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March 21, 2025 • 25 mins
Hap Erstein with PalmBeachArtsPaper.com reviews:

"Alto Knights"
"Disney's Snow White"
"Midas Man"

Honorable mentions:

"Ash"
"Locked"
"Magazine Dreams"
Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Joel Malcolm for w J and O dot com,

(00:02):
and we are talking movies. You've got the movie Guy
Happerstine from ponmy chartspaper dot com. Pretty big, pretty big weekend.
One movie's expected to bomb, the other one stars one
guy playing two parts. But I don't want to steal
your thunder, So tell us what's.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Happening to go? You know about this stuff? Very good?

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
The Alto Knights, a true crime grama about the rise
and the ultimate decline of the mafia, is, in my opinion,
the best Martin Scorsese movie that Scoresace never made. In fact,
it's directed by Barry Levinson, a TRIFC filmmaker of such
movies as Diner and rain Man from decades ago, and

(00:42):
he's now got sort of a comeback for him with
this poop movie. The reason it feels like a scor
Sase movie is the screenplay is by a guy named
Nicholas Palagi, crime reporter turnscripted Bright Fellas, who wrote Goodfellas
and Casino for Scoresce. It's fair to say that they also.
Knights is the third of his organized crime trilogy. At

(01:05):
Score is a few between mob bosses Frank Costello and
Vito Genovesi and the gimmick, well, it begins as a gimmick,
but I think gradually works is that both men are
played at this by Robert de Niro with the best role,
at least roles he's had in years. Of course, there's

(01:26):
plenty of violence blood this gunfire, but eleven Sinson it
gives the epic story a muted feeling, a very chilling choice.
Levenson gets the period looked down right. The dialogue is
crisp in all except the gripping two hours of filmmaking.
I think it opens well at theaters and probably will
stick around for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
A few years ago this would have been a two
and a half to three hour movie, right, absolutely right.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
They made you said too nicely.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
When you said, no, what I'm just saying, When you
said two hours, I was kind of surprised with Then
I realized, I mean even Captain America was under two hours.
Because those movies, those comic book movies, they had gotten
like way out of control, and I guess people people
have spoken up. It's not that they're hurting for money,
because those movies, you know, typically will make money. Most
of those the Marvel ones anyway. But but but I

(02:16):
think a lot of the fans are just like, yeah,
it's just too much. This is too long for something
like this.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
So and maybe they're leanding on the directors to you know,
get get a little better editing.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Well, James, if James Cameron was doing it for forget it,
you'd get all the stuff. He didn't do that right anyway,
you know, in this this looks, this looks decent. Here's
the thing we need to point out to folks that
are not familiar with the Frank Costello name, and maybe
they go, hey, Frank Costello, wasn't that Jack Jack Jack
Nick No, Jack Nicholson played Frank Costello when they departed,

(02:49):
completely different, completely different character. So, uh, in fact, he
was inspired that character was inspired by what was that movie?
White mass What we the Uh? What was the name
of the the real life mobster? I forget that, I
forget his name, but that's who he's kind of inspired by.
But it's not that was actually just a remake of

(03:10):
a foreign film.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Uh. Joan asked me questions.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
I don't know the answer. Yeah, I can't remember the
name mobsters names or not. Don't don't take up a
big part of my frontal lobe. But uh, you know,
I get mad at DeNiro frequently politically, just because he's
just a big and he's a bit nuts with with
that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
But if this thing came out in November December, he
would absolutely get an Oscar nomination.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
He's really toughly good, and you know, this is the thing.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
But there are times that he he's on the screen
for himself. At times he's sort of trying to assassinate himself. Uh,
it's it's it's really well done.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Franks one of those guys that I want to say, Ah,
screw him. I'm not going to go see it. But
I mean the movies, you know, when he makes a
movie like this, it's it looks good, Nicholas leg however
you say it, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, Alegi, Yeah, Denaris made some bad movies lately, but
this is him back at his strength.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
But even as bad movies, they're comedies and they're they're funny,
They're stupid funny. He did the one with Sebastian Maniscalco.
I think, how do you say his name? I don't know,
the comedian who wrote the movie about his life, and
he played the father and that was a hilarious movie.
I mean, maybe not a crazy I thought it was
really funny.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
I think it cheapens his legacy. Frankly, he's got to
make good movies and comedy is not really his thing.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Uh, analyze this, analyze that. I mean, those were huge movies.
Maybe you didn't like them, but they were huge, huge.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Analyzis was awfully good. Jumped the Shark.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Of course Billy Crystal probably carried that a little bit
too for him.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Absolutely absolutely, But yeah, what about meet the parents and
meet the beepers?

Speaker 1 (04:55):
The first Meet the parents are good and they jumped
the shark at they should have just left it at
the first one, the meet the or the meat the Yeah,
meet the parents and then it was meat. There were
there were three and then there's the one was horrible.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
A lot of bad decisions there anyway.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Also, Nights is a watch for me. I definitely. I
forgot that was coming out so soon, So definitely on
my radar. And uh, Nicholas PELEGI am I saying it right?
You know good Fellas. When people ask what your favorite
movie is, I always Good Fellas. I used to say
top five, and I've just pretty much switched it up

(05:34):
and said that's it. It's hard to say, you know,
number one.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
On your you often put it above The Godfather, don't you.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Well, I you know, I've never watched the whole Godfather.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Oh right, I forget. Yeah, that's one of your key
failings and.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Movies an attention span issue. I know everybody gets on
me about it. I'm gonna have to at one point
just sit and watch it. But it's so dated now,
so I don't know, but uh, hold up very well.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
I like how score wait for a good snowstorm down
here and then put it on.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, Scorsese just he keeps movies going with the music
and all that. I don't obviously this is not a
Scorsese film, but Levinson's note it feels like it. Levinson's
no hack, so you know, right.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
But it's been a while since he's had a good film,
a truly a comeback for him.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
I can't remember his more recent ones, but I can
think about that while you're talking about the next movie,
because I have no interest in it.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Well, unfortunately you should. For the best best decade or so,
Disney's been cannibalizing its animation vault with live action, well
sort of live action. Remakes of such classics as Being
the Beast, Little Mermaid, Lion King Mulan, et cetera. Now,
none of these has been as good as the cartoon originals,
but they've been close enough to help fill the studio's

(06:46):
coffers and keep a lot of people employed. Now comes
the remake of the one that started it all, Disney's
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, the full length animated feature,
the very first one from the Disney studio. Now for starters,
the Dwarfs get dropped from the title. This one's just
called snow White, though the Dwarfs are very much These

(07:08):
mine workers are very much in evidence, and they had
just they arrived from some pretty slick computer imagery. They're
not real, they're just computerized. But I think that actually
the Dopey looks exactly like Alfred y Newman, if that
means anything to you. But it's well done. Film gets

(07:29):
into trouble long before it opened, though, because Rachel Ziegler,
the very spunky snow White, she posted on social media
some negative comments about the original movie and Israel's Galagado,
she plays the evil queen. She got all tangled up
with views on Middle East so a lot of people
were ready to hate this movie, but it's actually not

(07:52):
a bad film. Director Mark Webb, he made a couple
of the Spider Man movies, attempts to bring snow White
into contemporary times. Instead of a helpless female in need
of a prince's kiss to awaken her and rescue her,
she's now a can do warrior in her own right now.
Maybe that's not an improven in some eyes, but it

(08:13):
does take a lot of time to get to there
to sell it. There's not much pot action to Snow White,
but somehow it's about fifteen minutes longer than the animated film,
padded with some nice songs BENJ. Passek and Justin Paul.
They're the songwriters of La La Land and the Greatest Showmen.
They add some new tunes, including Snow's empowerment number Waiting

(08:38):
on a Wish, which is absolutely oscurbait. But don't be
surprised if in the long run, well the songs that
get stuck in your head of the original's high ho
and Whistle while you work. Now, Zigo's quite good at
snow White good. Oh no, not so much. She comes
off as kind of another computerized generated character Frankly, Andrew
Burnout as fine as snow White. It's Lovenges definitely not

(09:01):
a Prince Charming, you know, all it's not a terrible remake,
but not up to thirty seven original.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
You don't care, I know, no, it's just it may
be the best movie that nobody will see. Not nobody,
I mean he expecting it to.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Fix a lot of people have to get beyond all
this this squabbling off screen to realize what the movie
there is. You know, again, they've never really improved on
the animated originals with any of these movies.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Right right, Are they trying to improve on them or
are they just trying to do live actions.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
They're making changes, many of them are trying to bring
it up to contemporary sensibilities. Kind of woke Frankly, and
that's that's the issue. They're trying to get to contemporary tastes.
I think it's a mistake.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Well, it's interesting. She has a male lovenge tress, so
at least they're not making her gay, so that's you know,
that's good being Disney.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Well, you know she's done sleep with these seven little
little guys, so it's a good thing that.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Now do that? Are they referred to move on. Are
they actually referred to as dwarfs in the movie because
the little people in Hollywood are apparently, you know, they're
back with a vengeance. They're like picketing this movie.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Apparently Peter Dinklic you know who is our our best
little person actor has some problems with them.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Maybe there's been a group of a group of them.
I didn't realize there were so many, but apparently they've
been a lot of them are now you know, we're
you know, this is an uproar. It's not just him.
He led the way, of course, right, he has some
he has some points. I mean, it's fair what he
what he said, and this was a year or two ago, and.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
You know that was without seeing the movie. It's just
the whole idea. He doesn't like snow White, and I
do not like snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, and you short people, maybe you know, I don't know,
so listen, just changing the subject. I'd looked up Barry
Levinson and ignored you while you were talking about snow White.
I've ignt go ahead, and uh, well, I see a
bunch of stuff I never heard of. He did it.
First of all, Barry Levinson has directed a lot some TV,
quite a bit of TV dope, Sick, a couple of

(11:20):
episodes of that Shades of Blues.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
I don't think that's by his choice. I think he
just couldn't get his filmy Greenlitu.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
He did a Joe Paterno movie I never knew about.
Oh it was a TV movie. Okay, Paterno, let's see.
I'm just I'm not giving everything, but I'm looking at stuff.
There was a movie, is that al Pacino? You don't
know Jack, Yeah, al Pacino and John Goodman twenty ten.
It was a TV movie. So he's done a lot
of Okay, the last one I can remember that was

(11:53):
in theaters from him eight and you know who starred
in it, Robert de Niro, but only as one person. Uh,
what just happened? I don't remember the movie that much,
but two weeks in the life of a fading Hollywood
producer having a rough time trying to get his new
picture made. This is back in eight. I remember going
to be biographical. Yeah, I remember it being somewhat interesting,

(12:14):
and you had Stanley.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
As an Oscar winning director, Mason great Great Films early
on and then kind of got lost.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
He also did uh six Man of the Year with
Robin Williams.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
That wasn't a terrible movie. No.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
The one that also strikes out to me is four.
I remember seeing this and this didn't do too well.
Ben Stiller and Jack Black, Rachel weiss Envy, you've seen it.
I'm sure you've seen it. It's yeah, it's the.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Years ago.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
It was four. Yeah. Yeah, So I'm just kind of
going through here. Liberty Heights. I didn't realize there was
a Liberty Heights before there was a Liberty Heights is not.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Liberty Heights is like a part of his Baltimore series
with Avalon, which is a super film.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, Avalon, I remember Avalon, Like an Avalon. Wag the
Dog was a ninety seventh political picture. Wasn't bad. The
nero in that often that was.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
That was that was really fastly made. Yeah, that was good.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Uh, Sleepers, Sleepers one of the you know, we're back
in the we're back in the nineties here, Sleepers was
a decent movie. Toys with Robin Williams. We'll forgive him
for that one. It was Robin Williams. Uh, Bugsy with
Warren Beatty.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
That's a good film.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
See now we're now, we're hitting, we're heading towards the hour.
Of course, as a father of an autistic rain man,
one of my probably my favorite Barry Levinson movie, uh,
ten men, ten Men was a good movie.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
De Vido.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
He's a car sales, car dealer.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, yeah again Baltimore and uh and diner.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Diner, Diners where he got it all? Yeah, that's where
he got it all started with diner. Yeah, the Natural
the baseball picture. Really I forgot that was Robert Redford,
Robert absolutely and Wild Brimley. You check based on your sugars,
are you? Chucklem Alfin Wilford Brimley rest in peace? All right? Uh,

(14:20):
now that we're now that we've read Robin Robin Williams.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
And now we killed off lots. That's his entire career
we've gone through. So let's get to art. Okay. If
you were a big Beatles fan like I am, no
I am, you'll want to see my arthouse pick this week.
It's called midas Man, low budget independent biography of the
Fab four. His manager Brian Epstein, who was the fifth Beatle.

(14:45):
Now I like the title title character of mythology. Epstein
had a golden touch when it came to marketing and promotion,
so when he stumbles onto a scruffy band in a
Liverpool club, he saw the potential for cleaning them up
and they're in a into an international phenomenon. But Epstein
himself was a troubled soul, the large stemming of the

(15:06):
fact that he was gay, which was a crime in
England throughout his life, which it ended pretty early in
nineteen sixty seven. Jacob fortune Lloyd does a remark reasonably
good job of portraying Epstein, despite the fact that he
doesn't really look much like him, and the screenplay joy
just scratches the surface of his story. The harder casting

(15:26):
of the Beatles themselves actually comes up a little better,
largely because the actors impersonating them are unknown, at least
to me. The real problem with the movie is that
it couldn't afford the rights to the Beatles' music, or
maybe just couldn't ge permission to any of them anyway,
so that's a major hole in the film, and minus
Man has a bumpy production history, going through a couple

(15:49):
of other directors before it got to Joe Stevenson, who
finishes the deal. But it just feels uneven because it
is and kind of impersonal. Still it's about the Beatles,
and even from that viewpoint of the fifth Wheel, so
fans will want to just make sure they take a
look at it. You can catch it the movies of
Lake Worth, the movies of del Rey beginning this weekend.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, I'm a huge Beatles fan and I wish they
could put this in just one screen on the Treasure Coach.
Just put it on one screen for one day. I'll
make it there.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
But you know, if you ask them nicely, they probably will.
And it doesn't make though they well, they're not going
to get any money from you because you've got that.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Well, it doesn't have to be a regal. It could
be one of the other ones. You could put it
at the Stewart.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
We're willing to pay money for this. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, I'm a Beatles fan. I'm interested in it. Now.
Here's the thing. I'm not expecting it to be a
great movie based on what you're saying. And the other
thing is, what was the last movie made about you know?
Of music? Well, no about hang on about a music
based based on the life of a oldies act or artist, or,

(17:01):
at least in this case, their wife, and they didn't
get the rights to that music, and they did that,
and that movie bombed, and of course it was This
one's only in two screens locally, so it's not gonna
you know, they're not expecting to make a ton anyway. Priscilla,
is what I'm getting at. Priscilla did the same thing.
They had no Elvis music in it, not one el Elvis,
not one Elvis song.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Had a much better budget than this movie does.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Interesting. Yeah, that wasn't a bad movie, by the way.
I don't know how true it was, you know, or whatever,
but apparently.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
I think it bent to a lot of the facts,
but probably the press of the organization.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Entertaining movie, entertaining movie, decent movie, decent acting. The Elvis
guy that, you know, wasn't I'll take Kurt Russell in
his prime as Elvis before before that guy. Wait, you know,
they may.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Have looked at him that he's a good Elvis.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
You yeah, all right, Minus man, maybe it's maybe it's
worth a tread. Well, it'll be streaming at some point somewhere.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Of course, of course, maybe I'll just wait. It's not
something you need to see on the big screen. I
think everything should be seen on the big screen, but
it doesn't need.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
It all right, Speaking of the big screen, anything on
the horizon.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Well, there's a film called The Amateurs with Romi Mallik,
sort of a action thriller. I think that's next week.
That's being touted a lot, and that's pretty much the
main one I think for next week. Nothing else comes
to mind.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Let's see, there's a couple other movies. A couple other movies.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Pack a lunche and go drive down and see My
Just Man.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
A couple other movies at theaters this weekend. I want
to give them honorable mentions really quick, got ash. This
has built a horror sci fi fantasy. Tell me when
you've heard this before. When a woman makes up, wakes
up on a distant planet, finds the crew for Super
Wow space station rather viciously killed, she must decide if
she can trust the man sent to rescuer. But as

(19:03):
their investigation into what happens sets in motion a terrifying
chain of events, he begins to wonder how innocent she
really is.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Who's the villain there?

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Okay, yeah, let's see, let's see what else we got.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
I'll pass.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
I gotta scroll up, hang on all right, locked, what
is locked? Let's see? Oh you know, oh this one.
Actually I just saw the trailer for this. I didn't
realize it was out already, so there's This is interesting
because there's no written synopsis here, so I've got to
go on what I remember seeing in the trailer. Bill
Scars Guard is in this. The most recent pennywas actor. Anyway,

(19:45):
this is essentially this looks like a low budget film.
Anthony Hopkins' voice is in this, and then he shows
up towards the end. So Bill Scars Guard plays Eddie Barrish,
and based on the trailer, he breaks into cars, well,
he breaks into the wrong car. Now this is not
only a self driving car, but the windows are impenetrable

(20:07):
and he is locked inside the car and the voice
comes on and basically he's being tortured in the car
but not killed. And you're listening to the voice in
the trailer, You're like, that's Anthony Hopkins, and it surely is,
because then at the end of the movie, here's Andthon
Hopkins showing up outside the car. So I don't know

(20:28):
how it ends, of course, but it is built as horror,
suspense thriller. I don't think it's much horror, but I
think suspension.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Likeycheck for Anthony Hopkins.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yes, but the car's guards are good. He's a good actor.
It's just most of it looks like it takes place
inside the car. Some people can't handle that. What was
the movie that Ryan Reynolds did where he was in
the coffin the whole movie, which I actually enjoyed, but
it's hard to watch sometimes I can't remember what it was,
Trapped or something like that.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
There was also a Tom Hardy movie called Lock I think,
where he was in the car by him on a trip.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
That's interesting familiar to you? No, no, but this isn't
a parking lot, so this is or like somewhere and
this is he's stuck. Yeah, well it does. It ends
up driving on its own, so it does end up
it's a self driving car. So yeah, this guy's put
through the ringer and you don't feel bad for him,
at least in the trailer. You probably will. They probably
will show a little more about him in the movie

(21:24):
and you'll be I feel bad for him, cause that's
how they do it. But in the trailer you don't
because you're like, you broke into the car dude, you
get what you you know, deserve. And then there's another movie.
I was surprised this is being released in theaters. Magazine Dreams,
and I'll tell you why, because it's Jonathan Major's. And
I thought he'd kind of been canceled. I know that

(21:45):
Disney and Marble canceled him. He was supposed to be
the next big villain for the for the you know,
after doing the Last ant Man movie, and then he
got embroiled in that whole controversy with the criminal case.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Is he not in Wicked as well?

Speaker 1 (22:02):
I don't think so. I don't. I don't remember him
in Wicked. He wouldn't fit in Wicked. This is a
he's a.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Big he's the love interest.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
I think, No, you're thinking of someone else. Jonathan Major's
was the one who played the He played the villain
in the ant Man, the Last ant Man movie, and
then he got accused of all kinds of stuff by
a former girlfriend. And yeah, and then well and then
and then Marvel and Disney said get out of here,
you're done. And he had done this movie and they're

(22:32):
putting it out and it's here's what the synopsis. In
one sentence, A man looks after his ailing grandfather while
trying to make it in the world a professional bodybuilding.
It's it's kind of like they're trying to do like
a wrestler, remember the Wrestler. Kind of that kind of
a feel, I think is what they're doing. Low budget,
you know, kind of movie. So anyway, he's a good actor.

(22:53):
He was in he was in the second Creed movie
or was it the last Creed Now the last Creed
movie was that the third one? Maybe it was a second. Yeah,
he was in that one and that so you had
a big part in that and uh, and then his
career just came tumbling down. But he had shot this
and uh, you know, there was a movie I remember

(23:13):
the same kind of thing when Kevin Spacey's whole situation
came up, and he had a couple of movies in
the pipe and then pretty much destroyed. Remember they had
to replace him completely. One that was exactly and then
the other one. The other one there was another one
Millionaire Boys Club with the I forget his Uh, the
guy from Baby Driver starred in that and and Kevin

(23:38):
Spacey was in that and I think they kind of
quietly released it to streaming somewhere, but this one's actually
on the big screen. So that's interesting. Wow, you're shooting
a movie. Watch what you're doing. By the way, this
magazine Dreams has eighty three percent rotten Tomato score. Let's
see what snow white white house. Let's see, let's see
if your brethren agree with you. Let's see. Let's see

(24:02):
Disney snow white splattered tomato. I just wonder how much
of that is, you know, people coloring it with.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Not what's on the screen, but right, so what's happening
behind the scenes, right right, right?

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Interesting? You know what, I'll be honest with you. I
have unlimited I'm not giving them an extra money for it.
I don't know how it works. I'm sure they get credit.
I might. I might give it a whirl, maybe not
this weekend, but what.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
About your daughter?

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Well, and the older one doesn't want to see it,
and I'm not with the other one until early April,
and I don't know if this movie he'll be.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Out, but but it'll probably be gone. Yea.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
I might just be that. I might just give it
a watch, just for just for craps and giggles. We'll
see what we'll see. So while you work we'll see,
but I'm definitely Alton. Alto Knights is where I want
to be. Right now, that's.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
The movie of the week. I don't know about the
box office, but that's the movie to see.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yes, well it won't be snow White at the By
if you know, maybe it'll be uh Captain America again.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Well, it depends on how many screens they put snow
white on.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, there's no way it's it's leading the bunch.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
You think it's just going to tank?

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Okay, yes, yes, no problem. So we will see. All right,
we'll chat next week.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Let's be amateurs next week.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Take care always,
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