August 28, 2020 • 48 mins
Taking a pause from the normally scheduled sports programming, Ben and his busted wingman go into another couple of turbulent issues in 2020. Ben makes the TV pivot from channel to channel while David rehashes a painful moment from his youth.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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the weekend does begin. This the Friday Podcast, a guest
free podcast that David Gascon, who's in here, decided, you know,
we do not need any kind of person to talk to.
Usually on Fridays we bring somebody in here, Fred of ours.
I guess we ran out of friends apparently, But we
do this podcast eight days a week, as we said,
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in four hours or not enough. So guest Con as
the executive producer of the Fifth Hour Podcast. So what's
the kind of walking me through the mindset here because
we know that content is king, just like Vince McMahon, right,
that's the key. W W E stas content is king,
right and all that stuff. So, uh, was this a
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bold calculated decision by you to say, you know, we've
had a fair decent run of people that have come
in here, so no more you need to put your
foot down and say that's it. No, I don't think
it was that. I just think it was an opportunity
for us to, uh to mix up our our location
like a good picture, right, you want to go inside
and out, up and down the zone and then change
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speeds a little bit. And I think we can do that,
especially since uh we got some wild times and wild times.
I don't know what you're talking about. It's just been
more than the same. Every day is the same, Some
crazy crap happens. The next day, another crazy thing happens.
Half the people think they're right, the other half think
they're right. Rince wash, repeat, but next But unlike in
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our lifetimes, this is the first time that we've experienced
sports being canceled because athletes are canceling this. That's so
that's something March. I've seen sports canceled twice this year.
Let them lets I don't want to play, I'll go.
I don't care. Don't play. It doesn't affect my life
at all. In fact, I was telling I was telling
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you or somebody else here that when I prepare for
the show and I'm getting ready, I'm looking for things
to talk about. I usually we I want to watch
the games and see if anything happens there that I
feel like it's, you know, good talker on radio. But
now if there's no games, I can get to put
the baby to bed early. I'm good. I mean that
makes my life actually easier, so I will actually have
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an easier time preparing for my job if they don't play.
It's just fascinating a network. And I need you to
explain this to me because and you know this being
in a press box a Major League Baseball games, is
that typically sports writers, when they write a story on
the game of the day that they're at, they don't
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write when the game ends. They're writing it inning by
inning or happening by happening, and then they make their
conclusions and their final assessments and their final judgments after
non innings is played. Why are we not doing that
when it comes to the social unrest that we're having
in today's world, like, why are we having jump to
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conclusion before information, before all the events, before all the
questions are even answered, Because that is good for the ratings,
it's good for social media. You know. The answer I
don't multibillion dollar industries and teams that are ultimately gold
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number one is to take care of yourself and the
bottom line. But in there, see, they have this neurosis
and professional sports where they think that this is the
path to salvation that they by by doing these actions
here and preaching because there's one thing I know you
want when you go watch a game, is you want
to be preached to and be told that you're racist
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or you don't know what you know, you know what's
going on. So, uh, these these leaks and they know
they they have been mesmerized. My theory is they've been
mesmerized first of all by social media, which, as we
have talked about many times, is not reality, right, it's
not reality. It's the matrix. But it's so almighty and
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all powerful in the eyes of these knitwits in positions
of power and sports that they think that is the
barometer and as we talked about several months ago, that
study that came out this year from I think it
was Pew that said that about ten of people on
UH like a platform like Twitter, are responsible for eight
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of the content created by UH the adults in the
U s. It's a very small percentage of people that
are actually out there. So but that doesn't matter because
the people that run these sports leagues and the pr people,
UH My theory is they see the social media reaction,
what's trading was not trending, and they shut it down.
People just like this week the other day, the hockey
played in basketball didn't play, and I, you know, I
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I liked it. I was watching the Bruins game. They
got smoked, they got pig roasted by the It was
like Hawaiian luau by the Tampa Bay Lightning, and I
was like, wow, it's good to watch a game. These
guys actually showed up to work. And then the mob
on social media, I can't believe you played? How dare you?
And so then, of course, because they reacted to the
mob and thinking that there are you know, millions of
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people outraged that the hockey league was playing. Of course
it's not true, and so they genuflected to the online mob.
It is like the matrix, do you take the red
pill or the blue pill pill? And just keeps going up.
But that's that's why they're worried about social media cloud.
They think they're right. The great thing about this and
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if you're if you're someone's like sitting on the outside,
you're outside the ring and you're watching, You're like, wow,
you're you're grading the fight, and you're like, wait a minute. Here,
these guys think they're winning the fight and they're actually
losing the fight, and they're not bright enough to figure
out that that's not reality. And and the reason I
say that, look at the ratings here, which is the
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ultimate report card, the health check right the thermometer on
to see if you you've got an illness or something
like that. And it's not going well. The ratings are
continue to climb. The NBA's down since twelve is down,
but just this year, since they came back and we
were talking, oh man, my sports come back. Everyone's gonna
be watching. I mean, this is gonna be amazing, right.
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People are so desperate for content. Uh, and we're mistaken.
We were mistaken. It's incorec that's incorrect. I mean people
have figured out, you know, they figured out they don't
need it, or those that love it are like, I'm
not gonna watch it because I don't need the you know,
repercussions of the social activists that have hijacked American sport.
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And the other thing about this guest guy, I'm getting
long winded here. I'm doing like a monologue all of
a sudden, but it's I'm just rambling. But here's the thing, Like,
how do you walk out of this? Like what's at
some point there will be an epiphany, there will be
a come to Jesus moment, and the people that run
sports gonna they're gonna crunch the numbers that being counters
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will get in and they will realize, holy fuck, what
have we done? And then how do you get out
of it? Like do you welcome back to military and
the police and hugging is all? We were just kidding
about all that, and but everything is good now, Like
they're gonna have to be wide ranging and you know,
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multifaceted changes. They're gonna have to because it because of
the damage that's being done right now in the landscape
of professional and college sports. To some degree awesome, but
mostly professional. You know what this makes me think of,
to use an analogy, is it makes me think of
of a gambler who's not really in tune with how
to gamble or how to pick teams that just tails
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someone blindly. Because I do think some positives have come
out of this here and stuff in terms of I
think it was the Cults on Thursday registered every one
on their team to vote. So I think those things
are great. I think those things are important because obviously,
when you don't have the majority of people in the
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United States voting in your general elections and your local elections,
like that's a problem because, like you said, we've talked
about this numerous times, like here in California, we got
idiots that are voting to increase our taxes on gas,
Like what the fund is wrong with people? But I've
that's important. I think obviously it's important to get people involved. Well,
but here's the thing on that even that is disingenuous.
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And see that's what that is, people's one thing. But
the problem is is that now you're gonna have them
tail a political alliance just because the way No, I
mean that, that's why you know, I take all this
with a grand sault. Yeah, you know, voting is great.
Everyone should vote. It's wonderful. You should do it right,
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you know whatever we have a right to. You can't
vote in every country and all that. I totally get
you should vote, But it's disingenuous because when I see
vote on the back of an NBA jersey, they're not
They don't want you to vote for Donald Trump. They
want you to vote for Joe Biden. They and they assume, See,
this is the problem I had with it. They assume
that this group think this kool aid think. If they
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tell people their fan based to vote, that they're just
automatically gonna be blind sheep and lemmings and vote for
who they want to vote for. So it's implo II
that they get people to vote that no one would
possibly vote for Donald Trump. It's pretty that part of it.
I find amusing that they think, and maybe they're right.
Maybe they're right. People are just dumb. And you know,
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it's as far as the gambling thing you were talking about,
it's the term is a square. That's what they call
in the gambling right in gambling world in Vegas. If
you're a square, you're average. You're unsophisticated, and you pretty
much make your decisions based on you're easily influenced by
manipulation by the media or celebrities who tell you something, Uh,
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you know, I'm gonna win this fight. Well he said
he's gonna win the fight. I'm gonna better. Or you
have a hunch, better, better, bunch, right, that kind of thing.
And so the the bookmaker has the huge advantage. And
and they love the square. They love the square because
that's who you make your money on when you're running
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a sports book. Is the average, the low information a
sports fan. But you know, they don't want if you're
a sharp and you actually have the information. They hate
people like that that actually have have the information and
get get all the you know, the latest info and
are fully educated and all. They don't like that. That's
because that's real power. And that's the problem I have
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is that you can you can register as many people
as you like, and I think that's really important. But
the other thing is that if you want to take
all of this an additional step forward is that not
only the people obviously that are in this country that
aren't working at the elite level like a professional athlete.
But you gotta get the professional athletes educated too. And
that's the other thing that's that's lost in all of
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this is that you can talk about, you know, voting
for for one political party or another. You can vote
for a governor, you can vote for a mayor, you
can vote for a city councilman. But if you have
no idea what's going on, and you're just blinding like
going political alliance like right down red or right down blue,
then and you're doing everybody a disservice. And it's sucking
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brutal because yeah, I mean, how many of these guys
are are activated in that kind of a realm or
or even educated that kind of capacity either, you know,
I mean, you don't get guys that are are going
to Duke and Notre Dame and all these major universities
of Stanford to cal your USC that are like this
on on this level. You know, like the reality is
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these guys have spent a year maybe two years in
college and what are they doing. They're taking electives? You know. Well,
ab I mean the other thing about that, see, that's
always the Pandora's box, right, because get educated. Well, half
the people think if you're voting one way, you're educated.
The other half think, if you vote this way, you're educated.
You know what he's like, what has educated me? And
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it means you vote for who I want you to
vote for. You know, it's is which is? But But
I mean, the thing about the manipulation is fascinating because
it really just depends, I guess, on what you watch.
I have a family member who watches CNN NonStop, and uh,
you know I I'll go over or sometimes in the
It's on all the time, and they react to everything,
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and I'm I just have to bite my tongue because
I say, hey, there's a video on on the Internet
that disproves what it was just said there on Twitter.
I saw it the other day. I can't. You can't
say that because they're they're totally brainwashed by what they're watching,
the mesmerizing power of the boob tube. It's weird, and
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I don't know, I'm I'm. I feel like there's a
lot of people, even people that we work with, are
pretty much right down the middle. Like I, I don't
vote on one alliance or the other. I kind of
look at both ends of the spectrum and I go
with what's best for me and then what's best for
the community at the time. But yeah, I'm not stuck
and I'm not aligned to anybody because the reality is
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these guys are all in it for themselves. And we
have people that go into these political offices that are
civil servants and then they come out wealthy as shit.
It's like, yeah, that is the easiest path. That you
don't make a lot as a politician, but you make
your money once you're done in politics. Although I think
some of these people, how long has Nancy Pelosi been
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in um DC politics? Yeah, so she must be making
money as she's doing politics. And what was the uh
I think we might have talked about it here. What
was the story? Somewhere along the way, there was a
guy that was, uh, like a secret service guy that
flew around with the vice president. Remember this story. I
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don't know if I talked about it with you where
I heard it, but there's a legendary story. This guy
was like a secret service guy protecting either the vice
president or some high ranking senators, and he just listened
on the plane, the private planes when they were flying
around and they would discuss, you know, hey, we're gonna
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build this big, massive you know, shopping center here, which
will increase property values in this kind of the chef
old part of town. You know, so and so we're
gonna give approval on that. And so he then took
that information and would invest and became like super wealthy
based on just listening to politicians discussed what they were
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planning on doing, just having to have you know, his
ears open on the plane, because that's how that's how
much influence you as far as the economy is concerned,
and they have on this. Yeah, insider trading right now? Yeah, exactly, exactly,
just but now here's is it insider trading if it
wasn't directed to you and you're stepping over here, you know,
that's the whole. Yeah, I don't know. But see going
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back to to your original question about about guests as
I think, yes, yes, no, I don't believe. I think
I like having people. I like to hang out. We
do the electric boogaloo and we hang out. We talked
for thirty minutes. I think that's fun. I loved having
all our my old radio friends like hacks On, Tony
Bruno and Mike North and Lee and all these people
come in here. I love that. Yeah, I guess I've
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run out Jerry Callahan, I've run out of radio friends apparently,
although I did have somebody that I was thinking about
getting on. But I think you can get a big
name in here guests, gut you know, get a big
podcast number. We get we get a really big name
in here. The downloads to go through the roof man,
because a lot of people are podcast snobs and only
listen to interviews and they don't want to hear chatter.
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They don't want to hear conversation like this, but they
want they do the hustle if they see a big
name on a podcast. But well, if that was the case,
then why don't you have guests on your on your
radio show Money through Friday? Because I was told early
on the the time and to call their driven show
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and as a programmer, director told me so, Pett, the
reason I hired you is because you've you can do
a show. You don't need guests. That's a crutch. I
was like, all right, all right, whatever you say, and
uh yeah, and I don't don't give you. I don't.
I think guests are usually pretty bad. But I think
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on the podcast, I like once a week, I think
it's all right, and people I like or whatever, I
think it's a yeah. But but oftentimes my my problem,
this was my issue when I did day parts, like
during the day with guests, is I felt like a
lot of them were so guarded, like the people that
worked in sports, because they didn't want to say anything
to upset anyone that it was just a waste of
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time you'd ask a question. I remember, for example, in
the early days of Fox Sports Radio, I think it
was about five years in, maybe a little later than that. Uh,
we had Mike Montgomery on former yeah, but he was
coaching the Golden State Warriors at the time and not
we had him every week. And not only was Mike
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Montgomery on, he was terrible because the Warriors sucked, and
you know, we were on a big station in San
Francisco at the time and that was the Mike Montgomery
Show to get NBA information. But he didn't want to
say anything because you know, you don't want to get
in trouble, and the team was terrible, so she couldn't
talk about the team. So it just became an exercise
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in futility. Now, one guy that was really good, although
not intentionally good, was Randy Moss. When Randy Moss played
for the Raiders, he had a deal with Fox Sports Radio.
He did not talk to any other media the Randy
Moss Show, which was on Chris Meyers Show, and I
happened to be on that show for a stretch, and
so we had Randy Moss on every week, and he
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he boycotted the media in the Bay Area. He was
upset with some things that had been written, so he
wouldn't talk to any of the local reporters in in
the Bay Area, in San Francisco and all that, right,
So the only place he would talk was our show.
And I figured out after a couple of weeks with
Randy that he and we knew he wasn't happy. But
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if you asked him kind of a leading question, he
would take de bait like, hey, you know, Randy, at
the time, Michael vick was the big star for the Falcons, right,
and they hey, Randy, you know you know what thinking
about Michael Vick. You know, the Falcon's possibly going down,
And he would he would he would answer, and that
would create headlines because he would say, I love to
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play with Michael VICKO. So that's that kind of thing. Well,
now that we're here, yes, we're here all united. What
brings us together? The podcast, that's what brings us together.
Amazing audio content. We do the hokey pokey. You put
your right foot in, you take your right foot out,
you put your right foot in, you shake it all about,
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you do the hokey poke Are you doing the hokey pokey?
And you turn yourself around. That's what it's all about.
When I was a kid, I used to go to
the the local skating rink and they with my cousins
before they moved away the Isoplex and no I lived
in Orange. I live in the OC behind the Orange Curtain.
But I remember they used to do the hokey poke
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and I was a fat kid, and I didn't really
know how to skate that well, so I'd fall down
all the time and it was a big nightmare. So
always dreaded when they said it's we're gonna do the
hokey pokey. I always I tried to like waddle and
skate away so I wouldn't have to be out on
the rink when they were doing that, because I embarrassed myself.
I want to embarrass myself, fat kid falling down trying
to put his right foot out and I couldn't even
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stay in on my left foot. So what are you
doing well? And now several years later and three hundred
pounds shed, you can do that now, yes, and not
eating and having you send me food porn while I'm
not eating. So it's quite a friend over there. What
were you getting to? You said, now that we're here,
I interrupted you for the hokey pot No, it was
a good segue because you mentioning our youth. And uh,
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you know, obviously we're not having a guest on today.
But I figured I talked to you about something that
happened to me. Oh, make it at all about you.
West of the four or five is your box? I said,
west of the four or five, So if you have
your Bingo card out, check the box. No, it's I've
not brought that up at all. By the way, I
must acknowledge the fact that I heard a dirty rumor
that you actually drove your lazy ass into work earlier
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this week. Yes, yes, ship, Yes, I did. I came
in there uh air conditioning, yes, yes, yes, So let
me explain what happened. So, uh, you know, I try
to I believe in the David Letterman philosophy David Letterman.
I was in line for Letterman's audience a couple of
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times in uh in New York back you know, back
in the day before he became like Santa Claus when
he's on TV and all that. So that was a
big Letterman fan back from the you know, the early
days of Letterman when he's on late night and so um.
We were outside the Ed Sullivan Theater in Times Square
several times we got bumped from the audience, but I
got close. You know, they kind of put you in
the lobby and say you might you're in the stand
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by audience, you know, that kind of thing. Never actually
got into the Letterman show, but I remember being in
the lobby and how cold it was, right it was
like the Arctic. I felt like an Eskimo, And so
I try to recreate that the mal I mentioned because
it's very hot where I live, and so I try
to keep it cool. But but then I woke up
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and it was kind of warm, and I was like, well,
it might be the air condition to shut off or whatever.
And then wife went over checked it out, and uh no,
completely off. Dun Skies so I'm like, okay, you know
this is this is not good, but we'll get somebody out.
We'll have it fixed. And so UH called the the
(22:22):
neighborhood air conditioning guy. Very good, you know dude whose
lives close to us and fixes air conditions. And he
came over right away and let me work on this.
And so he half an hour he worked on it,
turned it on. Thing worked good to go. Thank you
very much, you know checks in the mail he left.
I get back. I'm in watching an NBA game. Ifact
the Clippers were playing the Mavericks. The game they scored
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a hundred fifty four points before they voted not to
play anymore. Um, and so so I was I was
watching and then I realized it's getting hot in here.
It's getting hot in here, and then I was like,
what the what the hell? So I walked over the
air conditioner and I hit it broken again, but it
was too late for the guy to come back. So
then I'm like, okay, I got a couple of fans here.
I'll go old school, you know. I got a fan
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behind me, I got a fan on the side. And
then I'm like, wait a minute, I can't have the
fans on what I'm doing the show because the microphone
we'll pick up the noise it will sound like I'm
in a hurricane Laura or something like that, right, So
I can't do that. Some then I'm like, crap, what
am I gonna do? It was like it was I
opened the window and it was still hot, you know,
the outside, and hadn't cooled down. But really, guess guy,
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what I'm trying to tell you. At the very last minute,
I have a pretty long drive. So the last possible moment,
the eleventh hour, I have to decide am I going
or not? And I did it. I got in the
automobile and I drove in to the hallowed I Heart
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Media Building, the home of the premier networks. Were legends
like George Norry, Rush Limball when he comes to l
A does his show, Sean Hannity people along those launch
big stars. And I went in there and uh and
did the show and survived. But I had to wear
the mask and all these all these gayzy rules in
the building and all that big pain of yeah, it's
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the same studio that that everyone else works at. I
risked my life, guest, and I risked my life going
in there working with the unwashed like yourself did, did
your did your bosses tell you to stay at home?
Because I know the biggest reason why you haven't been
coming in is because your boss has told you to
stay at home. Yes, well, I am following company guidelines.
I know you don't, your rebel, your Maverick, not a
Dallas Maverick. But you don't follow the guidelines of management.
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But I do. And so when they give me green light,
go go back, I mean, boom done. But until then,
the station wagon stays out the mallar you know, mallowmobile,
the station wagon, all that stays right out there. And
I know, but but I mean part of the thing
I was like, you also made like a room air conditioner,
you know, just for my my studio. You've been in
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my studio. So I built this thing for w E
I when I was doing the show for Boss was
gifted to you. No, No, I paid for everything. Everything
here I built at me. I set it up in
Jake Warner, the Great Stay Awake with Jake. He came
in here, and you know I had done the wiring,
but I had a couple of wires that were wrong.
And so Stay Awake with Jake, my old guy. He
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came in here, former dodging engineer and he put all
that together and now he was the engineer for the
Kings and the Clippers, and uh so we were were good.
Yeah now that but but it's very hot in here
with it especially with all this radio equipment. So if
the air conditions not on, it's uh, it's like you know,
sitting in a in a sauna. Yeah, that's uh. I
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think it's one of the I think I should get
a gold star gas gun for coming in. Don't you
think I should get a gold star for doing that?
I mean I could have just said I'm not going
to do the show. Uh. We we know people that
would say I'm not doing the show. But right, if
it's not perfect and uh, at least get you know,
pat on the head or something like that. I give
you a pat in the head. I don't want to
pat your bald head. Well it's not bald, it's thinning.
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To see the hair I've got. I've got a version
of like not I'm not full Costanza. I got a
little bit of a call to sack going and maybe
like a mix like I'm I'm morphing into what Benjamin
Franklin looked like at the end, you know, like the
older Benjamin Franklin. Have you seen the gots or somebody said,
(26:27):
I think it was Roberto said, I have the Hogan. Yeah,
I think I got to hold you don't have the mustache.
So that's the only thing if I want to can
grow the mustache. Yeah, if you you know the drawings
of Benjamin Franklin, I think I'm starting to look a
little bit like that if my hair was longer, like
a mix between Franklin and Hogan. But I don't care.
(26:47):
I just wear hats and doesn't matter. I don't I
don't care. That's fine. Now, you did tell a little
bit of a white lie because your communes less than
forty miles from your house too. That is incorrect. That
is a falseho is a falsehood by guests earn and
for for you to be spreading false information, you know
what you are. The fake news media is what you are.
(27:08):
Guess got how dare you? As you know I live
in a super secret location many many miles away from
the Geico Fox Sports radio studio. Well, for the record,
your commute to the station is shorter than my commute
to the station, and I don't have the luxury of
working from home with ten thous dollars. Here we go.
(27:28):
Let me hold, do we do? We have a little
violent now so we can serenade. Guess God here, give
him a merit badge, way to go, just solid job
by you. Guess how do you do it? You're a
such a warrior, such a warrior. I mean you're on
the Mallard gravy train, so I mean you should show
(27:48):
up to work. Come on, I've made you. What is
the Mallard gravy train? Get me see celebrity status and
some of the brightest, all these right, truck drivers, people
that are hard working, people that live east of the
four oh five, people stocking grocery stores and all that.
You know, Uh, what's the other word I'm looking for
(28:11):
with you? The well, no, you're you're not. You're not elite.
The the high brow bull crap from you, right, the
I'm so sophisticated, I'm elitist, Lodi Dah, that kind of crap.
All right, you don't appreciate this, you don't appreciate this.
But I am. I am welcoming. I'm like a greeter
at Walmart. I'm shepherding your elitist snob, pompous ass, and
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I'm allowing you to hang and and and and be
celebrated although you're actually hated by the blue collar worker. Really,
the backbone of the country is manual labor. It's not
it's not the people you hang out with, the white
collar crowd. It is the working class morning, noon, and night.
Those are the people that have their lunch pail the
(29:00):
show up, just like I have my lunch pail when
I do the show late at night. That's amazing because
if we're talking about lunch pails and work and blue
collar like I do most of the work on this
podcast for Ben Maller, that isn't like the the editing
of the booking, the audio, the commute, the stress that
(29:22):
I have to endure. Well, this is like off days
to just come in here for you yet service restaurant
because you didn't want to drive down the street in
Beverly Hills. All right. Yes, when you go to a
Broadway show, yes on Broadway, Yes, you look at the marquis. Yes.
(29:45):
And if the person's names above the marquis, that means
that they are the star of the show. Yes, And
if they are below the marquis. That means they are not.
Now is your name above or below the mark? Let's
do this little exercise. Go ahead, I'll wait. My name
(30:06):
is not on the market at all. So that's even worse.
It is even worse. That's even worse. It's just a
testament to who you are as a leader and lack
of team player. That's that's a little bit difference. Well,
I think I should be committed because I know you're
having a connection fit over there and west of the
four oh five, and you're convincing and bitching and all that. Um.
(30:30):
But before you continue having the outrage of a pamper
toddler denied a toy, let me remind you that when
we created this podcast back in the September, uh, you know,
it's been been about a year now. September I think
September nine is the first day that we launched the Sucker. Yeah.
So when I was putting the podcast together with management,
(30:51):
the great management at Fox Sports Radio and all that,
I was putting all this together. Um, I recall, if
I if I remember correctly, that you know, there were
people lined up around the damn building, protesters they wanted
to work on the on the show, and uh, and
(31:12):
I picked you so I should actually, I mean listen,
that's I could have gone with anyone, and I have this,
you have this unreasonable anger. I mean, there's so many
people that want to be a podcast producer and sidekick,
and you're arrogantly, you know, just unappreciative, spoiled, pample, pampered
the guy over there. It's a bad job by you.
(31:34):
I'd like to be well. As as many people have
pointed out on the email and whatnot, you were born
on third base, and uh, you don't realize how you
got there. Well, the the idea is there's no matter
where you were born, whether it's at home plate and
at first, second, earth, third, you still got a score.
(31:55):
That's the bottom line. So people can get this defeat
used to add it to oh you're holding me back.
Oh man, the man's holding me down. That's holding me down.
What was me? Yeah? I would never do that. You
see the door over there. You're free to walk out
at any point here, you are free to walk out,
(32:16):
and this podcast will continue. It will be no implosion,
none of that. I don't think you'll have fun. I
don't think you'll have as much fun oh please, I'll
get somebody east of the four oh five in here. Man.
But you don't like working with you don't like working
with yes guys? Oh? I love it? What are you
talking about? Love? I've never worked with a yes guy.
I'd like to work with you. My dream is to
(32:38):
wake up one day and have the the Bennett's slobbering
all over me like Dan Patrick has the Dandys. We'll
keep trying wicklick, suck, suck, just that's what it would
be great, keep trying. Ryan's pretty pretty good for you.
And then right Burtinger, Yeah, well, Burst Singer is great
because he works hard, he gets his stuff done and
all that stuff, and he he really doesn't give a
(32:58):
crap about anything else. You know, a lot of these
people get worked up over everything, but he does not.
Speaking of speaking of that, I need to get into
this story because I think you'll appreciate this. Right. Um,
When you were a kid, did you have tonsils removed? Yes?
You did? Okay, wisdom teeth too. I don't know about
the wisdom teeth. No, I don't remember. I remember having
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the ice cream when I had my tonsils out there.
That was a big thing. That's good my mom sold
me because I was very scared as a child I
going to the hospital, and she said, don't worry, bet,
and you can eat as much as you want. And
you tell a fat kid he can eat as much
ice cream as you want, and that your eyes just
lighted up. That was the best thing my mom could
have possibly said. Yeah. Well, the reason why I asked
that and brought that up was this is that for
(33:43):
the past six weeks, I've been I've been having headaches
and and I never get headaches. And I got him
in a centralized area and one of our coworkers here
actually had a really traumatic experience with headaches that call
under then. So yes, yes, So needless to say, I was,
you know, a little alarmed, and you know, you go
(34:04):
down the dark web of the internet and you start
self medicating. It ain't good because you can never look
at web md because you always you have A you
have cancer, and be you're gonna die, yes, and usually
it's B before A, but it doesn't matter. Yeah, but
it's like, what did you tell if you have a
cough all of a sudden, right, that's a problem. If
you have a call for a headache, you've got COVID
(34:25):
or or or you know, or something work. I mean,
so yeah, I mean there's like these indicators, like the
check engine light goes on. But so, so you had headaches.
You didn't mention this. Thanks for you know, I thought
we were friends. I guess we're not. I guess we
are really enemies here. And you didn't say, hey, I
got some headaches here. You know, I would of course
told you just take a couple of adulains. Shut up.
(34:45):
That's what I would have said. That's what happens. You're
not in the market anyways. So I started having headaches.
But exactly at the same time of having the headaches
is my left ear started popping, like popping on the
red like when you debored a plane or you're eating
like a rice Crispy treat and it starts cracking. That's
exactly what's happened to me. So I'm just like, fuck,
(35:07):
you know, like it's in the one centralized area, my
ears popping. It's been going on for six weeks, and
the only time it wasn't around was either I want
to woke up early in the morning or I wanted
to exercise, And so you know, I went to like
a neurologist, and he still couldn't figure it out. And
then a couple of days ago, I went to an
(35:30):
e n T and I told him a story about
when I was a kid. My dad actually told an
I n T, who couldn't diagnose me for something that
was wrong with me, that I couldn't hear. And so
the e n T like, what the hell are you
talking about? And he said, well, Dave can't can't hear.
He's not enunciating when he talks. So when I spoke,
(35:53):
i'd mumbled my words, and sometimes I do it to
this day. Yes I hear that, because you do you
are mumbled. Yes, So sometimes I do that because when
I was a child, I couldn't hear. So when I
was like one or yeah, so when I was like
one or two years old, my dad told the e
n T. And the e n T was like, oh, ship,
you know, you taught me something new. Layman taught me something.
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So he put tubes in my ears. And typically the
ear tubes that you get as a kid last a
couple of months, sometimes maybe like a year. Ben I
went and saw an I n T a couple of
days ago because I thought that's exactly what it was.
I still had a tube in my ear and it
was causing this. Come to find out, I have a
(36:36):
tube still in my ear that's behind behind my ear drum.
That's like causing this major. Yeah, this major. By the way.
Guess fun fact this is we should change the name
of the podcast to the Tube Podcast because I had
as a child, I also had tubes in my ears.
Yeah you had them both. Yes, My my right ear
(36:58):
is my horrible ear. And um, that's the one that
I probably will lose my hearing and at some point,
but I've not been to the ear doctor in a
low My wife wants me to go because I I
can't go swimming if I put my head on. I
do go swimming, but I put my head under the water,
I have the whole I just get water just logged
(37:18):
in there. It's brutal. My hearing in my right ear
is so bad. How bad is you know? I usually
when I go to bed, I have like ear plugs.
I sleep during the day and there's noise and whatever,
so I sleep with ear plugs in. Yeah, my hearing
and my right ear is so bad. I don't need
to put an ear plug that it's I have my
own ear plug. So yeah, so what are they gonna do.
(37:42):
They gonna operator on your chop open your ear there. Yeah,
So in a few days from now, I gotta go
back to the specialist and he's got to go he's
gonna do a local anesthesia, a little numbing of the
ear drum, and then he's got to make an incision
with a tool like I find cool to make an incision,
not necessarily a like a knife for like a scalpular,
(38:05):
but um, you'll have to make an incision and go
behind the ear drum and then remove this. And I
asked him what it looked like and he showed me
it looked like a grain small micro trip chip And
I'm like that. He's like, yeah, usually it gets flushed out.
He's like, you're the second person in my career that
has ever had this happened to him. He's the first
(38:27):
person that had that person at the tube in the
ear for like ninety nine months. And I said, well,
I'm a little bit different, Like how long have you
had And I said since I was like one or two,
so thirty eight years. Actually it's like forty eight years.
But that's like getting your wisdom teeth that like seventy
you know, like I'm seven years old. Here cut my
wisdom teeth. Yeah, that's pretty wild. And so did they
(38:49):
say that? You know, of course they'll probably say, well,
here are the risk, but here you know you'll be
able to everything will be great, right, you'll be able
to hear everything, and you know you're hearing. Will they improve?
I can put other tubes in there and no, no no,
no other tubes. But obviously for me, that's the main
concern is like, okay, if that discomfort and pain goes away,
does the headache go away? Because like that's obviously prior
(39:10):
to number one. So you riddle me this, batman. Yes,
when you say you go into the the ear doctor there, yeah,
all right, was it the throat? Ear? What are they? Okay?
How come they decide why not just ear doctor? How
come they decided right, not only hear the throat? I
guess it's all connected because yeah, okay, all right, I'm
(39:32):
I'm I'm learning anyway. So um uh, when you say, hey,
this is my concern when I go to the ear doctors,
what do you do for liver? I work in radio, Okay,
I have headphones on twenty five hours a week blasting
in my ears. You and Tom are like infamous Tom Linney.
You guys are infamous for just juicing up the microphone
in the headsets. Well, the reason that I do that
(39:55):
and the reason Luney does that is we've been in
the business a long time, and the longer you're in radio,
you to hear. The voice is a musical instrument, and
you want to hear all of the music. It's like
going to to to watch a classical to Boston Pops
perform and you want to hear every instrument in the
Boston Pops as they're doing the thing. And so it's
(40:15):
the same same concept. But the longer we go, the
harder it gets, and you know, you have to turn
it up higher and higher and higher and higher, and
it's uh, it sucks. It sucks that. But a lot
of guys in radio that Rush Limb Boss had major
issues with his his although that there might be some
other reasons for that, but he's uh, he's had some
(40:37):
issues there. I've known people in the business that have
had all kinds of issues. I was I told my
I told my wife, I remember we got my dad
a hearing a couple of years ago at Costco. I
say that we'll be back here in a few years.
Off here, right back here, I'll get one of these
bad boys. Now. Did you have you ever had your
ears drained before? Uh? Yeah, when I was a kid. Yeah,
(40:59):
because when I had major issues, like I could not
hear when I was a kid. You know, I was
just like you know the signs of a kid. I
bang your head on the wall and all that, and
you can't really talk right. Yeah, I had all that
crap when I was a kid. I diated this Italian
girl back in the day and her mom straight from
from Sicily, would have this this treatment that she would
(41:20):
do as like a holistic treatment that she would perform
to clean ears. And what you do is you lay
on one side of your head and she'd stick this
like it looked like a giant iceberg, but it wasn't
it like a giant wick. She stuck this giant wick
inside of your ear and then cut a hole around
a styrofoam plastic plate, the starrofoam plate, and put the
(41:42):
plate through the wick. And at the top of the wick,
she'd light it on. Yeah yah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
oh yeah. I didn't really. Yeah, my my wife is
actually done. That's wich. That's a witch. That's a witch move.
I don't think it actually works, but not always feel better.
It does, man, because she took out so much on
can both ears and so that was one of the
(42:02):
things that my e n T and the neurologist told
me that. He said, hey, man, you need to stop
cleaning your ears with Q tips because yeah, yeah, yeah
they your doctors hate that. You know what I learned
little cheat code hydrogen peroxide. Yes, I didn't know that.
What the hell? Yeah, I I have here this, Yeah,
that's a right in my desk here because I have
(42:24):
such a bad hearing. I have a bottle of I
don't know why this is brown. Every bottle of hydrogen
peroxide is brown. The great thing about this is this
this stuff is so cheap hydrogen peroxide. But yeah, and
I have a little eye dropper. I don't know if
you can see that here, right, I have an eye dropper.
I thought we were on television, so no, no, I
(42:47):
was doing like a YouTube video. I was holding it
up see this right here. Yeah, So but any way, no, um, yeah,
I'll take after the show actually, and I'll lean my
head to the side and put the hydrogen peroxide in
and you can feel you probably just like me with
terrible hearing, so you can feel the gunk being burned
away in your ear. Yes, it's wild, it is wild.
(43:08):
It is crazy. I had no idea I mean that,
I mean just dries it out, so it sounds like
popcorn right in my ear. It sounds like popcorn. You
I feel like I'm at the movie theater and I'm
getting buttered popcorn. It kind of reminds me of like
when those on those YouTube videos or even like on Twitter,
when those young kids, those infants can't hear their death
(43:30):
and then they have the e n T come in
with these new like earphones or earpieces and they hear
for the first time. Their eyes like just bloon up,
like for the first time they can can hear the world.
And so that stuff is awesome. And sometimes they've got
things now with the vision. I know, my man blind
Scott there, he keeps telling me that it's close. They
(43:53):
they've got that technology. They're gonna be able to bring
people's visions back the ability to see how great would
that be? That they'd be awesome? So that's that's exactly
where I'm at it. It's um see, I'm just hopeful
that you know, because I don't want to go down
the road of an m R I, because m R
I with it. So this is not gonna be like
a meatball surgery and there's gonna be legit surgery. They're
gonna well, it's outpatient surgeries. Just what like the procedural
(44:16):
will take about twenty five minutes. That's not that long.
How much could they funk up in twenty minutes? A lot?
But let's see, the reason I was asking you that
was because if you've ever had your ears drained from
a doctor, you gotta be careful because if they use
cold water to shoot it into your ear and drain
it like you immediately go into vertigo. And for people
(44:37):
that don't or they do eat before the visit, you
can throw up. I've had that done where a doctor
would shoot cold water to my ear and immediately I
feel like I'm gonna spin out of control and black out. So, yeah,
you had a recent hearing test where they see what
you're hearing is in each year and all that he's
(44:58):
gonna do that after him done. Okay, all right, So
but i'd like, my hearing is so bad in my
right year, I wonder what it is, like, how how
much lower it is? Yeah? You know, yeah, I don't
know what the hearing scale is. I know visions right,
if you a perfect vision, I don't know what it
isn't hearing but interesting. I'll probably wait till the year
completely falls off and then I'll go in. It's usually
(45:20):
how that works. You don't how about this? Don't do
it in because everything that could go wrong this year
has gone wrong. So well, you actually started this last year.
You were ahead of your time gascon in was it
October late October of last year when you cursed me?
You jinxed me and sent me to the most painful
(45:43):
operation you can have the gall bladder remove. Thank you
for that, guest. I appreciate that very kind of you.
The problem, Yeah, well there we are in hasn't gotten better? Uh? Yeah? Yeah?
Well you you want to steal stuff from Target or
(46:03):
other stores? It's great, it's been a really good year,
so it's not. Why are you gonna be so selfish, gascount?
If you're you're like burning down cities and committing crime.
This has been a great year, right, Civil unrest if
you're an anarchist, this is like your dream come true.
It's like your wet dream if you're you're all about
that life. Know what a world? It is pretty wild? Yes,
(46:28):
it's it's interesting. May you, may you, it's it's like
that old thing, may you live in interesting times, which
was actually a curse, and we're living it out right
now right, that phrase may you live in interesting times?
Ex Actually I think it's a Chinese curse, which is
a way of saying, no, you don't want to live
in interesting times. You want to live in boring towns
when nothing goes on. That's where you want to live,
because everything's every day, it's every day something's on fire somewhere.
(46:52):
So I know you wanted to write a book, but
if you want to write a book about just this year,
you can easily rip that off. You can go threee
is on just oh yeah, but this this has been
been wild and there will be tons of books and movies.
You know, ten, fifteen, twenty years from now, kids and
I haven't been born yet, are gonna be indoctrinated with
(47:13):
movies about and oh the way, the country on the
brink and ripping band aids off the scars know that
kind of anyway. All right, Well, that should do it, right,
guest on, We've just fully bloviated, and I didn't even
get to the things I was planning on talking about.
(47:35):
You just hijacked the whole thing yet again, it says,
which is fine. I can talk about some of that
other stuff tomorrow. Tomorrow. It's another day. Tomorrow is another day.
He follow me on Cameo. Been kind of slow on
Cameo lately. What's up with that bad job by the
mostre cameo dot Com. Type my name in Ben Maller
(47:56):
personalized video message. You got a birthday bar, mid fo wedding.
You wanna rant about sports, whatever it might be? Within reason,
I'll pretty much do everything. I've worn dumb costumes on that,
I've worn mask, I've worn head for all kinds of
nonsense on those videos on Cameo. But I would love
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(48:18):
checked that out also on all the social media channels
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(48:41):
day today, and we will catch you next time in
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If you thought four hours a day, minutes a week
was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants of
the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He treats
crackheads in the Ghetto Cutter the same as the rich
(00:21):
pill poppers in the penthouse. The clearing House of Hot
takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with
Ben Maller starts right now, and we are in the
air everywhere coast the coast, actually there's no coast to coast,
it's border bordering beyond. As we alluviate the weekend away,
(00:43):
the weekend does begin. This the Friday Podcast, a guest
free podcast that David Gascon, who's in here, decided, you know,
we do not need any kind of person to talk to.
Usually on Fridays we bring somebody in here, Fred of ours.
I guess we ran out of friends apparently, But we
do this podcast eight days a week, as we said,
(01:05):
in four hours or not enough. So guest Con as
the executive producer of the Fifth Hour Podcast. So what's
the kind of walking me through the mindset here because
we know that content is king, just like Vince McMahon, right,
that's the key. W W E stas content is king,
right and all that stuff. So, uh, was this a
(01:27):
bold calculated decision by you to say, you know, we've
had a fair decent run of people that have come
in here, so no more you need to put your
foot down and say that's it. No, I don't think
it was that. I just think it was an opportunity
for us to, uh to mix up our our location
like a good picture, right, you want to go inside
and out, up and down the zone and then change
(01:48):
speeds a little bit. And I think we can do that,
especially since uh we got some wild times and wild times.
I don't know what you're talking about. It's just been
more than the same. Every day is the same, Some
crazy crap happens. The next day, another crazy thing happens.
Half the people think they're right, the other half think
they're right. Rince wash, repeat, but next But unlike in
(02:10):
our lifetimes, this is the first time that we've experienced
sports being canceled because athletes are canceling this. That's so
that's something March. I've seen sports canceled twice this year.
Let them lets I don't want to play, I'll go.
I don't care. Don't play. It doesn't affect my life
at all. In fact, I was telling I was telling
(02:30):
you or somebody else here that when I prepare for
the show and I'm getting ready, I'm looking for things
to talk about. I usually we I want to watch
the games and see if anything happens there that I
feel like it's, you know, good talker on radio. But
now if there's no games, I can get to put
the baby to bed early. I'm good. I mean that
makes my life actually easier, so I will actually have
(02:53):
an easier time preparing for my job if they don't play.
It's just fascinating a network. And I need you to
explain this to me because and you know this being
in a press box a Major League Baseball games, is
that typically sports writers, when they write a story on
the game of the day that they're at, they don't
(03:14):
write when the game ends. They're writing it inning by
inning or happening by happening, and then they make their
conclusions and their final assessments and their final judgments after
non innings is played. Why are we not doing that
when it comes to the social unrest that we're having
in today's world, like, why are we having jump to
(03:35):
conclusion before information, before all the events, before all the
questions are even answered, Because that is good for the ratings,
it's good for social media. You know. The answer I
don't multibillion dollar industries and teams that are ultimately gold
(03:57):
number one is to take care of yourself and the
bottom line. But in there, see, they have this neurosis
and professional sports where they think that this is the
path to salvation that they by by doing these actions
here and preaching because there's one thing I know you
want when you go watch a game, is you want
to be preached to and be told that you're racist
(04:20):
or you don't know what you know, you know what's
going on. So, uh, these these leaks and they know
they they have been mesmerized. My theory is they've been
mesmerized first of all by social media, which, as we
have talked about many times, is not reality, right, it's
not reality. It's the matrix. But it's so almighty and
(04:41):
all powerful in the eyes of these knitwits in positions
of power and sports that they think that is the
barometer and as we talked about several months ago, that
study that came out this year from I think it
was Pew that said that about ten of people on
UH like a platform like Twitter, are responsible for eight
(05:05):
of the content created by UH the adults in the
U s. It's a very small percentage of people that
are actually out there. So but that doesn't matter because
the people that run these sports leagues and the pr people,
UH My theory is they see the social media reaction,
what's trading was not trending, and they shut it down.
People just like this week the other day, the hockey
played in basketball didn't play, and I, you know, I
(05:26):
I liked it. I was watching the Bruins game. They
got smoked, they got pig roasted by the It was
like Hawaiian luau by the Tampa Bay Lightning, and I
was like, wow, it's good to watch a game. These
guys actually showed up to work. And then the mob
on social media, I can't believe you played? How dare you?
And so then, of course, because they reacted to the
mob and thinking that there are you know, millions of
(05:50):
people outraged that the hockey league was playing. Of course
it's not true, and so they genuflected to the online mob.
It is like the matrix, do you take the red
pill or the blue pill pill? And just keeps going up.
But that's that's why they're worried about social media cloud.
They think they're right. The great thing about this and
(06:13):
if you're if you're someone's like sitting on the outside,
you're outside the ring and you're watching, You're like, wow,
you're you're grading the fight, and you're like, wait a minute. Here,
these guys think they're winning the fight and they're actually
losing the fight, and they're not bright enough to figure
out that that's not reality. And and the reason I
say that, look at the ratings here, which is the
(06:35):
ultimate report card, the health check right the thermometer on
to see if you you've got an illness or something
like that. And it's not going well. The ratings are
continue to climb. The NBA's down since twelve is down,
but just this year, since they came back and we
were talking, oh man, my sports come back. Everyone's gonna
be watching. I mean, this is gonna be amazing, right.
(06:56):
People are so desperate for content. Uh, and we're mistaken.
We were mistaken. It's incorec that's incorrect. I mean people
have figured out, you know, they figured out they don't
need it, or those that love it are like, I'm
not gonna watch it because I don't need the you know,
repercussions of the social activists that have hijacked American sport.
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And the other thing about this guest guy, I'm getting
long winded here. I'm doing like a monologue all of
a sudden, but it's I'm just rambling. But here's the thing, Like,
how do you walk out of this? Like what's at
some point there will be an epiphany, there will be
a come to Jesus moment, and the people that run
sports gonna they're gonna crunch the numbers that being counters
(07:41):
will get in and they will realize, holy fuck, what
have we done? And then how do you get out
of it? Like do you welcome back to military and
the police and hugging is all? We were just kidding
about all that, and but everything is good now, Like
they're gonna have to be wide ranging and you know,
(08:02):
multifaceted changes. They're gonna have to because it because of
the damage that's being done right now in the landscape
of professional and college sports. To some degree awesome, but
mostly professional. You know what this makes me think of,
to use an analogy, is it makes me think of
of a gambler who's not really in tune with how
to gamble or how to pick teams that just tails
(08:24):
someone blindly. Because I do think some positives have come
out of this here and stuff in terms of I
think it was the Cults on Thursday registered every one
on their team to vote. So I think those things
are great. I think those things are important because obviously,
when you don't have the majority of people in the
(08:45):
United States voting in your general elections and your local elections,
like that's a problem because, like you said, we've talked
about this numerous times, like here in California, we got
idiots that are voting to increase our taxes on gas,
Like what the fund is wrong with people? But I've
that's important. I think obviously it's important to get people involved. Well,
but here's the thing on that even that is disingenuous.
(09:06):
And see that's what that is, people's one thing. But
the problem is is that now you're gonna have them
tail a political alliance just because the way No, I
mean that, that's why you know, I take all this
with a grand sault. Yeah, you know, voting is great.
Everyone should vote. It's wonderful. You should do it right,
(09:27):
you know whatever we have a right to. You can't
vote in every country and all that. I totally get
you should vote, But it's disingenuous because when I see
vote on the back of an NBA jersey, they're not
They don't want you to vote for Donald Trump. They
want you to vote for Joe Biden. They and they assume, See,
this is the problem I had with it. They assume
that this group think this kool aid think. If they
(09:50):
tell people their fan based to vote, that they're just
automatically gonna be blind sheep and lemmings and vote for
who they want to vote for. So it's implo II
that they get people to vote that no one would
possibly vote for Donald Trump. It's pretty that part of it.
I find amusing that they think, and maybe they're right.
Maybe they're right. People are just dumb. And you know,
(10:11):
it's as far as the gambling thing you were talking about,
it's the term is a square. That's what they call
in the gambling right in gambling world in Vegas. If
you're a square, you're average. You're unsophisticated, and you pretty
much make your decisions based on you're easily influenced by
manipulation by the media or celebrities who tell you something, Uh,
(10:32):
you know, I'm gonna win this fight. Well he said
he's gonna win the fight. I'm gonna better. Or you
have a hunch, better, better, bunch, right, that kind of thing.
And so the the bookmaker has the huge advantage. And
and they love the square. They love the square because
that's who you make your money on when you're running
(10:52):
a sports book. Is the average, the low information a
sports fan. But you know, they don't want if you're
a sharp and you actually have the information. They hate
people like that that actually have have the information and
get get all the you know, the latest info and
are fully educated and all. They don't like that. That's
because that's real power. And that's the problem I have
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is that you can you can register as many people
as you like, and I think that's really important. But
the other thing is that if you want to take
all of this an additional step forward is that not
only the people obviously that are in this country that
aren't working at the elite level like a professional athlete.
But you gotta get the professional athletes educated too. And
that's the other thing that's that's lost in all of
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this is that you can talk about, you know, voting
for for one political party or another. You can vote
for a governor, you can vote for a mayor, you
can vote for a city councilman. But if you have
no idea what's going on, and you're just blinding like
going political alliance like right down red or right down blue,
then and you're doing everybody a disservice. And it's sucking
(11:58):
brutal because yeah, I mean, how many of these guys
are are activated in that kind of a realm or
or even educated that kind of capacity either, you know,
I mean, you don't get guys that are are going
to Duke and Notre Dame and all these major universities
of Stanford to cal your USC that are like this
on on this level. You know, like the reality is
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these guys have spent a year maybe two years in
college and what are they doing. They're taking electives? You know. Well,
ab I mean the other thing about that, see, that's
always the Pandora's box, right, because get educated. Well, half
the people think if you're voting one way, you're educated.
The other half think, if you vote this way, you're educated.
You know what he's like, what has educated me? And
(12:41):
it means you vote for who I want you to
vote for. You know, it's is which is? But But
I mean, the thing about the manipulation is fascinating because
it really just depends, I guess, on what you watch.
I have a family member who watches CNN NonStop, and uh,
you know I I'll go over or sometimes in the
It's on all the time, and they react to everything,
(13:04):
and I'm I just have to bite my tongue because
I say, hey, there's a video on on the Internet
that disproves what it was just said there on Twitter.
I saw it the other day. I can't. You can't
say that because they're they're totally brainwashed by what they're watching,
the mesmerizing power of the boob tube. It's weird, and
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I don't know, I'm I'm. I feel like there's a
lot of people, even people that we work with, are
pretty much right down the middle. Like I, I don't
vote on one alliance or the other. I kind of
look at both ends of the spectrum and I go
with what's best for me and then what's best for
the community at the time. But yeah, I'm not stuck
and I'm not aligned to anybody because the reality is
(13:48):
these guys are all in it for themselves. And we
have people that go into these political offices that are
civil servants and then they come out wealthy as shit.
It's like, yeah, that is the easiest path. That you
don't make a lot as a politician, but you make
your money once you're done in politics. Although I think
some of these people, how long has Nancy Pelosi been
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in um DC politics? Yeah, so she must be making
money as she's doing politics. And what was the uh
I think we might have talked about it here. What
was the story? Somewhere along the way, there was a
guy that was, uh, like a secret service guy that
flew around with the vice president. Remember this story. I
(14:31):
don't know if I talked about it with you where
I heard it, but there's a legendary story. This guy
was like a secret service guy protecting either the vice
president or some high ranking senators, and he just listened
on the plane, the private planes when they were flying
around and they would discuss, you know, hey, we're gonna
(14:51):
build this big, massive you know, shopping center here, which
will increase property values in this kind of the chef
old part of town. You know, so and so we're
gonna give approval on that. And so he then took
that information and would invest and became like super wealthy
based on just listening to politicians discussed what they were
(15:14):
planning on doing, just having to have you know, his
ears open on the plane, because that's how that's how
much influence you as far as the economy is concerned,
and they have on this. Yeah, insider trading right now? Yeah, exactly, exactly,
just but now here's is it insider trading if it
wasn't directed to you and you're stepping over here, you know,
that's the whole. Yeah, I don't know. But see going
(15:35):
back to to your original question about about guests as
I think, yes, yes, no, I don't believe. I think
I like having people. I like to hang out. We
do the electric boogaloo and we hang out. We talked
for thirty minutes. I think that's fun. I loved having
all our my old radio friends like hacks On, Tony
Bruno and Mike North and Lee and all these people
come in here. I love that. Yeah, I guess I've
(15:57):
run out Jerry Callahan, I've run out of radio friends apparently,
although I did have somebody that I was thinking about
getting on. But I think you can get a big
name in here guests, gut you know, get a big
podcast number. We get we get a really big name
in here. The downloads to go through the roof man,
because a lot of people are podcast snobs and only
listen to interviews and they don't want to hear chatter.
(16:18):
They don't want to hear conversation like this, but they
want they do the hustle if they see a big
name on a podcast. But well, if that was the case,
then why don't you have guests on your on your
radio show Money through Friday? Because I was told early
on the the time and to call their driven show
(16:39):
and as a programmer, director told me so, Pett, the
reason I hired you is because you've you can do
a show. You don't need guests. That's a crutch. I
was like, all right, all right, whatever you say, and
uh yeah, and I don't don't give you. I don't.
I think guests are usually pretty bad. But I think
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on the podcast, I like once a week, I think
it's all right, and people I like or whatever, I
think it's a yeah. But but oftentimes my my problem,
this was my issue when I did day parts, like
during the day with guests, is I felt like a
lot of them were so guarded, like the people that
worked in sports, because they didn't want to say anything
to upset anyone that it was just a waste of
(17:21):
time you'd ask a question. I remember, for example, in
the early days of Fox Sports Radio, I think it
was about five years in, maybe a little later than that. Uh,
we had Mike Montgomery on former yeah, but he was
coaching the Golden State Warriors at the time and not
we had him every week. And not only was Mike
(17:41):
Montgomery on, he was terrible because the Warriors sucked, and
you know, we were on a big station in San
Francisco at the time and that was the Mike Montgomery
Show to get NBA information. But he didn't want to
say anything because you know, you don't want to get
in trouble, and the team was terrible, so she couldn't
talk about the team. So it just became an exercise
(18:03):
in futility. Now, one guy that was really good, although
not intentionally good, was Randy Moss. When Randy Moss played
for the Raiders, he had a deal with Fox Sports Radio.
He did not talk to any other media the Randy
Moss Show, which was on Chris Meyers Show, and I
happened to be on that show for a stretch, and
so we had Randy Moss on every week, and he
(18:25):
he boycotted the media in the Bay Area. He was
upset with some things that had been written, so he
wouldn't talk to any of the local reporters in in
the Bay Area, in San Francisco and all that, right,
So the only place he would talk was our show.
And I figured out after a couple of weeks with
Randy that he and we knew he wasn't happy. But
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if you asked him kind of a leading question, he
would take de bait like, hey, you know, Randy, at
the time, Michael vick was the big star for the Falcons, right,
and they hey, Randy, you know you know what thinking
about Michael Vick. You know, the Falcon's possibly going down,
And he would he would he would answer, and that
would create headlines because he would say, I love to
(19:08):
play with Michael VICKO. So that's that kind of thing. Well,
now that we're here, yes, we're here all united. What
brings us together? The podcast, that's what brings us together.
Amazing audio content. We do the hokey pokey. You put
your right foot in, you take your right foot out,
you put your right foot in, you shake it all about,
(19:30):
you do the hokey poke Are you doing the hokey pokey?
And you turn yourself around. That's what it's all about.
When I was a kid, I used to go to
the the local skating rink and they with my cousins
before they moved away the Isoplex and no I lived
in Orange. I live in the OC behind the Orange Curtain.
But I remember they used to do the hokey poke
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and I was a fat kid, and I didn't really
know how to skate that well, so I'd fall down
all the time and it was a big nightmare. So
always dreaded when they said it's we're gonna do the
hokey pokey. I always I tried to like waddle and
skate away so I wouldn't have to be out on
the rink when they were doing that, because I embarrassed myself.
I want to embarrass myself, fat kid falling down trying
to put his right foot out and I couldn't even
(20:11):
stay in on my left foot. So what are you
doing well? And now several years later and three hundred
pounds shed, you can do that now, yes, and not
eating and having you send me food porn while I'm
not eating. So it's quite a friend over there. What
were you getting to? You said, now that we're here,
I interrupted you for the hokey pot No, it was
a good segue because you mentioning our youth. And uh,
(20:33):
you know, obviously we're not having a guest on today.
But I figured I talked to you about something that
happened to me. Oh, make it at all about you.
West of the four or five is your box? I said,
west of the four or five, So if you have
your Bingo card out, check the box. No, it's I've
not brought that up at all. By the way, I
must acknowledge the fact that I heard a dirty rumor
that you actually drove your lazy ass into work earlier
(20:57):
this week. Yes, yes, ship, Yes, I did. I came
in there uh air conditioning, yes, yes, yes, So let
me explain what happened. So, uh, you know, I try
to I believe in the David Letterman philosophy David Letterman.
I was in line for Letterman's audience a couple of
(21:18):
times in uh in New York back you know, back
in the day before he became like Santa Claus when
he's on TV and all that. So that was a
big Letterman fan back from the you know, the early
days of Letterman when he's on late night and so um.
We were outside the Ed Sullivan Theater in Times Square
several times we got bumped from the audience, but I
got close. You know, they kind of put you in
the lobby and say you might you're in the stand
(21:40):
by audience, you know, that kind of thing. Never actually
got into the Letterman show, but I remember being in
the lobby and how cold it was, right it was
like the Arctic. I felt like an Eskimo, And so
I try to recreate that the mal I mentioned because
it's very hot where I live, and so I try
to keep it cool. But but then I woke up
(22:00):
and it was kind of warm, and I was like, well,
it might be the air condition to shut off or whatever.
And then wife went over checked it out, and uh no,
completely off. Dun Skies so I'm like, okay, you know
this is this is not good, but we'll get somebody out.
We'll have it fixed. And so UH called the the
(22:22):
neighborhood air conditioning guy. Very good, you know dude whose
lives close to us and fixes air conditions. And he
came over right away and let me work on this.
And so he half an hour he worked on it,
turned it on. Thing worked good to go. Thank you
very much, you know checks in the mail he left.
I get back. I'm in watching an NBA game. Ifact
the Clippers were playing the Mavericks. The game they scored
(22:44):
a hundred fifty four points before they voted not to
play anymore. Um, and so so I was I was
watching and then I realized it's getting hot in here.
It's getting hot in here, and then I was like,
what the what the hell? So I walked over the
air conditioner and I hit it broken again, but it
was too late for the guy to come back. So
then I'm like, okay, I got a couple of fans here.
I'll go old school, you know. I got a fan
(23:07):
behind me, I got a fan on the side. And
then I'm like, wait a minute, I can't have the
fans on what I'm doing the show because the microphone
we'll pick up the noise it will sound like I'm
in a hurricane Laura or something like that, right, So
I can't do that. Some then I'm like, crap, what
am I gonna do? It was like it was I
opened the window and it was still hot, you know,
the outside, and hadn't cooled down. But really, guess guy,
(23:30):
what I'm trying to tell you. At the very last minute,
I have a pretty long drive. So the last possible moment,
the eleventh hour, I have to decide am I going
or not? And I did it. I got in the
automobile and I drove in to the hallowed I Heart
(23:50):
Media Building, the home of the premier networks. Were legends
like George Norry, Rush Limball when he comes to l
A does his show, Sean Hannity people along those launch
big stars. And I went in there and uh and
did the show and survived. But I had to wear
the mask and all these all these gayzy rules in
the building and all that big pain of yeah, it's
(24:11):
the same studio that that everyone else works at. I
risked my life, guest, and I risked my life going
in there working with the unwashed like yourself did, did
your did your bosses tell you to stay at home?
Because I know the biggest reason why you haven't been
coming in is because your boss has told you to
stay at home. Yes, well, I am following company guidelines.
I know you don't, your rebel, your Maverick, not a
Dallas Maverick. But you don't follow the guidelines of management.
(24:35):
But I do. And so when they give me green light,
go go back, I mean, boom done. But until then,
the station wagon stays out the mallar you know, mallowmobile,
the station wagon, all that stays right out there. And
I know, but but I mean part of the thing
I was like, you also made like a room air conditioner,
you know, just for my my studio. You've been in
(24:55):
my studio. So I built this thing for w E
I when I was doing the show for Boss was
gifted to you. No, No, I paid for everything. Everything
here I built at me. I set it up in
Jake Warner, the Great Stay Awake with Jake. He came
in here, and you know I had done the wiring,
but I had a couple of wires that were wrong.
And so Stay Awake with Jake, my old guy. He
(25:15):
came in here, former dodging engineer and he put all
that together and now he was the engineer for the
Kings and the Clippers, and uh so we were were good.
Yeah now that but but it's very hot in here
with it especially with all this radio equipment. So if
the air conditions not on, it's uh, it's like you know,
sitting in a in a sauna. Yeah, that's uh. I
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think it's one of the I think I should get
a gold star gas gun for coming in. Don't you
think I should get a gold star for doing that?
I mean I could have just said I'm not going
to do the show. Uh. We we know people that
would say I'm not doing the show. But right, if
it's not perfect and uh, at least get you know,
pat on the head or something like that. I give
you a pat in the head. I don't want to
pat your bald head. Well it's not bald, it's thinning.
(26:04):
To see the hair I've got. I've got a version
of like not I'm not full Costanza. I got a
little bit of a call to sack going and maybe
like a mix like I'm I'm morphing into what Benjamin
Franklin looked like at the end, you know, like the
older Benjamin Franklin. Have you seen the gots or somebody said,
(26:27):
I think it was Roberto said, I have the Hogan. Yeah,
I think I got to hold you don't have the mustache.
So that's the only thing if I want to can
grow the mustache. Yeah, if you you know the drawings
of Benjamin Franklin, I think I'm starting to look a
little bit like that if my hair was longer, like
a mix between Franklin and Hogan. But I don't care.
(26:47):
I just wear hats and doesn't matter. I don't I
don't care. That's fine. Now, you did tell a little
bit of a white lie because your communes less than
forty miles from your house too. That is incorrect. That
is a falseho is a falsehood by guests earn and
for for you to be spreading false information, you know
what you are. The fake news media is what you are.
(27:08):
Guess got how dare you? As you know I live
in a super secret location many many miles away from
the Geico Fox Sports radio studio. Well, for the record,
your commute to the station is shorter than my commute
to the station, and I don't have the luxury of
working from home with ten thous dollars. Here we go.
(27:28):
Let me hold, do we do? We have a little
violent now so we can serenade. Guess God here, give
him a merit badge, way to go, just solid job
by you. Guess how do you do it? You're a
such a warrior, such a warrior. I mean you're on
the Mallard gravy train, so I mean you should show
(27:48):
up to work. Come on, I've made you. What is
the Mallard gravy train? Get me see celebrity status and
some of the brightest, all these right, truck drivers, people
that are hard working, people that live east of the
four oh five, people stocking grocery stores and all that.
You know, Uh, what's the other word I'm looking for
(28:11):
with you? The well, no, you're you're not. You're not elite.
The the high brow bull crap from you, right, the
I'm so sophisticated, I'm elitist, Lodi Dah, that kind of crap.
All right, you don't appreciate this, you don't appreciate this.
But I am. I am welcoming. I'm like a greeter
at Walmart. I'm shepherding your elitist snob, pompous ass, and
(28:37):
I'm allowing you to hang and and and and be
celebrated although you're actually hated by the blue collar worker. Really,
the backbone of the country is manual labor. It's not
it's not the people you hang out with, the white
collar crowd. It is the working class morning, noon, and night.
Those are the people that have their lunch pail the
(29:00):
show up, just like I have my lunch pail when
I do the show late at night. That's amazing because
if we're talking about lunch pails and work and blue
collar like I do most of the work on this
podcast for Ben Maller, that isn't like the the editing
of the booking, the audio, the commute, the stress that
(29:22):
I have to endure. Well, this is like off days
to just come in here for you yet service restaurant
because you didn't want to drive down the street in
Beverly Hills. All right. Yes, when you go to a
Broadway show, yes on Broadway, Yes, you look at the marquis. Yes.
(29:45):
And if the person's names above the marquis, that means
that they are the star of the show. Yes, And
if they are below the marquis. That means they are not.
Now is your name above or below the mark? Let's
do this little exercise. Go ahead, I'll wait. My name
(30:06):
is not on the market at all. So that's even worse.
It is even worse. That's even worse. It's just a
testament to who you are as a leader and lack
of team player. That's that's a little bit difference. Well,
I think I should be committed because I know you're
having a connection fit over there and west of the
four oh five, and you're convincing and bitching and all that. Um.
(30:30):
But before you continue having the outrage of a pamper
toddler denied a toy, let me remind you that when
we created this podcast back in the September, uh, you know,
it's been been about a year now. September I think
September nine is the first day that we launched the Sucker. Yeah.
So when I was putting the podcast together with management,
(30:51):
the great management at Fox Sports Radio and all that,
I was putting all this together. Um, I recall, if
I if I remember correctly, that you know, there were
people lined up around the damn building, protesters they wanted
to work on the on the show, and uh, and
(31:12):
I picked you so I should actually, I mean listen,
that's I could have gone with anyone, and I have this,
you have this unreasonable anger. I mean, there's so many
people that want to be a podcast producer and sidekick,
and you're arrogantly, you know, just unappreciative, spoiled, pample, pampered
the guy over there. It's a bad job by you.
(31:34):
I'd like to be well. As as many people have
pointed out on the email and whatnot, you were born
on third base, and uh, you don't realize how you
got there. Well, the the idea is there's no matter
where you were born, whether it's at home plate and
at first, second, earth, third, you still got a score.
(31:55):
That's the bottom line. So people can get this defeat
used to add it to oh you're holding me back.
Oh man, the man's holding me down. That's holding me down.
What was me? Yeah? I would never do that. You
see the door over there. You're free to walk out
at any point here, you are free to walk out,
(32:16):
and this podcast will continue. It will be no implosion,
none of that. I don't think you'll have fun. I
don't think you'll have as much fun oh please, I'll
get somebody east of the four oh five in here. Man.
But you don't like working with you don't like working
with yes guys? Oh? I love it? What are you
talking about? Love? I've never worked with a yes guy.
I'd like to work with you. My dream is to
(32:38):
wake up one day and have the the Bennett's slobbering
all over me like Dan Patrick has the Dandys. We'll
keep trying wicklick, suck, suck, just that's what it would
be great, keep trying. Ryan's pretty pretty good for you.
And then right Burtinger, Yeah, well, Burst Singer is great
because he works hard, he gets his stuff done and
all that stuff, and he he really doesn't give a
(32:58):
crap about anything else. You know, a lot of these
people get worked up over everything, but he does not.
Speaking of speaking of that, I need to get into
this story because I think you'll appreciate this. Right. Um,
When you were a kid, did you have tonsils removed? Yes?
You did? Okay, wisdom teeth too. I don't know about
the wisdom teeth. No, I don't remember. I remember having
(33:21):
the ice cream when I had my tonsils out there.
That was a big thing. That's good my mom sold
me because I was very scared as a child I
going to the hospital, and she said, don't worry, bet,
and you can eat as much as you want. And
you tell a fat kid he can eat as much
ice cream as you want, and that your eyes just
lighted up. That was the best thing my mom could
have possibly said. Yeah. Well, the reason why I asked
that and brought that up was this is that for
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the past six weeks, I've been I've been having headaches
and and I never get headaches. And I got him
in a centralized area and one of our coworkers here
actually had a really traumatic experience with headaches that call
under then. So yes, yes, So needless to say, I was,
you know, a little alarmed, and you know, you go
(34:04):
down the dark web of the internet and you start
self medicating. It ain't good because you can never look
at web md because you always you have A you
have cancer, and be you're gonna die, yes, and usually
it's B before A, but it doesn't matter. Yeah, but
it's like, what did you tell if you have a
cough all of a sudden, right, that's a problem. If
you have a call for a headache, you've got COVID
(34:25):
or or or you know, or something work. I mean,
so yeah, I mean there's like these indicators, like the
check engine light goes on. But so, so you had headaches.
You didn't mention this. Thanks for you know, I thought
we were friends. I guess we're not. I guess we
are really enemies here. And you didn't say, hey, I
got some headaches here. You know, I would of course
told you just take a couple of adulains. Shut up.
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That's what I would have said. That's what happens. You're
not in the market anyways. So I started having headaches.
But exactly at the same time of having the headaches
is my left ear started popping, like popping on the
red like when you debored a plane or you're eating
like a rice Crispy treat and it starts cracking. That's
exactly what's happened to me. So I'm just like, fuck,
(35:07):
you know, like it's in the one centralized area, my
ears popping. It's been going on for six weeks, and
the only time it wasn't around was either I want
to woke up early in the morning or I wanted
to exercise, And so you know, I went to like
a neurologist, and he still couldn't figure it out. And
then a couple of days ago, I went to an
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e n T and I told him a story about
when I was a kid. My dad actually told an
I n T, who couldn't diagnose me for something that
was wrong with me, that I couldn't hear. And so
the e n T like, what the hell are you
talking about? And he said, well, Dave can't can't hear.
He's not enunciating when he talks. So when I spoke,
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i'd mumbled my words, and sometimes I do it to
this day. Yes I hear that, because you do you
are mumbled. Yes, So sometimes I do that because when
I was a child, I couldn't hear. So when I
was like one or yeah, so when I was like
one or two years old, my dad told the e
n T. And the e n T was like, oh, ship,
you know, you taught me something new. Layman taught me something.
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So he put tubes in my ears. And typically the
ear tubes that you get as a kid last a
couple of months, sometimes maybe like a year. Ben I
went and saw an I n T a couple of
days ago because I thought that's exactly what it was.
I still had a tube in my ear and it
was causing this. Come to find out, I have a
(36:36):
tube still in my ear that's behind behind my ear drum.
That's like causing this major. Yeah, this major. By the way.
Guess fun fact this is we should change the name
of the podcast to the Tube Podcast because I had
as a child, I also had tubes in my ears.
Yeah you had them both. Yes, My my right ear
(36:58):
is my horrible ear. And um, that's the one that
I probably will lose my hearing and at some point,
but I've not been to the ear doctor in a
low My wife wants me to go because I I
can't go swimming if I put my head on. I
do go swimming, but I put my head under the water,
I have the whole I just get water just logged
(37:18):
in there. It's brutal. My hearing in my right ear
is so bad. How bad is you know? I usually
when I go to bed, I have like ear plugs.
I sleep during the day and there's noise and whatever,
so I sleep with ear plugs in. Yeah, my hearing
and my right ear is so bad. I don't need
to put an ear plug that it's I have my
own ear plug. So yeah, so what are they gonna do.
(37:42):
They gonna operator on your chop open your ear there. Yeah,
So in a few days from now, I gotta go
back to the specialist and he's got to go he's
gonna do a local anesthesia, a little numbing of the
ear drum, and then he's got to make an incision
with a tool like I find cool to make an incision,
not necessarily a like a knife for like a scalpular,
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but um, you'll have to make an incision and go
behind the ear drum and then remove this. And I
asked him what it looked like and he showed me
it looked like a grain small micro trip chip And
I'm like that. He's like, yeah, usually it gets flushed out.
He's like, you're the second person in my career that
has ever had this happened to him. He's the first
(38:27):
person that had that person at the tube in the
ear for like ninety nine months. And I said, well,
I'm a little bit different, Like how long have you
had And I said since I was like one or two,
so thirty eight years. Actually it's like forty eight years.
But that's like getting your wisdom teeth that like seventy
you know, like I'm seven years old. Here cut my
wisdom teeth. Yeah, that's pretty wild. And so did they
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say that? You know, of course they'll probably say, well,
here are the risk, but here you know you'll be
able to everything will be great, right, you'll be able
to hear everything, and you know you're hearing. Will they improve?
I can put other tubes in there and no, no no,
no other tubes. But obviously for me, that's the main
concern is like, okay, if that discomfort and pain goes away,
does the headache go away? Because like that's obviously prior
(39:10):
to number one. So you riddle me this, batman. Yes,
when you say you go into the the ear doctor there, yeah,
all right, was it the throat? Ear? What are they? Okay?
How come they decide why not just ear doctor? How
come they decided right, not only hear the throat? I
guess it's all connected because yeah, okay, all right, I'm
(39:32):
I'm I'm learning anyway. So um uh, when you say, hey,
this is my concern when I go to the ear doctors,
what do you do for liver? I work in radio, Okay,
I have headphones on twenty five hours a week blasting
in my ears. You and Tom are like infamous Tom Linney.
You guys are infamous for just juicing up the microphone
in the headsets. Well, the reason that I do that
(39:55):
and the reason Luney does that is we've been in
the business a long time, and the longer you're in radio,
you to hear. The voice is a musical instrument, and
you want to hear all of the music. It's like
going to to to watch a classical to Boston Pops
perform and you want to hear every instrument in the
Boston Pops as they're doing the thing. And so it's
(40:15):
the same same concept. But the longer we go, the
harder it gets, and you know, you have to turn
it up higher and higher and higher and higher, and
it's uh, it sucks. It sucks that. But a lot
of guys in radio that Rush Limb Boss had major
issues with his his although that there might be some
other reasons for that, but he's uh, he's had some
(40:37):
issues there. I've known people in the business that have
had all kinds of issues. I was I told my
I told my wife, I remember we got my dad
a hearing a couple of years ago at Costco. I
say that we'll be back here in a few years.
Off here, right back here, I'll get one of these
bad boys. Now. Did you have you ever had your
ears drained before? Uh? Yeah, when I was a kid. Yeah,
(40:59):
because when I had major issues, like I could not
hear when I was a kid. You know, I was
just like you know the signs of a kid. I
bang your head on the wall and all that, and
you can't really talk right. Yeah, I had all that
crap when I was a kid. I diated this Italian
girl back in the day and her mom straight from
from Sicily, would have this this treatment that she would
(41:20):
do as like a holistic treatment that she would perform
to clean ears. And what you do is you lay
on one side of your head and she'd stick this
like it looked like a giant iceberg, but it wasn't
it like a giant wick. She stuck this giant wick
inside of your ear and then cut a hole around
a styrofoam plastic plate, the starrofoam plate, and put the
(41:42):
plate through the wick. And at the top of the wick,
she'd light it on. Yeah yah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
oh yeah. I didn't really. Yeah, my my wife is
actually done. That's wich. That's a witch. That's a witch move.
I don't think it actually works, but not always feel better.
It does, man, because she took out so much on
can both ears and so that was one of the
(42:02):
things that my e n T and the neurologist told
me that. He said, hey, man, you need to stop
cleaning your ears with Q tips because yeah, yeah, yeah
they your doctors hate that. You know what I learned
little cheat code hydrogen peroxide. Yes, I didn't know that.
What the hell? Yeah, I I have here this, Yeah,
that's a right in my desk here because I have
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such a bad hearing. I have a bottle of I
don't know why this is brown. Every bottle of hydrogen
peroxide is brown. The great thing about this is this
this stuff is so cheap hydrogen peroxide. But yeah, and
I have a little eye dropper. I don't know if
you can see that here, right, I have an eye dropper.
I thought we were on television, so no, no, I
(42:47):
was doing like a YouTube video. I was holding it
up see this right here. Yeah, So but any way, no, um, yeah,
I'll take after the show actually, and I'll lean my
head to the side and put the hydrogen peroxide in
and you can feel you probably just like me with
terrible hearing, so you can feel the gunk being burned
away in your ear. Yes, it's wild, it is wild.
(43:08):
It is crazy. I had no idea I mean that,
I mean just dries it out, so it sounds like
popcorn right in my ear. It sounds like popcorn. You
I feel like I'm at the movie theater and I'm
getting buttered popcorn. It kind of reminds me of like
when those on those YouTube videos or even like on Twitter,
when those young kids, those infants can't hear their death
(43:30):
and then they have the e n T come in
with these new like earphones or earpieces and they hear
for the first time. Their eyes like just bloon up,
like for the first time they can can hear the world.
And so that stuff is awesome. And sometimes they've got
things now with the vision. I know, my man blind
Scott there, he keeps telling me that it's close. They
(43:53):
they've got that technology. They're gonna be able to bring
people's visions back the ability to see how great would
that be? That they'd be awesome? So that's that's exactly
where I'm at it. It's um see, I'm just hopeful
that you know, because I don't want to go down
the road of an m R I, because m R
I with it. So this is not gonna be like
a meatball surgery and there's gonna be legit surgery. They're
gonna well, it's outpatient surgeries. Just what like the procedural
(44:16):
will take about twenty five minutes. That's not that long.
How much could they funk up in twenty minutes? A lot?
But let's see, the reason I was asking you that
was because if you've ever had your ears drained from
a doctor, you gotta be careful because if they use
cold water to shoot it into your ear and drain
it like you immediately go into vertigo. And for people
(44:37):
that don't or they do eat before the visit, you
can throw up. I've had that done where a doctor
would shoot cold water to my ear and immediately I
feel like I'm gonna spin out of control and black out. So, yeah,
you had a recent hearing test where they see what
you're hearing is in each year and all that he's
(44:58):
gonna do that after him done. Okay, all right, So
but i'd like, my hearing is so bad in my
right year, I wonder what it is, like, how how
much lower it is? Yeah? You know, yeah, I don't
know what the hearing scale is. I know visions right,
if you a perfect vision, I don't know what it
isn't hearing but interesting. I'll probably wait till the year
completely falls off and then I'll go in. It's usually
(45:20):
how that works. You don't how about this? Don't do
it in because everything that could go wrong this year
has gone wrong. So well, you actually started this last year.
You were ahead of your time gascon in was it
October late October of last year when you cursed me?
You jinxed me and sent me to the most painful
(45:43):
operation you can have the gall bladder remove. Thank you
for that, guest. I appreciate that very kind of you.
The problem, Yeah, well there we are in hasn't gotten better? Uh? Yeah? Yeah?
Well you you want to steal stuff from Target or
(46:03):
other stores? It's great, it's been a really good year,
so it's not. Why are you gonna be so selfish, gascount?
If you're you're like burning down cities and committing crime.
This has been a great year, right, Civil unrest if
you're an anarchist, this is like your dream come true.
It's like your wet dream if you're you're all about
that life. Know what a world? It is pretty wild? Yes,
(46:28):
it's it's interesting. May you, may you, it's it's like
that old thing, may you live in interesting times, which
was actually a curse, and we're living it out right
now right, that phrase may you live in interesting times?
Ex Actually I think it's a Chinese curse, which is
a way of saying, no, you don't want to live
in interesting times. You want to live in boring towns
when nothing goes on. That's where you want to live,
because everything's every day, it's every day something's on fire somewhere.
(46:52):
So I know you wanted to write a book, but
if you want to write a book about just this year,
you can easily rip that off. You can go threee
is on just oh yeah, but this this has been
been wild and there will be tons of books and movies.
You know, ten, fifteen, twenty years from now, kids and
I haven't been born yet, are gonna be indoctrinated with
(47:13):
movies about and oh the way, the country on the
brink and ripping band aids off the scars know that
kind of anyway. All right, Well, that should do it, right,
guest on, We've just fully bloviated, and I didn't even
get to the things I was planning on talking about.
(47:35):
You just hijacked the whole thing yet again, it says,
which is fine. I can talk about some of that
other stuff tomorrow. Tomorrow. It's another day. Tomorrow is another day.
He follow me on Cameo. Been kind of slow on
Cameo lately. What's up with that bad job by the
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(47:56):
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You wanna rant about sports, whatever it might be? Within reason,
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(48:18):
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(48:41):
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