December 10, 2021 • 50 mins
Doc Mike, not a medical doctor, pays a rare and appropriate visit to the Fifth Hour podcast. Doc Mike has been calling the Ben Maller Show for over 20 years from Chicago. Ben peppers Doc with questions about his obsession with Urine Therapy among other more stimulating issues. Ben and Doc Mike go down memory lane about the FIVE presidential elections they have taken part in, goat heads being dropped off before Cubs games at Wrigley Field. Attempting to visit an NFL star at Leavenworth Federal Penitentiary. A dark street with a screw driver in Kansas City at a Maller Militia meet and greet and much more. Follow Doc Mike nowhere, he’s not on social media, his website is wakeupwell.org (enter at your own risk!) Follow Ben on Twitter @BenMaller and listen to the original "Ben Maller Show," Monday-Friday on Fox Sports Radio, 2a-6a ET, 11p-3a PT!
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in December, closer and closer to the end of the
year and the traditional hiatus from all of this broadcasting.
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But it is the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller and
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it if you subscribe to the Fifth Hour podcast, which
is very important, uh, and you enjoy that, and you
also listen to the other podcast, the Ben Mallor Show podcast.
There was a bit of drama. There was a technical snaffoo.
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The last couple of weeks where the Saturday and Sunday
podcast we're not getting posted in the right spot. We
have worked that out, so we have exciting news there. Yes,
the podcast has straightened all that out, so everything should
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be good now. But if you missed some episodes, we
did do the mailbag, and some of you sent me
angry messages. A couple of you were very upset that
the Sunday mail bag you sent a question in there
was no mail bag. Why did you ask for questions?
I didn't. I'm not the king of doshers. I didn't
ask for questions and then not do the podcast. We
did the podcast. But anyway, enough about that. Yeah, that's boring.
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Let's get on now to a surprise appearance on Today
by none other than one of the longest tenured callers
to the Ben Maller Radio show, one of the goofy
Er characters and the Mallard militia. I go way back
with this guy, twenty years of talking randomly sporadically with
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the man, the myth, the legend that is none other
than Doc Mike Docs from Chicago. He has not been
calling the show that much recently because he's been traveling
around the United States and Doc is calling us now
from New Mexico. He's actually he's hanging out there on
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his way to California. He's been all over God's Green
earthier from sea to Shining Sea. And we're gonna talk
with Doc Mike, catch up on many of the great stories.
I'm sure Doc will hijack the show and talk about uh,
drinking urine and all that, but well, at some point
we will get to the famous bloody goat head that
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he dropped off at Wrigley Field, which led to amazing
moments in in my life of doing the show and
a national story that played out with Doc Mike from
wrigley Field, Chicago on Cubs opening days. So I see
him calling in right now. Let's welcome in from the
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roads of New Mexico. We bring in Doc Mike. And Doc.
People have said all kinds of things about you over
the years. I've gotten listeners that have said that Doc
is not real, You're a lizard person, you're this person,
you're that person, you're a paid character on the show,
that you're on the payroll, all kinds of nonsense. So
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let me ask it, Doc Mike, are you a real
human being, absolutely live and in color. Yeah, alright, the
Fox Radio for over twenty years. Well, I know you.
You've been calling the show for for a very long time.
And you go back to the days when we were
on the Score late at night in the in the
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overnight hours, and you started calling, and you were there
when we got banned from Chicago radio for a long
period of time. You you had a role in that. Congratulations, Doc,
You mean Fox being banned, are you? Well? Well, yeah,
well not me, but I part of Fox, so the
whole you know, I was swallowed up with everybody. That's
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a long time ago. That's like fifteen years back. Uh, yeah,
it's been it's been a long time. So you are
not being paid in any way, Doc, There is no
compensation from me. I have not sent you a check.
You've sent me a lot of things in the mail,
but I have not sent you anything. Is that accurate?
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Those were all post paid? Yeah? Yeah. I have multiple
presidential posters. How many elections have we run together in Doc,
you of course as the president, me as your vice
presidential candidate. Uh five five elections. They only do one
of these every four years, Doc, Right, and we're running again.
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I've got the posters in my car right now, heading
for Los Angeles, and in fact, Regina wanted to come
out to Los Angeles and the three of us get
together for dinner. Oh well, there you go. Is she
making a trip? I know she travels a lot. You
and Regina one of the hot items on the show.
You you visited the the Twin Cities a while back
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and you hung out with Regina And yeah about that.
Now you're heading You've you've been all over the country
this year, Doc, you were in the Northeast, You've been
all over the Midwest, obviously being in Chicago, and now
as we're talking, you are on your way to California.
But you're actually in New Mexico. Is that accurate? That's right,
(06:24):
Las Cruises? Yeah? Now why are you? Why are you
in Las Crucis? Doc? What are you doing there? I'm
doing the podcast while you're just passing through. Right. Where
are you coming from? No? Originally, where are you? Where
are you coming from? Elama Gordo. I stayed in Alama
Gordo last night. Alama. I've never even heard of Alama Gordo.
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That's where the first atomic bomb was dropped. I know
you're awful young, but that's you know because on the
Second World War, Well, I am aware of the atomic
I am aware of the atomic bomb. Doc, I have hands.
They say there's a so sited white sands, and they
dropped the bomb there and then they took it to Japan.
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Aren't you concerned? Talk about the still the radiation levels
in that area. Aren't you a little concerned about that?
When you will improve yourself against the environment by drinking
your urine radiation, there's no effect. So so you think
that the urine protects against the nuclear fallout that could
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be in the air everywhere? You believe that. I don't
not only that, but e M f uh COVID the
whole shot. It's it's a liquid gold. And who told
you this, doc? It's been in the research. Go to
look at scripts research from two o two. There's a
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link on my website to it. The ozone is created
uh through antibodies. And they threw out everything they knew
about the immune system in two o two it's grips
and and found that that the major immune system does
not come out for a mosquito bite. You know, that's
like the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, UH, coolest carred
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there's a technique that the body generates ozone and then
creates an antibody on the matrix of the cell. Yeah, well, doc,
you got you Actually gotta speak up, Doc, because I
can barely hear you, which is a very odd to
me that because you're such a loud I know, I
told you to talk in your normal speaking voice before
we began the podcast. But this is, this is unbelievable
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to me. You're talking very low. Now is when's the
last time you got sick? I mean, you called the
show and you you got you got a little sick.
When was the last time you actually got sick? Yeah,
I don't remember, Ben, you don't remember. No. I did
a degree turn in nineteen. Yeah. I had a terrible
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motorcycle accident when I was thirty. Wound up with fibro,
myalergy and chronic fatigue for twenty three years. Because they
told me there was no cause and no cure. Okay,
well I got cured with oxygen therapies and so on.
The therapist that I was working with. Then I went
to the Oxygen school, and I went to reflexology school.
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I teamed up with Dr Turchaninov and Phoenix and started
educating myself in oxygen and ozone therapies, and since then
I've been bulletproof. Yeah, now, what do you say, Dr
and I we've talked about You've called the show and
brought this up. You haven't called us in a while
because you've been on the road here, you've been traveling
and it hasn't worked out. But let me ask you this, Doc, Uh,
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you call up and say this, and inevitably multiple people
will message me and say, what is going on with
this guy? Doc, Mike, there's no he's just pulling this
stuff out of the sky there. What do you say
to that person? Doctor thinks you are looney tones I
mean about urine therapy or ozone and oxygen or just
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well you're in the urine therapy in particular, Doctors many
people that are very troubled by this when you call
up and they blame me. They want me to ban you,
Doc from the from the show, And of course I'm not.
I'm not in the in the banning business. I try
not to ban people. You know, there's a few that
have been banned, but but people get very upset. Doc,
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this very passionate topic. Who knew that drinking your own
piss would be a passionate topic. But people get very
upset when they hear you talk about this doc. Well,
you know, they've got the Internet. I don't, but I
use it as a research tool. It's very, very valuable.
All they've gotta do is go to the Google or
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one of their engines, go in the search by urine
therapy and look at the links and the results or
whatever they call it up in the left hand corner there. Okay,
last time I looked, there was a hundred and eighty
eight million with a m million links. Okay, I've been
all over I've been all over the world with my stuff, Ben,
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you know, from Australia, the Norway, and I can name
the countries in between there. Okay. Every one of these
countries teaches their children you're in therapy. What culture doesn't
I'll help you the U. S. S R. I mean
US S A Okay, and we're going to U. S.
S Ir one of these days. That is that we're
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moving to the with the biggest country on the planet. Yeah. Well,
this is a wild podcast doc here. I'm gonna get
in get a lot of angry email from this podcast.
I've gone over this a number of times with you,
I know, and I a please date it every minute
that I wait for your show. You know. The only
thing that's uh, I like waiting more for is my
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dead the hygienist, Well, your dental hygienist is a little
better looking than I I would be, Doc, But my
my goodness, Now, what about just the possibility me just
throw this out, Doc. You you do for those that
don't know what you look like. And I've met you
several times over the years. You you look amazing, Doc.
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You are unbelievable your physical conditions. Is it possible it's
just because of good genetics and diet. Is that possible, Doc,
that you just won the genetic lottery and that's why
you look so much younger than your age, and that
you just can thank your parents and their parents and
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their parents, and that you just you you one in
that department. Is that at all on the table for you, Doc?
It's probably a part of it, because you know, we're
all a part of our genetics. But lifestyle stress reduction.
I've got uh, three brothers and three sisters. Okay, I'm
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the healthiest of the bunch. They're all into doctors and
stuff like that. Okay they I'm pretty sure they don't
do your ine therapy. Okay, I know that they. Some
of them take pills, a lot of them have had
surgeries and so on. Okay, I'm the youngest. I'm the
oldest boy. I've got an older sister that looks eighty okay. Uh.
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And in the photo which we had not too long ago,
even though one of my brothers is uh on vacation
for a long time. Um, they say say that I
was the youngest looking of the bunch. Okay. Now I
credited to my change of lifestyle, which is three years ago. Okay,
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I was kind of young looking them. I was in
my uh fifties Okay. And I know when when when
people ask me, you know, how come you look so young? Doc,
you don't you know looks I'll be seventy seven next month. Okay, um,
how come you look so young? And my first reply
(14:14):
is good women, it's not it's not genetics, it's uh,
it's making. Whoopie, Doc. That's the key to a healthy
life is the making. Yeah, years ago. There's probably lived
about twenty years ago. I found a book in a
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company and He's library that I worked with for Ozon
an oxygen it was I don't remember the title, but
it was something. It was interested me because it was
something like reverse the aging process or Forever Young or
some peuple like that. And I opened the book to
a chapter on endorphins. Okay, now, uh, you know, one
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of the best ways to activate a hundred trillion of
your endorphins is an active sex life. And I've had
that all my life too. Were you ever married, doc?
Were you ever married? Back here? I have never known
you to be married. You've always kind of been out
and out about enjoying the fruit over that. Sure, that
just take a minute. I was married to my first
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wife for twenty five years. We were both millionaires. Uh
after that, towards the end of our marriage, she wanted
her a million, and I said, okay, here you go.
You know, she divorced me and she got a million
and I got a million. Okay, Well, not long after that,
one of my buddies, his mother, was a matchmaker, and
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she introduced me to my second life. We got married
about a year later on her birthday in Australia. Because
I had a lot of money, we just traveled over
there and got all our permits and everything tied the
knot went up and down the Great Oak Road. Playing
golf was a wonderful program. I was married to her
about five years, and very unfortunately her sister died and
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she lost it. They were very very close. It was
a beautiful relationship and and I just she said, well, okay,
if you want to leave, it's up to you. Because
she started drinking and I think she was doing some
drugs and things like that. She was very depressed. So
we got divorced. Then I had a patient, a model
(16:30):
twenty nine years. I was in my forties and as
this model came in from uh Canada with fibro myalgia,
and I heared her, well, she wanted to be near
Doc Mike, just a case that came back. So she
came back to Chicago. We got married in a green card,
and when after six months you can apply for a
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green card, she got that, paid all the fees and
everything for our divorce and moved on. Beautiful girl, look
at that. So you've been married three times in your
call it two and a half. The third one that
was just yeah, I don't think you're supposed to admit that, doctor,
I don't know that you're supposed to admit that you
did that. I don't know, you know you want to
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get there. Used to be, uh, you could get as
many green cards marriages as you want. But I think
with after nine eleven they put the clamp on it.
And you're married three times or two two and a half.
As you say that, how do you make your money?
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Though you said you had millions of dollars? Did you
inherit the money? Did you? Did you work in business
and make them up? There was some inheritance, but my
wife and I were very frugal. Um for the first uh,
i'd say twenty years of our marriage, I was a
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I'm very talented when it comes to carpentry and this
common sense and we uh uh set up a relationship
with a widow that had a state home and I
was I did all the maintenance, security and so on,
long work and everything there. And we had one bill
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for about eighteen years was our phone bill was seventy
I'll never forget it was seventeen dollars and sixty three
cents a month. That was the only bill. We had
no red and we were both working hard. Um, we
didn't have any kids. We decided we weren't going to
have any kids because we were traveling and we were
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having a ball. So when when the widow died, she
left us some money, but we had already amassed uh
pretty good fortunate at that time. Added it together, we
wounded up with two million dollars in cash and real estate.
I had the rental property, had some farms, had a
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hunt lodge. You were living large, stock you were you
were large and in charge making that kind of money
there with well, but you know, I will say this
dock over the over the years you've been calling show,
you don't seem like at this point you really care
about money that much. You gotta have money, but you
don't seem to really be too obsessed with money, you know.
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And you know, after the state bankrupted me, they I
went through my million in about ten years, you know,
in and out of court with the state, all right.
And I found out at that time that it just
takes a little bit of dough to get to tomorrow.
This morning, as I was riding through the desert, I
saw some guy carrying a half a dozen plastic bags.
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I know he was homeless. And the desert is reasonably
warm here, it's about sixty degrees but he had a
heavy code on and and I don't know if he
slept under a bridge or what. But he's going to
be here today all day, and I'll be here tomorrow too.
And I know he's got a lot of less than
I do. I've got a vehicle, and uh, here I
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am talking to one of the premier radio broadcasters on
the planet. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven p m.
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Well,
thank you. You know, I'm just fascinated by you. Doc.
You started calling the show, and we've had so many
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great moments on the show, and in part of the
Mallard Militia, the magic of the Mallar Militia in those
early days, Doc, when you were my caller from Chicago
and we were we were rocking the radio at night there.
That was back in the steroid era of baseball. But
over the years, just for some people that are new
to the show that don't know some of the great
moments in the past, uh the some of the stories
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I recall, but the goat heads always come up. The
bloody goat beer, the beer for losers, the Cub futility.
And one of my favorite Doc Mike story is for
years you would go somewhere around Wrigley Field and you
would drop off a goat head, a bloody goathhead around
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Wrigley Field. And this was the thing until the Cubs finally,
you know, won the World Series a few years ago.
But uh, and you'd call us up and tell us.
You'd call me up and say, Hey, this is what
I'm gonna do and whatever. You and then you started
calling me while you were doing it. You say, hey, Ben,
I'm outside. You know, I'm outside Wrigley I'm on this street.
You know I'm near the Harry Carry Statue or whatever
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it might be. And so you give me like the
whole blow by blow as it's happening. And this thing
blew up, Doc. And you remember it was the cub
opening day. I think they were playing the Giants, the
San Francisco Giants, and it was raining in Chicago. I
guess started raining yet okay, dropped when it was dry,
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and they canceled the game prior to the rain. Yeah,
so so the Cubs. So the Cubs open day is canceled,
and it's your baseball opening days a big deal and
people kind of move on from baseball until later in
the year, and so so the baseball the baseball writers
needed something to write about. And the headline story all
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over the sports websites and this became like a news
story was that the Cub game was was rained out
and somebody had dropped off a bloody goat head at
the Cub offices. And the funniest part of it was
the mayor of Chicago at the time, Ram Emmanuel, at
a news conference announced on television to the whole world
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that the Chicago Police Department was going to find out
who did this, that there was a top priority with
all the crime going on in parts of Chicago, that
the Mayor of Chicago was going to get to the
bottom of this dock. And I am laughing. I'm like,
wait a minute, I have a voicemail message from Doc
as he was doing it, which I think is incriminating.
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It is, but you you had said, Doc that you
know the you were buddies with the police and all
that they were all there. You know they knew everyone
around Wrigley Field, right, you still do, I think? Well,
you know, the deal was the mayor was arguing with
the rickets, the billionaires that wanted to rip off the
state for about I think it was a hundred three
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hundred seventy five million to Redo Wrigley held. And they were,
you know, in and out of court. They were so
in them. They were trying to get the money. These
are billionaires that had three hundred seventy five million, you know,
his pocket change, okay, because they run that a merrit trade.
The rickets run the merritrade. They're making a billion dollars
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a day. Okay. So they when the when the bloody
go ahead showed up, they accused the mayor of sending it,
and they contacted the mayor's secretary and she said, no,
the mayor sends fish wrapped up. That's the Chicago thing,
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you know, it's sleeping with the fishes. So and and
the story goes that he when he was younger, he
and in politics. He was running some kind of a
campaign and the guy that was in charge of it
lost for that kendidate, so rom sent him a fish
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in a paper bag or wrapped up in some newspaper.
You know, you're going to be sleeping with the fishes.
I never heard this story secretary knew that, so she said, no,
he sends fish. It was somebody else to put the
boat head over there. And of course I know all
the cops around the stadium. They're great bunch of guys.
And you know, they went over there. This guy Brown,
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who was their marketing guy. He was the one that
started it. They didn't give the box with the head
to the Rickets headed addressed at the Rickets. Uh you
know Junior Water his name is, that owns the Cubs.
His father bought it for him because he's a Cub
fan since he was in diapers. Oh you you'd like that,
wouldn't you like to have the Cubs as a trinket
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on your mantle? Oh? Yeah, daddy, So he bought him
the cup. All right. Well, so Brown calls the cops.
They bring the they bring the box to Brown. He
calls the cops. The cops say, excuse me, is this
your first day on the job. Just goes back to
and it looks like this might be doct Mike's work.
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So just like forget about it, you know. Well he
goes and then he then he blows it up, you know,
and they canceled a game. The rain was still in
Iowa when they canceled the game and it didn't rain
that much that night either. Yeah, I remember that. And
so when when you dropped off the box at the
cub office, did they open it up right away or
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did they even know what was at what point were
you even in there? Did you just drop it off
and leave? And I into Gate ten. You know that
there were there were there were fans in the stands
and everything. It was early, you know, it was like
um ten o'clock, eleven o'clock in the morning. Okay, the
game was so for noon. You know Lily Fields of
Day game Joint. You know, they just had night games
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for too many years now, Okay, So the fans were
going in and there's this real sleepy looking guy was
probably one of the rickets, you know, on a on
a coattail over there is had half cocked. You know, look,
I've been drinking all night. And I gave him the
box and he said, who's it from? And I said, um,
it's on the box and he looked and it's been
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inspected USPS. So he's okay, I'll take care of it. Well,
you know was the next thing was they were and
they had my license plates. They had everything on me.
You know. In fact, one one year when I hung
head there, the cops asked me, how why are you
doing this? You know, there's more security here than the
White House because they had me a black way. Yeah,
(27:01):
there's cameras. There's there's cameras all over that place. Yeah,
it's yeah, it's it's like yeah, yeah, alright. So so
we've we've covered the goat heads. Now also, Doc, this
goes back. I want to say, late in the first
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decade of the two thousand's, Michael Vick was a big story.
Michael Vick, the star of the Atlanta Falcons. There was
a federal dog fighting me. He was the most popular
player in the NFL at the time, was on the
cover of the Madden video game. The guy was what
I always thought he was overrated as a player, but
he was. He was a very exciting, very popular player
on the highlight reels and all that. Back that was
(27:44):
in the days before the internet really blew up. And
so one of my favorite Doc Mike stories is you
traveled to Leavenworth, Kansas to have a meeting with Michael Vick,
and you called us up and you were our unpaid
corresponding calling this up from across from the federal prison,
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the penitentiary there whatever you said obviously there in in. Uh, yeah,
you were. You were hanging out and you each day
you said you were there for several days, you went
in and put your name, You tried, you requested a
meeting with Michael Vick. And I remember you doing the
play by play on that doc. That was a fascinating
moment in show history. And uh, because I remember every
(28:31):
day there were little news nuggets coming out about Michael Vick.
But here we were an overnight show and I think
I was doing weekend overnights at that point. And you were,
you were, you were standing outside the prison day after day, Doc,
waiting for that meeting with Michael Vick. Well, the thing was,
you know, I got the inside track from the guards
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there that he wasn't in with the general population. Okay,
they put him in a clinic in a white uniform,
no stripes, and he was I don't know, empty and
trash cans or you know, Washington windows or something in there.
He wasn't with the general population. So he did. And
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of course he's a pretty tough dude. He probably wouldn't
have gotten messed with anyway. You know, they probably wouldn't
been asking for autographs. But um, he had a life
Oreilly over there for his prison term. Yeah. Now when
you you had your little situation with the State of
Illinois which led to your band. Oh cool, listen, Doc,
(29:32):
I can't I can't do the full retrospective on the
podcast here. We we had you on the radio show,
which we'll get you later. During the beginning of COVID
for a full we had the Doc Mike Power Hour,
which was very well received by the way, so hopefully
this podcast will will do well as well. But the
famous story go back to when we were on Overnight
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in Chicago on the Score, which is a massive radio
station which booms all over the Middle part of America,
and it's the people got a complete education on steroids,
that's what. Yeah, because they liked steroids so much, and
there were there were doctors at the Bears that were
administering the steroids and they thought, well, you know, we
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can't have this, you know, we gotta we gotta have
I don't know about all that, but all I know,
Doc is that you you were banned in part of
your punishment from the State of Illinois. Is you could
not call the radio show for how many years? Doc careers?
Two years? And uh? And then I remember, I've given
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you my number, and I tell the story all the time.
I remember I gave you my phone number. Doctors. You
were very concerned about getting ahold of me when the
two years was up, and so I said, listen, Doc,
I never give out my number. This is a very
important thing. This is my phone number. Do not give
this out to anyone. And I said, call me when
the two years is up, and then that's it and
(31:00):
then we're good. And uh, you have called me, Doc
every week at least once a week since that. It
is an amazing Doc. You are a machine, my man,
a machine on the phone. Uh and uh, I get
the whole play by play as I don't really travel
that much anymore, Dock. You know, I'm pretty locked in
(31:22):
in the l A area here. But you know you're invited.
You're invited to Minnesota because Green Bay is not that
far from I know you've got relatives or in the
Green Bay area up there. Yeah, no, I do, I do.
And and the planted with through Minnesota. Well that was
very nice of Regina. No, we have a lot of
We do very well the show in Minnesota. That's one
(31:44):
of the great markets for the show. We do very
well on CA Fan. There's a lot of people that
are up really weird hours in the Twin Cities and
they enjoy the station. And we just happened to be
on the station. It's not really because of our show.
Those that those guys want to have you. Wasn't that
uh some group in Kansas that was an affiliate or
(32:06):
something like that. Oh yeah, well, yeah, we'll get to that, Doc.
That was the Kansas City store. But the Minnesota thing
I I had planned before all these you know, shutdowns
and all that stuff that happened in at the beginning
of I was going to go to Minnesota. That was
my plan. We're gonna have just like we could all
met up there because Regina's you know, yeats, there's no doubt.
(32:29):
Well you know, I happily married man. But yeah, I
thought she's marrying you, Doc. I thought you and her
were an item there Regina and you, well, we got
we got sidetracked a little bit while I was up there.
I understand. I understand. So anyway, that doctor plan is
my brother does live in Appleton, Wisconsin, which is part
of the Green Bank. Yeah. Yeah, So the plan was
actually to come to Chicago and then drive up through
(32:52):
Wisconsin up to Appleton. It's not that you know, you
go to Connie's. Yeah, well of course and uh and
all that, and so then being in in Appleton, we
could cruise down to Minnesota and and find some restaurant
and hang out much like we did in Kansas City
back in the day, Doc, and do a listener meet
and greed I did one. Last one I did was
(33:12):
in Seattle. I've done done in Boston, Pittsburgh, Syracuse. Uh
from your guy from Seattle came to Chicago, Yeah? Which
oh the other yeah East from the Bay Area. Yeah yeah, yeah,
you met him, a big forty Niner fan, right, Yeah?
And you met another did you mean another? We have
another listeners in Chicago, the Chicago area that I think
(33:35):
either met you or wants to meet you. I don't
know if you met him or not, but it's probably
I want to be Yeah, I want to I want
to meet the dock. I want to meet the Doc. Now,
you actually met my wife, Doc before she was my wife.
You in Kansas City. Yeah, and you scared the hell
out of her dock. I gotta tell you that. Yeah. Yeah.
(33:56):
So we we went the unveiling of the ben other
chicken fingers, which Doc drove down from Chicago to Kansas City.
What year was that. That had to be about ten
years ago. I think it was longer than that. Yeah,
I had my house. Yeah, it was a long time ago.
So we went to Kansas City and it was great
jeopardy al was there a lot of the big fans
at that time, big listeners in Kansas City. We had
(34:19):
a guy drive in from North Carolina. You came from Chicago.
It was great, and you set up shop, Doc, and
when you had your own table, you were signing. You
had T shirts. I felt so bad that you had
more stuff to give out than I had. I had nothing.
I just had my my fat ass, as you would say.
I was there and you you were doing your thing,
(34:42):
and it was it was Doc signing autographs. You of
course did not I think we forced you to eat
like one bite of the chicken finger or something like that,
but you didn't want to. You want to know part
of that, Doc, because that's not I don't do anymore
fans fans No sodium chloride, Yeah, yeah, so anyway, so
after the after the appearance, we got done, and this
(35:03):
was in kind of a suburb in the Kansas City area,
but it was at night. By the time we got
done and we were finishing up, the restaurant was closing,
and we walked out, and I think we walked out
with you, and you had said I was with my
my my now wife. It was just my girlfriend, and
you said, hey, I got something for you. And so
it's a dark street in Kansas City, it's late at night,
(35:27):
and I don't really I don't even know Doc. I
don't really know Doc Mike other than from the fact
he called the show and at that point he'd been
a caller for maybe ten years or whatever it is,
or less than that. So Doc's like, hey, I got
something for you. And I'm standing there with my girlfriend
and tactos. He pulls out a a screwdriver. All right,
(35:49):
He's standing up with a screwdriver in a dark street
in Kansas City and says, you wait till you see this.
He then proceeds to walk to the I think it
was the front of the car there and gets down
on his his hands his knees there and proceeds to
take off his license plate from the car and then
(36:12):
give it as a souvenir, which I still have. Doc,
I haven't probably plate here and you that's not the
only I think You've sent me multiple license plates over
the years. But it was. It was a crazy scene, Doc,
because I still have that vision of you say hold on,
I've got something for you, and you're holding up You're
holding up a screwdriver on a on a dark street
in Kansas City and I barely know you, and I'm like,
(36:35):
here we go, here we go, Doc, Mike is going
to shank me on the street. But it turned out.
Of course, you were very kind. Doc. It was fun
and I'm so happy that you were there that night.
It was a great night and we had a lot
of fun meeting listeners and fans of the show and
(36:55):
telling stories. And I want to get back to doing that, Doc,
I gotta get to minnes I gotta get it's an atti. Also,
we got a lot of guys that are big fans
of the show in Cincinnati. That's that's something my to
do list, and so it just bounce around. But I've
done a few of those things in Boston, but Minnesota
at the top Okay, that's not a long drive for
(37:15):
me to Uh So I've got to accommodate. I've got
to accommodate, Doc, Mike schedules. What you're saying, I got
to accommodate the doc is what I've gotta do. And
try to try to get there in the summer too,
so i can play some golf, because there's a beautiful
golf course not too far from where Regia lives. So
I've never I've never spent much time. I've only been
(37:37):
to the airport in Minnesota, like I've never I've changed
flights in Minnesota. I've had layovers in Minnesota, but I've
never actually gone out and say, it looks beautiful from
the plane. It's just lakes everywhere, beautiful lakes and green lakes.
Ten thousand lakes right there. There's actually more than there's
actually more than ten thousand. They just stopped counting at
(37:57):
ten thousand, Doc, because people love, as you know, they
love round numbers. So it's, uh, it's it's very important.
They're very important. And you and Regina, Now this is
a this is a thing here right there's gonna be
on the show here. This is something that might actually happen. Huh, Doc, Absolutely, yeah. Um,
I've been traveling, so it's difficult for me to uh,
(38:20):
you know, get on the show. But um yeah, we're
get this little triangle going you as the preacher and
into Minnesota, Chicago, and back to l A. Be sure
to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays
at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Okay, I love it,
(38:41):
by the way, I have it right in front of me.
I looked it up, Doc. The the state of Minnesota
has eleven thousand, eight hundred forty two lakes of ten
acres or more, but they stopped they say the land
of ten thousand lakes because it's better for marketing. Did
you know, though, Doc, that your your your brothers state there.
You live in Illinois. Up in Wisconsin, they actually have
(39:03):
fifteen thousand and seventy four lakes in Wisconsin, so they
actually have more lakes, and wisconstantly doing Minnesota. But Minnesota,
from a marketing standpoint, a much better marketing plan because
they put that on the license plates and and everything else.
So it's a it's a good job and that by that,
(39:23):
and you love this golf dot Doc, I mean I
don't remember your golfing back in the day. When did
you pick up the golfing? Have you always been a golfer?
Did I not know that part of your life? Doc Mike?
It seems like more recently. You know, when I was
working back in the day, I was working at the bank.
I was a vice president of a bank, and they
said you got to belong to a country club. Well,
(39:45):
I had given up golf when I was about fourteen.
My dad took my brother, two brothers, and I golfing.
He was a real good golfer and we let about
two fourthsomes through us. You know, we're all hitting the
ball about sixty eight feet each time we had tried
to hit the ball. And that's when I gave up golf.
(40:07):
I was a ten letterman in high school, wrestling, basketball, baseball, swimming, track, gymnastics, everything,
and that was my thing. It still is. I still
trained arm wrestlers. So I gave up golf. And then
I when I got to this bank in my banking career,
they told me you got to belong to a country club.
(40:28):
And they two of the directors were members there, so
they pushed me right to the top of the membership list,
no waiting, and I started golfing, and uh, it's an
addictive sport. I've had a hole in one, I've won tournaments.
I taught my first and second wives how to golf.
My second wife was a tournament player when she got
(40:49):
done with it. Never picked up a golf club before.
We've know. Yeah, see my my relationship, doctor, my relationship
with golf. I I wish I was more into it
because a lot lot of business deals. As you reference,
you got into golf because of work. But a lot
of business deals are done on the golf course. And
but I'm a nocturnal person. I'm up all night doing
(41:10):
the radio show, and so I golf is a daytime things.
You can't really play golf at night, Doc, you gotta
be up early in the morning. You don't sleep much though, right,
how many hours of night do you sleep? What are
you talking about? There's blind people that play golf. No.
I I understand you can beat the ball, But I'm
saying golf courses, like you know, there's a lot I
(41:30):
live in l A. There's a lot of golf courses
in l A. But they're not open it. What manny,
you come to Chicago. We got a golf course over
here that's lit at night. It's the Ninth Hole course.
It's like a part three and it's a beautiful range.
Three decks for hitting balls and a grass range. Also,
I go there often. Okay, yeah, we can play you
(41:51):
at night before all right, Well we'll play right now,
have you there's a place in Vegas. You don't go
to Vegas much though, right Vegas has the they have
that I got better use for what little money I have. Yeah, well, no,
you know, you don't have the gamble you can get.
The Vegas used to be cheap. It's not cheap anymore. Though.
The food Vegas used to be cheap. They wanted you
to spend your money gambling. Now that they have like
(42:12):
expensive restaurants and stuff, and it's not You don't get
a lot of ball, well, a lot of a lot
of women, Doc, there's a lot of beautiful women. But
what what happens in Vegas days? In Vegas? Yeah, unless
unless you're an NFL player and commit a terrible crime,
then it does not stay. It does not stay in
(42:35):
Las Vegas. It might get on whatever you call those
h the cameras, you know, Yeah, well you don't have
a smartphone. You've lived, You've lived. I know you're getting
you're getting up there in age now, Doc, But you've
never been a smartphone guy. In fact, you you have
a cell phone, but it's not it's a dumb phone,
not a smartphone. Right. I never will getting back to
(42:55):
that golf. You know, when I got into that country
club and we we uh, we're putting a bank back
on its feet. There was some um, some illegal loans
they made and so on, and uh, the marketing team
myself as a marketing VP, and new president, loan officer,
(43:15):
car car guy, and and some data people and together
we put fifty six million dollars in that bank in
six years. Wow, it's a lot of And at the
end there I belonged to two country clubs I had.
I had the addiction of golf. And you can talk
to any of your Irish friends over there, how addictive
(43:38):
golf is. I mean, you just you gotta have it.
It's uh, well, I like, I like occasionally I'll go
to the driving range and just let off some steam
and hit some balls and things like that. But it is.
If you're bad, Doc, if you're bad at golf, it's
very frustrating. It's not it's not enjoyable to spend three
hours chasing balls into sand traps and losing them in water.
(44:00):
But take up and take a breath. Okay, Craft, it's
the practice game percent practice and play, and then you
really enjoy the game. Did you just tell me to
take a breath of my own podcast? How dare you? Doc? There? You?
I can't believe you started running off over there about
(44:21):
the dead, you know when you when you I really
liked the time after you give your the ten or
fifteen minutes that start the monologue, the maar monololo. Yeah,
then you say okay, and then we'll take our phone calls. Okay,
well your phone calls are for Ben. You know you
you started running over your callers. When I had my
(44:42):
radio show, it was caller driven. That's all we had
was callers, and I listened to these people, you know,
they had their medical problems. That's what it was, you know,
wake up Well show. Yeah, No, I remember, Doc, I
remember the radio show. But here's the thing. They want
everything in modern ration, Doc, it's it's a monologue here,
(45:02):
it's a segment with calls. Here, it's you know, a
segment with Yeah, what do you call it? And there
is there is one second air. Well. The key thing, Doc,
as you know from being in your your radio show,
the key thing is to keep the VU meter moving
(45:23):
because if somebody tunes in and here's dead air, they
move on to the next They're like, Okay, I'm gonna
go find something else listening. Okay, what don't I forgive
you for getting piste off that I'm asking you to
take a breath? No, No, it's I enjoy it. Doc,
It's a drop on the show. You're part of a
lot of sound bites that are gonna be played forever
(45:44):
and ever on the radio show as long as I'm
doing it. Anyway, So what happened? Not? Doc? Hold you
take a breath? All right? So Doc, we were doing this.
You know, this podcast is on a Friday. Here, it's
kind of getting towards mid December. Now, usually by this point, Doc,
Mike is in Ecuador. You are gone. You are out
(46:06):
of the country. I thought you were going to Ecuador. Doc,
are you not going? Did you have a change in
travel plans? Did your itinerary change? I took a bath
on the plane ticket It was about five dollars. They
wanted a twenty four hour nose test. I couldn't get
that guaranteed here in Chicago, so I canceled the flight.
(46:30):
And then I found out that Biden passed a regulation
that if you're not vaccinated and you're coming back to
the States, that you have to have a vaccination to
get back in. So there's that was the end of it.
I'm not getting vaccinated at all. The people are dying
from this thing, and so you would have been banned, Doc,
(46:51):
you would have if if if you had left, and
then you would not figured you know, you didn't know
that President Biden had done that. You would have been
banned from the United States for banned from calling the
radio show. Doctor. You would have been an ex pat.
You would have had to live the rest of your
life in Ecuador, which one you say is not that.
But you seem to enjoy Equador quite a bit. Doc,
You're a big fan. The women down there are absolutely gorgeous,
(47:15):
I'll tell you, especially in the mountains. You know, that's
where my clinic is. And listen to this. The clinic
that I was using all the six years I was
in the Andes there, it was taken over by a
like a child clinic if some They had some therapists
there and they were working with children. So they completely
(47:37):
reoutfited a new clinic for me this year and they're
not gonna You're not gonna be there. There must be
devastated people. And the mayor contacted the nonprofit that I
worked with and told them all about it. You know
how we're waiting for Doc Mike to come back because
I've treated thousands of people in the ten years that
(47:57):
I went to Ecuador. I was five years on the
coast and then six years or five years in the
in the mountains, and you're wonderful people. It's third World.
A lot of people are medicated. We get them off
their drugs there there sugar haulics. We had got them
off their sugars um. I worked with a lot of
children there that had birth defects, and it was just
(48:20):
gave me so much joy to see the recoveries of
these poor people down there. It's nothing like the United States.
And the people are in tremendous shape because nobody has
a car. They're walking everywhere. You see women with two
or three children on the side of the road walking
miles to go shopping. And then walking back with the kids. Yeah,
(48:42):
you know, well, Doc, you should get You should get
rid of your car and walk from New Mexico to California.
You should. That's why that guy that's running, Yeah, that's
that's that could be you, Doc. You just give up
the DOC mobile and you're you're on your way. All right. Listen,
I've kept you long enough, Doc, you must get on
with your travels. I thank you for doing this. I
(49:04):
appreciate it, and to it, I appreciate you. Know. This
is probably one of the longest times I've talked. In fact,
it is probably just went forty five minutes because when
you were in the syndicated into Chicago was max about
a half an hour reading off adverse reactions. Yeah, well,
we have a lot of commercials if we have commercials
on this podcast, Doc, So we have that, but it's
(49:26):
a much different format. But we've we've gone straight through
so you didn't have to hear any of the commercial
stock you had. You had a commercial free experience on
the podcast. And I can't wait till the day that
I can get you married to Regina a nice radio wedding.
You got the form. Iilled it all out for you
with the names. I look forward to completing that. We
(49:49):
need to make it a big event though, Doc, we
have to. I had to a lot some time. I
have to make sure that I don't want to nickel
in down. This is a big wedding here. This is
the first wedding I will have ever done, and on
the radio, so we need to make sure that everything
is all kosher and all that stuff. So anyway, all right, Doc,
thank you appreciate it. We'll catch you on the radio. Thanks. Doc,
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(01:56):
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(02:18):
Let's get on now to a surprise appearance on Today
by none other than one of the longest tenured callers
to the Ben Maller Radio show, one of the goofy
Er characters and the Mallard militia. I go way back
with this guy, twenty years of talking randomly sporadically with
(02:40):
the man, the myth, the legend that is none other
than Doc Mike Docs from Chicago. He has not been
calling the show that much recently because he's been traveling
around the United States and Doc is calling us now
from New Mexico. He's actually he's hanging out there on
(03:04):
his way to California. He's been all over God's Green
earthier from sea to Shining Sea. And we're gonna talk
with Doc Mike, catch up on many of the great stories.
I'm sure Doc will hijack the show and talk about uh,
drinking urine and all that, but well, at some point
we will get to the famous bloody goat head that
(03:25):
he dropped off at Wrigley Field, which led to amazing
moments in in my life of doing the show and
a national story that played out with Doc Mike from
wrigley Field, Chicago on Cubs opening days. So I see
him calling in right now. Let's welcome in from the
(03:49):
roads of New Mexico. We bring in Doc Mike. And Doc.
People have said all kinds of things about you over
the years. I've gotten listeners that have said that Doc
is not real, You're a lizard person, you're this person,
you're that person, you're a paid character on the show,
that you're on the payroll, all kinds of nonsense. So
(04:10):
let me ask it, Doc Mike, are you a real
human being, absolutely live and in color. Yeah, alright, the
Fox Radio for over twenty years. Well, I know you.
You've been calling the show for for a very long time.
And you go back to the days when we were
on the Score late at night in the in the
(04:33):
overnight hours, and you started calling, and you were there
when we got banned from Chicago radio for a long
period of time. You you had a role in that. Congratulations, Doc,
You mean Fox being banned, are you? Well? Well, yeah,
well not me, but I part of Fox, so the
whole you know, I was swallowed up with everybody. That's
(04:57):
a long time ago. That's like fifteen years back. Uh, yeah,
it's been it's been a long time. So you are
not being paid in any way, Doc, There is no
compensation from me. I have not sent you a check.
You've sent me a lot of things in the mail,
but I have not sent you anything. Is that accurate?
(05:18):
Those were all post paid? Yeah? Yeah. I have multiple
presidential posters. How many elections have we run together in Doc,
you of course as the president, me as your vice
presidential candidate. Uh five five elections. They only do one
of these every four years, Doc, Right, and we're running again.
(05:41):
I've got the posters in my car right now, heading
for Los Angeles, and in fact, Regina wanted to come
out to Los Angeles and the three of us get
together for dinner. Oh well, there you go. Is she
making a trip? I know she travels a lot. You
and Regina one of the hot items on the show.
You you visited the the Twin Cities a while back
(06:03):
and you hung out with Regina And yeah about that.
Now you're heading You've you've been all over the country
this year, Doc, you were in the Northeast, You've been
all over the Midwest, obviously being in Chicago, and now
as we're talking, you are on your way to California.
But you're actually in New Mexico. Is that accurate? That's right,
(06:24):
Las Cruises? Yeah? Now why are you? Why are you
in Las Crucis? Doc? What are you doing there? I'm
doing the podcast while you're just passing through. Right. Where
are you coming from? No? Originally, where are you? Where
are you coming from? Elama Gordo. I stayed in Alama
Gordo last night. Alama. I've never even heard of Alama Gordo.
(06:45):
That's where the first atomic bomb was dropped. I know
you're awful young, but that's you know because on the
Second World War, Well, I am aware of the atomic
I am aware of the atomic bomb. Doc, I have hands.
They say there's a so sited white sands, and they
dropped the bomb there and then they took it to Japan.
(07:05):
Aren't you concerned? Talk about the still the radiation levels
in that area. Aren't you a little concerned about that?
When you will improve yourself against the environment by drinking
your urine radiation, there's no effect. So so you think
that the urine protects against the nuclear fallout that could
(07:26):
be in the air everywhere? You believe that. I don't
not only that, but e M f uh COVID the
whole shot. It's it's a liquid gold. And who told
you this, doc? It's been in the research. Go to
look at scripts research from two o two. There's a
(07:49):
link on my website to it. The ozone is created
uh through antibodies. And they threw out everything they knew
about the immune system in two o two it's grips
and and found that that the major immune system does
not come out for a mosquito bite. You know, that's
like the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, UH, coolest carred
(08:13):
there's a technique that the body generates ozone and then
creates an antibody on the matrix of the cell. Yeah, well, doc,
you got you Actually gotta speak up, Doc, because I
can barely hear you, which is a very odd to
me that because you're such a loud I know, I
told you to talk in your normal speaking voice before
we began the podcast. But this is, this is unbelievable
(08:36):
to me. You're talking very low. Now is when's the
last time you got sick? I mean, you called the
show and you you got you got a little sick.
When was the last time you actually got sick? Yeah,
I don't remember, Ben, you don't remember. No. I did
a degree turn in nineteen. Yeah. I had a terrible
(09:04):
motorcycle accident when I was thirty. Wound up with fibro,
myalergy and chronic fatigue for twenty three years. Because they
told me there was no cause and no cure. Okay,
well I got cured with oxygen therapies and so on.
The therapist that I was working with. Then I went
to the Oxygen school, and I went to reflexology school.
(09:25):
I teamed up with Dr Turchaninov and Phoenix and started
educating myself in oxygen and ozone therapies, and since then
I've been bulletproof. Yeah, now, what do you say, Dr
and I we've talked about You've called the show and
brought this up. You haven't called us in a while
because you've been on the road here, you've been traveling
and it hasn't worked out. But let me ask you this, Doc, Uh,
(09:48):
you call up and say this, and inevitably multiple people
will message me and say, what is going on with
this guy? Doc, Mike, there's no he's just pulling this
stuff out of the sky there. What do you say
to that person? Doctor thinks you are looney tones I
mean about urine therapy or ozone and oxygen or just
(10:10):
well you're in the urine therapy in particular, Doctors many
people that are very troubled by this when you call
up and they blame me. They want me to ban you,
Doc from the from the show, And of course I'm not.
I'm not in the in the banning business. I try
not to ban people. You know, there's a few that
have been banned, but but people get very upset. Doc,
(10:31):
this very passionate topic. Who knew that drinking your own
piss would be a passionate topic. But people get very
upset when they hear you talk about this doc. Well,
you know, they've got the Internet. I don't, but I
use it as a research tool. It's very, very valuable.
All they've gotta do is go to the Google or
(10:52):
one of their engines, go in the search by urine
therapy and look at the links and the results or
whatever they call it up in the left hand corner there. Okay,
last time I looked, there was a hundred and eighty
eight million with a m million links. Okay, I've been
all over I've been all over the world with my stuff, Ben,
(11:15):
you know, from Australia, the Norway, and I can name
the countries in between there. Okay. Every one of these
countries teaches their children you're in therapy. What culture doesn't
I'll help you the U. S. S R. I mean
US S A Okay, and we're going to U. S.
S Ir one of these days. That is that we're
(11:36):
moving to the with the biggest country on the planet. Yeah. Well,
this is a wild podcast doc here. I'm gonna get
in get a lot of angry email from this podcast.
I've gone over this a number of times with you,
I know, and I a please date it every minute
that I wait for your show. You know. The only
thing that's uh, I like waiting more for is my
(11:59):
dead the hygienist, Well, your dental hygienist is a little
better looking than I I would be, Doc, But my
my goodness, Now, what about just the possibility me just
throw this out, Doc. You you do for those that
don't know what you look like. And I've met you
several times over the years. You you look amazing, Doc.
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You are unbelievable your physical conditions. Is it possible it's
just because of good genetics and diet. Is that possible, Doc,
that you just won the genetic lottery and that's why
you look so much younger than your age, and that
you just can thank your parents and their parents and
(12:42):
their parents, and that you just you you one in
that department. Is that at all on the table for you, Doc?
It's probably a part of it, because you know, we're
all a part of our genetics. But lifestyle stress reduction.
I've got uh, three brothers and three sisters. Okay, I'm
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the healthiest of the bunch. They're all into doctors and
stuff like that. Okay they I'm pretty sure they don't
do your ine therapy. Okay, I know that they. Some
of them take pills, a lot of them have had
surgeries and so on. Okay, I'm the youngest. I'm the
oldest boy. I've got an older sister that looks eighty okay. Uh.
(13:26):
And in the photo which we had not too long ago,
even though one of my brothers is uh on vacation
for a long time. Um, they say say that I
was the youngest looking of the bunch. Okay. Now I
credited to my change of lifestyle, which is three years ago. Okay,
(13:53):
I was kind of young looking them. I was in
my uh fifties Okay. And I know when when when
people ask me, you know, how come you look so young? Doc,
you don't you know looks I'll be seventy seven next month. Okay, um,
how come you look so young? And my first reply
(14:14):
is good women, it's not it's not genetics, it's uh,
it's making. Whoopie, Doc. That's the key to a healthy
life is the making. Yeah, years ago. There's probably lived
about twenty years ago. I found a book in a
(14:36):
company and He's library that I worked with for Ozon
an oxygen it was I don't remember the title, but
it was something. It was interested me because it was
something like reverse the aging process or Forever Young or
some peuple like that. And I opened the book to
a chapter on endorphins. Okay, now, uh, you know, one
(14:59):
of the best ways to activate a hundred trillion of
your endorphins is an active sex life. And I've had
that all my life too. Were you ever married, doc?
Were you ever married? Back here? I have never known
you to be married. You've always kind of been out
and out about enjoying the fruit over that. Sure, that
just take a minute. I was married to my first
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wife for twenty five years. We were both millionaires. Uh
after that, towards the end of our marriage, she wanted
her a million, and I said, okay, here you go.
You know, she divorced me and she got a million
and I got a million. Okay, Well, not long after that,
one of my buddies, his mother, was a matchmaker, and
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she introduced me to my second life. We got married
about a year later on her birthday in Australia. Because
I had a lot of money, we just traveled over
there and got all our permits and everything tied the
knot went up and down the Great Oak Road. Playing
golf was a wonderful program. I was married to her
about five years, and very unfortunately her sister died and
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she lost it. They were very very close. It was
a beautiful relationship and and I just she said, well, okay,
if you want to leave, it's up to you. Because
she started drinking and I think she was doing some
drugs and things like that. She was very depressed. So
we got divorced. Then I had a patient, a model
(16:30):
twenty nine years. I was in my forties and as
this model came in from uh Canada with fibro myalgia,
and I heared her, well, she wanted to be near
Doc Mike, just a case that came back. So she
came back to Chicago. We got married in a green card,
and when after six months you can apply for a
(16:52):
green card, she got that, paid all the fees and
everything for our divorce and moved on. Beautiful girl, look
at that. So you've been married three times in your
call it two and a half. The third one that
was just yeah, I don't think you're supposed to admit that, doctor,
I don't know that you're supposed to admit that you
did that. I don't know, you know you want to
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get there. Used to be, uh, you could get as
many green cards marriages as you want. But I think
with after nine eleven they put the clamp on it.
And you're married three times or two two and a half.
As you say that, how do you make your money?
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Though you said you had millions of dollars? Did you
inherit the money? Did you? Did you work in business
and make them up? There was some inheritance, but my
wife and I were very frugal. Um for the first uh,
i'd say twenty years of our marriage, I was a
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I'm very talented when it comes to carpentry and this
common sense and we uh uh set up a relationship
with a widow that had a state home and I
was I did all the maintenance, security and so on,
long work and everything there. And we had one bill
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for about eighteen years was our phone bill was seventy
I'll never forget it was seventeen dollars and sixty three
cents a month. That was the only bill. We had
no red and we were both working hard. Um, we
didn't have any kids. We decided we weren't going to
have any kids because we were traveling and we were
(18:39):
having a ball. So when when the widow died, she
left us some money, but we had already amassed uh
pretty good fortunate at that time. Added it together, we
wounded up with two million dollars in cash and real estate.
I had the rental property, had some farms, had a
(18:59):
hunt lodge. You were living large, stock you were you
were large and in charge making that kind of money
there with well, but you know, I will say this
dock over the over the years you've been calling show,
you don't seem like at this point you really care
about money that much. You gotta have money, but you
don't seem to really be too obsessed with money, you know.
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And you know, after the state bankrupted me, they I
went through my million in about ten years, you know,
in and out of court with the state, all right.
And I found out at that time that it just
takes a little bit of dough to get to tomorrow.
This morning, as I was riding through the desert, I
saw some guy carrying a half a dozen plastic bags.
(19:43):
I know he was homeless. And the desert is reasonably
warm here, it's about sixty degrees but he had a
heavy code on and and I don't know if he
slept under a bridge or what. But he's going to
be here today all day, and I'll be here tomorrow too.
And I know he's got a lot of less than
I do. I've got a vehicle, and uh, here I
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am talking to one of the premier radio broadcasters on
the planet. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven p m.
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Well,
thank you. You know, I'm just fascinated by you. Doc.
You started calling the show, and we've had so many
(20:27):
great moments on the show, and in part of the
Mallard Militia, the magic of the Mallar Militia in those
early days, Doc, when you were my caller from Chicago
and we were we were rocking the radio at night there.
That was back in the steroid era of baseball. But
over the years, just for some people that are new
to the show that don't know some of the great
moments in the past, uh the some of the stories
(20:49):
I recall, but the goat heads always come up. The
bloody goat beer, the beer for losers, the Cub futility.
And one of my favorite Doc Mike story is for
years you would go somewhere around Wrigley Field and you
would drop off a goat head, a bloody goathhead around
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Wrigley Field. And this was the thing until the Cubs finally,
you know, won the World Series a few years ago.
But uh, and you'd call us up and tell us.
You'd call me up and say, Hey, this is what
I'm gonna do and whatever. You and then you started
calling me while you were doing it. You say, hey, Ben,
I'm outside. You know, I'm outside Wrigley I'm on this street.
You know I'm near the Harry Carry Statue or whatever
(21:31):
it might be. And so you give me like the
whole blow by blow as it's happening. And this thing
blew up, Doc. And you remember it was the cub
opening day. I think they were playing the Giants, the
San Francisco Giants, and it was raining in Chicago. I
guess started raining yet okay, dropped when it was dry,
(21:53):
and they canceled the game prior to the rain. Yeah,
so so the Cubs. So the Cubs open day is canceled,
and it's your baseball opening days a big deal and
people kind of move on from baseball until later in
the year, and so so the baseball the baseball writers
needed something to write about. And the headline story all
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over the sports websites and this became like a news
story was that the Cub game was was rained out
and somebody had dropped off a bloody goat head at
the Cub offices. And the funniest part of it was
the mayor of Chicago at the time, Ram Emmanuel, at
a news conference announced on television to the whole world
(22:37):
that the Chicago Police Department was going to find out
who did this, that there was a top priority with
all the crime going on in parts of Chicago, that
the Mayor of Chicago was going to get to the
bottom of this dock. And I am laughing. I'm like,
wait a minute, I have a voicemail message from Doc
as he was doing it, which I think is incriminating.
(22:59):
It is, but you you had said, Doc that you
know the you were buddies with the police and all
that they were all there. You know they knew everyone
around Wrigley Field, right, you still do, I think? Well,
you know, the deal was the mayor was arguing with
the rickets, the billionaires that wanted to rip off the
state for about I think it was a hundred three
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hundred seventy five million to Redo Wrigley held. And they were,
you know, in and out of court. They were so
in them. They were trying to get the money. These
are billionaires that had three hundred seventy five million, you know,
his pocket change, okay, because they run that a merrit trade.
The rickets run the merritrade. They're making a billion dollars
(23:41):
a day. Okay. So they when the when the bloody
go ahead showed up, they accused the mayor of sending it,
and they contacted the mayor's secretary and she said, no,
the mayor sends fish wrapped up. That's the Chicago thing,
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you know, it's sleeping with the fishes. So and and
the story goes that he when he was younger, he
and in politics. He was running some kind of a
campaign and the guy that was in charge of it
lost for that kendidate, so rom sent him a fish
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in a paper bag or wrapped up in some newspaper.
You know, you're going to be sleeping with the fishes.
I never heard this story secretary knew that, so she said, no,
he sends fish. It was somebody else to put the
boat head over there. And of course I know all
the cops around the stadium. They're great bunch of guys.
And you know, they went over there. This guy Brown,
(24:48):
who was their marketing guy. He was the one that
started it. They didn't give the box with the head
to the Rickets headed addressed at the Rickets. Uh you
know Junior Water his name is, that owns the Cubs.
His father bought it for him because he's a Cub
fan since he was in diapers. Oh you you'd like that,
wouldn't you like to have the Cubs as a trinket
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on your mantle? Oh? Yeah, daddy, So he bought him
the cup. All right. Well, so Brown calls the cops.
They bring the they bring the box to Brown. He
calls the cops. The cops say, excuse me, is this
your first day on the job. Just goes back to
and it looks like this might be doct Mike's work.
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So just like forget about it, you know. Well he
goes and then he then he blows it up, you know,
and they canceled a game. The rain was still in
Iowa when they canceled the game and it didn't rain
that much that night either. Yeah, I remember that. And
so when when you dropped off the box at the
cub office, did they open it up right away or
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did they even know what was at what point were
you even in there? Did you just drop it off
and leave? And I into Gate ten. You know that
there were there were there were fans in the stands
and everything. It was early, you know, it was like
um ten o'clock, eleven o'clock in the morning. Okay, the
game was so for noon. You know Lily Fields of
Day game Joint. You know, they just had night games
(26:15):
for too many years now, Okay, So the fans were
going in and there's this real sleepy looking guy was
probably one of the rickets, you know, on a on
a coattail over there is had half cocked. You know, look,
I've been drinking all night. And I gave him the
box and he said, who's it from? And I said, um,
it's on the box and he looked and it's been
(26:38):
inspected USPS. So he's okay, I'll take care of it. Well,
you know was the next thing was they were and
they had my license plates. They had everything on me.
You know. In fact, one one year when I hung
head there, the cops asked me, how why are you
doing this? You know, there's more security here than the
White House because they had me a black way. Yeah,
(27:01):
there's cameras. There's there's cameras all over that place. Yeah,
it's yeah, it's it's like yeah, yeah, alright. So so
we've we've covered the goat heads. Now also, Doc, this
goes back. I want to say, late in the first
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decade of the two thousand's, Michael Vick was a big story.
Michael Vick, the star of the Atlanta Falcons. There was
a federal dog fighting me. He was the most popular
player in the NFL at the time, was on the
cover of the Madden video game. The guy was what
I always thought he was overrated as a player, but
he was. He was a very exciting, very popular player
on the highlight reels and all that. Back that was
(27:44):
in the days before the internet really blew up. And
so one of my favorite Doc Mike stories is you
traveled to Leavenworth, Kansas to have a meeting with Michael Vick,
and you called us up and you were our unpaid
corresponding calling this up from across from the federal prison,
(28:07):
the penitentiary there whatever you said obviously there in in. Uh, yeah,
you were. You were hanging out and you each day
you said you were there for several days, you went
in and put your name, You tried, you requested a
meeting with Michael Vick. And I remember you doing the
play by play on that doc. That was a fascinating
moment in show history. And uh, because I remember every
(28:31):
day there were little news nuggets coming out about Michael Vick.
But here we were an overnight show and I think
I was doing weekend overnights at that point. And you were,
you were, you were standing outside the prison day after day, Doc,
waiting for that meeting with Michael Vick. Well, the thing was,
you know, I got the inside track from the guards
(28:51):
there that he wasn't in with the general population. Okay,
they put him in a clinic in a white uniform,
no stripes, and he was I don't know, empty and
trash cans or you know, Washington windows or something in there.
He wasn't with the general population. So he did. And
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of course he's a pretty tough dude. He probably wouldn't
have gotten messed with anyway. You know, they probably wouldn't
been asking for autographs. But um, he had a life
Oreilly over there for his prison term. Yeah. Now when
you you had your little situation with the State of
Illinois which led to your band. Oh cool, listen, Doc,
(29:32):
I can't I can't do the full retrospective on the
podcast here. We we had you on the radio show,
which we'll get you later. During the beginning of COVID
for a full we had the Doc Mike Power Hour,
which was very well received by the way, so hopefully
this podcast will will do well as well. But the
famous story go back to when we were on Overnight
(29:55):
in Chicago on the Score, which is a massive radio
station which booms all over the Middle part of America,
and it's the people got a complete education on steroids,
that's what. Yeah, because they liked steroids so much, and
there were there were doctors at the Bears that were
administering the steroids and they thought, well, you know, we
(30:17):
can't have this, you know, we gotta we gotta have
I don't know about all that, but all I know,
Doc is that you you were banned in part of
your punishment from the State of Illinois. Is you could
not call the radio show for how many years? Doc careers?
Two years? And uh? And then I remember, I've given
(30:39):
you my number, and I tell the story all the time.
I remember I gave you my phone number. Doctors. You
were very concerned about getting ahold of me when the
two years was up, and so I said, listen, Doc,
I never give out my number. This is a very
important thing. This is my phone number. Do not give
this out to anyone. And I said, call me when
the two years is up, and then that's it and
(31:00):
then we're good. And uh, you have called me, Doc
every week at least once a week since that. It
is an amazing Doc. You are a machine, my man,
a machine on the phone. Uh and uh, I get
the whole play by play as I don't really travel
that much anymore, Dock. You know, I'm pretty locked in
(31:22):
in the l A area here. But you know you're invited.
You're invited to Minnesota because Green Bay is not that
far from I know you've got relatives or in the
Green Bay area up there. Yeah, no, I do, I do.
And and the planted with through Minnesota. Well that was
very nice of Regina. No, we have a lot of
We do very well the show in Minnesota. That's one
(31:44):
of the great markets for the show. We do very
well on CA Fan. There's a lot of people that
are up really weird hours in the Twin Cities and
they enjoy the station. And we just happened to be
on the station. It's not really because of our show.
Those that those guys want to have you. Wasn't that
uh some group in Kansas that was an affiliate or
(32:06):
something like that. Oh yeah, well, yeah, we'll get to that, Doc.
That was the Kansas City store. But the Minnesota thing
I I had planned before all these you know, shutdowns
and all that stuff that happened in at the beginning
of I was going to go to Minnesota. That was
my plan. We're gonna have just like we could all
met up there because Regina's you know, yeats, there's no doubt.
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Well you know, I happily married man. But yeah, I
thought she's marrying you, Doc. I thought you and her
were an item there Regina and you, well, we got
we got sidetracked a little bit while I was up there.
I understand. I understand. So anyway, that doctor plan is
my brother does live in Appleton, Wisconsin, which is part
of the Green Bank. Yeah. Yeah, So the plan was
actually to come to Chicago and then drive up through
(32:52):
Wisconsin up to Appleton. It's not that you know, you
go to Connie's. Yeah, well of course and uh and
all that, and so then being in in Appleton, we
could cruise down to Minnesota and and find some restaurant
and hang out much like we did in Kansas City
back in the day, Doc, and do a listener meet
and greed I did one. Last one I did was
(33:12):
in Seattle. I've done done in Boston, Pittsburgh, Syracuse. Uh
from your guy from Seattle came to Chicago, Yeah? Which
oh the other yeah East from the Bay Area. Yeah yeah, yeah,
you met him, a big forty Niner fan, right, Yeah?
And you met another did you mean another? We have
another listeners in Chicago, the Chicago area that I think
(33:35):
either met you or wants to meet you. I don't
know if you met him or not, but it's probably
I want to be Yeah, I want to I want
to meet the dock. I want to meet the Doc. Now,
you actually met my wife, Doc before she was my wife.
You in Kansas City. Yeah, and you scared the hell
out of her dock. I gotta tell you that. Yeah. Yeah.
(33:56):
So we we went the unveiling of the ben other
chicken fingers, which Doc drove down from Chicago to Kansas City.
What year was that. That had to be about ten
years ago. I think it was longer than that. Yeah,
I had my house. Yeah, it was a long time ago.
So we went to Kansas City and it was great
jeopardy al was there a lot of the big fans
at that time, big listeners in Kansas City. We had
(34:19):
a guy drive in from North Carolina. You came from Chicago.
It was great, and you set up shop, Doc, and
when you had your own table, you were signing. You
had T shirts. I felt so bad that you had
more stuff to give out than I had. I had nothing.
I just had my my fat ass, as you would say.
I was there and you you were doing your thing,
(34:42):
and it was it was Doc signing autographs. You of
course did not I think we forced you to eat
like one bite of the chicken finger or something like that,
but you didn't want to. You want to know part
of that, Doc, because that's not I don't do anymore
fans fans No sodium chloride, Yeah, yeah, so anyway, so
after the after the appearance, we got done, and this
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was in kind of a suburb in the Kansas City area,
but it was at night. By the time we got
done and we were finishing up, the restaurant was closing,
and we walked out, and I think we walked out
with you, and you had said I was with my
my my now wife. It was just my girlfriend, and
you said, hey, I got something for you. And so
it's a dark street in Kansas City, it's late at night,
(35:27):
and I don't really I don't even know Doc. I
don't really know Doc Mike other than from the fact
he called the show and at that point he'd been
a caller for maybe ten years or whatever it is,
or less than that. So Doc's like, hey, I got
something for you. And I'm standing there with my girlfriend
and tactos. He pulls out a a screwdriver. All right,
(35:49):
He's standing up with a screwdriver in a dark street
in Kansas City and says, you wait till you see this.
He then proceeds to walk to the I think it
was the front of the car there and gets down
on his his hands his knees there and proceeds to
take off his license plate from the car and then
(36:12):
give it as a souvenir, which I still have. Doc,
I haven't probably plate here and you that's not the
only I think You've sent me multiple license plates over
the years. But it was. It was a crazy scene, Doc,
because I still have that vision of you say hold on,
I've got something for you, and you're holding up You're
holding up a screwdriver on a on a dark street
in Kansas City and I barely know you, and I'm like,
(36:35):
here we go, here we go, Doc, Mike is going
to shank me on the street. But it turned out.
Of course, you were very kind. Doc. It was fun
and I'm so happy that you were there that night.
It was a great night and we had a lot
of fun meeting listeners and fans of the show and
(36:55):
telling stories. And I want to get back to doing that, Doc,
I gotta get to minnes I gotta get it's an atti. Also,
we got a lot of guys that are big fans
of the show in Cincinnati. That's that's something my to
do list, and so it just bounce around. But I've
done a few of those things in Boston, but Minnesota
at the top Okay, that's not a long drive for
(37:15):
me to Uh So I've got to accommodate. I've got
to accommodate, Doc, Mike schedules. What you're saying, I got
to accommodate the doc is what I've gotta do. And
try to try to get there in the summer too,
so i can play some golf, because there's a beautiful
golf course not too far from where Regia lives. So
I've never I've never spent much time. I've only been
(37:37):
to the airport in Minnesota, like I've never I've changed
flights in Minnesota. I've had layovers in Minnesota, but I've
never actually gone out and say, it looks beautiful from
the plane. It's just lakes everywhere, beautiful lakes and green lakes.
Ten thousand lakes right there. There's actually more than there's
actually more than ten thousand. They just stopped counting at
(37:57):
ten thousand, Doc, because people love, as you know, they
love round numbers. So it's, uh, it's it's very important.
They're very important. And you and Regina, Now this is
a this is a thing here right there's gonna be
on the show here. This is something that might actually happen. Huh, Doc, Absolutely, yeah. Um,
I've been traveling, so it's difficult for me to uh,
(38:20):
you know, get on the show. But um yeah, we're
get this little triangle going you as the preacher and
into Minnesota, Chicago, and back to l A. Be sure
to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays
at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Okay, I love it,
(38:41):
by the way, I have it right in front of me.
I looked it up, Doc. The the state of Minnesota
has eleven thousand, eight hundred forty two lakes of ten
acres or more, but they stopped they say the land
of ten thousand lakes because it's better for marketing. Did
you know, though, Doc, that your your your brothers state there.
You live in Illinois. Up in Wisconsin, they actually have
(39:03):
fifteen thousand and seventy four lakes in Wisconsin, so they
actually have more lakes, and wisconstantly doing Minnesota. But Minnesota,
from a marketing standpoint, a much better marketing plan because
they put that on the license plates and and everything else.
So it's a it's a good job and that by that,
(39:23):
and you love this golf dot Doc, I mean I
don't remember your golfing back in the day. When did
you pick up the golfing? Have you always been a golfer?
Did I not know that part of your life? Doc Mike?
It seems like more recently. You know, when I was
working back in the day, I was working at the bank.
I was a vice president of a bank, and they
said you got to belong to a country club. Well,
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I had given up golf when I was about fourteen.
My dad took my brother, two brothers, and I golfing.
He was a real good golfer and we let about
two fourthsomes through us. You know, we're all hitting the
ball about sixty eight feet each time we had tried
to hit the ball. And that's when I gave up golf.
(40:07):
I was a ten letterman in high school, wrestling, basketball, baseball, swimming, track, gymnastics, everything,
and that was my thing. It still is. I still
trained arm wrestlers. So I gave up golf. And then
I when I got to this bank in my banking career,
they told me you got to belong to a country club.
(40:28):
And they two of the directors were members there, so
they pushed me right to the top of the membership list,
no waiting, and I started golfing, and uh, it's an
addictive sport. I've had a hole in one, I've won tournaments.
I taught my first and second wives how to golf.
My second wife was a tournament player when she got
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done with it. Never picked up a golf club before.
We've know. Yeah, see my my relationship, doctor, my relationship
with golf. I I wish I was more into it
because a lot lot of business deals. As you reference,
you got into golf because of work. But a lot
of business deals are done on the golf course. And
but I'm a nocturnal person. I'm up all night doing
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the radio show, and so I golf is a daytime things.
You can't really play golf at night, Doc, you gotta
be up early in the morning. You don't sleep much though, right,
how many hours of night do you sleep? What are
you talking about? There's blind people that play golf. No.
I I understand you can beat the ball, But I'm
saying golf courses, like you know, there's a lot I
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live in l A. There's a lot of golf courses
in l A. But they're not open it. What manny,
you come to Chicago. We got a golf course over
here that's lit at night. It's the Ninth Hole course.
It's like a part three and it's a beautiful range.
Three decks for hitting balls and a grass range. Also,
I go there often. Okay, yeah, we can play you
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at night before all right, Well we'll play right now,
have you there's a place in Vegas. You don't go
to Vegas much though, right Vegas has the they have
that I got better use for what little money I have. Yeah, well, no,
you know, you don't have the gamble you can get.
The Vegas used to be cheap. It's not cheap anymore. Though.
The food Vegas used to be cheap. They wanted you
to spend your money gambling. Now that they have like
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expensive restaurants and stuff, and it's not You don't get
a lot of ball, well, a lot of a lot
of women, Doc, there's a lot of beautiful women. But
what what happens in Vegas days? In Vegas? Yeah, unless
unless you're an NFL player and commit a terrible crime,
then it does not stay. It does not stay in
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Las Vegas. It might get on whatever you call those
h the cameras, you know, Yeah, well you don't have
a smartphone. You've lived, You've lived. I know you're getting
you're getting up there in age now, Doc, But you've
never been a smartphone guy. In fact, you you have
a cell phone, but it's not it's a dumb phone,
not a smartphone. Right. I never will getting back to
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that golf. You know, when I got into that country
club and we we uh, we're putting a bank back
on its feet. There was some um, some illegal loans
they made and so on, and uh, the marketing team
myself as a marketing VP, and new president, loan officer,
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car car guy, and and some data people and together
we put fifty six million dollars in that bank in
six years. Wow, it's a lot of And at the
end there I belonged to two country clubs I had.
I had the addiction of golf. And you can talk
to any of your Irish friends over there, how addictive
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golf is. I mean, you just you gotta have it.
It's uh, well, I like, I like occasionally I'll go
to the driving range and just let off some steam
and hit some balls and things like that. But it is.
If you're bad, Doc, if you're bad at golf, it's
very frustrating. It's not it's not enjoyable to spend three
hours chasing balls into sand traps and losing them in water.
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But take up and take a breath. Okay, Craft, it's
the practice game percent practice and play, and then you
really enjoy the game. Did you just tell me to
take a breath of my own podcast? How dare you? Doc? There? You?
I can't believe you started running off over there about
(44:21):
the dead, you know when you when you I really
liked the time after you give your the ten or
fifteen minutes that start the monologue, the maar monololo. Yeah,
then you say okay, and then we'll take our phone calls. Okay,
well your phone calls are for Ben. You know you
you started running over your callers. When I had my
(44:42):
radio show, it was caller driven. That's all we had
was callers, and I listened to these people, you know,
they had their medical problems. That's what it was, you know,
wake up Well show. Yeah, No, I remember, Doc, I
remember the radio show. But here's the thing. They want
everything in modern ration, Doc, it's it's a monologue here,
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it's a segment with calls. Here, it's you know, a
segment with Yeah, what do you call it? And there
is there is one second air. Well. The key thing, Doc,
as you know from being in your your radio show,
the key thing is to keep the VU meter moving
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because if somebody tunes in and here's dead air, they
move on to the next They're like, Okay, I'm gonna
go find something else listening. Okay, what don't I forgive
you for getting piste off that I'm asking you to
take a breath? No, No, it's I enjoy it. Doc,
It's a drop on the show. You're part of a
lot of sound bites that are gonna be played forever
(45:44):
and ever on the radio show as long as I'm
doing it. Anyway, So what happened? Not? Doc? Hold you
take a breath? All right? So Doc, we were doing this.
You know, this podcast is on a Friday. Here, it's
kind of getting towards mid December. Now, usually by this point, Doc,
Mike is in Ecuador. You are gone. You are out
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of the country. I thought you were going to Ecuador. Doc,
are you not going? Did you have a change in
travel plans? Did your itinerary change? I took a bath
on the plane ticket It was about five dollars. They
wanted a twenty four hour nose test. I couldn't get
that guaranteed here in Chicago, so I canceled the flight.
(46:30):
And then I found out that Biden passed a regulation
that if you're not vaccinated and you're coming back to
the States, that you have to have a vaccination to
get back in. So there's that was the end of it.
I'm not getting vaccinated at all. The people are dying
from this thing, and so you would have been banned, Doc,
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you would have if if if you had left, and
then you would not figured you know, you didn't know
that President Biden had done that. You would have been
banned from the United States for banned from calling the
radio show. Doctor. You would have been an ex pat.
You would have had to live the rest of your
life in Ecuador, which one you say is not that.
But you seem to enjoy Equador quite a bit. Doc,
You're a big fan. The women down there are absolutely gorgeous,
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I'll tell you, especially in the mountains. You know, that's
where my clinic is. And listen to this. The clinic
that I was using all the six years I was
in the Andes there, it was taken over by a
like a child clinic if some They had some therapists
there and they were working with children. So they completely
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reoutfited a new clinic for me this year and they're
not gonna You're not gonna be there. There must be
devastated people. And the mayor contacted the nonprofit that I
worked with and told them all about it. You know
how we're waiting for Doc Mike to come back because
I've treated thousands of people in the ten years that
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I went to Ecuador. I was five years on the
coast and then six years or five years in the
in the mountains, and you're wonderful people. It's third World.
A lot of people are medicated. We get them off
their drugs there there sugar haulics. We had got them
off their sugars um. I worked with a lot of
children there that had birth defects, and it was just
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gave me so much joy to see the recoveries of
these poor people down there. It's nothing like the United States.
And the people are in tremendous shape because nobody has
a car. They're walking everywhere. You see women with two
or three children on the side of the road walking
miles to go shopping. And then walking back with the kids. Yeah,
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you know, well, Doc, you should get You should get
rid of your car and walk from New Mexico to California.
You should. That's why that guy that's running, Yeah, that's
that's that could be you, Doc. You just give up
the DOC mobile and you're you're on your way. All right. Listen,
I've kept you long enough, Doc, you must get on
with your travels. I thank you for doing this. I
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appreciate it, and to it, I appreciate you. Know. This
is probably one of the longest times I've talked. In fact,
it is probably just went forty five minutes because when
you were in the syndicated into Chicago was max about
a half an hour reading off adverse reactions. Yeah, well,
we have a lot of commercials if we have commercials
on this podcast, Doc, So we have that, but it's
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a much different format. But we've we've gone straight through
so you didn't have to hear any of the commercial
stock you had. You had a commercial free experience on
the podcast. And I can't wait till the day that
I can get you married to Regina a nice radio wedding.
You got the form. Iilled it all out for you
with the names. I look forward to completing that. We
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need to make it a big event though, Doc, we
have to. I had to a lot some time. I
have to make sure that I don't want to nickel
in down. This is a big wedding here. This is
the first wedding I will have ever done, and on
the radio, so we need to make sure that everything
is all kosher and all that stuff. So anyway, all right, Doc,
thank you appreciate it. We'll catch you on the radio. Thanks. Doc,
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