Staying Awake with Jake

Big Ben catches up with one of his favorite people from FSR past, Jake Warner, who worked on the Ben Maller Show multiple times over the years stops by the podcast. He is currently working at Podcast One and as engineer for the NBA's LA Clippers and NHL's LA Kings radio broadcasts. Jake tells broadcasting war stories about the time with the Dodgers when Vin Scully helped save his life, teaching ESPN's Stephen A. Smith about the art of radio and much more.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Boom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes a
week was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants
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treats crackheads in the ghetto Cutter the same as the
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Hot takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour

(00:23):
with Ben Maller starts right now in the air everywhere,
back at it on a Friday. Halloween season is upon us.
There's a coolness in the air, and the Fifth Hour
with Me Ben Maller is in the air everywhere. As

(00:43):
we said, eight days a week, because four hours a
night are not enough. Back in the podcast studio at
his secret location in the north Woods, and I Am
not going to do a bunch of small talk here.
I'm gonna get right to it because there's a man
standing by right now on the phone that is responsible
for putting this podcast studio together. I'm sure we'll get

(01:07):
to that at some point, a man that knows the
early days of me at Fox Sports Radio. Jake Warner,
a member of the Miller Militia, my engineer on the
old Weekend Overnight show for many years, worked with me
on the weekday show. He's a renaissance man. He is
the lead engineer for the Los Angeles Clippers, my favorite

(01:31):
NBA team. He is the lead engineer for the l. A. King's,
my favorite hockey team. He worked for the l A. Dodgers,
my favorite baseball team, as an audio engineer. He traveled
the United States with the great Vince Gully and all
the legends of the Dodgers. Traveled the world with those
guys for many, many years. He's a podcasters. I mentioned

(01:54):
you's got the Big Brother Jake podcast and he's a
girl dad. He's very active on social media. Yeah, there's
a lot going on with this guy. And so let's
give it up now to Jake Warner. Stay awake with
Jake and Jake. I have been doing this dopey podcast
for several years now. I can't believe it's been several years.

(02:15):
Why have I not had you on the podcast? And
I think it's because you know, I decided to leave
the show and you held that against me, and now
you don't want me as a part of anything, but
you know I'll do it. I love being around you
being I always want to be around you know. I
always want to do whatever it takes to make you
happy being and I'm glad to be all the p Well, no, no, no,

(02:38):
se no, I appreciate that, Jake. And you know I
loved doing the show with you. And remember I did
not want you to leave when you originally left the
first time, I didn't want you to leave. And then
the second time I didn't want you to leave, and
and and so I just want that on the record now.
And as I have on, I try to have all
my friends on who worked at fs ARE back in
the day. So, how how are my association? Yeah? How

(03:01):
are the alumni association meetings? And are those going? Well?
The meetings are fine. You know, we we all try
to make ourselves available to sports radio. Would possible. Um,
I have not been asked to be president of that
alumni association happen yet, but I am an active man. Yeah. Well,

(03:22):
And I saw I ran into Tom Looney the other
night at Dodger Stadium. Yeah yeah, so I saw I
ran into Looney. And and he's, of course the founding
member of the fs ARE Alumni Association. He even before
he got hired at the company, and then once he
got hired, he knew eventually he would be part of
the alumni association. And that's why I have all the

(03:45):
members on as many as I can, Jake, because I
also will at some point be a member of the
fs ARE Alumni Association. But I've been able to last
a while, but I will be coming and I would
be paying my dues to those meetings. That's going to happen, Jake.
It's gonna happen, and you need to. Yeah, there is
a dude, there's a you know, membership dude. But you know,
sometimes you can get me go to ticket like you

(04:07):
do with your show, you know, and not not to
pay those dudes. But I'm one of those people. I
just don't tell them. Yeah, No, I I know. I'm
really bad with dates. I think everyone is around my age.
I always do, even when they're a lot older or
a lot younger. I just assume people are kind of
around my age, and I'm bad, as I said, with dates.

(04:28):
So when did you start at Fox Sports Radio. I
remember in the early days you were there pretty early
on at Fox Sports Radio, and then yeah, you went
to work with a dog just which we'll talk about
a little bit later. But when did that, When did
you begin you remember like roughly what year it was. Yeah,
I believe it was two thousands. Um I started. I

(04:53):
believe it was. I'll get the two thousands. I know.
It's like two weeks after the network started when I
showed up and UM, they put me on overnight weekends
and that's how we ended up meeting up. I was
a board op for Oh my goodness, who was very
board opping for at that point. There's so many people.

(05:14):
Steve Mason, I believe it was UM And yeah, that
was that was a little rocky, but that didn't end well.
But you know, I I was very opinionated at that time.
I think I was a little more rough around the
edges and didn't take as much crap from anybody at

(05:35):
that time in my life. But I've since calmed down.
But that's when I started around that time, and it
drew it to be a full time gig and I
have worked for them. To everybody on a network at
that point. Yeah, and there's not many left right at that.
I mean, that's a long long time ago, and I

(05:55):
we were you the board op, the Steve Mason who's
now for those that have lost track, he does a
show in l A still and then on the afternoon drive.
I don't know that amazing. I don't know Mason Ireland
been on forever. Yeah, so I don't know they're on
some day part during the day when I'm sleeping there
on or whatever. Fine, But so so anyway, there was

(06:18):
a Steve Mason show, and I actually brought this up
to Mason a couple of years ago. He had Jim
Bouten on, but he thought it was Jim Bowdend Okay, yeah, yeah,
this is one of this is one of the great
bloopers in the history of Fox Sports Radio. And I
don't know Steve's upset I'm bringing this up, but it's

(06:39):
twenty years ago. I think the statue of limitations has
run out right, Jake on this. Yeah, So I remember
I was there that night too, so we were both
there and we both witnessed. Yeah, it was an amazing
It was an amazing interview because I've had this happen
to me, but it wasn't ever as awkward as this.
So Macon and was interviewing what he thought was Jim Boughten,

(07:03):
the guy that wrote the book Ball four Right, wasn't
he the guy from the book? Yeah? And and if
you're if you're unfamiliar with the book Ball four. It
was a legendary book about all the kind of debauchery
that the Yankees. This guy he wrote he documented all
the things that the guys were doing for one one season, right,
I think it was with he was on the Seattle Pilots,
I think, and then he went to the Yankees, if

(07:24):
I remember correctly. Anyway, he I don't know all the details.
I'm just talking out of my toshoet, but I know
the book was about all the nonsense that the guys
were doing off the field, and you know the why.
I think the big thing on that book was the
wife swapping. Uh yeah. Anyway, so Mason, again, he didn't
realize he was talking to that guy. He thought he

(07:45):
was talking to Jim Bowden, who who was the general
manager of the what was he the Cincinnati Reds at
the time, I think it was at the time. Yeah.
So so Mason's doing the interview and he's he thinks
he's talking to you know, guy A, and he's talking
to guy B. You know, and that didn't that didn't

(08:08):
go so well. And uh but then Boughten, who's a
you know, I think he passed away a couple years.
Total jokes, total jokes, and yeah, yeah totally went with it. Yeah,
and he starts, he starts talking like he's he realizes
Mason doesn't realize he who he is, and so he
starts giving these outrageous answers. Remember with every question, if

(08:29):
I if I remember correctly, like every answer got more ridiculous. Yeah,
it was getting here and trade here. And I remember
the producer's name was Josh Rimmer. His dad actually is
um TV guy for the Columbus Blue Jackets uh NHL,
and he's the one that was producing that night. And

(08:51):
I said, Josh, I don't think this is who you
think of this? Like I knew right away. I was
like this, he's answering these questions. Weird. This isn't right.
He's going it's him, it's him. I'm like, I think
you got the wrong guy. And in the top back us,
this totally isn't who I think it is. Yeah, everyone

(09:14):
picked up on it. So even though joke, Mason picked
up on it, and then he starts going with it too.
This is a weird set of events after that, man,
But yeah, I'll remember that night. Yeah, Yeah, that was
one of the funny stories that in those days in
Fox Busts Radio. I think Bowden had Ken Griffey Jr.
Was on the Reds at the time, and I think

(09:35):
he had him traded. I think, if I remember correctly,
there was something with Griffy that had come up in
that in that time period. So I remember you were
with me on the weekend overnights early on, and remember
when the network started, there was no weekend overnight show.
When I started, they had put tape programming on the overnights,
and then I I was given the weekend overnight show

(09:57):
and we were on no affiliates. There was hardly anyone listening,
and it was pretty much just throwing stuff against the
wall at that particular point in the early days, and
we were on enough. If I remember the early affiliates,
we're like Binghamton, New York. Pittsburgh was the first Pittsburgh. Yeah, yeah,
there were like a few random scattered affiliates. But no,

(10:22):
it was it was it was kind of like a
private conversation, right Jack. No one was really no one
was listening at that's us talking with the mics on
and people just happened to listen, you know. Binghamton New
York was always representing you know, uh that in the
one commercial we always used to play in Housecat Yes, yes, yes,
everyone yeah, left me my better dreams. I still hear

(10:47):
that damn song. Um. But those were fun days because
we could do anything we wanted and nobody was listening. Upstairs.
They're all asleep or under you know, actification homes when
we're there are yachts because you know, they were making
the big money. We were over there swimming in the studio.
But that was a lot of fun. We got away
with a lot of stuff and something I couldn't do nowadays,

(11:11):
and that's what made it a lot of fun. And
you know, before I became friends with you, I was
always a fan of yours, you know, living in the
l A. Are you listening to you and Dave Smith
on the Extra Sports eleven fifty? I was a p
one back then, and uh I was listening. I listened
every day and I still here the last track that
you guys would play after everything. But I love the show.

(11:36):
And then when I found out you were coming over,
I was like cool. And then I found out I
was gonna work with you, and we both were big
fans of Jimmy Hilly here in l A. And you know,
so it's like, hey, you got sound effects playing them,
you know, jigging ball, the old you know, funny stuff
in Tono Losorda, And I was like, man, I'm right
there with you. So I would kind of just gauge

(11:57):
when you were doing with certain things and I would
be able to play something the right when I just
saw your eyes, you know, like what you or what
do you want it? Or you'll treat you with your voice?
And you bought and so that actually helped me grow
and I had a good time and taught me how
a lot of our radio you know, behind the scenes. Um,
but you allow me a lot of creative freedom and

(12:18):
and that's what made it fun. It was a lot
of fun working. Yeah, I love I love the j
and people ask about the show and I did goofy stuff.
Back in the nineties, we got away with a lot
of stuff. And before I got the Fox Sports Radio
was much different. People were not all uptight. You could
goof around and you know, people were fine with it.
Now people and I think most people are still okay

(12:39):
with it, but there's just enough people that complain that
it's it's it's not it's not the same. But yeah,
when when we were on the weekend overnights and people
ask about the Mallary militia and all that stuff. That
all started on the weekend overnights because we were we
started picking up more radio stations as the network started
to grow and more people kind of heard the show
and got the show. And but we we, you know,

(13:02):
we we just would look for anyone. I remember that
when people would call up. We were shocked that anyone
called up because we weren't on anywhere. So I and
then we would just start I would just start blabbing
with people. And that's that's how we the show kind
of morphed into we Genie and Medford and some of
the people. Doc Mike. You were there when Doc started

(13:23):
calling the show, And oh yeah that I'm trying to
think of the early caller we had, Doc Mike Cowboys
been calling forever. He's he still calls me. He's still
called yeah he Oh that guy and nothing would shake him. Man.
I would play so many crazy sound effects and trying
to throw him off, and he was so dedicated and

(13:46):
it used to make me mad. I think I got
him one time when I DoD like I made sure
the whole world knew. I was happy about it. Yeah, well,
and that's great because you can explain Jake as the
producer engineer what lay too cow We had Cowboys Corner,
and then over there, over time it morphed in You're
just playing a bunch of sound effects while Cowboy drones

(14:09):
on about who died this week in sports and what
his junior high school teacher told him when he was
you know, and he was late to school one day,
like all that stuff. The magic of Cowboy John Brad.
But he was pretty monotone, right, He's always been monotone,
and so, yeah, exactly, it was kind of weird. But

(14:32):
I wanted to throw him off because like you would
kind of be funny, Well you're always funny to me,
but like you would be funny and like tough, like
over him to the audience, and he would never pick
it up, something like well and then it's talking over
him and he doesn't pick it up. I would trying
to throw him off. So I would play sound effects,
you know, I'd hear certain things he would say and
try to find like the sound effects that would match it,

(14:54):
and it would throw him off. So My goal after
that was to make sure I could break him. And
I say thousands, you know, hundreds of calls, thousands of
calls that I sat in and did the show not
after night. Um. One time I got him, and I
think there was like a streaming lady or something or
you know, some crazy drop and he just stopped and

(15:16):
he kind of chuckled, like I got him, I got him, Gotti. Gotti. Yeah,
I am stunted, Jake. I am stunned, Jake, Jake. I
am stunned that he still called after all these years
he's had he had a stroke, he said COVID, like
I know the whole Cowboys story. I know all the

(15:37):
ailments he's had. I remember when he was on uh,
the CBC in Canada did a story about him. They
called him the Handsome hoarder, I think, or he called
himself the handsome horder and he the Canadian government had
to like take him out of his home in Windsor
because he had so much like stuff, newspapers that he

(15:58):
had piled up. And he is living in Squalor and
and but he's still he always found a way to
call the show, until at one point he stopped for
a while because he didn't have phone service. I guess
because he phone got cut off. He had so much stuff,
but it was it was crazy. And then some of
the I'm trying some of the other called Pete, and
Pittsburgh was also there in the day. Another one, he's

(16:20):
another one, yeah, knucklehead. Then his head got big because
you know, I started going on Howard Stern, you know,
so he thought it was too good to call the
Big Manage Show. And I'm like, bro, you're Pete and
Pittsburgh nobody gives a rat's ass who the hell you are?
And we used to battle on Twitter all the time
until one day he was just like here, man, I'm sorry.

(16:41):
I didn't need to be mean to you. So yeah,
well Pete, Pete, yeah exactly. Pete became one of Stern's
whack pack guys and he called us before he called Stern,
and he the Stern used to put him on. I
will give Pete credit though, when I got whacked from
Fox Sports Radio in oh nine and I was I

(17:01):
was like bummed out and I was like this sucks.
Pete in Pittsburgh called the Howard Stern Show and dropped
my name and talked to Howard about about me because
there a bunch of people got laid off and let
go at that time. And uh so, I I I
appreciate Pete because I didn't hear it live, but I had.
I have a lot of relatives that were, you know,

(17:21):
big Stern fans and still are big Sterns fans, and
so they heard my name and then they're wait a minute,
were they talking about you? And uh so that was
that was pretty cool. Pete does not call anymore. I
did reach out to Pete in Pittsburgh recently, somewhat recently
about coming on the podcast. I thought I would shoot
the shoot the ship with him Jake on the podcast. Yes, yes, yes,

(17:45):
we are allowed. It's the reason I do the podcast. Jake.
You can say naughty words, you can't stay on radio.
So but now Pete we were. I was like, hid
Pete come on the show? And I called Pete up.
It was kind of late at night. He's in Pittsburgh.
He is stinking drunk, he says. He's walking on the
side of the highway there in in Pittsburgh, just kind

(18:07):
of wandering around. He started screaming my name. It was
he was not in good shape. Jake he was not
in good. Now. I hope that was just a bad
night and and things are better for Pete, but he
was not not doing particularly well that night. Here's another
blast in the past, Jake. And these are all names
that the listener might not realize if you're listening to

(18:28):
this Podcastler, I don't know who that is, but these
are these are called We had Troy the gambling man,
who was Yeah, Troy drove a sweeper truck around Nashville,
and and and again, Jake. The point of all this,
we put these people on right because we just I
was just looking for people. Anybody that called up, we
want when I want to hear the story. You wanted

(18:49):
to have some fun, you know, change it up a
little bit. And so that's that's what happened. And and
he would call up and give the worst gambling picks
of all time. And he was he was a terrible
gambler at handicapping NFL games. But he uh, he's like, oh,
you know, I he thought he was great. And that's
the thing that made the bit. He thought he was

(19:10):
really good and he was not. But anyway, so you
you left FSR. Jake, it's all we gotta get back
to you, Jake. This is all about you. So you
left FSR and you got one of the great jobs
in broadcasting. You got to work for the Los Angeles
Dodgers and travel the United States and the world with

(19:33):
Dodger baseball. And that was a great, wonderful What's the
coolest thing you got to experience when you were traveling
with the Dodgers, oh Man, so many, so many things
I got to do. Um one of the coolest things was,
I'll tell this story. I told it on my podcast,

(19:54):
which is a big Jake podcast by the way, you know,
I'm gonna get it in. But the coolest moment, I mean,
of course seeing all the history ballparks, and luckily my
tenure there, I got to go to like Fenway, and

(20:15):
I got to go to Wrigley, you know, and all
the great ballparks. But my favorite memory of working for
the Dodgers it was two thousand four. It was the
the game before last game of the year against the
Giant and it was for the division. And as when
Steve Finley hit that Grand Slam to beat the Giants

(20:38):
and take the division. That day, Vin Scolly was doing
radio only it was just it was just then and
I in the booth um producer Tom Bowman was downstairs
ready for the champagne. Rick Monday was already downstairs. Ralphs
Porter was downstairs. Everybody's downstairs, so it's just then and I.
As soon as Steve Finley hit the ball, then lost

(21:00):
the ball. I saw the ball and mccarl clus day,
it's way back and wherever it is. She looked at me,
and I'm doing the home run signal to him. You
know wherever it is, it's a grandfriend home run did
He laid out, turned his mic off, turn around and

(21:21):
look back to me, said Jake, Mike Shannons and St. Louis.
When we get there on me, thank you for saving
my bacon. Were right back to announcing like nothing happened.
That's awesome, that's great. Helped the great Vince Scully on
a home run call. That's a lot, that's what. When
then he was that the last year he did radio

(21:42):
only because he he didn't do that right, but it
was a simulcast off the TV for a while at
the last few years that he did it right. He
didn't just do the radio. He would I don't think
he did radio only at all. After like was it no, no, no, no, no, um,
you know, the only time he do radio only in
the playoffs, of course, but his last game was a

(22:03):
regular season game against the Giants in San Francisco, and
that's how he wanted to end it. So he pretty
much after that, like he didn't do any just like
radio only broadcast. Yeah. Yeah, when when I first started
years ago, um, in the mid nineties, he would do
radio when the games weren't on TV because not every
game was on TV. And it was one of my

(22:26):
my favorite memories. We were the Dodgers were in New
York at at Shasee Stadium and you know what a
crappy press boy almost yeah it was. It was horrible, Yeah,
I know. It was a horrible ballpark. It was. I
can't believe that was a New York City ballpark that
was newer, you know, at the time they built it.

(22:47):
It was the model ballpark. Supposedly was dump but but
it was a day games, very hot, humid in in
New York and in the summertime in like August. Just
always used to go in August in those days. And
so Vin was doing radio only and he was we
were in shorts. He had like they gave him some
Dodger shorts and he had a T shirt on, and

(23:09):
as it was, it was it was the wildest thing
to see the great Vince Scully and just going casually. Yeah,
you know, because he always you were around him all
the time, He's always dressed up and looking good. And yeah,
if you saw him dressed down the only time, what
he would were dressed down with a polo shirt and slacks.
That was being dressed down for him. To me, that's

(23:29):
being dressed up. That's like fancy duds for me, because
you know the reason why I got in my radio
so I didn't have to wear a sup you know.
And I do have another I do have another crazy
n story story. Give it to me. I love any
Vince Scully story I want to hear. He actually saved
my life and this is a true story. Um. The
very first time I met Vin in a professional capacity,

(23:53):
because I met him being in the press box, you know,
he says hi, you know, that was the extent, and
that was already like I could die now. But the
first time I got to actually talk with him, we
were in Mexico City in two thousand three. It was
a spring training series against the Mets, and um, we

(24:15):
went to a soccer stadium to work and it was like,
you know, in Mexico City, the elevation tired. In Denver,
there's like seven thousand feet. I'm asthmetic. There's no elevators,
and being an engineer, you have to like love all
this equipment, you know. So I'm my third trip up,
I'm dying. It's hot, and I did right to the

(24:39):
boots where we work. Damn. I collapsed face first onto
the floor, hurt myself and I blacked out. The next
thing I feel is cold water going down my neck
and I are you okay? I was like, dude, I
just hear the toy's point. I died. I'm in heaven

(25:01):
and you never any death. Poured water on my necks,
rubb in my back and he's like, I saw you
fall and then scared me. Are you okay? You must
And I was like, and I don't do a good impersonation,
but I was like, holy shit, and he starts laughing.
And ever since then we had a really cool relationship,

(25:25):
you know. But yeah, so he would always say, hey,
we're in Timver, you better take it easy. I don't
have any cold water like Oh, you're funny, you know.
And Vin Vin probably at the times like, holy Conoli,
this guy's gonna die in front of me. What am
I gonna do here? Right? He's probably thinking, wait a minute,
you know, I gotta do something. You can imagine how
that's gonna play. Dodgers go to Mexico City and you

(25:47):
know engineer Jake Warnered, you know, if something happens and
in the booth and Vin's right there, oh man, that
would have been a big deal. That would have been crazy. Yeah,
it would have been news, you know, especially be in
a Mexico city. But that was that was another thing
that was cool. And and I think one plane ride, um,
he usually sat in the first class and then it

(26:09):
was like broadcasters, team staff and then the players are
in the back and Ross Porter would always trying to
sit next to him, like all the time. And but
in this particular moment I got on the plane, I
think we're heading even Denver. It was it had to
be a West coast city because Vinn never went past
Denver at that time. And he was like, hey, have

(26:32):
a seat. I'm like, oh, so maybe I'm just sitting
there before the flight takes off that I go in
the back, and I was like, let me put my
stuff in the back, good, and I'll come back and say, no,
sit here with me. I was like really, I was like, well,
Boody Dewerry, the old Travelague secretary God blessing Um. He
usually sat by Vin or it was Ross Porter, but
Billy didn't make that trip, and Ross is looking at

(26:53):
me and they just getting another seat. So for three
hours I got to suit with Vin and just talk
about Jackie Robinson and his days, you know, starting out
with the Dodgers, and that was something I wish I
had to take recorder for that conversation. And Billy he
mentioned Billy de Leary also he was with the team
in Brooklyn, right, wasn't he with the team? Yeah, he goes,

(27:13):
but he went back to the Dodger he was there.
Very the skinniest man I ever came across in my life. Yeah,
like a small was extra large to him. You know,
I think it's such a security number was one. I
love Billy because he didn't take ship for nobody. He
didn't care who you were, you know, but he always

(27:35):
looked out for me. When I needed something like tickets
for tonight, I got you young man. He could never
memorize the name for ship. No. No. He would always
take care of me and God bless us though. He
was one of the great people. And of course we
had like the great student ahand God bless him soul
as well. Probably with Rutching Vin and Student Ahan talked together.

(27:56):
That was pure comedy. Loved it. Oh, those the best
couple of seasons on my life. Highlight of my career
working with the Dodgers. Man Yeah, and uh Billy de Leary,
you know, hard edge, kind of Brooklyn guy, thin guy,
as he said. And when I started, when I first
started doing stuff with the Dodgers and I was we
were I would make the East coast trip because my

(28:17):
brother lived in in New York, so I'd go back
there and I could see him. And then when I
first started going, I don't know if this happened when
you were there, there were these old dudes that would
hang out in front of the hotel that we're like
Brooklyn Dodger. They were kids when the Dodgers were playing
in Brooklyn and they'd show up. They were like the
Brooklyn Dodger fan club and they'd hang out outside the hotel.
They get photos and autographs and it was it was crazy.

(28:40):
I don't know that can't be many of those guys
left right at this point. Probably not, but yeah, I
mean just being in Bureau Beach. I know this is
so sinister, but it's perfect for the fifth. We'd be
sitting in the booth in Dodgertown and we're hearing ambulance
and you would say, oh no, we want to lost another.

(29:11):
I mean, and everyone understands. It was all gray and
blue hair. Rarely you see somebody my age at Dodger Town,
you know. But well, well, yeah, and I've told this
story before Jack on the podcast. You'll appreciate this. I
don't know, maybe I told it to you also on
the when I did your podcast, the Big Brother Jake Podcast.

(29:33):
But my my Tommy Hawkins story with Vero Beach when
we showed up to Vero Beach and it was a
big deal spring training, Dodger spring training. I heard so
much about Vero Beach and this is great. This old
school training facility had been in since they were in
Brooklyn the oh Man. So I show up there and
you know, I'm a single guy. We're doing the Ben
and Dave show back to l a and Tommy Hawkins

(29:56):
one of the nicest people. Rest in peace. Tommy Hawkins,
the greatest pe the ball time. Yeah, played with the
Lakers when they came from Minneapolis and told some amazing
stories about that and just one of the nicest human beings.
So go up to Tommy. I'm like, hey, Tommy, you
know where do we want to go out? You know,
we have a night off in Vero. We want to
go out, you know, maybe you know, meet a nice

(30:17):
young lady. And I don't think we phrased it quite
that way, Jake, but anyway, So Tommy's like, oh, I
got the perfect place for you. I got the perfect place,
and he and I wish I remember the name of
it was. It was a bar restaurant they like live,
like live music, if I remember correctly. And Tommy's like,
this is the spot, This is the spot you're gonna go.

(30:38):
You have a great time. So I go there and
Dave the guy, Dave Smith, we go show up and
we walk in there and hand the goud Jake. The
youngest person in there was like in their early sixties.
You know, we're like in our mid twenties. We're like,
what the heck? And this was the this was the
swinging Vero Beach bar, Jake. This was where the cool

(30:59):
the young people hang out in Vero was that. It
was that bar. I know, I've probably been all three
establishments that were in the fine night life of beach. Yeah.
So then we we left there and I think we
had to go to another It was at Port St. Lucy.
We went somewhere on that one of the Highway one

(31:21):
stops and we we we did find a bar that
there were a few younger people. The problem was the
younger people, the good looking women were hanging out with
the ball players that were in the party. They wanted
nothing to do with us. So that did not work out.
And that's where all the Mets players were in Port St. Lucy.

(31:42):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly exactly. So you you
helped this podcast studio. You built this podcast, dude, this
is a product. I'm doing this from the Jake Warner
podcast studio deep in the north Woods here, and I
want to thank you for that, Jake, because you pointed
me in the right direction. I had what I thought

(32:04):
was a podcast studio with a crappy microphone and a
couple of other things, but it was not broadcast quality.
But you, being a professional radio engineer and knowing good
audio quality, You've led me the right direction. I did
have to dust off my wallet, Jake, but I want
to thank you because you and I appreciate it being

(32:25):
like you know, I was trying to tell you, but
you you know, you you you you laced me. It
was cool. I appreciate that. But no, man, that's one
of my passions. You know, podcasting is the big thing now.
And you know I worked for a company called podcast One,
and um, you know, I love building studios, I love
having fun doing it, and I'm glad that I was

(32:47):
able to help. You know. I also helped Eddie Garcia
build his studio for this amazing podcast you know. So
you know I I think I've helped many people fs
are their podcast studios. Well, and this is this is
a little cottage industry, Jake. I think you should offer
this service to people. You are willing for a nominal

(33:08):
fee to help them out to build their podcast studio,
to make the podcast dreams come true. Well, you know,
anybody who needs something, you know, hit the boy up.
I'm ready, I'm ready to work. You know, any chance
I did here you are a hustler, Jake. I give
you credit now when you when you left radio the
first time, well when was a second when you left

(33:30):
our show and you went back to your alma mater. Right,
you gotta got a job at your alma mater. And
how long you did that for for a little bit,
and then you got you got the radio bug, right,
your lifetime radio. You seen your d n A. Right,
you had to come back. Oh yeah, yeah, you're you're
You're born into this life. You know it. Shoose radio.

(33:51):
You don't choose radio, radio, choose okay. And the thing
is I always had my foot in radio. I was
doing part time work, but I was I worked at
my alma mater, University of Liver for four years, and
each year got worse than the other. So I was
really like oppressed, Like I'm not even kidding, Like I

(34:11):
had to take a leave of accidence from work because
I hated my job so bad. But I had a
family to feat you know, and so funny story, there's
a true story. So as I took some time off
and I was like, you know what, when I get
to go camping, which I hate camping. Um, but at

(34:32):
the time, my wife at the time. She was like, well,
the family wants to go campaign. We're gonna be some friends.
I'm like, okay, So I told her, I said, after
this trip, I'm going back to radio. I can't do
this anymore. She's like, I understand, Well, if you find
something I do, I support it. I bullshit you not
being right. Before I went to hill where there's no reception,

(34:54):
I get a call from a m Fosta and it's
a person we both Brian Blackmore, a good friend of ours,
and uh Brian called me and says, hey, what's up, sucker.
You know, like, hey, what's up man? What you need?
And he says, what are you doing right now? I said,

(35:15):
I'm about to go up they hear him, I'm about
to lose you. He's like, whatever you're at pool. I'm like, okay.
So I pull over to this gas station literally at
the base of the head and he says, our engineer
literally just click for the clippers and the kings. You
know you've got Dodger experience. What do you say? I said,

(35:35):
I'll take it done. Signed me up, coach, I'm ready
to play. Put me in yeah, And he's like, I
didn't even tell you how much to pay. I don't
care if it doesn't pay, I'll take it. He's like, seriously,
I was like, isn't do I just work the games
at Staples Center. Yeah, a couple in Anaheim. I'll take it.
And I literally take it, not even know how much

(35:56):
you paid. That's how bad I want to get back
in the radio. And and it was we have you know,
comparable you know, uh compensation and it'll work out way
comes and numbers and you know I'm not I'm going
on my fourth season um with Clipper Nation and which
they've embraced me. And now, yeah, exactly you are. That's

(36:16):
your historian of the Lakers. But you have come and
seen the light, Jake. You have had the come to
come to Clipper Daryl moment here. You've moved over to
the to the dark side with the people's team here.
And I love it when I see you send someone
out on social media, and you are prolific on social media.
But when you said a positive message out about the Clippers,

(36:39):
that that warns my heart considering I know your past, Jake,
and I know because there there's a rule, as I
told you that to work at Fox Sports Radio, you
had to be like behind the glass. You had to
be like a Laker fan, and and that was required.
They wouldn't put you on its Lakers Raiders. Yes, it's
like you know, if you didn't meet that criteria, then

(37:01):
you know, you weren't allowed to work the board producers
ever from out of state. So they were always like
different fans. But you know that was the prerequisite to
be a board off by Fox Sports Radio, which I
hate the Raiders. I'm a Charger fan. Raiders can kiss
my ass um you know, and I'm like your fan.
And Dodgers for sure. Loved the Dodgers. My grandfather, God

(37:21):
rest his soul. As soon as I was born, put
a doctor head on me, took a picture to leave
the Dodger for life. I don't care, you know so,
and he passed away right before I had a chance
to introduce the bed Scory. That's his favorite broadcast, you know. So. Yeah, man,
like deal with the Clippers, especially after last year and
witnessing what I witnessed with them going to the Western

(37:43):
Conference Final, I had never and I worked Kobe's last game,
which that was the loudest I've ever heard Staples Center,
the second loudest I ever heard the Staple and I'll
covered concerts there. I've covered Laker games, Cooper games, team games, everything.
I was very at the Stanley Cup final everything. When
the Clippers won against Dallas, the Dalla Utah to man,

(38:06):
that's how best of my brain is. Well, they beat
they beat Utah and then they they beat Dallas in
the first round. Utah, this is this is this is
the greatest moment. And Clippers they beat Dallas the first round,
which is not the greatest, mother but but beating Utah
when I got hurt, yeah okay, yeah yeah yeah okay.
So when they beat Utah and that buzzer went off,
I have never other than the Cody game Hurd Staple

(38:29):
Center as loud as it was. And my all my
friends called me sell out. All my friends are like,
you suck, I can't believe you. Trade it over and
Cooper Nation said, listen, we know you're a Laker fan,
but you worked for the greatest organization in l A.
We accept you into coopernation. So they embraced me, and

(38:52):
I think I got like four extra follows on Twitter
and Instagram through Cooper Nation. Like you know, I would
always kick the fan base down Oh that's a little
brothers JP. You guys are writing staples saying blah blah
blah blah blah. But these fans are so passionate and
they come in night and night out and cheer for

(39:13):
their squad, and they're always so cool. You know, I'm
high fiving people when I'm engineering the great noware eagle,
you know, people are like, I'm high five on the crown.
I'm standing up getting excited. You know, it's crazy to see.
And then this is the thing I hate about Laker fans.
Laker fans will dress up in their jerseys and come
to a Cooper game and cheer against them. Like that's

(39:35):
the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. Man,
this comes from a guy to grow living the Lakers.
It's like, why don't you waste your time to go
to a Clipper game and boo them in your Laker game?
Cooper's getting that money, bro, what are you doing. I've
witnessed a lot of things Laker fans have done, the
Cooper fans, and it's embarrassing and it's sad, but you know,

(39:57):
I I love the gig. It's a lot of fun.
One I get to be with No Eagle every night,
the Great Adam Austin that does a pretty post game
show and we have a good time. We legit have
a good time every night. We laugh where the dance
and the music. We have a great time. It's it's
it's a great atmosphere. It's not all stuck up and
stuffy like a Laker game would be. And I'm on

(40:19):
my catch help for this being but I don't really
give it, damn, because Coliper Nation has embraced me. I've
embraced them and it's been fun. Man. It's a good writer.
I don't want it to end. I want to stay
there until to keep me out well. And in a
couple of years you're gonna be at the taj Mahal.
That arena they're building in Inglewood is going to be insane.
And see, this is what I told you, Jake. You
wouldn't listen to me back in the old days. I said,

(40:41):
the Clippers of the People's team, right the Lake terms
are the Hollywood team. It's a whole different vibe in
a Laker game versus a Clipper game. Yeah, And I
gotta tell you that No Eagle, I was a little
skeptical I'm not gonna lie, Jake. You know, I was
Ralph Lawler guy when they hired No Eagle, and you
know he's just guy out of college. You know, he's

(41:02):
good though. He is really solid as a broadcaster. I
guess it. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree
because I know his father. I and Eagles very good
on television. But oh yeah, I was a very nice guy.
I love I and I got to meet him several times.
And uh, I'll tell you. I'll tell you a story

(41:23):
real quick. I ain't Eagle came. It was one of
the games where they were both working together, and of
course you know they did this whole like production piece
on it, just that the other I comes up to
me and hey, I just want you to know my
son speaks highly of you, and he I thank you

(41:44):
for looking out for him, because you know, he was
like new to l A. He didn't know much about
the city, and you you embraced them, and I was
at all thanks and I said I'm a fan of yours,
just so you know. And it was it was like
a cool moment, you know. And I was skeptical of
no because I've never heard of him. I never heard
of him, and you know, I was like, I ain't

(42:06):
he goes kids? Is that why he got the game?
I'll be honest, like, I like, yeah, yeah. Then I've
worked with him the first game and I'm blown away
because this kid so mature. He's like, you know, for
being twenty four to almost twenty five, super mature, supermature

(42:28):
and firm of me around. Knows the game, and he
knows everybody. I mean everybody in the industry. We'll be
sitting there, you get like Doris Brunt come up to him, Hey,
you're doing a little bird. So that's what they call him,
you know, Mike Brenner come up to Mark Jackson, all
these broadcasters from every team. You know, they respect him

(42:49):
because of his father, but they also respect him because
of his workers. The kid he perhaps, he does good work.
He's amazing on the air, he's engaging, his references are fun.
It's just a good guy to be around. Yeah No,
he's really really he's really good. And you know that
he's gonna end up doing tell just like his dad.
I end up doing television. And yep, I already I

(43:12):
already told him. I said, man, it's nice working with
He's like, what do you mean you quitting. I said, bro,
you're gonna blow up so big, bigger than your dad.
And I'm gonna be that guy who said, oh I
was his first radio engineering. He's like, I'm staying here forever.
I was like, okay, now, I know you're young. Yeah, no,
there's no taking the opportunities. Yeah, he will. He will

(43:33):
be doing TV before, you know, like full time. I mean,
whatever he wants. I guy's gonna get Yeah. I mean
you already want to end me for the whole Nickelodeon
NFL playoff game in New Orleans, so that one and
Andy and he was part of that. And he's doing
CBS College Football every Saturday now, so I mean he's
a big time But I was like, man, you know,

(43:54):
and he's staying with us another couple of years. So
I did him at least that much longer. But I
don't want to see him go. But he's so good
he's not gonna stay. And I'll say it on the
fifth hour, I know that's gonna happen. I don't want
him to go, but you know, when you're that good,
you're in high demand. But he's amazing to be around.
And I'm telling you the Colippers have been nothing good

(44:15):
to me. It's just been a fantastic experience, better than
I thought it would be, and I don't want it
to end. I'm I'm looking forward to going to the
new arena and you know, the Clippers will finally be
out of that whole identity thing with l A. You know.
But I don't understand, especially now, that the hate that
Laker fans have for Corpers fans. I don't get it,

(44:38):
like Coupper fans don't care about Laker fans at all.
And I'm telling you that from the inside, people are like,
you know, we don't care about the Lakers. You know,
we were about us. Lakers are rent free, you know,
Coopers are rent free. In the Laker fans head, it's
it's it's crazy to see. And they're they're like, hey,
I'm still getting They're literally building the arena right now,

(45:01):
the new Clip Arena, which is being paid for by
Steve Bamber in Inglewood, and I'm still getting messages the
Clippers are moving to Seattle or Las Vegas or something
like that from all from Laker historians that are like,
oh no, no, well you've got to get them out
of l as so it's the jealousy. Why would you
be jealous? It makes no sense. I never understood it.
You know, back in the day, I was part of

(45:22):
that being done, as you know. But I've had people
telling me I have sources that I'm telling me that
the Clippers going to Seattle. I'm like, um my check
stub said Los Angeles Clippers on it. I wouldn't know. Yeah,
we're leaving before you are, you know, because they're not
have to look for work but going anywhere. Man, Yeah,

(45:45):
they're they're sticking around. So you've got the podcast, which
you've already promoted Jake. You've already promoted the Big Brother
Jake Podcast. So but for those that maybe miss that
and weren't paying attention, make the elevator pitt now. I
was lucky enough to be on your podcast. But make
the elevator pitch right now. On why a random fifth
hour listener, a member of the Mallard militia who maybe

(46:07):
does not remember the Jake Warner era on the show,
why should that person tune in to your podcast? Well,
let me tell you so the Big Brother Jake Podcast
powered by Podcast One of course. Um, the reason why
you want to listen to the Big Brother Jake podcast.
Is because I am such a relatable person to the

(46:28):
average Joe. You know, I'm a single father of three
that's gone through the voice, that has had problems with,
you know, being a single dad. I've I've I've had
mental illness, I've had conclude the press moments of my life.
I've also know how to have a good time to
be a single man. I love sports, a love music,

(46:49):
and it's just like talking to one of your friends
at the bar if your brother's like talking to one
of your people's at the barbershop. We just have a
good time. On my show, we were like Jerry Seinfeld
Show of Podcasts. We talked about everything and nothing at
the same time. Show us about absolutely nothing. But it's
a big party. We have a good time. You know.
One of the things I talked about is my hate

(47:10):
for Valentine's Day because it's the Hallmark holiday and people
know that people come from love advice, you know, I mean,
being single, it's been very fun for me. I'm gonna
start on the line very but you know, I'm really
live in my naval days. That's what we do. We
just have a good time. Everything is relatable if you're
going through something, you know, you're your vetterm, you know, PTSD.

(47:34):
I'm I suffer from PTSD, you know. But if you're
like wanting to have a good time on a budget,
I can tell you how to do that. Like I
talk about all kinds of different lines issues, pop culture,
sometimes politics, you know, I try. I try to be
an escape from politics, but sometimes things happen that are
so big you have to, you know, discuss it. So

(47:55):
the Big Brother Jade podcast in comp of Sason, everybody,
it's all like it's inclusive, everyone's welcome, we all have
a good time on a bit of podcast. You could
find it on Ulstree platforms, iTunes, Google Plays, Spotify, tune In,
I Heart Radio, Amazon everywhere. Brother Yeah and Jake, let

(48:17):
me let me tell you you you I'm oppressed and
I was on the podcast like there are no women
in comparison that listened to sports talk radio right that
it's a very small there's a we know. I think
we know the names of all the women that listen
to my show. Yeah, I think that I'll seven of them,
yes exactly, And they're very nice women and we thank
them for listening. But your podcast, you have a pretty

(48:40):
big following with with women, which is surprising. I mean,
to me, I'm not ripping you, Jake, but you're you're
a sports radio guy, just as surprising as you are.
My biggest demographic. You know, it's inside talk, I know,
but like, my biggest demographic, my biggest listener base is
in middle aged women thirty five and fifty four. And

(49:03):
because I'm relatable to these women, because it's like, and
I'll tell a little something. Those that are listening that
are single, dad, use it to your advantage. Women love
to seeing men taking care of their children. And I'll
go out to the mall with my three daughters and
two of them are there in the grown and these
women are like, oh my god, like like how cute

(49:25):
he is with his kids and the grooves and they
love it. They eat it. They eat it up, bro,
And so you know, I'm just tell them something. Most
of the time I'm out with like a podcast hurt
because I'm trying to promote the brand, you know, and
so oh yeah, the podcast. I'm like, listen to the podcast,
you know, you learn more about me and what I do.
And then the feedback is great. They tell their friends,

(49:47):
they tell their friends and showing the soft forth and
it becomes like a phenomenon. So yes, I'm just as
surprised as you that women listen to the podcast of
us as they do. And it's been a lot of
fun doing it. I've been behind in the scenes for
twenty years, so to be able to get on the
microphone and talk, it's a different animal. Like damn, everybody

(50:08):
does this for like four hours a day every day,
like like an hour or two once a week, and
I'm like, damn, I gotta come up with stuff. But
it's a lot of fun. I love that side of
the glass. You know. My my main level always be
audio engineering and max thing. That's my main love producing.
But being on, you know, behind on the microphone, it's

(50:30):
a lot of fun. And yes, I encourage all the
women and then to listen to Yeah, yeah, I know.
And I when I went on and we we I
hopefully we had a lot of the people listen to
this podcast. I didn't I promoted it, but I hope
they tuned in and listen. Second second most listen to
episode ever in the show's history. Look at that number two,

(50:53):
number number two. We're dropping a duce right now. We're
number two coming, Yeah, and climbing because my my most
listen to episode is my hundredth episode. But I had
like Jerry Springer on there. I had like kids from
Kids and Play people like that. You had Jerry Springer
on your podcast? Yeah, he made a quick guest appearance.

(51:16):
Really Yeah. Yeah, I had some friends pull some strings
for me that all me favors from years ago on them.
Hey I got Dodger, took you some you need some,
And they'd asked me for him and I give it
to him while I cast some favors in like seventeen
years later. And you you're still friends with with stephen A. Right,
you worked with him in Fox Sports Radio. We worked

(51:39):
together and I almost actually took a job with him
in New York City, but I was married. Yeah, I
was married at the time. The family was not trying
to move to New York and they didn't want me
to commute and come see them three days a week,
which I was seeing the three days week. We're kidding overnight,
so I never saw him anyways, Like would you would
have me Friday mid Friday to the early Monday, And

(52:01):
they're like nah, no, no, no, no, So yeah, we
still talk I mean, he got his moments some big
time to me. But then I called him a moment.
Oh really? You know his birthday the other day and
I called him real quick and I are you busy? Yeah,
I'm on the set of SO and stuff. I don't
tell me. Yeah, I'll just tell you, dumbass, happy birthday.
We'll appreciate that. Brother. Yeah, well that that's that's kind

(52:26):
of how to have things go. Now. But that's cool.
I get it. Yeah, I mean, and you know, Steve,
he worked a lot of people don't even know he
worked at Fox Sports Radio. They don't even realize that
when at two different times. Yeah, yeah I knew I
met I don't know him what I you know, casually
I met him. He did a weekend show. His first
radio was he just showed John Ireland on the weekends.

(52:48):
And that was before John Ireland was the Laker play
by play guey. I was just I think he was
doing sidelines occasionally for the Lakers. But they did a
show together on Saturdays, and yeah, I remember that. And
then Steve and a blue up. He went to ESPN.
He blew up and then he came back. Everyone comes back, Jake,
Everyone comes back At one point, they all do all
do it. Here's the thing, stephen A. And I told

(53:11):
stephen A this to his face. He could think Tony
Bruno and the best day and sports shuff for blowing
him up, because like Tony Bruno, the great godfather of
sports talk radio that we both love, dearly good friend
of ours. Um, he would have stephen A come on
the show all the time, you know, because that's what
he was writing for the Philadelphia Inquirer. So stephen A

(53:33):
got to do with articles. Of course he was in
with I ever sin, so we used to get a
lot of you know, nice school features. Jake Glazier would
say about things are going on in the NBA because
he had everybody here like Shock with Talm stuff called
me with Talm stuff, and um so he blew up
off of that. And then when he came back to Fox,

(53:53):
you know, Um, I would work with him all the
time on different things because he was just you know,
he wasn't really doing the radio thing, but he's he's
getting better at it. So we would sit hours hours
going over schematics, um, planning, fiction, how to talk, how

(54:13):
to do things. And he was very thankful. And that's
why to this day. We've remained friends because I looked
out for him and then when he was like, hey, man,
can you help me put a highlight roil together? So
I put a highlight roll together for him, and then
all of a sudden, I just got signed by ESPN
bro seven figure deal. Turn around me. When I come
to l A. I was like, Oh, when you get

(54:33):
I'll be at the airport wait waiting to catch my
sticking lobster dinner. And I did dinner. That should be
what's the most expensive restaurant in l A. You gotta
you gotta find that. There's my guts, you know how
much money? You're responding, Jake, You're you're a star maker, Jake,
that should be your your nickname. Well that's the funny thing, man,
Like any all the in terms of work under me

(54:55):
A Fox, I've got three Amy winners, so it's like
and I'm Marconi winner, So it's like, come on, man,
what the hell here I am? I can't even win
the People's Choice Award, Podcast Awards dot Com And I
had like stars like you know, advertising and promote and
all that. I have started studying people in the business,

(55:16):
you know, and I still couldn't win. I was tty
something vote shot. Yeah, well, well let me know next year. Well,
tell me about that, remind me, Jake. Well, we'll put
a campaign together to get you the award. Okay, we're
gonna do it. Well, it's just it really is an
honor to be nominated. I've been nominated for six awards. Um.
I was nominated for a couple for Black Podcast Awards

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dot com or something like that. I didn't win that either.
You know, I guess I'm half black. I don't know.
I don't get it, but I'm working on it. Look
at me controversial, like shut up. That's the third round,
my man. That's the third round, Jake, third round, my man.
Come on, man, trying to make it through the podcast
Jake out there. Yeah well yeah, I've been in the

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business a long time too. The only thing I've gotten
I've gotten food dishes named after me. That's why. No awards, No,
not even close. I don't even get nominated for awards.
But I don't know. That's better. I don't have a
cookie name after me. That's it. You have a cookie? Yes? Um?
All right. So one of my childhood friends, her name

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is Jesse Morton or Jesse dollas child. I forget that
she's married but a family. Uh, but she has this
this is a cheap plug. Um. She has a cookie
company called fabruyet the cookies dot Com. And she had
the Big Brother Jake cookie named after me. It's a
chocolate chocolate chip with Riese's peanut buttercup in it. And

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that was an honor for me. I was like, damn,
I got a food name after me. Usually when I
hear my name there's crutch words that proceeded, so you know,
from certain people by life. But but yes, um, so
it's not as tools being in Kansas City and having
some chicken thing is named after you. Been an hour,
you know, I think that's amazing. You know. I started

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to be like you won't day with you know that
I go behind the glass to the microphone side, and
I could get a fan base like the Malin Militia,
which I love to death, and their supported the Big
Brother Day podcast too. You know, at all the old
school p one day, they're like, man, we miss you,
whendn't you coming back? I don't think they made me back?
We want me back. At this point, well no, I

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did it. There was a point where I was like
trying to get you back, and then I didn't. It
didn't work out. I couldn't you know you didn't. You
had something going on, and I, yeah, I wanted to
come back, but circumstances wouldn't allow me to come. Now. Yeah,
there's a lot of bureaucracy, Jake. There's a lot a
lot of red tapeing life. I I gotta wrap this.

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I could do another two hours with you, Jake, but
it must have wrap this exactly, man, listen continued success.
I'm gonna see you at these Clipper games. I'm gonna
get out there once. The Clippers keep changing pr people,
so I'm gonna find out who I need. I don't
even I haven't move bought something there, but I love them.
I love him. I'm not listening him, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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So I gotta I gotta track down who I need
to talk to to get out there. But I will
come out and we'll see you here. I'm going back
to these games. I've been these Dodger games and some
NFL games and whatnot. So Jake, good success and again
the podcast. How can people find the podcast, Jake? How
can they tune in and listen to you all right,
So to find a Big Brother Jake podcast, you know
the podcast one dot com. In the search boxing you

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type in the Big Brother Jake podcast that pops up.
You can do the same but iTunes, Google Play, Spotify,
I Heart Radio. You just type in the Big Brother
Jake podcast and you could find all of my old episodes.
I think I've got a hundred forty four episodes under
my belt and county not gonna stop anytime soon. That's

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where you can find me. Show some love, rate and
review it. Because if you rate and review it, don't
let me keep doing it in a podcast one. So yes,
rate and review. I don't care if you hate the show.
Just give him some traction. There you go, help help
this man out, help my friend the great Jaguar. Thank
you Jake, any time being any time with the pleasure
being on your show, and you know I would want

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to come in and do the regular show anytime you
want me back, brother, I'm so down.