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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome, my friends. You're listening to the Voice of the
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I invite you to have a word of prayer. Dear
Heaven a Father, thank you for this opportunity to present
that word today. Help us, a Lord, to present it
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in such a way that your Holy Spirit can be
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so we can only have a clear understanding, but also
to put in practice what you want us to diach today.
The name of Jesus, we pray, Amen, Amen, Amen. We'll
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continuing with this ninety five THESS Serious that we are
being presenting for quite a while now. This is number
fifty four. Can somebody read it please for me?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You ass yes, sir. It says as the Sabbath was
kept in Eden before the fall of Sin, or before
man's fall into sin and all through history even till today.
So it will be observed eternally in the new earth
after the restitution. Praise God. And that's found in Isaiah
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sixty six, Verses twenty two and twenty three.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Let's turn there. Can somebody read it? Please?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
And it's shall come to pass that from one new
moon to another, from one Sabbath to another, shall all
flesh come to worship before me, say it the Lord, Wow,
and they shall go forth. Wait, I should read the
verse before go ahead, For as the new heavens and
the new earth which I will make shall remain before me,
say it, the Lord, So shall your seed and your
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name remain. And then from one Sabbath to another, shall
all flesh come to worship before me? Sat the Lord.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
So what the Bible is telling us is that the
same way that we yes, you know, God's people, the
one that will be saved will live forever. We also
forever every Sabbath day, every seventh day Sabbath. Right, we
will come and worship before him. That's right. I want
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to pay attention also, my ready listeners over there, How
did the verse read describing coming from south and subath now, well, you.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Shall come to pass that from one new moon to another,
and from one Sabbath to another, all flesh come to
worship all flesh.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
That's that's the frash. I was looking at all flesh once.
Should have notice the Bible is not saying, ohther, when
all Jews are going to come to me? Right, that's right,
all flesh, that's right. Given the indicating that that's going
to be for every nation's kinders and tones and people everyone.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
That also destroys the eternally burning health theory, because there's
no all flesh is going to come to worship God
from Sabbath to Sabbath. That means that means, as the
Bible teaches, the wicked will be burned to ashes.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Very good point because if it said all flesh, if
they were alive, that would have to include them. But
obviously the wages of sin is death, so they're going
to be destroyed.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
That's a great point. Can you read the Bible verse
for me, please rough to what my brother patri just said.
Because the safe ones, the one that will be safe,
are going to do that. But the one that I'm
not going to be safe is being described in Revelation
of twenty verse of eight, so we can understand the
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context seven eight relation twenty seven eight and nine. Okay,
maybe ten. Let's see.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be
loosed out of his prison and shall go out to
deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of
the earth, Gog and Magog to gather them to battle together,
to battle, the number of whom is as the sand
of the sea. And they went up on the breadth
of the earth, encompassed the camp of the saints about
and beloved city, and fire came down from God out
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of heaven and devoured them, devoured them.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yes, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
And verse ten place first y ten, And the devil
that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire
and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet Iron
shall be torn in a day night, forever and ever.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Okay. What does that means?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
As long as life shall last?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And you find that in the book of First Samuel,
where it shows that forever actually means until you die.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yep. And First Samuel, okay, get you read it, please,
all right.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Let's see here, okay, First Samuel.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Here, Now, if we go over here First and First Samuel.
What happens here?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
In First Samuel, Chapter one, Hannah, a woman named Hannah,
wanted to give her child, which was which was the
prophet Samuel, to the priesthood forever. Notice what it says
in verse twenty two. But Hannah went not up, for
she said, unto her husband, I will not go up
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until the child be ween, and then I will bring
him that he may appear before the Lord and abide
there forever. So he supos be forever. So well, what
does she mean by that? Well, if you go to
verse twenty eight, go to first twenty eight, it says therefore, also,
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this is Hannah speaking, I have lent him to the Lord.
As long as he liveth he shall be lent to
the Lord. And he worshiped the Lord.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
There So that expression forever and ever in the Bible,
it's not the same way that we might understand it
today in our modern day languages.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Right, it means as long as you live. So when
it says they will be tormented forever and ever, in
other words, they're not coming out of that torment until
they die. They devoured, be devoured, well devoured. In the
Book of Malachi, tells us that is that all right,
that's right. Malachi three, Malachi four and verse three. I
believe it says, and you shall tread down the wicked,
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for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet.
In the day that I shall do this, say at
the Lord of Hosts. And verse one says, behold the
day cometh that shall burn as an oven, and all
the proud you, all they that do wickedly shall be stuble.
And the day cometh that shall burn them up, Say
at the Lord of Hosts that it shall leave them
neither root nor branch. You shall tread them down, and
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they shall be ashes under the soul.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
So obviously, who will be the root?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
That's Satan?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Satan? And he said, and will be the.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Branches that's his servants.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
They're the people that serve him. Unfortunately, did not go
with Jesus when it comes, did not obey again. There
were disobedience. They chose when they were here. They chose
again while provation was hoping. They chose to obey men
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instead of Jesus.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
And this verse says, all that, all the proud, yay,
all that do wickedly. So the wicked are those who
are too proud to humble themselves to be obedient to
the ten commandments. That's because a wicked person in our.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Again English or Spanish, we think it is a person
though it is, you know, very evil in the biblical sense.
In the biblical meanings, a wicked is it's what a
person that.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Is violating God's.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Trustpress a law. That's right, that's it. That's it, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And Jesus makes it very plain, and and and one verse.
He actually sums up the gospel in one verse in
John three sixteen, very familiar verse, he says, for God
so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son,
that whosoever believeth in him should not So if you
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believe in him, you will not perish. But if you
don't believe him, the opposite is true. You will perish, perish,
meaning that you will die, you will never exist anymore.
How do I know that because the very next phrase
what he says, he says, look, and that whosoever believing
in him should not perish. But that contrary, but have
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everlasting life.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Man, all right, So what is the opposite of everlasting life?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
That you're ever lasting dead? You're dead forever you're never
alive again.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
And the opposite of perishing is ever last in life.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
That's correct, that's the second death, which is the eternal death?
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Or do you know that? That's what Revelation says the
same chapter that you were reading Best Parks on chapter twenty,
verse fourteen. Do you read twenty ten? Some of you? Okay?
But on the fourteen it described what does it mean
to be forever and ever and ever?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
It says, and death and hell were cast into the
lake of fire. This is the second death. That's amazing.
So God is going to destroy death.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Right, they're describing what is the second death? That's right.
It is like a being terminated in the lake of fire.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
And so they say, so, if God is going to
destroy death, right, then nobody you know, then that means
that after these people are dead, there's nobody burning eternally.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Ever. Yeah, we can expand that, as we have done
a previous program in the near future. But in the meantime,
you can go to Eternal Gospel that com click and
radio program and you can find not only one, but
several Bible study that we are presenting presented already on
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that in this topic. Guess right, then, we'll see that
that was another pagan belief right that godill a religion
right began and was introduced not only not only the
Christian churches, but even the Jews. That's right. People copy
that from the pagan that's right, but it's not biblical.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
No.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I just wanted to say that we die are The
first death is us dying as a result of Adam
sin and the effects of his sin in this world.
But the second death is when we are resurrected unto
the resurrection of damnation, when we have to suffer the
penalty for our own sins. And so it's very important
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to repent of our sins and bring them all to
Jesus and let him dwell in our hearts.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Amen. And what is sin?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Sin is violating one of the ten commandments. For John
three four, I'd like to read another verse that goes
with Isaiah sixty six twenty three, where it says all
flesh shall come and worship before me. That's Revelation fifteen,
verse Revelation five, verse thirteen, where it says, and every
creature which is in heaven and on the earth, and
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under the earth, and such as are in the sea,
and all that are in them. Heard I saying, blessing
and honor and glory and power be unto him that
sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb, forever and
ever wonderful here, it says, every creature. So there's not
a little pool of fire over there burning forever, where
all those creatures are cursing forever. No, that is not
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a biblical doctrine. They are burned to ashes, as we saw,
And every creature there will be a time when sin
is totally destroyed, and every creature in heaven and earth
will praise the Lord.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
By the way, every time I heard that theory that
God was going to keep burning forever and ever. You know,
the people who will not be safe, I always said
to myself, and rest it in more than one time
in those occasions, I said, but what kind of a
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God is this? You imagine? What kind of a God
is that he will create somebody, bring somebody to this earth,
and then later to keep it burning forever and.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Ever He brings him to this earth and lets him
live only seventy years or eighty whatever. Yes, and but forever,
I mean, if that was the truth, the truth, we
should never have children and.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Not only that, if that would be true, God would
not be a god of love, will be the biggest monster.
As I said one time to one of my religious leaders,
I said, you know what, we are following the biggest
monster that we can even think of.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
That's right, if that were true. But that's a lie
from the devil. That's that is his character. He would
like that to happen. That's he would like that. But
God is so merciful that God is not even going
to allow the devil to burn forever.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
That's why he says, allow him to die. It's true
that you know Satan and the follower, the one that
will not be safe, which would be like the sounds
of the sea. That okay, that's true. We'll perish, will
be destroyed forever, right, But there will be no such
a thing eternal hell, because the word eternal in Bilical
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language is different than the way we can think of today.
And can give another example, Me give another example things
and I say that in the book. Okay, go ahead, okay,
I'm sorry. And there's another one too, your look of
Jude from the Patrick. If you can look for lamentation
for seats, please, we always try to go to the Bible.
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To find the meaning of each term. Go to the churches,
go to the ministers, go to the world of God.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Oh God, Amen and June verse seven, it says this.
It says, even as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities
about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication
and going after strange flesh, are set forth as an example.
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So that's an example, okay, example of what it says,
suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Now, so friends, let's
ask the question. Sodom and Gomorrah. We know where they
were located at They were located just south of the
Dead Sea. Okay. The Bible says they will burn. The
God send fire down from heaven and they will burned
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up and they will destroy. Let me ask you this question.
Is Sodom and Gomorrah burning up with fire today?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
So when God says they suffered the avengeance of eternal fire,
what was he saying? He says, He's saying that the
effects of the fire would be eternal, that city would
never be built again. So that's when he says what
he means when he says each coernal fire, everlasting fire,
the effects of that fire will not be reversed. Those
people will perish man. Okay, So a lamentation for.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Notation four ver six, for the punishment of the iniquity
of the daughter of my people is greater than the
punishment of the sin of sodom. That was overthrown as
in a moment, and no hands stayed on her.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Okay, you see that in the Book of Jude, you
read like eternal fire, fire, but lamentation says, no, it
was burnt and in a moment. That's right. So you
see many wicked, well I should I say wicked, may
be misguided people. They will be mockering the Bible and
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they will say and they will say something like this.
You see there is contradiction in the Bible. This cannot
be the word of God, my friends. Is not a contradiction. No, no,
we just have to understand each meaning of what the
word God says. That's all it is, all it is.
And no, you don't have to have a PhD or
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to go to a big institutions. You know, many of
us have been going through that, and we have been
thrown that out of the window in order for us
to understand the Bible. Now become like a like a child,
in order to understand what God is telling us. That's right, okay,
I press God. So anyway, why do we get into this?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I know because of the Sabbath. Right, that's right in
our fifty four thesu is today, which was that in eternally,
that's right in heaven right, and in the new Earth,
in a new earth, in a new heaven. How do
we know that that eternal? Okay, it's not going to
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be just for one moment.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Well, it says here in verse twenty two. For as
the new heavens and the new Earth, which I will mate,
we shall remain. Okay, So that's before me, say the Lord,
So shall your seed and your name remain remain. So
that's what he's in every Sabbath, every seventh day Sabbath.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
What everybody's gonna do.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
We're gonna it says every side. We're gonna come before
him and worship him.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Can you imagine? Can you imagine how uncomfortable it would
be for those people that you know, hard headed, full
of pride, they want their own sex. I say, no, no, no,
I don't care what the Bible says. I said that
I could change the God's law and look at millions
of people following me. I want to keep following this
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my first day of the week instead of seven day.
Can you mind if Jesus would have bring that kind
of people, can you imagine what kind of a mess
will be? It will be, it will be.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
And at the same time those people are complaining, you
hear another shrieking going on for all eternity. That's kind
of a weird heaven place that's being depicted for us.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
That's right, that's right, that's right. So my friends, you see,
God is a god of love, that's right, but also
a god of justice. That's right.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
He has to see he's a father, so he's going
to discipline.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
He's a father, but he has to end up with
the saying he has so insane in this earth. That's right,
has to eliminate. That's right. So for our happiness, for
the happiness of those stuff. Yes, at the end, choosing
or choose to be with him, that's right, and not
following man.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Okay, So that was a little parenthesis that yes.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, I just want to look at this verse verse
twenty three so that the heroes don't think that we're
ignoring something here. It says, Look, and now this is
talking about remember the context of what's going to happen
and the new heavens and the new Earth. So it says,
n it shall come to pass that from one new
moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, shall
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all flesh come towardship before me, said the Lord. So
we're gonna be We're having worship service every sabbath throughout
the ceaseless ages of eternity, the new heavens and a
new Earth, just like we are commanded to do it
here now. But what is this new moon says? It
says that the new moon. So throughout eternity, every new moon,
we're also going to come before him and worship. So
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what is God saying here?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Well?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
And the Bible, as far as the Israelites are concerned,
they had a feast day that was instituted by the
Lord through Moses, and it was called the new moon.
The new moon simply means God set the moon to
separate the months. That's why it says a month month
from moon. And so every time a new moon would come,
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it signified a new month. It was about every thirty days,
and that still happens today. Okay, so every third day.
So well, God is saying that every beginning of every month,
every month, there is going to be a worship service.
We're going to come before him and worship. We're gonna
do it every week on the seventh day Sabbath, but
we're also going to have a special service once a month.
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Now what is this about. Well, in the book of
Psalm and Psalm eighty one, it tells us what the
new moon feast day and those days were. What was
that about? So it tells us here it says. Look,
it says in Psalm eighty one, verse one, it says,
sing aloud, unto God our strength, make a joyful noise,
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unto the God of Jacob. Take a psalm, and bring
hither the timbrel. The pleasant heart and the sultry were
talking about worship right, coming together and worshiping. Then it says,
blow up the trumpet in the new moon and the
time appointed on our solemn feast day. For this was
a statue for Israel. So notice it was specifically a
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statute for Israel and a law of the God of Jacob.
This he ordained that new moon. Hee staid this he
ordained in Joseph for a testimony when he went out
through the land of Egypt, where I heard a language
that I understood. Not I removed his shoulder from the burden.
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His hands were delivered from the pots thou callest in trouble,
and I delivered thee So notice, brothers and sisters, the.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
New moon.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
The new moon was a day that God wanted his
people Israel back in those days, to come together and
worship Him, commemorating the times that He delivered them. He
delivered them from their enemies. And I just want to
make this point real quick, and then I passed it
to Patrick. He So this was a time that God
would the people would remember that God delivered them from
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their enemies. Every month they had a special service. And
so when now remember noticing it that it was four Israel.
So when and when Jesus died on the cross in
seventy a d came about, Israel was not a nation anymore.
Therefore the New Moon was not to be kept anymore.
But God is telling us it's coming back. Why because
throughout the ceaseless ages of eternity, all flesh will have
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a special service every month commemorating how Jesus delivered us
from same man. We will never forget what Jesus did
for us. And we're gonna have a special service every
month talking about that and bringing honor and praise to him.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Wow. Yes, brother, well, and that sam Psalm eighty one,
in verse ten, God says, I am the Lord, thy God,
which brought thee out of the land of Egypt. Yes,
open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it. And
in Revelation twenty two one and two, it says, and
he showed me a pure river of water of life,
clear crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and
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of the Lamb. And in the midst of the street
of it, and unneath on either side of the river
was there the tree of Life, which bear twelve manner
of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month. And so
God's month, God's going to let us taste. He's going
to open He say, open your mouth wide, and He'll
fill us with the fruit from the tree of life
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every month.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Every month as well.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
That's right, and that's amazing, because again it was commemorating
him delivering them from Egypt, is what you read, right,
He was going to feel their mouth where in the
Promised Land, because that's where they were going. So when
we get to that real promised land, which you just
read about, he's gonna still feel it.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Wow, that's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
And also something else we see in here. We see
that for eternally, eternally, eternity, eternity. That's right. For eternity,
all of us will have to acknowledge that our eternal
life will be depending on our creators. Yes it is, Yes,
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it is. Wow. You see, the more we get into
the Bible, we medit that in the Bible, the more the.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
More beautiful it can be. It turns into a botanical garden.
It's just beautiful everywhere. So okay, I'm sorry, we're about
to go ahead.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Well, I was just thinking of Joseph Bates, who was
an astronomer. He liked to study the stars, and he
was saying that when who was Joseph Baits he was
he was one of the pioneer pioneers of the Second
Advent movement and he's And when man sin in the
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garden of Eden, God cast them out, and God guarded
the way to the Tree of Life by a chair
of him that had what flaming sword in their hands,
and you can read that in the end of chapter
uh chapter three, it says chair, he drove them out.
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He drove out the man, and he placed at the
east of the garden Eden Chairubhims and a flaming sword
which turned every way to keep the way of the
Tree of life.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
The Book of Genesis chapter three.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yes, and then God took the tree of Life and
the garden of Eden to heaven before the flood. And
now Joseph Bates said, he's guarding the way to the
Tree of Life by a flaming sword. And that's found
in Orion, this constellation on line where Ryan has a
belt and hanging down is the sword. And in the
middle of that sword is the great nebula of a
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rhin the most glorious place in the in the heavens.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
All right, we need to conclude the program for today. Unfortunately,
our time is up. I just want to remind all
of you out there across the land. Yes, there is
a heaven two gain that's right, okay, and a hell
to shun. Yes. And there is a special weekly appointment
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that we're going to keep in there, a special appointment
every month eight of the driver's life that that will
mean eternal life by Christ Christ alone. That's right. May
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Speaker 2 (28:00):
God bless you
Welcome, my friends. You're listening to the Voice of the
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I invite you to have a word of prayer. Dear
Heaven a Father, thank you for this opportunity to present
that word today. Help us, a Lord, to present it
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in such a way that your Holy Spirit can be
found on each one of the radio listeners and among ourselves,
so we can only have a clear understanding, but also
to put in practice what you want us to diach today.
The name of Jesus, we pray, Amen, Amen, Amen. We'll
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continuing with this ninety five THESS Serious that we are
being presenting for quite a while now. This is number
fifty four. Can somebody read it please for me?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You ass yes, sir. It says as the Sabbath was
kept in Eden before the fall of Sin, or before
man's fall into sin and all through history even till today.
So it will be observed eternally in the new earth
after the restitution. Praise God. And that's found in Isaiah
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sixty six, Verses twenty two and twenty three.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Let's turn there. Can somebody read it? Please?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
And it's shall come to pass that from one new
moon to another, from one Sabbath to another, shall all
flesh come to worship before me, say it the Lord, Wow,
and they shall go forth. Wait, I should read the
verse before go ahead, For as the new heavens and
the new earth which I will make shall remain before me,
say it, the Lord, So shall your seed and your
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name remain. And then from one Sabbath to another, shall
all flesh come to worship before me? Sat the Lord.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
So what the Bible is telling us is that the
same way that we yes, you know, God's people, the
one that will be saved will live forever. We also
forever every Sabbath day, every seventh day Sabbath. Right, we
will come and worship before him. That's right. I want
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to pay attention also, my ready listeners over there, How
did the verse read describing coming from south and subath now, well, you.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Shall come to pass that from one new moon to another,
and from one Sabbath to another, all flesh come to
worship all flesh.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
That's that's the frash. I was looking at all flesh once.
Should have notice the Bible is not saying, ohther, when
all Jews are going to come to me? Right, that's right,
all flesh, that's right. Given the indicating that that's going
to be for every nation's kinders and tones and people everyone.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
That also destroys the eternally burning health theory, because there's
no all flesh is going to come to worship God
from Sabbath to Sabbath. That means that means, as the
Bible teaches, the wicked will be burned to ashes.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Very good point because if it said all flesh, if
they were alive, that would have to include them. But
obviously the wages of sin is death, so they're going
to be destroyed.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
That's a great point. Can you read the Bible verse
for me, please rough to what my brother patri just said.
Because the safe ones, the one that will be safe,
are going to do that. But the one that I'm
not going to be safe is being described in Revelation
of twenty verse of eight, so we can understand the
(04:20):
context seven eight relation twenty seven eight and nine. Okay,
maybe ten. Let's see.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be
loosed out of his prison and shall go out to
deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of
the earth, Gog and Magog to gather them to battle together,
to battle, the number of whom is as the sand
of the sea. And they went up on the breadth
of the earth, encompassed the camp of the saints about
and beloved city, and fire came down from God out
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of heaven and devoured them, devoured them.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yes, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
And verse ten place first y ten, And the devil
that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire
and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet Iron
shall be torn in a day night, forever and ever.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Okay. What does that means?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
As long as life shall last?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And you find that in the book of First Samuel,
where it shows that forever actually means until you die.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yep. And First Samuel, okay, get you read it, please,
all right.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Let's see here, okay, First Samuel.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Here, Now, if we go over here First and First Samuel.
What happens here?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
In First Samuel, Chapter one, Hannah, a woman named Hannah,
wanted to give her child, which was which was the
prophet Samuel, to the priesthood forever. Notice what it says
in verse twenty two. But Hannah went not up, for
she said, unto her husband, I will not go up
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until the child be ween, and then I will bring
him that he may appear before the Lord and abide
there forever. So he supos be forever. So well, what
does she mean by that? Well, if you go to
verse twenty eight, go to first twenty eight, it says therefore, also,
(06:22):
this is Hannah speaking, I have lent him to the Lord.
As long as he liveth he shall be lent to
the Lord. And he worshiped the Lord.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
There So that expression forever and ever in the Bible,
it's not the same way that we might understand it
today in our modern day languages.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Right, it means as long as you live. So when
it says they will be tormented forever and ever, in
other words, they're not coming out of that torment until
they die. They devoured, be devoured, well devoured. In the
Book of Malachi, tells us that is that all right,
that's right. Malachi three, Malachi four and verse three. I
believe it says, and you shall tread down the wicked,
(07:06):
for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet.
In the day that I shall do this, say at
the Lord of Hosts. And verse one says, behold the
day cometh that shall burn as an oven, and all
the proud you, all they that do wickedly shall be stuble.
And the day cometh that shall burn them up, Say
at the Lord of Hosts that it shall leave them
neither root nor branch. You shall tread them down, and
(07:27):
they shall be ashes under the soul.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
So obviously, who will be the root?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
That's Satan?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Satan? And he said, and will be the.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Branches that's his servants.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
They're the people that serve him. Unfortunately, did not go
with Jesus when it comes, did not obey again. There
were disobedience. They chose when they were here. They chose
again while provation was hoping. They chose to obey men
(07:57):
instead of Jesus.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
And this verse says, all that, all the proud, yay,
all that do wickedly. So the wicked are those who
are too proud to humble themselves to be obedient to
the ten commandments. That's because a wicked person in our.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Again English or Spanish, we think it is a person
though it is, you know, very evil in the biblical sense.
In the biblical meanings, a wicked is it's what a
person that.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Is violating God's.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Trustpress a law. That's right, that's it. That's it, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And Jesus makes it very plain, and and and one verse.
He actually sums up the gospel in one verse in
John three sixteen, very familiar verse, he says, for God
so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son,
that whosoever believeth in him should not So if you
(09:01):
believe in him, you will not perish. But if you
don't believe him, the opposite is true. You will perish, perish,
meaning that you will die, you will never exist anymore.
How do I know that because the very next phrase
what he says, he says, look, and that whosoever believing
in him should not perish. But that contrary, but have
(09:21):
everlasting life.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Man, all right, So what is the opposite of everlasting life?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
That you're ever lasting dead? You're dead forever you're never
alive again.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
And the opposite of perishing is ever last in life.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
That's correct, that's the second death, which is the eternal death?
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Or do you know that? That's what Revelation says the
same chapter that you were reading Best Parks on chapter twenty,
verse fourteen. Do you read twenty ten? Some of you? Okay?
But on the fourteen it described what does it mean
to be forever and ever and ever?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
It says, and death and hell were cast into the
lake of fire. This is the second death. That's amazing.
So God is going to destroy death.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Right, they're describing what is the second death? That's right.
It is like a being terminated in the lake of fire.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
And so they say, so, if God is going to
destroy death, right, then nobody you know, then that means
that after these people are dead, there's nobody burning eternally.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Ever. Yeah, we can expand that, as we have done
a previous program in the near future. But in the meantime,
you can go to Eternal Gospel that com click and
radio program and you can find not only one, but
several Bible study that we are presenting presented already on
(10:51):
that in this topic. Guess right, then, we'll see that
that was another pagan belief right that godill a religion
right began and was introduced not only not only the
Christian churches, but even the Jews. That's right. People copy
that from the pagan that's right, but it's not biblical.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
No.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I just wanted to say that we die are The
first death is us dying as a result of Adam
sin and the effects of his sin in this world.
But the second death is when we are resurrected unto
the resurrection of damnation, when we have to suffer the
penalty for our own sins. And so it's very important
(11:36):
to repent of our sins and bring them all to
Jesus and let him dwell in our hearts.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Amen. And what is sin?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Sin is violating one of the ten commandments. For John
three four, I'd like to read another verse that goes
with Isaiah sixty six twenty three, where it says all
flesh shall come and worship before me. That's Revelation fifteen,
verse Revelation five, verse thirteen, where it says, and every
creature which is in heaven and on the earth, and
(12:05):
under the earth, and such as are in the sea,
and all that are in them. Heard I saying, blessing
and honor and glory and power be unto him that
sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb, forever and
ever wonderful here, it says, every creature. So there's not
a little pool of fire over there burning forever, where
all those creatures are cursing forever. No, that is not
(12:30):
a biblical doctrine. They are burned to ashes, as we saw,
And every creature there will be a time when sin
is totally destroyed, and every creature in heaven and earth
will praise the Lord.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
By the way, every time I heard that theory that
God was going to keep burning forever and ever. You know,
the people who will not be safe, I always said
to myself, and rest it in more than one time
in those occasions, I said, but what kind of a
(13:04):
God is this? You imagine? What kind of a God
is that he will create somebody, bring somebody to this earth,
and then later to keep it burning forever and.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Ever He brings him to this earth and lets him
live only seventy years or eighty whatever. Yes, and but forever,
I mean, if that was the truth, the truth, we
should never have children and.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Not only that, if that would be true, God would
not be a god of love, will be the biggest monster.
As I said one time to one of my religious leaders,
I said, you know what, we are following the biggest
monster that we can even think of.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
That's right, if that were true. But that's a lie
from the devil. That's that is his character. He would
like that to happen. That's he would like that. But
God is so merciful that God is not even going
to allow the devil to burn forever.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
That's why he says, allow him to die. It's true
that you know Satan and the follower, the one that
will not be safe, which would be like the sounds
of the sea. That okay, that's true. We'll perish, will
be destroyed forever, right, But there will be no such
a thing eternal hell, because the word eternal in Bilical
(14:23):
language is different than the way we can think of today.
And can give another example, Me give another example things
and I say that in the book. Okay, go ahead, okay,
I'm sorry. And there's another one too, your look of
Jude from the Patrick. If you can look for lamentation
for seats, please, we always try to go to the Bible.
(14:46):
To find the meaning of each term. Go to the churches,
go to the ministers, go to the world of God.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Oh God, Amen and June verse seven, it says this.
It says, even as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities
about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication
and going after strange flesh, are set forth as an example.
(15:16):
So that's an example, okay, example of what it says,
suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Now, so friends, let's
ask the question. Sodom and Gomorrah. We know where they
were located at They were located just south of the
Dead Sea. Okay. The Bible says they will burn. The
God send fire down from heaven and they will burned
(15:37):
up and they will destroy. Let me ask you this question.
Is Sodom and Gomorrah burning up with fire today?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
So when God says they suffered the avengeance of eternal fire,
what was he saying? He says, He's saying that the
effects of the fire would be eternal, that city would
never be built again. So that's when he says what
he means when he says each coernal fire, everlasting fire,
the effects of that fire will not be reversed. Those
people will perish man. Okay, So a lamentation for.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Notation four ver six, for the punishment of the iniquity
of the daughter of my people is greater than the
punishment of the sin of sodom. That was overthrown as
in a moment, and no hands stayed on her.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Okay, you see that in the Book of Jude, you
read like eternal fire, fire, but lamentation says, no, it
was burnt and in a moment. That's right. So you
see many wicked, well I should I say wicked, may
be misguided people. They will be mockering the Bible and
(16:42):
they will say and they will say something like this.
You see there is contradiction in the Bible. This cannot
be the word of God, my friends. Is not a contradiction. No, no,
we just have to understand each meaning of what the
word God says. That's all it is, all it is.
And no, you don't have to have a PhD or
(17:06):
to go to a big institutions. You know, many of
us have been going through that, and we have been
thrown that out of the window in order for us
to understand the Bible. Now become like a like a child,
in order to understand what God is telling us. That's right, okay,
I press God. So anyway, why do we get into this?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I know because of the Sabbath. Right, that's right in
our fifty four thesu is today, which was that in eternally,
that's right in heaven right, and in the new Earth,
in a new earth, in a new heaven. How do
we know that that eternal? Okay, it's not going to
(17:51):
be just for one moment.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Well, it says here in verse twenty two. For as
the new heavens and the new Earth, which I will mate,
we shall remain. Okay, So that's before me, say the Lord,
So shall your seed and your name remain remain. So
that's what he's in every Sabbath, every seventh day Sabbath.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
What everybody's gonna do.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
We're gonna it says every side. We're gonna come before
him and worship him.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Can you imagine? Can you imagine how uncomfortable it would
be for those people that you know, hard headed, full
of pride, they want their own sex. I say, no, no, no,
I don't care what the Bible says. I said that
I could change the God's law and look at millions
of people following me. I want to keep following this
(18:45):
my first day of the week instead of seven day.
Can you mind if Jesus would have bring that kind
of people, can you imagine what kind of a mess
will be? It will be, it will be.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
And at the same time those people are complaining, you
hear another shrieking going on for all eternity. That's kind
of a weird heaven place that's being depicted for us.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
That's right, that's right, that's right. So my friends, you see,
God is a god of love, that's right, but also
a god of justice. That's right.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
He has to see he's a father, so he's going
to discipline.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
He's a father, but he has to end up with
the saying he has so insane in this earth. That's right,
has to eliminate. That's right. So for our happiness, for
the happiness of those stuff. Yes, at the end, choosing
or choose to be with him, that's right, and not
following man.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Okay, So that was a little parenthesis that yes.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, I just want to look at this verse verse
twenty three so that the heroes don't think that we're
ignoring something here. It says, Look, and now this is
talking about remember the context of what's going to happen
and the new heavens and the new Earth. So it says,
n it shall come to pass that from one new
moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, shall
(20:08):
all flesh come towardship before me, said the Lord. So
we're gonna be We're having worship service every sabbath throughout
the ceaseless ages of eternity, the new heavens and a
new Earth, just like we are commanded to do it
here now. But what is this new moon says? It
says that the new moon. So throughout eternity, every new moon,
we're also going to come before him and worship. So
(20:31):
what is God saying here?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Well?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
And the Bible, as far as the Israelites are concerned,
they had a feast day that was instituted by the
Lord through Moses, and it was called the new moon.
The new moon simply means God set the moon to
separate the months. That's why it says a month month
from moon. And so every time a new moon would come,
(20:57):
it signified a new month. It was about every thirty days,
and that still happens today. Okay, so every third day.
So well, God is saying that every beginning of every month,
every month, there is going to be a worship service.
We're going to come before him and worship. We're gonna
do it every week on the seventh day Sabbath, but
we're also going to have a special service once a month.
(21:19):
Now what is this about. Well, in the book of
Psalm and Psalm eighty one, it tells us what the
new moon feast day and those days were. What was
that about? So it tells us here it says. Look,
it says in Psalm eighty one, verse one, it says,
sing aloud, unto God our strength, make a joyful noise,
(21:40):
unto the God of Jacob. Take a psalm, and bring
hither the timbrel. The pleasant heart and the sultry were
talking about worship right, coming together and worshiping. Then it says,
blow up the trumpet in the new moon and the
time appointed on our solemn feast day. For this was
a statue for Israel. So notice it was specifically a
(22:04):
statute for Israel and a law of the God of Jacob.
This he ordained that new moon. Hee staid this he
ordained in Joseph for a testimony when he went out
through the land of Egypt, where I heard a language
that I understood. Not I removed his shoulder from the burden.
(22:24):
His hands were delivered from the pots thou callest in trouble,
and I delivered thee So notice, brothers and sisters, the.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
New moon.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
The new moon was a day that God wanted his
people Israel back in those days, to come together and
worship Him, commemorating the times that He delivered them. He
delivered them from their enemies. And I just want to
make this point real quick, and then I passed it
to Patrick. He So this was a time that God
would the people would remember that God delivered them from
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their enemies. Every month they had a special service. And
so when now remember noticing it that it was four Israel.
So when and when Jesus died on the cross in
seventy a d came about, Israel was not a nation anymore.
Therefore the New Moon was not to be kept anymore.
But God is telling us it's coming back. Why because
throughout the ceaseless ages of eternity, all flesh will have
(23:24):
a special service every month commemorating how Jesus delivered us
from same man. We will never forget what Jesus did
for us. And we're gonna have a special service every
month talking about that and bringing honor and praise to him.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Wow. Yes, brother, well, and that sam Psalm eighty one,
in verse ten, God says, I am the Lord, thy God,
which brought thee out of the land of Egypt. Yes,
open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it. And
in Revelation twenty two one and two, it says, and
he showed me a pure river of water of life,
clear crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and
(24:02):
of the Lamb. And in the midst of the street
of it, and unneath on either side of the river
was there the tree of Life, which bear twelve manner
of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month. And so
God's month, God's going to let us taste. He's going
to open He say, open your mouth wide, and He'll
fill us with the fruit from the tree of life
(24:25):
every month.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Every month as well.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
That's right, and that's amazing, because again it was commemorating
him delivering them from Egypt, is what you read, right,
He was going to feel their mouth where in the
Promised Land, because that's where they were going. So when
we get to that real promised land, which you just
read about, he's gonna still feel it.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Wow, that's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
And also something else we see in here. We see
that for eternally, eternally, eternity, eternity. That's right. For eternity,
all of us will have to acknowledge that our eternal
life will be depending on our creators. Yes it is, Yes,
(25:10):
it is. Wow. You see, the more we get into
the Bible, we medit that in the Bible, the more the.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
More beautiful it can be. It turns into a botanical garden.
It's just beautiful everywhere. So okay, I'm sorry, we're about
to go ahead.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Well, I was just thinking of Joseph Bates, who was
an astronomer. He liked to study the stars, and he
was saying that when who was Joseph Baits he was
he was one of the pioneer pioneers of the Second
Advent movement and he's And when man sin in the
(25:49):
garden of Eden, God cast them out, and God guarded
the way to the Tree of Life by a chair
of him that had what flaming sword in their hands,
and you can read that in the end of chapter
uh chapter three, it says chair, he drove them out.
(26:09):
He drove out the man, and he placed at the
east of the garden Eden Chairubhims and a flaming sword
which turned every way to keep the way of the
Tree of life.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
The Book of Genesis chapter three.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yes, and then God took the tree of Life and
the garden of Eden to heaven before the flood. And
now Joseph Bates said, he's guarding the way to the
Tree of Life by a flaming sword. And that's found
in Orion, this constellation on line where Ryan has a
belt and hanging down is the sword. And in the
middle of that sword is the great nebula of a
(26:40):
rhin the most glorious place in the in the heavens.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
All right, we need to conclude the program for today. Unfortunately,
our time is up. I just want to remind all
of you out there across the land. Yes, there is
a heaven two gain that's right, okay, and a hell
to shun. Yes. And there is a special weekly appointment
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that we're going to keep in there, a special appointment
every month eight of the driver's life that that will
mean eternal life by Christ Christ alone. That's right. May
God bless you all. Amen. Man, thank you for listening
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and sharing this message. We invite you to visit our
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Speaker 2 (28:00):
God bless you
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