
than you, better than you when you produced. And I
am on team Burschinger. Keep trying, Ryan. He's a good guy,
but I don't think I don't think that his production
value or elements for anything that supersedes what I have
brought to the table much better than you. Like him.
He's got likability because he doesn't talk in the young demographic.

(43:55):
You're in the older demographics. So it's it's he got
a lot of he checks a lot of box all right,
so grab back. These are actual questions from actual listeners
of the show. Jonathan and Delaware says, what's your favorite
player coach who has never won a title in their sport?
All right, this is easy, Jonathan, Jim Tracy former Dodger,
Pirates and Rockies manager Jim Tracy. I love the guy.

(44:20):
Befriended him when he was a coach with the Dodgers
and then he became the manager. And Jim was very
nice to me back in the day, and we had
a good relationship and we occasionally even go out and
have a meal on the road and whatnot. But he
he when he was managing the Privates, he got let
go and I ran into him after he had managed
the Pirates, and he still owned his house in Pittsburgh,

(44:42):
and he said, hey, Ben, if you go through Pittsburgh,
you can stay at my house. I'm not there anymore.
He stayed his old house in Pittsburgh. I thought it
was kind of cool, which was probably a mansion out
in the suburbs. My answers, Jim Tracy, you didn't have
I'm surprised you didn't have a listener to fly you
out there and stay there for free. I would have
been impressive. Done. Yeah, I'm done, shocked you got any

(45:04):
peanut butter or just jelly. God, let's see what you
did there. I think my favorite is uh has got
to be Andy Reid, just because of what he went
through in Philadelphia, and I know he's obviously had some
some tough times of his family, but I think everything's
coming to fruition in Kansas City. And he created a
winner in Philadelphia, got booted from there. He's created a

(45:27):
winner in Kansas City, and he's obviously brought them to
the peak of of the Mountain and obviously one hurdle
to go, but the first time they've been in the
Big Dance and what fifty years, So I think it's
great for the game. He's a great play caller, he's
a good motivator, and he's built winners everything. Everywhere he's gone,
he's been successful. I think him Jim Harbaugh obviously now

(45:48):
in Michigan. But those are two guys that are amongst
my favorites that have not won at the highest level yet. Wow.
I mean mine's better than yours. My mind is better
than yours. Idn't know these guys. Yeah, I A Lugo
from Lancaster, California, the High Desert says, Ben, what are
you going to do a live streaming show? I would
love to see the Gang live. Yes, what are we

(46:11):
doing a live show? Well, I'm glad that he asked
you that, and not me, because the real answer would
be coming for me is that every single week I
text you in the morning and that night and I say, hey,
dom favorite, where something decent or professional or at least
somewhat upright and not wrinkled. Because I like to stream

(46:31):
something or at least put something up digitally that has
us on there to promote second video, it's not thirty
seconds to show up, like like local radio when you
go to a sports bar restaurant and you have a show,
a live broadcast recording streaming the show live from some location. Well,

(46:54):
you know, I think that's another great way that you
can word that. And um, I'll say that it's in
progress right now, we're working on it. I have been
doing a lot of the heavy lifting. I have been
detracted by you to do some of the things that
I have done already. And um, we'll wait and see.
But something could be in the mix. And um, okay

(47:16):
depends from the LBC says, I don't believe you, Lou
From the LBC says for you both, you guys grew
up or lived in southern California for a long time.
Have you ever seen or have you ever been to
the beach and seen an animal wash up on shore.
Order seeing a wild animal roaming the streets, such as
a mountain lion or a coyote, etcetera, etcetera, a bear

(47:39):
or whatever. Well, Lou, I'll go first. I have back
in my hiking days. I don't really do that much more.
I go to the gym and just go to the
treadmill and watch TV for an hour and a half
or whatever. But back in the day when I would
would go out and hikes around Los Angeles and the
suburbs in the mountains around l A, I did see
coyotes a couple of times, but I didn't get scared
because I I feel like I'm so much bigger. I

(48:01):
know they have they're a pack. They attack as a
pack and through like three or four coyotes. I'd be
really screwed I saw one lone coyote wandering around. I've
never seen a mountain lion or a bear. I would
I'm chipped my pants if I saw a bear mountain
lion I was out hiking in the woods, I'd be
really just yeah, that would not be good. And I
have seen several um animals wash ashore like seals. Uh

(48:25):
in California, and I was in Hawaii and there was
a seal that washed up on shore and they they
put ropes. It's weird are they do in Hawaii? They do?
They put ropes around it and they put a sign up,
do not touch, you know, animal whatever is sick, dying, whatever,
and you just have to like stand afar, you know,
stand back and look. So I I have seen coyotes,
and I have seen animals wash up on shore. Never

(48:45):
like a giant whale, though I know that happened. Sometimes
I haven't seen that. Yeah, I have not seen that. Um.
But to answer the second part of that question, I have. Um,
I have seen wildlife in the areas that I live in.
And great story, I know you'll enjoy this. But a
buddy of mine and I were out one night and

(49:06):
and met a couple of females um up in like
Los Angeles. Was Billy No West side of your friends,
Billy quit name dropping. He's the only one I know.
I didn't say his last name. His name is Billy. Anyways,
So we turned out to meet a couple of women
and one of them was actually she was from Rolling Hills,

(49:27):
which is on the back side of Palace forties down
on the coast, and at the end of the night
she invited us back to her place. Well, I wasn't
feeling one of the girls that we were there with,
but my buddy like the girl that lived in rolling Hills.
So I said, hey, I gotta balance, I gotta work
in the morning. Any anyway, have at it and see

(49:47):
what see what happens at the rest of this night.
Really good. I got him in the door. He was like,
he's an introverts. I got him in the door. I
did my job, took off anyways, So I took off
and ben at kids. You not because usually when I'm
at Fox, I gotta be up at like seven or
eight o'clock in the morning. I had a laundry list
of text messages at like three, four or five o'clock

(50:09):
of the morning. And my buddy asking for help because
he was walking down Hawthorne Boulevard and a couple of
other streets and rolling hills and he can hear and
then see coyotes, and he tried getting an uber and
a lift, and nobody would come pick him up because
obviously it's rolling hills and where he needed to go

(50:31):
was probably like five miles away, maybe six so he
had a he was walking home from a strikeout kind
of a night and he was around coyotes all evening
long until the early morningtime. So it was it was
pretty awesome. So yeah, even up in Rolling Hills you
got coyotes. Alright. Uh, this one's from James and Zephyr

(50:53):
Hills Floorida. I believe that's how you say it. He says,
Why is gag On so hostile towards you? Bet well
I can answer that James jealousy is the main driving
force of David Giscon's animosity towards myself. What am I
to be jealous about? The empire? The Mallard militia. Will

(51:15):
you take pot shots of the Mallew militia? No, I don't.
There's no gag On gang. There's none of that. You
don't have not have a following. Well, there's people chanting
my name up in the Pacific Northwest at my direction,
thanks to Ms Wilkin Christina. Actually they started. I didn't
even have to tell him to do it, they just did.
The maturity level of you and them speaks volumes um.

(51:37):
There's nothing I need to be jealous about. Well, why
are you acting this way like a child. I'm not
what are you talking about. I I applaud you for
all of your hard work, stacks of paper that you
burn and waste throughout the middle of the night, um,
your dedication to your staff. How how much of an
extrovert you are for marketing and branding? Uh I am.

(52:00):
I am an introvert that, when needed, will be an extrovert. Well,
I I applaud your wife for those efforts because it's
not on you. My wife is much bet more. Yeah,
my wife is better at that the end than than
I am. Yeah, that's that's not saying a whole lot.
Because I could take her with me whenever we meet.
She has to take you out because I say, hey,
mrs we have to go to this event, and she

(52:22):
says why and I'll say, okay. She's like, it's gonna
be tough to convince Ben, but I'll try. Wow, I'm
open minded. I have things to do, though, I'm gonna
a lot of these questions. We have too much time,
so I'm gonna get some more questions here. Uh, let's
he here. This is from Christie in Trevor's wife, Finally
in Nashville, Finally, a female Trevor Hayes's wife in Nashville.

(52:44):
Why does my husband wake me up listening to you guys?
Christie has to say. I'm sure she's referencing the radio show,
not this podcast, but I'm hopefully Trevor listens to the podcast. Well, Christie,
if you hear this, the reason that your husband, Trevor
wakes you up for the podcast is because he's a
smart that's number one. B. He is a discerning audio

(53:06):
content listener. That's number two, and uh number three, he's
probably uber successful in life. And if he's not uber
successful in life, he's about to become uber successful in life.
Those are all the qualities of the average listener that
wakes up their wife to hear the show. Period. Stop,

(53:29):
are you done? Well? You want me to go on?
All right? Here's Darryl. Darryl from Southern Illinois. He writes
in he says, what has been the most exciting moment
of your radio program? He says, enjoy listening to you
from beautiful southern Illinois, where we are the hub of

(53:50):
the universe. According to Darryl, Well, Darryl, I don't stop
and smell the roses. I at some point I would
like to write a book. I tried to write a
book a couple of years ago. I talked to a
couple of writers and they were not that interested. So
at some point I'll write a book. I think it
will be fun to tell some of the old stories,
but I don't really sit back and think about it.
We've had a lot of crazy things that have taken place,

(54:11):
depending on what you like. Dispats with shots, the war
with William Shatner, which the pop culture icon. People like
that a lot. The Uh one time I wore a
paper bag during the entire show after the Clippers lost
to the Cleveland when they were terrible. Uh. We've done
some dopey things. We've had some fun things with listeners

(54:32):
and callers and whatnot. But I have not summed it
up in like a top three moments in the history
of the show. But if I haven't write a book,
or I choose to write a book, I will do that.
Brian from north Bridge, Massachusetts rights in can you please
ask Gascon to quit the show? Gascon? Will you please
quit the show? How am I gonna quit if I'm
not getting paid for It's a fair point. You got

(54:54):
a point, Glenn writes and says did weed Man Hippy
quit your radio show again. Yes, Glenn we Man did
not make it through January. He's already had a hissy
fit and he's upset that I did not give him
enough a lot of airtime. He's like a politician that
needed a lot of airtime. I'd be willing to trade
weed Man Hippie for Chris and Houston because you don't

(55:16):
like Chris and Hughes. He's just an ankle grabber. Wow,
he's weak sauce. Really, Yes, he's embarrassing about ankle grabbing.
He's exhibit A. He's exhibit A. Yeah. The term screw
the pooch is a guest on term. Can we get
more interaction with the female audience. I know that you

(55:38):
don't like to look upon them lightly and you ignore them.
Let me help you out that the sports audio, sports radio,
sports podcasting is a male driven vehicle. I'll teach you
about this because you know it's podcasting radio one on one.
The lion share of the listeners are dudes, who are
many of them trying to get away from their wives

(55:59):
and girlfriends and just kind of reminisce and just be
sports fans or or just bullshit fans. Uh, those kind
of people. Here's one battle Royale. I don't know who
sent this one in. Who would win between Ben, Eddie, Cooper,
Roberto or guest Gone. Now I'll answer this. I would
obviously win because I would physically man handle the Coop
would have no chance. I would throw him away like

(56:20):
a used tissue. Roberto if liquored up. I know Roberto
is an angry guy when he gets licked up, but
he's like the sweetest guy in the world when he's
not right. If Roberto's looking up, he could probably kick
my ass. But he's not most of the time, so
I could take him down. Eddie wouldn't be that interested
in fighting, so I could take him and Guesscon's he's
a fake tough guy. So I would beat all these guys. Yeah,

(56:43):
I'm an agreement with could you have Could you imagine Roberto?
Roberto would be fighting himself if it was silver versus drunk,
that would be great. Yeah, that would be pretty good. Uh,
here's another version of that. Clay Travis, Dan, Patrick, Colin Coward,
Doug gott Lee, R J Bell, Jonas Knocks, Chris Brussard,
Rob Parker, Jason Smith, and Mike Harmon and you are

(57:07):
in a battle Royale style fight band who wins? This
is from Ethan in Detroit who sent that one. Well,
let's go point by point here. Uh see, if I
don't know much about r J. I I've talked to
I've never met him in person. I was supposed to
meet him with Tom Looney blocked our lunch meet meeting
great years ago. So I've never met r J in person.

(57:29):
I've met everyone else there. Travis, and I met Dan Patrick,
but Dan is old at this point. I'm like Dan
would cause much of a fight there. Jason, he's a
peace Nick Harmon's a good guy, but he's not a fighter,
although he's a little bull if he wanted to fight.
And then like guys like Coward and Clay Travis, you
know their TV guys and Gottlieve. You know, when you

(57:52):
can do enough of that TV, you get a little
soft there as far as your fisticuffs. Yeah, so and
Broussard very this guy was sorry, he's not gonna fight.
He's not a fighter. No, So it would really come
down to me, Jonas Knox and Rob Parker. Yeah, and
that would be the top three out of that list

(58:13):
in the battle Royale and we'd have to fight to
the death. Well, yeah, but Jonas is younger, more energetic.
Um yeah, but he's into like manscaping a little bit
and and all that. So you know that takes away
from your fighting skills and you're worried about your hair. Yeah,
but he's got tremendous cardio. He's in good shape. He's

(58:34):
also tactical. Um yeah, this would be Jonas in the landslide,
and you're probably just sit in a corner wait for
you guys all to try to tire out and then
take you guys all out one by one. See what
you don't understand is well, I might look off and
disheveled and unkept at the radio station because I'm doing
an overnight radio show. Uh I cleaned up pretty good

(58:55):
when I want to, and I I can turn in
two russa if I want. This is nauseating. Are we
done yet? Uh no, We're We're not doing Let's see here.
Some of these are like real hard o sports questions.
I don't know if I want to do any of those.
Is there anything from Doc Mike the doc about doctor Ecuador?

(59:16):
He doesn't say anything. Let's do a couple of study
this questions, how about this, here's a pool, what out
of ten parents, how many on average field teenagers spend
too much time on video games? Nine? Nine in ten parents.
It's nine in ten parents feel that their teams spend
too much time on video games. And yeah, I mean

(59:38):
that's of course. I think they should be doing studying
or something like that. All right, here we go. Americans
are now averaging less than blank hours of sleep per night.
What do you think? Guess I'm gonna say they're averaging
less than five hours of sleep per night. Not that
low yet, but less than six hours of sleep per night?

(01:00:00):
Is that real or bullshit? I think that's real. I
get less than six hours of sleep. Yeah, I think
so too. People are consumed by work, entertainment, um, travel,
multiple jobs. That comes into play as well. The stress. Yeah,
I think I think less than six is is easily attainable. Yeah. Absolutely,

(01:00:21):
it's tired nation, tired nation. All right, let's see here,
here's the study. This is interesting games. You know, I
am on the dance floor. Oh my god, tell you something.
My wife won't let me dance because all the women
they're trying to hang out with me. That's a true story.
So that's why I choose not to dance. But there's
a study out that says your dancing style is as

(01:00:45):
unique as your fingerprint, that gas guard, that each individual
has their own unique dancing moves. You're buying that. Uh No,
I'm not buying that because a lot of how people
dance is either based on alcohol or what they see

(01:01:06):
and what they mimic. Some of the choreographed because they
can't dance on their own, they have no rhythm. So no,
I'm not buying that. According to the research team, regardless
of the type of music, from jazz to reggae, the
studies said the vast majority of people maintain a uniform
uniqueness to their dancing style. It's this ever present personality

(01:01:28):
in each of our dance moves that makes it easy
for computers to I d the dancer. So this is
a research from the University of blah blah blah blah
blah in Finland. It's say this, say this university's name
is j y v A s k y l A.
I'd rather not exactly. That's why I said the University

(01:01:50):
of blah blah blah blah blah. Whatever I said. So
that's it's interesting. I don't know. I don't pay attention
to dancing that much. You know what I'm saying. All
right now, this is a story warms my heart. And
uh I, let's see how close you get to being
right on this. We're doing a few study this questions
on the fifth hour. But a new study found that

(01:02:12):
blank percentage of Americans have never deleted anything from their devices.
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say this number is high.
I'm gonna say it's no, that's too high. You went
too high. But according to the survey, fifty two percent

(01:02:35):
of Americans have never deleted anything from their their devices.
No house cleaning, no spring cleaning, none of that stuff.
Yeah's to luxtually you get if you go incognito mode.
Though I was, I right, you do the incognito. I
don't delete anything on my devices, but I have been
forced to recently delete emails because my my main Gmail account,

(01:02:58):
which I use, I got up to like I'm at
over I think I was over seventy five thousand emails.
I'm at sixty five thousand, like unready emails because I
get a lot of email from pr people I don't
even open and and whatnot. So but once it started
filling up, I was running out of space, so I
had to start the leading some email wait from PR people.

(01:03:21):
Well yeah, when I ran a website, they would always
try to horror whole out, you know, some product or
some person for an interview when I ran the website.
So and I once you end up on those lists,
you very rarely go off list. I'm still getting emails
from NASCAR because I had to do a NASCAR rumor
page when I worked for Fox Sports dot Com. I'm

(01:03:41):
still getting email during NASCAR season a couple of weeks
updating me on what the drivers are doing this weekend
and PR events and all that stuff. NASCAR rumor board
for you. Oh yeah, Fox had a Nascar and I
was the rumor guy, and they had to come up
with a NASCAR rumor page. That's pretty impressive. I pulled
it off. I pulled it off for a couple of years,

(01:04:04):
and don't ask me to do it right now. But
it was a lot of rumors about like drivers changing
sponsors or drivers changing teams and that kind of stuff. Yeah,
I mean it wasn't your true you know, it's obviously
it's NASCAR, so they're NASCAR specific. But yeah, I pulled
that off for a while. Let's see what else looks
interesting here. Oh, this is kind of cool. This is

(01:04:25):
the dream. This is like out of you throw back
to the like cartoon days or the movies. There's a
group of scientists at the University of Michigan who think
they have invented a pill that gives you the same
benefits as working out. How great is that you don't

(01:04:46):
have to work out? Get just take the pill, it says.
If it works, obviously this would be amazing. But can
you continue to live the sedentary lifestyle and just take
a pill? And and and that's it? But they discovered
that the protein that mimics the effects of working out.

(01:05:07):
This is a University of Michigan study. And so you
could avoid the gym. I'd save so much time. I
spent a lot of time during the week at the gym.
I wish I didn't have to spend it. Why would
you want to do that? Because it's easier. I'd have
more free time, I could do other things. I can
maybe sleep more. Right, you have plenty of time throughout
the day to sleep. There's something about going to the gym.

(01:05:30):
It's like it's like going to school as opposed to
learning and your education online. There's something different about your
curriculum at school with a professor and other students and classmates.
The same thing with the gym, like the extra monivations.
Terrible people are animals. They shipped all over the bathroom,
they piss all over the bathroom. It's a fucking nightmare.

(01:05:50):
And morning it's a lot of retirees and older people
and they walk around there. They apparently think towels are
optional in the locker room. They are, and it's disgusting.
And then but then if you go to the gym
like in Primetime where the good looking people, the young
people are, then it's a bunch of meat head guys
walking around flexing, looking at the mirror. And I don't

(01:06:11):
need to see that either. You need to go to
a better gym. Well, sign me up. I go to
a very affordable gym that's open all night long, because
I go to the gym in the wee hours of
the morning. A lot of these gyms are foul foul.
They only open at a certain time, which is not
friendly with my schedule. Yeah, I go to a gym
that's open twenty four hours a day. So I don't
have a problem with that. Well I do too, but

(01:06:33):
it's the one I go to. The neighborhood gym, is
not that it's not that great. You're lazy, don't be lazy.
Don't take a damn pill. There's everything days five days
a week, four or five days a week lazy. But
you're not working out hard heart, are you? And now
you want to take a pill and take that all
away from you? Of course, when you burn baby burns
this team burnie. Now wow, all right, moving on Mr

(01:06:57):
Political over there. There's a new survey that has determined
out of out of an average of five adults, how
many how many feel too exhausted to go out, to
go cook dinner, even have sex any of that stuff?
Out of how many people, like, on average, out of

(01:07:18):
like five, like, out of five adults, how many have
actually seen a doctor because they feel too exhausted to
do pretty much anything? Four out of five? E think
four out of five adults have seen a doctor because
they're too tired to go out, cooked dinner or have sex.
No one, one out of five, But that's still a

(01:07:42):
pretty high percentage. Well, I think four out of five
probably should yeah, but a lot of people don't. We're
gonna try to avoid doctor. I try to avoid doctors.
I think most people try to avoid doctors because they'll
find something wrong with it. We we work with a
lot of unhealthy people. Like the industry itself demands that
you don't take a lot of time off of work
because if you do, then someone else has taken your spot. Right, Yeah,

(01:08:05):
you gotta hold your place in line. If you get
out of line, somebody to the back of the line. Yeah.
And the other thing too is obviously you know your
shows four hours long and then in prepping, so your
sleep patterns are different, the diets different, the stress levels
are different. That goes for a lot of people that
work here working a lot of other places to entertainment, law, medicine.

(01:08:28):
Does that explain, guest on why I have been to
so many funerals of colleagues of mine and radio this
is what three weeks in a rail we're gonna do
death talk podcast if you want. The Russian Orthodox had
funeral a Mormon funeral And what was the last one?
Russian Orthodox? What's that in the Russian Orthodox? I did
to the Russian Orthodox? I did that last time? Yeah?

(01:08:50):
And you need a twenty one gun salute. Now, yeah,
I've not done in the military funeral. Yeah, I have
not been at a military although my uncle was in
the military. Did have the American flag over his casket
when he was laid in in the ground. There no
death talka and uh it happened a few where they
had well actually, no, you know, technically, I have been

(01:09:12):
to a funeral where they did have the military presence,
and they did they did. They did a bugle. They
didn't do the guns, but they did the bugle salute. Yeah,
speaking of which, I forgot about that. I've been to
so many funerals I've I've forgotten some of them. Here's
one more study. A new study finds you're likely to
be the most miserable at age blank. Um, I think

(01:09:35):
I saw this. I think I did. I think so
aged fifty close forty seven, According to a recent study,
that is the worst age to be This is from
Dartmouth College. Dartmouth College and a midlife crisis and all that,

(01:09:58):
but they determined that the p of your life's misery
arrives around at the age of forty seven. So why
would that be Well, because you realize you're closer to
the end than you are to the beginning. And uh,
and you've had people starting to die, your your relatives
get older and have issues and all. That's why I
would think that would be the bad age, right, Yeah,

(01:10:19):
And I think we'll see you're you're close to that number. Um,
I think could could your wife and I make plans
for your midlife crisis, Like I'd like to be around
for that. I think that would be important. Once you
hit forty seven and you start going delusional and you
hit that low point like we need to be there
for you. Well, you're not there for me. Now, why

(01:10:42):
would you be there for me? Then he's not there
for me. I'm here right now. You're causing me more
heartburning ache. The reason my gall letder gave out was
because of you. That's a lie. That was from all
your that was from all your wrong doing in your
early twenties. As you admit, you pushed me over the cliff.
You were the one they're stay, You're like, all right,

(01:11:04):
here you go. You know, I was the guy on
top of the bridge that didn't want to jump. You know,
they do the bungee jump, and you're the guy that
pushed me off the bridge. Let's do that though, when
you hit forty seven, bungee jump or skydiving or even parasailing,
how about that? I'm good. I don't need to have
you done. Have you skydive? No? Never? Why not? Pussy?
Why not go do it? Come on? What's wrong with you?

(01:11:26):
I'm not a big fan of hyas. You're pussy willow. Anyway,
last last study this, and we have time, we get
some of the other stuff. But the last study is,
are you on a diet? Gas gun? I don't want
to say a strict diet, but I am. I am
observing of what I eat. Okay. So there's a new
study out that said, the average adult in their lifetime,

(01:11:48):
we'll try blank number of different diets. Seven. You think
the average adult will try seven diets in their life?
Poor you? Are you terrible at this? But that's fucking horrific.
I'm sorry to the people in the Bible belt. That's terrible.
Why put into a new study the average adult will

(01:12:08):
try an unbelievable one hundred and twenty six diets over
the course of their life. I couldn't even name a
hundred twenty six diets. They estimate that means at least
two new diets each year, he will, well, there's fat.
I'm on a suddenly a diet. It's a lifestyle with
intermitute fast. That's not dieting though, but it is dieting

(01:12:31):
because I don't I cut down on my calories, because
I don't eat. You know, several days a week, I
will not eat. It's intermittent fast. Okay, So intermittent fasting fasting,
a ketto diet, a vegan diet, a vegetarian diet. What
other diets are there? Well, according to this, they say
the interminute fasting was the most popular, but something called

(01:12:53):
the cabbage soup diet. I don't know what the hell
that isketo diet, a juice ends diet. But then you've
got all like the weight watchers and the other diets
that are out there. You've got the gluten free diet,
You've got that, You've got the vegans diets, the different

(01:13:13):
levels of vegan diets that you can get, vegetarian diets, pescetarian.
There's a lot of different things you can try. Jee. Yeah,
that's amazing. I've tried a lot, but I don't think
I'll get to a hundred and twenties. So I feel
like I've I've reached my zen. Like with the intermittent fasting,
it's really worked well for me. Like before when I
lost the weight, I just ate like one meal a day,

(01:13:36):
which is kind of intermittent fasting. Um, but I had,
you know, I was. There were reasons that I was
able to lose the weight so so quickly. Anyway, right,
do we have any grab Do we have any we
didn't grab bag? Don't stick to sports stories in the week?
Do we have any of them? And this kind of
goes on the heels of study this, But how about this.
Fewer than half of American adults know how many Jews
were killed in the Holocaust. Are you surprised by this? Uh?

(01:14:02):
Well he got he talking about the entire world here
or what are we talking American adults? So, according to
a survey published by the International Holocaust Remembrance Day on January,
set of people that were asked, I knew that approximately
six million Jews were killed during the Holocaust. Yeah, I

(01:14:23):
mean it sucks. I I'm not shocked by that because
there's a lot of younger people that don't pay attention
to that kind of stuff. There's also some knuckleheads that
there's still the people I didn't happen. The Holocaust didn't happen,
You know those people you've been to out. So I went.
Three years ago a buddy of mine got married. He's
he went to medical school in Poland and his his

(01:14:44):
wife is Polish, but he was living um in Ireland.
So we did a bachelor party and a wedding on
the same trip as a fourteen day trip, and we
started off in Berlin, but then we that was for
the bachelor party, but then a bunch of guys and
girls then got together and we took a trip down
to Auschwitz and broken Now and Ben, I mean, you

(01:15:06):
could read about this stuff until you're blew in the
face and hear about it, but not until you get
there do you understand the gravity of what these people
and what countries had gone through. Because it was just
jaw dropping I'm talking about. There were specific areas in
the museums were hair, nail clippings, glasses, shoes was all preserved,

(01:15:33):
and the skulls and stuff. Yes, I mean they brought
you into the into the shower room, which is just
chilling because it looked like a regular old school locker room,
just nothing but brick and these small holes from the
rooftop and obviously that's where everything was sprayed down to
to these people, the hospital which was basically a rack

(01:15:55):
room and torture center where they would torture these people,
revived them, them, torture them again. Um. And it was
just amazing when you got there because there was just
a beautiful, beautiful path of nature, just grass, trees and
a railroad track, and it looked like you were going
somewhere in a fairy tale. And then all of a

(01:16:16):
sudden you get to where you are and you were
segregated between men, women and kids, and you were led
to your demise. And so when you got there and
people were talking on the buses once they got there,
you did not hear a soul talk at all. You
just you just soaked it all in because yeah, it
just obviously they were been there at some point. Maybe

(01:16:37):
maybe we'll end up when I get older and I
travel when my wife when seven, when I gravel the Europe.
But I remember when I was a kid, you know,
growing up as a Jewish kid, and they had the
bar mitz and that whole thing. And then I recall
when I was at. I was at somebody else's either
was a bar mitz for a wedding. A very vague
memory of where I was, but I know it was

(01:16:58):
it a family functions somewhere in l A. And I
was dragged over as a little kid to look at
one of my relatives tattoo from from the death camps.
There they tattooed you. When you went in there and
you put in, they put like a number on you.
And I still remember his old frail, his old dude,

(01:17:21):
and he pulled up his arms sleeve and there there
it was, right there there was the tattoo from the
death camp that that he had as a kid. I
still it's one of those memories and a few things
I remember when I was a kid, but that's one
thing I remember back in the day. Well that's very uplifting. Gascout.
What else do we have to sports stories of the week.
So we got the impeachment that's going on right now,

(01:17:42):
Senators gotta have a couple of rules that are implemented.
Obviously language what they're uh bringing in, what they're not,
But they're also there's rules right now prohibiting food and
drink on the floor. So under the certain rules right now, Ben,
they're only allowed water and or milk, and also a
little bit of candy. So this this actually goes back

(01:18:03):
to nineteen sixties six, which centate rules do not prohibit
a center from sipping milk during his speech. So earlier
this week, Adam Shipp was drinking water. He took a
quick pause during his thirty thousand word um opening monologue
to drink a little bit of water. Um. So so
these guys are they're they're stuck obviously, And I know

(01:18:27):
was it I think it was Tuesday. They had their
opening um statements that went until about one or two
o'clock in the morning. So yeah, well the candy, here's what.
You don't do the milk because you know, you might
have to go to the bathroom. I drink the water
and do the candy. Now, I remember I did television
very briefly at the NBC Sports Network years ago. We
were in in Stanford, Connecticut, and and I'd fly back

(01:18:50):
like a week a month or whatever, uh, and I
would be on the late shift. You know, it would
end we'd have to wait for the West Coast games
to end, so we would get off the television and
when we're done with the show. We had to touch
up what we've done earlier. And so we got out
of there like at two in the morning, and for
those people who are day people, it was very odd
to have to step late and so but they had

(01:19:12):
like these little bowls of candy all over the green
room and the production rooms and all that. And I
remember asking one of the senior producers at NBC, I said,
why the why the fuck everyone? This is like my dream.
And I had lost a lot of weight before I
did that. I was like, you know, I'm a recovering
fat guy. It's not good for me to be around
piles of candy everywhere I turned, and and he told me,

(01:19:34):
he said, well, we do that because we're on late
and you know, the sugar keeps people awake. So that's
why we have these little mini candy bars all over
the place because it's good for you know, it's good
for you to kind of give you some extra energy. There.
That's like perfect, that's perfect, like a Vegas casino, right
or you have no clocks. The the ceilings are are
bright or or vibrant, comfortable colors, plenty of lighting, the

(01:19:56):
oxygen and of course, uh little snacks and alcohol or
are distributed once the players are are playing on the tables. Yeah,
they do it right, They absolutely do it right. All right?
And what else do we got? That is it? We're
getting kicked out of here, at least I'm getting killed here. Yeah.
I got a couple of stories. They're not great stories.
It's death talk, impeachment talk. And about that furry story.
You didn't mention that one? What about Well there's another one.

(01:20:19):
Did you hear about this? A man was killed by
blade wielding rooster during an illegal cock fight. So he
was killed by a cock? Is that what you're saying? Yes? Uh,
this was a couple of weeks ago. It was an
illegal cock fight. Have you ever been to a like
a dog fight or or a cock fight or um

(01:20:39):
anything down south of Mexico? I have not, I understand.
I had a friend that was at a hotel in
Mexico and said that they had in the you know,
the pamphlet at the hotel and things to do. Yeah,
they had like cock fighting on the little pamphlet. This
is years ago. I don't know if they still do so. Yeah.
So this took place ben in India, and what happened
was the birds. They have razor blades that are tied

(01:21:03):
to their limbs and their placed in the in the
ring where they obviously fight until you know one's left standing.
And um, when things got underway, one of the roosters
escapes kicked out and actually wounded this older man like
fifty five years of age and wounded have been the
stomach and eventually killed them. So it's pretty dark. I

(01:21:26):
knew we weren't gonna do death talk, and now here
we are. You're very ghoulish person. These stories just right themselves.
I remembered remember the kids eating tide pods? Who could
forget one of my favorite stories? Who loves teenage anything? Yeah? Well,
I guess there's a trend now on a new app

(01:21:46):
called TikTok which men are apparently dipping their their cranks
into a cup of soy sauce because apparently um men's
genitalia have um taste buds. So that is a that
is a trending topic on an app called TikTok, And

(01:22:08):
I know you can enjoy that. Well, I I think
you should probably save that for your grinder. Pie. I
don't know study this bling? Wow, can we put a
ball on this thing. We got five stars since September,
so yeah, we need to keep that up. Tell a

(01:22:30):
friend seriously, that'll help us out a lot. I mean,
maybe we'll actually get paid for this if they get
the numbers up even higher. And all it tasts if
you get one person that wasn't listening to download the podcast,
and all you have to do is listen for a minute.
One minute. That's it. We get credit for one minute
of your time. So tell the people if they don't
even like to show, just to listen for a minute
and move on to the next podcast. We get credit

(01:22:51):
for it. That's all it takes. But listen. Have a
great weekend, a football free weekend. I don't count the
Pro Bowl, and next week are Super Bowl. Any versus
the penny, we'll have that and whatever else pops up.
We'll have a great weekend and we'll catch you next time.