April 24, 2020 • 47 mins
If ever there was a guy that makes Twitter better for us all, Ben has found him. A trickster and troll of sorts, whatever he may be, he's a hero to many in the social media universe. We waste words with this, but let Ben and his silenced wingman take it away with someone who causes some healthy drama. Make sure to subscribe, rate, and post a review of the podcast whenever you get the chance.
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and the numbers have gone up partly because we're doing
more podcasts and I am joined by David gas Can Gascon.
It's another day, Ben. I'm happy to be here slaving
away over a hot microphone. Don't be steal that's Tom
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Looney's trademark. Material materials from somebody. No, Loony's not a thief.
I've known Looney for twenty plus years. That guy doesn't
steal material. He only steals stuff from me, that's it.
But he doesn't steal stuff from anybody else. All materials
stolen material, one away or another, not all materials material.
There's original content. I know you've never come up with
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original content, but there is original content that is out
there in the world. It does exist. Yeah, on this podcast,
it exists. Other podcasts, other shows maybe not so much.
I don't know what the other shows are doing. And
I don't give a crap with the Garden Variety podcast
and the generic radio shows are doing. I've never, uh
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never really worried about that, you know. And I gotta
tell you a guest gun. Since this pandemic started, I
did a lot of my audio content listening when I
would listen to competitors and other people, and I did
that in the car, and I had like a very
long commute into the Geico Fox Sports Radio studios. But
somehow for the last forty something days, I have not
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had that commute, so I have not been listening to
much of my competition. But I have heard that there's
many people right now who are drowning in in the sea.
They're out in the Middle Atlantic or the Pacific, and
they are apparently overmatched and they're gasping for breath gas
gun And I've been told by members of the Mallam
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militia who are always listening that it is cringe worthy,
not of course at Fox Sports Radio, but some of
the other people that work at the competing networks are
sputtering and they're taking els every segment here. So I
don't know if that's true or not. And I guess
in a way it would be schadenfreud if that's the case, right,
taking joy and and and celebrating other people's misery. Yeah, Well,
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since you don't make the community to work, I can
attest to what I hear on the radio. Now, since
I drive to work here, I me me, I, I, I,
David Gascon puts the eye in sports Tyle put the
I and David as well. I drive at least seventy
four miles to and from work every nearly every single day,
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and so I listened to sports talk radio. There's this
fascinating thing that hosts have done leading up to the
NFL Draft. Um, well, they'll actually have people on their
entire show and they will pretend like each of them
are part of the NFL teams, all thirty two teams
in the first round the NFL Draft. Bett Maller has
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the a f C West, David Gascon has the NFC South,
and then almost sud we do a mock draft. No, No,
that's reckless, irresponsible and malicious out there. And then this
is list radio on steroids. That's what it is. Version
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of list radio. It sucks. Now before somebody says, hey, mother,
you did that, there was we did a bit the
other day that happened organically. This guy Frank in l
a big mallon Milissia. Guy and Frank I've known. I
don't really know him. I know him a little bit.
I've met him a few times. He works at Dodger Stadium,
and Staples Center, so we haven't been working and he's like, hey,
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we were doing these updates on the vending machine, so
how about like give up vending machine draft. So we
did like a segment where we were trying to guess
which item would be taken out of the vending machine first,
and Eddie had the number one pick and he picked
the Rito's, and then I had the number two pick.
I went Famous Amos, and then Cooper Loop and I
forget what Roberto picked, but Coop picked the sun Ships,
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which was a terrible pick in the thing. But I
mean it was it was like one segment of radio
that we did, and it was just I didn't plan
it out. It wasn't like we had scripted it out,
and he just kind of happened. And to be fair,
it's a little bit different because we can't leave the studio.
That's the only thing that we can eat. No no,
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But I thought I was very proud of it. I
thought it was a good bit. Frank inspired it, but
I thought I though it was pretty funny. And then
Coop's like accusing me of cheating because he said that
there were only like four packs of Famous Amos in
that row and then there were some other cookies, and
then Eddie's like Eddie chimes, and of course you know
Eddie who thinks I'm always cheating, so paranoid. He's got
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this complex when he thinks I'm cheating about everything, So
then it becomes convoluted, right, and this whole thing it's
like perplexing to Eddie, and he's like, well, the whole
row has gotta be gone. We didn't draft a row.
We drafted a single food item, and all I had,
guests go on hand to god, all I had was
a photo that I think it was producer Vince sent out,
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and that's it. I I was just looking at the
photo Vince set out. I haven't been there in a while.
Hopefully I will be able to go back soon, but
I haven't been in a while. And so you know,
it's like, that's all I had. And these guys are
accusing me of conspiring to cheat at a fucking video
a picture bit that we did off a fending machine. Well,
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let me let me give you a little bit of inset.
Let me give you some some trade secrets here. The
sec probably wouldn't be happy with this. Um. The day
that producer Vince had twittered out that photo. That same night,
I worked here at the Geico Fox Sports radio studios,
and I immediately raided that vending machine. I took four
kit cats and two cheese. It's so it just it
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heads up. When this thing circles back to you got
some you get some intel for you because uh, yeah,
it's so you're you're big, You're big cheese. It's guy us. Yeah,
cheesets are great cheese. It's pringles um. I do like Derito's.
But here in the vending machine that usually goes pretty quickly.
So I'll take usually what the guys won't take, and
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that's trail mix, the granilla bar and then the kick
cat because Io the original kick cats. The mint ones. Yeah,
you know, man is one of those things. Like I
like mint. My wife does not like mint. Not a
fan of of the mint. But I'm all about the mint.
And remember the good thing about combining the cheese is
with the chocolate from the candy is the three are
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three favorite food groups are salt, sugar, and fat, right right,
And so you combine the salt of the cheese, it's
with the sugar of the candy, and all you need
is fat and then you're you know, eat like a
side of red meat or something like that. You're good
to go. It's like the perfect meal. Right now. I
know it's a perfect meal. But I always thought of
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you as you know, you're like an artsy farzie guy guess,
and you're like oatmeal, eggs, berries, avocados, that kind of
stuff that's usually what you eat. Well. The best part
is that day when I rated the vending machine, I
was actually I broke the fast that night. It was
I think it's like a twenty two hour fast. I
went to a spot nearby the work studio to eat
some some vegan food, and then immediately after that I
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pounded the sweets. You know, I love the fact that
you are You're like the master of the humble brack.
You are the master. Like I like how you just
randomly work in the fact that, yeah, I was breaking
a twenty two hour fast, that's how it was going.
I like how you slide that in. I like like
I wouldn't notice that you were doing that. I think
the beautiful thing, and you can attest to this is
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when you have a four hour show, your obligation to
not only your staff, but since the network is to
tell a fine story. And that's exactly what I was
doing because I didn't want to leave anything out, so
I came back to the original point of what caused
me to do that. So so you're patting yourself now,
you're patting yourself on the back, the narcissist you are.
You're patting yourself on the back for telling a fine story.
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If if I was patting myself on the back for that,
I would have said, like, this is exactly how it
should have went. But I didn't go according to plan.
I will. I will admit though I had a tremendous
workout in the middle of the day, I was exhausted.
I actually had a fireman tan after on my arms
because you know, working on a tank top and the backyard.
I was fatigued. Man, it was one of those days.
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I was shooting a lot of pounds and adds a muscle,
and then I fasted all day. You have been very,
very proud of me, you know. I love the fastening thing.
I am not that I want to brag like you,
but I think I'm coming up on four hundred fast
since I started this, and I like the fact that
I can eat whatever I want when I don't fast
pretty much. But the problem is I've lost my my
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jumbo sized appetite now, which sucks. It really, I feel
like I'm I'm becoming like everything I hated. Like I
used to be able to eat gratuitous amounts of food
and I would I could never get enough. And now
I actually feel full, which sucks. I never felt full before.
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It's really bothering me, Like I look forward to the
weekend because I have my cheat day where I can
eat whatever I want, and then I don't end up
eating that much, and it's like, what the fuck? You know,
I spend all week not eating, and now on the weekends,
I don't even want to eat. I'm on like the
Buddha diet or something like that. It's crazy. I think
one of the important things that we always learned in
in different facets of the game of sports and entertainment
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and news is is active listening. And I think it's
important to acknowledge you are becoming the things that you
used to hate. I mean, now you're you got these
webcams at your house, We're inquiring about television, you want
to do more? Like absolutely, we love this. You're what
You're you're you're coming on the rifled age of forty five,
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but you are like a seasoned one, like I need
to invest in you. You're like you're like you're like
a double barrel Scotch right now. The Bend Mallory, You're
like thirty five forty You're just you're aging quite well.
I love the evolution because it's taking you a fucking while.
To you, I have said, guesscon I my life. You know,
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who knows what's happened. I could check out at any moment.
But my life is better now in my forties than
it was when I was in my twenties. I was
more of b the obese. I had no no life.
I probably went in from the age of like twenty
to thirty, I average going to two hundred seventy two
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eight possibly three hundred sporting events a year as a
radio guy, reporter, talk show host. And all that I
all I did was I do the radio show, and
I'd go to work. I go to a game, a
Dodger game and Angel game, you know whatever, Lakers, Clippers,
Kings every night. There was a game pretty much during
the year. And it sounds great because I love sports,
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but there's gotta be a little bit of balance in there.
And so but yeah, it's it's wild. How yeah life,
the zigzag of life and all that stuff. And here
it comes, you know, just you know, sweeping into the
second half of your life. You know, first it was
the Misses. First it was Aaron. Then here comes David
Gascon down the straight away and uh, we're just here
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for you, like this is this is an amazing turn.
And so when you write your book, this is the
climax in your book. Yeah, well, I will do a
whole chapter about how pretentious David Guest I put that
in there. That is gonna be there, working with the narcissist. Yeah,
how to handle a conceded human being out of you?
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And I do have some bad news. I actually took
a drive down memory Lane. Is the four oh five freeway. Now,
I remember the four oh five Freeway. I always try
to avoid. That is a point of demarcation, that is
a demilitarized zone. Uh. And and you on one side,
you've got humanity. On the other side, you've got the
one percenters. And you live on the side of the
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one percentage. Yeah, but the unfortunate thing is that we've
got tumbleweeds around our our spot and in Tito's tacos
right now, it is really Yeah, you went to Tito's.
I drove by. I had to take a piece. Not open. No,
Tito is not open, Oh my god. No. And you
get boards up too, so really like, I don't know
if it's boards so people don't break in, or if
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it's boards because they've closed up shop. Really yeah, Like
I think I saw your wife twitting out about an
Italian restaurant you guys go to that's also closing up.
So yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's terrible for the
restaurant business. I mean that Italian place in uh in
East Hollywood. I've been going there for years. Man, I
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love that place. Yeah, that's that's my spot, and uh
it sucks. And you know that's another reason people there
is this great debate, right you know, there's people freaked
out because of health and what's gonna happen. We're worried,
they've im concerned about the coronavit it and then you've
got other people like well, if we don't open up
business soon enough, there's gonna be nothing to come back to.
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So like there's that balance that they have to strike,
which sucks, but I feel terrible for these restaurant guys.
And it's not just restaurant people. I mean, you're talking
about unreal levels of business closing, unemployment. It's out of control. Man,
it's just nuts. Well, people got to eat. But that
also includes the sports world too. And I know that
the guest that you brought on there's an extra scoop
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with something special for the Yeah, I am, I'm excited.
You know this is the podcast is a little extra.
We don't get paid for it. I don't get paid
for it's pro bono work here. In addition to the
radio show. But one of my favorite people I keep
track of on social media is this guy's Sports Talk Bear.
If you've listened to the radio show, you know I've
talked about sports Talk Berry. I have done tributes homages
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to sports Talkberry. He is the king of trolling. He's
the king of of fooling and goofing on real media people,
prominent people who don't pay attention. He exposes the lazy
in sports media with some of his pranks. Over the
last couple of years, he's really become a big social
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media star. I started paying attention to him a couple
of years ago, and I have been a fan ever since,
although it's hard to keep track of him because he
has to bounce all over the place. It's like a
whack a mole game, uh, with the Twitter accounts to
keep getting shutting, shut it down. But he's the king
of sports comedy, and so let's give it up to
Sports Talk Barry, and I guess Barry. The first question
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that must be asked is how did this whole thing begin?
How did the sports talk very character start. Well, it's uh,
kind of an interesting journey I've had on Twitter over
the last seven years or so. I started off by
the name sports Talk Joe, and I was I had
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my real faith as my abby and I basically had
the same you know, liked that went by Joe. That's
what it was. And for about four years or so,
four and half five years, I was basically just a
guy like another sports tweeter, your average sports tweeter. I
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had around a couple of thousand, nine thousand and ten followers,
and that's pretty much what it was like for the
first four and a half five years. And then finally
about two years ago, I decided, hey, you know why
don't I switched up a little, but why don't I
try something different? And so I was looking, Yeah, h dirty,
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funny names, and I wanted one that wasn't completely obvious
like bend Over, Mike Hunter or anything like that where
it would kind of give it away right away. So
I was looking through all these dirty names and I
found one that was Barry McCain and I was like,
oh wait. Even though I had to take a step
back for a second and read it over again, I
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was like, oh, yeah, that's great. And there's been plenty
of examples over the past few years where some people
will follow me for like months at a time, and
they'll be in my mentions like I just realized what
your name is. And so that's why that's always that's
always a it's an honor when I hear that. But
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so that was how I got the name, just I
just found I touched, thought it was funny. That's how
I got the name Barry mc and uh, that's why
I started to go by sports dock Berry. And anybody
who knows about Sports dock Berry knows that you know
the Abbey, and the Abbey is uh an actor who
portrayed the doctor in this really really seedy looking commercial
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that airs for this place called the Addiction Network, and
there was this again like this this commercial had I've
seen this commercial thousands of times over the previous three
or four years, and I for the longest time I
thought it was just like some crappy vocal commercial because
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the production quality on it was just so bad. And
so I decided the screenshot a pick of the the
actor of the doctor in the commercial, and I treated
a posted on Twitter and a bunch of my fathers like, oh, yeah,
I know that guy. I see that guy's commercials, and
I thought, well, this is kind of interesting. So it
just it kind of It wasn't really planned, but I decided,
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why don't I just make this guy my new abbey?
And so when you parted that with the name, it
just kind of work and one thing led to another
and I lose. Basically, my profile just just exploded into
I had you know, seventy thou followers than of nowhere.
Really be sure to catch live editions of The Ben
Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven p m.
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Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Yeah,
and you have become a Twitter legend. But there are
good things and bad things about that. I know I
from doing the radio show. Uh it's a cesspool and
just get bombarded with with trolls. So but you've always
got to be on the move right. You've gotta be
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a step ahead of the Twitter Rozzie that are out
to get you. Not only you've got two things right,
because you've got the knuckleheads that are are gonna not
like what you're doing, and then you've got the Twitter
police who keep shutting you down. So you have to
you have to hide in the shadows a little bit.
I'll tell you what it's been. That's obviously been by
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far the most frustrating parts that Twitter is because at
the core of what I do, I was trolling all
this stuff I tweet. I do it because I'd like
making people laugh and I like enjoying. I like making
people day better, aim in the smallest sort of way.
And when somebody tells me, hey, you know your tweets
make me laugh, Your tweaty day better, that's really what
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I do it for. And obviously you know making money
is in pat either, but uh, the the feeling of
of you you build up all these followers and you
make a lot of content that people enjoy, and you
build up, you know, hundreds of thousands of followers. I've
had maybe I got to like over twenty accounts now
because they keep getting suspended, and it's been in that
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same way and everthing, even since you followed me. I'm
can suspended a few times. So yeah, well, in fact,
i've actually, yeah, I've had I write your number down.
We were trying to schedule this interview, and then I
went back and I was like trying to go through
because I didn't write it down right away, and then
the account that you we were talking on was gone,
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So then I was like trying to I was trying
to scramble to find the number to get a hold
of you. And this I think you've had five or
six It seems like you've had five or six maybe
not just since we started communicating, you've bounced all over
the place because like, do they have they given you
any guidelines that they say that you're banned because you're
doing these pranks? Or is it are people reporting you?
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What do you think the reason is that you keep
getting thrown into the Twitter jail? Well, Twitter has this
ridiculous evading suspension policy. And my my original account, which
I had for three or three and after years, like
I got the account in like many I remember exactly
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when I got it because I'm a big NBA fan,
and that was during Conference finals between the Pacers and
the Heat. I remember it like yesterday, so it was
like mayen and it got it didn't get suspended until
like right after the election, and so really said sometimes
you've seen elections. So that's what about almost three and
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a half three and a half years now, Over the
last three and a half years, I've had about, I
guess over at least over twenty accounts because Twitter has
this thing where if you suspended originally and you come
back and make a new account, it doesn't necessarily matter
if you make any content on that new account that
violates the guideline. It's the fact that you even made
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a new account in the first place. So the fact
basically all my accounts now are like taking time bombs
because and it's not people think, WoT you like, stop
getting suspended, stops tweeting stuff that it gets you suspended,
And I keep calling them like, guy, I don't tweet
stuff that gets me suspended. It's just I don't like it.
Just that's just how Twitter's were like they find out
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who they somehow find out that it's me again, and
then they know, they go right to work and banning me.
And as I was saying before, its incredibly frustrating when
you build up these huge accounts, followings and then it
just gets new by Twitter and you didn't even It's
not even because you did anything offensive. It's not because
you said anything offensive or you did something tomorrow. It's
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just it's just that you're doing You're evading the stupid
evading suspension. I mean, it makes no sense. And so
but that's why, you know, recently I've started to really uh,
I've started to really push my YouTube channel out more.
I've started to uh, I started to really promote my
back up accounts more because I on Twitter, because I
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know that, uh, you know, I'm sick of starting over
from scratch, so I'm thinking, well, I might as well
get ahead of Twitter before, so I don't have to
start over from zero followers every single time. Now I
can start a new account with Be sure to catch
live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two
am Eastern eleven p m. Pacific. Well, you've got to
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be proud though, because I've I've heard you know, I
worked in the radio business a long time, and I've
heard some guys recently in the last couple of years
since you really hit the sports talk berry thing a
big and you have hornswaggled many of the people I know,
and they and I love it because now they have
to they actually have to pay attention more and they
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have to say blue checkmark. I've heard guys on the
air say blue checkmark because the greatest thing to me,
the thing I find the most enjoyable about your stuff.
And and you know, having worked with a lot of
people who are unfortunately very lazy in sports media, and
you know, it's the easiest thing in the world just
look for a blue checkmark. But it's shocking how many
people don't even see it, and then they get completely
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bamboozled by something that you put out there. It's it's fascinating.
It's a fascinating thing for me. I laugh. I think
it's great. Yeah, that's why that's a lot of people
ask the people who don't don't like me doing that's
and I always say, well, no, because it's it's funny.
It first, what's funny, Like, I find it funny that,
like you said, uh, you know a lot of people
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whose one job is to get the accurate news out
there can't take to two seconds, not even that, to
check if the sources legit. So it's like if you can't,
you don't get mad at me when I make a
tweet and you weren't careful enough to check it. And
it's not like it's not like I'm doing anything malicious
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or anything like that. It's just, you know, it doesn't
it doesn't hurt anybody. It's not like I'm, um, you know,
doing anything illegal. It's just, you know, just check your
sources better, man, you know, well exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And
the other the other thing too, is and I'll give
you credit for this, is that you're you're on You
had a pretty good pulse of you. You have a
pretty good idea of what's gonna go big and uh,
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like the Kaepernick stuff a couple of weeks ago, that's
always low hanging fruit. Um, so you're you're right in
the in the wheelhouse where people are looking for stories
and then he sees something and then they're like, oh,
you know, they get so excited, especially now because of
what's going on with the coronavirus, where people are looking
for sports stuff, and then you're you know, how much
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time him do you spend going through this stuff to
try to figure out what you're gonna tweet out? Um? Well,
a lot of it is just spur of the moment things.
And there rather thing about the the Kaepernick tweet. I
think that last week or whatever it was in my
prior account, I was basically on a on a heater
for a few days there where it was like every
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everything I did just fooled a bunch of people. The
Kaepernick one was obviously the most popular one, but I
hadn't one about Cam Newton going to the Patriots. There
was one about Bronck going to the box, which was
before it's time. There was another one about a tager
Boloag having an arrest morant because he was violating social
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distancing guidelines, which Tom Brady just did the other day.
And so it is kind of weird how and a
lot of the stuff that I do tweet actually ends
up later on happening. Um. But in terms of like
how do I know what tweet? I don't know just
I always say, you have to make it. I always
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go for you have to make it just plausible enough,
but you kind of have, but it's not really it's
not really funny if it's just I don't really like
doing just plain old fake interactions. I like to throw
in some type of humorous element into it if I can,
because that just makes you even funny. Like another one
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I did was, you know, Rudy Gobert spread the COVID
my team virus by kissing teammates something the whips and
I'm trying, I'm pretending to be road Adrian Lossky and
that that I had people that my mentions all the time, like,
oh my god, I can't believe Rudy Gobert was kissing teammates,
And like it's just one of the things where I'd
like to add a humorous element if I can, but
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I make it just realistic enough. And that's what I
always aimed for, um, And you know, that's that's why
I always trying to go for. I don't really have
a set a set plan or I don't really think
about lot if there's ahead of time, but you know,
night like tonight where he got the NFL Draft This
is like the holiday for trolls like me. Fox Sports
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another chance. What is what do you consider your masterpiece?
I love the Kaepernick thing, which is a couple of
weeks ago when you had I think it was Donna
(28:29):
Brazil from you know, a big political democratic person. She
she retweeted what you would say, who's the one that
shocked you the most? That you know, whether it doesn't
have to be a media person, but somebody in the
politics or whatever that that fell for a sports talk
Verry prank. Well, but the uh that Donna Brazil one
(28:49):
was was surprised because she's probably the biggest that I
poled us far on any one of my tweets, and
before it before I get in tonight, my most famous
for that. I had to say. The interesting thing about
the Kaepernick troll, you know, the thing with the entire
graphic with the Jets men is that I literally did
(29:09):
that same exact troll like nine or ten months ago
with the sham exact graphic and back then it fulled
a bunch of people too, So it was it was
it wasn't like a new troll, it was a recycled troll,
and it still blew up there a second time. Well,
you know, I have I have a theory. Actually, I
have a theory here when it comes to Kaepernick. There's
(29:30):
so many people that have this derangement syndrome that believe
he's got to be back in the NFL that any
time they see any story related to Kaepernick, they get excited,
like this is their hero. And so you're you're tugging
people's heart strings here, because I hear that all the time.
You're doing the radio show. Every once in a while,
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bring up Kaepernick's name, and a certain percentage of people
just freak out there. Anytime they just hear his name,
they're like, oh, we gotta get him back in the
NFL's wild. It's really yeah. I mean that it's the
same thing. It's the same thing with with Trump as well.
And that's why I try to every now and then
I'll try to incorporate, like, uh, an athlete kind of
(30:11):
supporting Trump because I know it's I know how volatile
just that name is to a lot of people, and
and when it comes to politics, I don't I don't
necessarily prescribe to any particular party because I really followed politics.
I don't know about I think a lot of it's
just bullshit. Uh But but I know obviously, you know,
(30:32):
Trump is a very polarizing figure, and I know that
cap makes it very polarizing figures. So so I know
usually when I do that, when I make a troll
featuring those guys, that it's going to do well. But
to go back to your original question about what's my
my most famous one that I've ever done, my whole
famous stroll, I think any of my long time followers
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and people who have followed me for a long time,
I would agree that at the troll that I got
skipped bayliss On, which was last June, right after its
final it was a troll where and this was around
the same time when the entire Chris Paul James Harden
drama was coming about with the rocket and oh, you know,
(31:19):
Chris Paul wants out and all that stuff. So I
took advantage of that where I made this fake story
about how Chris Paul I made by the stake dread
where I was impersonating Roganowski again and I basically had
this dread where I said, you know, Chris Paul was
making fun of James Harden's man boobs and he had
(31:39):
hardened running out of Jim crying several times. And I
made this dread and it got a few bites and
it was funny, and but I didn't get anybody like
really really major about it. It just I just all right,
well that's it. And so I changed back to my
normal profile and I went to I went to bed,
and then the next morning I aked up and my
(32:00):
phone's on fire and my notifications are on fire, and
everybody it's like, dude, you fool Skip Bayless, and I
was like, what are you talking about? And they go
look at mys on whatever show he's on now on
this dute like he literally felt for your troll on
national television, and I said, I this can't be right.
I don't want to look at it. And there's it,
there is on national television talking about how Chris Paul's
(32:22):
make fund of James Harden's man proves and if if
you really want to look, if you want to look
at the cliff right now literally on my Twitter account.
That's the most recent thing I treated, which is by chance,
and it's almost it's ten months ago now, but I still, like,
I still can't believe it actually happened. I still don't
know how that happened, Like how that got by the
(32:42):
censors there, and how the the the checking the guys
who's supposed to check the validity. I don't know how
it happened, but I'm glad it happened. And I think,
you know, I necessarily know a lot of my uh
all my followers, my long term followers who have been
here for who have followed me for all the you know,
the account us and all those suspensions that'll that'll go
(33:02):
down and into me for sure. Yeah, So are you
gonna stick to sports Bear? Are you gonna move to
you had some success with politicians? WO mentioned Donna Brazil?
Any chance you branch out become news talk Berry instead
of sports talk Berry? Well? I tried well. When I
was on my heater on what was a couple of
(33:23):
accounts to go now a few weeks ago, I basically
had this U I made this tweet that uh pretended
to be CNN where I was basically I forget the
exact quote, but I basically said, ah, you know, if
you do, if you so, I had something with marijuana
(33:44):
where it's something like study finds that, uh, marijuana is
like a thousand times more dangerous than than the COVID
nineteen dars And you know, I got I got a
few people to fight on a bunch of stoners and
things like that, and I said, you know, if you
do marijuana, they'll make you gay all that stuff. So
I mean, I'll try, I'll try some of it sometimes.
But the thing is, like the political people are there,
(34:08):
there are a lot more serious about it, and it's
a lot more I don't know. I think I every
now and then I'll drift off into political Twitter, but
I usually try to stay within the realm of sports
Twitter because there's a lot of people on political Twitter
that I don't really feel like getting drawled with. But
you know, if if I get, if I get, if
(34:29):
I get a politician or somebody like Don and Brazil
to fall for it, then I certainly would relome that.
And in all honesty, my white whale so to speak
of you know who, people have asked me like, who's
your who's the one person you want to troll that
you haven't trolled yet, and that's Trump. I want. I
want to troll Trump on something because he has the
(34:51):
type of personality where I know that if I can
just get something and I can get him at the
right time with the day or night where he goes
on one of those Twitter you know it was retweeting
rampages that he goes on it right now, and that
I feel like I can get them. So that's my
that's my white will, that's the one I'm chasing. Yeah,
but you know, but hey, we'll have to wait and
see if that ever happens. I hope, Well that's pretty
(35:12):
good and I would advise, you know, as much as
I think it would be hilarious to see the politicians
and the political media um fall for for your stick,
you could actually end up in like real trouble though,
because like they they could prosecute. I mean, you don't
want to mess with the federal government. It's one thing
to mess with Twitter, That's what I like. You know,
(35:32):
from the sports Twitter, it's like it's one thing to
make you know, fake trades and things like that. But
you know, you're talking about actual, real life stuff that
maybe four people it's like, yeah, you're really really walking
a thin line there, Yeah, exactly the extra caful with that?
What is other than Twitter? Have you you've been contacted
by him? If you've got any real trouble with any
(35:53):
of these people that you've been impersonating or is it
just pretty benign, harmless stuff? Uh, honestly, haven't ever? You Surprisingly, no,
I never really have. Basically my only punishment really has
been getting suspended. Um. I think that's maybe a big
reason why I don't really hear from these people, is
because you know, when I do get when I do
(36:15):
an impersonation or whatever, I usually get suspended shortly thereafter,
And so I don't know if they really have a chance.
I will say that that you know, I impersonate in
rapport and I impersonate schefter. Uh and and rappid Fort
especially has been a good sport about it, and he's
interacted with me and responded and replied on a lot
(36:35):
of my accounts that I'll do. And like I said,
a lot of the stuff I do is pretty benign
and it's it's not malicious, Like I'm not going around,
uh you know, making up rumors about like oh well
some of this actual person is actually like a sexual predate,
Like I'm not doing a sexual predator or pedophile, Like,
I'm not doing anything serious. It's just goofy ship. I
think a lot of people realize that. Um So. But yeah,
(36:58):
that's thus far. I haven't ever been contacted or um
gotten really in any trouble besides getting suspended. That's good,
that's good. You know. I had one of my callers
years ago, did a bit on the radio with Stern,
and the FBI came to his door from a radio bit.
(37:19):
Something he said on the d as like, so, but
as long as I think, as long as you stick
to sports, I think you're right now. You mentioned making money,
and that's obviously what this comes down to. You spend
a lot of time sending this stuff out on social media.
I know you've got a YouTube channel. Is that how
you're making money? Is it the YouTube? Like? How do
you how are you gonna capitalize and market the sports
talk very empire. I know you're already underway on that,
(37:40):
but what's what's the end game on this? Well? Um,
like I said, for for the last year and a half,
so though, I've made about around five thousand dollars from
selling merchandise. A lot of that from selling merchant dice
(38:01):
uh and um, that didn't really happen until I got
a big enough following the way I was able to
advertise it, and so I really didn't start that until
a year and a half ago. And that I hadn't
started to monetize uh, my my YouTube account until just
(38:21):
a few months ago. And that's really at least so far.
That's my biggest regret is that I didn't push my
YouTube account sooner because I feel personally that my YouTube
account is going to be my biggest platform in the
future because Twitter can't get me there. Twitter can't to
(38:41):
spend me there, and I always feel like, if I
can just get a decent amount of my followers on
Twitter to my great over its my YouTube. And I'm
already in the last few leagues I've gained, you know,
several thousand subscribers. I wish I had started doing that sooner,
but I really do feel like, uh, in the future,
(39:03):
my YouTube channel is going to be one of the
biggest channels in the world. And that sounds sounds kind
of crazy, but you know, when I first started Twitter,
I never thought that I was going to be you know,
at one point I wanted my accounts. I got up
to a quarter of a million followers, So you know,
it sounds it sounds far fetched. It might sounds farfetched now,
(39:23):
but you know, I believe in my content and I
have a very very dedicated following who you know, they
followed me everywhere I go, despite the fact that I'm
getting suspended pretty regularly. And I think that shows a
lot of staying power on my part. And I think
a lot of people do enjoy my content. And I
think that if I'm able to just continue to grow
my YouTube account, I think that if I ever get
(39:45):
a bigger platform to to show my talent, I think
that a lot of people will see. You know that
this this very guy is is pretty good at what
he does. Yeah, what is there any way? I I
don't know how this goes. I have a very few
dealings with Twitter. I got verified a number of years ago.
But uh, like, can you I wonder if you can
(40:07):
get a hold of somebody a Twitter and end the
game of whack a mole? Like have you have you
thought about that? I mean, I don't know if they
would even be open to that, the people that run Twitter,
but it's it seems like certainly, well, I'd certainly be
into it. I don't know. I don't think there's any
person you can just smell phone and complain. I mean,
but you know, look, you got you got me, And
what I do is do I like fool people, do
(40:29):
a fool blue check marks. Yeah, but you know when
you look at fucking Bill Cosby and fucking O. J.
Simpson are running around Twitter freely, and it's like, oh,
big old you know, big old Barry mcconck is too
dangerous to be kept around. When you got a guy,
you know, Roderick cut his x Y s head off,
and you've got Bill Cosby who's raped talents women still
(40:52):
able to keep their accounts, you know that doesn't That's
when I get pissed. And when that's when I get pisted.
M I started thinking about my accounts getting suspended. I'm like,
I'll try to do to say people laugh, and I
get punished more repeatedly on here than these guys who
are really actually bad people. And Cosby is actually in
jail right now and he's still got his Twitter accounts
sending stuff out. He has a verified Twitter account, believe
(41:13):
it Harbinstein does, so he's never used if he still
has one, it's like they're really they went out of
their way to verify Howdy fucking Weinstein, but real old
Barion cock there is too dangerous to be kept around.
But yeah, I would certainly if I could. I would
definitely love to get someone here at Twitter and say, hey,
can you restore my Sports Talk Barry account, which is
(41:36):
my most famous accounts I've ever had. That was the
one where I got up to around two followers. Uh.
I would. I would love they were able to some
average store that account, But I mean that's the pipe
dream unfortunately, So I guess I'll just have to I'll
just have to keep, you know, persevering for all this
oppression that I have. It's it's just incredibly to the
Twitter oppression clearly. Yes, all right, So any any any
(42:00):
funt I know you YouTube is great and you can
make money on YouTube and selling stuff like that, but
what about going mainstream and I could see like a
sports Talk Berry TV show where you your your prank
and kind of punk athletes and do practical jokes and
all that. Any thought about doing something like that? Well,
like like I said, you know, I've I've always been
(42:22):
confident in my ability to produce good content, and I've
always felt like I just need I just need someone
from a big company or or or who had a
big platform to show faith in me. Um and I
have no doubt that if that happens that I would
(42:43):
I would make somebody's hearing audience very happy because of
my dedicated following, my dedicated fan base. Uh and so yeah,
I was certainly in the future. I mean obviously that
this Corona virus. I don't think anybody in the near
future is going to be doing any any shows like that,
but sometimes certainly, yeah, I mean it's one of my
one of my dreams is too. I think I think
(43:05):
my my biggest goal for the future is I want
to continue to grow my YouTube channel because that's where
I get a lot of my best content out. And
also it's it's the festival world and that I'm able
to show my creative side and I'm able to make
money off of it. But yeah, I would certainly, I
would certainly love to have a show kind of like
a punt or something where I'm able to kind of
(43:29):
show off my skills that as an instigator, I guess
if you want to call it that, but you know,
unfortunately they don't really have they don't have. This is
why I always going through college, I was always like,
what do you want a major in? They're always like,
what do you want a major in? Like, well, I
don't I don't really know. I don't really I'm not
really interested in anything besides sports, Like well, well, why
don't you do something with like sports management, and like, well,
(43:51):
I'm not necessarily sports management. I just like making front
of people. I like sports humor. But unfortunately, they don't
have any majors like that in college, your grad school.
So probably had to form my own niche and hopefully
I just keep, you know, going out and long after
where somebody's finally able to recognize me for for who
I am, because I know that I know that, especially
(44:12):
what compared to you, to a lot of the people
who do have platforms. Now, I know that I'm better
than that, So of course not no, I yes, but
I find your music. I get a kick. I've done
monologues on the radio when you when you the Kaepernick
thing and some of the other ones you fooled a
lot of people. I think it's hilarious and like I
told you earlier, this is the goldilocks zone for a
(44:35):
guy like you. I mean, the next how long this
coronavirus thing last? Hopefully it doesn't last that much longer.
But there the it's kind of like going to the
store and trying to find toilet paper, disinfecting wipes. There's
not a lot of inventory, well in sports right now,
as you know, there's no games, so there's not there's
not too much inventory. So people are are hungry. They're thirsty,
(44:57):
and and you can take advantage. And you have taken
advantage that you've done. Some of your greatest work has
happened recently, So continued success here. Yeah, gugy DOUGYEP, working
hard every day and stay humble and you know all
the other cliches are athletes. Said, that's right, take it
one tweet at a time. I think you have to
do so, Barry, I like, we're gonna put the baby
(45:20):
to bed here. But again, you want to promote your
Twitter account for those that are listening that have never
heard of you and they're not familiar with you, Like,
how can people follow you? What do you advise them
to do? Well? My Twitter account currently as of whatever
to say is, let's let's stay state I lost track
of the days at the time of the sear you're
recording my account. Pick us again. You could go down
(45:42):
nearly any second. My account currently is Handy handle is
Ultra touch Scene and my backup account has the handle
of life Talk berry. Um. I like to also if
I could promote my my YouTube account which is just
goes by the name Barry mcconchner, and uh, my YouTube
(46:06):
account I think is really really and obviously I'm biased
because I'm you know, I'm trying to sell my own
account here, but uh, you know it has there. I
have highlight wheels of guys like Dan Marino and John
l A and Peyton Manning where it's literally just half
an hour half hour worked, the videos that just them
throwing dimes all over the field that you don't see
anywhere else. I got people if you if you hate
(46:29):
jar Jar Binks, I have an in depth breakdown on
episode one where I where I take a big dump
on Jarge are Pinks. I have you know, if you
don't like Tom Brady, which I know a lot of
people don't, I have you know, videos exposing him by
videos take in front of Michael Jordan's competition, which has
been a pretty big topic in sports world lately with
his new documentary going out. So I have a lot
(46:53):
of I have a lot of content on my YouTube
channel that really you wouldn't see anywhere else. And so
I think that if you want if you want good
entertainment and you want good content, you should subscribe to
my YouTube channel right now, Barry mccaking. Her um in
fact is if my subscriber account keeps growing up, I
might have to change that name because I don't know
(47:14):
if it's if it's necessarily TC. But for now it works.
So yeah, very talking on the YouTube channel is where
you want to go. All right, listen, Barry continued success man,
We'll have you on again down the line. And uh
big fans, So thank you, have a have a good weekend.
Thank you YouTube. Then thanks for having me.
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It's another day, Ben. I'm happy to be here slaving
away over a hot microphone. Don't be steal that's Tom
(01:44):
Looney's trademark. Material materials from somebody. No, Loony's not a thief.
I've known Looney for twenty plus years. That guy doesn't
steal material. He only steals stuff from me, that's it.
But he doesn't steal stuff from anybody else. All materials
stolen material, one away or another, not all materials material.
There's original content. I know you've never come up with
(02:06):
original content, but there is original content that is out
there in the world. It does exist. Yeah, on this podcast,
it exists. Other podcasts, other shows maybe not so much.
I don't know what the other shows are doing. And
I don't give a crap with the Garden Variety podcast
and the generic radio shows are doing. I've never, uh
(02:26):
never really worried about that, you know. And I gotta
tell you a guest gun. Since this pandemic started, I
did a lot of my audio content listening when I
would listen to competitors and other people, and I did
that in the car, and I had like a very
long commute into the Geico Fox Sports Radio studios. But
somehow for the last forty something days, I have not
(02:48):
had that commute, so I have not been listening to
much of my competition. But I have heard that there's
many people right now who are drowning in in the sea.
They're out in the Middle Atlantic or the Pacific, and
they are apparently overmatched and they're gasping for breath gas
gun And I've been told by members of the Mallam
(03:09):
militia who are always listening that it is cringe worthy,
not of course at Fox Sports Radio, but some of
the other people that work at the competing networks are
sputtering and they're taking els every segment here. So I
don't know if that's true or not. And I guess
in a way it would be schadenfreud if that's the case, right,
taking joy and and and celebrating other people's misery. Yeah, Well,
(03:31):
since you don't make the community to work, I can
attest to what I hear on the radio. Now, since
I drive to work here, I me me, I, I, I,
David Gascon puts the eye in sports Tyle put the
I and David as well. I drive at least seventy
four miles to and from work every nearly every single day,
(03:55):
and so I listened to sports talk radio. There's this
fascinating thing that hosts have done leading up to the
NFL Draft. Um, well, they'll actually have people on their
entire show and they will pretend like each of them
are part of the NFL teams, all thirty two teams
in the first round the NFL Draft. Bett Maller has
(04:15):
the a f C West, David Gascon has the NFC South,
and then almost sud we do a mock draft. No, No,
that's reckless, irresponsible and malicious out there. And then this
is list radio on steroids. That's what it is. Version
(04:36):
of list radio. It sucks. Now before somebody says, hey, mother,
you did that, there was we did a bit the
other day that happened organically. This guy Frank in l
a big mallon Milissia. Guy and Frank I've known. I
don't really know him. I know him a little bit.
I've met him a few times. He works at Dodger Stadium,
and Staples Center, so we haven't been working and he's like, hey,
(04:57):
we were doing these updates on the vending machine, so
how about like give up vending machine draft. So we
did like a segment where we were trying to guess
which item would be taken out of the vending machine first,
and Eddie had the number one pick and he picked
the Rito's, and then I had the number two pick.
I went Famous Amos, and then Cooper Loop and I
forget what Roberto picked, but Coop picked the sun Ships,
(05:19):
which was a terrible pick in the thing. But I
mean it was it was like one segment of radio
that we did, and it was just I didn't plan
it out. It wasn't like we had scripted it out,
and he just kind of happened. And to be fair,
it's a little bit different because we can't leave the studio.
That's the only thing that we can eat. No no,
(05:39):
But I thought I was very proud of it. I
thought it was a good bit. Frank inspired it, but
I thought I though it was pretty funny. And then
Coop's like accusing me of cheating because he said that
there were only like four packs of Famous Amos in
that row and then there were some other cookies, and
then Eddie's like Eddie chimes, and of course you know
Eddie who thinks I'm always cheating, so paranoid. He's got
(05:59):
this complex when he thinks I'm cheating about everything, So
then it becomes convoluted, right, and this whole thing it's
like perplexing to Eddie, and he's like, well, the whole
row has gotta be gone. We didn't draft a row.
We drafted a single food item, and all I had,
guests go on hand to god, all I had was
a photo that I think it was producer Vince sent out,
(06:21):
and that's it. I I was just looking at the
photo Vince set out. I haven't been there in a while.
Hopefully I will be able to go back soon, but
I haven't been in a while. And so you know,
it's like, that's all I had. And these guys are
accusing me of conspiring to cheat at a fucking video
a picture bit that we did off a fending machine. Well,
(06:42):
let me let me give you a little bit of inset.
Let me give you some some trade secrets here. The
sec probably wouldn't be happy with this. Um. The day
that producer Vince had twittered out that photo. That same night,
I worked here at the Geico Fox Sports radio studios,
and I immediately raided that vending machine. I took four
kit cats and two cheese. It's so it just it
(07:06):
heads up. When this thing circles back to you got
some you get some intel for you because uh, yeah,
it's so you're you're big, You're big cheese. It's guy us. Yeah,
cheesets are great cheese. It's pringles um. I do like Derito's.
But here in the vending machine that usually goes pretty quickly.
So I'll take usually what the guys won't take, and
(07:28):
that's trail mix, the granilla bar and then the kick
cat because Io the original kick cats. The mint ones. Yeah,
you know, man is one of those things. Like I
like mint. My wife does not like mint. Not a
fan of of the mint. But I'm all about the mint.
And remember the good thing about combining the cheese is
with the chocolate from the candy is the three are
(07:52):
three favorite food groups are salt, sugar, and fat, right right,
And so you combine the salt of the cheese, it's
with the sugar of the candy, and all you need
is fat and then you're you know, eat like a
side of red meat or something like that. You're good
to go. It's like the perfect meal. Right now. I
know it's a perfect meal. But I always thought of
(08:12):
you as you know, you're like an artsy farzie guy guess,
and you're like oatmeal, eggs, berries, avocados, that kind of
stuff that's usually what you eat. Well. The best part
is that day when I rated the vending machine, I
was actually I broke the fast that night. It was
I think it's like a twenty two hour fast. I
went to a spot nearby the work studio to eat
some some vegan food, and then immediately after that I
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pounded the sweets. You know, I love the fact that
you are You're like the master of the humble brack.
You are the master. Like I like how you just
randomly work in the fact that, yeah, I was breaking
a twenty two hour fast, that's how it was going.
I like how you slide that in. I like like
I wouldn't notice that you were doing that. I think
the beautiful thing, and you can attest to this is
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when you have a four hour show, your obligation to
not only your staff, but since the network is to
tell a fine story. And that's exactly what I was
doing because I didn't want to leave anything out, so
I came back to the original point of what caused
me to do that. So so you're patting yourself now,
you're patting yourself on the back, the narcissist you are.
You're patting yourself on the back for telling a fine story.
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If if I was patting myself on the back for that,
I would have said, like, this is exactly how it
should have went. But I didn't go according to plan.
I will. I will admit though I had a tremendous
workout in the middle of the day, I was exhausted.
I actually had a fireman tan after on my arms
because you know, working on a tank top and the backyard.
I was fatigued. Man, it was one of those days.
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I was shooting a lot of pounds and adds a muscle,
and then I fasted all day. You have been very,
very proud of me, you know. I love the fastening thing.
I am not that I want to brag like you,
but I think I'm coming up on four hundred fast
since I started this, and I like the fact that
I can eat whatever I want when I don't fast
pretty much. But the problem is I've lost my my
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jumbo sized appetite now, which sucks. It really, I feel
like I'm I'm becoming like everything I hated. Like I
used to be able to eat gratuitous amounts of food
and I would I could never get enough. And now
I actually feel full, which sucks. I never felt full before.
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It's really bothering me, Like I look forward to the
weekend because I have my cheat day where I can
eat whatever I want, and then I don't end up
eating that much, and it's like, what the fuck? You know,
I spend all week not eating, and now on the weekends,
I don't even want to eat. I'm on like the
Buddha diet or something like that. It's crazy. I think
one of the important things that we always learned in
in different facets of the game of sports and entertainment
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and news is is active listening. And I think it's
important to acknowledge you are becoming the things that you
used to hate. I mean, now you're you got these
webcams at your house, We're inquiring about television, you want
to do more? Like absolutely, we love this. You're what
You're you're you're coming on the rifled age of forty five,
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but you are like a seasoned one, like I need
to invest in you. You're like you're like you're like
a double barrel Scotch right now. The Bend Mallory, You're
like thirty five forty You're just you're aging quite well.
I love the evolution because it's taking you a fucking while.
To you, I have said, guesscon I my life. You know,
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who knows what's happened. I could check out at any moment.
But my life is better now in my forties than
it was when I was in my twenties. I was
more of b the obese. I had no no life.
I probably went in from the age of like twenty
to thirty, I average going to two hundred seventy two
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eight possibly three hundred sporting events a year as a
radio guy, reporter, talk show host. And all that I
all I did was I do the radio show, and
I'd go to work. I go to a game, a
Dodger game and Angel game, you know whatever, Lakers, Clippers,
Kings every night. There was a game pretty much during
the year. And it sounds great because I love sports,
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but there's gotta be a little bit of balance in there.
And so but yeah, it's it's wild. How yeah life,
the zigzag of life and all that stuff. And here
it comes, you know, just you know, sweeping into the
second half of your life. You know, first it was
the Misses. First it was Aaron. Then here comes David
Gascon down the straight away and uh, we're just here
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for you, like this is this is an amazing turn.
And so when you write your book, this is the
climax in your book. Yeah, well, I will do a
whole chapter about how pretentious David Guest I put that
in there. That is gonna be there, working with the narcissist. Yeah,
how to handle a conceded human being out of you?
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And I do have some bad news. I actually took
a drive down memory Lane. Is the four oh five freeway. Now,
I remember the four oh five Freeway. I always try
to avoid. That is a point of demarcation, that is
a demilitarized zone. Uh. And and you on one side,
you've got humanity. On the other side, you've got the
one percenters. And you live on the side of the
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one percentage. Yeah, but the unfortunate thing is that we've
got tumbleweeds around our our spot and in Tito's tacos
right now, it is really Yeah, you went to Tito's.
I drove by. I had to take a piece. Not open. No,
Tito is not open, Oh my god. No. And you
get boards up too, so really like, I don't know
if it's boards so people don't break in, or if
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it's boards because they've closed up shop. Really yeah, Like
I think I saw your wife twitting out about an
Italian restaurant you guys go to that's also closing up.
So yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's terrible for the
restaurant business. I mean that Italian place in uh in
East Hollywood. I've been going there for years. Man, I
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love that place. Yeah, that's that's my spot, and uh
it sucks. And you know that's another reason people there
is this great debate, right you know, there's people freaked
out because of health and what's gonna happen. We're worried,
they've im concerned about the coronavit it and then you've
got other people like well, if we don't open up
business soon enough, there's gonna be nothing to come back to.
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So like there's that balance that they have to strike,
which sucks, but I feel terrible for these restaurant guys.
And it's not just restaurant people. I mean, you're talking
about unreal levels of business closing, unemployment. It's out of control. Man,
it's just nuts. Well, people got to eat. But that
also includes the sports world too. And I know that
the guest that you brought on there's an extra scoop
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with something special for the Yeah, I am, I'm excited.
You know this is the podcast is a little extra.
We don't get paid for it. I don't get paid
for it's pro bono work here. In addition to the
radio show. But one of my favorite people I keep
track of on social media is this guy's Sports Talk Bear.
If you've listened to the radio show, you know I've
talked about sports Talk Berry. I have done tributes homages
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to sports Talkberry. He is the king of trolling. He's
the king of of fooling and goofing on real media people,
prominent people who don't pay attention. He exposes the lazy
in sports media with some of his pranks. Over the
last couple of years, he's really become a big social
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media star. I started paying attention to him a couple
of years ago, and I have been a fan ever since,
although it's hard to keep track of him because he
has to bounce all over the place. It's like a
whack a mole game, uh, with the Twitter accounts to
keep getting shutting, shut it down. But he's the king
of sports comedy, and so let's give it up to
Sports Talk Barry, and I guess Barry. The first question
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that must be asked is how did this whole thing begin?
How did the sports talk very character start. Well, it's uh,
kind of an interesting journey I've had on Twitter over
the last seven years or so. I started off by
the name sports Talk Joe, and I was I had
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my real faith as my abby and I basically had
the same you know, liked that went by Joe. That's
what it was. And for about four years or so,
four and half five years, I was basically just a
guy like another sports tweeter, your average sports tweeter. I
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had around a couple of thousand, nine thousand and ten followers,
and that's pretty much what it was like for the
first four and a half five years. And then finally
about two years ago, I decided, hey, you know why
don't I switched up a little, but why don't I
try something different? And so I was looking, Yeah, h dirty,
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funny names, and I wanted one that wasn't completely obvious
like bend Over, Mike Hunter or anything like that where
it would kind of give it away right away. So
I was looking through all these dirty names and I
found one that was Barry McCain and I was like,
oh wait. Even though I had to take a step
back for a second and read it over again, I
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was like, oh, yeah, that's great. And there's been plenty
of examples over the past few years where some people
will follow me for like months at a time, and
they'll be in my mentions like I just realized what
your name is. And so that's why that's always that's
always a it's an honor when I hear that. But
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so that was how I got the name, just I
just found I touched, thought it was funny. That's how
I got the name Barry mc and uh, that's why
I started to go by sports dock Berry. And anybody
who knows about Sports dock Berry knows that you know
the Abbey, and the Abbey is uh an actor who
portrayed the doctor in this really really seedy looking commercial
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that airs for this place called the Addiction Network, and
there was this again like this this commercial had I've
seen this commercial thousands of times over the previous three
or four years, and I for the longest time I
thought it was just like some crappy vocal commercial because
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the production quality on it was just so bad. And
so I decided the screenshot a pick of the the
actor of the doctor in the commercial, and I treated
a posted on Twitter and a bunch of my fathers like, oh, yeah,
I know that guy. I see that guy's commercials, and
I thought, well, this is kind of interesting. So it
just it kind of It wasn't really planned, but I decided,
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why don't I just make this guy my new abbey?
And so when you parted that with the name, it
just kind of work and one thing led to another
and I lose. Basically, my profile just just exploded into
I had you know, seventy thou followers than of nowhere.
Really be sure to catch live editions of The Ben
Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven p m.
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Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Yeah,
and you have become a Twitter legend. But there are
good things and bad things about that. I know I
from doing the radio show. Uh it's a cesspool and
just get bombarded with with trolls. So but you've always
got to be on the move right. You've gotta be
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a step ahead of the Twitter Rozzie that are out
to get you. Not only you've got two things right,
because you've got the knuckleheads that are are gonna not
like what you're doing, and then you've got the Twitter
police who keep shutting you down. So you have to
you have to hide in the shadows a little bit.
I'll tell you what it's been. That's obviously been by
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far the most frustrating parts that Twitter is because at
the core of what I do, I was trolling all
this stuff I tweet. I do it because I'd like
making people laugh and I like enjoying. I like making
people day better, aim in the smallest sort of way.
And when somebody tells me, hey, you know your tweets
make me laugh, Your tweaty day better, that's really what
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I do it for. And obviously you know making money
is in pat either, but uh, the the feeling of
of you you build up all these followers and you
make a lot of content that people enjoy, and you
build up, you know, hundreds of thousands of followers. I've
had maybe I got to like over twenty accounts now
because they keep getting suspended, and it's been in that
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same way and everthing, even since you followed me. I'm
can suspended a few times. So yeah, well, in fact,
i've actually, yeah, I've had I write your number down.
We were trying to schedule this interview, and then I
went back and I was like trying to go through
because I didn't write it down right away, and then
the account that you we were talking on was gone,
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So then I was like trying to I was trying
to scramble to find the number to get a hold
of you. And this I think you've had five or
six It seems like you've had five or six maybe
not just since we started communicating, you've bounced all over
the place because like, do they have they given you
any guidelines that they say that you're banned because you're
doing these pranks? Or is it are people reporting you?
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What do you think the reason is that you keep
getting thrown into the Twitter jail? Well, Twitter has this
ridiculous evading suspension policy. And my my original account, which
I had for three or three and after years, like
I got the account in like many I remember exactly
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when I got it because I'm a big NBA fan,
and that was during Conference finals between the Pacers and
the Heat. I remember it like yesterday, so it was
like mayen and it got it didn't get suspended until
like right after the election, and so really said sometimes
you've seen elections. So that's what about almost three and
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a half three and a half years now, Over the
last three and a half years, I've had about, I
guess over at least over twenty accounts because Twitter has
this thing where if you suspended originally and you come
back and make a new account, it doesn't necessarily matter
if you make any content on that new account that
violates the guideline. It's the fact that you even made
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a new account in the first place. So the fact
basically all my accounts now are like taking time bombs
because and it's not people think, WoT you like, stop
getting suspended, stops tweeting stuff that it gets you suspended,
And I keep calling them like, guy, I don't tweet
stuff that gets me suspended. It's just I don't like it.
Just that's just how Twitter's were like they find out
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who they somehow find out that it's me again, and
then they know, they go right to work and banning me.
And as I was saying before, its incredibly frustrating when
you build up these huge accounts, followings and then it
just gets new by Twitter and you didn't even It's
not even because you did anything offensive. It's not because
you said anything offensive or you did something tomorrow. It's
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just it's just that you're doing You're evading the stupid
evading suspension. I mean, it makes no sense. And so
but that's why, you know, recently I've started to really uh,
I've started to really push my YouTube channel out more.
I've started to uh, I started to really promote my
back up accounts more because I on Twitter, because I
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know that, uh, you know, I'm sick of starting over
from scratch, so I'm thinking, well, I might as well
get ahead of Twitter before, so I don't have to
start over from zero followers every single time. Now I
can start a new account with Be sure to catch
live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two
am Eastern eleven p m. Pacific. Well, you've got to
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be proud though, because I've I've heard you know, I
worked in the radio business a long time, and I've
heard some guys recently in the last couple of years
since you really hit the sports talk berry thing a
big and you have hornswaggled many of the people I know,
and they and I love it because now they have
to they actually have to pay attention more and they
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have to say blue checkmark. I've heard guys on the
air say blue checkmark because the greatest thing to me,
the thing I find the most enjoyable about your stuff.
And and you know, having worked with a lot of
people who are unfortunately very lazy in sports media, and
you know, it's the easiest thing in the world just
look for a blue checkmark. But it's shocking how many
people don't even see it, and then they get completely
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bamboozled by something that you put out there. It's it's fascinating.
It's a fascinating thing for me. I laugh. I think
it's great. Yeah, that's why that's a lot of people
ask the people who don't don't like me doing that's
and I always say, well, no, because it's it's funny.
It first, what's funny, Like, I find it funny that,
like you said, uh, you know a lot of people
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whose one job is to get the accurate news out
there can't take to two seconds, not even that, to
check if the sources legit. So it's like if you can't,
you don't get mad at me when I make a
tweet and you weren't careful enough to check it. And
it's not like it's not like I'm doing anything malicious
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or anything like that. It's just, you know, it doesn't
it doesn't hurt anybody. It's not like I'm, um, you know,
doing anything illegal. It's just, you know, just check your
sources better, man, you know, well exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And
the other the other thing too, is and I'll give
you credit for this, is that you're you're on You
had a pretty good pulse of you. You have a
pretty good idea of what's gonna go big and uh,
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like the Kaepernick stuff a couple of weeks ago, that's
always low hanging fruit. Um, so you're you're right in
the in the wheelhouse where people are looking for stories
and then he sees something and then they're like, oh,
you know, they get so excited, especially now because of
what's going on with the coronavirus, where people are looking
for sports stuff, and then you're you know, how much
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time him do you spend going through this stuff to
try to figure out what you're gonna tweet out? Um? Well,
a lot of it is just spur of the moment things.
And there rather thing about the the Kaepernick tweet. I
think that last week or whatever it was in my
prior account, I was basically on a on a heater
for a few days there where it was like every
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everything I did just fooled a bunch of people. The
Kaepernick one was obviously the most popular one, but I
hadn't one about Cam Newton going to the Patriots. There
was one about Bronck going to the box, which was
before it's time. There was another one about a tager
Boloag having an arrest morant because he was violating social
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distancing guidelines, which Tom Brady just did the other day.
And so it is kind of weird how and a
lot of the stuff that I do tweet actually ends
up later on happening. Um. But in terms of like
how do I know what tweet? I don't know just
I always say, you have to make it. I always
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go for you have to make it just plausible enough,
but you kind of have, but it's not really it's
not really funny if it's just I don't really like
doing just plain old fake interactions. I like to throw
in some type of humorous element into it if I can,
because that just makes you even funny. Like another one
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I did was, you know, Rudy Gobert spread the COVID
my team virus by kissing teammates something the whips and
I'm trying, I'm pretending to be road Adrian Lossky and
that that I had people that my mentions all the time, like,
oh my god, I can't believe Rudy Gobert was kissing teammates,
And like it's just one of the things where I'd
like to add a humorous element if I can, but
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I make it just realistic enough. And that's what I
always aimed for, um, And you know, that's that's why
I always trying to go for. I don't really have
a set a set plan or I don't really think
about lot if there's ahead of time, but you know,
night like tonight where he got the NFL Draft This
is like the holiday for trolls like me. Fox Sports
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s R to listen live. Yeah, this is this is
another chance. What is what do you consider your masterpiece?
I love the Kaepernick thing, which is a couple of
weeks ago when you had I think it was Donna
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Brazil from you know, a big political democratic person. She
she retweeted what you would say, who's the one that
shocked you the most? That you know, whether it doesn't
have to be a media person, but somebody in the
politics or whatever that that fell for a sports talk
Verry prank. Well, but the uh that Donna Brazil one
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was was surprised because she's probably the biggest that I
poled us far on any one of my tweets, and
before it before I get in tonight, my most famous
for that. I had to say. The interesting thing about
the Kaepernick troll, you know, the thing with the entire
graphic with the Jets men is that I literally did
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that same exact troll like nine or ten months ago
with the sham exact graphic and back then it fulled
a bunch of people too, So it was it was
it wasn't like a new troll, it was a recycled troll,
and it still blew up there a second time. Well,
you know, I have I have a theory. Actually, I
have a theory here when it comes to Kaepernick. There's
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so many people that have this derangement syndrome that believe
he's got to be back in the NFL that any
time they see any story related to Kaepernick, they get excited,
like this is their hero. And so you're you're tugging
people's heart strings here, because I hear that all the time.
You're doing the radio show. Every once in a while,
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bring up Kaepernick's name, and a certain percentage of people
just freak out there. Anytime they just hear his name,
they're like, oh, we gotta get him back in the
NFL's wild. It's really yeah. I mean that it's the
same thing. It's the same thing with with Trump as well.
And that's why I try to every now and then
I'll try to incorporate, like, uh, an athlete kind of
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supporting Trump because I know it's I know how volatile
just that name is to a lot of people, and
and when it comes to politics, I don't I don't
necessarily prescribe to any particular party because I really followed politics.
I don't know about I think a lot of it's
just bullshit. Uh But but I know obviously, you know,
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Trump is a very polarizing figure, and I know that
cap makes it very polarizing figures. So so I know
usually when I do that, when I make a troll
featuring those guys, that it's going to do well. But
to go back to your original question about what's my
my most famous one that I've ever done, my whole
famous stroll, I think any of my long time followers
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and people who have followed me for a long time,
I would agree that at the troll that I got
skipped bayliss On, which was last June, right after its
final it was a troll where and this was around
the same time when the entire Chris Paul James Harden
drama was coming about with the rocket and oh, you know,
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Chris Paul wants out and all that stuff. So I
took advantage of that where I made this fake story
about how Chris Paul I made by the stake dread
where I was impersonating Roganowski again and I basically had
this dread where I said, you know, Chris Paul was
making fun of James Harden's man boobs and he had
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hardened running out of Jim crying several times. And I
made this dread and it got a few bites and
it was funny, and but I didn't get anybody like
really really major about it. It just I just all right,
well that's it. And so I changed back to my
normal profile and I went to I went to bed,
and then the next morning I aked up and my
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phone's on fire and my notifications are on fire, and
everybody it's like, dude, you fool Skip Bayless, and I
was like, what are you talking about? And they go
look at mys on whatever show he's on now on
this dute like he literally felt for your troll on
national television, and I said, I this can't be right.
I don't want to look at it. And there's it,
there is on national television talking about how Chris Paul's
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make fund of James Harden's man proves and if if
you really want to look, if you want to look
at the cliff right now literally on my Twitter account.
That's the most recent thing I treated, which is by chance,
and it's almost it's ten months ago now, but I still, like,
I still can't believe it actually happened. I still don't
know how that happened, Like how that got by the
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censors there, and how the the the checking the guys
who's supposed to check the validity. I don't know how
it happened, but I'm glad it happened. And I think,
you know, I necessarily know a lot of my uh
all my followers, my long term followers who have been
here for who have followed me for all the you know,
the account us and all those suspensions that'll that'll go
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down and into me for sure. Yeah, So are you
gonna stick to sports Bear? Are you gonna move to
you had some success with politicians? WO mentioned Donna Brazil?
Any chance you branch out become news talk Berry instead
of sports talk Berry? Well? I tried well. When I
was on my heater on what was a couple of
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accounts to go now a few weeks ago, I basically
had this U I made this tweet that uh pretended
to be CNN where I was basically I forget the
exact quote, but I basically said, ah, you know, if
you do, if you so, I had something with marijuana
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where it's something like study finds that, uh, marijuana is
like a thousand times more dangerous than than the COVID
nineteen dars And you know, I got I got a
few people to fight on a bunch of stoners and
things like that, and I said, you know, if you
do marijuana, they'll make you gay all that stuff. So
I mean, I'll try, I'll try some of it sometimes.
But the thing is, like the political people are there,
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there are a lot more serious about it, and it's
a lot more I don't know. I think I every
now and then I'll drift off into political Twitter, but
I usually try to stay within the realm of sports
Twitter because there's a lot of people on political Twitter
that I don't really feel like getting drawled with. But
you know, if if I get, if I get, if
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I get a politician or somebody like Don and Brazil
to fall for it, then I certainly would relome that.
And in all honesty, my white whale so to speak
of you know who, people have asked me like, who's
your who's the one person you want to troll that
you haven't trolled yet, and that's Trump. I want. I
want to troll Trump on something because he has the
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type of personality where I know that if I can
just get something and I can get him at the
right time with the day or night where he goes
on one of those Twitter you know it was retweeting
rampages that he goes on it right now, and that
I feel like I can get them. So that's my
that's my white will, that's the one I'm chasing. Yeah,
but you know, but hey, we'll have to wait and
see if that ever happens. I hope, Well that's pretty
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good and I would advise, you know, as much as
I think it would be hilarious to see the politicians
and the political media um fall for for your stick,
you could actually end up in like real trouble though,
because like they they could prosecute. I mean, you don't
want to mess with the federal government. It's one thing
to mess with Twitter, That's what I like. You know,
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from the sports Twitter, it's like it's one thing to
make you know, fake trades and things like that. But
you know, you're talking about actual, real life stuff that
maybe four people it's like, yeah, you're really really walking
a thin line there, Yeah, exactly the extra caful with that?
What is other than Twitter? Have you you've been contacted
by him? If you've got any real trouble with any
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of these people that you've been impersonating or is it
just pretty benign, harmless stuff? Uh, honestly, haven't ever? You Surprisingly, no,
I never really have. Basically my only punishment really has
been getting suspended. Um. I think that's maybe a big
reason why I don't really hear from these people, is
because you know, when I do get when I do
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an impersonation or whatever, I usually get suspended shortly thereafter,
And so I don't know if they really have a chance.
I will say that that you know, I impersonate in
rapport and I impersonate schefter. Uh and and rappid Fort
especially has been a good sport about it, and he's
interacted with me and responded and replied on a lot
(36:35):
of my accounts that I'll do. And like I said,
a lot of the stuff I do is pretty benign
and it's it's not malicious, Like I'm not going around,
uh you know, making up rumors about like oh well
some of this actual person is actually like a sexual predate,
Like I'm not doing a sexual predator or pedophile, Like,
I'm not doing anything serious. It's just goofy ship. I
think a lot of people realize that. Um So. But yeah,
(36:58):
that's thus far. I haven't ever been contacted or um
gotten really in any trouble besides getting suspended. That's good,
that's good. You know. I had one of my callers
years ago, did a bit on the radio with Stern,
and the FBI came to his door from a radio bit.
(37:19):
Something he said on the d as like, so, but
as long as I think, as long as you stick
to sports, I think you're right now. You mentioned making money,
and that's obviously what this comes down to. You spend
a lot of time sending this stuff out on social media.
I know you've got a YouTube channel. Is that how
you're making money? Is it the YouTube? Like? How do
you how are you gonna capitalize and market the sports
talk very empire. I know you're already underway on that,
(37:40):
but what's what's the end game on this? Well? Um,
like I said, for for the last year and a half,
so though, I've made about around five thousand dollars from
selling merchandise. A lot of that from selling merchant dice
(38:01):
uh and um, that didn't really happen until I got
a big enough following the way I was able to
advertise it, and so I really didn't start that until
a year and a half ago. And that I hadn't
started to monetize uh, my my YouTube account until just
(38:21):
a few months ago. And that's really at least so far.
That's my biggest regret is that I didn't push my
YouTube account sooner because I feel personally that my YouTube
account is going to be my biggest platform in the
future because Twitter can't get me there. Twitter can't to
(38:41):
spend me there, and I always feel like, if I
can just get a decent amount of my followers on
Twitter to my great over its my YouTube. And I'm
already in the last few leagues I've gained, you know,
several thousand subscribers. I wish I had started doing that sooner,
but I really do feel like, uh, in the future,
(39:03):
my YouTube channel is going to be one of the
biggest channels in the world. And that sounds sounds kind
of crazy, but you know, when I first started Twitter,
I never thought that I was going to be you know,
at one point I wanted my accounts. I got up
to a quarter of a million followers, So you know,
it sounds it sounds far fetched. It might sounds farfetched now,
(39:23):
but you know, I believe in my content and I
have a very very dedicated following who you know, they
followed me everywhere I go, despite the fact that I'm
getting suspended pretty regularly. And I think that shows a
lot of staying power on my part. And I think
a lot of people do enjoy my content. And I
think that if I'm able to just continue to grow
my YouTube account, I think that if I ever get
(39:45):
a bigger platform to to show my talent, I think
that a lot of people will see. You know that
this this very guy is is pretty good at what
he does. Yeah, what is there any way? I I
don't know how this goes. I have a very few
dealings with Twitter. I got verified a number of years ago.
But uh, like, can you I wonder if you can
(40:07):
get a hold of somebody a Twitter and end the
game of whack a mole? Like have you have you
thought about that? I mean, I don't know if they
would even be open to that, the people that run Twitter,
but it's it seems like certainly, well, I'd certainly be
into it. I don't know. I don't think there's any
person you can just smell phone and complain. I mean,
but you know, look, you got you got me, And
what I do is do I like fool people, do
(40:29):
a fool blue check marks. Yeah, but you know when
you look at fucking Bill Cosby and fucking O. J.
Simpson are running around Twitter freely, and it's like, oh,
big old you know, big old Barry mcconck is too
dangerous to be kept around. When you got a guy,
you know, Roderick cut his x Y s head off,
and you've got Bill Cosby who's raped talents women still
(40:52):
able to keep their accounts, you know that doesn't That's
when I get pissed. And when that's when I get pisted.
M I started thinking about my accounts getting suspended. I'm like,
I'll try to do to say people laugh, and I
get punished more repeatedly on here than these guys who
are really actually bad people. And Cosby is actually in
jail right now and he's still got his Twitter accounts
sending stuff out. He has a verified Twitter account, believe
(41:13):
it Harbinstein does, so he's never used if he still
has one, it's like they're really they went out of
their way to verify Howdy fucking Weinstein, but real old
Barion cock there is too dangerous to be kept around.
But yeah, I would certainly if I could. I would
definitely love to get someone here at Twitter and say, hey,
can you restore my Sports Talk Barry account, which is
(41:36):
my most famous accounts I've ever had. That was the
one where I got up to around two followers. Uh.
I would. I would love they were able to some
average store that account, But I mean that's the pipe
dream unfortunately, So I guess I'll just have to I'll
just have to keep, you know, persevering for all this
oppression that I have. It's it's just incredibly to the
Twitter oppression clearly. Yes, all right, So any any any
(42:00):
funt I know you YouTube is great and you can
make money on YouTube and selling stuff like that, but
what about going mainstream and I could see like a
sports Talk Berry TV show where you your your prank
and kind of punk athletes and do practical jokes and
all that. Any thought about doing something like that? Well,
like like I said, you know, I've I've always been
(42:22):
confident in my ability to produce good content, and I've
always felt like I just need I just need someone
from a big company or or or who had a
big platform to show faith in me. Um and I
have no doubt that if that happens that I would
(42:43):
I would make somebody's hearing audience very happy because of
my dedicated following, my dedicated fan base. Uh and so yeah,
I was certainly in the future. I mean obviously that
this Corona virus. I don't think anybody in the near
future is going to be doing any any shows like that,
but sometimes certainly, yeah, I mean it's one of my
one of my dreams is too. I think I think
(43:05):
my my biggest goal for the future is I want
to continue to grow my YouTube channel because that's where
I get a lot of my best content out. And
also it's it's the festival world and that I'm able
to show my creative side and I'm able to make
money off of it. But yeah, I would certainly, I
would certainly love to have a show kind of like
a punt or something where I'm able to kind of
(43:29):
show off my skills that as an instigator, I guess
if you want to call it that, but you know,
unfortunately they don't really have they don't have. This is
why I always going through college, I was always like,
what do you want a major in? They're always like,
what do you want a major in? Like, well, I
don't I don't really know. I don't really I'm not
really interested in anything besides sports, Like well, well, why
don't you do something with like sports management, and like, well,
(43:51):
I'm not necessarily sports management. I just like making front
of people. I like sports humor. But unfortunately, they don't
have any majors like that in college, your grad school.
So probably had to form my own niche and hopefully
I just keep, you know, going out and long after
where somebody's finally able to recognize me for for who
I am, because I know that I know that, especially
(44:12):
what compared to you, to a lot of the people
who do have platforms. Now, I know that I'm better
than that, So of course not no, I yes, but
I find your music. I get a kick. I've done
monologues on the radio when you when you the Kaepernick
thing and some of the other ones you fooled a
lot of people. I think it's hilarious and like I
told you earlier, this is the goldilocks zone for a
(44:35):
guy like you. I mean, the next how long this
coronavirus thing last? Hopefully it doesn't last that much longer.
But there the it's kind of like going to the
store and trying to find toilet paper, disinfecting wipes. There's
not a lot of inventory, well in sports right now,
as you know, there's no games, so there's not there's
not too much inventory. So people are are hungry. They're thirsty,
(44:57):
and and you can take advantage. And you have taken
advantage that you've done. Some of your greatest work has
happened recently, So continued success here. Yeah, gugy DOUGYEP, working
hard every day and stay humble and you know all
the other cliches are athletes. Said, that's right, take it
one tweet at a time. I think you have to
do so, Barry, I like, we're gonna put the baby
(45:20):
to bed here. But again, you want to promote your
Twitter account for those that are listening that have never
heard of you and they're not familiar with you, Like,
how can people follow you? What do you advise them
to do? Well? My Twitter account currently as of whatever
to say is, let's let's stay state I lost track
of the days at the time of the sear you're
recording my account. Pick us again. You could go down
(45:42):
nearly any second. My account currently is Handy handle is
Ultra touch Scene and my backup account has the handle
of life Talk berry. Um. I like to also if
I could promote my my YouTube account which is just
goes by the name Barry mcconchner, and uh, my YouTube
(46:06):
account I think is really really and obviously I'm biased
because I'm you know, I'm trying to sell my own
account here, but uh, you know it has there. I
have highlight wheels of guys like Dan Marino and John
l A and Peyton Manning where it's literally just half
an hour half hour worked, the videos that just them
throwing dimes all over the field that you don't see
anywhere else. I got people if you if you hate
(46:29):
jar Jar Binks, I have an in depth breakdown on
episode one where I where I take a big dump
on Jarge are Pinks. I have you know, if you
don't like Tom Brady, which I know a lot of
people don't, I have you know, videos exposing him by
videos take in front of Michael Jordan's competition, which has
been a pretty big topic in sports world lately with
his new documentary going out. So I have a lot
(46:53):
of I have a lot of content on my YouTube
channel that really you wouldn't see anywhere else. And so
I think that if you want if you want good
entertainment and you want good content, you should subscribe to
my YouTube channel right now, Barry mccaking. Her um in
fact is if my subscriber account keeps growing up, I
might have to change that name because I don't know
(47:14):
if it's if it's necessarily TC. But for now it works.
So yeah, very talking on the YouTube channel is where
you want to go. All right, listen, Barry continued success man,
We'll have you on again down the line. And uh
big fans, So thank you, have a have a good weekend.
Thank you YouTube. Then thanks for having me.
Host
Ben Maller
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