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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Joel Malcolm Ford w j n O dot com.
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My election spotlight is on the race and the general
election for Palm Beach County State Attorney. There are three
candidates right now, no incumbent. It is Dave Ehrenberg, Democrats
seat that he is not running for another race twelve
years on the job.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
There.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Democrat Alexia Cox is running along with NPA candidate Adam
Farkas and Sam Stern, Republican candidate who we also did
speak with during the primary. Wanted to give an opportunity
to him to come back on.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
And he is.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Thank you for joining me, Sam Coure, thanks for having
me back now. We did talk about a lot of
stuff and folks can find it, you know, right here
at the election spotlight page or of course the interview
itself on iHeartRadio in the local newswire blog. But I
wanted you to give an opportunity, you know, have an
opportunity to speak now, you know more now that you
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know exactly who you're facing in the race, and so
you know, give us just a little bit of background
and folks can get all that, but just give us
some give us some info on you.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Well, thanks, sure, So look I'm a prosecute I was
a former prosecutor. I was a state prosecutor, and I
was a federal prosecutor. I was a state prosecutor in
the Palm Beach County State Attorney's Office. And I was
a state prosecutor in New Jersey and a federal prosecutor
in New Jersey. You know, I looked for Republican and
Democrat administrations. I've been promoted by you know, either one
whenever I've been And I also teach at the Versus
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Mammi Law School. I teach a class every fall. I
teach people how to try cases. I was to teach
at the National Trial Advocacy College at the University of
Virginia Law School where University of Virginia law students get
credit or attending and goes to their diplomas and training
them how to be trial lawyers. I've also written a
published book by Skyhorse Publishing that was published about a
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year and a half ago on Trial Advocacy and cross Examination,
which is has a lot of accolades by some of
the finest lawyers in America, Roy Black Tadwells, Supreme Court
Justice Courier. So look, I'm an expert in doing the work,
and I'm an expert in teaching the work, and that's
exactly what this office needs.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
You talk about on your campaign page some of your
priorities prosecute criminals and protect the rights of victims, keep
violent criminals out of our community. Why why is that
important to point out? Because I'm just just from somebody
on the outside looking in. Isn't that I mean, isn't
that what anybody doing this job should be focused on.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Well, you're right, that's what they should be, but that's
not always what they are doing. Look, we can look
around the country examples of you know, people like Alvin
Bragg or Larry Krasner and Philadelphia who who aren't doing
these things and that's why people are leaving those communities.
And I'll tell you, Joe, I'm sure we're going to
talk about this. We have issues in this community. So
Michael Wiseman case, which I you know, I've spoken about
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publicly a lot, is it great example of the rights
of victims not being protected and a posecuo's office doing
outrageous things.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, well we'll talk about that now.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I'll give you the opportunity because you did come on
the show with us on the Brian Mudd Show. I
believe back in August when this you know case first
came up that the Palm Beache County State Attorney's Office
under Dave Ehrenberg, you know, offered a plea deal to Wiseman.
Wiseman is a Jupiter Man who had it was alleged
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to have posted some very serious threats to both former
President Trump, Jade Vance and family members as well. Was
offered initially a plea deal to do a pre trial
intervention program. You came on with us and said, this
is illegal. We had question about that. We're not attorneys,
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you are, but you know, was it legal? Was it illegal?
Turns out it was illegal, And turns out the state
Attorney's office didn't about face about i think three days
after actually accepting this plea arrangement and said, oops, you
know it is illegal, and we found out about it
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in a Palm Beach Post article just you know, several
days ago. So it was never kind of put out
there to the public that, you know, oops, this guy
no longer. So now he's going to face these charges
at least for now. What does that tell you?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, yeah, let me let me just amplify it. I mean,
just you've done a great job laying it out, but
as a as a small bullet points, what you had
is you had an illegal plea that they tried to
seek past the public. I blew the whistle on it
and spoke about it. They told the public it wasn't
an illegal plea. They lied to the public. These are
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people who These are people who know what they're doing,
unless they want to claim that they just have no
idea what they're doing. Either way, right, they told the
public it was all okay, and then secretly they went
and quietly undid the plea and didn't make any any
public correction. But if this is outrageous stuff, I mean,
it's really serious, now.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I should I should just say, you know, for just
to keep things equal on my end.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Secretly you know it's public record.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
But they did not go to the media and say, hey,
we we did this, so you know when they did
file with the with the judge. Obviously it's it's public record,
but somebody would need to know to look for that.
I know, as a member of the media, I never
I had no idea I would you know, why would
I look at it?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
That's right? I'm not claiming it was done in a
secret court in a vault somewhere, But to your point,
it's exactly right. When you're in office, it's gone to
the public and made statements and said this was a
legal plea, we stand behind it, et cetera. And then
two days later you go and undo it and you
tell no one. It's clear that you didn't want anyone
to know about it.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
And why do you think that is very obvious? Why
do you think that is, Sam? Why did they want now?
Why do you believe they didn't want anybody to know
about it?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Look, I think the fair read of this is they
intentionally didn't le legal play because Donald Trump was the
victim of a crime. They lied to people about it
when they were called out on it, and then they
realized they were in big trouble and they undid it
because it was illegal. But I didn't want anyone to know.
But frankly, this isn't my question to answer. This is
the question that she'd been put to these people about
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why they've done the things that they've done, which will
look completely inappropriate on the space, And we.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Should say right at this moment, right now, October twenty eighth,
just eight days away from election day. We have been
working with the folks that represent Alexia Cox. She is
the only one of the three candidates. I believe that
it's currently with the State Attorney's office right now, not
that she necessarily had a role in any of this.
That being said, she is representing. She is currently working
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for the State Attorney's office, and she wants this title
as well this job, so that would be one of
the questions we would ask her. So we did talk
to her, just like we did you during the primary.
And we are offering up an interview with Alexia Cox
again and am not getting word back that we're that
we're getting her, but we're going to keep trying.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
So just wanted to get that out there.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
And I hope I help you do because you know,
when this story broke and I made my public statements
that this is an appropriate and unlawful please, miss Cox
took the opposite position. I think she has a lot
to answer for here about what her understanding of this is,
and what her views on this are, and what her
views are in light of the fact of what's happened here.
So yeah, I think I think everyone's views on this
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are frankly critically important to who the people of this
county decide to hire to be the chief law enforcement agent.
Is it somebody who is it somebody who's okay with
the legal please miss Cox says she was okay with it,
or somebody like me who's going to stand up and
tell the truth.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
So, you know, you've brought up concerns regarding this. We had,
you know, the former president who is obviously a Republican,
and this situation, suation with Michael Wiseman.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
We could go back into the.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Whole situation with the second alleged assassination attempt and what
happened there, but I think people can go back and
listen to that conversation in our previous interview, unless you
want to speak to that again. But my point to
this is, so we have a Republican former president and
a Democrat in Dave Ehrenberg who heads up this this
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agency right now. We have a Democrat running, we have
a Republican yourself running, and we have an NPA and
no party affiliate candidate who is out there saying this
is why he should have the job because it wouldn't
look like there is any impropriety on a political level.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
So what say you about that?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah, it's a really important question. I mean, look, this
is a political process for a job that is supposed
to be a political and function, and frankly, I'm the
right person for it for the following reasons. The bona
fides of my campaign demonstrate that I'm going to handle
this office with professionalist I mean, those bonu bodies are
as follows. I've been endorsed by the Sun Sentinel. I've
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been endorsed by both of the Democratic primary candidates who
ran against ms Cox, who refused to endorse and support her,
and who instead supported me because, in their words, I
was the right person to run this office professionally. And
those aren't just my words. Those are Craig Williams and
Greg Lherman's words, the Democratic primary candidates. So we have
broad bipartisan support to run this office in a professional manner.
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I mean, Joe, when in politics have you ever seen
both of the primary candidates refuse to support the nominee
of their party and endorse the other party's nominee. It
kills a lot, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Do you have any other endorsements to mention?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Well, look, there's a biz pack I could sort of
go on and on here.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I'm just giving me the opportunity to reference them if
you like, because I know we didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
We didn't care that in the first interview.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I don't think sure Biz Package is very significant business
group in the county. Mike Caruso, Peggy Gossip, Sidon and
Rick Ross. I'm just sort of going down the list here,
Sarah Baxter. So look, you know, the ones that are
most meaningful are the bipartisan ones because those speak to
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the point that you just raised.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
So let's uh.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I want to give you an opportunity, and then after
this we can talk about whatever else you want to
talk about before we wrap up, because I don't want
to take too much time on you addressing comments from
other candidates, but whenever they make them, I feel the
need too, you know, an obligation to bring them to you.
So Adam Farkas n PA candidate in this race, in
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my interview with him, uh, he referenced you, as you know,
he really doesn't have a whole lot to say about you.
You haven't practiced in Palm Beach County. Ever, your resume,
he said, is quote unquote completely misrepresented. I did not
go into any detail officially on that. You don't have experience,
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he says, or Palm Beach County connections, and then he
talks about himself being the only candidate that's worked on
both sides, defense and prosecutor over one hundred trials on
both sides. So again, I wanted to give you the
opportunity to address the comments he made about you.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, I mean, look, look, there's look as far as
my connection to Palm Beach County, you know, I served
in the Palm Beach County State Attorney's Office. I met
my wife here, my children were both born at Good
Samaritan Hospital, My parents live here, my mother in law
lives here. So look, had there been people who lived
in Palm Beach County longer than I have, of course,
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but no, I've been here for some time since I
moved here permanently in twenty eleven after being seasonal for
most of my life. So it's just really without any merit.
And as far as my professional bona bodies, all anybody
has to do is look at my website and understand
I'm the only person in this race with a published
book that's been endorsed by some of the top lawyers
in America. I teach it to major universities. In reality,
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I've been endorsed by the people I've talked about. Mister
Farcus has been endorsed by no one. Mister Farcas worked
at the State Attorney's office for nine months before he
was fired. Because so, look, mister Farcus is not really
relevant in this race other than sort of, you know,
whatever he's doing. Here's the reality of it. When you're
leading this race as i am, and when you're calling
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out the misconvent of the State Attorney's office, people are
going to throw, you know, mud at you. But the
reality is that office did an illegal play. The reality
is that office is employing currently one of the Epstein
prosecutors who attack the unbraged victims in the grand jury
back in two thousand and seven. There are serious issues
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in this office. So you know, look, these other candidates
can talk about what they want to talk about, but
for some reason, they don't want to talk about these things.
And these things are the things that actually matter, and
that tells you a lot.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
So you would make a vow, as the Republican candidate
here to never look at politics when making decisions correct.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
That's absolutely right. Let me be really really clear about this, Okay.
When I joined the Hudson County Prostry's Office in New Jersey,
that was a Democrat who ran that office, and they
hired me and they promoted me repeatedly. When I was
hired in the US Attorney's Office, I was hired by
a Republican presidential appointee, and then I was promoted from
the appellate division to the criminal division by a Democratic
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U S Attorney appointee. When I joined the Palm Beach
State Attorney's Office, I was hired by a Democrat elected
state attorney and and I was repeatedly promoted through the
office into a specialty division. I have been repeatedly hired
and promoted by members of both parties as a professional prosecutor.
My bona fides on this are very clear, and if
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nothing else, the fact that I've been endorsed by both
of the Democratic primary candidates and the Sun Sentinel, which
is not a conservative newspaper, speak the whole story for everybody.
I am the professional, a political prosecutor who's going to
reform this office and operate it fairly. That's the reality.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
All right, you covered a lot of this, but you know,
in a nutshell, I always ask this at the end,
and then if you have anything beyond that, you feel
free to add it. But what makes Sam Stern the
best candidate here? Why should folks ultimately vote for you?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Well, look, you know I've spent my entire life functionally
preparing for this. I'm very, very excited to reform this office.
As I've said on this on the campaign trail. You know,
I have the ability personally to handle any case that
comes into the office, but I can't handle every case
that comes into the office. We need to recruit and
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train in leave this office properly. If you elect a
bad congressman, people don't leave their communities. But if you
elect a bad state attorney or a prosecutor or a
DA people do leave their communities. This is one of
the most consequential decisions that people have on this ballot
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that will affect the quality of life for people in
this community. I have the background and the expertise and
the desire to speak the truth about this office and
to actually go and reform it, not to just keep
on keeping on and keep it all under the rug.
So I'm very excited. I put my heart and soul
into it. I certainly hope people will vote for change
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that's desperately needed.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
All right, anything else for you, wrap up?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
No, I appreciate you having me, and it's always a
pleasure to be on your program.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
All right.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I appreciate you coming on talking to the voters in
Palm Beach County State attorney race candidate Sam Stern, Republican.
Once again, thanks for coming on here on w j
NO dot com.