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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Really welcome, my friends.
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You're listening to the Voice of the Eternal Gospel, a
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founded in nineteen eighty two, my seven day a dentist believers.
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This is a Christian program.
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Dedicated to bring to you the prophetic fulfillment, warnings and
revelations of the end time and to promote the advancement
of Christ's character in your life. I am Pastor Raphile Peres,
and I invite you to have a.
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Word of prayer.
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Dear Heavenly Father, thank you once again for the opportunity
you give us to go deep in your word. Give
us understanding, Guide us with your Holy Spirit, and may
you be our teacher. Help us understand the important truths
that we need for this end times, and help us
also have discernment and open minds when we see things
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that may be different from what we've known all our lives.
Help us all, Lord, and please be with us in
our audience in Jesus name, Amen.
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Man Amen.
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We end up the program. The previous program when we
were undalyzing through the Bible.
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The crisis a messiah.
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The Christ is a messiah, and we will have improving
that specifically by using Daniel chapter nine, verse twenty five.
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And oh, show you that Daniel nine is the actual
event not of the Antichrist, but of the Messiah himself, right.
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Especially in the seven years from the year twenty seven
AD to the year thirty four.
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So going and I got you off when we were
talking about the new covenant, Governor, is what it was the.
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Back were actually did them with the confirment of the company.
Because the issue is that when Jesus died on the cross,
did he do away with the law? Now we're going
to see from Daniel chapter nine, verse twenty seven that
God does not do away with the law. Jesus' life
confirms that the law can be kept in human flesh
a man.
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And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week,
and in the midst of the week he shall cause
the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the
overspreading of abominations, he shall make it desolate even until
the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
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Okay, now there's a lot said here, but I wondered,
first of all bring out this point. He shall confirm
the come to many for what.
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For one week?
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One week?
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One week was the last seven years. In the midst
of the week, we found out that Christ would be
what crucified right, but not for himself, because the Lord
had laid on him what the iniquity of us?
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All.
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Christ was dying in our stead right, spotless son of God,
the Prince of Heaven, was dying for a lost worldly man,
because the Lord had laid on him what the iniquity
of us? All the Bible said, why will we yet, sinners?
Christ died that he might say, say, listen carefully, now,
let's go a bit closer. Then, First of all, let's
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prove about the issue of the covenant, right quick.
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Let's go it.
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Say that He's gonna confirm the covenants. So what is
the covenant? Let's be sure Doom four thirteen.
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And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded
you to perform, even ten commandments, and he wrote them
upon two tables of stone.
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Okay, he's wrote on two tables of stone. So the
covenant is the law of God. The ten commandments and
Psalms eighty nine thirty four. What is God say about
his covenant? Just to be sure, that Christ is not
doing away with the covenant.
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Listen carefully, my covenant. Will I not break nor alter
the thing that he's gone out of my list So
God will.
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Not break his covenant. He will not alter his covenant.
His covenant is the Ten Commandments. So Christ is confirming
the covenant, or that the power to keep the Ten
Commandments in human nature, and listen is very carefully. Jesus
does not have the nature of Adam before the fall.
Though he is divine, he will use none of his
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own divine power. He is dependent upon the Holy goals
as much as you and I are depending upon the
Holy goals.
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Can we give a Bible verse? A couple of Bible
verse at least I think Romans chapter three.
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Let me see Romans eight three, eight three. Okay, what
law can not do se in the week through the
flesh gods, And it's on sudden likeness in the likeness
simple flesh, and forcing condemned sin in the flesh.
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Right, Okay, that's one.
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Plus it came in the there's another verse, but he
says that he came from the seat of.
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Abraham Hebrews two.
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Go to Hebrews chapter two, and this verse fourteen I
think it's fourteen down thirteen fourteen like that?
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Okay, can you yeah?
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Hebrews chapter two it shows you right here. It says
this because very carefully in Hebrews chapter two.
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Okay, while you go there.
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Right there, right here, For verily he took not upon
him the nature of angels. Now nature of angels. Here
is talking angels who were sinless basically and all right,
and have been mortality when Adam fell Adam. Adam, before
Adam's fall, he had immortality, all right. When Jesus comes
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to this world, he comes fourteen generations after the fall
of Adam. Therefore, when he comes, he comes in the
nature of man after the fall. Not the nature man
before the fall, but the nature man after the fall
is a sinful nature, all right. But Jesus is not
how the propensities of sin. Though he's in falling flesh.
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He is not yielded to sin even by word or thought,
all right. So therefore that's why Jesus could turn around
and say, which of you convinced me of sin? And
in Saint Corinthians five seventeen five twenty one it says,
for he has made him to be sin for us,
who what knew no sin. The Lord laid on him
and nick with was all that sin for us. But
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he knew himself, knew no what, knew no sin. So
he cries some stuff and that sin for fairly? What
nature did he take?
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Now?
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For fairly verse sixteen, he's not on.
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Him the nature of angels. But he took on him
the seed of Abram, seed of Abraham.
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And Abraham was what seven generations after the fall. Basically,
so let's go a little closer. Wherefore, so Christ took
on the nature man after the fall, not the nature
man before the fall. He was of the seat of Abraham.
And he's also of the seed of who David.
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That's Chumpter one, verse one through three. Read that for
us Rumans chapter one, verse one through three. That's really
because this is important. Many people say, well, it's impossible
for me to keep the law because I'm not Jesus. Well,
but Jesus came with our humanity after four thousand years
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of falling in sing right. Yes, now, it's true that
by our self we can catch Likewise, Jesus depend on
his father. I do nothing, I do nothing well my own,
but it's through my father.
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Now, And even though Jesus was divine, he did not
use his own divine power. He's dependent upon the Holy Spirit,
and he demonstrates when a man has the Holy Spirit
in his life, he is able to walk in obedience
to the law of God. Therefore, that's why he said, verrely,
I said to nicodemisad verally bad, I said, you must
be born again. So people who are born again and
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have the Holy Spirit have the power to keep God's commandments,
and not people who are carnal minded or professing to
be Christ in Christ, but have rejected the power of
God for the transformation of their minds to be enlightened
and be born again by the spirit.
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So let's trate Romans chapter one, verse one through three.
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Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle,
separated onto the Gospel of God, which he had promised
afore by his prophets in the Holy Scriptures concerning his
son Jesus Christ, our Lord, which was made of the
seat of David, according to the.
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Flesh, the seat of who of David David. He didn't
say he came with a humanity.
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Of itam before the fall. It's one of those delusions.
The logical delusions was going to introduce in church.
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Yes, But the new theology that has come into many
Christian circles is theology that says that Christ took the
nature of man before the fall, and this theology would
go further to make people believe that Christ had a
power or use the power that was not available to us,
and that's why he could overcome. But we find that
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from the study of close study scriptures that Jesus does
not take the nature of Adam before the fall. He
takes the nature of Adam after the fall. In theological
circles they call it the pre Lapsirian theory versus the
post Lapsyrian. Christ was post Lapsyrian. He took the nature
of Adam after the fall. But a lot of theological
circles today that will say Christ was prelapse Syrian, that
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he took the nature of Adam before the fall, and
that's why he could actually carry it out for us,
and that destroys the idea of you and I being
able to overcome sin.
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Yeah, that's right, okay. So moving on with this prophecy
of Daniel Chapter nine, p. Twenty five and on.
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So he confirmed confirm the covenant winning for one week
and caused sacrificing and operations to seek. So right now,
let's go a little closer. So we found out here
that he did the confirment of the covenant. Now let
me ask you a question. Let's go right quick. Now
do we understand that? And we talked about that the
messile was cut off in the midst of the week.
Right now, Now let's see something now, Daniel nine foretails
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something else is going to happen now, Daniel nine twenty seven,
twenty six, look at nine twenty six again to talk
about the people the prince, can you read divorce?
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And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off,
but not for himself. And the people of the Prince
that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary,
and the end thereof shall be with a flood. And
onto the end of the war, desolations are determined.
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Okay, now, let's stop for a moment. The Bible said,
the people of Prince shall come and destroy the city
and the sanctuary. Jesus was crucified in thirty one AD.
There were only three and a half years left for
the seventy week period to be up for the Jews
as a nation. That three and a half years takes us.
Let's start. Let's count from thirty one AD. Three and
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a half years later would take us to the year
what AD thirty four? And in eighty thirty four? Do
you remember anything that happened pacifically that pointed to a
fact that perhaps probationary, the probationary period of the Jewish
nation had actually come to an end.
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Okay, Stephen, look at Acts chapter seven and that's okay
Versus fifty through fifty fifty six, because somebody read it
force fifty through fifty six.
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Has not my hand made all these things?
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This is Stephen giving a testimony of God's power.
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Go ahead, ye, stiff necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears,
Ye do always resist the Holy Ghost as your fathers did?
So do ye? Which of the prophets have not your
fathers persecuted? And they have slain them? Which should before
on the coming of the just One, of whom you
have now the betrayers, sorry, of whom ye have been
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now the betrayers and murders.
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Coming adjust one. Steve is testifying about how they crucify Christ. Yes,
who was a just one all the Messiah. And he said,
now he tells them what who have.
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Received the law by the disposition of angels and have
not kept it?
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Okay? Now notice received keep going.
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When they heard the things, they were cut to the heart,
and they notched on him with their teeth.
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Now here is a testimony coming on the divine inspiration
based off of what the text is saying. Listen carefully, but.
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He being full of the holy ghosts.
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Filled with what full of the Holy ghost So he
speaking Stephen speaking under the power of the Spirit of God.
At this point, yes, this is what he says.
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Looked up steadfastly into heaven and saw the glory of
God and Jesus standing on the right hand of God.
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When we see Jesus standing, what does that mean?
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Now?
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The Bible said he has sat on the right hand
of God. But now he's standing in the right hand
of God. What does standing mean?
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Here?
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Standing indicates that Christ is ceasing. There's a transition being
made in this case. He's He's seek the day Jews,
the Jewish nation as a people, and the eyes of
God through his son. They are now ceased to be
His people as far as a chosen nation. Their day
is a nation for favorite chosen of God has ended.
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Now does that mean they can't be saved? If the
Jewish leaders or any one of them would accept the
Gospel of Jesus Christ, they can still be saved. But
they're no longer God's chosen people as a nation.
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Yes, okay.
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Now, in fact, who is going to be now grafted
in to become God's chosen people or become his.
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Nation or the gentiles?
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The gentiles we're going to see. And that's why over
in in Hebrews chapter two, let me see Romans too.
I believe that's what I'm looking for.
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Tribulation and anguish Ye are.
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Chosen generation of royal priesthood?
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Tight?
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Okay? Twenty nine We go to twenty nine.
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Who's a Jew?
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For he's not a Jew, which is one outwardly. Neither
is that circumcision, which is the outward, which is outward
in the fl But here is the Jew, which is
one inwardly. And circumcision is that of the heart in
the spirit, and not in the letter, whose praise is
not of men but of God.
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To fourteens two fourteen.
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Yes, for when the gentiles, which have not the law,
do by nature the things contained in the law. These
having not the law, are a law unto themselves.
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Right now, so the gentiles came into the picture.
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Comes in the picture. And as a result, what type
of are they a nation? Are Gentiles and Jews now combined,
who accept Jesus Christ, do they make up a nation?
The answer is yes, look here in Hebrew one Peter
two nine.
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But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a
holy nation, a peculiar people that you should show forth
the praises of Him who called you out of darkness
into his marvelous light, which in time past were not
a people, but are not.
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The people of God now the people.
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Of that which had not obtained mercy, but now have
obtained mercy, all right.
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And then noticed it. It's about gentiles too. Listen, look
it very sad eleven and.
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Twelve, Dearly beloved, I beseech you, as strangers and pilgrims,
abstain from fleshly lust which war against the soul. Having
your conversation honest among the gentiles, that whereas they speak
against you as evildoers, they may, by your good works
which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.
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Also, Galicians, please, Galicians, Chapter three, verse twenty six through
twenty nine. Let let's read it, because I hear today
many good people trying to apply that the prophecy of
the Old Testament to the literal Israel still today as
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a fact that the people that have been caught up
with the that bring the seven.
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Years of the the future of the.
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Future, they still believe that in Israel they're going to
be a temple and the Messiah is going to be there,
the Antichrist is going to come when indeed the system
of the under Christ has been for many centuries. But
this text, along with the ones that you've been reading,
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prove to us that after the year thirty four, God
made made out of the June, Gentiles and Jewish just
one people, one nation.
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Really carefully, please.
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Slowly, Galatians three, twenty six through twenty nine. Right for
you are all the children of God by faith in
Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been
baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
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Okay, now pay attention to the next text.
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There is neither June nor Greek. There is neither bond
nor free. There is neither male nor female free. Year
all one in Christ Jesus.
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How many now are they? This was not after before
the year thirty four. This message came in as a
result of the Jewish people rejecting us a nation. Okay, nation, yes, okay,
go ahead the first nine.
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And if ye be chrisis, then are ye abraham seed
and heirs according to the promise?
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Okay? Who are abraham seeds?
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Now?
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After the year thirty four? It came on after Christ.
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All of us were children of God by faith in Christ.
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Who are you the spiritual?
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The gentiles and the gentiles and Jews born again? So
let's make sure so we know these are gentiles or
Jews or who are born again? Yeah, many who have
received Christ as a Lord and Savior and who believe
God's word and have this law written in their heart.
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And what is istrael light means, by the way, means overcomer, overcomer.
It can be a Jew or it can be a
gentle right. Many times, as we as you know, we
put you know the Sabbath. We talked about the Salvad
seven day Sabbath to the newspaper, billboard, television, so on,
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and so there was a few years ago we published
a full page ad on the biggest paper in Jerusalem.
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It was few years.
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Ago when John pulled the second John Paul the Second
went to Jerusalem. So we want the people to read
about this antime message, right, but the Sabbath, you know
how the Sabbath has been trying to be replaced by
the papers the Sunday and we got letters. We got
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even email that time, even though email was not that popular.
Still from Jerusalem to us saying, oh, we are so
glad to see Gentiles preaching to us a he and
Jerusalem about the seventies hour. So we answered, with all
the respect in love to many of them, said well, respectfully,
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I have to say to you, we are the real Jews,
because if we do, if we are based on what
Paul is saiding here, if you're if you're in Christ,
you are the seats of who. And so if a
Jew is in Christ, it's a set of Can I
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ask you, pastor Ary, if a Jew were just through
several registrations many Jewish friends listen to this program. Okay,
can we say, respectfully to them if they are not
in Christ, can they really beat you according to what
we're reading?
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No, respectfully No, because of the fact that they were
they were for many centuries. They were God's chosen people.
There was no doubt about it. In the Old Testament
as well, they were to look for the messiahs coming.
But unfortunately that during the time of the Roman Empire,
especially many of the Jews had been circularized through false education,
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and also they had been committed to keeping the law,
but with extra with rigors and policies and procedures that
were consciously contrary to the word of God. Now in
love for them, Christ came and he died that their
eyes could even be open. And because the leaders wanted
control and power and wanted to maintain their authority over
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the people and have a place with the nation of Rome,
they refused to heed the message of Jesus. As a
result of that, the Jews as a nation the Jewish
Jerusalem forty years after the crucifixion of Christ, after the
rejection of Christ, so Jesus walked away from him that
unto your house is left what Therefore, as a result
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of that, were Jesus was pronouncing that his presence were
no longer and be with them, nor would they be
continued to be God's chosen people. As a result of that,
we find that today many Christians and many different organizations
are trying to tell us that the Jews are God
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still God's chosen people. And it's funny that many of
the Jews, who are not accepted of Christ at all,
even find it laughable Christians to still try to look
to Jerusalem as the chosen spot when they themselves know
that many of them have given up the idea of
believing in the Living God or in Jesus Christ, and
that they are into things like the Kabbalah and different
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of a pagan like pagan judaistic type rituals. All right,
So once we understand that, we understand very clearly that
the true jew was that when the Gospel, the Covenant,
promises that were given to Jews came for given over
to christian Therefore, under that's why Christianity is under the
New Covenant, and under the New Covenant. A Jewish one
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who've accepted Jesus Christ. Rather he be a native Jew
over in Jerusalem, or rather he be a gentile right
here in America, or rather he be whatever professor he
might be, black, white, Hispanic, whatever, whoever accepts Christ. Because
God made man and the purpose of redemptions to restore
man man. In regards of what type of background or
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racial creed you say you are, that doesn't matter. The
issue is do you accept Christ as your Lord and savior?
Do you accept Christ as the one who can redeem
you and clingse you from your sins? And do you
believe that He will come back again? And do you
believe that He promised you immortality and the eternal life
begins by faith? Now when you accept him?
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I mean, guys said something spending on some of you know,
at least the two of you know. I have a
good friend. He's a trademark attorney, treemark attorny Jewish man.
Came very friend, very close and by the way, he
listened to this program often every time I talk to him,
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he's trying to catch up with me. But there staying
is a Jew O very orthodox, okay, But throughout the years,
because of our friendship and because of a he represented
me in our ministry in one of the cases, he
has begun to understand this issue and so much that
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even his own family now he said that he's afraid
of him. He said, you're no longer a Jew.
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You are more than seven.
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The avents because I mean, he reads our Bible, reads
our books, or he's in love with the spirit of
prophecy books, and he understands, he understands the important that
the role that Jesus must play in our life. Without Jesus,
there is no life. Jesus says, whoever got the song life?
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If you don't have the song my friends, like as
I tell my friend, my Jewish friend, if you don't
have Jesus the Messiah, you cannot have its other life.
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You are not of Israelite, You're not an Israelite.
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Okay, So this is important to understand it because in
the last Book of Revelation it described a remnant one
hundred and forty four thousand from the tribes of Israel.
But what Israel is and that can be a study
for another time. May maybe we should bring that up
in another program. Okay, So pay attention to following programs,
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because we're going to prove with the Bible that those
one hundred and forty four thousand are not literal Jews,
no spiritual Jewish, spiritual Israel lie. But anyway, let's leave
that aside for now.
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Let's move on.
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And now we find that since we've looked at this
issue of the seventy weeks, and we understand now that
the seventy weeks ended in thirty four AD. Now they're
still because the seventy weeks was cut out from. Remember
in Daniel nine, it says seventy weeks are determined upon
thy people. The word determined means to be cut out.
So what was the seventy weeks originally cut out from?
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To have a starting point too, that we're going to
find it. It was cut out from the two thousand,
three hundred days, all right, So the seventy weeks and
the twenty three days have the same starting point, but
seventy weeks are cut out from the twenty three days,
all right. The seventy weeks started in four forty seven,
it ended in thirty four a d Now, how many
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years do we have left? Eight and ten years and
ten years? And you subtract thirty four from it, and
you add thirty four years to I'm sorry, and you
come up with eighteen forty four.
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Let's wait right there. Unfortunately, our time is up for today.
Let's keep, you know, going deeper and deeper into this
Bible prophecy which you and me can be found the Yes. Indeed,
we are living in the time of the Judgment, the
time of the end in Jesus want all of us
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to get ready for His coming.
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