Super Sized Quarantine

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
If you thought four hours a day, minutes a week
was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants of
the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He treats
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break Free or something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben

(00:24):
Maller starts right now. That it does, and no coronavirus
pandemic is gonna stop a podcast. I mean, please, I
know where the crossroads apparently in the sporting world, but
it has been a wild week. It has really been
Mr Toad's wild right. But we are here to enlighten you.

(00:45):
And we figured since there are no sports going on,
uh and it will not be going on, we we
can in this podcast. Let's be honest. We were ahead
of the curb on this because we have not really
talked much sports ever since this thing launched, other than
Benny versus the Penny, where we were breakdown NFL games.
So we we've now we we were ahead of the

(01:06):
turning point of society where everything's on hold, it appears
for at least a month, and everyone's walking on eggshells
right now. Trying to figure out what to do, and so, uh,
we're gonna do something a little different on this podcast. Unfortunately,
the the illness is not caused. Yes, gone to call
in sick. He is still here, fully operational, Ben Maller, Yes,

(01:29):
fully operational. We were we were immunized, right, I mean
that's kind of what I went down to you right
when we bust this thing open in September. Well, we're
not really any think about it. We're not real. We
live in the magic radio box or podcast box, so
we're not really real. People, were just figments of your
imagination as a listener. So we really have nothing to

(01:53):
worry about, nothing to worry But but my goodness, guest,
gun I used to have nightmares when I was growing up,
you know, in the business I started when I was nineteen,
and I was like, I would have like these what
what happens if there was no sports? And um, what
would I talk about? And uh, and here we go.
We will find out over the next month what is

(02:14):
going to happen? Hoot thickens. How is this any different though,
from when we get into the dog days of summer
or there's only Major League Baseball going on? Well, it's
much different. I'll tell you why. Number one, we are
looking ahead. There's there's other drama involved with you know,
plots in the story about in summer in June, for example,

(02:37):
which everyone bitches about in sports radio, the industrial complex
of sports radio. They complain about June. But in June,
we're about a month away from training camp. We're about
a month away. There's that second wave of free agency
in the NFL, which carries the conversation. You also have
the NBA Draft to the finals, have ended the drafts
right around that time. Then you're looking ahead to be

(03:00):
a free agency. Like I used to have a program
director and we would go over the sports count. It's
like everything is kind of choreographed, like through thirtain certain
periods of the year. Now, yeah, there's not as much
meat on the bone. It's like getting in June. It's
like getting a chicken wing where there's just a little
bit of meat on the bone. But yeah, I mean,
I I guess it's the The comp would be if

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you look at this like real estate. Number two, the
comp would be nine eleven. And I was on the
radio back then and we did shows and Fox Sports
Radio kept moving on. But the sports world in September
of one, there was no NFL. For a brief period

(03:43):
of time, there was no um Major League Baseball. But
it didn't I don't think it didn't last a month.
I think it was maybe a week or a couple
of weeks, and then everything kind of moved back. But this,
this appears, by all indications we're getting as we were
recording this podcast, it looks like it's going at last

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at least a month now. Now for the sake of
the for the sake of continuity, Ben, since you have
you had developed a certain NFL book them uh topic
throughout the course of the calendar year in the National
Football League, will we have anything or will you have
anything that showcase with an NBA quarantine book them? You know,

(04:27):
I was actually thinking about since the n c A tournament.
I don't know if I should give this out right now,
and maybe by the time you hear this, I will
have already used this on the radio. Probably not, but
I was thinking about doing a bracket of deadly plagues,
right like where where would the coronavirus? Would it be
a one seed or a two seed? We don't know.

(04:48):
I would say it's probably like a ten seed right now.
The coronavirus um you gotta put as your number one seeds.
The bubonic play, that's gotta be number one. UM, Spanish
flu famous, that's always a good one. Typhoid fever um,
you could put that on there. Uh, you know, any

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scarlet fever, black plague would be a number one seed.
I would think H one N one, Yes, a sars ebowl. Uh.
Some of the more modern how about West Nile where
does what the hell do you do with the West
Nile virus? Where do you put the West now by?
What about the African swine fever? What do you do

(05:32):
with that? What about hepatitis? That's a good one, that
is a that is I mean, so listen, I mean
there's a lot if you if I would have put
this together, I mean, you go down the list there.
What about just the momps? You know? Does that smallpox?
Basic smallpox? Uh, there's a lot that has to go
into this. I gotta go in and meet with people.
And because you know, not every pandemic is the same. Yeah,

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they're not all equal. So so you put it at
high as ten. But consider the fact of how our
n C double A brackets typically are you wouldn't slot
the one virus as a twelve. You would have put
it as a live dog anywhere I would put it
in as a ten. Yes, um, because people have moved

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past the stage of reasonability. So you gotta when you
put the bracket together, guess on the deadly plagues bracket,
and you've got a really factor in uh public perception.
It's like it's kind of like how the Lakers every
year when they have a decent team or the favorites
to win the championship, not out of Vegas, not necessarily

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because the Lakers are actually going to win, but it's
because of liability. And there's a lot of dummies that
like the Lakers that bet in Vegas on the Lakers.
So it's a way to cover themselves in case the
Lakers end up winning. And so when you put the
bracket together, you have to factor in. Listen, if I
if I put the coronavirus is a ten and then

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I have malaria as a twelve, well you know I'm
covering myself because malaria is not as popular as the coronavirus.
More people are gonna bet on the coronavirus because that's
what's going on right now so, and then at the
you know, at the bottom, you can go to like
the very regional biblical plagues, the swarms of locusts right

(07:23):
from the Bible. You can put that in there. Boom done,
And they still have swarms of locust though. That's crazy
to me that we still have in certain parts of
the country swarms of locusts. So the Spanish flu was
originally what nineteen eighteen, right, it was the influenza epidemic. Uh,
that sounds right true eighteen and nineteen nineteen. So I
gotta put you in the spot. I hate doing this,
but if we have all these one seeds or twos

(07:45):
or threes, where is our sixteen? Where is the the
umbc the defeated Virginia two years ago? Like we're well,
I guess sixteen would be like a basic common cold.
That would be a sixteen, which is not a daily
but people do, I I guess occasionally from the cold
if you've got pre existing health conditions. So I would
put you know, because the cold. Nobody gets worried when

(08:05):
they have the cold. Who the hell cares about the cold?
You gotta maybe a day off. I just sucked some
garlic and I'm good. You know, That's how I do it.
So if we went back in reverse, then you'd probably
go cold and then pneumonia right at Yeah, I think
that's not a bad call on that. You know, I
really have to look down when you get down. I
don't even know if we have sixteen seats. I don't
even know if we would have that. I mean, you're

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also what do you do? I know this is not
technically a deadly plague, but if you drink enough of it,
it is. How about what do you do with the
water in Flint, Michigan? Is that is that a live
like a nine? A nine seed? Is that higher than
the coronavirus? Because you got to think about that. I mean,
you're drinking. You need water to survive, um, so you know,

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and then what about the classical HIV which was a
very very big and and still people get HIV. It's
although Magic Johnson's got it and he's is healthier than anybody. Um,
And so yeah, well, like when you think about this
at night, how much of an asshole do you got
to be to think about this? Just on the moments

(09:12):
of cancelation with the n C Double A Tournament and
Major League Baseball being postponed and the anhel suspending their season.
Like how Like what level of of asshole are we
for talking about this? Be sure to catch live editions
of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern
eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio app. Um. Well, I'm trying to kill time

(09:35):
on a podcast, and I'm also planning on doing this.
I'm planning to doing this on the radio at some
point if I haven't already done it. But no, because
this listen. Uh, desperate times call for desperate measures. Now,
I believe that you hack radio is over the holidays,
and I've been a great advocate against hack radio, but

(09:58):
my position is evolving here, guess gun. Let me tell you, okay,
because the reason I argue against hack radio and you know,
Christmas or Thanksgiving is because spoiler alert, their ship going on.
You don't have to go down to that level. It's
just a sign of being lazy, right, It's a sign

(10:21):
of being lazy. I'm not saying you can always have
to break new ground, but there's stuff going on. I
just gotta dig a little deeper. Now. I will argue
that for the next month that I might have to
do you when your guests gon radio list radio, you know,
Mount Rushmore Radio. Who are your top four football coaches

(10:43):
of all time? Belichick's number one? You put Lombardi too?
What about Bill Walsh? A legend from the forty niners?
What do you do with you know? Do you look
at the Dolphins and the success they had Parcels under Shula? Uh? Yeah,
Parcels didn't win enough though, right if we didn't win
the big one enough? Yeah? What do you do? What
do you how about any read great regular season coach?

(11:03):
Where does he rank? But we can't do that to
the listeners. And I think that the fortunate thing for
you is that you have a base that doesn't overreact.
I think you have a meat and potato based audience
that's built in. Like if you don't need a lot
of dressing or sour kroud or onion, well, well well

(11:24):
we will the show will go on, so we will
find things to talk about it. I have a feeling
will be really micro analyzing and putting random comments made
by athletes on Instagram and Twitter, and we will put
those under the microscope and we will then do entire
monologues about a random tweet from from someone. So I

(11:46):
have a feeling will get a lot of that. But
but is there is there anything that tops the image? Now,
like Rudy Gobert touching microphones before getting sick. Well, he
was trying to be funny, and you know, no good
deed goes unpunished, and he thought he was funny. He
didn't think he was Uh, you know, who cares? You know,
I'll be I'll be the jokes or see, there's nothing

(12:07):
to worry about here and there you go, Wow, well
we're not killing time here, Ben, So what's on the
menut today? All right? So this is going to be
the first of what could become a regular feature on
their show. I love documentaries, can't get enough of documentary.
So for the first time in the history of The
Fifth Hour with Ben Maller and that other guy, guess gone,

(12:27):
we will have a Cisco and Ebert stat's old school
that's before your time, guest, before my time. I watched
clips on YouTube, but a Cisco and Ebert type of review,
which do you know Cisco and Libert was the inspiration
for Pardon the Interruption. Yes, they positioned that show as

(12:47):
a homage to Cisco and Ebert because Michael Wilbon from Chicago,
and those guys were Chicago guys. But uh so we'll
review a movie. We'll we'll go I'm to dig deep here.
I I gave Gascon a homework assignment. I told you
to watch the movie. I watched it twice, actually, well

(13:08):
three times, really part of it for a third time.
I very rarely do this. Uh it's I mean, I
really have to like something for me to watch it
three times. So that's gonna most of what it's gonna
be about. Well, we'll get a grab bag in actual
questions by actual listeners. We gotta study this and don't
stick to sports if Gascon's got anything there. Um so,

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so we'll get right into it. Yes, yes, of course.
All right, so we we begin the name of the movie,
which I guess is kind of important. It is supersize
me too, Holy Chicken. And the cool thing about this
you don't have to go to the movie theater because
nobody can. Everyone's in quarantine. It's free. It's on YouTube.

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I hooked up I got a cable, I hook up
my my phone to my television, and I watched this
thing like I was in theater mode and it was awesome.
It's a film by Morgan Spurlock, the man behind the
original Supersize Me Too. And the plot it's a documentary.
But the plot is this guy who was you know

(14:12):
big I hate fast food. You know this is terrible
and honestly, well, now he's decided to open his own
fast food chicken joint and and uh so, so he
goes to Columbus, Ohio, the test they say, the test
market capital of America. Now, when I was growing up,
gascon Peoria, Illinois was the test market capital of America.

(14:34):
I guess it's moved now to Columbus, Ohio. Well, it's
one of the second I think it's ranked either one
or two now in the middle of America, the Midwest
countries or Midwest cities in the United States. So it
makes sense you either Columbus, Ohio is ranked number two. Yeah,
it's either one or two. Right now, what what ranking
are you looking at in terms of population and growth? Yeah,

(14:55):
you got Chicago. I think you have Chicago Columbus and
you might swap those orders, and then I believe you
go down to Charlotte. Charlotte's not in the Midwest. Well,
I'm talking about cities itself, like mid market cities. What
about Nashville, I don't know. It's a good question. Austin,
Texas where all the woke people live. No, they're here

(15:17):
in Los Angeles. I'm so so sick and tired of
woke people. Why we got l A. We have San Francisco,
we have New York, we have uh, Portland. I don't
want to get away from the super woke people that
are offended by everything in practice virtue signaling. I just

(15:40):
need a break. I just enough. So we got Milwaukee,
that's in there, Cincinnati, Chicago, Milwaukee, Growing, I don't know
about that, Traverse City, Michigan. Indie. Yeah, Indie's cool. I've
been to India. That's a hiptown. I like Indie. Yeah.
I'm down for Columbo, though I've never been to Cleveland.

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I've never been to Columbus. I don't think I've ever been.
I've been in Ohio a few times, but I've never
been to Columbus. H alright, So so anyway, the documentary
it focuses in on Big Chicken. Did you know there
was such a thing as Big Chicken? I did not,
but it makes sense now that I saw it. Uh,
This is crazy, the numbers, and you should never give
too many numbers out on an audio broadcast because people

(16:25):
aren't taking notes and they can't visualize the numbers. But
just imagine here that there are over twenty billion chickens
around the globe. There's more than three chickens for every
human on Earth. I learned that from the documentary, which
I guess makes sense right when you think about you know,
chickens kind of a small bird, and there's a lot

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of there's a lot of people, but people are bigger
and they take up more space. The most farmed animal
on the planning the chicken. Now, with piggy backing off
of that number one bill and chicken sandwiches are eaten
a year. Yeah, well, they say that Wendy's, McDonald's and
chick fil A go through about one point four billion

(17:10):
pounds of chicken per year. That's three point seven million
per day, forty three pounds of chicken per second. They
getcord to this documentary that people are eating now full
disclosure of the band. When when we when we eat
fat like we eat like fat asses. And let's say
the places that we go to McDonald's, Jack in the box,

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Burger King, Wendy's, Chick fil A, Karls Jr. Raising Kanes.
How many of those places you actually eat chicken sandwiches at.
You know, I'm more of a chicken strip guy, but
I'm still eating chicken. I when I used to go
to Windy's back in the day, I love the Windy's
chicken sandwich. I've almost never got burgers at Wendy's. I
always got the chicken sandwich at Windy's, the fried chicken sandwich,

(17:52):
and I got a side of nuggets and I got
it upsized. And I love that. My wife loves Chick
fil A. The families all about the Chick fil A.
But I'm you know, I'm fine. It's not terrible, but
it's not as good as raising canes. Wow, not see.
I I only eat burgers at in and Out or
Carls Jr. But if you go to McDonald's, chicken, McNuggets,

(18:15):
Chick fil A spicy chicken sandwich. If I go to
Jack in the Box, it's always two tacos and two
chicken sandwiches, and it's like five bucks, so it's pretty
well prized. Such a pig, I am. I'm fat. When
I watched this bed. I had two thoughts, I want
to eat and don't want to throw up. Yeah, my
wife when we were watching it, she's like, I forced

(18:35):
her to watch it, and she was into it. She
was and and she's like, I guess we're not eating
chicken anymore. I'm know I'm eating chicken. I mean not,
you mean I don't know. I'm so I'm not gonna
stop my eating my chicken. Um, but it's crazy. We're
more likely to eat chicken than we are beef. Now,
chicken overtook beef a couple of years ago, according to this.
This the movie supersize me too now because this all

(18:58):
was intertwined, so peopill know this when they start watching it.
But the way that the marketing worked was fantastic. Yeah yeah,
I'm gonna get into that. But the marketing is unbelieving.
But the way that they mentioned that with the chicken
supplanting beef, well that that thing that goes just into
the way that it's prepared right cooked and and exact people,

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the chicken sandwich has become the new the new burger,
and it's it's the number one sandwich in America. And
we'll get to that. But but wait, there's more numbers.
Guesscot I have more numbers. I scribbled down some more
numbers and numbers. Uh, there are nine plus billion. They
call them the Ross cross large double breasted chicken. Right,

(19:41):
I didn't know. I've never heard of this. Have you
ever heard of this? I'm not really in the poultry business,
but this is the fastest growing broiler chicken hatch each year.
Did you did you see the numbers on this? This
stood out for me too. Yeah, these are bread for
the meat obviously, because you know in the poultry game.
But six weeks after they hatch, they are ready to

(20:04):
be sent to the slaughter house and go to the
dinner table. Six weeks lifespan of six weeks. I I
could not believe the process from start to finish about
how Morgan actually developed his his own little farm with
an Alabama Right, he went to Alabama. Yeah, the creator

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was in Alabama. He actually drove up for the for
the grand opening. And the monopoly that's amongst the Chicken
and Tyson Chicken in particular, it really controls the market.
Well that's big chicken. Yeah, that's big chicken. But but
just to follow up here on the the Ross crosses, large,
double breasted, fastest growing brother chicken. Um. They say, seventy years.

(20:48):
They've been researching this for seventy years. Let's do the
math on the what are we looking at nineteen fifty roughly? Yeah,
pretty good math. And they they're they're bragging about the research.
It's selective breeding. And from originally when they started this
seventy years ago, it took between sixteen and twenty weeks

(21:08):
for a chicken to be big enough to go to
to make a chicken sandwich, and it's down to six weeks.
Every year they take a day off the breeding at
the time it takes. So, I mean, given enough time,
are we looking at a chicken being hatched and then
a week later it's ready to go to the slaughterhouse.

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That's dangerous and and the most profitable chickens to be
had are the males. That's right, baby, half about let's
hear it for the boys. Come on, ladies, sorry bad
yet by you. Chicks and females are are obviously low
on the totem pole of the slaughter Males the top
dog and the most profitable. Yes, and this is this

(21:51):
is crazy. You just see that they had a little graphy. Yeah,
I don't give everything away, but I don't care. I mean,
most people are gonna watch it, but you should watch it.
If you watch it, I don't think this is any
giving too much away. Who cares? Um. So they said,
if a human being, a child was born and grew
at the same rate as the modern day broiler chicken,
a two month old baby it's sixty days in the life,

(22:15):
would weigh six hundred and sixty pounds. That's a fat baby.
That was a fat baby. But it's plus plus minus
the fake grill marks on the baby, right yeah, oh yeah, well, yeah, exactly.
But the ninety plus percent of consumers are going for

(22:37):
the fried or crispy aversion rather than the grilled. And
uh and and it's really interesting, And I love that
I won't getting in the marketing stuff because I this
is right in my wheelhouse. And I have ranted about
weasel words and sports and advertising for years. I remember
when I had an epiphany and I read in a
book that the term best was it was a wet term,

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and that just set me off on a course in
my life where I then wanted to learn about weasel
words because, uh, in the advertising there were lawsuits about
you know this place, this, you know Pastrami Shack will
just use that as an example, said they had the
best post Tommy sandwich in the world. Um, and then
so somebody's sued and all that, and they determined that

(23:21):
the legal definition and advertising for the term best is
as good as everything else in that category. Meaning you
can have seventeen thousand mom and pop sandwich shops that
all have the world's best sandwich. And I just blew
me away. That's stuck with me and I when seeing
the marketing weasels take over in this documentary, this new

(23:43):
Morgan Spurlock documentary, I guess we came out last year,
but I just saw it's free on YouTube. Now. Um,
the health halo, that was a good one that Now,
this is what marketing people do, is they have associated
as certain terms, asociated with certain products that are only
there to make you feel healthier. I mean, they call

(24:06):
it the health halo. Shouldn't we do that in sports radio?
Shouldn't we do terms that make us seem more you know,
on the ball and yeah, but how many guys have
that kind of diversity with their language. That's the other
thing too, It's almost like real estate. Ben You know this,
like you can't have the old terminology as you can't
have a mansion in a ghetto, and you can't have

(24:27):
a ghetto surrounded by mansion. So this kind of goes
back to your point about the unhealthiest food is surrounded
by all this green. They do it not only in
the food itself, but in the ambiance of all the
venues like McDonald's, a Chick fil A, a Burger King,
like the wall, the writing on the cup, everything. There's

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these little mind tricks that they've figured out by studying
human nature. And but the some of the examples they
used in the documentary, they use terms like friends, natural,
hand crafted, artisan, free range, free range, homemade, that's that's
also one. And crispy not friede Yeah, frieda has evolved.

(25:15):
You gotta get it right here, guests Friday evolved to
crispy Yeah. And I didn't even notice because I'd always
say when I would go to Wendy's back in my
big eaten days, and I'd get the chicken sandwich combo,
I like the fried chicken sandwich combo, and I was
that upsized, and I want some fried chicken nuggets. But
now it's crispy. At some point I was not paying
attention and I failed, I failed society and it became crispy.

(25:37):
How about this natural natural, all natural farm to table.
That's a big one, right, better for you means nothing.
None of those terms mean anything. Hormone free, hormoard freeze
another one, hordmoorde freeze another one. Then they also explained
the difference between natural or organic, because most people think

(25:59):
now is organic and that's not the case at all. Yeah,
I mean, and they make organic. But this was very
eye opening for my wife who, unfortunately, and she's admitted
to it, when she goes to the store, she sees
terms like fresh natural, farm to table and gets very
excited and wants to buy those products because they usually
they she assumes you assume the position that they're better

(26:21):
for you. I get it. Um. But then they talked
about younger people who look for quality and gredience. They
want transparency, they said, and you know what are the
additives of preservatives? And you mentioned free range or cage tree,
which was a big part of the documentary. But to
can continue this train of thought, marketing, weasels we have

(26:44):
deceptive advertising. All natural they claim, and this was this,
This really stuck out to me in this documentary. The
most misleading claim in the poultry meat business is all
natural because, as you said, the average person thinks it's
organic and it's not. Did you see this is this
is so Weasley. This is like one of the great

(27:06):
Weasley things I've ever ever watched or heard about. All
natural a court of the United States Department of Agriculture
means minimally processed, no artificial ingredients. But here's the key part.
It only means what happens after the animal has been killed.

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It has nothing to do with how the animals raised. Now,
that is outstanding. And by law they say you cannot
add hormones to paltry, so it's impossible. But yet they
still claim no added hormones. They're not allowed to add hormones.
And one of the things, because people might be asking,

(27:48):
how is this even possible? How do they get around this? Well,
Morgan actually discovers and through Q and A that the U.
S d A they don't have enough money to be
testing these animals for any kind of hormones, so they
just believe it from from the suppliers, from the farmers,
and it's called the honor system because they're doing the

(28:08):
honor system with the food. The honor system. Think about
does the honor system ever work? My dad when I
was a kid, my my old man would he was
his parents smoked, all my grandparents smoked, and my my
dad was like also against smoking when I was growing up,
and he would go in these rants about smoke. They

(28:29):
used to have vending machines selling cigarettes and then you know,
based on the honor system, and he would just those
two nagers, they don't want honor the honor system. They're
buying those cigarettes. You know you're going Nobody honors the
honor system. Who honors the honor system? Nobody? Ex quick question,
was that the most eye popping thing for you? Or

(28:50):
was it the free rage quote unquote patio. Well, that
was also great. That that was good, but the fact
that you know these miss leading I mean, you cannot
add hormones, but yet they brag about no added hormones.
Yeah you can't, You're not allowed to do it. The
cage free thing was good though, that is another misleading thing. Uh.

(29:14):
Meat chickens in the United States have never been raised
in cages. So when you say cage free that's another
one of those things. It's you know you it's not true.
It's never been true. Uh, and then humanly raised. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show
weekdays at two am Eastern eleven p m. Pacific. Did

(29:35):
you see they said that the people that make the
chicken are allowed to determine what that means. I think
it goes back to the part where they were mentioning
where you have the farm itself, but you can't have
the chicks. And then eventually chickens outside for long period
of time, either because the temperatures are so hot, these
chickens will die from a heart attack because how fast

(29:56):
they grow. Yeah. And in the documentary, if watch this
and you know, God knows you should. Uh. The cage
free thing was was great and free range that was
a big part of this. And they actually had the
area which was just like what is it a couple
of feet its feet, it's like a chick paddock. It

(30:17):
was like a patio. It was like a chicken chicken
patio to go ahead and see the sun and uh.
And the cool thing about that, as they determined even
if the chickens don't actually choose to go outside. If
they have the option of going outside, it counts as
free range, right is that? Is that right? Free range?
And uh in the U s d A. Again, they

(30:39):
will if you vouch for the safety of the food,
they will just rubber stamp. Was just And the other
thing that was great, you know, following the weasel mantra,
which we're talking about right now, is the fact that
they said in the documentary that a lot of these terms,
these very woke terms such as free range, GMO, free

(31:01):
gamely raised, these came from protesters. These were the activists
against the chicken industry, and the Chicken is just like, funk, damn,
we'll just copy their terms, and they did. It's unbelievable.
I mean, these these people that were running around, you know,
trying to change the chicken business. The chickens is like, oh,

(31:22):
fuck it, we won't change it anything were We'll just
you know, we'll just use these terms. Now. I did
come to a realization. I didn't know this from from
the dock until they showed it. But I didn't realize
that Chick fil A has a lot of msg and
their sandwiches, Well, that's the key to get people. It's
a way to get people hooked on food. Yeah, that's
the sugar, right, that's pretty much that that's your that's

(31:44):
your fix for keep craving. Yeah exactly. Um, well, wouldn't
mean if you were, like, you know, a young mom
and you wanted your kids hooked on your food, just
put msg in your food at home, you can your
kid will never leave home. Kid will be like, um,
you know, or your dad. I don't care mom or
dad even crazy. Now, getting away from just this for

(32:05):
a second, has there ever been a food or drink
that you've ever been addicted to? And? Oh god you
I was a soda attict, man. I would go to
seven eleven, get the super giant big golf, I fill
it up. I drink about half of it in the
seven eleven, and then I'd go back fill it up
again before I checked out of the seven eleven. I
love soda. I I believe a lot of my obesity

(32:28):
came from drinking soda. Yeah, the sugary. I loved it. Man,
It's empty calories. And you know now that I'm gonna,
you know, angry middle age loser. I look back at
that and think about some of the the amazingly poor
life choices I made, uh in the food department? What
about you, guests? Do you think I was worse or
better off because I went down the road of energy drinks.

(32:50):
So when I was like twenty or twenty one, our
whole thing was go to Vegas in order red Bull Vodkas,
so you can stay up all day, all night for
four to forty hours. And I've been on edgy drinks
ever since. That that can kill you quicker because you
can have a heart attack. Yeah, yeah, And I didn't win.
It's a long term thing. When you drink soda, you

(33:11):
get the illnesses as you age. Now and that's the
other thing too, is because I didn't know this, but
some of the Instagram accounts that I follow, a couple
of the guys are or heavy into life changing experiences,
like guys that have been big and now are leaned
out or whatever. But they'll do like five to ten
minute testimonials, and what they do is they diagram the
ingredients on energy drinks and say okay, like for Bang

(33:33):
Bang is an example where it shows that there's no
sodium and there's no sugar, and they label it, they
advertise it. There's creating all this other stuff B C
A S. And then you read the fine label and
then there's other ingredients in there that are actually sugars,
but you don't see it because it's so fun in

(33:54):
print that you ignore it because you see the other
things that pop out at you when you know, with
the naked eye. So yeah, I've been like that with
Bang with five, our Energy, with Red Bulls, with rock stars,
like all those drakes. I'm guilty as charged. I never
got into it. And I remember when Red Bull kind
of came on the scene and I was working in

(34:15):
radio at the time and they were giving the radio station.
I worked at a lot of free product as a
way to get the people on the radio to use it.
And I mean whenever you wanted a Red Bull, there
was like cases of it down the hall. And I
never really got into it too much, but there were
people that were completely addicted to the Red Bull. They

(34:36):
did not get enough of it. I mean Vegas for me,
that's what it was like early two thousand's. It was
red Bull and vodka and the lounger a club and
they stayed up all day. You stayed up all night
and then you eventually crashed, but it was after your
weekend extravaganzas. So, yeah, it was really bad, and obviously,
looking back at it now, it's pretty reckless. But that's

(34:57):
what you do in your twenty one or twenty two yep.
So continuing on with the documentary, though, I I love
words and I like to I feel like I'm self educated.
I didn't really didn't pay attention in school, and I
feel like I've learned more since I got out of
school than I learned in school, because I try to
learn a different word too every day and try to
figure out if they're they're too long to pronounce, if

(35:19):
I could use them in my lexicon. I did not
know of the word boucolic. Were you aware of the
word bucolic? You know what that means? They used it
in the documentary, So I went to the Google and
I looked it up. I went to the interweb and
they because they talked about this boucolic, I think I'm
pronouncing it correct. Maybe I'm not. Uh, this boucolic notion

(35:42):
that what goes on on the farm in America is
just like when you grew up and you have those
little farm toys and all that. But boucolic means relating
to the pleasant aspects of the countryside or country life.
Now it's kind of like another and a synonym for
that would be like rusted. Okay, so does this correspond

(36:04):
to the Wendy's barn that's in their logo? Was that
what it was? I'm not I don't remember that part
of it, but there was some marketing guy that was
pretty good, and he was like talking about how um
essentially the people have this idea of what farming is
like because when they were kids playing with little toys,
you know, when you see and I had the same toys,

(36:25):
and you probably did, we all did you know I
had the little farm set with your tractor and your
barn and your cow and your check in and all
that stuff and uh and then the other thing which
and I have repeated this a couple of times this week,
and it is true. And I learned this a while
ago about human nature that people do not take in

(36:48):
stuff through fact. They take in stuff through stories. And
this is problematic with the coronavirus, for example, because you
have the facts and you have the story, and the
stories are really scaring the ship out of everyone. The
facts for most people not that bad, but people are

(37:11):
hearing and learning and and consuming like a sponge the stories,
and they're not going with the facts, and that becomes problematic.
Now when you've traveled across the United States been have
you ever gone with a city where it was freezing
cold that you had to wear ear and hand mits?
Oh yeah, sure, I absolutely have been to several cities

(37:34):
like that. So that was one of the funnier parts
of this documentary. It's early on, it's probably about twenty
or thirty minutes in, but what Morgan does is he
bounces between every fast food restaurant, and when he went
to Burger King to order a chicken chicken sandwich, he
actually took one bite of it and the entire chicken
filet the patty was hollow, so he fingered it with that.

(37:57):
He put three fingers through it. It looked like many
mits Mark tape. Yeah, it's pretty much. It's like, oh
my gosh, that is that's exactly what we eat, right,
just empty. Yeah, and yeah, it was pretty I you know,
no no knocking Burger King, but I've had that same experience.

(38:19):
I used to go with the Burger King chicken sandwich,
which is elongated. The Burger King chicken sandwich long geting
because my grandfather, may he rest in peace, loved Burger King.
He loved Pizza Hut and Burger King with his two
favorite restaurants. So we go out with Grandpa. He was
the Yiddish guy from Massachusetts, and we go out with him,
and he he spoke Yiddish. I learned the Yiddish words

(38:40):
from him. But we'd go to like Burger King and
he'd get like a whopper burned up through the grill twice.
That's where I learned to love my my love of
overcooked foods. And then Pizza Hut too, And I remember
him taking napkins with Pizza Hut pizza back years ago
and as a kid, and sucking the the grease and

(39:01):
and going through like a whole, like seventeen napkins to
get all the oil and grease off the very top
of the chick of the pizza man. But and the
other thing, did you see? The part that stood out
to me too, is that that every company has to
have a story. You have to have an advertising campaign
which is a story. You can't just say, hey, my

(39:22):
food is better. You have to tell them why your
food is better. You've gonna weave a good tail. Yeah,
But that's where these marketing directors and executives and content
creators come in, and it is absolutely fascinating just to
see how they can awind those words, Like you mentioned
the language that's around that, because those words will pop
up at you and because you think, well, because you've

(39:43):
never seen it before, never used in that kind of
a sphere. It gives you like that warm, comforting feeling
along with the colors and the atmosphere of the building
themselves that you order in. Oh and then the packaging, Yeah,
the packaging is a good one with that. But essentially
big takeaway is that we're we're all guinea pigs and

(40:03):
the food companies are counting on us to follow human
behavior to increase their sale. I mean they even said
in there, they said listen. Uh. The companies do market research,
which obvious everyone in business does market research, but you
they determine if people buy more food because there's salads
on the menu. They put salads on the menu even

(40:23):
if and I think they said in part of this
maybe I maybe I just imagine this that they have
the salads on the menu, but they don't really sell
that they'll they'll put like two healthy items wrapped around
a crispy chicken sandwich, and people will buy the crispy
chicken sandwich somehow thinking because it's surrounded by to a nice,
supposedly healthy items that they're okay. Well, the amazing thing

(40:46):
is that that market research, I think that's all goes
all the way back up to the top of the
food chain. No pun intended, but of the way that
Tyson manipulates the market where they pay out on a
tournament scale. It's a rig system. That's wild. Yeah, it
is a wold, but I like this whole thing blew

(41:07):
me away. Like the mark I keep going to the
marketing stuff and then I didn't know about anything about
the rig system. I didn't know what the hell Big
Chicken was. I had no idea what that was. Um,
but just the whole, the whole thing that the free
range part which we reference where the U. S d
A allows you to use free range as long as
the chickens have access to the outdoors, but they don't

(41:28):
have to, you know, use it. It's just the whole
thing is just ridiculous. It's just craziness. The greenwashing, I
think it was the term they used the food industry
because consumers, they determined, want to feel like the businesses
are being honest, and then you know you can trust
the businesses. But it's still junk food. It's just repackaged

(41:50):
junk food with a green label line a different way.
But let's get into the rig system, because you're right.
I mean, that's a big part of this, and I
feel bad. We have a lot of farmers that listen
to the show, guys that get up early on the
farm and and listen to the overnight show, which is
I guess in morning show for them, and you know,
getting up for the sunrises. Yeah, I mean this was brutal, man.
This is what a bunch of scumbags. I mean, I

(42:15):
gotta use a word bigger than Mama Luke and dingle Berry.
How about assholes? How about that? Is that a good one?
Greedy ass mothers? Yeah, so big chicken. They have farmers
competing against other farmers. It's not an equal playing field,
and there have been some lawsuits. As you said, there's
a tournament system, so they claim it's a merit based competition,

(42:39):
but they pick farmer against other farmer, you know, grower, etcetera.
And and you're ranked. It's like, you know, how you
have the power rankings every week when we used to
have sports in America and they have power rankings every
week and all that and uh, and they weigh how
much you know, you ranked on how much the birds
weigh and how much they eat and how many chickens

(43:01):
survive and goes by and it goes I think it's
one through eleven. That's how it was ranked between farmers
that were uh supplying them, and they have a set amount.
It's the big pot. And then if you have the
most successful chickens, that's great, you get the most money.
If not, and on the surface, what's wrong with that, right,

(43:21):
that's capitalism, because hey, if you do well, you should
get more. The problem is, they explained in the documentary,
is that Big Chicken dictates everything. So it's not a
level playing field. Like they determine what birds you get,
what you're supposed to feed them, and if you end
up getting a bunch of sick birds, doesn't matter. Right,

(43:42):
they send you a bunch of female chickens that don't
grow as fast as male chickens. Uh, fuck you, you're screwed.
And then it's on top of that the racket even
gets amplified because the way that like let's say, for example,
I'm Tyson and you're a farmer, well to keep yourself
in business, then I could sell to you a heater
or a water pump or something else that puts you

(44:04):
more in hock, and so you're more in debt while
trying to keep yourself afloat. At the same time, you're
barely making ends meet because your chicks don't grow at
the level of other competing farmers. Yeah, they they said
in in the documentary. Obviously this is one side of
the story. Big Chicken didn't respond. But the goal is

(44:27):
to control these farmers, right. They want to get them
just above the water or just a little bit below
the water. And it's like a control mechanism to keep
everyone under the thumb. And so they stay in lockstep
with Big Chicken. This is crazy. This is absolutely absolutely

(44:47):
nuts um. And it's like a legal way, as they
said in there, from from stealing from people. It was like,
what's wrong with just you know, you're based on how
many chickens you you get paid per chicken should be equal?
What's wrong with that? And and and the process doesn't
change every month So if you and I were competing farmers,
but if your way to grow the chickens was exactly

(45:09):
the same month in and month out, something changes and
or god forbid, if you speak up against Big Chicken,
then you also get a demerit too. Oh yeah, they
were that one of the guys that the guy in
the documentary h he worked with Morgan Sport Spurlock. He
Um pointed out that he had been blackballed, ostracized, whatever

(45:32):
term you want to use there because of that. But
it's it's just nuts. And again, as you pointed out,
we talked about it here. They dictate everything, so it's
really nothing changes other than them, the Big Chicken people,
and then you're you're fucked, all right. So time down
for the final Mallard film review scale of one to ten.
Now ten. I love these documentaries. I think one of

(45:54):
the great documentaries I've seen in recent years it's been
a couple of years was Get Me Roger Stone. I
recommended that to you guess. Remember, yeah, that's a ten. Uh,
this documentary one to ten. I'm gonna give this a ten. Also,
I believe this was a tent. I watched it multiple times.

(46:16):
I mean, hell, we're doing a whole podcast about this.
So on the Mallard scale of enjoyment, I put this
as a tent. I learned new marketing terms I didn't
know about. I learned about how farmers are getting fucked over.
I didn't know about that. I love the whole advertising
human nature thing. I'm fascinated by how we're all wired

(46:37):
and and how people don't even realize that they're being
horn and winked hoodwinked rather than horne swaggle and all this.
I I think it's great. So again, the movie is
supersized me too, Holy Chicken by Morgan Spurlock. It is
absolutely free on YouTube. Last I checked, it's like an
hour and forty five minutes and I give it a ten.

(46:58):
Guest gone, do you have a desk? On film score?
I think, unlike the Aaron hernana'z documentary that we talked
a little bit about, this one is up there for
so many reasons. I think the biggest one is it
encompasses everything, and you as a consumer or you as
a business owner, can relate to it in any kind
of market that you're in. And I think Morgen was

(47:20):
extremely thorough on this when he did his market research.
It wasn't like he went to one ad agency. He
went some multiple ad agencies. He went to his competitors.
And the best part Ben I think was he actually
went to his biggest critics too, because he made several
phone calls the chicken industry and executives that were like, hey,
are you the guy that did the documentary and he said, yeah,

(47:41):
I am. I'm also a farmer too, and you know,
they obviously would avoid him ditches, phone calls, never return anything.
But I thought it was great from start to finish.
Just the process alone would wake you up to how
chickens are obviously produced, and then bread if you will,
and then the finalized product. It was fun. So what's

(48:02):
your one to ten? Yeah, alright, alright, but you are
batting a thousand two for two on the recommendations with
these uh these documentaries that I watch a lot of
shitty documentaries, but when I see a good one, it's like, Wow,
I gotta tell everybody now. I want to tell everyone
in the village I found a good documentary and uh,

(48:22):
you know, it's kind of like that mcmillions thing, which
I think is also a ten. And I'm gonna watch
the final episode this weekend from h b O. That's
also a wonderful documentary, but a lot of this stuff
ship and and the fact that I stumbled upon this
one on YouTube of all places, that that was like
craziness but so but just the final is The final

(48:44):
takeaway though, is like I'm am I gonna stop eating chicken. No,
I'm not gonna stop eating chicken. I'm not the only
thing that will really changed about this. I feel bad
for farmers. I don't know how I can help farmers.
Maybe if you have an idea and how I can
help a farmer, that would be good. And then next
time might go to a restaurant, I will notice all
the subtle terms that I really haven't paid any attention

(49:06):
to in the marketing, you know, all these little free
range and all natural, the health halo um because that
that that health halo thing, just that they kept referencing that.
That blew me. So that's how this will affect Now.
Do you think he was taunting the market when he
because his menu actually had halos on certain food products too.

(49:29):
Do you think it looks like the angel's hat, the
old angel's hat with the halo on the side, that's
pretty damn good man. What provoked you to watch that? Anyway?
Because it's an hour and forty minutes. Yeah, that's long.
You know, every Friday, when I get done with the
gym and I come home, I'm like, I always try
to watch a documentary at least one during the weekend,

(49:52):
and like, I've watched most of the stuff on Netflix.
So I was surfing around and I just stumbled upon
on this out of I don't know how the hell
it came up on my my computer, but I I'm
always like Friday, I spend maybe twenty thirty minutes trying
to find something to watch that night. Uh, and this
just this happened and it was great, and so watch

(50:15):
if you're in the documentaries, tell me if you agree
with the film review here. And we might have to
do this every week now, guests, I might have to
find until until things get back to normal, whatever the
funk normal is in the sports world, we might have
to get back to that, all right. So for engagement
purposes then, because obviously getting Roger Stone was politics, this

(50:36):
is for food. So what kind of genre would we
go through next with the documentary we've done murder? I
guess or sports, and um, yeah, you know, there was
one a couple of years ago. It was on Netflix
about a music producer that was also a ten DR dre. No. No,
it was about this like guy this uh, this random

(50:57):
guy who had been associated with all these great music
who had moved to Hawaii. I don't even remember the
name of it now. I wish I did, because I'd
have you watch it, and then I'd watch it again,
and then we'd killed a podcast next week. If anybody knows,
I'm very I'm not giving out a lot of details.
But he he it was a film, big, big movie,
not movie, a big music mogul and had a very

(51:17):
interesting life in Hollywood, worked with all these big music acts,
was connected to like everybody in the business. And then
he moved to Hawaii and he hung out and smoked
weed with Willie Nelson and Don Nelson and uh and
all that and in Maui And um, I don't remember.
It was on Netflix a few years ago. I got
look at it up. Then that's pretty good. I don't

(51:39):
remember the name though, grab Bag you want grab bag?
Is it Quincy? No, that's not the name of it. Wait, wait,
hold on, let me let me check hold a second
to me, what you say Quincy, Yeah, Quincy documentary. No,
hold on, let me see Travis Scott Homecoming. It's beyond

(52:00):
say Quincy was one. No, it's not Quincy's about Quincy Jones, right, No,
it's not that this is like an old white Jewish guy,
you know. Uh so that's what that was about. But anyway,
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I say sixties percent? Astros thirty seven percent, Rob Manford

(52:43):
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the person in Wuhan, China that decided to have some
nice bat That's That's what I'm gonna blame. How about that?
You know, crazy man, It's definitely crazy. I'll loope. From
Mischian Penadera Pendejo have you ever heard of that in California?

(53:08):
P e n d e j O. Yeah, I know
what pendejo is. Alright, anyway, uh, he writes, and he says,
I can't be the only one that thinks Chris Carter
looks like the California Raisin. Feel free to discuss. He
sent a photo which obviously I can't show you right here.
Um but uh, he I gotta tell you not uh

(53:32):
not a bad reference. He does look like to me
the California Raising. Chris Carter, who knew, oh yeah, formerly
about pass on briefly, briefly event for this one. I
don't know what he's doing these days. I don't know
it's got going on. By the way, that guy from
Mission Viejo, where I used to hang out with the
Saddleback College, which is right there, sandwiched right around between

(53:55):
Rancho Santa Margherite. On one side, you had Laguna Hills,
Forest Lake Forces right there. Go a little further south,
you've got over near the ocean. You had Laguda Beach,
San Clementa beautiful Dana points down there. Awesome. Yeah, that's
a well, yeah, it's why of course you go to

(54:15):
college in a white collar place. But I'm from the
mean streets of Irvine, California, and I lived on the
north part of town, the bad part of town, the
wrong side of the tracks. Where I lived, it's a
very different a lot of tough track housing. When I
was growing up there, I had a lot of strip
malls I had to deal with. It was a big problem.
I survived. The right Jason from Tampa right since is

(54:39):
My question is if you had to be quarantined in
the Fox studios because of this uh coronavirus, would you
be with? Who would you be? Without your these four
options Eddie Cooper, Loop, Roberto or that snake gascon you
know it would be me? No way, of course it
would be no. No, You'd be annoying, and you don't

(55:00):
know how to park. And I can't imagine your bedroom
like your bathroom and bedroom habits. You'll probably fart all
the time. He's disgusting. Uh So No, I'd probably go
with Roberto because he'd cook, you know, cooking with Roberto
that we know he does a segment dummy called Cooking
with Roberto, and he likes to cook. If we're quarantine

(55:23):
here in the studio, we have no goddamn grill We
have nothing in here except for you cooking the microwave. Mom,
you're gonna reheat frozen food. You're not gonna cook anything,
just nuke it. Just that's not cooking. Yeah, it is
my dad. When my dad is cooking, he puts everything
in the microwave. So what happens if Roberto starts drinking?
Then oh, that would be a problem exactly. It would

(55:46):
have to be a dry quarantine. Yeah, but like Coop
would just smoke weed, that would give me a headache.
Eddie would want to talk about hockey or wouldn't talk
at all. So I don't think that would be any fun,
you know. Yeah, yeah, I'd go with Roberta. That would
be my guy Jason and Rocky Mountain Virginia rights. And
he says, hey, guys, did any of you ever make

(56:08):
a game winning play in sports? A little league, high school, college, whatever?
And if you did, what was your celebration that particular day. Um,
I guess I'll go first. Uh No. My claim to
fame and youth sports was I hit one of the
longest home runs in the history of Northwood Little League.

(56:28):
That was at the time. I was told the same
distance like Mark McGuire, hit. I had a metal bat,
I was tremendously fat and all this stuff and made
contact on the sweet spot. And they estimate that that
ball I hit when I was like thirteen years old,
went four hundred and fifty feet and you know how

(56:49):
they have the little league fence and all that, it
was like twice the fence. It was insane. Um, but
that's my claim defend. But it was not a game
winning home run or anything like that. It was just
the most memorable youth sports moment I had. What about you, gas, Well,
my senior year, UM, I played at a small Catholic
school down San Pedro, but our field was not on campus.

(57:10):
It was actually on the coast near Piso del Mars.
So if you're familiar with like palas FTEs and rolling hills,
it's west of the four oh five for those of
you that in California, west of the four oh five.
If you looked up Teran A Resort or Trump National
down in PV, that's kind of where my baseball diamond was. Anyways,
a couple of days prior to our first round playoff game,

(57:31):
my grandfather had died and he's a huge baseball guy.
He's he's like you, uh see just raw with baseball,
just talks about it all the time. Well, we're in
a playoff game, but so is my sister. She was
playing softball at the There's a driving range down in
San Pedro, the l APD does their target practice set
and there's connected a softball field. So my dad, who

(57:52):
was working at the time, was driving back and forth
between our two games, which was about like ten miles apart. Anyways,
we played a school from up here called Campbell Hall
and I led the ball game off in the second
inning with a solo home run. We bust the gates
wide open. Ben it was seven and nothing into the
seventh inning. High school ball ends in seven innings. Well,

(58:15):
the opposing team came back off of a couple of
areas and they tied it seven. Seven into the into
the bottom of the seventh, we were retired. So we
go to extra innings, and at that point in the
ball game, I was one for one of the ball
game with a solo home run in two walks. I
come up in the bottom of the eighth inning ONLM
on deck and the guy ahead of me hits the

(58:35):
shot off the center field wall, just misses hitting a
home run, and I come up next, and they bring
in a relief picture and supposedly this guy was their
their ace, like their closes or whatever. And my coach says,
just look for something to hit on the ground and
beat it out and and we'll try to get runners
at the corners. First pitch, I saw Ben I hit
the ship out of this ball at to dead center field,

(58:56):
and how our field was was positioned, it goes over
the cliff. So my ball went right into the Pacific Ocean.
It was wild. And as I'm rounding first base, just
like the natural where he hits the light stand in
and it blows up and almost there was a blow up.
So as I'm rounding first base, I'm like sandly loud,
I'm like, get out of here, get out of here,

(59:17):
like talking ship. One of the guys on my team
who had struck out in the previous at bat started
talking ship to the picture. They collide at the mound
and there's a bench just clearing brawl. As I'm rounding
second base, so I come around third, I touched home
plate and I stood there because I didn't want to
get into the brawl and get ejected. Right. Best part

(59:39):
about this Ben was that there was an l a
judge who was behind home plate and he videotaped everything.
So when the game ended, the umpires wanted to throw
a couple of our guys out and throw me out
for saying that I started the altercation. The umpires go
to the judge and as soon as the judge goes

(59:59):
the umpire is my dad comes in from the parking
lot and he's like, what's going on? And the judge
was like, your kid hit a home run off my kid,
da da da da da. The umpires reviewed the tape,
they called at a game winning home run. Ball game
was over and that's how it ended. So my grandmother
told me, she's like, I thought your grandfather carried that
ball out. It was pretty awesome. It was so, but

(01:00:21):
it was fun. You sounded just like Al Bundy in
the last few minutes here from back. One of us
children of high school. One of us is really long
witted for the majority of the time, and some of
us are not. So I had to get in my
airtime like I'm coming up for some air right now.
So I turn it back over to you. Listen if
you want to come on Ben Mather's Show. Over the
next month and do an entire hour of radio now,

(01:00:43):
because that'll give Ralph an idea of coming in your funds.
That's the last thing you need at this moment. Apocalypse,
Ralph Irvin, I'll choose apocalypse. That is, uh, all right,
we're doing grab bag. These are actual questions by actual
listeners like yourself. What else do we have here? Let's
see this from Mike and Japan, He says, Will Commissioner

(01:01:07):
Rob Manford finally bend over and give it to the extros?
Uh no, no, now he doesn't have to. Now, you know,
it's it's like, hey, you have the ultimate trump card,
excused the coronavirus. I can't do anything because of the coronavirus.
Everyone's gonna be using that as you gotta have a
fall guy. I gotta have a fall guy. Let's see

(01:01:28):
who else do we have this? He and Joe in
Mount Laurel, Pennsylvania says, Ben and David, your bravery is
unmatched in sports talk radio history doing this podcast in
the coronavirus pandemic. Well, thank you, Joe. I appreciate that.
Very kind of you to say that. And we are
risking our lives here. We are risking. You see that

(01:01:48):
email they send out, Management sent out they are putting
precautions in at our our facility there, our colleague Rob
Parker has been quarantined. Is that right? Yes? Not today
when I walked it in the studio because I'd asked,
you know, there's a lot of guys here that have
wives and kids, and so I was curious because of
the travel with a lot of our hosts on boats

(01:02:11):
on flights, like, hey, is there any kind of precautionary
measures that we're taking? And I found out Parker's quarantined. Well,
he was on a boat for a week or whatever,
and then he flew to the East coast, like he
flew up to like New York I think it was. Yeah,
So on Lockdown, h yeah, And it's a no no

(01:02:32):
in studio guests. It's gonna really hurt our shows. No
no in studio guests. I guess that's unfortunate. John rights
and he says, in this time of the coronavirus, should
we replace the handshake with a the fish bump, be
the elbow tap or see jazz hands? What is jazz hands? Jazz? Well,
if you if you look up the game winning goal

(01:02:54):
that Alec Martinis scored against the New York Rangers in
Game five of the Stanley Cup Final. Jazz hands like,
he threw up his gloves and he started shaking his hands, like, okay,
you shake your fingers, Kenny. That's not that's pretty cool.
Do you know what I would do? Would air? I
do the air high five. I do that with Roberto
because I practice good hijia, I do the air high five.
Why can't we just be like McGuire and Conseco backsh brothers. Yeah,

(01:03:16):
bash brothers go for harm checks. That'd be good. That's
very masculine. You know we we we're big masculine people.
A new in Orange Owensboro, Kentucky who regularly sends questions
in I don't think he's missed a week. Uh. And
he says, first and he's clearly been drinking here because
he says, I want to say uh. He says this

(01:03:38):
is for gascon. He says, I thought most of the
Malamoshia find you very annoying. I like the energy, he says. Uh.
He seems to enjoy your your stories, which tells me
he's not a discerning customer. New it's a bad job
by you. Uh, he says. I have the question for
you is what's it what's it like being the son

(01:04:00):
of a cop, he says, And what does your family
think of the coronavirus? Well, being a son of a
cop early on was brutal because my dad he just
like he was always stirring with me, always serious, and
I always walked on eggshells. He just because my dad
had the voice, the mustache and the eyes where he

(01:04:21):
would just beat you down, like to this day, your
dad has like the ultimate police mustache. Yes, like Jeff Kent,
Tom Selleck. My dad's like right there. So you should
be able to grow that same musket. No, I can't.
He's really he's got the skills, man, He's uh right, Ben.
My senior year, we did I don't know if you
guys did at your high school, but we did a

(01:04:41):
formal in the fall and then homecoming as well, I
mean prom in the spring. My best friend calling his mom.
She let's just say she liked the party a little bit.
She was a flight attendant. She has had a lot
of fun own a house like on the far side
of Sampedro, like close to where Eddie lives. She lived
in a cul de sac well, the night of our prom,

(01:05:02):
we had a bunch of people that were getting together
when school got out. My dad had gotten word of
it that my buddy Collins mom was going to have
a party there alcohol obviously, no parents or whatever. My
dad rolled up in an undercover police car in the
cul de Sac and had that entire blocks lights shut off,
like the street lights shut off. So I had friends

(01:05:24):
that were rolling up to this house with packs of
beer like six pack, twelve pack, twenty four pack, and
my dad was sitting in the cul de Sac and
just shaming these people and they had to pour all
their drinks out and leave. I rolled up in a
van with my friends and as soon as I saw
the car said turned around and we went around. We
went to another house party and like had fun the

(01:05:46):
entire night. So I got away with it, but I
got you know, I got pages that night throughout the
nights saying, hey, your dad sucked up our prom party.
I was like, no, he funked up your prom party.
He didn't sunk up mine, but yeah, they were probably
pissed in your dad. What the fu? Yeah, yeah, I definitely.
My dad was a cop, though my mom was a teacher,
so you know I had it hard. Yeah. As far

(01:06:09):
as the coronavirus, I don't think you're any different anybody.
I mean, I will tell you that my wife works
at a police station and so and she comes home
obviously and we're hanging out and stuff. So I'm thinking, like,
if anybody at the precinct she works at, she's a
nine one one operator. But if anyone gets the coronavirus,
then then I get it. Yeah, right, She's gonna get it,
and then I'll get it and then we're off to

(01:06:31):
the races. Now, have you done any kind of countermeasures
at this time? I know you had that picture on
Instagram with the toilet paper and paper towels, but have
you done anything else like Still, I'm still going to
the gym. My wife wishes I wouldn't go to the
gym until this is all settled down, but I feel
like it's good from my immune system, and I'm paranoid
but losing, you know, getting weight. Well. To two quick

(01:06:53):
things that I did for my sisters and for my
mom and dad was I bought um little packet. They're
called drip drop, and it's powder which is based inly
like a like an ivy pack um that's really good
for rehydration. And then also bought some power beats uh
that's good for your heart, your blood circulation and whatnot.

(01:07:13):
So I bought a lot of the other health products
that people should be getting that probably don't because they're
too much, too busy stocking up on the toilet paper,
you know. And again I'm I'm really I wish I
was more concerned. Maybe I should be. Maybe I'm gonna
get the coronavirus because I'm not that concerned. Like, but
I've read a lot of the facts. I haven't read
the stories. I've read the facts and the facts unless

(01:07:34):
they're complete bullshit, and maybe they are, you know, deep
state conspiracy. There's a lot of people peddling panic and
it reminds me to a degree, and maybe this will
be proven correct. All these people, these doomsday prophecies that
people are spreading from the science community will be proven correct,
and you know, this will wipe out the you know,
general population, and this will be terrible and many of

(01:07:55):
us are going to die and all that stuff, or
it's going to be like back in year two thousand.
I remember, in the lead up to it was y
two k and there were people respected people in the
science community that we're getting on radio and television talking
about how they you know, you better bunker down by
the same thing, by water, by toilet paper, because everything's

(01:08:17):
gonna shut down. Once we flipped from the year two
thousand and uh, nothing fucking happened. Nothing happened. Now again,
that's different. This is a pandemic. Um, so we'll see.
But but it's a pandemic. It's not an apocalypse. It
shouldn't cause the markets to tank like this. But people,

(01:08:37):
it's being fueled by social media. It's like dry brush
and you throw some lighter fluid and lighting on fire.
It's gonna it's gonna go pretty far. It's gonna go
pretty far. See what else do we have about Kevin writes.
He says, I moved to Norway. I can now listen
to your entire show. Uh in the mornings. You're on
an Oslo, Norway in the morning, the capital. Look at

(01:09:00):
that and I loved you on Radio Sports in New
Zealand when he lived in New Zealand. He's from the US.
He says he likes listening to the show. In the
podcast A Slice of Home in a Crazy World, all Right, well,
thank you, Kevin, that's cool. That's pretty neat. Like Mike
from Cleveland rights in just heard a sketcher's commercial. When
did Tony Romo become an NFL legend when he dropped

(01:09:23):
the snap? Was that we become you're a dick? Uh?
I like, I like Romo, but anything for a commercial.
Jordan and Seattle rights and says, Ben, what do you
think of the state of sportsmanship? And you sports referees
are in deep shortage due to the lack of sportsmanship
in this country, is what he says. Yeah, you know,

(01:09:46):
I I believe in showmanship in bravado when you get
to the professional ranks. But yeah, when you're a kid,
these are life lessons, right, You're supposed to follow certain guidelines.
The parents. Man, you go to these youth sporting it's
a parents have just completely unhinged. Maybe every call, every
officials out to get him and all that. I I

(01:10:06):
I was very briefly in a y s o referee
because I wanted the uniform and uh and I was
a soccer referee when I was like a teenager. You
could do it, and it was at the bocle. I
think I'd be a pretty good umpire, though I think
I'd be pretty I'd be like the old umpire died
years ago. Durwood Meryll, great turning point. I when I

(01:10:30):
was a kid, I used to go to Angel games
all the time at liut To Orange County, and I
would sneak down in like the seventh inning, right behind
the dugouts, and Drwood Meryll, I am convinced, pointed at
me like seven times in a row. He like stared
at me and point strike. It's pretty good. And and
here I am, all these years later, I still have

(01:10:51):
this very vivid memory of of that. So all right,
what do email do you have? Go ahead? What do I? God?
I got you said you had some How about the
high how about the highway patrol guy that loves the show,
he likes me, doesn't like you. That's your That's our
first c HP, right, Yes, that's our first c HP.
Because we were talking about what we're talking about last week.
I told you why I need a c HP guy

(01:11:12):
to vouch for me because I get like pulled over,
you know, because like this with your wife. Because your
wife has the get out of Yeah she's got get
out of jail free. But I need like a good
c HP guy to help me out, and I asked him.
I think I jokingly said, hey, maybe you can send
me a business card or something like that. But I
don't think you responded. Our good friend, more so mine
than yours. But I'm a pilot, you got you have

(01:11:35):
been all over this guy. Let let it go. We've
been we've been talking, we've been communicating. I think this
is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. You gotta be
kidding me. Why are you being frustrated because you're it's
obvious what you're doing. What am I doing? You're like,
you know, I've I've known you. You're making a move
out of certain women have this in their playbook. You're

(01:11:59):
an opportunity. You know, You're the woman that goes in
the bar and scans the room and tries to determine
who's got the most power or influence. And That's where
I'm gonna go. So I'm trying to do this with
the pilot. You're saying, is it a coincidence, guest, that
since you started flirting with the pilot that the travel

(01:12:20):
industry has gone in the shiitter. No, it's it's not
that right. I mean, there are these things unrelated. Are
these events unrelated or are they related the curse of
gascon Uh. You know, for years, for the last fifty years,
if you had friend a friend that was a pirate pilot,
you've been pretty good shape. You've been pretty good shape.
Now they're canceling all kinds of flights. No one wants

(01:12:42):
to travel anywhere. They're they're traveling to Petree dishes and uh.
And now now you've become friends with the pilot. I
just think, logerhead, I'm I'm bonding, That's what I'm doing. Anyways,
he was reverting back to our our conversation last week
about baseball cards and collect a bulls, and he wanted
to know what he should do because he has a

(01:13:04):
box of cards that includes like Cecil Fielder, Ben McDonald,
the Ricky Jordan's. Uh. But he has all these cards
and he has nothing to do with him now because
the value has decreased so much on him. What do
you think he should do with him? All Right, So
I'm in the same position. I'm I believe around the

(01:13:25):
same age as I'm a pilot. So I've lived the
same life. I invested in Ken Griffe Jr. Upper Deck
rookie cards. I invested in Billy Ripkin fuck face on
the end of the bat cards I had. All of
those had the reverse negative Dale Murphy card that was
worth a lot of money. And so I I have
at my my my dad's house. My dad complains all

(01:13:47):
the time, you got all these baseball cards, you want them.
I'll drive him to your house, you know. And I'm like, no, no,
we'll just leave him there. We'll just leave him there. Um,
but you gotta go through. There's probably some stuff that's
worth money, Like I have. The most valuable cards I
have are the Michael Jordan's second year card, which I
don't know how much it's worth now. It was worth

(01:14:07):
a lot of money. Last I checked, No, basketball cards
were not very popular at all. Um. I don't think
it was upper deck it was I had. I had
like a Bill Walton rookie card, and uh yeah, that's
outside a few of them. But that was just dumb luck.

(01:14:27):
Like I just bought a couple of boxes of basketball
cards and they weren't really popular. Baseball cards were popular.
Basketball cards weren't popular. Football cards weren't really popular. Was
only baseball it was popular. But as far as what
you should do with it. I would go through and
try to figure out if there anything is worth something.
I bet you that you have something's worth some money.
Sell that and then the rest of it. You can

(01:14:49):
dig a hole in your backyard with a shovel, put
it all in the hole in like a time capsule,
and then cover the dirt and then uh say your
final prayers. Put it in a will. That's what you
should do. Well, you can make if you really want
to give it away. You can go to like a
card show and say hey, I got this, or try
putting on an eBay and say, you know, for two bucks,

(01:15:10):
i'll'll be an entire card collection. You know, something like that.
Somebody might buy it. Not bad. How about this Jay Scoop,
He has a question for both of us. Great j Scoop,
winner of the back to back Talent show from Seattle, Washington,
Great City Seattle. I love Seattle. Good dude, he says,
I'm slowly approaching the release of my band's debut album
and a road tour. It's probably gonna be canceled, but
I realized that our band name kind of sucks. At

(01:15:30):
least it's not good enough. Right now, is the best
time to make a change before too long. Needs something
catchy but not dumb and inspires a fun logo and
T shirt designs. If you had to pick a band name,
what would it be. I'll go first and I'll see
Emerald Hayes would be a good Emerald Hayes. I'm sure
there's a band already named Emerald has. I don't know.

(01:15:52):
Maybe I don't know. I'm not big enough. I don't know.
I'll have to look that up. You have to look
that up. Well, he needs something that has to do
with muscle, don't you. I mean you want to show
that you're strong and powerful. You know what I mean?
Day Is it really a strong name? Or well, I'm okay,

(01:16:13):
Emerald Hands. That's a cannabis company. Uh, well, it would
be a good band name. I was trying to think here,
Mortal Kombat. How about Mortal Kombat the bad with the band?
Would that work? We're gonna do with the can instead
of a see Or how about Crack Commandos? Would that
be good? Like the eight Team back into Day the
Crack Commando. You're defecating on the idea of giving Jay

(01:16:35):
Scoop's band a name, But no, I'm I want to
see Jay Scoop do very well. I would be No,
I would be so happy if Jay Scoop moved up
to like ruse F level and became like that band
just took off and became massively big and and then
I could brag that my friends that I knew Jay
Scoop before he became this almighty, all powerful music mogul opportunitists.

(01:16:59):
That would be be great. Well, no, I don't. That's
not like Russef does anything for me, you know what
I mean, nothing really going on. He's a fan of
the show and he still listens. He's a good human
being because he likes the Clippers, you know, and all
that band. Don't they have a band name Generators on
the internet. Don't they have that? Probably? Don't be lazy.
You were just boasting about your improv skills like two

(01:17:20):
days ago, and all of a sudden you have nothing
in the time. How about how about how about a
band called status Quo? Would that be good? No, you
don't like status Quo? That doesn't work, that's not lame.
How about Bridge to Nowhere? That'd be good. Right, Bridge
to Nowhere that's actually pretty good. That's not bad. Bridge
to nowhere. You know it's I don't know. You could

(01:17:42):
do that. You could do um. I don't know what's
that political to pork barrel pork barrel spending? How about
just pork barrel spending? Is your name of your band? Man?
I don't know. How about white whale? No? No, two.
People search for the white whale the entire lives. They
never see the white whale. Yeah, they might think it's

(01:18:02):
discrimination against other kind of whales or fat people maybe,
and calling people fat uninclusive term. How about law of
karma as a name of a band? Would that be good?
Law of karma? I got cause and effect that? No, No,

(01:18:23):
you don't like cause and effect. I like your original
one better? All right? Anything else you got there, buddy?
Any other band names you want to come up with here? No? No,
I don't think I was looking at emails. Terry sent
to an email to me, just you know, patting me
on the back. I thought it was a good job
by him. Terry's get the coronavirus. Shut up? He must.

(01:18:43):
Are you getting mad that some of your listeners are
actually applauding me? Well, they say there's a certain percentage
of society that just completely gets brainwashed by anything, and
so you're getting those people, those very few people that
are not discerning customers of audio content, and they're falling
for you. I am I am the I'm Vegas here,

(01:19:05):
you're the you're the joke public, and I'm Vegas. That's right.
I am the man of the people. You are correct,
You're finally getting it here. I am the working class
people's talk shows. You got the sharps that come my way,
and you get the you get the lively chalk that
goes your way. So I'll go back to the coronavirus briefly.
So the business I work in sports radio. I've been

(01:19:29):
texting some friends of mine and we were trying to determine, like,
what's gonna happen next in our business because we're worried
about ourselves. Do the ratings go up? Do we have
more people listing in the next month, even though there's
no sports going on because of a curiosity, be boredom

(01:19:49):
and you need something to do to entertain yourself. I mean,
is that possibly? Or are we just talking to ourselves here?
Are we? You know, I'd be better off going out
and talking into a garden hose. More people would hear me.
Every show is different. But like your show is that
dynamic show where you get other ones are straight like
talk at you radio. So I think every show is

(01:20:12):
different because you listen to a lot across the United States.
There's certain shows and hosts that only talk at you.
Others are more of like a morning style, free flowing
type of environment. Yours doesn't like that. Yeah, and as
long as commerce continues, Like I'm assuming that the truck
drivers are a lot of truck drivers that drive around
having to deliver toilet paper at the stores and ship

(01:20:35):
like that. So they have to be up driving all
night and all that. So we got them. That's a
captive audience. Yeah. The guys in prison, they can't go anywhere.
Law enforcement enforcement still has to work, yeah, public servants, firefighter, um,
government officials. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, So I think, well, I
think we'll be okay. And uh, the other thing that

(01:20:55):
it's it's really goes back to what we were talking
about earlier with human nature. UM. I know from from
the past scandal, death pandemic that it's human nature at
a primal level. You actually listen more people want to hear,
they want to consume this communal experience, and since you

(01:21:18):
can't actually get together in public in a lot of
these places where the coronavirus is raged on, it's a
way to get everyone together without actually touching each other
and being in the same room and listen to the radio,
which is kind of cool. Yeah, you know what I
called the first round the Big West Conference Tournament on
Tuesday night inside the Pyramid and long Beach. My condolences,
humble Brad gascon but Ben, it was an empty gym.

(01:21:40):
And the best part was is my radio call actually
bled into the ESPN calls. It's pretty awesome. That is good. Yeah.
I remember when the White Sox played the Orioles five
years ago and they had no fans and the broadcasters
were they were they started talking in a golf voice
because they realized the players on the field could hear
everything they were saying from the press box because there's
no there was no crowd noise to drown out what

(01:22:02):
the broadcasters are saying. Yeah, that's pretty good. It's pretty wild, man.
We have some study this. You want a little study
this real you your former executive producer, Robert Gara has
has just told me to get the funk out of here.
Is that right? Yeah? Fuck him. Let's do study this
all right. Let's see here. What what percentage of workers

(01:22:24):
are too intimidated to tell their boss about problems? I'd say,
I'd say hi, I'd probably not that high, but high
sixty of employees say they are too intimidate to tell
their boss about problems. I would say I'm in that category,
but not because I'm intimidated by my boss. My bosses

(01:22:44):
are pretty cool. But I've experienced in my professional career
that out of sight, out of mind is not a
bad thing. That once you get on the radar of
your boss, then they start snooping around. You know what
I mean. You know, they don't really think much about
the overnight show. But if I start saying, hey, I
got a problem with you know so and so, then

(01:23:06):
they start snooping around and it creates other problems. You
know what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean it's part of
the reason why you brought me on during the summer
of night to be your producer, because you need some helps.
So I appreciate that I felt bad for you. Toss
a dog a bone, you don't feel what percentage of

(01:23:26):
Americans claim they watch television with their pet. Fuck um
women with cats, I'd say, I don't know. Yeah, all right,
it's forty six percent. This is bullshit. Pets don't watch television,
they all um. I have my my dog Bella, Bye
bye Carbella m When we're watching TV at the house,

(01:23:48):
and Bella will be in the room hanging out bellows
like staring at us, waiting us for for us to
eat something and drop food, not staring at the TV.
So I guess technically in the room but not really
watching the the TV. Alright. New studies reveals how many
years does it take to reach best friends status? Two? No,

(01:24:09):
you're wrong, four years? Who study says four years you
become a best friend. So that means you're not anywhere.
You cannot be my best friend. Cannot be my best friend. Uh,
let's see here. A new study shows a veanism is
up by three in the US. Nine point seven million

(01:24:30):
Americans now claim to be plant based if they watch
superci to. I might believe that, yeah, but that doesn't
mean you're healthy. That's like another like my dad eats
vegetarian burgers all the time, and it's filled with ship
filled with chemicals. You can put the vegetarian burgers. You
put that MSG in their boom. You're good, right, sprinkle

(01:24:55):
that on everything. I get a dash of MSG with
my fries, please, Yeah, exactly all right. New survey revealed
what percentage of Americans claim they have thrown out their
partners stuff after a heated argument. Oh man, um, you know,
I'll go low with this. I'll go like so you think, yes,

(01:25:16):
all right, it is low, but it's it's a little
lower than that. That's a real douchebag move to throw
somebody's stuff out. I mean, that's that's psychotic. Yes, yeah,
you've never done that, have you. No? I've kept some
stuff too, but little souvenirs, trinkets. Yeah, I got you,

(01:25:36):
all right. A new survey says half of all Americans
would rather pay somebody to do this for them instead
of doing it themselves. Clean their house, no laundrey, no
one more. Guess, wash their car? Yes, how about that

(01:25:57):
gas car? Wash their car? Yeah. I don't mind watching
my car. I just feel like the process takes too long.
We should expedite the process of washing the car because
I like to do it right. You know, I want
to watch the inside the outside. I'm a big watch
the inside guy. All right, last study this and it's
about art. Check this out. According to new research, in

(01:26:20):
twenty three million American adults took an art class or
art lessons. That is more than the total number of
people that attended an NFL game that year. So the
art community is braggadocious here, guesscon that art is. I
would like to think that art is bigger than the NFL.
Right is because because the art classes are year round,

(01:26:43):
art lessons are year around. The NFL plays in the
only one game a week, and they play only part
of the year, of course, and of course now they
might not play at all. Yeah. XFL announced that they
canceled their suspended their season too. So XFL, NHL, NBA,
Major League Baseball, college athletics. Can I get a raise

(01:27:05):
to my bosses because I I I still got four
hours whether they're playing or not. You know, maybe I
should only do two hours. You just do two hours.
The best thing with this pandemic going on right now, Ben,
is all you got is me. That's the best thing
about it. I got nothing. I got nothing. Now you
you got your you get your trusty sidekick, you got
that pistol, you got that Uh that was snapper in

(01:27:27):
your corner. So you're a lot of water gun. That
is what I get. You're a water gun? What you are?
What's that? I said? Bullshit? You do? Yeah, you know
what you are. You're like going to combat on one
side has hand grenades and my side has bean bags.
You're a bean bag, is what you are. You know.
I'm like the I'm like white Earb's peacemaker. That's exactly
what I am. Like a little court from Colt forty
five action for you. Yeah, anyways, all right, we'll put

(01:27:50):
the baby to bed. Yes, yes, all right, listen, be safe.
We gotta be followed on Instagram, Twitter, Yeah, yeah, follow
me on Instagram, Ben Maller on Fox, on in Instagram.
I need to get my followers up. Ben Mallard on Fox.
On Instagram, uh, and on Twitter Ben Maller. And on
Facebook It's Ben Maller Show. Yes. So I've got three

(01:28:11):
different names for each platform, which is really not what
you're supposed to do. I just realized that. I just
realized that every platform has a different name. It's crazy,
all right, And you're on their gag on right. The
gag on Instagram is at Dave Gascont gag on Twitter
is at David J. Gascon Uh. And I don't use

(01:28:33):
Facebook because I'm not a nerd. So yeah, it's you know,
I don't know. You don't want to relate to your
your old grandpa, grandma, uncle's aunts, cousins. I actually used
the telephone. I texted him, I call him. I don't
use the telephone. You could get the coronavirus using your phone.
All right, listen, have a great weekend. Get be safe boy.

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If you really wanna, you want to tune into a
car wreck, listen to some sports radio over the next
couple of weeks. It is going to be amazing. I
am going to go deep in my bagg of tricks.
Like I said earlier, I'm gonna do every hack thing
to fill time you can possibly want. But anyway, have
good weeken. We'll talk to you next time. Thanks,

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