May 23, 2020 • 43 mins
Weeks spent indoors doesn't mean Ben and sturdy wingman didn't get out to stretch their legs. Sports appears to be on the brink to full blown return so the fellas explore that with a doctor working in a hazard zone. Before the guys into some serious chatter, Ben is called to answer his door...literally.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
If you thought four hours a day, minutes a week
was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants of
the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He treats
crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the rich
pill poppers in the penthouse. The Clearinghouse of Hot takes
break free for something special. The fifth Hour with Ben
(00:24):
Mallar starts right now. That it does is we are
in the air everywhere, the vast power of the I
Heart podcast network available as you know by now, because
you've you've found the podcast, you've stumbled onto the podcast
that is available wherever you get your podcast. Because four
hours on the overnight or not and off eight days
(00:46):
a week, we do this podcast. This podcast drops on
depending on what day is wet Friday, we got a podcast. Uh,
today is a Saturday. So yesterday we had hacks all
critically acclaimed interview with Lee Haxall Hamilt's one radio legend
from San Diego from bad the Canadian rockies Love Tax
(01:07):
thought was great. We appreciate him coming on. But we
got one on Sunday as well. So it's eight days
a week. We get two on Friday with the radio
show and joined again, for better or worse by the
man affectionately known in the highways and hallway Highways the
hallways of Fox Sports Radio as gag On David gascon Man.
(01:33):
It's uh long time coming. One day has passed, but
I did my God's I did God's work for at
least one day, Ben Maller, and uh, I will wait
for you to eloquently and politely acknowledge what you're gonna
be doing over the weekend here the next couple of moments.
(01:55):
Oh so you're you You would like that right now
as I as you gonna get to that letter. But
I can do that now if you want. No. No,
But you know what, I was just thinking about this
um earlier in the week because I was driving the studio.
I noticed two things. Uh One, there was a ton
of traffic, and as I got to the studio, too,
there was no sign of of Ben Maller. I'm kind
of curious, like everybody else coming back to work won't
(02:16):
even get your ass in the studio. Uh well, I
am really following the guidelines of management, and they've not
asked me to come back. I did go down there
to pick up some mail. If I had to have
to go back because Doc Mike sent me a book
about piss so I guess I've got to pick that up,
which he thinks is he thinks once I read this,
I'll be brainwashed and I'll be hornswaggled into like guzzling
(02:41):
my urine after this, which I am very confident will
not happen. Uh. And there's some other things I need
to pick up. So I will go in there. And
I have considered, you know, randomly, you know, going in
and doing a doing a show. But I have a
set up here. And the thing that I've noticed now
because they have the company has me doing these YouTube
videos in the home studio, it's set up per quickly
to record these things, and it's not set up the
(03:04):
same way in the main studio, which you think would
be the opposite, but it's not. And I've I'm a
pretty good set up here that I've got my routine down.
So I know at some point I'm gonna have to
figure out how to do do the the setup in
in the hub, but that's part of it. But now
I haven't haven't gone in there, and maybe i'll maybe
I'll go in at some point and surprise you. I'll
(03:24):
pop in and say, hey, look here I am. Do
you miss me? Do you miss coming into the studio?
You know I do. But I'm at the problem. I'm
getting used to this now. It's been two months of
doing the show from the home studio, so I'm kind
of used to that now. But I like the energy.
I've always got into radio. One of the reasons I
got a radio is because I loved walking into the
radio station. Remember the first time I walked into the
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Mighty six ninety in San Diego and I was like,
this is awesome. The vibe, the energy. Of course, there's
none of that right now at radio stations because because
of what's going on. But I'd really like to get
back in that. You feel like, you know, special when
you walk in there. You feel like this is a
big job. You know when you walk into a race station.
When you walk into your home studio, you don't feel
that big, you don't feel that important. And in a plus,
(04:07):
it's cool. I mean we we worked Steve Harvey, a
legend entertainment. His studio is right across the hall from us.
There's so many great stars that work at Premiere in
radio in our profession that it's you feel like this
is big. You know, this is cool where we with
all these legends and then now we're all we're all
a part more than ever. Yeah, there's something really empowering
(04:27):
about getting off the four oh five freeway. I know.
I know now that Claire. Now our studios if you
ever come to l A when things open up and
we invite studios people into the studio and stuff, the
studios are right where the four oh five and the
one on one merge. And I'm happy to report that
I take the one oh one. I do not get
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on the four oh five. The only reason I were
to get on the four oh five is if the
offer amp right there at the Ventura is shut down
for some reason or sup Paul, and I'll I'll then
have to jump on the four or five. But that's it.
I don't don't go on the four or five. That's
a point of demarcation. I do not cross the four
oh five. Don't do it. Don't cross it. Yeah, you
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don't even cross it when you go get Tito's Tacos.
That's true. I saw that Tito's is opening up on
June one, but only only four delivery and only local deliveries.
So that means we were trying to figure out. I
was talking to the wife about this. I was like,
how are we gonna get my my tetoes fixed? Because
I don't have an address right near ttos. So I
(05:34):
was thinking, either maybe I'll deliver the car, you know,
I could sit in there, you know, parking lot somewhere.
Or my father in law has a business in downtown
Los Angeles. He's he runs a like a a storage
warehouse thing in in l A. So I could go
maybe at his place and then have him deliver there,
which I think is close enough that it might work.
(05:56):
So I have spent some time thinking about I wonder
if they take telephone call is because Chick fil A,
which is down the street from US and and Sino
was doing that. They have the Chick fil A app,
So they'll only serve you if you're either driving through
the drive through or you order through your app, and
then you can pick it up either the parking lot
or you can pick it up at the at the door,
(06:18):
like they'll have a door where you have a couple
of vendors that come in and out servers. Yeah, yeah,
I I went last week, uh, and to to make
sure my dad was still alive. I don't I don't
want to get in trouble guests come. But I did
visit my father. I'm a bad person. I did. I
visited my old man and so I picked up some
we picked up some food to to bring to him,
you know, some meal and obviously, and we went to
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a restaurant that we like. And you can't just walk
up in order at that place, you had they had slass.
You had to park your car and you had order
on the phone. So even though I was right there
talking to the person, you know, we were talking about it,
they had now you gotta go, you gotta do it
on the app or whatever, and that that whole thing.
They didn't have a drive through. Now, So what's uh,
(07:01):
what's on the menu today? All right? So this is
a mildly marginally entertaining show. We're in the in the
middle part of this show, we're gonna get to another doctor.
We're gonna call him Dr G. And this is a
fan of the show. This is a fan of the
podcast on the radio show who reached out to me
(07:22):
to come on this podcast. He had some things he
wanted to say. He was upset with the the narrative
about the coronavirus in the way that it's being described
in many of the mainstream media outfits. And he felt
like he's on the front lines. They're working at a
hospital on the East Coast, and he wanted his story told.
And I was a little skeptical at first because I
(07:44):
was I don't really know, but he We had him confirmed.
We did our due diligence to make sure he was legit,
because I, you know, anybody can email me from any
you know where, and but this guy is a legit guy.
He sent us I mean everything possibly you could imagine
to verify who he was is and uh and he
did that and so so that's that's how this all
(08:04):
kind of began. And we'll have him on talking about
his story and whatnot. But before we get to that,
we've got the flint Stones meets the Jetsons. Instead of
set it and forget it, just forget it, we've got that,
but we begin with what's in the box? What's in
the box? So you know, I I'm pretty much hermit.
(08:29):
I go I leave my house for like an hour
a day here, Uh, I go for a walk. Sometimes
it's an hour and a half. I went on a
two hour walk the other day. I got I couldn't.
I'm in a sleeping very well it was, which sucks.
And so as I get up, is I gotta get
some sun, get out, get a little daylight, you know,
see the world, walk around. I can't go to the
gym anymore. That's over. So I went out walking around.
(08:49):
But uh so then, you know, I don't usually check
the mail, even you know who's gonna send email. So
they get this message, Hey, go check your portion from
from from gag on. So I go out there and
there's this big box you know what, I'm thinking, Oh boy,
And it's got some kind of like like a health
label on it. You know, I see like like a
buzzword there, like you know, I think I saw organic
(09:11):
on that or something like that. So I'm like, what
the what the perishable perishable perishable is not organic? But
I saw there's a big word on the box, big
block box. I liked, did guests gott have Doc Mike
send me goat head or something like that? And so
then I this massive box. I take it through the
front door of the Mallard mansion. I put it there
on the kitchen counter. I then have to run back.
I grabbed some scissors to kind of cut open the boxes.
(09:33):
It does say perishable on it. I opened the box
and it says here there's a message right on top.
It says to Ben Maller from West of the four
oh five. Never in my whole life have I ever
been more afraid to see the end results of this endeavor.
God help us all. And there is a what looks
like a beautiful piece of meat here. It's American wagu
(09:58):
Tomahawks steak ball in. And I assume you want me
to do like a cooking video guest on, Is that
what you would like me to do here? Just you know,
I was thinking of that, asking maybe Fats to come
on to guide you through this, but he's currently probably
lighting himself on fire again. But to give you the
skinny on this thing, it's it's forty ounces two and
(10:21):
a half pounds or two pounds. Excuse me, um, and yeah,
I a buddy of two friends of mine, Um Colin,
who you you've got a chance to meet a couple
of weeks ago, Uh Colin, And my other buddy Patrick,
who who's on the front lines as well, working in
um l a city fire department. Um, we actually went
(10:41):
to the Langham Hotel like a year or two ago
just to go out and have some dinner. And they
have a restaurant in the steakhouse called the Royce and
I've never had a tom hank before, and so a
friend of ours actually worked there and she's like, you
gotta get it. So they brought out this giant dish
and that's all we d me. Colin and Patrick. We
(11:01):
ordered the Tomahawk, which was a little pricey, but I
kid you not, with forty ounces, I could ate that
whole damn thing myself. It was so good. But we
absolutely demolished that thing. And I figured this would be
a perfect present for the guy that celebrated his birthday
that absolutely threw me against the cross and stoned me
(11:22):
to death and said I didn't reach out to for birthday.
So given that, given that the shortage and meat, Ben,
this was actually ordered before your birthday. Was my thirty birthday,
just turned thirty. But to be completely transparented, you know,
(11:43):
it took a while to get to you, just obviously
with the shortage, and uh, well, thank you, it's very
kind of you, and I see the uh it's got
a little pamplet that this thing came with on how
to properly cook the steak. But I noticed there it
says your preference. It's got listed here rare medium, rare
medium medium. Well, I do not see well, do not
(12:05):
see well listed here? And it's got it's it's it's
somewhat annoying here that they don't have that. They're like
our people are being shunned. You know. The President Donald
Trump loves his food well done, much like myself. So
but I do not see that. But I guess I'll
have to do it medium. Well. Then, yes, I guess
I'll have to get a little pink in the middle
there and take the medium. Well, I think you're gonna
have phone with it. I appreciate the very kind of
(12:26):
you to do that. And this is perfect for when
you because typically say, when you break your fast, you
go all out that day or that night. YEA, yeah,
I go big, I go big. I got I this
week I had let me go to the phone here,
Hold on a second, let check this out. I want
to do some fast. I'll be like you bragging about
my fast fast. No, that was only when my gallbladder
(12:47):
got taken out. That I had my record fast, the
longest fast ever ninety point one hours because I had
I had not eaten for forty eight hours, and then
I went to the hospital and they wouldn't let me
eat for another another couple of days. Uh, let's see
the other day this week, I went sixty four hours
at a sixty four hour fast, and I also had
(13:09):
a about a fifty hour fast, so I had. Yeah,
so I pretty much ate. I think I I ate
on Saturday, I eat a bunch of food on Saturday,
didn't eat on Sunday, didn't need on Monday, eight on Tuesday,
and then didn't need on Wednesday, and then eight late
on Thursday, and then you know, picked up you know
(13:32):
for the weekends Friday, Saturday and Sunday, I just eat
like you know, a couple of times or whatever. So well,
you know this from back in the day when you
were you were running around the world, will travel with
the Dodgers that they have this thing that everyone calls
is the slut buster. Um, this will definitely be your
fasting buster. Like I recommend that when you finished a
long fast on a Friday or Saturday, this is on
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the menu. It's front and center and and you know,
I will, I will put that to use there. But
this more of a weekend item. You know, I got
it because because I can't doing the week I got
a lot of crap going on, and we all do it,
but on the weekend, I can just focus on the meat.
Focus on the meat. Now. That leads me to one
thing I gotta push back on you on regarding your
(14:15):
your regular show Monday through Friday. I thought you had
a golden opportunity to capitalize on something from from Sunday night,
and I was a little shot that you didn't um
the flu game or the pizza game, the food poisoning game.
I thought that was gonna be a perfect opportunity for
you to jump along the same linear lines as Michael
(14:36):
Jordan's because not only did he play in game six
in a closeout game for the Chicago Bulls, but you
actually hosted a show after burning your mouth eating pizza.
No no, no, I see that's your see you miss
getting here. I guess that is not the most impressive
feat of broadcasting with some kind of ailment. Yeah, you
(15:00):
shoot your pants and then hosted a show. I get
no, no no, no no. Before that, I had gold stones
the most painful thing. You think you're having a heart attack,
and I can the show continued. I kept doing the
show with gold Stones series. I had goll Stones going on. Yeah,
that was that was brutal. But anyway, we ever get
(15:20):
to it because we got a lot to be a
lot very long podcast. So the flint Stones meet the Jetsons.
That is an outdated reference, but you know it sometimes
in television. Typically in television they have crossovers. You know,
it's like where characters of different shows get together. It's
kind of obvious, Like, you know, I grew up watching
the flint Stones and the Jetsons all these old cartoons,
and they had an episode where there's like some kind
(15:41):
of time machine and Fred flint Stone and the Jetsons
got together and all that. So I bring this up
because I got a phone call from management the other
day and then you know, ring ring, I'm like, anytime
I see management, I'm like, gosh, ship, what did I do?
You know? What did I say? I'm like going through
my head. Did I say something? Did something get on
the other shouldn't have gotten the air? Did they finally
hear O, Mike, you know what's going on? And so Anyway,
(16:02):
management calls me up and they're like, hey, we've got
a proposal, and I was like, okay, I'm listening. Uh.
They said, we want to do a crossover show. I
said okay, uh, and so I I agree to it.
I'm actually excited about this. And so this coming Thursday,
I in Thursday and the Friday, the Friday show on
the Overnight. I will not be in the Overnight the
(16:23):
normal seat here, which I'm reluctant to leave that position,
but I will not be on that show Friday of
this week. So no lame jokes, don't send any jokes
for this upcoming week because it won't be on the air.
But I will be sitting in the number two chair
next to Rob Parker on the Odd Couple. I'll be
filling in for Chris Brussard who's got some time off here,
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and I will be a shamuzing with my friend Rob Parker.
And I think you're actually gonna be working on that show, guest.
So that's yes. How about that three hours of amazing
content prime time Mallard from seven to ten on the
East coast, that's Afternoon Drive on the West coast four
(17:07):
to seven, and that's Uh, that's pretty good. I love Rob.
You know, we we've had meals with Rob. I think
Rob's great. I love that he's he's a ship ster
and he's got strong opinions, and he rocks the boat
and he's good, he's entertaining. So I'm excited to go
into the really the radio octagon with Rob Parker. We're
(17:27):
gonna have fun with that. That is, so that's gonna
be may correct, Yes, that is may Now. I know
part of the reason why you're not apprehensive about doing
this is because you're already used to k l a
c a M. Five seventy here in Los Angeles covering
your show up, so this will be no different for
you during the prime hours here in Los Angeles is
(17:49):
being covered up? Uh yeah. Well. One one thing that
we point out here that does have I get covered
up reruns of baseball games, which is really a kick
in the nuts. But I understand, and they sold it.
They have advertising whatever. Good for them. I don't really care.
And I used to get really upset about being covered
up and I rant and rave and I remember one
(18:09):
time years ago when Fox Sports Radio was in his
early days, and I found out that the they were
replaying Olympic events overnight, and I was getting covered up
by like, you know, lose or something like that. But
did you say women's ice hockey, Well that was yeah,
I was even before that. Yeah, I got preempted by
women's Olympic trial hockey, which was really a just a
(18:29):
dagger to the to the gut. But but I learned
at some point, you know, you do the show and
if people love the show, they'll find the show, like
the fans of the show will find it. You can't
really worry about that. And the great thing now more
than ever, like back in those days there was no podcasting,
didn't really exist. You either listen to the show live
or that was it. But now like if you miss it,
you can there's like seven thousand different ways you can
(18:51):
hear the show. You can satellite radio and if you're
driving a truck, get satellite radio. Can hear the show.
UM almost always cleared on on Sirious x M channel
eighty three, and you've got I Heart Radio. The streaming services.
There's some other streaming services. We're not supposed to say
that our shows on that you can also listen to, uh,
and then we've got the I Heart app with podcasting
and all this, it's like a zillion ways you can
(19:11):
hear the show, so I don't really rebut it it's nice.
And it's limited though, because I mean, we're doing this
for a limited time before we go follow Jill Rogan
of Spotify, right, yes, yes, yes, I'm right now. It
doesn't have to Spotify anyone that has a hundred million
dollar check. I am in. I don't care if you
have no listeners. I could be talking into a garden hose.
I don't care. I will yell into that garden hose
(19:34):
loud and proud. Chi ching, Chi ching. I'm telling you
right now, my dream is to be a sellout. I
want people to call me a sellout. I want people
to say, you're just some rich guy. I want that,
you know. I did a monologue this week about the owners,
and everyone's like shaming the owners in baseball, taking the
side of the players. I think because people look down
upon the rich, even though everyone's rich, it's just that
the owners are more wealthy. They're super rich, they're aristocrat
(19:57):
rich and all that. But my I don't I don't
feel that. I don't. I don't just look down upon
people because they have a lot of money. Nor do
I look down upon people because they have no money,
you know, so, but a lot of people do that.
But I would like to be one of those people
that has ridiculous few money. Uh, And that is the goal.
But I'm looking forward to working with Rob. That'll be fun.
It's a standalone, one time thing. Uh. They you know,
there's a chance to do more than that. But I
(20:18):
want to do the Overnight show and I didn't want to.
I want to miss that, but I am gonna miss
it one day this coming week. But you can still
hear me and you just and we're still doing the
podcast and all that, so it'll still be on. So
you get plenty of plenty of this nonsense. Now, that'll
be beautiful. So you'll be working with Rob Parker, myself
and also Wrong Button, Bob and the Vegan. That's like
(20:39):
the dream team, right, you're gonna have You're gonna have
five people that are fully attentive at one time during
the show. How does that make you feel? That is
a low blow because you're no, because you're usually correct
me if I'm wrong, But you have no editors during
your show. You have no interns and then limited staff. Yeah,
(21:03):
we we have nothing. We we have nothing, um, alright,
So moving on from that, and and so again that's Thursday,
this coming Thursday. Here the was it may may you
can although on the schedule it's his February twenty. I
don't know if the SAD the schedule out for the
company it says February twenty eight. Maybe I can have
a time machine and go back and do it on
February twenty eight, um, which we could go out without
(21:25):
masks on February and we could you know, go to
restaurants and sit down and eat like human beings. It's
amazing thing anyway. So uh, instead of set it and
forget it, just forget it now. A couple of weeks
ago we said we we thought we had a guest.
It didn't work out well. One of the people that
was in the running to be that guest. I have
(21:45):
been negotiating and I'll i'll let you in behind the
curtain here. And so we're trying to figure out who
do we want to put on the podcast. You know,
this is designed for for interviews and whatnot. And in fact,
we've got coming up in a minutes we'll hear from
Dr G who's uh working in the hospital on the
East coast, and he wanted to tell his story, so
(22:06):
we'll get to him coming up in a comus. But
I wanted to talk to some people that are like
I'm big fans of you know, and and one of
those people I grew up stand up late at night
watching infommercials. And the legend of infomercials is this guy
named Ron Pope Peel from the showtime Rotisserie Chicken. I
(22:29):
believe is the I think that was the item there,
but he had the line said it and forget it,
one of the great lines ever said. And so I
am Facebook friends friends with Ron Pope Peel, and so
I reached out to him, and then he directed me
towards his publicist. So, believe it or not, I still
got a publicist. He's not actively working anymore. He's an
(22:52):
older gentleman. And I reached out to the publicist's very
nice woman for Ron Popeel, and we've been going back
and forth in email for the last couple of weeks.
And she she originally when I first contacted her, was
very excited. She said that Ron would be perfect, but
she had to check with Ron and all this stuff.
And so anyway, we went back and forth, and much
(23:13):
to my dismay, here we have been rejected by Ron
Pope Peel. He has decided not to do it, and
I'm trying to figure out why. And I'm not sure.
Maybe it's because of Lenny Dikester. I don't know. Because
they asked for a list of the people that we've
had on because I guess, you know, we don't have
(23:33):
big enough names or the wrong names, then these certain
people won't come on. But it's disappointing. I'm still a
Ron Pope Peel fan, not as big a fan, not
as big a fan as I was. I'm not gonna
lie to you, but it would have It would have
been fun because he's had an interesting, interesting career and
all that. But he is decided to pass, which is
his right there, and um, we will get other people.
(23:55):
Who's his rival? Maybe we should know what I should
do is we should try to get his who's the
other big guy the infomercial game that's not like Billy
Mays is dead, so we can't get him on. That's
the guy that you compared me to? You right, yeah,
you look like Billy Mays. How about the sham Wow guy.
Is he still around? The sham Wow guy? Get him on?
Or the my pillow guy that we should try to
get to my pillow guy on as like an f
(24:17):
you to Ron Popio. We could put my pillow guy.
But do you think some people do you think your
audience would be offended? Like because he's a Bible thumper?
Do you think like Ron? Yeah? Or the pillow Yeah.
Mostly just there's certain people that run around looking for
things to be offended. So those people will be offended.
The people that are running around the always offended crowd. Yeah,
(24:41):
I'm offensive. That is offensive to me. How dare you
calm down, snowflake? Let's get to this doctor. What do
you say here? All right? So just give you the
backstory again if you missed the beginning here, I don't
know how you missed the beginning. But I got an
email about a week ago from a fan of the
show who works at a hospital on the East Coast,
(25:03):
and he did not want to use his name, but
he felt it was important. He wanted to tell his
story about the coronavirus and what he's experienced, and he
was upset with some of the media coverage and the
way this thing is being portrayed in the media. And so, uh,
let's welcome in. We're gonna call him Dr G. And
we welcome him him into the Fifth Hour with Ben
(25:24):
Maller and David Gascon. So the first question we'll start
with this, Dr G. Why did you contact me? Yeah,
you know, I'm just I'm frustrated with um the way
that all the scientistic information about the coronavirus is being presented.
We have, you know, just a vast amount of information.
None of it's very good because none of it's really
(25:45):
been pure review and they're all small, little studies. But
unfortunately only the negative side is being displayed. And you know,
your famous mind is when the legend becomes the fact
to go with the legend. And it's frustrating because no
positive information is really being display to the public. Yeah,
and so you're working there, you're in the hospital, and
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what has it been like the last couple of months,
because you see, I know, the first month you saw
the news stories. You're on the East coast, but the
news stories were like everything is being gonna be overwhelmed
and all that, And what is your experience, your personal
experience been like, you know, so I'm coming from the
surgical side, not necessarily the medicine boards, but we had
to completely shut everything down. We were very worried that
(26:29):
we were going to run out of personal protective equipment.
A lot of it comes from overseas, and so that
was a big issue. And also we wanted to be
able to funnel it towards the medicine side and save
in the case they call on us because we take
care of a lot of these patients on the respirator um.
I think the biggest frustrating thing is I had a
lot of patients who have come in and although their
(26:49):
surgeries aren't considered emergency surgeries, you're like your gallbladder um.
There's conditions that they can't function unless they get surgery,
and they can't go to work. So not only is
the coronavirus people off, now I have more and more
people who would be delayed too. For six weeks to
go back to work after a surgery, you have now
been delayed, you know, two or three months, not taking
(27:10):
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radio app Yeah, and just to follow that up, I
mean you mentioned the science and we've talked about it
on this podcast a bit, because you are right, it
seems like anything that is positive. You think, normally in
(27:32):
a situation like this where it seems pretty bad at
the beginning, when things change, people would get excited. But
people make their mind up in that. But but you're
in the medical industry, so what are you what are
the people around you when you guys, when you're talking
behind closed doors there without giving any names to violate
hippo loss, but like, what what is the what is
(27:53):
the conversation like? And how does this relate? You know,
you've been been around for a few years, so how
many How does this relate to some of the other
things that you've experience or the other doctors have experienced.
So you know, between you, me and the fence post,
I think it's everybody listening. A lot of us think
that this is absolutely like we're living in the twilight zone.
We don't understand. You know, it's good to be cautious.
This is not something to just blow off and make
(28:16):
a joke about. I mean, people are dying, and their
mothers and sisters and brothers and fathers. Um. But just
the vast or the rash steps that we've taken to
prevent this. We're all looking around each other and sitting
in the lounge or were on the wars and talking
and being like, this is not nearly as bad as
it's been predicted. Why are we not changing things and
(28:37):
getting more focused towards back to health. Thymus were um
and you know, I mean this kind of the same
thing happened in two thousand nine, and speaking with a
lot of the folks that were around then, obviously it
was a more familiar virus um than what's now and
it was discovered in the United States, so I think
that gave us a little more sense of security. But
you know, Dr Fauci was on the news saying to
(28:59):
say things, don't touch your face, don't touch your mouth, um.
But nobody was required number of masks. We didn't perform
social distancing. Some students got led out of school, but
it wasn't nearly at this And so you know, even
these top minds, you sit around and talk with them.
And I talked with people from other cities, other hospitals,
different regions. People are a little bit perplexed as to
(29:20):
why these decisions are being made. Be sure to catch
live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two
a m. Eastern eleven p m Pacific dr G. Before
we brought you on on the podcast, but and I
had talked about a couple of different things. But one
of them he had mentioned was that you did not
want to use your name and where you're working at
for specific reasons. Um, what are those reasons? And why
(29:43):
do you feel like you can't come out specifically to
acknowledge like where you're at and what you're doing. You know,
it's really for fear minute the backlash. Um, it's there's
so much of it. You look at anybody who talks
about this positively and they're pretty much off precise. Um,
and the things that we're talking about, And I'm going
to say that about my opinions, these are this is
(30:06):
just published at a period view data. And even if
you try to have a civil conversation with someone about this,
if they are not in the know, Um, they look
at you as if you have some type of agenda.
And I hate I don't want to talk about politics.
I don't really prescribe to either side, But a lot
of this is being played as that, as that either
the left or the right, and there's some type of
(30:26):
political agenda, and I just don't want to deal with
that kind of backlash because I'm not here to uh,
you know, advocate for any side of here to maybe
give people a little bit of hope that things are
going to get better and they're not going to be
as bad as they've been predicted. Yeah, Like taking a
line from Dragnet's like the names have been changed to
protect the innocent, and you're in that position. Um, while
(30:46):
you've been working or even away from from the hospital. Um,
has anyone that you either know directly or indirectly come
across individuals that will work for FEMA? Um? I do
you have a friend who's worked for people to four? Um?
He was big with Hurricane Katrina. Basically he does inspections
(31:08):
of damns and housing sites, flooding fights, things like that.
But no one working with this specifically. Okay. The reason
why I was asking is because Ben and I have
gone back and forth on this because we're here in California. Uh, California,
New York, Texas, Arizona, and Florida are a big among
the biggest names in the cross the United States with
(31:31):
how their numbers have been cases versus deaths, deaths versus cases,
and also elderly versus the young. But people have made
this statement that states like Florida are manipulating their numbers
for the sheer reason of bringing down their cases. Do
you find or do you feel that any of that
information is actually accurate at all? Or do you feel
(31:52):
that what Governor of Santis has been publicizing and obviously
displaying is accurate to your best to your knowledge, you know,
I think the issue with all of these numbers is
that we're looking at a very limited set of data. UM.
The biggest thing with this is, depending on who you read,
(32:14):
the people that have this never know they're going to
have it, are entirely a symptomatic and a bunch of
us have been exposed and we're all younger individuals, UM,
and we mean direct contact with people we didn't know
they had it. We've operated on some people didn't know
they had it. We've never had any symptoms. So you
look at the numbers that are reported, and if what
these studies are saying is accurate, you need to at
(32:35):
least double the number of confirmed cases, if not multiply
it by five times. And so now that makes your
denominator huge in terms of looking at the infection fatality
rate UM and it drops it down, you know, two
to five times what it is. And if you want
to bring an antibody testing into the conversation, it goes
down even more. I mean they investing maybe fifty times
(32:58):
more people have already had this, So it's really hard
to say which numbers are accurate, which numbers are inaccurate.
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it's it's interesting, dr G. Because I have some friends
(33:20):
that are in the medical industry and they've told me
that they they think this has been in America since
like maybe December, possibly before that, with people traveling from
China and the things spreading around. So this shutdown didn't
start till March, so you're i mean, the timeline on this,
it's kind of mind boggling when you think about the
amount of people that came out of Wuhan, China, where
(33:42):
they think this started and to America, to two hub
cities in America, and then those people went out and
this is as contagious as everyone thinks it is, but
not as deadly as everyone you know now thinks it is.
It's really crazy. I think this this probably went around December, January,
February three months unchecked, and then in the United States,
and then in March they decided that we better, we
(34:03):
better roll this out. It's it's kind of I mean,
the numbers are are what have you been tested through
the antibodies or any of that stuff, or have you
had the coronavirus. We have not been testing. Only way
we're getting tested is if we become a symptomatic UM
excuse me, symptomatic pardon me. I have been exposed to
multiple individuals UM. And you know, essentially they didn't have
(34:27):
a stop coming to work. It was just you go
and you wear your N ninety five the entire time
that you were there, and if you start to develop
any symptoms UM that they would test you because they
were trying to keep the kids. Essentially, for those who
were symptomatic UM. The biggest reason is because the kids
aren't very good and so you have to use multiple
testing kits on folks to actually ensure that they have
(34:48):
the coronavirus. And then you know, those are the folks
that you treate outs you a hiring unit of care,
so they're not just testing us, UM testing us widely.
And to talk to your point, you look at the
number of flights that come into l a X from
UM Asia, especially China every day. I mean you're talking
about thirty fifty thousand flights UM in that time span
string in November through Christmas where this thing was just
(35:11):
going unchecked. Dr G. Two other questions that I need
to do in terms of follow up with this based
on what you're doing your activity level instead the hospital.
One is what is the morale like? And then too
what are your schedule has been? Like are you working
twelves or you working eight teens? Are you're working twenty four? Is? Like,
how has that been structured? And do you feel like
(35:32):
there's a lot more strain built on the hospitals now
that you're at UM as opposed to the pandemic actually
opening up? So I think morale UM is a little
down just because we've been UM you know, sort of
clamped down by the system just to try to ensure
that everyone's safe. Um, we're also when things are opening
(35:55):
up for us here, we're starting to get back to
our normal daily lives. But people have very highly active people,
especially in surgical fields, and when you're sitting around you're
unable to do things, you're not able to act. That
definitely weighs on you. In terms of hours, you know,
we work alone anyone and we're usually there from trove
the fourteen hours a day regardless, So it really hasn't
(36:16):
changed it for us. I think probably on the side
of the medicine folks, UM there there maybe a little
bit longer in terms of days in a row now
because they're trying to separate people or you keep half
the staff out for as many as you can for
a week at a time, so that if people do
become symptomatic and test positive, if they have to go
out for two weeks, then you can bring in folks
(36:37):
in their stead. So I think they've been doing some
longer shifts in terms of the number of days now.
Correct me if I'm wrong, because I do have friends
that work out here in Los Angeles at CECH Medical
for usc U c L A Providence hospital as well.
And they actually have to go through procedures they have
to go through to training to get and to wear
(36:58):
a ppe mass um to take out any kind of
of medicine. And that doesn't even include UM any Z packs.
Has that been the case for you guys back east
to No matter what field of the hospital that you're in,
whether you're a doctor, nurse, pharmacy, whatever it may be,
you have to go through extra protocol to get these devices.
Oh yeah, it's uh, it's really can it's really gone
(37:20):
through the riff of the stuff. Is you know who
thought having needs to be worth gold actually found a
box in my house from what I had been painting, uh,
and it was a great pay So yeah, I mean
we've gone through dawning and daffing all of the ppe um.
The American College of Surgeons has gone through a very
rigorous or creative regular set of guidelines for especially innovating patients,
(37:42):
exhibiting patients changing out trade theostom is anything that has
to do with the airway because this has transmitted through
droptalizations UM. And so now we're requiring before we can
go into the operating room. It's only the anenthesiologists and
the certified nursing assistants who are in the room within
the fives on and protect you here innovating the patients, um,
(38:03):
and we treat them all if they have this version
of the coronavirus, and then we're allowed in. And when
the patients are exhibited after procedure, we have to exit,
and then the whole room has to be completely turned
over and sterilized. And we're only using specific rooms and
specific equipment for patients. Okay, So when you take the
when you take the Batman suit off, and you're outside
(38:25):
as a normal civilian, are you exercising, are you out
and about regularly? And also are you wearing any kind
of mask when you're outside the hospital. So I am
doing my best to respect the wishes of the general
public in terms of that, I have been keeping my
social distance. I try to do things tradiciously when we're
(38:48):
opening up here now. But before this happened, um, you know,
I want to people have a lot of information they
received and I'm not going out of my way to say, hey,
I know better than you, I know more than you.
I'm not going to follow the steps. Masks here were
never a huge thing, um, you know, and unfortunately, there's
a lot of misinformation about the masks which give people,
(39:09):
UM kind of a false sense of security. UM. You know.
University of Minnesota actually in April when this suggestion came out,
their Center for Infectious Disease and Research, I mean, they
came out with a summary about the use of masks, UM,
you know, and to to give you a quote, UM
basically Master, Well, before we get into this, masks are
(39:30):
not very effective. Cloth masks the particle sizes which you're
trying to protect from getting into your lungs, the coronavirus UM.
Cloth masks stop maybe two to three pent of those
particles from going in. Even surgical masks aren't great about
is the best UM And there's been no studies that
have ever shown that wearing masks is actually decreased UM
(39:52):
the transmission of upper recipy infections, but not with any
statistical significance. There is some correlation, so, I mean, you know,
the call and they said, leaving aside the fact that
master ineffective, telling the public to wear cloth or surgical
masks could be interpreted by some to me and that
people are safe to stop isolating at home and or
stop you know, we're safe to stop using social distancing.
And so I actually I think that that recommendation may
(40:14):
have been inappropriate, um, because you know, you see a
lot of people aft with their masks on. They're touching
them all the time, touching their face, touching their cell phone. Yeah.
Think it's a false sense of security. Yeah. And just
to kind of wrap this up, Dr G, I'm so,
I'm glad you reached out your fan and I appreciate that,
and I appreciate what you guys are doing there at
the hospital. But anything that we've missed here that you
(40:35):
wanted to pass on to the person listening here that
you think is important that we have completely screwed up
and not gotten to. I don't think you guys to
screw up anything, and I appreciate you having me on um.
It was nice to you to make some time for me. Um.
I think the best thing for the individual to do
and for the for their families is do whatever you
needs is best. If you want to continue social isolating,
(41:00):
if you think that wearing a mask is important, if
you think that not all the public events is important,
it's best for you and your family. You know, each
individual is different. Obviously, this thing affects people differently based
on their predisposed conditions, based on their age, and definitely
follow whatever your local and federal government is telling you
to do. But I think in the grand scheme of things,
(41:21):
this the extremes that we've got to in order to
prevent the transmission of something that moreb and likely has
already been spread throughout a majority or at least the
large percentage of the public, and something that for the
most part, most people will be just fine. And Okay,
I think that when things open up and when you're
allowed to go back treat life is normally thin. And
(41:45):
don't be afraid to hello to someone. You don't need
to wear a mask. It's okay to pick up somebody's law,
and if they drop and hand it to them, you know,
I don't let this thing change the way you live
for the rest of your life, because we're gonna look
back on this in five or ten years and say, hey,
it wasn't that bad. Dr g. One lighter remark that
I need to make to you two is we appreciate
(42:06):
you obviously reaching out, but uh, I know that you
confided in me before we passed you law to ben
that you're actually more of a fan of the Fifth
Hour as opposed to Ben's overnight show. Yea, and I
know that. Come on, you know, I really I missed
David's voice on you know, the regular show. I mean,
I'm a podcast listener and just you know you keeping
them on only on the weekend. This is what he
(42:28):
parks crooking every time. He just wants to make you
notice more. Wow. I mean that is did you what
the hell is going on? Let's work back east. I
gotta give a cross fishing fishing. I appreciate a guy.
One other thing of the public, don't drink your yurn
whatever you do. I want you to do that, not
recommend you see that's from the radio show that you're
in drinking from the radio show. All right, listen, be
(42:50):
safe out there. Dr G. Thank you man, and thanks
for listening over the years. Here we'll talk to you
again sometime. Thanks you, guys. I appreciate it. Had a
great one. Be safe.
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It's uh long time coming. One day has passed, but
I did my God's I did God's work for at
least one day, Ben Maller, and uh, I will wait
for you to eloquently and politely acknowledge what you're gonna
be doing over the weekend here the next couple of moments.
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Oh so you're you You would like that right now
as I as you gonna get to that letter. But
I can do that now if you want. No. No,
But you know what, I was just thinking about this
um earlier in the week because I was driving the studio.
I noticed two things. Uh One, there was a ton
of traffic, and as I got to the studio, too,
there was no sign of of Ben Maller. I'm kind
of curious, like everybody else coming back to work won't
(02:16):
even get your ass in the studio. Uh well, I
am really following the guidelines of management, and they've not
asked me to come back. I did go down there
to pick up some mail. If I had to have
to go back because Doc Mike sent me a book
about piss so I guess I've got to pick that up,
which he thinks is he thinks once I read this,
I'll be brainwashed and I'll be hornswaggled into like guzzling
(02:41):
my urine after this, which I am very confident will
not happen. Uh. And there's some other things I need
to pick up. So I will go in there. And
I have considered, you know, randomly, you know, going in
and doing a doing a show. But I have a
set up here. And the thing that I've noticed now
because they have the company has me doing these YouTube
videos in the home studio, it's set up per quickly
to record these things, and it's not set up the
(03:04):
same way in the main studio, which you think would
be the opposite, but it's not. And I've I'm a
pretty good set up here that I've got my routine down.
So I know at some point I'm gonna have to
figure out how to do do the the setup in
in the hub, but that's part of it. But now
I haven't haven't gone in there, and maybe i'll maybe
I'll go in at some point and surprise you. I'll
(03:24):
pop in and say, hey, look here I am. Do
you miss me? Do you miss coming into the studio?
You know I do. But I'm at the problem. I'm
getting used to this now. It's been two months of
doing the show from the home studio, so I'm kind
of used to that now. But I like the energy.
I've always got into radio. One of the reasons I
got a radio is because I loved walking into the
radio station. Remember the first time I walked into the
(03:45):
Mighty six ninety in San Diego and I was like,
this is awesome. The vibe, the energy. Of course, there's
none of that right now at radio stations because because
of what's going on. But I'd really like to get
back in that. You feel like, you know, special when
you walk in there. You feel like this is a
big job. You know when you walk into a race station.
When you walk into your home studio, you don't feel
that big, you don't feel that important. And in a plus,
(04:07):
it's cool. I mean we we worked Steve Harvey, a
legend entertainment. His studio is right across the hall from us.
There's so many great stars that work at Premiere in
radio in our profession that it's you feel like this
is big. You know, this is cool where we with
all these legends and then now we're all we're all
a part more than ever. Yeah, there's something really empowering
(04:27):
about getting off the four oh five freeway. I know.
I know now that Claire. Now our studios if you
ever come to l A when things open up and
we invite studios people into the studio and stuff, the
studios are right where the four oh five and the
one on one merge. And I'm happy to report that
I take the one oh one. I do not get
(04:50):
on the four oh five. The only reason I were
to get on the four oh five is if the
offer amp right there at the Ventura is shut down
for some reason or sup Paul, and I'll I'll then
have to jump on the four or five. But that's it.
I don't don't go on the four or five. That's
a point of demarcation. I do not cross the four
oh five. Don't do it. Don't cross it. Yeah, you
(05:13):
don't even cross it when you go get Tito's Tacos.
That's true. I saw that Tito's is opening up on
June one, but only only four delivery and only local deliveries.
So that means we were trying to figure out. I
was talking to the wife about this. I was like,
how are we gonna get my my tetoes fixed? Because
I don't have an address right near ttos. So I
(05:34):
was thinking, either maybe I'll deliver the car, you know,
I could sit in there, you know, parking lot somewhere.
Or my father in law has a business in downtown
Los Angeles. He's he runs a like a a storage
warehouse thing in in l A. So I could go
maybe at his place and then have him deliver there,
which I think is close enough that it might work.
(05:56):
So I have spent some time thinking about I wonder
if they take telephone call is because Chick fil A,
which is down the street from US and and Sino
was doing that. They have the Chick fil A app,
So they'll only serve you if you're either driving through
the drive through or you order through your app, and
then you can pick it up either the parking lot
or you can pick it up at the at the door,
(06:18):
like they'll have a door where you have a couple
of vendors that come in and out servers. Yeah, yeah,
I I went last week, uh, and to to make
sure my dad was still alive. I don't I don't
want to get in trouble guests come. But I did
visit my father. I'm a bad person. I did. I
visited my old man and so I picked up some
we picked up some food to to bring to him,
you know, some meal and obviously, and we went to
(06:41):
a restaurant that we like. And you can't just walk
up in order at that place, you had they had slass.
You had to park your car and you had order
on the phone. So even though I was right there
talking to the person, you know, we were talking about it,
they had now you gotta go, you gotta do it
on the app or whatever, and that that whole thing.
They didn't have a drive through. Now, So what's uh,
(07:01):
what's on the menu today? All right? So this is
a mildly marginally entertaining show. We're in the in the
middle part of this show, we're gonna get to another doctor.
We're gonna call him Dr G. And this is a
fan of the show. This is a fan of the
podcast on the radio show who reached out to me
(07:22):
to come on this podcast. He had some things he
wanted to say. He was upset with the the narrative
about the coronavirus in the way that it's being described
in many of the mainstream media outfits. And he felt
like he's on the front lines. They're working at a
hospital on the East Coast, and he wanted his story told.
And I was a little skeptical at first because I
(07:44):
was I don't really know, but he We had him confirmed.
We did our due diligence to make sure he was legit,
because I, you know, anybody can email me from any
you know where, and but this guy is a legit guy.
He sent us I mean everything possibly you could imagine
to verify who he was is and uh and he
did that and so so that's that's how this all
(08:04):
kind of began. And we'll have him on talking about
his story and whatnot. But before we get to that,
we've got the flint Stones meets the Jetsons. Instead of
set it and forget it, just forget it, we've got that,
but we begin with what's in the box? What's in
the box? So you know, I I'm pretty much hermit.
(08:29):
I go I leave my house for like an hour
a day here, Uh, I go for a walk. Sometimes
it's an hour and a half. I went on a
two hour walk the other day. I got I couldn't.
I'm in a sleeping very well it was, which sucks.
And so as I get up, is I gotta get
some sun, get out, get a little daylight, you know,
see the world, walk around. I can't go to the
gym anymore. That's over. So I went out walking around.
(08:49):
But uh so then, you know, I don't usually check
the mail, even you know who's gonna send email. So
they get this message, Hey, go check your portion from
from from gag on. So I go out there and
there's this big box you know what, I'm thinking, Oh boy,
And it's got some kind of like like a health
label on it. You know, I see like like a
buzzword there, like you know, I think I saw organic
(09:11):
on that or something like that. So I'm like, what
the what the perishable perishable perishable is not organic? But
I saw there's a big word on the box, big
block box. I liked, did guests gott have Doc Mike
send me goat head or something like that? And so
then I this massive box. I take it through the
front door of the Mallard mansion. I put it there
on the kitchen counter. I then have to run back.
I grabbed some scissors to kind of cut open the boxes.
(09:33):
It does say perishable on it. I opened the box
and it says here there's a message right on top.
It says to Ben Maller from West of the four
oh five. Never in my whole life have I ever
been more afraid to see the end results of this endeavor.
God help us all. And there is a what looks
like a beautiful piece of meat here. It's American wagu
(09:58):
Tomahawks steak ball in. And I assume you want me
to do like a cooking video guest on, Is that
what you would like me to do here? Just you know,
I was thinking of that, asking maybe Fats to come
on to guide you through this, but he's currently probably
lighting himself on fire again. But to give you the
skinny on this thing, it's it's forty ounces two and
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a half pounds or two pounds. Excuse me, um, and yeah,
I a buddy of two friends of mine, Um Colin,
who you you've got a chance to meet a couple
of weeks ago, Uh Colin, And my other buddy Patrick,
who who's on the front lines as well, working in
um l a city fire department. Um, we actually went
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to the Langham Hotel like a year or two ago
just to go out and have some dinner. And they
have a restaurant in the steakhouse called the Royce and
I've never had a tom hank before, and so a
friend of ours actually worked there and she's like, you
gotta get it. So they brought out this giant dish
and that's all we d me. Colin and Patrick. We
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ordered the Tomahawk, which was a little pricey, but I
kid you not, with forty ounces, I could ate that
whole damn thing myself. It was so good. But we
absolutely demolished that thing. And I figured this would be
a perfect present for the guy that celebrated his birthday
that absolutely threw me against the cross and stoned me
(11:22):
to death and said I didn't reach out to for birthday.
So given that, given that the shortage and meat, Ben,
this was actually ordered before your birthday. Was my thirty birthday,
just turned thirty. But to be completely transparented, you know,
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it took a while to get to you, just obviously
with the shortage, and uh, well, thank you, it's very
kind of you, and I see the uh it's got
a little pamplet that this thing came with on how
to properly cook the steak. But I noticed there it
says your preference. It's got listed here rare medium, rare
medium medium. Well, I do not see well, do not
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see well listed here? And it's got it's it's it's
somewhat annoying here that they don't have that. They're like
our people are being shunned. You know. The President Donald
Trump loves his food well done, much like myself. So
but I do not see that. But I guess I'll
have to do it medium. Well. Then, yes, I guess
I'll have to get a little pink in the middle
there and take the medium. Well, I think you're gonna
have phone with it. I appreciate the very kind of
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you to do that. And this is perfect for when
you because typically say, when you break your fast, you
go all out that day or that night. YEA, yeah,
I go big, I go big. I got I this
week I had let me go to the phone here,
Hold on a second, let check this out. I want
to do some fast. I'll be like you bragging about
my fast fast. No, that was only when my gallbladder
(12:47):
got taken out. That I had my record fast, the
longest fast ever ninety point one hours because I had
I had not eaten for forty eight hours, and then
I went to the hospital and they wouldn't let me
eat for another another couple of days. Uh, let's see
the other day this week, I went sixty four hours
at a sixty four hour fast, and I also had
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a about a fifty hour fast, so I had. Yeah,
so I pretty much ate. I think I I ate
on Saturday, I eat a bunch of food on Saturday,
didn't eat on Sunday, didn't need on Monday, eight on Tuesday,
and then didn't need on Wednesday, and then eight late
on Thursday, and then you know, picked up you know
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for the weekends Friday, Saturday and Sunday, I just eat
like you know, a couple of times or whatever. So well,
you know this from back in the day when you
were you were running around the world, will travel with
the Dodgers that they have this thing that everyone calls
is the slut buster. Um, this will definitely be your
fasting buster. Like I recommend that when you finished a
long fast on a Friday or Saturday, this is on
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the menu. It's front and center and and you know,
I will, I will put that to use there. But
this more of a weekend item. You know, I got
it because because I can't doing the week I got
a lot of crap going on, and we all do it,
but on the weekend, I can just focus on the meat.
Focus on the meat. Now. That leads me to one
thing I gotta push back on you on regarding your
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your regular show Monday through Friday. I thought you had
a golden opportunity to capitalize on something from from Sunday night,
and I was a little shot that you didn't um
the flu game or the pizza game, the food poisoning game.
I thought that was gonna be a perfect opportunity for
you to jump along the same linear lines as Michael
(14:36):
Jordan's because not only did he play in game six
in a closeout game for the Chicago Bulls, but you
actually hosted a show after burning your mouth eating pizza.
No no, no, I see that's your see you miss
getting here. I guess that is not the most impressive
feat of broadcasting with some kind of ailment. Yeah, you
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shoot your pants and then hosted a show. I get
no, no no, no no. Before that, I had gold stones
the most painful thing. You think you're having a heart attack,
and I can the show continued. I kept doing the
show with gold Stones series. I had goll Stones going on. Yeah,
that was that was brutal. But anyway, we ever get
(15:20):
to it because we got a lot to be a
lot very long podcast. So the flint Stones meet the Jetsons.
That is an outdated reference, but you know it sometimes
in television. Typically in television they have crossovers. You know,
it's like where characters of different shows get together. It's
kind of obvious, Like, you know, I grew up watching
the flint Stones and the Jetsons all these old cartoons,
and they had an episode where there's like some kind
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of time machine and Fred flint Stone and the Jetsons
got together and all that. So I bring this up
because I got a phone call from management the other
day and then you know, ring ring, I'm like, anytime
I see management, I'm like, gosh, ship, what did I do?
You know? What did I say? I'm like going through
my head. Did I say something? Did something get on
the other shouldn't have gotten the air? Did they finally
hear O, Mike, you know what's going on? And so Anyway,
(16:02):
management calls me up and they're like, hey, we've got
a proposal, and I was like, okay, I'm listening. Uh.
They said, we want to do a crossover show. I
said okay, uh, and so I I agree to it.
I'm actually excited about this. And so this coming Thursday,
I in Thursday and the Friday, the Friday show on
the Overnight. I will not be in the Overnight the
(16:23):
normal seat here, which I'm reluctant to leave that position,
but I will not be on that show Friday of
this week. So no lame jokes, don't send any jokes
for this upcoming week because it won't be on the air.
But I will be sitting in the number two chair
next to Rob Parker on the Odd Couple. I'll be
filling in for Chris Brussard who's got some time off here,
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and I will be a shamuzing with my friend Rob Parker.
And I think you're actually gonna be working on that show, guest.
So that's yes. How about that three hours of amazing
content prime time Mallard from seven to ten on the
East coast, that's Afternoon Drive on the West coast four
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to seven, and that's Uh, that's pretty good. I love Rob.
You know, we we've had meals with Rob. I think
Rob's great. I love that he's he's a ship ster
and he's got strong opinions, and he rocks the boat
and he's good, he's entertaining. So I'm excited to go
into the really the radio octagon with Rob Parker. We're
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gonna have fun with that. That is, so that's gonna
be may correct, Yes, that is may Now. I know
part of the reason why you're not apprehensive about doing
this is because you're already used to k l a
c a M. Five seventy here in Los Angeles covering
your show up, so this will be no different for
you during the prime hours here in Los Angeles is
(17:49):
being covered up? Uh yeah. Well. One one thing that
we point out here that does have I get covered
up reruns of baseball games, which is really a kick
in the nuts. But I understand, and they sold it.
They have advertising whatever. Good for them. I don't really care.
And I used to get really upset about being covered
up and I rant and rave and I remember one
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time years ago when Fox Sports Radio was in his
early days, and I found out that the they were
replaying Olympic events overnight, and I was getting covered up
by like, you know, lose or something like that. But
did you say women's ice hockey, Well that was yeah,
I was even before that. Yeah, I got preempted by
women's Olympic trial hockey, which was really a just a
(18:29):
dagger to the to the gut. But but I learned
at some point, you know, you do the show and
if people love the show, they'll find the show, like
the fans of the show will find it. You can't
really worry about that. And the great thing now more
than ever, like back in those days there was no podcasting,
didn't really exist. You either listen to the show live
or that was it. But now like if you miss it,
you can there's like seven thousand different ways you can
(18:51):
hear the show. You can satellite radio and if you're
driving a truck, get satellite radio. Can hear the show.
UM almost always cleared on on Sirious x M channel
eighty three, and you've got I Heart Radio. The streaming services.
There's some other streaming services. We're not supposed to say
that our shows on that you can also listen to, uh,
and then we've got the I Heart app with podcasting
and all this, it's like a zillion ways you can
(19:11):
hear the show, so I don't really rebut it it's nice.
And it's limited though, because I mean, we're doing this
for a limited time before we go follow Jill Rogan
of Spotify, right, yes, yes, yes, I'm right now. It
doesn't have to Spotify anyone that has a hundred million
dollar check. I am in. I don't care if you
have no listeners. I could be talking into a garden hose.
I don't care. I will yell into that garden hose
(19:34):
loud and proud. Chi ching, Chi ching. I'm telling you
right now, my dream is to be a sellout. I
want people to call me a sellout. I want people
to say, you're just some rich guy. I want that,
you know. I did a monologue this week about the owners,
and everyone's like shaming the owners in baseball, taking the
side of the players. I think because people look down
upon the rich, even though everyone's rich, it's just that
the owners are more wealthy. They're super rich, they're aristocrat
(19:57):
rich and all that. But my I don't I don't
feel that. I don't. I don't just look down upon
people because they have a lot of money. Nor do
I look down upon people because they have no money,
you know, so, but a lot of people do that.
But I would like to be one of those people
that has ridiculous few money. Uh, And that is the goal.
But I'm looking forward to working with Rob. That'll be fun.
It's a standalone, one time thing. Uh. They you know,
there's a chance to do more than that. But I
(20:18):
want to do the Overnight show and I didn't want to.
I want to miss that, but I am gonna miss
it one day this coming week. But you can still
hear me and you just and we're still doing the
podcast and all that, so it'll still be on. So
you get plenty of plenty of this nonsense. Now, that'll
be beautiful. So you'll be working with Rob Parker, myself
and also Wrong Button, Bob and the Vegan. That's like
(20:39):
the dream team, right, you're gonna have You're gonna have
five people that are fully attentive at one time during
the show. How does that make you feel? That is
a low blow because you're no, because you're usually correct
me if I'm wrong, But you have no editors during
your show. You have no interns and then limited staff. Yeah,
(21:03):
we we have nothing. We we have nothing, um, alright,
So moving on from that, and and so again that's Thursday,
this coming Thursday. Here the was it may may you
can although on the schedule it's his February twenty. I
don't know if the SAD the schedule out for the
company it says February twenty eight. Maybe I can have
a time machine and go back and do it on
February twenty eight, um, which we could go out without
(21:25):
masks on February and we could you know, go to
restaurants and sit down and eat like human beings. It's
amazing thing anyway. So uh, instead of set it and
forget it, just forget it now. A couple of weeks
ago we said we we thought we had a guest.
It didn't work out well. One of the people that
was in the running to be that guest. I have
(21:45):
been negotiating and I'll i'll let you in behind the
curtain here. And so we're trying to figure out who
do we want to put on the podcast. You know,
this is designed for for interviews and whatnot. And in fact,
we've got coming up in a minutes we'll hear from
Dr G who's uh working in the hospital on the
East coast, and he wanted to tell his story, so
(22:06):
we'll get to him coming up in a comus. But
I wanted to talk to some people that are like
I'm big fans of you know, and and one of
those people I grew up stand up late at night
watching infommercials. And the legend of infomercials is this guy
named Ron Pope Peel from the showtime Rotisserie Chicken. I
(22:29):
believe is the I think that was the item there,
but he had the line said it and forget it,
one of the great lines ever said. And so I
am Facebook friends friends with Ron Pope Peel, and so
I reached out to him, and then he directed me
towards his publicist. So, believe it or not, I still
got a publicist. He's not actively working anymore. He's an
(22:52):
older gentleman. And I reached out to the publicist's very
nice woman for Ron Popeel, and we've been going back
and forth in email for the last couple of weeks.
And she she originally when I first contacted her, was
very excited. She said that Ron would be perfect, but
she had to check with Ron and all this stuff.
And so anyway, we went back and forth, and much
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to my dismay, here we have been rejected by Ron
Pope Peel. He has decided not to do it, and
I'm trying to figure out why. And I'm not sure.
Maybe it's because of Lenny Dikester. I don't know. Because
they asked for a list of the people that we've
had on because I guess, you know, we don't have
(23:33):
big enough names or the wrong names, then these certain
people won't come on. But it's disappointing. I'm still a
Ron Pope Peel fan, not as big a fan, not
as big a fan as I was. I'm not gonna
lie to you, but it would have It would have
been fun because he's had an interesting, interesting career and
all that. But he is decided to pass, which is
his right there, and um, we will get other people.
(23:55):
Who's his rival? Maybe we should know what I should
do is we should try to get his who's the
other big guy the infomercial game that's not like Billy
Mays is dead, so we can't get him on. That's
the guy that you compared me to? You right, yeah,
you look like Billy Mays. How about the sham Wow guy.
Is he still around? The sham Wow guy? Get him on?
Or the my pillow guy that we should try to
get to my pillow guy on as like an f
(24:17):
you to Ron Popio. We could put my pillow guy.
But do you think some people do you think your
audience would be offended? Like because he's a Bible thumper?
Do you think like Ron? Yeah? Or the pillow Yeah.
Mostly just there's certain people that run around looking for
things to be offended. So those people will be offended.
The people that are running around the always offended crowd. Yeah,
(24:41):
I'm offensive. That is offensive to me. How dare you
calm down, snowflake? Let's get to this doctor. What do
you say here? All right? So just give you the
backstory again if you missed the beginning here, I don't
know how you missed the beginning. But I got an
email about a week ago from a fan of the
show who works at a hospital on the East Coast,
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and he did not want to use his name, but
he felt it was important. He wanted to tell his
story about the coronavirus and what he's experienced, and he
was upset with some of the media coverage and the
way this thing is being portrayed in the media. And so, uh,
let's welcome in. We're gonna call him Dr G. And
we welcome him him into the Fifth Hour with Ben
(25:24):
Maller and David Gascon. So the first question we'll start
with this, Dr G. Why did you contact me? Yeah,
you know, I'm just I'm frustrated with um the way
that all the scientistic information about the coronavirus is being presented.
We have, you know, just a vast amount of information.
None of it's very good because none of it's really
(25:45):
been pure review and they're all small, little studies. But
unfortunately only the negative side is being displayed. And you know,
your famous mind is when the legend becomes the fact
to go with the legend. And it's frustrating because no
positive information is really being display to the public. Yeah,
and so you're working there, you're in the hospital, and
(26:06):
what has it been like the last couple of months,
because you see, I know, the first month you saw
the news stories. You're on the East coast, but the
news stories were like everything is being gonna be overwhelmed
and all that, And what is your experience, your personal
experience been like, you know, so I'm coming from the
surgical side, not necessarily the medicine boards, but we had
to completely shut everything down. We were very worried that
(26:29):
we were going to run out of personal protective equipment.
A lot of it comes from overseas, and so that
was a big issue. And also we wanted to be
able to funnel it towards the medicine side and save
in the case they call on us because we take
care of a lot of these patients on the respirator um.
I think the biggest frustrating thing is I had a
lot of patients who have come in and although their
(26:49):
surgeries aren't considered emergency surgeries, you're like your gallbladder um.
There's conditions that they can't function unless they get surgery,
and they can't go to work. So not only is
the coronavirus people off, now I have more and more
people who would be delayed too. For six weeks to
go back to work after a surgery, you have now
been delayed, you know, two or three months, not taking
(27:10):
a big hit. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and The I heart
radio app Yeah, and just to follow that up, I
mean you mentioned the science and we've talked about it
on this podcast a bit, because you are right, it
seems like anything that is positive. You think, normally in
(27:32):
a situation like this where it seems pretty bad at
the beginning, when things change, people would get excited. But
people make their mind up in that. But but you're
in the medical industry, so what are you what are
the people around you when you guys, when you're talking
behind closed doors there without giving any names to violate
hippo loss, but like, what what is the what is
(27:53):
the conversation like? And how does this relate? You know,
you've been been around for a few years, so how
many How does this relate to some of the other
things that you've experience or the other doctors have experienced.
So you know, between you, me and the fence post,
I think it's everybody listening. A lot of us think
that this is absolutely like we're living in the twilight zone.
We don't understand. You know, it's good to be cautious.
This is not something to just blow off and make
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a joke about. I mean, people are dying, and their
mothers and sisters and brothers and fathers. Um. But just
the vast or the rash steps that we've taken to
prevent this. We're all looking around each other and sitting
in the lounge or were on the wars and talking
and being like, this is not nearly as bad as
it's been predicted. Why are we not changing things and
(28:37):
getting more focused towards back to health. Thymus were um
and you know, I mean this kind of the same
thing happened in two thousand nine, and speaking with a
lot of the folks that were around then, obviously it
was a more familiar virus um than what's now and
it was discovered in the United States, so I think
that gave us a little more sense of security. But
you know, Dr Fauci was on the news saying to
(28:59):
say things, don't touch your face, don't touch your mouth, um.
But nobody was required number of masks. We didn't perform
social distancing. Some students got led out of school, but
it wasn't nearly at this And so you know, even
these top minds, you sit around and talk with them.
And I talked with people from other cities, other hospitals,
different regions. People are a little bit perplexed as to
(29:20):
why these decisions are being made. Be sure to catch
live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two
a m. Eastern eleven p m Pacific dr G. Before
we brought you on on the podcast, but and I
had talked about a couple of different things. But one
of them he had mentioned was that you did not
want to use your name and where you're working at
for specific reasons. Um, what are those reasons? And why
(29:43):
do you feel like you can't come out specifically to
acknowledge like where you're at and what you're doing. You know,
it's really for fear minute the backlash. Um, it's there's
so much of it. You look at anybody who talks
about this positively and they're pretty much off precise. Um,
and the things that we're talking about, And I'm going
to say that about my opinions, these are this is
(30:06):
just published at a period view data. And even if
you try to have a civil conversation with someone about this,
if they are not in the know, Um, they look
at you as if you have some type of agenda.
And I hate I don't want to talk about politics.
I don't really prescribe to either side, But a lot
of this is being played as that, as that either
the left or the right, and there's some type of
(30:26):
political agenda, and I just don't want to deal with
that kind of backlash because I'm not here to uh,
you know, advocate for any side of here to maybe
give people a little bit of hope that things are
going to get better and they're not going to be
as bad as they've been predicted. Yeah, Like taking a
line from Dragnet's like the names have been changed to
protect the innocent, and you're in that position. Um, while
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you've been working or even away from from the hospital. Um,
has anyone that you either know directly or indirectly come
across individuals that will work for FEMA? Um? I do
you have a friend who's worked for people to four? Um?
He was big with Hurricane Katrina. Basically he does inspections
(31:08):
of damns and housing sites, flooding fights, things like that.
But no one working with this specifically. Okay. The reason
why I was asking is because Ben and I have
gone back and forth on this because we're here in California. Uh, California,
New York, Texas, Arizona, and Florida are a big among
the biggest names in the cross the United States with
(31:31):
how their numbers have been cases versus deaths, deaths versus cases,
and also elderly versus the young. But people have made
this statement that states like Florida are manipulating their numbers
for the sheer reason of bringing down their cases. Do
you find or do you feel that any of that
information is actually accurate at all? Or do you feel
(31:52):
that what Governor of Santis has been publicizing and obviously
displaying is accurate to your best to your knowledge, you know,
I think the issue with all of these numbers is
that we're looking at a very limited set of data. UM.
The biggest thing with this is, depending on who you read,
(32:14):
the people that have this never know they're going to
have it, are entirely a symptomatic and a bunch of
us have been exposed and we're all younger individuals, UM,
and we mean direct contact with people we didn't know
they had it. We've operated on some people didn't know
they had it. We've never had any symptoms. So you
look at the numbers that are reported, and if what
these studies are saying is accurate, you need to at
(32:35):
least double the number of confirmed cases, if not multiply
it by five times. And so now that makes your
denominator huge in terms of looking at the infection fatality
rate UM and it drops it down, you know, two
to five times what it is. And if you want
to bring an antibody testing into the conversation, it goes
down even more. I mean they investing maybe fifty times
(32:58):
more people have already had this, So it's really hard
to say which numbers are accurate, which numbers are inaccurate.
At this time. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports
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Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. Yeah,
it's it's interesting, dr G. Because I have some friends
(33:20):
that are in the medical industry and they've told me
that they they think this has been in America since
like maybe December, possibly before that, with people traveling from
China and the things spreading around. So this shutdown didn't
start till March, so you're i mean, the timeline on this,
it's kind of mind boggling when you think about the
amount of people that came out of Wuhan, China, where
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they think this started and to America, to two hub
cities in America, and then those people went out and
this is as contagious as everyone thinks it is, but
not as deadly as everyone you know now thinks it is.
It's really crazy. I think this this probably went around December, January,
February three months unchecked, and then in the United States,
and then in March they decided that we better, we
(34:03):
better roll this out. It's it's kind of I mean,
the numbers are are what have you been tested through
the antibodies or any of that stuff, or have you
had the coronavirus. We have not been testing. Only way
we're getting tested is if we become a symptomatic UM
excuse me, symptomatic pardon me. I have been exposed to
multiple individuals UM. And you know, essentially they didn't have
(34:27):
a stop coming to work. It was just you go
and you wear your N ninety five the entire time
that you were there, and if you start to develop
any symptoms UM that they would test you because they
were trying to keep the kids. Essentially, for those who
were symptomatic UM. The biggest reason is because the kids
aren't very good and so you have to use multiple
testing kits on folks to actually ensure that they have
(34:48):
the coronavirus. And then you know, those are the folks
that you treate outs you a hiring unit of care,
so they're not just testing us, UM testing us widely.
And to talk to your point, you look at the
number of flights that come into l a X from
UM Asia, especially China every day. I mean you're talking
about thirty fifty thousand flights UM in that time span
string in November through Christmas where this thing was just
(35:11):
going unchecked. Dr G. Two other questions that I need
to do in terms of follow up with this based
on what you're doing your activity level instead the hospital.
One is what is the morale like? And then too
what are your schedule has been? Like are you working
twelves or you working eight teens? Are you're working twenty four? Is? Like,
how has that been structured? And do you feel like
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there's a lot more strain built on the hospitals now
that you're at UM as opposed to the pandemic actually
opening up? So I think morale UM is a little
down just because we've been UM you know, sort of
clamped down by the system just to try to ensure
that everyone's safe. Um, we're also when things are opening
(35:55):
up for us here, we're starting to get back to
our normal daily lives. But people have very highly active people,
especially in surgical fields, and when you're sitting around you're
unable to do things, you're not able to act. That
definitely weighs on you. In terms of hours, you know,
we work alone anyone and we're usually there from trove
the fourteen hours a day regardless, So it really hasn't
(36:16):
changed it for us. I think probably on the side
of the medicine folks, UM there there maybe a little
bit longer in terms of days in a row now
because they're trying to separate people or you keep half
the staff out for as many as you can for
a week at a time, so that if people do
become symptomatic and test positive, if they have to go
out for two weeks, then you can bring in folks
(36:37):
in their stead. So I think they've been doing some
longer shifts in terms of the number of days now.
Correct me if I'm wrong, because I do have friends
that work out here in Los Angeles at CECH Medical
for usc U c L A Providence hospital as well.
And they actually have to go through procedures they have
to go through to training to get and to wear
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a ppe mass um to take out any kind of
of medicine. And that doesn't even include UM any Z packs.
Has that been the case for you guys back east
to No matter what field of the hospital that you're in,
whether you're a doctor, nurse, pharmacy, whatever it may be,
you have to go through extra protocol to get these devices.
Oh yeah, it's uh, it's really can it's really gone
(37:20):
through the riff of the stuff. Is you know who
thought having needs to be worth gold actually found a
box in my house from what I had been painting, uh,
and it was a great pay So yeah, I mean
we've gone through dawning and daffing all of the ppe um.
The American College of Surgeons has gone through a very
rigorous or creative regular set of guidelines for especially innovating patients,
(37:42):
exhibiting patients changing out trade theostom is anything that has
to do with the airway because this has transmitted through
droptalizations UM. And so now we're requiring before we can
go into the operating room. It's only the anenthesiologists and
the certified nursing assistants who are in the room within
the fives on and protect you here innovating the patients, um,
(38:03):
and we treat them all if they have this version
of the coronavirus, and then we're allowed in. And when
the patients are exhibited after procedure, we have to exit,
and then the whole room has to be completely turned
over and sterilized. And we're only using specific rooms and
specific equipment for patients. Okay, So when you take the
when you take the Batman suit off, and you're outside
(38:25):
as a normal civilian, are you exercising, are you out
and about regularly? And also are you wearing any kind
of mask when you're outside the hospital. So I am
doing my best to respect the wishes of the general
public in terms of that, I have been keeping my
social distance. I try to do things tradiciously when we're
(38:48):
opening up here now. But before this happened, um, you know,
I want to people have a lot of information they
received and I'm not going out of my way to say, hey,
I know better than you, I know more than you.
I'm not going to follow the steps. Masks here were
never a huge thing, um, you know, and unfortunately, there's
a lot of misinformation about the masks which give people,
(39:09):
UM kind of a false sense of security. UM. You know.
University of Minnesota actually in April when this suggestion came out,
their Center for Infectious Disease and Research, I mean, they
came out with a summary about the use of masks, UM,
you know, and to to give you a quote, UM
basically Master, Well, before we get into this, masks are
(39:30):
not very effective. Cloth masks the particle sizes which you're
trying to protect from getting into your lungs, the coronavirus UM.
Cloth masks stop maybe two to three pent of those
particles from going in. Even surgical masks aren't great about
is the best UM And there's been no studies that
have ever shown that wearing masks is actually decreased UM
(39:52):
the transmission of upper recipy infections, but not with any
statistical significance. There is some correlation, so, I mean, you know,
the call and they said, leaving aside the fact that
master ineffective, telling the public to wear cloth or surgical
masks could be interpreted by some to me and that
people are safe to stop isolating at home and or
stop you know, we're safe to stop using social distancing.
And so I actually I think that that recommendation may
(40:14):
have been inappropriate, um, because you know, you see a
lot of people aft with their masks on. They're touching
them all the time, touching their face, touching their cell phone. Yeah.
Think it's a false sense of security. Yeah. And just
to kind of wrap this up, Dr G, I'm so,
I'm glad you reached out your fan and I appreciate that,
and I appreciate what you guys are doing there at
the hospital. But anything that we've missed here that you
(40:35):
wanted to pass on to the person listening here that
you think is important that we have completely screwed up
and not gotten to. I don't think you guys to
screw up anything, and I appreciate you having me on um.
It was nice to you to make some time for me. Um.
I think the best thing for the individual to do
and for the for their families is do whatever you
needs is best. If you want to continue social isolating,
(41:00):
if you think that wearing a mask is important, if
you think that not all the public events is important,
it's best for you and your family. You know, each
individual is different. Obviously, this thing affects people differently based
on their predisposed conditions, based on their age, and definitely
follow whatever your local and federal government is telling you
to do. But I think in the grand scheme of things,
(41:21):
this the extremes that we've got to in order to
prevent the transmission of something that moreb and likely has
already been spread throughout a majority or at least the
large percentage of the public, and something that for the
most part, most people will be just fine. And Okay,
I think that when things open up and when you're
allowed to go back treat life is normally thin. And
(41:45):
don't be afraid to hello to someone. You don't need
to wear a mask. It's okay to pick up somebody's law,
and if they drop and hand it to them, you know,
I don't let this thing change the way you live
for the rest of your life, because we're gonna look
back on this in five or ten years and say, hey,
it wasn't that bad. Dr g. One lighter remark that
I need to make to you two is we appreciate
(42:06):
you obviously reaching out, but uh, I know that you
confided in me before we passed you law to ben
that you're actually more of a fan of the Fifth
Hour as opposed to Ben's overnight show. Yea, and I
know that. Come on, you know, I really I missed
David's voice on you know, the regular show. I mean,
I'm a podcast listener and just you know you keeping
them on only on the weekend. This is what he
(42:28):
parks crooking every time. He just wants to make you
notice more. Wow. I mean that is did you what
the hell is going on? Let's work back east. I
gotta give a cross fishing fishing. I appreciate a guy.
One other thing of the public, don't drink your yurn
whatever you do. I want you to do that, not
recommend you see that's from the radio show that you're
in drinking from the radio show. All right, listen, be
(42:50):
safe out there. Dr G. Thank you man, and thanks
for listening over the years. Here we'll talk to you
again sometime. Thanks you, guys. I appreciate it. Had a
great one. Be safe.
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