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March 21, 2021 • 52 mins

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But we are back at it again on a Sunday
and joined from west of the four oh five A
man that brings sand to the beach, David gas that

(01:34):
the whoa who. For the record, I would never bring
a out of state masseuse to the beach. You would not, Noah,
care how hot she is and how good she is
with her hands. I'll keep it all in house in
the beautiful state. So you're California. You're not like a
certain quarterback has been accused of in You're like a

(01:55):
pig in slop with that. Well listen, I mean, I'm
glad he blocked me. He couldn't could be perverted with me.
He blocked me. You know, I stood up for women, Gascoon,
these women, these masseusas, because I was ahead of the
game on that. I was onto that quarterback that this
guy is a little creepy. You are probably about a
hundred miles away from me and nowhere near me in

(02:17):
terms of phones and connectivity online. But I could see
and feel the smile on your face from ear to ear.
It was just magical for you. Well, you know, you
hate to see when certain things happened to people that
you know, just the downfall boy, perfect people. Well, everyone

(02:39):
loves a good comeback story. Now to Shaun Watson can
have a good comeback story, right, it might be all
maybe it's all made up, Gastcount. I've heard people. People
have emailed me, so it's all made up, And maybe
it is. You know that I do believe in due
process and that you are have a chance to defend yourself.
And these are not criminal matters at this point to
my knowledge. These are all civil matters. And it does
put the NFL and an interesting pickle because generally when

(03:02):
it comes to civil cases, they do not do not
suspend people. Well, and this will be a fascinating case
because you know exactly where this is heading because a
white owner in Robert Craft was accused of some misdoings
in Florida, and now a black quarterback in Houston is

(03:24):
accused of some things that are similar. Yeah, so you're
saying they have to not punish Deshaun Watson because he
did the Bob Kraft thing, and that's yeah. Yeah, I'll
be curious to see how this thing all plays. But
the NFL did send I mean they did set a precedent.
The NFL did set the president and that was actually
a criminal matter, though that was not a civil matter.
That was a criminal matter, right right, And this and

(03:46):
this isn't just some tailback or some strong safety that's
had a couple of good seasons. This is a This
is one of their their prominent figureheads as a quarterback
in the league. It's a quarterback driven league, and this
guy is one of their shot caller. So you know
he's he's under the spotlight for for bad reasons. It's unfortunate. Oh,

(04:07):
it's unfortunate. If he didn't do it. If he did it,
it's not unfortunate at all. No, no, but this just
this proves why the National Football League is a three
sixty five day a year conversation. This story just right
up the yin yang. This story will not stop. I mean,
every day. It's a broken faucet. Drip drip, drip, drip,
rip rip rip rip rip rip rip rip rip. I

(04:28):
love a good scandal, and I love a good But
if you're DeShawn Watson and you're in his position, are
you heading right to the bank and saying, let me
scratch a check and get this thing over with yeah
it hasn't. That horse left the barn at this point
he had the opportunity. And that's that initial post by
Deshaun Watson. If this goes the way it's it's headed
this right now. If this doesn't make it, you turn

(04:50):
this story. Yeah, that quote will haunt DeShawn Watson. Yeah, right,
he came out and you know, it seemed like the
proper thing to say it was one lawsuit, you know, massage,
and it didn't seem that bad, you know, not great,
but there are worse things that he has since been
accused of, Deshaun Watson. And and you know, it goes

(05:13):
back to we've talked about this a lot with apologies,
right they say you should never apologize as a public figure.
Right now, Why should you never apologize as a public figure,
because once you apologize, then other people say, well, wait
a minute, you should apologize for this. It opens up

(05:33):
Pandora's box. Right. It's it's odd too because you know
interpersonal relationship like you know friends, or you know, you
know your your wife or your if your woman, your husband, whatever. Um, yeah,
it's great to apologize, but as a public figure, when
you apologize, it they creates more stories, and then you

(05:58):
need to issue more apologies. And it's like Deshaun Watson
coming out saying, you know, I've always treated women properly.
Now there's a whole you know, a whole line of
women around the building that are like, no, you didn't, Yeah,
you know, and all you and all you needs one
for him to say I've never all he needs one

(06:20):
yeah and eighty And then when you apologize, also, eighty
percent of the people don't believe the apology, right, they
don't think you're being sincere, or they think you're doing
it because you got caught. And then like the other
don't give a crap. So what are you really accomplishing?
Not much? And but that now that wasn't really an
apology by Deshaun Watson, but it was more of a

(06:42):
like he was a defense. He was defending, but that
it is not, you know, true, it was a shakedown
and all that, well, it was a shakedown. It's a
hell of a shakedown. Is one of the great shakedowns
of our time. Yeah, I mean, just think too. When
the season ended and the contract talks were happening with
with ownership, with the general manager ear and with a
head coach, wasn't he tweeting or posting Instagram photos with

(07:04):
his his significant other on a boat. Yeah, this will
take you. This will take us until until kickoff in
week one. Well it will unless the Shawn plays ball
ponies up the money. Yeah right. I mean, these are

(07:26):
civil matters. You can make a civil case go away
out of court, hush hush settlement. That's it. I scratch
your back, you scratch my back, the mortification dies down,
that's it. Uh. And uh, of course it's got to
be a secret financial agreement, which stays secret unless you're
Donald Trump, and then it's no longer secret. Uh. And

(07:46):
then then that becomes public public record. And now do
you think he wants out of Houston? Now? Yeah, he'd
like to be traded to the orchids of Asia day Spot.
There's nowhere to hide, man, there's nowhere to hide. Yeah.
It's it is wild though, man, you know, I don't
know what's true or not. Even he will have a

(08:08):
chance to defend himself if these things actually go through
the legal channels. But it is just the preponderance of
the evidence for Deshaun Watson's in a civil suit. It's
only it's only it's not beyond a reasonable doubt. And
that's the problem because he was contacting these ladies, according
to the lawsuits on Instagram, was sliding into d M s.

(08:31):
You know, just normal random women who are massage therapists
and hey like a massage. And that's that's that was code.
That was we said the other night. It was code
language for I'd like to screw, But he didn't say that.
And when you when you open yourself up to discovery,
everything's on the table, text messages, cell phone conversations, Instagram, post, Twitter,

(08:55):
d M, like, everything's out there. So yeah, he's he's
as sensible to all of us. Now if Discovery comes
into play for a civil suit, yeah, he's he's got
some explaining to do. He's in. He's in the pickle jar.
He's in the pickle jar. Is what he's in because
of his pickle He's in the pickle jar. What happened? Well,
I'll be here all day, all right? We have mail back?

(09:18):
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how we do this. We'll start out with our our
guy Pierre from Springfield, mass the home of the Pro
Basketball Hall of Fame where Muffett McGraw is enshrined. Ben,
seeing that your co workers barely listen to your show,

(10:22):
it's safe to say that they don't listen to this podcast.
That being set, Pierre writes in who are some of
your fellow co workers that you enjoyed working with the most?
K K, Marcel, Julio Looney, Danny g People like, uh, well, yeah,

(10:44):
there's a lot of people that have enjoyed working with
it are no longer with Fox Sports Radio. I had
a really good relationship with Looney. We've had him on
the podcast. The was that the lowest rated podcast we've
had guest one that the whole woke that woke stuff
didn't really work from Looney Tunes. But I love Luny's
my favorite liberal friend. And we get along. We we

(11:04):
go back and forth fighting about the news of the day.
There even now, you know, Luoni will randomly send me
a zillion text message, isn't an all CounterPunch, And we'll
go back and forth. And I love KK and Greg
Bergman and so many people. Turk Stevens, who I worked with,
the old update guy from back in the days now
a gym teacher for many many years and had a

(11:27):
fond memory, fond memories with him. But yeah, there's a
lot of good people. Julio. I spent many a night
when when you know, single days with Julio Flores as
my producer, and we would get off the show and
we'd go over to Denny's in Sherman Oaks there and
watch the people come in that we're up all night,
the some of them working ladies of the night, the

(11:50):
pimps that would come in there, and it was wild,
wild and crazy, so fond memories of all those people.
God Greg in Iowa. Right, So he says, I work
in a place that coats and fabricates coded and raw rebar.
How well do either of you think you could shake

(12:10):
out a bundle of rebar? Now? Have you seen this?
He sent a video, but I didn't send this to you,
guess gun. But the the rebar? You know what rebar is, right,
you're familiar with Could you could you? Could you do
this with rebar? There's there's no chance, right, there's that's
a skill that that I I do not possess. And

(12:32):
I'm pretty sure you growing up west of the four
oh five, do not have that skill. I need video
and I need to see all right, hold on a second,
I'll get you the video. My god, hear me. Let
me copy this and see if it'll I'll send it
to you right now. We're doing this live on the
podcast you listen to our live live coverage, live coverage.
We'd like to alert all the affiliates down the line

(12:54):
here that we are doing this. We can we can
do this like a certain media or news outlet were
I'm I'm working on the rebar and it's just a
tight shot of me doing that, and then behind scenes
footage is like there's other guys that are obviously working
on it to help me, help me along the way, right,
Like that that weather reporter that said that he was

(13:15):
he was on a boat or he was like knee
deep in weather or in a in a flood and
there's someone walking by and he was it was only
up to his ankles. Really yeah, yeah, yeah, it's all
about the presentation, not reality. It's it's illusion. All of
it is illusion. All right, So I sent it to you.
Yeah there's no chance. Oh yeah, you can't do that.
Oh yeah, I could definitely. You know what this is

(13:38):
that you could not do. You know what this is,
Ben Mallory, This is this is heavy ropes. These are
heavy ropes that are used in the gym. Absolutely I
can do this. Oh yeah, put me out there hard
talk talk you can't walk the walk in the chance guarantee.
I can definitely do that. Put money on it. Um,
how are we gonna get rebar? Who who do we know?

(14:00):
Anybody around you? B bar? That we can citical crap side. Yeah,
it's every ten feet in Wilm Carson. I mean my God,
anywhere anywhere you go there boom done. Problem solved all right.
Russell Russell in Kansas says, can you find anyone else

(14:23):
to do the podcast with? I'm over Gagon and his
pompous ways. I almost think locally docally do might be better. Wow.
As a shocker who wrote that Russell and Kansas, I've
never heard of her? Wow? Really? Yeah? This is he
thinks that Brian Finley, it was a stage five clinger,

(14:47):
would be better than you. Russell Russell's an idiot. Be
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(15:08):
off every of the week, then they can find people
into the podcast. Stay tuned. R J in Sane and Tonio.
He says, do y'all believe in the paranormal? And if
you do, have you had any experience? I feel like
we've been asked this question before r J on this podcast,
or at least maybe on the radio. But yeah, we

(15:31):
both we both think there's something out there the paranormal. Yeah,
advanced civilizations absolutely, because everything on this planet came from
somebody somewhere else, right, Everything kind of bounces around and
all that, So it would be logical to think somewhere
out in the cosmos there are I don't know if
it's a parallel universe or different dimensions, but ever you

(15:53):
want to describe it. But yeah, and I have seen
There's one thing I saw that that in the days
with were drones, I saw these like five uh orbs,
They were orbs. I was on a hike in l
A and I saw some orbs that I I've never
seen before or since that I'm convinced for something from
another world. But I don't know. You always try to

(16:15):
take pictures and video and they never come out right.
Chris and Iowa writes, and he says, what have you
set up a pre order waiting list for the book
you want to write and you charge people five to
ten dollars to be on it. Would that motivate you
to start writing it? Then you take the book and
all the Mallard Militia pre orders to the publishers and bam,

(16:38):
done deal. Chris says, or the money could help you
self published the book and you can add a bit
to the show once a month. How's the damn book
coming along? Accountability and he says he will put his
the first ten dollars in. Chris, that's a great idea, Um,
and that's obviously something I will consider. I am in talks. Um.

(16:59):
This a very slow process, very long process. But I
have been in talks with someone who is interested in
helping with that project and is in negotiations with a
couple of the publishing houses. So UM, it's really a
case of once that is green lighted. If that gets
green lighted, then it will go. If not, the self

(17:21):
publishing thing is an option that's on the table. But
my experience with the Mallamstia and I love the Mallem Militia,
but in the past tried to hawk T shirts and
things like that. Um, when money is involved, the Mallem
Militia generally kind of clams up a little bit. But
but I'm glad Chris, you're willing to spend spend the money,
so I appreciate that. Let's see, uh, let's see page

(17:45):
down here, page down this is from I'm a pilot.
I'm a I believe this is from I'm a part Yes,
it is all right. Uh, he says, Uh, what is
your take on NBA top shot crypto collectibles, this fad?
And why would anyone pay for something that anyone can

(18:07):
easily view on YouTube and other media? Do you either,
either of you guys? Uh? Seeing that this being trying
to to duplicate this rather as the NBA. Do you
think we're gonna gonna duplicate this like crypto? He's saying,
And will this die on the line in a few
years or boom? I need your hot take. Well, he's

(18:28):
talking about non fungible tokens. Is what these things are
called n f t s. We have discussed this. I
did a monologue about it. Thanks for listening. I'm a
pilot through the monologue at him pointing it out. I
love I'm a pie. I wear that hat. That's a
good looking hattie, got me that m hat solid. But no,
I I am. I guess I'm a pilot kind of

(18:50):
around our age, I believe so. I think we're all
of the same age, we all grew up the same way.
You think this is bullshit? Um, and I do. I
keep in mind, I thought bitcoin is bullshit. It's not.
I'll take the l on that, but it just doesn't
make any sense. It's why own something that you don't

(19:10):
really own? You? To me, it would make sense if
you bought a highlight and every time ESPN, Fox, NBC,
or CBS played the highlight you got paid five cents.
That would make sense to me. Just pictures right when
you have to. When you use pictures that are copyrighted,

(19:30):
those are protected. So yeah, yeah, I used to. When
I worked with Yahoo, I had access and also Fox
Sports dot Com I had access to the Getty Images
amazing greatest. The Getty Images are just outstanding. But the
subscription prices large, very very expensive, and there's tears to it,
like I only had access to a small part of it.

(19:54):
But their work is amazing. And yeah, so to answer
your question, I'm a pilot. Yeah, if it was like that,
I mean it, but it just doesn't make sense to me.
And I think there's I don't understand. I know it's
a to me, it's a fad, But if a fat
sticks around long enough, uh, it becomes a trend and

(20:15):
then we're we're good to go. But it's not It's
not for me, so all right, I'm a pilot. Also
says that's a Dallas guy. It is tough seeing Jerry
Jones willing to die on his Dak Prescott terrible contract mountains.
Have we reached the pinnacle of contract money, especially after
such a downturn in revenue over the last year in

(20:36):
every sport? And he says, it's not about Patrick Maholmes,
Dak Prescott, Mike Trout, Garrett cole, A Mookie Bets, Janice
Adent to Coombo and all that. And he says, are
we really in a society now where someone is worth
more than the gross domestic product of a country? And

(20:59):
then he needs He says, there's a to vollu? Is
that the name of it? A small I put a
question mark at the end of it. A small country
in the in the Pacific, about halfway between Hawaii and
Australia and has a gross domestic product of forty seven million.
Where do you see the endpoint? Or will we ever

(21:20):
see a hundred million a year athlete? Haven't salaries gotten
a bit out of hand? Well, inflation comes into play.
Everything constable the way I look at it, I'm a pilot.
I don't I don't have a I don't like it,
but I don't have a problem with it because I
don't want someone putting a cap on how much I
can make. And the sports leagues are making money so

(21:44):
they can afford to pay Mahomes and Dak Prescott. And
you know, the argument can be made, as much as
I despise Lebron James, to the value of that business,
Lebron James should be paid a hundred million dollars a
year in terms of value added to that professional operation.
So there there at some point you would assume there's

(22:05):
going to be a waterloo moment. It clearly is not
the pandemic. It's not the pandemic. These these are just
television shows. You've got to look at professional sports as
television shows. Fans are not important. We're not We love
sports and all that, and I'll watch it till the
day I die. But we learned during the apocalypse of

(22:29):
the show goes on without any fans in the stadiums
and the arenas and the ballparks. It's all about TV revenue.
They could afford to pay everyone. They lost money, they
didn't make as much money because that's that's extra gravy.
That's extra frosting on the cake, the the hot dogs,
the peanuts, the nachos, the tickets and and all that.
But everything else, the TV money, the merchandise, they all

(22:51):
got that. So anyway, I bet I'm a pilot flying
all over the place. He must see some amazing like
i've there's other islands out between us, the US and Hawaii, right,
aren't there some places out there in the middle. I
wonder if he's been a Guam's been to Guama. No, never,

(23:12):
but I'd be I'd be fastened to see if there
was a chance to jump on ourn extra seat, that
he might have a one. Here we go, he jump
on seven, seven and seven on the weed man. You
can get your hand out. Your hand out. Now, every
piloting is a copilot. You know that's fine. My guy,
Victor Brick, the Great Victor Brick Jacob's l a radio legend,

(23:33):
got his start in Guamp, did he really? Yeah? He
was working, he was he was traveling. He's like a
bohemian after you grew up in New York, and he
was traveling around and he ended up in Guam and
he was working at a restaurant, we should get Vic.
Promise that when we record these podcasts, Vic is usually working,
so we can't get him on. Unfortunately, he'd be fun

(23:54):
to have on. Yeah, but Vic has some amazing street
but he lived in Guam. He was working at a
restaurant and some guy came in from the deo station
and they struck up a conversation on paraphrase. I'm probably
getting this all wrong, but as I remember Vick telling
me the story, he was working at a restaurant in
Guam and this guy that ran the radio station came
in and like Vic, and you know, give him an

(24:14):
opportunity to work, and that led to a career that
has had thirty forty years probably forty years now in sports,
television and radio for Vic, the Brick Jacobs, good dude
for love. I believe this is from Michael. He recommended
a couple of guests ideas for future podcasts. He wants

(24:36):
to have us have Clay Travis on r J Bell
as well, he says, and it's this main cabin master crew. Well,
r J would be impossible, I think because the time
that would record this. Uh maybe I think maybe early
on we could do it. Clay I don't know as

(24:58):
Clay do these kind of things. I don't know Clay
does these kind of thing. Clay's got his own operation
without kick. I don't know if he would sully himself
to come down to hang out with guys like us,
but we I'd love to put Clay on. Clay's uh
play has done a great job with his his product,
and people love Clay. He's got a huge following and
he's actually stood up A lot of people have tried
to get Clay taken off the radio, and he's been

(25:21):
able to fight back. And I credit that to him
because it's not easy when you're in the eye of
the storm, and he's been in the eye of the
storm over the last you know, last but four or
five years or so. But yeah, we can effort that.
Guess would you what about what about Dave Portnoy? What

(25:42):
if we had him on? I'd love to put Portnoy on.
I don't think he would do it, but I'd love
to put him on. You don't think you were doing yeah,
because again he's got his own thing at barstool and
all that. But if he would, I mean, but you know,
put a request in. Yeah, well put him I'd love
to talk to Portnoy. Yeah, I of the another guy
that's pushed back against the the localati that are out

(26:06):
there and stood up to him. And absolutely, yeah, there's
a guy that took it to the next levels. Talk
about monetizing your product. Holy crap. Dave from Mill Valley,
California rights and he says Eddie Garcia used to say
downloading the podcast and noise management. More recently, he says
downloading the podcast upsets the corporate guys. So my question

(26:27):
to you, Ben is how does downloading the podcast upset
the corporate guys and why do we want to upset them?
All right, well, day, that's a great question. That the
reason it upsets the corporate guys is because there is
a pecking order in radio. In any job, there's a
pecking order, right, and and it upsets the apple cart,

(26:50):
if you will. There's a hierarchy. And when our little
dopey overnight show gets more downloads than some of the
big powerful daytime shows, it messes up the food chain. Okay,
it messes up It's not that's not the way it's
supposed to work. There's there's a social pyramid, and we
know where we are on that social pyramid, and management

(27:12):
knows where we are in that social pyramid. So it
does upset that. But I would say it upsets them
in a good way. Right. They're like, oh, why are
people I've heard this from, not from the bosses we
have now but in the past. Why are people downloading this?
You know, I don't understand. You know. I was like,
we've got our former athlete who's on during the day.
Why are people not downloading that guy? So it does

(27:34):
upset but that's the answer, not that. Steve oh from
Florida Rights, and he says, Ben and anybody but Gagon,
I've noticed a lot of foul language being picked up
on the microphones during NBA games. Do you think the
broadcast partners are going to press teams to allow fans
into the stadiums simply to drown out all of the

(27:55):
candid conversations. He says, uh, No, they're gonna want fans
in the arenas because it's money, straight cash, homie. It's
all about that money, boss. And then he says, also,
if you could master one musical instrument, what would it be?

(28:15):
What would it be? Well, back in my younger days,
when I was a swinging bachelor. If you had the
ability to play a guitar, you were a made man
with the ladies, right, if you had the skill with
the guitar. Man, Now, I don't know, I give you
a play the I have, you know, inherited a piano
guest gun. I don't know how I I My mom

(28:38):
tried to teach me how to play, and I knew
a few songs when I was a kid. But I
have no idea A nice skill to have play the piano.
That's the that's the one instrument I'd love to master. Piano. Piano. Well,
I now own a piano guestcon. It's classy and it
goes with any kind of music, any kind of music. Yes, yeah,

(29:00):
you can listen to the greats of Mozart and all
that from back in the day up until now. And yeah, alright.
Kevin from Rockford, Illinois rights and he says Mr Mallard
and Mr Gascon. I'm a huge Duke apologist, and I
am always excited for March Madness. Even though Duke won't
be in the tournament this year, I still would normally

(29:22):
watch just because I love college basketball. This year, however,
I just can't get into it. I'm not sure if
it's the political climate of our country or because of COVID.
Who knows. It's just weird, Kevin writes. He says that
I would all of a sudden not be into something

(29:42):
after watching it for twenty years. Same goes for the NBA.
Do you guys feel the same way or is it
just me? No, He's he's got a point. I mean,
not us obviously, because we work in the industry. We
can't afford to do that. But I've had a lot
of friends and a lot of family members that have
said the exact same thing, just the way that things
have been forced on them or presented. I don't have

(30:03):
a problem. I know you dealt with the pregame bullshit
that's happened certain leagues. But for them to force things
or or make it a big spectacle about some of
the politicalization of of of games and events and everything
surrounding it. Yeah, people are turned off by it. They
want to see that for what it is, as opposed
to anything else that they could find on on news

(30:23):
networks and and other mainstream outlets. Well. And also remember
that your taste change right when you get older. Um,
your I know your taste, budge change, they they shrink, right,
isn't that what they say that they they they're less
sensitive and you know, so that things you're less sensitive

(30:45):
to to, uh, salty and sweet and the bitter and
sour and all that you're probably tolerant to. Right, you're
probably less tolerant to put up with ship. Oh yeah
you're talking about not yeah, yeah, you just like I'm
tired of the bull ship. Yeah. That's one of the
great things about you know, if we're if we're all
blessed enough to live be the old guy, then we
can be the bitter old guy. And when you're young,

(31:07):
you don't know, like my grandfather was, my mom's dad
was that way, just like you know, I just wouldn't
put up with any of the bullshit, you know. The
only well why do people get like that? Well, life
turns you into that, right, you live long enough, you
turned into that. That's just what happens. So anyway, Uh, yeah,
but I I I love my job, and I like

(31:29):
the NBA, and I talked about the NBA. I don't
talk about as much I watched games. I don't watch
as many games. College basketball has been very difficult for
me to get into I've I've had to force myself
as a John R. Woodn't Award voter to get into it,
to watch the players on the watch list. In fact,
I have to fill out my ballot today on Sunday.
The deadline is on Monday to vote for the John R.

(31:51):
Wooden Awards. So I have spent the weekend watching. By
the time you hear this, watching one last time player
to see if they can sway my vote for the
Wooden Award. Uh. Also Kevin writes, and he says, have
you guys ever heard of radio legend Man Cow Mueller?

(32:12):
Have you ever heard of Man Cow? No? You have
not know who is he? Oh, he's a He's a
radio legend from He's been around for a million million years.
We not a million years. But he Remember Stern got
into some battles with him, as I remember, I'm gonna
lick at this, shut up now. Yeah, they were Howard

(32:33):
Stern got into a bunch of radio battles. But he
in the nineties. You were around in the nineties, it
was Howard Stern versus Man Cow. That was like that
was like a tenure battle. I think between those two.
That's the only I've never heard Man cow Sure, that's
how I know. I've heard clips that Stern would play. Yeah,

(32:55):
I'm not. I'm looking at his picture. Yeah, now I
know who he is. I didn't know his name. It's
one of the great radio wars of our time. You
think about great radio battles Man cal versus Stern legend.
We don't really have that in the sports world, do
we radio battles? Yeah? Are you doing in certain citizent

(33:16):
on Boston? You've got w e I versus the Sports Hub.
Is w e I still around. That's a great station,
not as great as when I worked there, but it's
it's an I iconic station. W e I. It used
to be, it used to be. Well, I agree, you
are officially a w e I historian. You have become
what you love, that's right. I'm part of the w

(33:37):
e I Alumni Association. I am. I admit that very much. So.
I'm also part of the NBC Sports Network Alumni Association.
But that whole networks going off the air, So turning
that whole thing completely off the air. But no, you
have a lot of in passionate sports cities with multiple
sports radio stations. You have sports radio awards, New York.

(33:59):
You have the e s P in affiliate Michael Cabe
versus Craig Carton on w f A N. That's a
radio war. Philadelphia has got several all sports stations. Dallas
the same thing in Dallas, the ticket. You don't have that.
mL A. You definitely don't have that here. Yeah, I
mean there's two sports stations, but there's no real sports
battle that goes on, not a lot of sports talk

(34:19):
in fact, on one of these stations. So yeah, but
I would argue that that would be better. I had
a boss, um, the great Mike Thompson, who loved radio battles,
and and he was right. I mean, it makes everyone.
Everyone enjoys a good radio battle, even if you're not
in the business, because you've got good guys versus bad guys.

(34:42):
You picked your team and they're harmless fund radio battles.
So but yeah, alright, Caleb from Meadville, Pennsylvania's is penning Gascon.
What are your first experiences speaking alive over the ra
you what were they like? He says, So, were you
nervous or have you always been comfortable being behind the microphone? Well,

(35:07):
I'll go first. No, I was very, very nervous, had
Mike fright stage fright flop, sweat all of that, and
it took a fair amount of time for me to
completely get over that. I'm pretty much over it now,
but uh, you know, so, I I do TV every
once so while I'm still not used to like the
TV experience, even I've done all this, radio, like TV

(35:29):
is different, so I still still have the the heb
gbs a little bit when I do TV every once
in a while. But radio, I don't like hearing the
sound of my voice. And I've told the story about
my first show and my first experiences. It was very uncomfortable,
very awkward. But I started as a reporter, so I
did a lot of stuff on the phone where I'd
call in from Dodger Stadium or the Forum or somewhere

(35:52):
like that. So what about you guess, yeah, I was.
I was super nervous to start. It's easier for me
to to do radio or TV if I'm conversing with somebody,
like if I'm talking to you in a booth or
or on the radio, It's way easier than doing it solo.
And the one part that freak me out was when
I came to the network from San Diego was that

(36:13):
you go from market seventeen to market too. And sometimes
I don't know if you ever did this, but i'd
mind funk myself where I thought, like, wow, I'm going
to a national platform. There's now thousands of people listening
to me exactly this time, as opposed to hundreds in
little old San Diego, so that that funked with me
a little bit. Side Oddly enough, I turn off all

(36:34):
the music and I turn off my radio. I dropped
my microphone, uh earbuds when I'm giving updates because I
want to. I don't want to think about anything else.
I just look at the clock and I go with
what I need to report. You turn your headphones down, Yeah,
turn everything off because the music bed. The music bed
would funk with me because when the music bed would

(36:55):
go from slow to fast, that means time's winding down,
so and it would cause me to hurry my words,
and then at times I'd either trip or mumble, and
then it would sound like shit. So I turned the
microphone earbuds off. Yeah that's interesting. No, No, I turned
my headphones all the way up every syllable and I

(37:17):
could get another studio and I could hear your headphones. Yeah,
I didn't start out like that. I know it happens
to almost everyone, and I guess not you, but so
many people on radio limball like hearing problems. You and
Tom have the Tom Looney. Yeah, I'm gonna need a
hearing it. I fully admit it's it's a workplace injury

(37:39):
caused by radio and headphones. Yeah. Steve Mason had some
some issues with the hearing to our old colleague at
Fox Sports Radio is at ESPN, but he had some
issues with the the hearing back in the day. Uh,
it does it does happen? All right? Who else do we?
Let's see page down here. Emmett, the blind Seahawk fan
in Olympia Washin says, so your staff as corporate, who

(38:04):
is your favorite fill in guy to work with both
the show keep trying Ryan, Chris Perfect or the buff
buck a U? So you want me to pick favorites? Emmett?
How dare you? How dare you? I get along with
all those guys. I have a good conversations about the
Detroit Lions with Chris Perfect. Uh. I also enjoy keep

(38:28):
trying Ryan of the fact that he got the company
locked out of the Twitter account. I think that's a
tremendous story. That's right up there with Bob Gara turning
off the entire network. Uh keep trying run because he
kept trying the password, the wrong password. That was a
great nickname and uh and both the show bow when

(38:49):
he attempted to sing and put no energy into it.
I still am amazed that someone could do that on
a radio show and not even try. But he did.
I give him credit for that. Most people would be like,
I gotta try, got it sound good? Both do to
Do to Do not trying at all. And buckaroo I
please come on, we know Buckaroosa. Yeah he's trouble. He's trouble.

(39:14):
I just want to point that out, all right. Uh
M At the blind Stack, fan also says Uh says,
this is for both of you. What is your favorite
breakfast food? Man, I'm gonna go French toast, although toast,
although with with the with the way that Arnie Spanier
has treated us over the last couple of years, pancakes

(39:35):
and for yourself, waffles man are what he sends from
Vermont is just it's so fucking good, it's so amazing.
But yeah, French toast for me because you can just
put decks of butter all over the French toast. Well,
you can put butter on pancakes too, so it doesn't
really at work. But properly made a stack of pancakes

(39:59):
with proper It's all about ratio, proper ratio of syrup
and butter. What more do you need? All right, so
you don't drown your Your pancakes are waffles. That's that's
good to here. That was a great My My wife
does her. She loves breakfast food. I don't really like
breakfast food. I didn't grow up in a house that
ate breakfast. We were we were nocturnal people, so we

(40:20):
went skipped to lunch mostly and the dinner and all that.
So would you ever eat breakfast for dinner? Uh? Well,
I've been to like Roscoe's chicken and waffles, so I've
done that. It's good. It's good, man, I have been
there in a while. You've been to Roscoe's staple in
southern California? Now soul food, because there's the one in
North Hollywood, right, and then the one in Long Beach

(40:43):
just closest to me, the one in Pasadena. Yeah, there's
one in Hollywood, that's right. Yeah, I went to the
one I used to live over near where the is
that shoppingston right across from Park Labre. What is that
called their um the grove? Is that what it's called
the grove? The growth? That's right. Yeah, I used to

(41:04):
live over there in that area, and there was a
little south of there there was a Roscoe's And I
actually went with Jason Smith and Jake Warner and we
were there and Lamar Odom, who at the time was
suspended from the Clippers for weed. Uh. He was enjoying
a nice meal and I knew Lamar and it was

(41:25):
very awkward because Lamar was like he kind of like
you know some It was like a weird It was
a weird situation. Yeah, all right, Uh, who is next here?
This is from Kent in Colorado doing the mail bag.
He says, a few possible Friday guests you might consider

(41:45):
would be your former colleague Chris Myers. I could because
they now retired, Verne Lundquiz, Brent Musburger and as well. Well, yeah,
I'd love to have any of those guys on. We're
gonna get as Meyers on at some point. Verne Lundquist,
I don't know how to track him down. You have
a number for Verne Lundquist. He would be great to

(42:06):
have on. Yeah, that'll take that'll take some work. I
have to figure that out. Are you willing to put
the effort in. Yeah? Vern would be a great guests.
He's the he's the star of Happy Gilmore too. It
was it was also in that if you guys remember that. Yeah,
Vern's awesome. And I've heard Verne, you know, in interviews
in the past, and he's pretty good guest, good storyteller always.

(42:27):
You would imagine being a broadcaster all those years, and
I think of Verne. When I think of Verne, I really,
to me think of SEC football. Yeah, that's what I
think of. And also the n c A tournament called
some big games in the tournament as well. All Right,
A couple of my local favorites, Kent says, are Mark Johnson,
he's the voice of the Colorado Buffaloes. We haven't had

(42:50):
good luck with play by play guests. We try to
get the Viking guy on. We tried to get the
Broncos guy on. Hadn't worked out for us, right, Yeah,
these guys don't do it, And also says the stadium
anounce or he wouldn't would you want to have on
the stadium announcer from Colorado? Oh? He I think he
does the p A for international airport too, right, really?

(43:10):
I think so? That would be interesting. Yeah, I think
he's the voice guy for The white zone is for
loading and unloading only, the blue zone is for handicap parking,
the red zone is for emergency vehicles. That would be
a great job doing the voiceover stuff for an airport. Yeah,

(43:31):
that'd be great. That doesn't really change though, right, I
mean the voiceover stuff and just that's it. Yeah, alright,
let's see here. Uh, he says, I assume Kent says,
you've heard this is an email He's said, I assume
you've heard the story of Joseph Kennedy getting stock tips
from the shoeshine boy and immediately divesting all of his stocks.

(43:55):
Do you think the same thing applies when you get
stock tips from an overnight sports talk radio or a sidekick.
I'm just wondering, Yes, you wanna address this issue here?
You guess. I ride the hell out of the coattails
of these these famous investors because there's no reason not to.

(44:18):
I I don't think there's any drawback to to ride
in the coattails of some of the prominent figures that
they're out there. I don't know if you agree with
me on that, But like Cathy would who owns that,
she's the CEO of ARCA Investment Management. I look at
her portfolio every day, at least the stuff that's that's
popping up there on MSNBC and CNBC. There's no reason
not to. Because she's in it for the money and

(44:41):
they're the experts. Then it's so follow the experts every
given time. Why would you go down to different Yeah,
I just I disagree with that. I think you're you
know you can, you can do that to a point.
But I think you got to decide for yourself and
I think you gotta do your own research. Why though,
like you have, you don't want to go with the herd,
You don't want to go with the crowd. What do
you when the other direction? Like it's like that thing

(45:01):
Mike Row always says, you know, when everyone's going here,
go the other way. Yeah, but when you but when
you invest in a mutual fund, that's exactly what you're doing.
You're not buying just one stock, You're buying the entire portfolio.
You're looking at like your ten top stocks are usually
something that these guys are all invested into. Anyway, You're well, listen,
that's that's it. You're a follower, I'm a leader. You're

(45:25):
a beta. All right, that's just the way you are.
All right, you're admitting your a beta right now. Admit it.
Admit it. Beta beta beta beta beta beta beta beta.
You're what doctors call a fool. I am a self
made many Omega. Guess how about this then, since we

(45:46):
can make you can talk about followers and leaders. How
about this At the end of one we will look
at the We'll look at two things. We'll look at
Ben Maller and David Gascon's FICO scores, and we will
also look at at the percentage increase or decrease in
our investments for the entire year. We'll see who's got what. Okay,
how about this, how about we choose the name of

(46:07):
the podcast who instead of the fifth hour with Ben
Mallie will have Alpha to Omega. Ben in David right
there right there? How about that? Does that work? Come on?
That could be our mission statement, Alpha to Omega. We're
gonna somebody will be canceled in thirty days uh Travis
and Roseberg, Oregon rights and says it allowed to work

(46:30):
from the Mallard mansion for the rest of your career.
Could you ever envisioned doing it Art Bell style, just
cruising the world in an RV. Oh, that'd be great
arts one of my radio heroes, Art Bell. So I
would love it. Eating from perrumpt, Nevada, the Kingdom of Naie.
I need to come up with it. I need to
change the name of the studio. And that sounded great

(46:51):
from the Kingdom of nai He turns out that was
just the county that he was in. Well, John Madden hadn't.
Why don't you have a Mallard cruiser? Be fun? I'd
love I really want to go across. I'm jealous of
these truck drivers. They get the driver across the country
all the time. I'd love to do that. I don't
have the time to do it. Kevin in Kansas has

(47:13):
been with the Summer Olympics happening. We hope that means
we will get to watch sporting events we don't usually see.
What Olympic events summer, winter or both do you enjoy
watching the most? Since they only happen on a major
stage every two to four years. Like some of the
Winter Olympic stuff, the luge, that kind of stuff. Some

(47:37):
of the the the downhill skiing stuff is pretty crazy
that don't watch. Yeah, um, But mostly my experience with
the Olympics is just trying to find an angle because
it doesn't really translate to sports radio, and so you
need a controversy. It's the condom stories are always good,

(47:59):
like when they when they give condoms out to the
athletes prior to arriving at the Olympic village, Like they
always disclosed how mooping that goes on. Yeah, the always
disclosed how many condoms were given to all the Olympic
athletes once they entered the village. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's
are they are they gonna be doing that still with
with the COVID and all that sex is undefeated. Man

(48:21):
can't stop, can't stop, won't stop round the clock. John
the Jailer rights in from Allan Town, p A. Says
Ben and guestcon this past weekend was daylight savings times.
Are you in favor of this archaic practice or should
it be abolished? I believe in abolishing it. State of
California voted a couple of years back to get rid

(48:43):
of the daylight savings time and uh you know changing
you'll keep the clock one clock year round. I'm good
with it's still having light out at seven thirty closer
to eight o'clock. Well, yeah, just keep it. Pick the
time you want to whatever. I don't care which one is.
Just keep it. And the funny thing is about they

(49:05):
said the urban legend is this was for farming, but
it's not the I've heard the farming community says, we
don't care, you know, make the time whatever you want.
It's bullcrap. And people people have health problems when they
change the time, and they get an accidents more after
time change. I guess I could just move to Arizona
where they do it right, or one of the other

(49:26):
places in America where they they don't have the time change. Florida. Uh,
well they have the time changing Florida. They Eastern Standard
time switch. All right, I'll teach you about how this
the birds and the beast think thinking about the other
benefits of being in Florida right now, I know, I
hear you. Uh valls fan will do a few more.

(49:48):
Valls Fan Jimmy says, when you were a kid and
went to an amusement park band. Was it difficult for
you to ride rides being as tall and round as
you were? Absolutely, Jimmy, Yeah, the the round thing, you know,
you you'd wait online for like Space Mountain, and then

(50:08):
you would have to you'd have to squeeze like you're
squeeze and sardines into a can there to get into
the the seed on Space Mountain. It was a problem,
it was, And now I can't go on I've lost weight,
but I can't go on Space Mountain, for example now
because my my legs are too long and that won't work.

(50:28):
Carlos in Bang Bang Houston writes, since this, did you
have a fallback plan if you didn't make it in radio?
What happened to Real Biatch? Did he die? Real Bitch
has been banned from the show for I believe six months,
so we will not be hearing from him and maybe
ever again. He might be banned forever, but the actual
band will be about six months for conduct detrimental to

(50:52):
the Ben Maller show. Uh, And so he's he's been
banned and my fallback, I didn't really have a fallback,
you know, I thought if the radio thing didn't work out,
I'd have to get a real job, but you know,
kid around about Costco and all that. Joe and Richmond,

(51:12):
Virginia says, so many questions a little time. He says,
I recently conducted a yippie dot com browser search on you,
just to test what is hippie dot com? What does that?
I have no clue? Uh. He wanted to test the results,
and he says, I discovered that filexis might not be
the only six toed drag queen in your midst Uh

(51:36):
said you were described it, says Ben Maller, and she
is currently forty five years old. So I accorded it
to yippie dot Com. I'm I'm a woman, uh, and
says online rumors of Ben Maller's dating may vary, may vary.
While it's relatively simple to find out who's dating Ben Maller,
it's harder to keep track of all the flings, hookups

(51:57):
and breakups. Wow, I have no I do what Yippi
dot com is and don't believe anything you read on
the internet. And that's it. We're out of time. We
gotta go Gascon. Good weekend in the books, Yeah, it's uh,
it's a good weekend. It's gonna be an even better
fucking week. How about that, It's gonna be an even
better fucking week. I will disagree with you on that,

(52:20):
but listen, have a wonderful, glorious, glorious rest of your Sunday.
We'll be back in the Magic Radio Box Sunday night
into Monday, eleven p m. Sunday night in the West,
and that's two am in the East, all night long,
side by side, We'll talk to you. Then, have a
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(52:42):
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