A Dream Of Destinity

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Read Welcome, my friends. You're listening to the Voice of
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of the end time, and to promote the advancement of
Christ's character in your life. I am Pastor Raphile Peres,
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
Father in Heaven. We thank you for this opportunity to
study your word, and bless us as we open your
word with the Holy Spirit to be our teacher, and
bless all those who are listening. In Jesus name, we pray, Amen, Amen.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Amen. We have been talking in the last program about
the Word of God, and we were mentioning that the
world of God, we can present them with authority because
the source of that is what God himself. Right yes,
right now? Is there a way that we can prove

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a little more. We talked a little bit about the prophecy.
One of the way that we can be sure that
it's got not man that speak to us through the
Bible is because everything that he has said that will
come to pass has come to pass, right, brother pass.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yes, And we can know that's true because the Bible
is its own interpreter of prophecy.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yes, you read as a matter of fact in the
previous program tewod Peter one. I believe it was yes one,
verse twenty one. Yeah, and you read it again. And
we're going to take off from the start.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Figure for the prophecy came not in old time by
the will of man, but Holy Man of God spake
as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Can we you think past to park. Can you think
of a prophecy in the Bible very precise to I
mean to the very letter that was predicted well, you
know hundreds of years, some of those prophecy over two

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thousand years, but it has come to pass to the
very letter.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Absolutely. There's an amazing prophecy in the Book of Daniel
and Daniel chapter two. It's an amazing one. And friends,
just want to add something here about prophecy. Very briefly.
In the Book of Titus, chapter one and verse two
is talking about the Lord and his words. Notice what
it says, and hope of eternal life, which God that

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cannot lie promised before the world began. Wow, so we
can trust his world, we can trust his prophecy. He
cannot lie. Let's look at that prophecy today in Daniel
chapter two.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
How did Jesus speak about that? How did he talk
about Daniel too, about those prophecies that we're about to
read in the Book of Daniel. Please, in the Book
of Matthew twenty four fifty.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Well, this is a very very important verse here, because
Jesus mentions Daniel by name. Jesus said, when he therefore
shall see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel,
the prophet stand in the Holy place, whosoever reader let
him understand. So Daniel was not a fictitious character. He

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was a real character that Jesus trusted himself.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Amen. Amen, and Daniel Leaves or his ministry. His prophetic
work took place at least six hundred years before Christ
kill me.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
That's right, right, I'm six so six BC, all the
right down to five thirty eight when Cyrus became.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
As a matter of fact, Daniel lived during a time
which when a notable king ruled in the earth. You
can look up in almost any history book going back
to about five six six oh five BC, uh, and
you will find that it was a notable king that
ruled the earth in that day. His name was nebul Canzer,

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and Daniel knew him, and the Bible talks about this nebuzza.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah. Well, of course, remember Daniel was one of those
young men that was brought to Babylon captive.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
That's correct, this king, that's correct because of the great
apostasy in Israel.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yes, during Daniel's time. Every time you come with those
big terms, I want you to other people well to
understand what we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Israel itself had had fallen from truth because they started
worshiping idols and false gods and treating the poor with hardness,
and and so Daniel maintained his faith in the Israelite apostasy.
So when he went to Babylon, he was faithful to God.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
There.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
So a posta say, is falling away from the truth, right, right,
So can we say then that Christianity today has been
going far away into apostasy.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
That's a good application. We are living in a similar
time as Daniel. Okay, well lived in his time. Okay,
so history repeats, Yes, all right, Pastor Park, So.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Bye, by the way, can I say the same thing,
Let me say same thing I said in previous program.
I want to tell you openly, I'm very happy that
you became the President Chairman of the General Assembly of
Free Cell and a Venders. And I want you to know.
I want all my friends to know across the land,
and I'm praying for you. God gave you wisdom. I'm

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sure my past people will say the same thing. So
you can guide that worldwide organization. And then uh, we
hope and pray that we are not the only one
that's right, that's going to be safe. We know, God
ask many people out there.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Hey man, thank you so much. Okay, go ahead the
book of So what happened was it's amazing and that
Daniel was taken captive, as Pastor Perez just correctly said,
by this king nebu Knezzar, Now what something happened? One night,
neybe Kenza had a dream. He had a dream, and
his dream troubled him. He troubled him, and when he

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woke up, he asked if all of his wise men
could tell him what to tell him what the dream meant.
But he also wanted them to tell him what he
what he dreamed, because he go ahead, he forgot the dream. Yes,
this is such a well known story. Let's go a
little quickly over here. So he forgot the dream. Yes,

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he didn't know of course, the intern right. And who
he called his soothsayers, his astrologers, all his wise men, magicians, stors,
he called them all, and he asked them, tell me
what I dreamt, and tell me what it meant. And
they couldn't do it, and they kind of gotten angry

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with the king said, nobody has ever asked any such
a counselor such a thing as this before, and.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
That the gods whose dwelling is not with flesh in
their mind, God didn't dwell with flesh.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, they said, that's the only one that could reveal
it to them, is it right?

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (07:33):
But what happened was they couldn't do it, and so
Dan sow Kniza got very upset and he said he
was going to destroy all of them, including their families.
Now Daniel was uh he was one of the royal
seed from Jerusalem, so he was naturally going to be
used as a wise man too. But Daniel was not
there on that meeting. So Daniel heard that he was

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going to be killed, his friends was going to be killed.
And Daniel said, he asked the arioch, the captain of
the why is the dream? So why is this decrease
so hasty from the king? And he told them what happened.
And Daniel said, let let me talk with Nebekanazar. Let
me ask if he will give me time. And I'm
sure that God will give me the dream and the interpretation.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
See does something that we should all because if we
just read this story or talked about this story on
radio across the land, just for saying it, just to
fill the time, we'll be wasting our time and funds
and all this thing. But it is a spiritual lessons
that we all can learn from, that's right. Daniel acknowledge

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the God of heaven yes, to be the source of
wisdom and you know, and guidance. That's right. Nowadays we
see so much, so many issues and problems and riots
and chaos and calamities, and I mean it's a mess.

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This all world is a mess. People talk about peace
and safety and prosperity at the same time we hear
war and rumors of war and destructions everywhere. Don't you
think brother Patrick, that we should be like Daniel today.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yes, yes, go ahead, Yes, we should be like Daniel,
and especially like Daniel in chapter one, who gained a
great victory there because he chose to eat a vagan diet,
that vegetables and that which was grown and water, a
simple vegan diet. And God blessed him and his three friends.

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And that's where they God blessed them with wisdom and
understanding and all visions and shames.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
And another thing too, that we saw on Daniel, that
he decided on his heart not to contaminate it, not
to be contaminated with the wine of Bobby l Right. Nowadays,
if we want my friends out there to understand the Bible,
please ask for wisdom like Daniel did in his friends,

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not to be contaminated with the fermented wine of the
modern day Barbylon.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Please, you're talking about doctrine, doctrines. Oh, thank you, because
this quote unquote spiritual wine of spiritual Babylon really dulls
the senses and confuses the mind. It takes a it
takes got a long time to try and to cleanse
the mind of Babylonian wine.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Right. Yes, the babylon today is more it's not geographically
right there in the northern part of Jerusalem. It is
world why, it's a world wide movement, world wide religion,
and their teachings as being spread throughout the kings, through

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all the leaders of the nations, and as in the
Daniels time, everybody's been drunk with those false teachings, false traditions.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
As a matter of fact. As a matter of fact,
the word Babylon means confusion, and Nebu Knezer here from Babylon,
the king of Bablon was absolutely confused. He did not
know what was going on in his dream, but he
knew it was significant, and so he knew he needed
to know the answer. So we see that Daniel was

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granted time, and so he did something that we should
all do. He took his friends who believed in God,
and he asked him. He had a prayer meeting. He said,
can you pray for me? Can you pray that God
will deliver this dream? Because I have no wisdom, I
don't know what this dream means. And God did it,
and he came out and he knew the dream. And

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the first thing that all three of them did well,
actually four Daniel and his three friends they gave God
the glory. They thanked him, They thanked them.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
So we should be like Daniel and his friends, keep
praying while we see all this chaotic things around the world.
We have to keep praying, praying and teaching to the
whole world. As Daniel was teaching, explaining that the prophetic
events about to take place, correct because this prophecy actually

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what God revealed to the king it was he didn't
know or to Daniel. It was the history to come
right all of the great kingdoms.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
As a matter of fact, the Bible says here. The
Bible says here in verse twenty eight, it says, oh
this is this is Daniel talking to He said, but
there is a God in heaven that reveals secrets and
maketh known to the king Nebuk what shall be in
the latter days. So this dream was about Nebukaneza's time

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all the way down to the ladder or the last days.
So this dream was about us during this time. That's
why we're talking about it. Tea us including us, and
we will see it briefly over here. So can we
go what was the first thing that got revealed to
Daniel about that dream?

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Daniel talked to Nebu Canzer, and he told him the
dream that he saw this image. The head was of gold,
the arms and breast were of silver, and the belly
and thighs were brass. And then the legs were legs
of iron, but the feet were clay, mixing in with
the iron. A feet of iron and clay. And then

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a stone came that was cut out without hands and
smote the image at the feet. And this image was
was broken into powder blown away, and that stone became
a great mountain and filled the whole earth.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Now, let's remember when Daniel was giving the interpretation of
this dream, who was the nation in power at that time?

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Next, what well Daniel said to Nebu can thou art
the head of gold. He starts giving the interpretation, and
then he says, after thee come another kingdom inferior to
thee that wast Persia. Yes, yes, right there, Daniel, Chapter eight,
Persia coming.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
And the Bible, actually the Bible grees with history, actually
tells us that after the meads in the Persians, it
was the Grecian Empire headed by Alexander the Great that
took over other means in the Persians. And the dream
god represented this kingdom as brass or bronze. And it's
interesting this was hundreds of years before Greece came upon

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the scene. And then when Greece comes upon the scene,
what are they known for? Bronze shields, brass swords. It's
absolutely amazing.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Unbelievable and a little lesser in power than the previous
game kingdom that one than.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
The legs of iron that represented the brutal kingdom of
pagan Rome, the broken pieces and stamped.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Right, did that happen? Did that happen?

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yes, yes, after that.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
That was from one sixty eight to four seventy six AD.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Right, and then also among from from the fourth kingdom,
which was Rome, Pagan Rome got showed to Daniel another
power that What's gonna come different from the fourth barby
Loon meets in Persia, Greece and the Pagan Rome. Different

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from those kingdom, which was the power that What's gonna come?
We don't have to name it. I just want to
look for the description that was.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
They were talking about the clay mixing in with the
iron at the feet. This was actually the second phase
of the Fourth Empire, okay, and clay represents in Jeremiah
Chapter eighteen, verse six, God's Church. But this is a
myri claim, would be a worldly church system mingling mingling
in with pagan rome, and you can there's only one

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entity that fills that characteristic where church and state are
mixed together.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Now, right, I think it's so clear to the our
friends of their readilar listeners that we don't have to
name it. I just want to be given the characteristic
because in this dream, the word of God speak by itself.
That's right. We don't have to act, we don't have
to delete anything.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
So we're living in the time of the feet of
iron and clay right now.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
We have been leaving for centuries under that right, the
only thing that we're waiting now is the biggest stone
gummy to destroy all the skin cornerstone.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yes, I just want to emphasize a point that brother
Patrick Jones just mentioned, giving emphasizing the hint that he
gave so our listeners can go and study for themselves. Now,
remember this last power was iron mixed with clay. Now,
he just correctly showed and gave a Bible verse said
that clay will represent church. Now, remember what did the

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iron represent? The iron represented rome, So it was a
Roman power and a church, a Roman system, right right,
And it is a Roman is a church organization and
it has Rome in it. And so I just want
to give that hint so that you can know and
study for yourself to see what this power was. Now,

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I want to mention something else. The Bible said that
this power came in among the feet. Now, how many
toes does the feat does new feet have? When you
count both? It's ten? Ten, It's ten. Now, it's interesting
that this power came up among ten ten mighty kingdoms
of Europe. So this was a European power that was

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a church and was connected with Rome.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Wow, and very interesting. One of the evidence that we
got also that it was going to be I think,
I say religious system, the one that came out of
the Fourth Kingdom, which was the Pagan Room. It was
because the power Daniel says in the Book of Daniel,

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chapter seven, God was showing to him verse twenty five
that this system, this organization would think to change God's law?
Can you read it this?

Speaker 3 (18:25):
And we'll be looking into this a little bit more
in a later program.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
But I just want to lay out the foundation over here, right,
and this program.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Daniel seven twenty five says, speaking of this same power,
and he shall speak great words against the most high,
and shall wear out the saints of the most High,
and think to change times and laws, and they shall
be given into his hand until a time and times
and the dividing of time.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Now, this prophecy is so clear that even I believe
a child can understand it.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yes, you have to understand just one point, and that
is a time and times represents three and a half years,
but a day in prophecy represents a year. So there's
twelve hundred and sixty days three and a half years
representing twelve hundred and sixty years. That's why we were
talking about we've been living in the feet of iron
and clay for centuries.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Now, and I just want to remind our our radio
listeners that for more information on these topics, we also
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Speaker 4 (19:50):
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Speaker 1 (20:32):
The system. By the way, the system, it's not us.
God is the one of his said it. There was
a system that was going to come out of this
fourth Kingdom, the Pagan room. And the system is described
as what the system of what Robert badgeic and state
it's called papal room. The system, not the people of

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the Anti Christ. Okay. I want to emphasize about the
system because jeez, as many people in there okay, and
Jesus is on miss mercy like he did on me
and millions of people, okay, bringing all this prophecy so
we can see the truth and hear the voice of

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revelation of eighteen one through four. What is the call
that God is giving today to all those dear people
God's people that are still involved into this system of iron,
iron and the mighty Clay, you know, Mighty Clay.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
The call is in Revelation eighteen four where God calls
his people to come out of Babylon that they would
be not partakers of the sins of that organization.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
I have a question for you past the park. If
Jesus is the one who brings this prophecy, the source
of this is God, could this be a message that
God sending of hatred or you know, a negative message
to the human rights.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Absolutely not. It has to be a message of love,
because it's a message of warning, and it's not just
warning people that's in the system of Iron and myrie Clay.
It's a message of love for all those outside of it,
you know, all of us and all of us the
whole world. As a matter of fact, this message, this
dream takes, the setting of the dream is the whole world,

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because these different kingdoms rule the whole world. So this
is a message of love to the entire world. Now
it's interesting because the next thing that happens was the
dream said. In the dream it said there was a
stone that was cut out without hands.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
But before that, Barbylon Nabucos, he raised up a huge
image all of gold right in reaction and reaction.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
He did not want his kingdom to end.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Okay, he was very proud, he was very rich. That's right.
In the same way nowadays, we should be expecting a
huge image type spiritual image that is going to be
raised up, okay by by the modern day Babylon, okay,
in which everybody is going to be forced to worship

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that image, not only the people in there and Babylon,
but even the Hebrews like Daniel and his friends, all
the Jews were there, everybody Amazing how history repeats, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yes, But Nebukinezer tried to rewrite history into the future,
making an image all of gold. He wanted his kingdom
last forever. We're living at the end of the image
and the feet of iron and clay. People are trying
to rewrite the history and making it look all of
gold again, like the Dark Ages where a golden period
when church and state were mixed together. And so wow,

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God's going to God wants us to learn from this prophecy.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
That's another thing for many people, they think that this
is not important because this is just history. You know
why you're bringing us history to us? Well, what does
the Bouble said about the history.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
That history will repeat and that God you remember what
it's foutsistics nine and three fifteen.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Do you want to read it? Okay, it's very well
known texts. We've been using the one verse nine thing
in the TV program too.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be,
and that which is done is that which shall be done.
And there's no new thing under the sun. And then
verse three, verse fifteen says that which hath been is now,
and that which is to be hath already been.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
So we had to be paying attention of what took
place in the past.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
That's fair, yes, And so the next thing in the
dream is very significant. The Bible said there was a
stone that was cut out without hands, and it smote
the image at the feet. Now we need to find
out what does God mean about this stone? Will and
Acts chapter four, in verse and verse eleven, speaking of Jesus,
it says, this is the stone which was said that

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all of you builders, which has become the head of
the corner. He's almost talking about Nebu Kenz's dream has
become the head because remember the stone became a huge
mountain that filled the whole earth. So this stone is Jesus.
This is speaking of the Second Advent or the second
coming of Christ. And noticed something, friends, listen, The stone

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or the which represents the second coming of Christ did
not come at the time when the Head ruled or
Nebuknezer or Babylon. It did not come in the time
of the means in the Persians or Greece or even
Pagan Rome. Came during the time of which this church system,
this union of church and state exists Roman Iron with

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the Myrie clay. And so this is our time. So
it's telling us that we can expect Jesus to come
during the time and which we live.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yes, brother, you got twelve seconds. Okay.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
This is a stone which the builders rejected. They rejected
him by preaching a false Christ that's not biblical of
Christ that came in sinless immaculate flesh.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Okay, I'm sorry. We have to conclude today this program
just to remind you all, yes, we can be for
sure going paying attention to the Word of God, especially
these prophetic events taking place at this a time while
we see chaos and disasters for all over. We are

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called to get into the world of God, my friends,
get into the world of God and be safe. God
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Speaker 3 (27:40):
God bless you.