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Speaker 1 (00:01):
So Kamala is going to win it. It's a certainty.
She's going to win. What's gonna happen after that?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
How are we going to fix the voting system?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
What do we do? Well? Dragon has a theory, you
do you share your theory.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Dragon, It's not just a theory. It's out there. It's
been out there for a while. The Washington Redskins rule.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Which I've never heard of. Now, by the way, quit
saying the word redskins, because that is so you know,
as a part Cherokee Indian, every time you say that
you've bald had a day hole, I think to myself,
I'm triggered.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I don't you know what my pronouns are. I'm not
ensuring somebody. I'm not sure I can carry on.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
It's fine because Bruce Jenner won the medals, not Caitlyn.
It's fine. You can say Bruce Jenner won. It's fine.
He is now Caitlyn. They were the Redskins whin the
rule came into effect.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
All right, all right? Now? The rule is.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
A rule.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
That's what they call it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
That's what the that's what the who they are.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Immediately now, if the Washington Redskins now the commanders if
they win their final home game prior to the election.
The rule stated between nineteen forty and two thousand that
the incumbent party wins, which has happened every single election
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since nineteen forty to two thousand, four years ago.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Since then, since since two thousand, the rule.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Has now been flipped. So if the Washington Redskins win
their final home game prior to the election, the opposing
party wins the election.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
So have they there? Have they played their last home
game before the election.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
They played their home game against the Bears October twenty
seven and one, eighteen to fifteen.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Ooh close, but they wont.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So that would say, if the new flipped Redskins rule
holds to effect, Trump wins the election, then then why.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Are we even talking about it. It's over, it's done.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Why even hold the election?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Right?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
And interestingly, if the rules in effect from nineteen forty eight,
you said nineteen forty, nineteen forty to two thousand, So
that's sixty years.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
The most accurate predictor of who was going to win
the president.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
So can we assume then that we have another sixty
years of the.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
New rule, let's hope.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
And we've gone twenty four years into the new rule.
Uh huh, okay, so we have thirty six more years
of the new rule.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, you won't be und after that.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's fine.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I will be around the next six days. I don't think,
not the way the day's been going. True. I want
to get to the media for a minute, but before
I do, I want to go to text messages because
this really is a bugaboo of mine, and unfortunately I
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don't have the answers. I can just tell you what
my concern is text messages. Goody number eighty eight seventy seven. Michael,
Why are you talking about counting ballots? Those Democrat heavy
blue counties in Georgia. Those guys know how to count ballots.
They're able to find boxes and suitcases full of ballots,
and they keep counting them for days and days and days,
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even after the election is over. They're the greatest ballot
counters in America. Well, maybe Chicago's really good at counting
ballots as well. Republicans suck at counting ballots. They only
count the ballots that are legally cast by voters. They
just don't know how to count the ballots to overcome
a deficit. Let's see, then there is there were some
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others down here about ballots. I think you're I think
you're implying this is about ballots. Guber number sixty six
ninety eight, Mike. It's an oxymoron, but complication makes it
easier to do nefarious things. Yeah, and I do agree
with that. Zero two three eight, Michael. This is why
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people are disenfranchised and don't vote, because we're run by
a bunch of damn criminals. Let's see thirty seven to
seventy four, Michael. I can't believe the Democrats have done it,
but they run the worst candidate, the worst campaign. I
believe they're trying to just see how much they can
throw at the American people, to see how stupid the
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Democrats and their followers are. Beyond belief. They're spending all
that money for such a lousy Canada just to see
how far they can push the American people. I know
what the answer is, I don't know how to get there.
Anytime you connect anything to the Internet, it is subject
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to getting hacked. Surprisingly shockingly, Dragon, let me ask you,
did you know in Colorado that you can vote online?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Oh? Excuse come again, No.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I didn't know that either. Apparently at I can't. I've
not researched it. But I have a friend who's currently
in Thailand. He's not coming back from Thailand for another
week or two. So we're texting each other the other
day and I just casually said, so, what do you
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you know? Because I knew what time it was in
Bangkok versus here, And I said, so what are you doing?
And for him it was this It was morning. I said,
so what are you doing this morning? And he goes,
I'm filling out my ballot. And I responded and said, well,
are you going to fed exit back because it's not
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going to get there on time if you put it
in a mail.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Oh no, I'm doing it online.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Now that starts an entire text chain about what do
you mean you're doing it online?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
He goes, well, I.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Went online and I requested an online ballot, and I'm
now filling the ballot online.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
In fact, I was.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Hoping that we would text because I got some questions.
I've got some questions about some of these questions. And
I'm like, well, wait a minute, I've got questions about
what you're doing. And he was on his laptop or
his iPad one and one or the other and he
was filling out his ballot. So I go to the
I just quickly go to a quick search, and yes,
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you can request an online ballot.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Now, how secure is that? I don't like to send email?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
In fact, I still have an email service that's based
in Switzerland because I don't trust people intercepting my emails. Now,
do I have anything to hide on my emails? I might,
but I probably don't. But nonetheless I don't want people
reading my emails. I don't want. It's why I don't.
For example, people in this building get mad at me
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because I refuse to put the iHeartMedia email account on
my phone. I don't have my iPad. The only place
I have it is on my desktop in this laptop,
both of which are protected by all sorts of software
programs to encrypt and decrypt and keep people up out
of my hair. Anytime you connect anything to the Internet,
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it's subject to getting hacked. Now, we started out the
program this morning with these passwords, and and and lo
and behold, Kyle Clark, of all people, did some actual
journalism with with Jenna Griswold. I was surprisingly shocked by it.
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And it turns out that there are two sets of passwords,
I assume ones for the bio system and one is
for the software system. The machines are I guess some
machines are in the counties.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Don't don't.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Don't you have to have some machines in the counties already,
because in Douglas County, my ballot's been counted, so my
my ballot's been run through a machine. So that machine's
got to be connected to the to the Internet. And
someone has I was gonna say hacked the pass words,
but acts not the right word. They had posted the spreadsheet,
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and in luck, I assume an Excel spreadsheet on the
publicly available Secretary of State's website. Now, if they're that
stupid to do that, or maybe not stupid, if they're
that sloppy to do that, or they're that nefarious, I pick.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Whatever word you want to use. I don't care.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
What we've done is we have created again. Whether it's dumb,
fat and happy or fat, dumb and happy, I don't
give a rat's ass. But we're dumb, fat and happy, fat,
dumb and happy. So that I have a friend that knew,
and he's known he was going to Thailand forever, well,
forever he's known for at least a year. He was
going to be in Thailand during the election, so I'm
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curious as to why he didn't request an absent deballot.
And I asked him, well, why didn't you? Why don't
need to request absent ballot? And his response was, why
should I when I can do it online. Now he's not, obviously,
as in tune to oh, I don't know the NSA
like I am. He's not the former Intersecretary of Homeland Security.
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He hasn't carried all these clearances and understands exactly what
you know. Nefarious people, including government people, are capable of doing.
So I know that I am don Quixote here, and
I know that I'm tilting in the windmill, tilting in
a lot of windmills. I'm tilting at fifty different state
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windmills that all do a mail in ballots, you know,
or electronic voting. Apparently, how convenient is that just setting
your fat ass at home or set in your fat
ass in Bangkok and cast your ballot there. I just
think it's wrong. Now do I think it's wrong because
I'm a crabby old fart? You can claim that if
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you want to, But I don't think that's the reason
I'm crabby about it. I'm crabby about it because go
back to the text messages. Why are we talking about
county ballots. Those Democrats have blue counties in Georgia. They
know how to count ballots. They're able to find boxes
and suitcases full of ballots. Well, what if they weren't
able to do that. As long as we have all
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of these entry points to cheat, whether there's cheating or not,
they're going to be allegations of cheating. And as long
as there are allegations of cheating, then you're going to
have questionable results. And as long as we have questionable results,
we're going to have people that have no confidence in
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our elections, have no confidence in the outcome of the elections,
and are always going to be spun up, mad, pissed
off and think that the other side's cheating.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Let me move beyond that. Can't we all just get along?
Can we just be all Rodney King? Can we all
just get along? Now?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Can't we all just stop the stupidity? Well, guess what
we can. But and I would venture to say in
this audience, there are people who are who are.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Well, Michael, I love mail in ballots.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
You know, it just kind of it just shows up
my mailbox and I just fill it out and I
send it back. It gets there on time. I'm I
got my email address, so I get a ballot tracks
and notification that my ballot's been mailed, my ballots been received,
and my ballots being counted.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
So what are you bitching about? Well, I'm bitching.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
About all of the other things. You in particular may
not have a problem, but it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Else that we have a problem. I don't have a
problem with my ballot. Now.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
The problem I do have my ballot is was it
counted properly? Did did the machine flip a vote?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You see? I don't Oh, I don't know how my
ballot was counted.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I assume it was counted by one of those machines
that we saw that I played for you. I played
the sound bite. I think it was Channel seven or somebody.
Maybe it's KdV R. Somebody played, you know, did a
story about these machines that are are like the machines
that banks use and that the post Office uses the
sort mail and they, you know, they get a camera
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that compares your signature to your most current signature, not
your signature when you when you originally signed up, Because
my signature when I originally signed up is probably legible.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
My signature today, man, who cares? It is a squiggle?
Even my bank, doesn't you know my bank? Just you know?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Of course I haven't read the check him for years.
But nonetheless, what's wrong, I mean legitimate question? What's wrong
with getting off your fat ass going to your local
election wherever your polling place is. You know, if we
can have ballot drop boxes everywhere, we can certainly have
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polling places everywhere. And if you want to vote, get
off your button, go vote. And if you think you're
going to be gone, or your grandmother's in the nursing home, then.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Help her get a ballot. Why? And then.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I suppose there's always going to have to be away
other than a manual counting. But I wouldn't have a
problem with manual counting, except the population's gotten so large,
and the number of people that have registered and are
actually voting is so large that manual counting of ballots
might be a little impractical and it might actually take days,
if not weeks, to actually.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Do all those counts. Well, why not count them? Now?
My ballot's been counted.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
My ballot is already part of a tallly in Douglas County, Colorado.
The only thing I have a distrust of is the
machine that does the counting.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Is that the same you have.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I know you haven't taken the you haven't taken the
law school admissions test lately, and you haven't taken the
SSAY test SAT test lately. But you know you fill
out those little forms, you know, you feel in the
little circles, use a pan of a pencil and fill
them in and it goes through a machine. Well what
about when you show up and I know we had
hanging chads in Florida, but that was a minute problem.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Why not whole.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Punch or why not have a scanning machine that actually
reads and we have some sort of verification process that
it reads the ballots accurately, like you know, randomly pull
out has some poll workers randomly pull out some ballots
and check to see if those If those ballots were
properly counted, they're not tied to any individual nobody. I
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didn't sign my name to my ballot. If you want
to stop the cheating, and you want to stop this
in sessant I'm so sick of it. This incessant allegations
of well, people can't vote, they're not leading them, not
letting them in the poll boost Oh they you know that,
we got boxes of ballot showing up late.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Stop all of it.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
If other, if other civilized nations can do it, why
can't the country.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
That is the.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Longest lasting republic in human history? Why can't we do
it the right way? Why can't we simplify it and
have it so that come I don't know again, I
don't care whether it's ten or eleven o'clock at night,
but three or four hours after the polls close, we
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know what the can't we know what the tally is.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Why can't we do that?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I'll tell you why we can't do it, because too
many Americans are fat and lazy and don't want to
get off their dumb fat asses and actually go to
a polling place and vote. So if you're one of those,
then shut up and quit bitching.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Ranny.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
I might be dumb that and happy, but at least
I'm not a balld ale.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, that's the worst thing.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Sexual harassment.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Mike, didn't you say you did a mail in ballot?
Do you didn't go to a polling office either. Well,
I could have taken to the I could have taken
it to the UH to the polling place, I dropped
off in a drop box. So you can call me
a hypocrite, but it's right there. I still want everybody
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to go to a polling place, show an ID, have
your name checked marked off hand about, get handed a ballot,
walk in, close the curtain behind you, mark your ballot,
hand it back to a poll worker, and have it
instantaneously run through a machine.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
That's what I want, which used to be almost every elementary,
middle or high school.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Well we can't use those right now because they're all
full of illegal aliens and they're locked down.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
You need to go through a metal detector and screening
and the blood typing, and you're in testine order.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
There are plenty of places to hold an election if
we just wanted to do it. But we don't want
to do it. That's the problem. Jeff Bezos the Washington Post.
So I read that approximately two hundred thousand subscribers have
canceled their subscription to the Washington Post because Jeff Bezos
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instructed the editors or the publisher not to endorse a
candidate this year. Now I read that I don't know
what the current subscription rate is for the Washington Post,
but somebody said it was close to ten percent. Now
I would guess that many of those. In fact, I
have a friend of mine who used to work for
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a senator in Louisiana who now heads the Emmys Latti
dal and he canceled his subscription to The Washington Post
as a gesture of protest. But of course, because he's
he's a DC guy. He said, but I'm going to
resubscribe later. I just wanted to make a point. Well,
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now Jeff Bezos does something else. He's made a decision
to hire more conservative writers at the Post. That could
be a pivotal moment for a media landscape that is
dominated by liberal voices. For years, decades, all the major newspapers,
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even a lot of the local newspapers have just simply
functioned as echo chambers for all this progressive Marxist idealogy
that's floating around.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And there's been little of any room.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
You know, the one exit for conservative thought, I would say,
the one exception that's got as close as we could
to the old Rocky Mountain News is the Denver Gazette
who's trying to present a somewhat objective point of view
on the news pages and a decidedly conservative view on
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the editorial pages. But I don't think that Bezol's move
is just strategic or a business decision. I think it
signals a lot, a much broader recognition that journalism and
air quotes should serve everybody. And I'm talking about journal
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I'm talking about reporting, not editorializing, that journalism should serve everybody,
not just those on the left. And Bezols's decision could
be emphasized could be the beginning of a much needed
correction or realignment in American journalism, much like I think
we're going a realignment in politics. There may be a
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little just a little bit of light. Maybe it's just
a machstick, but a little bit of light in American
journalism that might actually introduce a real, true ideological diversity
into the newsroom because newsrooms have been notorious for their
one sided ness. How how one sided is it?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Now? This is old.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
I'll give you a little more current data, but let's
go back to twenty thirteen. In twenty thirteen, the University
of Indiana discovered that only seven point one percent of
journalists identified as republicans. Now, I wanted to go back
to twenty thirteen to give you that number, seven point
one percent identified as republicans. Now, why is that number important?
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If you go back to nineteen seventy one, a quarter
of journalists twenty five point seven percent identified as republicans. Now,
let's go forward from twenty thirteen to twenty twenty. A
survey by the Center for Public Integrity found that more
than ninety percent of journalists who made political donations contributed
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to democrats. Now, that is an overwhelming leftward tilt that's
resulted in a media landscape that you can't help but
recognize that it's biased. And a biased media contributes to
the erosion of trust in all mainstream news outlets. So
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if Bezos is going to bring in more conservative voices,
he's at least attempting. I'm not saying he's going to succeed,
don't misread me. But he's at least attempting to address
the imbalance. And he signaled that at least with respect
to his newspaper, he has or he wants more ideological diversity.
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Footnote to all of this, I don't know that I
really care about ideological diversity as I would. How about
just reporting, How about just giving me the facts, tell
me what the story is. I know that sometimes that's
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difficult because you you know, if you're reporting on a
car wreck, it's kind of hard to insert all that.
I suppose you're good if you wanted to. It's kind
of hard to insert your political ideology into a story
about a bank robbery.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Well you could have bank robbery because you could talk
about crime.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
But a car wreck, well, I'm talking myself out of
a car wreck because I could also insert that. You know,
the problem in that intersection is we need we need
more bike lanes, we need a better pedestrian cars, crosswalks,
we need fewer people in cars. So maybe I'm talking
myself out of it. But I would like to think
that there are some stories that you can just tell
me the story. This is what happened. I don't need
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to know the who, where, when, and why. I just
need to know what happened. So bezos and at the
Washington Post comes along the decision at the same time
to not endorse a candidate in this election cycle. They've
endorsed the candidate in every election for the past thirty
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six years, and the editorial board this year was getting
ready to publish an editorial supporting Kamala Harris, but Besils
stepped in ownership has its privileges and said, no, I'm
vetoing this endorsement. We're not going to do it. So
that move not only pissed off reporters and editors and
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others at The Washington Post, but I would say it
inflamed the entire liberalists, entire liberal establishment inside the Beltway.
Why because they're accustomed to media outlets that support their
favorite candidates, they support their favorite party. And now critics
have gone so far as to accuse Bezos of trying
to somehow curry favor with Donald Trump. They're now speculating
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his decision to not endorse and at the same time
try to get a more balanced newsroom is trying to
appease conservative interests. I don't know what his real motivation is.
Maybe he really does care about journalism. Maybe he sees
in a business model where journalism actually conducts journalism, that
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you can sell more newspapers, whether that be physically or online.
But how apoplectic is the left, Well, one of the
most one of the dumbest people on television, Joe Scarborough.
He claims that Besil's non endorsement is a way of
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cow telling to Trump in anticipation of Trump winning this year,
and Scarborough and others at MSNBC obviously fear that this
shift signals, somehow the beginning of a of a right
word tilt in mainstream media. Now, if you just imagine
a protractor one eighty degrees, where do you think the
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tilt is toward? I already told you what it is.
It's ninety so it's way over here to the left.
And Scarborough is worried about, oh, maybe moving a few degrees.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Toward the center.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Sold instead in ninety percent being a liberal Democrat. Journalists, Oh,
we'll just drop that down to eighty two percent. Eighty percent,
the ten percent improvement. Well, BFD to that. The reaction
from the most staff is hilarious. It's mixed, but nonetheless hilarious.
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Robert Kagan, the publisher, resigned in protest. He accused Basils
of making a secret deal of Trump.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Ooh, the secret deal.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Then others voice their concerns that the decision reflects an
abandonment of the papers progressive principles.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Bingo. There you have it.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Those who are protesting are saying, wait a minute, we're
a progressive newspaper. We're a left leaning newspaper, and we
freely admit that, and by not endorsing it, you're taking
away our bona fides. Oh really. For decades, I mean
decades now, major newspapers have hired overwhelmingly from left leaning
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institutions in social circles.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
And was that resulted in?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
That's resulted in newsrooms where conservative perspectives are not just underrepresented,
but quite frankly ignored, absolutely ignored. That's probably one of
the most significant issues in today's modern media, the lack
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of any sort of ideological diversity in newsrooms. Who's always
lecturing us about diversity the left? Where's probably the most
striking example of a lack of diversity the media. Peer
Research did a study in twenty twenty found that eighty
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six percent of Republicans believe that news organizations favor one
political party. I'll give you which one that is the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Duh.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Now, I don't think that perception is meritless and most fail.
Oh okay, I'll take a break on time here, but
I want you to think about it. Is it a
lack of diversity or is it a lack of journalists?
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Morning, Michael Dragon. This is your favorite Jew goober. I
just walked out of a FedEx office. My cousin had
a stroke and so I have to mail a package. Man,
and I went to the athetic office to mail a package.
They asked me for my ID.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
They asked me for my ID. What the heck?
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Well, I hate to break it to you, but they
ask you for your ID because we need to know
where all the Jews are. That's that's why they asked
for your ID. This gentile walks into FedEx and they're like, oh, hello,
mister Brown, how are you today?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
What you doing? Can we get you anything? How can
we help you?
Speaker 2 (29:43):
They call you mister von Braun.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
But the Jew, come on, that's there's a joke right there,
right j walked into a FedEx office.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Oh my gosh, Marty, great to have you on. I'm
I think it's uh well, just to put aside one fact,
eroding trust is part of a dissent into fascism. That's
sort of part of the playbook. I'm just saying that.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I'm just saying that. This is Mika Presentski onim S NBC.
You know, Marty, you know, eroding trust is just one
of the descents into fascism.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
And you pointed out that this move.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
By the Washington Post Bezos in.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
The Washington Post is definitely not a way to inspire trust.
The editorial was written, they had made a decision. This
is unbelievably terrible timing. If you're going to give Jeff
Bezos the benefit of the doubt, which I personally am not,
wouldn't this be.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
The I wonder if she uses Amazon.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Wait, if you give Jeff Bezos the benefit of the doubt,
which I am not, right, how is that journalism?
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Well, in defense, this is not a news program, okay,
this is an opinion program on a news network on
at which is why I hate this whole idea of
this conflation of opinion and news all in one channel.
You know, tell me this is going to be the news.
You're going to do the news you know at ten,
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two and four, and everything else is going to be
cartoons and my cartoons, I mean opinions.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
You want to know what that editorial said? And secondly,
can you talk about how Bezos' statement conflicts with that
of the Washington Posts because that would then be another
thing that eroads Trusts leads me to believe that Trump
is getting exactly what he wants because part of his
playbook is to put out a firehoe of falsehoods and
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to erode trust in our core values and in the media.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Do you think that Trump is spending any time? I'm
sure you know he probably tweaked your posts or whatever
about the Washington Post, But do you think he really
gives a rats ask about Jeff Bezos and whatever. The
Washington Post is going to endorse him, not endorse Do
you think he started crying that night but Washington Post
is not going to endorse me. Oh, I can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Well, in the last few days, they put out a
couple of statements trying to leave the impression that Jeff
Bezos was not involved in this decision. So they put
out a statement saying that he was not sent he
did not read and did not not opine on a
draft the editorial.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
By the way, I'm going to give this guy credit.
This is Marty Baron. Marty Barron is the former Washington
Post executive director.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
That was so narrowly written and so carefully written, but
it trying to suggest that he wasn't involved, but clearly
he was involved. They also put out a statement saying
this was a Washington Post to say, which is also
another carefully written statement because, by the way, he is
one hundred percent owner of the Watchman Post.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
So ownership has its privileges. If he doesn't want to endorse,
he doesn't want to endorse. If he wants to participate
in the newspaper, he can do it.
So Kamala is going to win it. It's a certainty.
She's going to win. What's gonna happen after that?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
How are we going to fix the voting system?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
What do we do? Well? Dragon has a theory, you
do you share your theory.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Dragon, It's not just a theory. It's out there. It's
been out there for a while. The Washington Redskins rule.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Which I've never heard of. Now, by the way, quit
saying the word redskins, because that is so you know,
as a part Cherokee Indian, every time you say that
you've bald had a day hole, I think to myself,
I'm triggered.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I don't you know what my pronouns are. I'm not
ensuring somebody. I'm not sure I can carry on.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
It's fine because Bruce Jenner won the medals, not Caitlyn.
It's fine. You can say Bruce Jenner won. It's fine.
He is now Caitlyn. They were the Redskins whin the
rule came into effect.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
All right, all right? Now? The rule is.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
A rule.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
That's what they call it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
That's what the that's what the who they are.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Immediately now, if the Washington Redskins now the commanders if
they win their final home game prior to the election.
The rule stated between nineteen forty and two thousand that
the incumbent party wins, which has happened every single election
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since nineteen forty to two thousand, four years ago.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Since then, since since two thousand, the rule.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Has now been flipped. So if the Washington Redskins win
their final home game prior to the election, the opposing
party wins the election.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
So have they there? Have they played their last home
game before the election.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
They played their home game against the Bears October twenty
seven and one, eighteen to fifteen.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Ooh close, but they wont.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So that would say, if the new flipped Redskins rule
holds to effect, Trump wins the election, then then why.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Are we even talking about it. It's over, it's done.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Why even hold the election?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Right?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
And interestingly, if the rules in effect from nineteen forty eight,
you said nineteen forty, nineteen forty to two thousand, So
that's sixty years.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
The most accurate predictor of who was going to win
the president.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
So can we assume then that we have another sixty
years of the.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
New rule, let's hope.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
And we've gone twenty four years into the new rule.
Uh huh, okay, so we have thirty six more years
of the new rule.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, you won't be und after that.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's fine.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I will be around the next six days. I don't think,
not the way the day's been going. True. I want
to get to the media for a minute, but before
I do, I want to go to text messages because
this really is a bugaboo of mine, and unfortunately I
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don't have the answers. I can just tell you what
my concern is text messages. Goody number eighty eight seventy seven. Michael,
Why are you talking about counting ballots? Those Democrat heavy
blue counties in Georgia. Those guys know how to count ballots.
They're able to find boxes and suitcases full of ballots,
and they keep counting them for days and days and days,
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even after the election is over. They're the greatest ballot
counters in America. Well, maybe Chicago's really good at counting
ballots as well. Republicans suck at counting ballots. They only
count the ballots that are legally cast by voters. They
just don't know how to count the ballots to overcome
a deficit. Let's see, then there is there were some
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others down here about ballots. I think you're I think
you're implying this is about ballots. Guber number sixty six
ninety eight, Mike. It's an oxymoron, but complication makes it
easier to do nefarious things. Yeah, and I do agree
with that. Zero two three eight, Michael. This is why
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people are disenfranchised and don't vote, because we're run by
a bunch of damn criminals. Let's see thirty seven to
seventy four, Michael. I can't believe the Democrats have done it,
but they run the worst candidate, the worst campaign. I
believe they're trying to just see how much they can
throw at the American people, to see how stupid the
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Democrats and their followers are. Beyond belief. They're spending all
that money for such a lousy Canada just to see
how far they can push the American people. I know
what the answer is, I don't know how to get there.
Anytime you connect anything to the Internet, it is subject
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to getting hacked. Surprisingly shockingly, Dragon, let me ask you,
did you know in Colorado that you can vote online?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Oh? Excuse come again, No.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I didn't know that either. Apparently at I can't. I've
not researched it. But I have a friend who's currently
in Thailand. He's not coming back from Thailand for another
week or two. So we're texting each other the other
day and I just casually said, so, what do you
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you know? Because I knew what time it was in
Bangkok versus here, And I said, so what are you doing?
And for him it was this It was morning. I said,
so what are you doing this morning? And he goes,
I'm filling out my ballot. And I responded and said, well,
are you going to fed exit back because it's not
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going to get there on time if you put it
in a mail.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Oh no, I'm doing it online.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Now that starts an entire text chain about what do
you mean you're doing it online?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
He goes, well, I.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Went online and I requested an online ballot, and I'm
now filling the ballot online.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
In fact, I was.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Hoping that we would text because I got some questions.
I've got some questions about some of these questions. And
I'm like, well, wait a minute, I've got questions about
what you're doing. And he was on his laptop or
his iPad one and one or the other and he
was filling out his ballot. So I go to the
I just quickly go to a quick search, and yes,
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you can request an online ballot.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Now, how secure is that? I don't like to send email?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
In fact, I still have an email service that's based
in Switzerland because I don't trust people intercepting my emails. Now,
do I have anything to hide on my emails? I might,
but I probably don't. But nonetheless I don't want people
reading my emails. I don't want. It's why I don't.
For example, people in this building get mad at me
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because I refuse to put the iHeartMedia email account on
my phone. I don't have my iPad. The only place
I have it is on my desktop in this laptop,
both of which are protected by all sorts of software
programs to encrypt and decrypt and keep people up out
of my hair. Anytime you connect anything to the Internet,
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it's subject to getting hacked. Now, we started out the
program this morning with these passwords, and and and lo
and behold, Kyle Clark, of all people, did some actual
journalism with with Jenna Griswold. I was surprisingly shocked by it.
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And it turns out that there are two sets of passwords,
I assume ones for the bio system and one is
for the software system. The machines are I guess some
machines are in the counties.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Don't don't.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Don't you have to have some machines in the counties already,
because in Douglas County, my ballot's been counted, so my
my ballot's been run through a machine. So that machine's
got to be connected to the to the Internet. And
someone has I was gonna say hacked the pass words,
but acts not the right word. They had posted the spreadsheet,
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and in luck, I assume an Excel spreadsheet on the
publicly available Secretary of State's website. Now, if they're that
stupid to do that, or maybe not stupid, if they're
that sloppy to do that, or they're that nefarious, I pick.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Whatever word you want to use. I don't care.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
What we've done is we have created again. Whether it's dumb,
fat and happy or fat, dumb and happy, I don't
give a rat's ass. But we're dumb, fat and happy, fat,
dumb and happy. So that I have a friend that knew,
and he's known he was going to Thailand forever, well,
forever he's known for at least a year. He was
going to be in Thailand during the election, so I'm
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curious as to why he didn't request an absent deballot.
And I asked him, well, why didn't you? Why don't
need to request absent ballot? And his response was, why
should I when I can do it online. Now he's not, obviously,
as in tune to oh, I don't know the NSA
like I am. He's not the former Intersecretary of Homeland Security.
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He hasn't carried all these clearances and understands exactly what
you know. Nefarious people, including government people, are capable of doing.
So I know that I am don Quixote here, and
I know that I'm tilting in the windmill, tilting in
a lot of windmills. I'm tilting at fifty different state
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windmills that all do a mail in ballots, you know,
or electronic voting. Apparently, how convenient is that just setting
your fat ass at home or set in your fat
ass in Bangkok and cast your ballot there. I just
think it's wrong. Now do I think it's wrong because
I'm a crabby old fart? You can claim that if
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you want to, But I don't think that's the reason
I'm crabby about it. I'm crabby about it because go
back to the text messages. Why are we talking about
county ballots. Those Democrats have blue counties in Georgia. They
know how to count ballots. They're able to find boxes
and suitcases full of ballots. Well, what if they weren't
able to do that. As long as we have all
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of these entry points to cheat, whether there's cheating or not,
they're going to be allegations of cheating. And as long
as there are allegations of cheating, then you're going to
have questionable results. And as long as we have questionable results,
we're going to have people that have no confidence in
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our elections, have no confidence in the outcome of the elections,
and are always going to be spun up, mad, pissed
off and think that the other side's cheating.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Let me move beyond that. Can't we all just get along?
Can we just be all Rodney King? Can we all
just get along? Now?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Can't we all just stop the stupidity? Well, guess what
we can. But and I would venture to say in
this audience, there are people who are who are.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Well, Michael, I love mail in ballots.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
You know, it just kind of it just shows up
my mailbox and I just fill it out and I
send it back. It gets there on time. I'm I
got my email address, so I get a ballot tracks
and notification that my ballot's been mailed, my ballots been received,
and my ballots being counted.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
So what are you bitching about? Well, I'm bitching.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
About all of the other things. You in particular may
not have a problem, but it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Else that we have a problem. I don't have a
problem with my ballot. Now.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
The problem I do have my ballot is was it
counted properly? Did did the machine flip a vote?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You see? I don't Oh, I don't know how my
ballot was counted.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I assume it was counted by one of those machines
that we saw that I played for you. I played
the sound bite. I think it was Channel seven or somebody.
Maybe it's KdV R. Somebody played, you know, did a
story about these machines that are are like the machines
that banks use and that the post Office uses the
sort mail and they, you know, they get a camera
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that compares your signature to your most current signature, not
your signature when you when you originally signed up, Because
my signature when I originally signed up is probably legible.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
My signature today, man, who cares? It is a squiggle?
Even my bank, doesn't you know my bank? Just you know?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Of course I haven't read the check him for years.
But nonetheless, what's wrong, I mean legitimate question? What's wrong
with getting off your fat ass going to your local
election wherever your polling place is. You know, if we
can have ballot drop boxes everywhere, we can certainly have
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polling places everywhere. And if you want to vote, get
off your button, go vote. And if you think you're
going to be gone, or your grandmother's in the nursing home, then.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Help her get a ballot. Why? And then.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I suppose there's always going to have to be away
other than a manual counting. But I wouldn't have a
problem with manual counting, except the population's gotten so large,
and the number of people that have registered and are
actually voting is so large that manual counting of ballots
might be a little impractical and it might actually take days,
if not weeks, to actually.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Do all those counts. Well, why not count them? Now?
My ballot's been counted.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
My ballot is already part of a tallly in Douglas County, Colorado.
The only thing I have a distrust of is the
machine that does the counting.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Is that the same you have.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I know you haven't taken the you haven't taken the
law school admissions test lately, and you haven't taken the
SSAY test SAT test lately. But you know you fill
out those little forms, you know, you feel in the
little circles, use a pan of a pencil and fill
them in and it goes through a machine. Well what
about when you show up and I know we had
hanging chads in Florida, but that was a minute problem.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Why not whole.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Punch or why not have a scanning machine that actually
reads and we have some sort of verification process that
it reads the ballots accurately, like you know, randomly pull
out has some poll workers randomly pull out some ballots
and check to see if those If those ballots were
properly counted, they're not tied to any individual nobody. I
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didn't sign my name to my ballot. If you want
to stop the cheating, and you want to stop this
in sessant I'm so sick of it. This incessant allegations
of well, people can't vote, they're not leading them, not
letting them in the poll boost Oh they you know that,
we got boxes of ballot showing up late.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Stop all of it.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
If other, if other civilized nations can do it, why
can't the country.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
That is the.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Longest lasting republic in human history? Why can't we do
it the right way? Why can't we simplify it and
have it so that come I don't know again, I
don't care whether it's ten or eleven o'clock at night,
but three or four hours after the polls close, we
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know what the can't we know what the tally is.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Why can't we do that?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I'll tell you why we can't do it, because too
many Americans are fat and lazy and don't want to
get off their dumb fat asses and actually go to
a polling place and vote. So if you're one of those,
then shut up and quit bitching.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Ranny.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
I might be dumb that and happy, but at least
I'm not a balld ale.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, that's the worst thing.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Sexual harassment.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Mike, didn't you say you did a mail in ballot?
Do you didn't go to a polling office either. Well,
I could have taken to the I could have taken
it to the UH to the polling place, I dropped
off in a drop box. So you can call me
a hypocrite, but it's right there. I still want everybody
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to go to a polling place, show an ID, have
your name checked marked off hand about, get handed a ballot,
walk in, close the curtain behind you, mark your ballot,
hand it back to a poll worker, and have it
instantaneously run through a machine.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
That's what I want, which used to be almost every elementary,
middle or high school.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Well we can't use those right now because they're all
full of illegal aliens and they're locked down.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
You need to go through a metal detector and screening
and the blood typing, and you're in testine order.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
There are plenty of places to hold an election if
we just wanted to do it. But we don't want
to do it. That's the problem. Jeff Bezos the Washington Post.
So I read that approximately two hundred thousand subscribers have
canceled their subscription to the Washington Post because Jeff Bezos
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instructed the editors or the publisher not to endorse a
candidate this year. Now I read that I don't know
what the current subscription rate is for the Washington Post,
but somebody said it was close to ten percent. Now
I would guess that many of those. In fact, I
have a friend of mine who used to work for
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a senator in Louisiana who now heads the Emmys Latti
dal and he canceled his subscription to The Washington Post
as a gesture of protest. But of course, because he's
he's a DC guy. He said, but I'm going to
resubscribe later. I just wanted to make a point. Well,
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now Jeff Bezos does something else. He's made a decision
to hire more conservative writers at the Post. That could
be a pivotal moment for a media landscape that is
dominated by liberal voices. For years, decades, all the major newspapers,
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even a lot of the local newspapers have just simply
functioned as echo chambers for all this progressive Marxist idealogy
that's floating around.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And there's been little of any room.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
You know, the one exit for conservative thought, I would say,
the one exception that's got as close as we could
to the old Rocky Mountain News is the Denver Gazette
who's trying to present a somewhat objective point of view
on the news pages and a decidedly conservative view on
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the editorial pages. But I don't think that Bezol's move
is just strategic or a business decision. I think it
signals a lot, a much broader recognition that journalism and
air quotes should serve everybody. And I'm talking about journal
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I'm talking about reporting, not editorializing, that journalism should serve everybody,
not just those on the left. And Bezols's decision could
be emphasized could be the beginning of a much needed
correction or realignment in American journalism, much like I think
we're going a realignment in politics. There may be a
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little just a little bit of light. Maybe it's just
a machstick, but a little bit of light in American
journalism that might actually introduce a real, true ideological diversity
into the newsroom because newsrooms have been notorious for their
one sided ness. How how one sided is it?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Now? This is old.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
I'll give you a little more current data, but let's
go back to twenty thirteen. In twenty thirteen, the University
of Indiana discovered that only seven point one percent of
journalists identified as republicans. Now, I wanted to go back
to twenty thirteen to give you that number, seven point
one percent identified as republicans. Now, why is that number important?
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If you go back to nineteen seventy one, a quarter
of journalists twenty five point seven percent identified as republicans. Now,
let's go forward from twenty thirteen to twenty twenty. A
survey by the Center for Public Integrity found that more
than ninety percent of journalists who made political donations contributed
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to democrats. Now, that is an overwhelming leftward tilt that's
resulted in a media landscape that you can't help but
recognize that it's biased. And a biased media contributes to
the erosion of trust in all mainstream news outlets. So
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if Bezos is going to bring in more conservative voices,
he's at least attempting. I'm not saying he's going to succeed,
don't misread me. But he's at least attempting to address
the imbalance. And he signaled that at least with respect
to his newspaper, he has or he wants more ideological diversity.
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Footnote to all of this, I don't know that I
really care about ideological diversity as I would. How about
just reporting, How about just giving me the facts, tell
me what the story is. I know that sometimes that's
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difficult because you you know, if you're reporting on a
car wreck, it's kind of hard to insert all that.
I suppose you're good if you wanted to. It's kind
of hard to insert your political ideology into a story
about a bank robbery.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Well you could have bank robbery because you could talk
about crime.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
But a car wreck, well, I'm talking myself out of
a car wreck because I could also insert that. You know,
the problem in that intersection is we need we need
more bike lanes, we need a better pedestrian cars, crosswalks,
we need fewer people in cars. So maybe I'm talking
myself out of it. But I would like to think
that there are some stories that you can just tell
me the story. This is what happened. I don't need
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to know the who, where, when, and why. I just
need to know what happened. So bezos and at the
Washington Post comes along the decision at the same time
to not endorse a candidate in this election cycle. They've
endorsed the candidate in every election for the past thirty
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six years, and the editorial board this year was getting
ready to publish an editorial supporting Kamala Harris, but Besils
stepped in ownership has its privileges and said, no, I'm
vetoing this endorsement. We're not going to do it. So
that move not only pissed off reporters and editors and
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others at The Washington Post, but I would say it
inflamed the entire liberalists, entire liberal establishment inside the Beltway.
Why because they're accustomed to media outlets that support their
favorite candidates, they support their favorite party. And now critics
have gone so far as to accuse Bezos of trying
to somehow curry favor with Donald Trump. They're now speculating
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his decision to not endorse and at the same time
try to get a more balanced newsroom is trying to
appease conservative interests. I don't know what his real motivation is.
Maybe he really does care about journalism. Maybe he sees
in a business model where journalism actually conducts journalism, that
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you can sell more newspapers, whether that be physically or online.
But how apoplectic is the left, Well, one of the
most one of the dumbest people on television, Joe Scarborough.
He claims that Besil's non endorsement is a way of
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cow telling to Trump in anticipation of Trump winning this year,
and Scarborough and others at MSNBC obviously fear that this
shift signals, somehow the beginning of a of a right
word tilt in mainstream media. Now, if you just imagine
a protractor one eighty degrees, where do you think the
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tilt is toward? I already told you what it is.
It's ninety so it's way over here to the left.
And Scarborough is worried about, oh, maybe moving a few degrees.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Toward the center.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Sold instead in ninety percent being a liberal Democrat. Journalists, Oh,
we'll just drop that down to eighty two percent. Eighty percent,
the ten percent improvement. Well, BFD to that. The reaction
from the most staff is hilarious. It's mixed, but nonetheless hilarious.
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Robert Kagan, the publisher, resigned in protest. He accused Basils
of making a secret deal of Trump.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Ooh, the secret deal.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Then others voice their concerns that the decision reflects an
abandonment of the papers progressive principles.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Bingo. There you have it.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Those who are protesting are saying, wait a minute, we're
a progressive newspaper. We're a left leaning newspaper, and we
freely admit that, and by not endorsing it, you're taking
away our bona fides. Oh really. For decades, I mean
decades now, major newspapers have hired overwhelmingly from left leaning
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institutions in social circles.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
And was that resulted in?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
That's resulted in newsrooms where conservative perspectives are not just underrepresented,
but quite frankly ignored, absolutely ignored. That's probably one of
the most significant issues in today's modern media, the lack
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of any sort of ideological diversity in newsrooms. Who's always
lecturing us about diversity the left? Where's probably the most
striking example of a lack of diversity the media. Peer
Research did a study in twenty twenty found that eighty
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six percent of Republicans believe that news organizations favor one
political party. I'll give you which one that is the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Duh.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Now, I don't think that perception is meritless and most fail.
Oh okay, I'll take a break on time here, but
I want you to think about it. Is it a
lack of diversity or is it a lack of journalists?
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Morning, Michael Dragon. This is your favorite Jew goober. I
just walked out of a FedEx office. My cousin had
a stroke and so I have to mail a package. Man,
and I went to the athetic office to mail a package.
They asked me for my ID.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
They asked me for my ID. What the heck?
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Well, I hate to break it to you, but they
ask you for your ID because we need to know
where all the Jews are. That's that's why they asked
for your ID. This gentile walks into FedEx and they're like, oh, hello,
mister Brown, how are you today?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
What you doing? Can we get you anything? How can
we help you?
Speaker 2 (29:43):
They call you mister von Braun.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
But the Jew, come on, that's there's a joke right there,
right j walked into a FedEx office.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Oh my gosh, Marty, great to have you on. I'm
I think it's uh well, just to put aside one fact,
eroding trust is part of a dissent into fascism. That's
sort of part of the playbook. I'm just saying that.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I'm just saying that. This is Mika Presentski onim S NBC.
You know, Marty, you know, eroding trust is just one
of the descents into fascism.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
And you pointed out that this move.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
By the Washington Post Bezos in.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
The Washington Post is definitely not a way to inspire trust.
The editorial was written, they had made a decision. This
is unbelievably terrible timing. If you're going to give Jeff
Bezos the benefit of the doubt, which I personally am not,
wouldn't this be.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
The I wonder if she uses Amazon.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Wait, if you give Jeff Bezos the benefit of the doubt,
which I am not, right, how is that journalism?
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Well, in defense, this is not a news program, okay,
this is an opinion program on a news network on
at which is why I hate this whole idea of
this conflation of opinion and news all in one channel.
You know, tell me this is going to be the news.
You're going to do the news you know at ten,
(31:28):
two and four, and everything else is going to be
cartoons and my cartoons, I mean opinions.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
You want to know what that editorial said? And secondly,
can you talk about how Bezos' statement conflicts with that
of the Washington Posts because that would then be another
thing that eroads Trusts leads me to believe that Trump
is getting exactly what he wants because part of his
playbook is to put out a firehoe of falsehoods and
(31:59):
to erode trust in our core values and in the media.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Do you think that Trump is spending any time? I'm
sure you know he probably tweaked your posts or whatever
about the Washington Post, But do you think he really
gives a rats ask about Jeff Bezos and whatever. The
Washington Post is going to endorse him, not endorse Do
you think he started crying that night but Washington Post
is not going to endorse me. Oh, I can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Well, in the last few days, they put out a
couple of statements trying to leave the impression that Jeff
Bezos was not involved in this decision. So they put
out a statement saying that he was not sent he
did not read and did not not opine on a
draft the editorial.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
By the way, I'm going to give this guy credit.
This is Marty Baron. Marty Barron is the former Washington
Post executive director.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
That was so narrowly written and so carefully written, but
it trying to suggest that he wasn't involved, but clearly
he was involved. They also put out a statement saying
this was a Washington Post to say, which is also
another carefully written statement because, by the way, he is
one hundred percent owner of the Watchman Post.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
So ownership has its privileges. If he doesn't want to endorse,
he doesn't want to endorse. If he wants to participate
in the newspaper, he can do it.
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