The Weekend 9-7-24 Hour 1: The Climate Industrial Complex Explained

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The night. Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA
director of talk show host Michael Brown.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Brownie, no, Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job
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Let's let's get started by going back in time. You

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know how I often refer to the homeless industrial complex
or the climate change industrial complex. Well, there are there
are all sorts of complexes industrial complexes that we now
deal with. And in the broad scheme of things, if

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you and I as conservative slash libertarians, slash Republicans, whatever
label you want to put on us, if we are
right of center on the political spectrum, and we believe
in smaller government, and we actually believe in the Constitution,
and we actually believe that the words mean what they say,
then you know as well as I do that the

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reason the left and even people like Dick Cheney, which
I am going to address Dick Cheney later in the program,
because he's pissed me off again. You have to recognize
that one of the reasons that everybody so despises Donald
Trump is he is a disruptor. And I find that
fascinating because we often think of disruptors as people that

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we admire, that we idolize to some degree because a disruptor,
you know, Steve Jobs was a disruptor making fun of
iPhones and text messages. That can the well go back
even before the iPhone, think about the iPod. Doesn't that
seem like ancient history has talked about an iPod, But

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have you ever thought about how revolutionary an iPod was?
I mean, I'm old enough to remember when you know,
oh man, eight tract tape, Oh this is pretty good,
and then cassette tapes, and then came along CDs. Oh man,
we're moving cool, and then the iPod, and we put
thousands of songs on an iPod. You know, I don't

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have many songs I actually have downloaded on my phone
because I have my own lot personal library. Plus I
have you know, I subscribed Apple Music, so I have
access to millions of songs on my iPhone. Steve Jobs
was a disruptor, and we we we admire that because
disruptors tend to push us forward. They progressed. And I

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don't mean in a political sense. We progress technologically, we
progress socially, we progress economic. You know, Henry Ford was
a disruptor. Think about what Henry Ford did. We are
we are as reliant on our automobiles now as we
are on the stupid iPhones for the smartphones. Well, I

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think that Trump is a political disruptor, and he is
a political disruptor because he recognizes, you know, one of
the let me back up, keep in mind that Trump's
a disruptor. One of the things that was shocking, I
mean shocking to me the first week that I showed

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up in Washington, d C. Back with the inauguration of
George W. Bush in January of two thousand and one.
I was overwhelmed, truly overwhelmed, because there is you know,
when I showed up in my office, Now I hadn't

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been sworn in yet, so I officially couldn't do anything.
But people knew that I was going to be, you know,
the go to guy now, so the bureaucrats, the civil
servants would come to me, okay, well, you know, we
got to make a decision about this, and we know
that you officially can't do it, but if you'll tell
us what you want to get done, then we'll go
do that. And the it was like drinking front you know,

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the stereotypical phrase drinking from a fire hose, but it
was it wasn't just drinking from a fire hose. That
was overwhelming. It was overwhelming to me to recognize that
there was this vast bureaucracy which I knew existed, but
until you get thrown into the middle of it, it's like,
let me make a graphic comparison. We all know that

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we have a large and small intestine. We don't really
think about how it works except when it's actually working
in we have to go eliminate. Well, it's like getting
thrown into your small intestine and you start working your
way until you pop out the other end and you realize,
holy cal what was that. That's the federal bureaucracy, a

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giant intestine, and it's full of what you would expect
in intestine to be full of. And so I was overwhelmed.
It was like, holy crap. There, well, no pun intended,
there holy crap, there is all this stuff that I
came in here thinking, literally thinking, you can call me naive,
but I was there for my little part of the world,

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and we were gung ho. We were going to change things.
We were going to disrupt things, we were going to
change the way the government did business. We were going
to do all of this stuff. And I suddenly realized that, well,
you know what, if we want to accomplish twenty things,
we might want to pair that down to ten things,

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or maybe even six things, so you might be able
to get uh, you know, not quite half of what
you wanted to get done done because of the permanent bureaucracy.
Trump recognizes that, and Trump recognizes that if he's truly
going to have if he's truly going to change Washington,

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he can appoint every person that thinks like me to
every single cabinet position, sub cabinet position, all of the
sum three thousand appointees that a president can make, and
it won't make a difference. Oh we will on the margins.
There'll be little things changed here or there, little policy

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changes this or that. But to truly change the federal
government in the way that we wanted to change to
get it back to kind of this, you know, legislative
branch of enumerated and limited powers and executive branch that
is not all powerful and all seeing. Then you're going
to have to literally change the way people are hired

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and fired. You're going to have to change of culture.
And for any of you who've ever worked for well,
it doesn't make any different small or large corporation, doesn't
make any difference. You know that every business has its
own culture and to change that culture is like pushing
a noodle uphill. It can be done, but it's difficult.
So what industrial complex am I thinking about? Am I

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and twenty three in Michael Brown. So Eisenhower, President, former
President Eisenhower, I know none of you remembering. I don't
really remember him either. Warn this in the councils of government,

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we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether
sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. In fact,
he said it this way.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment.
Our arms must be mighty ready for instant action, so
that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his
own destruction. Our military organization today bears little relation to
that known of any of my predecessors in peacetime, or

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indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.
Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States
had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshairs could, with
time and as required, make swords as well, But we

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can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense. We
have been compelled to create a permanent armainance industry of
vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million
men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishments.
We annually spend on military security alone, more than the

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net income of all United States corporation corporations. Now, this
conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms
industry is new in the American experience. The total influence, economic, political,
even spiritual is felt in every city, every state house,

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every office.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Of the federal government.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
We recognize the imperative need for this development, yet we
must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil,
resources and livelihood are all involved, so is the very
structure of our societies. In the councils of government. We
must guard against the acquisition of unwanted influence, whether sought

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or unsought, by the industrial complex. The potential for the
disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We
must never let the weight of this combination endanger our
liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted.

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Only an alert and knowledgeable citizen rate can compel the
proper measuring of the huge industrial and military machinery of
defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security
and liberty may prosper together.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
That is so brilliant, so brilliant of a statement. And
yes it's all, I mean, every single thing if he
said right there is so freaking true. We need a
military arms complex. We need it because we can't depend

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on those who make says or in his in his vernacular,
they can't immediately turn plowshares into swords. So we need
somebody who's gonna make swords, because in the in the
modern world, you know, post World War two, post Korea,
the world is a dangerous place. And to maintain this

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American order that we have that keeps everything kind of
at bay, except when you have a week president or
a weak nation or a weak economy. That is what
maintains the peace throughout the world. But the potential for
disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. That

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cautionary message also applies to the climate industrial complex, because
there you have just like you know, and today, I
could do the pharmaceutical industrial complex. I could, I could
choose almost any sort of economic vertical and do essentially

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the same story I'm doing right now. So what is
the climate industrial complex. It's a combination of government power,
scientific research with air quotes around the word scientific, and
corporate interests. So where you have a combination of government power,

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scientific research, and corporate interest that can skew public perception
and policy towards fearmongering. And they also that combination then
has enormous economic gains rather than what you would consider

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or at least I would consider to be genuine environmental stewardship.
You don't hear this much anymore. The people used to
say if you if you were a Republican, you did
not care about the environment. And I always found that
fascinating as someone who grew up hunting and fishing and

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you know, loves the outdoors. Loves the wilderness areas in
the beautiful mountains of the Rocky Mountains or the San
Juan Mountains or the Sangre de Cristo's someone who loves
watching pheasants fly up out of a wheat field when

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you're just walking through and the pheasants flesh up. Oh
my god, this is a wonderful world. It's truly a
wonderful world. But I'm also a realist, and I'm more
than willing to make certain trade offs to have a
modern society where the environment is going to be not perfect,

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because the only way for the environment to be perfect,
in the minds of many environmentalists, is just for the
elimination of mankind. And I guess call meo radical, but
I'm not for the elimination of mankind. I believe that
God put us on this planet for a reason and
we should advance, and quite frankly, I believe that the
more that we advance technologically economically, the better we are

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at solving environmental problems. But the climate industrial complex is
what I'm referring to as a coalition of green tech companies,
environmental non government organizations, a absolute compliant dominant media, and
certain political entities that do what create alarmism all the

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time so they can drive support for their agendas. That's
the kind of thing that Donald Trump wants to disrupt.
But let's think about how they're creating alarmism. It's the
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Brown joins me here the former FEMA.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Director of talk show host Michael Brown.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Brownie, No, Brownie, You're doing a heck of a job
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a text message that said, Mike, I really hope you
can be happy today. I'm happy every day. Sometimes I'm
pretty pissed off about stuff, but kind of look around you.
There's a lot of stuff to you know, to really
be happy about. But there's a lot of stuff to
be worried about too. So let's go back to the
climate industrial complex. And like I said, when you think

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about what it is, the coalition of of all the
green tech companies that do what, think about just what
each component does. So the green technology companies, Now, I
don't make it. I don't want to make a blanket
or a generalization here, because some green some green technology
companies actually do end up producing a commercially viable product.

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But the majority of green tech companies simply get get
bookoo dollars from federal grants to pursue some pipe dream
that never is commercialized, never comes to fruition, just remains
some idea, and the people in the company pay themselves

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big fat ass salaries, and they end up spending all
the government you know, subsidy that they got the grant
money they got and then they file bankruptcy. Remember Clendra,
the solar panel company, billions of dollars bankrupt. So the
green tech companies, they live off the taxpayers because those

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federal grants come from the income taxes that you pay,
whether you pay through a good or a service that
you buy from a company where you're paying the corporate tax,
or you pay your own personal income taxes. And then
you have the environmental non government organizations. Those are the

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advocacy groups. So all the NGOs that you can think
of that go out and lobby Congress to implement laws,
you know, environmental laws, environmental restrictions, mandates about evs, whatever
it might be that they're advocating. The list is just endless. Well,
they too end up getting federal grants. Now think about that.

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So the environmental NGOs get money from the federal government,
which is money from you, so they can then turn
around and lobby the federal government that just gave them
money to go do that. And the people in those
NGOs also pay themselves big fat ass salaries too. Do
you get the idea if this is just a giant

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money laundering that's what the federal government is. Well, yes,
that's why it's the in this case, it's the environmental
the climate, it's the climate crisis industrial complex. And then
you have those entities, the political entities that drive alarmist
narratives to drive public support for their agendas. You know,

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there are either giant organization you know, you know. I'll
give you an example, and this is an example that
every one of you can go recognize and you can
go watch it yourself. While I was on vacation over
the Labor Day weekend, I did. I tried to stay
away from a lot of online stuff because I was

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just you know, busy reading and enjoying time away. But
I did tune in to because of where we live,
it's kind of hard to get any sort of really
good TV service. So I was I watched the network news.
And the way I watched the network news is I'll
turn on one and then see what their lead story
is and quickly turn on to the next two to

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see what they're doing, because usually they're all all the same.
And what I noticed was there's now a trend that,
for example, Phoenix has been going through a heat wave.
I know, shocking, right that in late August early September,
Phoenix is having one hundred degree days. Huh shazam. Who
could have seen that coming? But that was the lead

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story or that you know, there's a by the way
hurricane season. Well wait a minute, I thought we were
going to have the most disastrous hurricane season since you
know Katrina. And I'm looking around it's like, what happened
to that? See, it's not just what they do talk about,
which is a heat wave in Phoenix in August and September,

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Holy crap, batman, who saw that one coming? But what
they don't talk about what they omit, and that is, Oh,
we had all of this alarmism at the beginning of
hurricane season, back when they started doing the predictions back
in April and May about how bad this hurricane season
was going to be. Oh my gosh, there were going
to be billions of dollars in losses. It was just
gonna be all horrible. The hurricane season is not quite

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over yet, so we could still have a really big,
disastrous hurricane, but nobody's talking about for the past several
months mint nothing. So it's comission and omission and they're
driving that fear from all of the people who just

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turn on the TV and just let the osmosis feed
their brains. There was an article in the Financial Times
as an example. I know most of you probably don't
read the Financial Times, and I would tell you don't
waste your money and don't waste your time. I do
it because it's part of my business. But they had
an article about how California is going to try to

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seize profits from big oil companies. The Attorney General Rob
Banta in California is accusing the oil companies of misleading
you and me, as consumers of oil, about the climate
impacts of fossil fuel products. That really, I mean, I

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understand that when I turn on the I'm if I'm
driving my BMWM Sport in its suit duper sport mode
driving mode, I'm burning a lot of hydrocarbons and I'm
putting a lot of emissions into the air. I don't

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I don't need the Do I need a warning label now?
When I put gas in the car, Hey, consumption of
gasoline by your automobile may create emissions and me create
some smog somewhere. I don't need that. But that's pretty
much the arguments like smoking. You know, they sue, they
sue the tobacco companies. And you can argue about whether

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or not those lawsuits were legitimate, but the purpose of
that was to get money from to get money from
the tobacco companies, so the tobacco companies could pay all
of these mngos, then pay the federal government, and then
they could go out and campaign against smoking. And all
the tobacco companies did was just, well, it's just more.

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Let's just sell more cigarettes elsewhere, or let's let's convert
to vaping products. Oh, you got the warning label on
the on the sick pack of cigarettes. Think about a
lawsuit trying to force the oil and gas companies to
pay up because they failed to warn you and me

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about what their products do to the environment. Jimminy Christmas,
I don't need that. The headline was California looks to
seize profits from big oil in climate change lawsuit. Consumer
protection and advertising laws are used to pursue this civil suit.
Go back to Eisenhower for a moment. When Eisenhower talked

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about the dangers of a symbiote, which is what this
is a symbiotic relationship between the military and the industrial
sectors that supply the military. Where it was driven by
profit and power. Well, the same thing is happening here,
the climate industrial complex, this money laundring. It's fueled by

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the pursuit of financial gain and government control. They want
to force you into well, they want to force you
out of your your internal combustion engine car. They want
to force you out of your diesel combustion you know,
eighteen wheeler. They want to force you into an electric vehicle,
which I find fascinating because the electric vehicle needs electricity,

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which you know you need in many instances. If you
want to be efficient, you need natural gas or coal
or nuclear to you know, produce electricity. But oh, we
won't talk about that. These green tech companies, they're going
to profit immensely from a forced, a mandated transition to

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renewable energy sources because they get all these huge subsidies,
and they get all this favorable legislation, all paid for
by you and me, You and me. You know the
stop is for just a moment. I don't know why.
But when I said paid for by you and me,
in my in my little peep pick and brain, it
hit me that how you know what Michael mentioned mentioned

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illegal alien uh illegal immigration here too, because you're also
paying for that. Everything that you see on the news,
you're paying for They're trying to tax you to death.
And then this economic consentive that exists between the climate activists,
the all the congregants in the Church of climate activism,

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and then the green tech companies and the nng os.
What why What does all that lead to? It leads
to the exaggeration of climate risks so they can maintain
a market for the green technologies, which are not relying
on investors always more like they're like relying on taxpayer

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money to the extent that federal energy subsidies and incentives
in fiscal year ending twenty two some fifteen billion for renewables. Yeah,
that's where your money's going. So is it as bad

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that matter. Well, what about any of the real world
examples of climate alarmism we talked about the commission, Like

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in Phoenix, Oh my god, there's a heat wave heat wave. Yeah, well, okay,
it's August September. If you've ever been in Phoenix, you
know it's hotter than hell in August and September. Well,
what about cases of an old mission where they don't
tell you anything, Like they don't tell you about Wait
a minute, we're almost done with hurricane season and we
really haven't had any disastrous hurricanes. Well, it's also true

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with Eastern Antarctica's ice growth, ice growth that's largely ignored
by the cabal, and I think that exemplifies the bias.
There's a study that got very little attention, at least
compared to the alarmist reports on the Thwities Glacier in

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Western Antarctica, which is often dubbed by the cabal as
the doomsday glacier because it's receding. While that glacier is
receding on the western side of Antarctica, on the eastern
side of Antarctica, the ice is growing exponentially, So this

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selective reporting is in my opinion, is truly designed to
skew public perception, and that helps fuel the climate industrial complex.
You know, go back to Eisenhower. Eisenhower, you know, the

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D Day General, the World War Two general. What an
amazing military mind. You might even say he was a
part of the military industrial complex. Yet he had because
of his experience, because of what he did on not

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just D Day, but what he did throughout the Western Front,
Eisenhower had the credibility to actually warn us about the
military very industrial complex. Scientists today are speaking out against
the climate industrial complex. Those scientists emphasize the need for

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balanced and fact based reporting and are trying to warn
against the politicization of science. Any time you start politicizing it,
you know that skewers results. You know, In a totally
unrelated example, Bobby Kennedy was Bobby Kennedy Junior was talking

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sometime late late this week about how much money comes
out of the National Institutes of Health in IH that
go to a limited number of scientists who then pretty
much produce studies that are in compliance with the results
that INIH wants. Well, the same is true with regard

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to the client an industrial complex. You keep getting money
from the Environmental Protection Agency about you know, we want
somebody to study think of the grants. You know, we
want you to study about the dangers of Michael Brown
driving his internal combustion engine up and down the interstate

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in Colorado. Well, that presupposes that there is you know,
damage to the client climate. So they're gonna they're gonna
gear their study to get the result that those who
are paying the freight want. But when you think about

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and I hate this phrase, but I think it's appropriate here,
when you think about our shared experiences, it really does
underscore the challenges faced by those who question the prevailing
narity those dissenting voices, Like I think any DECI voice,

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even a dissenting voice that I disagree with. But we're
now moving into an age where a dissenter is a heretic,
a dissenter regardless of what the issue is. Pick any political, economic, social, international,
whatever topic you want to pick. Dissenters about whatever, the

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conventional wisdom is that the cabal wants you to think about. Well,
this is the way, this is the narrative. We want
you to think. Anyone dissents from that, you're the heretic.
You want an example, look at Brazil. Brazil just shutting
down x formerly Twitter because, oh my gosh, they were

(35:47):
allowing dissenting opinions. They were allowing news reports about what
the Brazilian government and the corruption in their elections. And
we can't have that. Absolutely cannot have that. You know,
as Eisenhower said, only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry. How

(36:07):
often do I talk about an informed citizenry? Well, Eisenhower
back in the fifties, late fifties, early sixties when he
gave that speech, Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can
compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military
machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals. I

(36:28):
would argue this, Only an informed and critically thinking public
can ensure that whatever climate policy we have is driven
by sound science rather than political interests. Right. That's why
we need disruptors, and I think Donald Trump is a

(36:49):
disruptor when it comes to this too. It's going to
take a heavy lift. It's the weekend with Michael Brown.
Hang tight, we'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Adia. The one were rail