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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Happy Halloween Dragon. What the givers would love to know
is what is last game be dressed as for Halloween?
His favorite person in the world a dragon. He's gonna
be grampy Dragon. Look at him. He's gonna be cad.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh my god. So Dragon walks in this morning and
hands me. First of all, he's all flustered, and I
don't know why he's flustered, and I don't really care
why he's flustered, but he comes running. He comes running in.
Hang on, you got to give up a dike cope.
He comes running in and he's all flustered about something,
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and he throws the story down. And I look at it,
and I hadn't planned to do this, but I want
to do I know everybody and their dogs are going
to talk about this, but I just want to get
it out of the way because I've got a point
that I want to make about this that I don't know.
Maybe other people have had, maybe other people have it,
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but nonetheless, you know that this you know, Sunday morning
at two am, which nobody does, does anybody? Is there
anybody in their freaking mind?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
You know?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I suppose there's somebody out there that even more anal
retenning than I am, is even more OCD than I am.
That will get up at two am on Sunday and go, well,
go through a clock, buck, now, go to do it now?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Not a chance, Not a chance in hell. My stepfather
used to do it at like three pm the day before,
and we'd be looking at the clocks. Wait, it's not
really Wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
We still kind of do that because I just start
kind of doing it late in the like late afternoon,
early evening as I happen to walk by a clock.
But now I would say, every clock except the range
and the microwave, everything else changes automatically.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Same. Yeah, so a car doesn't change.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
But I'm sitting down on my phone ass yesterday. Well
it's actually you know, I went to the doctor this
week and my ass is not so fat anymore. So
there's there's that, And man, I gotta.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Say, huh did you say saggy? Yeah, well I'm an
old man.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
What you expect?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
That's why I haven't been invited on invited onto dudes
on dudes, because they're look they're looking like, oh that's Sagi,
that sagu formerly fat ass that we don't want him.
And by the way, who's talking about saggy fat asses?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Do you you? I've got an excuse because I've got
all that extra skin.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Oh, by the way, I need to find someone sent
me an email and I forgot to I forgot to provide.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Chasing a squirrel that is chasing another squirrel.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah. Oh, listen, I'm all over the place because there's
so much to cover today. I really don't know where
to start. There's so much to do. Someone sent me
an email. I'm pretty sure it's an email. I gotta
find it now. I'm a photograph that they found of you,
and maybe it was them and Rick And this is
like from I don't know, like nineteen sixty seven or something.
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I don't know when it was, but oh my god.
First of all, what a baby face you got, such
a total baby face. Then and oh my god, I
forgot just how big you really were.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Oh yeah, it's over three hundred and twenty pounds.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You've got to be so damn proud of your.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I would I would literally step on the scale and
it would just say error error are yeah, yeah, er yeah, er.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Of course. I can look at you now and think
er too. I look at you and kind of thing error.
But anyway, this story plays last night.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Yeah right now at four o'clock, here's a love look outside.
It is a cold and gloomy day all across the
front range. I'm a reminder this Sunday, the clocks will
do the old fallback thing. It's an hour for daylight
saving time coming to an end. It can be really
jarring for a lot of people for so many different reasons.
Or you can throw off your sleep patterns, affect your
internal clocks, and young children, pets and more of the
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change paired with the short.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
But he said pets, I thought, oh my god, Sunday morning,
the dogs are going to be up at four thirty
am thinking that you know, hey this nic it's time
to go to McDonald's and go to Chackfield. And I'm like, oh,
if three thirty am you idiots go back to bed.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
It doesn't really affect them. They just know it's breakfast
time and they don't care what day.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
The amazingly dogs don't know what a clock is. True,
they've got an internal clock, but they have no idea
what it is.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Order and colder days can even affect.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Your mental health.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Here to talk about all of that and what you
can do to protect yourself is doctor Dan showing Wall,
the psychologist over at Denver Health. Doctor Dan, thanks so
much for being here. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Thanks for having me appropriate topic considering how gloomy was
out this morning.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
It certainly is. It just kind of like gets you.
You don't get a lot of energy.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
I feel like when the weather is like this, and
then starting say you go to work on Monday, you
go ahead and drive home, it's going to be dark.
It affects a lot of people and you just kind
of feel down about it or you lose your energy.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
How do you address that?
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Well, first of all, we do know that the change
in time pattern affects a lot of people's mood. Less
daylight hours, less time in the sunshine, colder temperatures. We're
not exactly sure why it affects people's mood, but we
do have some explanations and some reasons why we think
it does. There's a biological basis. It affects your serotonin,
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lower levels of vitamin D, melatonin. Also, when you change
your sleep schedule, your circadian rhythms get thrown off and
that's what regulates the sleep cycle.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
And then I feel like if you don't get a
lot of sleep, and I think there's been a lot
more studies we've talked about here on Fox thirty one
recently about this that affects how you feel and sort
of your mental health as well.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Absolutely so one of the things that I recommend to
people when I'm trying to help them deal with symptoms
related to the time of changes, I use the acronyms
led sleep, light, box, exercise, and dogs.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Actually about the dogs, Okay, well.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
A lot of people walk through dogs in this summer
time when they get home from work because the sun
is out later. But when the time change happens, you're
going to have to flip your script a little bit
and potentially walk your dog earlier in the morning because
the sun's going to be more likely.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
To be out in the morning.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Okay, dog probably loves it. Dog doesn't care when it
goes out for a walk. It just wants to go.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
So you're saying, get up a little earlier if you
can take advantage of some of that daylight and that
I don't even know if you call it sunshine at
that point, but just some daylight that we have.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Earlier in the morning. Starting next week.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Absolutely, but I'm actually going to try to get people
to use the sunshine that they can have at different times.
So maybe get out during lunch and take a walk.
Exercise is always the best thing you can do for
your mood. So get out in the winter. We have
a ton of sunshine here in Colorado. Go for a
winter hike. Grab your friends. You know, the Japanese have
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a term called force fathing, so they understand how healing
the qualities of nature can be. So get out, do
a hike, be in the sunshine, even in the wintertime.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
So it sounds like, despite how cold it may be,
how gloomy it may be, just get outside and that
has a lot of natural benefits'll play out for your
mental health and just how you feel overall.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Absolutely that helps. But for people that doesn't respond. For
you can buy what's called a light box, which mimics
outdoor light inside can be really effective. One thing you
want to do, though, is make sure that it has
low ultraviolet light.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
And yeah, I haven't looked it up yet, I know,
I assume it's like a square box or something that
that puts out turn on the light true daylight. I
mean no, but this is like the spectrum is like
sunlight or sunshine like you think they You think these
cheap ass bulbs in this studio somehow reflect really natural light.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I guess. Sure, let's say there's some science behind it.
At whatever, light is light? But okay, sure, no.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Light is not light. Okay, no, no, no, I mean
I'm actually being serious now, light is not light. The
spectrum on these lights. I mean you can tell the
difference between the track lighting and.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
The floor supply on white.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Right, And even if you look at if you look
closely at the fluorescence, that's really got a blue tent
to it. That's unnatural. That's not what's out there. Okay, yeah,
So and so everything I've read is that those light
boxes really do if you wake up to a light box,
like if you can fix one where it comes on
as part of your alarm, it really does change your mood,
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which obviously I need. But here's what I thought. Here,
here's the point I want to make about all of this.
So over the next you know, a couple of days,
this is all you're going to hear about. Turn your
clock back. Turn your clocks back. And studies and surveys
show that upwards of eighty to ninety percent of people
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want to just decide one way or the other. We
really don't care. Daylight saving time, regular time, we don't care.
Just decide and just stick to it and quit doing
the flipping back and forth. When you think of it,
think about this is how bad our You know, democracy
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dies in the darkness. Democracy actually dies in daylight saving time.
That's that's where democracy dies. The Washington Post is right,
democracy dies in the darkness. This is a quintessentially great
example of how politicians do not care because there's some
constituency somewhere, there's some special interest somewhere I don't know
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who it is that is like, oh no, no, we can't
we can we can't change this, we can't change this. Well, well,
how is it that a place like Arizona. Think about Arizona.
Arizona was one of the first states around the country
that said, no, we're not going to do this anymore.
We're not going to flip back and forth. Arizona's the
only is also I think the last state and remember
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I forget the name of the governor, but Arizona took
forever to adopt Martin Luther King as a federal holiday.
They just totally ignored it. So, on the one hand,
Arizona refused to do something that everybody else was doing,
and then Arizona actually did and did something that everybody
else wasn't doing. And I just don't get the whole
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thing about this. Why why do we continue, continue and
continue year twice a year we have the same damn story.
Here's all I want, Here's all I want for Christmas.
Stop the madness, just stop it. Can we just decide
that we're going to do do it one way or
another way? How about that? Now? You want to stay
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tuned today because I'm going to do and I haven't
decided when I'm going to do it. So there you
have to listen all day long. Uh, I have a
maya culpa to do. Yes does anybody know what a
maya culpa is? I'm going to apologize. Yeah, I'm going
to apologize because I know this is this is like
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Haley's comment, It's it's very very rare. But I was
wrong about something yesterday. Yeah, I was wrong. I said
something to the effect. Well, I haven't seen any video
to that point. I saw some VID didn't show me that,
blah blah blah. Well since then, I have found it,
and did I find the video? But the Michigan Supreme
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Court said or not. The Michigan Supreme Court, a Michigan
judge said, yep, you can't do that. So we're going
to get to all of that eventually today too, And
of course we cannot forget we had what I think
is one of the most brilliant Now. I thought that.
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I think Trump. You know, I've told you that when
you get particularly now we're down in five days, you
get to the point where you're trying to win the
news cycle. Trump's been winning every freaking news cycle, and
the whole garbage thing that he did yesterday was political brilliance.
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I forget who he was talking to, but somebody asked
him about it yesterday, and you know they were asking, like,
where'd you get the idea?
Speaker 6 (12:15):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I know it was Laura Ingram was asking Jason Miller
about whose idea was. But Jason Miller express that Trump said,
and I may have actually heard Trump say this too,
I just don't remember that. As he approached the garbage truck,
he was thinking to himself, oh my god. And you
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know what he was thinking, I can't be like Joe
Biden and stumbul trying to get into this damn Trump
that I got to climb up into. Have you ever
climbed up into an eighteen wheeler. It's not exactly the
easiest thing to do if you've never done it before.
It's a process, is there's actually a process. And you
can see Trump reach for the handle, his hand kind
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of slips, and for that one instance, I thought, oh,
dear God, please don't let him fall, Do not let
him fall. But he didn't. So we're gonna talk about
that as part of the brilliance of the retail politics
that's going on. But let's forget all the I mean,
this is national too, but let's forget all of that
for a moment and let's go to.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Aurora.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
This is freaking unbelievable. The Denver Gazette has obtained emails
that unequivocally show that Aurora officials knew other Aurora officials
strongly suspected and for much longer than previously disclosed, that
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the trend to Ragua, the Venezuelan gang has been operating
in Aurora much longer than they originally suspected. And the
great thing about the emails, this whole tranch of emails
that have been disclosed is they've been authenticated by city officials,
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more than two dozen internal Aurora Police Department emails dating
all the way back to September eleven, twenty twenty three,
not September eleven, twenty twenty four, September eleven, twenty twenty three.
That is, that is almost a year before it was
publicly known that Trenda Ragua was actually operating in the
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Denver metro area, and it was before long before Aurora
officials shut down that apartment complex. The emails, when you
read through them, paint a really dire picture showing there
were internal conflicts and worries. Guess what about the political fallout? Huh?
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So you're worried about the political fallout about a gang
that is worse than MS thirteen or the mafia or
any of the carts, and you're worried about the political
fallout that they're going to be there, So you cover
up and you try to bury the story. And no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
No, no no no no no no no no no.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
No, no, it doesn't exist. It doesn't exist. Really, Mayor Kaufman
city manager, who or a police department chief what y'all
got to say, huh, what you got to say? Now?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
They cited intelligence intelligence reports from ICE and others saying
that more than one hundred TDA members were operating in
the Denver area and that the gang. Are you ready
for this? The emails disclose that TDA had intended from
the beginning to make Denver their headquarters in the United States.
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You know, why don't we have Why don't we have
Mayor Kaufman and Mayor Johnston and Governor Polis. Why don't
we have one of those groundbreaking ceremonies. Why don't we
have them come out? You know, look, Dragon and I
and we'll get all of you two. We'll buy them
all shovels, and we'll buy some gold spray paint. We'll
spray paint the shovels gold, and we'll go out into
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Aurora somewhere, or maybe on the Aurora Denver you know boundary.
We'll go to that, you know, where the city lines
about each other, and we'll find a vacant lot somewhere.
We'll just find some easement, just some public easement, and
we'll give them shovels and we'll have a big freaking
efen ceremony about opening the Trend of Aragua headquarters in
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Denver and Aurora, Colorado. What you got to say, governor, governor,
what you got to say? Hello? Hello, Governor? You awake yet?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Wake up?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Get your fat ass out of bed, Come on, Ryan Luby,
a City of Aurora spokes for spokesperson, confirm the emails quote.
We must remember the police departments and the justice system
as a whole must rely on admissible evidence, not hearsay,
rumors and fragments of information. Well, nobody's saying otherwise, nobody. Look,
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when you start an investigation, guess what you might start
that investigation based upon hearsay, inadmissible evidence, rumors, fragments of information.
Those are all the things that you start putting together
to start an investigation. Contrary to claims made on social
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media and by select news organizations, the city, including APD,
has remained consistent in responses on this matter. Ball crap.
If you had at the time that you said this,
you knew.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
That Good morning, Michael, good morning, Dragonon, Good morning to
you Alexa. Only eight days until the start as a
twenty twenty six election season.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
That's right, that's funny, that's funny. And sad. It's sad
but true. So sad but true. Back to the story
that the Denver Gaze published about the emails that disclosed
that Aurora officials knew about Trenda Arragua well all the
way back to September eleventh, twenty twenty three, they were
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keenly aware of the optics and because of optics, let
me just phrase it this way, Optics took precedence over
public safety. Optics took precedence over informing the public about
a crime problem from one of the worst gangs in
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the world wanting to make Denver its headquarters, or you know,
it's an election season and blah blah blah. We're not
making nearly enough of this story, an officer wrote in
a January eleventh email. We have been in communication reference
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fifteen sixty eight known with the police area representatives as
well as the city in regards to the abatement process
at NOME as of now from the city manager's office,
the political problem with abating the known property is unhousing
all the migrants and the perception of how it looks,
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especially in the winter time, of essentially kicking everyone out
due to the non compliance on the owners and let's
just stop and think about that. So you know that residents,
I know they're between a rack. I am not excusing
this whatsoever, but I understand from the cops point of
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view that they're between a raw in a hard place
because what they've got is they've got a gang that
they that they know at this point, has taken over
that building. And they understand that the non compliance on
the part of the owners is not because they've just
abandoned the property, but because they've been forced out of
the property by these gangs, and they're all concerned about
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the unhousing of the migrants. I you can call me
a cold hearted bastard, but I just really, I frankly
don't care. If you come to this country illegally for
whatever reason, you want a better life, you're escaping crime.
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I really don't care what the reason is. But if
you come flooding into this country, guess what. There is
no obligation on American taxpayers to house you. And guess what.
If you're coming from you know, depending on where you're
coming from Venezuela, you may not be accustomed to. Oh,
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I don't know, it's freezing outside this morning. Sucks to
be you, doesn't it, Well, I don't owe you shelter
as a taxpayer. Now, I may have some moral obligation
to try to help people, but I even question that
if you come here illegally, if I decide that, you know,
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I love Switzerland, Austria, and if I decide to which
which would be hard to do, I guess. But if
I decide to break into that country, if I decide
to enter Australia or Austria or Switzerland illegally and just
take up residence there, they don't owe me anything. I'm
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on my own now. Both of those countries, because of
their socialist nature, may indeed are trying to figure out
some way to help me, but more likely than not,
it's going to be some private organization, some nonprofit that's
going to do it, and they're not going to do
it a taxpayer money. Now, France, Germany, England, those countries
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that part of Western Europe, that's probably a different story.
So then, and indeed, when they started to shut down
the apartment complex for all these code violations that left
about three hundred people homeless in August. Now, of those
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three hundred people, almost all of them were illegal aliens,
and almost all of them were from Venezuela. The owners
have repeatedly said that TDA had extorted and exerted control
over the management at all three of those Aurora complexes.
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A spokesperson for the apartment complexes had said this, we
would like to be able to resume normal operations in
our buildings, but we cannot do so under the threat
of present and immediate danger against residents, staff and management.
In fact, according to the emails, the cops were aware
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of that last fall when Zev Baumgarten, the property manager
you've seen the video, was beaten on November fourteen at
Whispering Pines by a bunch of guys who've been drinking
and listening to loud music in a vacant apartment. That
manager advised that he was punched around twenty times in
the face, kicked numerous times on torso. According to and
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Or were a police report, but initially the city officials
denied that the gang had anything to do with Aspen
Grove closure and solely blamed the absent landlords themselves for
the deteriorating conditions of the complex. That's some kind of
cajones to know at the time you put this in
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perspective at the time that their point that that that
Kaufman and the police department and the city manager all
pointing their fingers at management. They know that they got
a TDA problem, and they know that TDA is the
one that's operating has taken over the apartment buildings instead
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the that's what was that guy's name, Louby? I wanna
get his name, Ryan Louby, the Aurora spokesman instead of quote.
Instead of expending the resources to address the documented issues,
CBZ and its stakeholders have hired a team of attorneys
and as we learn today, a Florida based public relations
firm to engage in diversionary tactics fight the city and
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its city chartered duties to enforce city code and alternative
narratives with many of you talk about projection, that's exactly
what the city was doing. And then you got the
Perkins Law firm, hired by a lender with the investment
interesting department complexes, found that the gang had indeed entrenched
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itself at the complex and they were using a complex
for illegal activities that include a prostitution of minors. Oh,
no big deal, just kids, kids being forced into prostitution,
and you're trying to deflect. You know, we got a
real serious problem in this state, all the way from
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the governor down to and including a Republican mayor, Mike Kaufman.
I you know, let me just say this on a
personal level, I used to have a lot of respect
for Mike Kaufman. Got respect is totally gone. Totally gone.
A guy that I thought used to be a stand
up person that would stand up and just say, you
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know what, this may hurt me politically, but here's the truth.
And instead they knew at the time that they had
a TDA problem and they were ignoring it. Now you
may say, well, Michael, why you make a big deal
of this. What's your name? The city councilman or named
Skatchy right now, she's been talking about this forever. Well,
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the difference is purely from legal point of view. We've
now got the receipts, we've got the evidence, we've got
the goods. And thanks to the Denver Gazette for doing so.
You know, a footnote here a great example of what
real journalism is like. Congratulations to the Denver Gazette for
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taking the time, the energy, and the resources to do
the fully requests in this case Open Records Act to
do the Open Records Act request to get and obtain
the emails, and to show us that city officials, cops, police, chief,
city manager, all of them have been lying to us
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about what's been going on with Trenda Ragua. The internal
emails probably shed a greater light on the scope of
tda's presence and their operation in the Denver metro area,
at the same time that Aurora, Denver and the Governor's
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office continue to downplay their presence in this state. In
a statement, Paulus said, the governor is quote committed to
supporting local law enforcement and their work to keep our
community safe. Bun't you just admit that we got a
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problem with TDA in this state now, Theer's office said this.
The state was first notified by Homeland Security in late
July that they were monitoring activity in Aurora. The state
then immediately reached out to the city of Aurora, including
the governor reaching out to the mayor to offer any
assistance needed. When Governor Police met with Mayor Kaufman in
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late July, we were informed that the city did not
have a strong criminal case yet and the state offered
dedicated investigative support in the form of troopers and CBIA
just to work cases, and the Department and the Emergency
Management Department to provide analysts to support investigations to identify
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interest known criminal gang elements. This is smoke screening. This
is okay, well, you know what, you might have a problem.
If you do have a problem, you know, we're just
telling you publicly, you can call us and we'll give
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you whatever you need, saying now, at least publicly they're saying, hey,
no problem, we don't need anything. Everything's under control. Everything's
fine here. This is just another example of how this
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is why I think Trump's wimming. This is why there's
a political realignment going on, whether it's daylight saving time
and the inability of Congress or for that matter, of
the Colorado polit Bureau, because you know, they could adopt,
you know, their own law that says if and when
you know other states do this, then we will become
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part of or if the national government doesn't, we will
approve it. Or Congress could just step in and say,
you know what, we're not gonna do this anymore. And
I could step in and take a break. But it's
daylight saving time, so it's only five forty five, so
I've got plenty of time to go here.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Good morning, Michael and Dragon.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Hey.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Yeah, the police of law no endeavors the central Hub
because it is they love the ability to use our
interstate system to go anywhere and go anywhere quickly. I
seventy I twenty five, I eighty goes across the whole
nation north to south. I twenty five practically does. They
can go anywhere and fast. They've known about it, they're
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doing it. I don't know what they're doing about it.
But politics, well, there you go.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, and you make a great point. I mean we've
known for decades, if not longer, that we were a hub.
We were a hub for you know, when marijuana was illegal,
you know when coke was the big thing. And again
it's because of you think about the mouse trap and
the and the ability just from the mouse trap to
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go almost any direction anywhere in the country. You go
just north of the mouse trap a little bit, get
onto seventy six and boy you're head of You're headed
to eighty and you can go east, or you can
go do and hit eight and you can go west,
you can go south, and hit forty and go east
or west. You can just you can stay on seventy
and go east or west, up and down any direction.
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So we've known that forever. The difference now is that
it's gone from you know, I'm not trying to minimize
drug trafficking, but now you think about you think about
a gang. You know, I used to talk about MS
thirteen as being the most because we had to deal
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with MS thirteen when I was the undersecretary, as being
one of the most violent brutal gangs on the face
of the earth. And now Trenda Ragua is exponentially worse
than MS thirteen. And DHS put points out in an
email that indeed, where's that part of this story where
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they talk about they want to make Denver their headquarters.
Now people often talk and you know the vernacular as
a as a local that when people talk about Denver,
they're talking about the Denver metro area, whether it's Thornton
or whether it's Aurora, or whether it's Lakewood or you know,
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whatever it is Centennial, it's Denver. They want to make
this the headquarters. And ICE told officials that they told
them that the lesson to learn from this is this
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realignment that I think that I see going on in
our politics, and this kind of almost color revolutionists beginning
to occur against entrenched politicians. It's not just at the
national level, it's at the local level.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Two.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
And it's incumbent upon us to make sure that everybody
knows within your sphere of influence that Aurora and Denver
and the governor's office have been lying to you about
just how bad this problem is, and the Denver Gazette,
congratulations for proving it.
Happy Halloween Dragon. What the givers would love to know
is what is last game be dressed as for Halloween?
His favorite person in the world a dragon. He's gonna
be grampy Dragon. Look at him. He's gonna be cad.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh my god. So Dragon walks in this morning and
hands me. First of all, he's all flustered, and I
don't know why he's flustered, and I don't really care
why he's flustered, but he comes running. He comes running in.
Hang on, you got to give up a dike cope.
He comes running in and he's all flustered about something,
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and he throws the story down. And I look at it,
and I hadn't planned to do this, but I want
to do I know everybody and their dogs are going
to talk about this, but I just want to get
it out of the way because I've got a point
that I want to make about this that I don't know.
Maybe other people have had, maybe other people have it,
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but nonetheless, you know that this you know, Sunday morning
at two am, which nobody does, does anybody? Is there
anybody in their freaking mind?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
You know?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I suppose there's somebody out there that even more anal
retenning than I am, is even more OCD than I am.
That will get up at two am on Sunday and go, well,
go through a clock, buck, now, go to do it now?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Not a chance, Not a chance in hell. My stepfather
used to do it at like three pm the day before,
and we'd be looking at the clocks. Wait, it's not
really Wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
We still kind of do that because I just start
kind of doing it late in the like late afternoon,
early evening as I happen to walk by a clock.
But now I would say, every clock except the range
and the microwave, everything else changes automatically.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Same. Yeah, so a car doesn't change.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
But I'm sitting down on my phone ass yesterday. Well
it's actually you know, I went to the doctor this
week and my ass is not so fat anymore. So
there's there's that, And man, I gotta.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Say, huh did you say saggy? Yeah, well I'm an
old man.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
What you expect?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
That's why I haven't been invited on invited onto dudes
on dudes, because they're look they're looking like, oh that's Sagi,
that sagu formerly fat ass that we don't want him.
And by the way, who's talking about saggy fat asses?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Do you you? I've got an excuse because I've got
all that extra skin.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Oh, by the way, I need to find someone sent
me an email and I forgot to I forgot to provide.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Chasing a squirrel that is chasing another squirrel.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah. Oh, listen, I'm all over the place because there's
so much to cover today. I really don't know where
to start. There's so much to do. Someone sent me
an email. I'm pretty sure it's an email. I gotta
find it now. I'm a photograph that they found of you,
and maybe it was them and Rick And this is
like from I don't know, like nineteen sixty seven or something.
(03:12):
I don't know when it was, but oh my god.
First of all, what a baby face you got, such
a total baby face. Then and oh my god, I
forgot just how big you really were.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Oh yeah, it's over three hundred and twenty pounds.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You've got to be so damn proud of your.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I would I would literally step on the scale and
it would just say error error are yeah, yeah, er yeah, er.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Of course. I can look at you now and think
er too. I look at you and kind of thing error.
But anyway, this story plays last night.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Yeah right now at four o'clock, here's a love look outside.
It is a cold and gloomy day all across the
front range. I'm a reminder this Sunday, the clocks will
do the old fallback thing. It's an hour for daylight
saving time coming to an end. It can be really
jarring for a lot of people for so many different reasons.
Or you can throw off your sleep patterns, affect your
internal clocks, and young children, pets and more of the
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change paired with the short.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
But he said pets, I thought, oh my god, Sunday morning,
the dogs are going to be up at four thirty
am thinking that you know, hey this nic it's time
to go to McDonald's and go to Chackfield. And I'm like, oh,
if three thirty am you idiots go back to bed.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
It doesn't really affect them. They just know it's breakfast
time and they don't care what day.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
The amazingly dogs don't know what a clock is. True,
they've got an internal clock, but they have no idea
what it is.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Order and colder days can even affect.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Your mental health.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Here to talk about all of that and what you
can do to protect yourself is doctor Dan showing Wall,
the psychologist over at Denver Health. Doctor Dan, thanks so
much for being here. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Thanks for having me appropriate topic considering how gloomy was
out this morning.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
It certainly is. It just kind of like gets you.
You don't get a lot of energy.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
I feel like when the weather is like this, and
then starting say you go to work on Monday, you
go ahead and drive home, it's going to be dark.
It affects a lot of people and you just kind
of feel down about it or you lose your energy.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
How do you address that?
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Well, first of all, we do know that the change
in time pattern affects a lot of people's mood. Less
daylight hours, less time in the sunshine, colder temperatures. We're
not exactly sure why it affects people's mood, but we
do have some explanations and some reasons why we think
it does. There's a biological basis. It affects your serotonin,
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lower levels of vitamin D, melatonin. Also, when you change
your sleep schedule, your circadian rhythms get thrown off and
that's what regulates the sleep cycle.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
And then I feel like if you don't get a
lot of sleep, and I think there's been a lot
more studies we've talked about here on Fox thirty one
recently about this that affects how you feel and sort
of your mental health as well.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Absolutely so one of the things that I recommend to
people when I'm trying to help them deal with symptoms
related to the time of changes, I use the acronyms
led sleep, light, box, exercise, and dogs.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Actually about the dogs, Okay, well.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
A lot of people walk through dogs in this summer
time when they get home from work because the sun
is out later. But when the time change happens, you're
going to have to flip your script a little bit
and potentially walk your dog earlier in the morning because
the sun's going to be more likely.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
To be out in the morning.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Okay, dog probably loves it. Dog doesn't care when it
goes out for a walk. It just wants to go.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
So you're saying, get up a little earlier if you
can take advantage of some of that daylight and that
I don't even know if you call it sunshine at
that point, but just some daylight that we have.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Earlier in the morning. Starting next week.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Absolutely, but I'm actually going to try to get people
to use the sunshine that they can have at different times.
So maybe get out during lunch and take a walk.
Exercise is always the best thing you can do for
your mood. So get out in the winter. We have
a ton of sunshine here in Colorado. Go for a
winter hike. Grab your friends. You know, the Japanese have
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a term called force fathing, so they understand how healing
the qualities of nature can be. So get out, do
a hike, be in the sunshine, even in the wintertime.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
So it sounds like, despite how cold it may be,
how gloomy it may be, just get outside and that
has a lot of natural benefits'll play out for your
mental health and just how you feel overall.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Absolutely that helps. But for people that doesn't respond. For
you can buy what's called a light box, which mimics
outdoor light inside can be really effective. One thing you
want to do, though, is make sure that it has
low ultraviolet light.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
And yeah, I haven't looked it up yet, I know,
I assume it's like a square box or something that
that puts out turn on the light true daylight. I
mean no, but this is like the spectrum is like
sunlight or sunshine like you think they You think these
cheap ass bulbs in this studio somehow reflect really natural light.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I guess. Sure, let's say there's some science behind it.
At whatever, light is light? But okay, sure, no.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Light is not light. Okay, no, no, no, I mean
I'm actually being serious now, light is not light. The
spectrum on these lights. I mean you can tell the
difference between the track lighting and.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
The floor supply on white.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Right, And even if you look at if you look
closely at the fluorescence, that's really got a blue tent
to it. That's unnatural. That's not what's out there. Okay, yeah,
So and so everything I've read is that those light
boxes really do if you wake up to a light box,
like if you can fix one where it comes on
as part of your alarm, it really does change your mood,
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which obviously I need. But here's what I thought. Here,
here's the point I want to make about all of this.
So over the next you know, a couple of days,
this is all you're going to hear about. Turn your
clock back. Turn your clocks back. And studies and surveys
show that upwards of eighty to ninety percent of people
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want to just decide one way or the other. We
really don't care. Daylight saving time, regular time, we don't care.
Just decide and just stick to it and quit doing
the flipping back and forth. When you think of it,
think about this is how bad our You know, democracy
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dies in the darkness. Democracy actually dies in daylight saving time.
That's that's where democracy dies. The Washington Post is right,
democracy dies in the darkness. This is a quintessentially great
example of how politicians do not care because there's some
constituency somewhere, there's some special interest somewhere I don't know
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who it is that is like, oh no, no, we can't
we can we can't change this, we can't change this. Well, well,
how is it that a place like Arizona. Think about Arizona.
Arizona was one of the first states around the country
that said, no, we're not going to do this anymore.
We're not going to flip back and forth. Arizona's the
only is also I think the last state and remember
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I forget the name of the governor, but Arizona took
forever to adopt Martin Luther King as a federal holiday.
They just totally ignored it. So, on the one hand,
Arizona refused to do something that everybody else was doing,
and then Arizona actually did and did something that everybody
else wasn't doing. And I just don't get the whole
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thing about this. Why why do we continue, continue and
continue year twice a year we have the same damn story.
Here's all I want, Here's all I want for Christmas.
Stop the madness, just stop it. Can we just decide
that we're going to do do it one way or
another way? How about that? Now? You want to stay
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tuned today because I'm going to do and I haven't
decided when I'm going to do it. So there you
have to listen all day long. Uh, I have a
maya culpa to do. Yes does anybody know what a
maya culpa is? I'm going to apologize. Yeah, I'm going
to apologize because I know this is this is like
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Haley's comment, It's it's very very rare. But I was
wrong about something yesterday. Yeah, I was wrong. I said
something to the effect. Well, I haven't seen any video
to that point. I saw some VID didn't show me that,
blah blah blah. Well since then, I have found it,
and did I find the video? But the Michigan Supreme
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Court said or not. The Michigan Supreme Court, a Michigan
judge said, yep, you can't do that. So we're going
to get to all of that eventually today too, And
of course we cannot forget we had what I think
is one of the most brilliant Now. I thought that.
(11:40):
I think Trump. You know, I've told you that when
you get particularly now we're down in five days, you
get to the point where you're trying to win the
news cycle. Trump's been winning every freaking news cycle, and
the whole garbage thing that he did yesterday was political brilliance.
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I forget who he was talking to, but somebody asked
him about it yesterday, and you know they were asking, like,
where'd you get the idea?
Speaker 6 (12:15):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I know it was Laura Ingram was asking Jason Miller
about whose idea was. But Jason Miller express that Trump said,
and I may have actually heard Trump say this too,
I just don't remember that. As he approached the garbage truck,
he was thinking to himself, oh my god. And you
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know what he was thinking, I can't be like Joe
Biden and stumbul trying to get into this damn Trump
that I got to climb up into. Have you ever
climbed up into an eighteen wheeler. It's not exactly the
easiest thing to do if you've never done it before.
It's a process, is there's actually a process. And you
can see Trump reach for the handle, his hand kind
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of slips, and for that one instance, I thought, oh,
dear God, please don't let him fall, Do not let
him fall. But he didn't. So we're gonna talk about
that as part of the brilliance of the retail politics
that's going on. But let's forget all the I mean,
this is national too, but let's forget all of that
for a moment and let's go to.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Aurora.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
This is freaking unbelievable. The Denver Gazette has obtained emails
that unequivocally show that Aurora officials knew other Aurora officials
strongly suspected and for much longer than previously disclosed, that
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the trend to Ragua, the Venezuelan gang has been operating
in Aurora much longer than they originally suspected. And the
great thing about the emails, this whole tranch of emails
that have been disclosed is they've been authenticated by city officials,
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more than two dozen internal Aurora Police Department emails dating
all the way back to September eleven, twenty twenty three,
not September eleven, twenty twenty four, September eleven, twenty twenty three.
That is, that is almost a year before it was
publicly known that Trenda Ragua was actually operating in the
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Denver metro area, and it was before long before Aurora
officials shut down that apartment complex. The emails, when you
read through them, paint a really dire picture showing there
were internal conflicts and worries. Guess what about the political fallout? Huh?
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So you're worried about the political fallout about a gang
that is worse than MS thirteen or the mafia or
any of the carts, and you're worried about the political
fallout that they're going to be there, So you cover
up and you try to bury the story. And no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
No, no no no no no no no no no.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
No, no, it doesn't exist. It doesn't exist. Really, Mayor Kaufman
city manager, who or a police department chief what y'all
got to say, huh, what you got to say? Now?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
They cited intelligence intelligence reports from ICE and others saying
that more than one hundred TDA members were operating in
the Denver area and that the gang. Are you ready
for this? The emails disclose that TDA had intended from
the beginning to make Denver their headquarters in the United States.
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You know, why don't we have Why don't we have
Mayor Kaufman and Mayor Johnston and Governor Polis. Why don't
we have one of those groundbreaking ceremonies. Why don't we
have them come out? You know, look, Dragon and I
and we'll get all of you two. We'll buy them
all shovels, and we'll buy some gold spray paint. We'll
spray paint the shovels gold, and we'll go out into
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Aurora somewhere, or maybe on the Aurora Denver you know boundary.
We'll go to that, you know, where the city lines
about each other, and we'll find a vacant lot somewhere.
We'll just find some easement, just some public easement, and
we'll give them shovels and we'll have a big freaking
efen ceremony about opening the Trend of Aragua headquarters in
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Denver and Aurora, Colorado. What you got to say, governor, governor,
what you got to say? Hello? Hello, Governor? You awake yet?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Wake up?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Get your fat ass out of bed, Come on, Ryan Luby,
a City of Aurora spokes for spokesperson, confirm the emails quote.
We must remember the police departments and the justice system
as a whole must rely on admissible evidence, not hearsay,
rumors and fragments of information. Well, nobody's saying otherwise, nobody. Look,
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when you start an investigation, guess what you might start
that investigation based upon hearsay, inadmissible evidence, rumors, fragments of information.
Those are all the things that you start putting together
to start an investigation. Contrary to claims made on social
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media and by select news organizations, the city, including APD,
has remained consistent in responses on this matter. Ball crap.
If you had at the time that you said this,
you knew.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
That Good morning, Michael, good morning, Dragonon, Good morning to
you Alexa. Only eight days until the start as a
twenty twenty six election season.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
That's right, that's funny, that's funny. And sad. It's sad
but true. So sad but true. Back to the story
that the Denver Gaze published about the emails that disclosed
that Aurora officials knew about Trenda Arragua well all the
way back to September eleventh, twenty twenty three, they were
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keenly aware of the optics and because of optics, let
me just phrase it this way, Optics took precedence over
public safety. Optics took precedence over informing the public about
a crime problem from one of the worst gangs in
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the world wanting to make Denver its headquarters, or you know,
it's an election season and blah blah blah. We're not
making nearly enough of this story, an officer wrote in
a January eleventh email. We have been in communication reference
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fifteen sixty eight known with the police area representatives as
well as the city in regards to the abatement process
at NOME as of now from the city manager's office,
the political problem with abating the known property is unhousing
all the migrants and the perception of how it looks,
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especially in the winter time, of essentially kicking everyone out
due to the non compliance on the owners and let's
just stop and think about that. So you know that residents,
I know they're between a rack. I am not excusing
this whatsoever, but I understand from the cops point of
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view that they're between a raw in a hard place
because what they've got is they've got a gang that
they that they know at this point, has taken over
that building. And they understand that the non compliance on
the part of the owners is not because they've just
abandoned the property, but because they've been forced out of
the property by these gangs, and they're all concerned about
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the unhousing of the migrants. I you can call me
a cold hearted bastard, but I just really, I frankly
don't care. If you come to this country illegally for
whatever reason, you want a better life, you're escaping crime.
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I really don't care what the reason is. But if
you come flooding into this country, guess what. There is
no obligation on American taxpayers to house you. And guess what.
If you're coming from you know, depending on where you're
coming from Venezuela, you may not be accustomed to. Oh,
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I don't know, it's freezing outside this morning. Sucks to
be you, doesn't it, Well, I don't owe you shelter
as a taxpayer. Now, I may have some moral obligation
to try to help people, but I even question that
if you come here illegally, if I decide that, you know,
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I love Switzerland, Austria, and if I decide to which
which would be hard to do, I guess. But if
I decide to break into that country, if I decide
to enter Australia or Austria or Switzerland illegally and just
take up residence there, they don't owe me anything. I'm
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on my own now. Both of those countries, because of
their socialist nature, may indeed are trying to figure out
some way to help me, but more likely than not,
it's going to be some private organization, some nonprofit that's
going to do it, and they're not going to do
it a taxpayer money. Now, France, Germany, England, those countries
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that part of Western Europe, that's probably a different story.
So then, and indeed, when they started to shut down
the apartment complex for all these code violations that left
about three hundred people homeless in August. Now, of those
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three hundred people, almost all of them were illegal aliens,
and almost all of them were from Venezuela. The owners
have repeatedly said that TDA had extorted and exerted control
over the management at all three of those Aurora complexes.
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A spokesperson for the apartment complexes had said this, we
would like to be able to resume normal operations in
our buildings, but we cannot do so under the threat
of present and immediate danger against residents, staff and management.
In fact, according to the emails, the cops were aware
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of that last fall when Zev Baumgarten, the property manager
you've seen the video, was beaten on November fourteen at
Whispering Pines by a bunch of guys who've been drinking
and listening to loud music in a vacant apartment. That
manager advised that he was punched around twenty times in
the face, kicked numerous times on torso. According to and
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Or were a police report, but initially the city officials
denied that the gang had anything to do with Aspen
Grove closure and solely blamed the absent landlords themselves for
the deteriorating conditions of the complex. That's some kind of
cajones to know at the time you put this in
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perspective at the time that their point that that that
Kaufman and the police department and the city manager all
pointing their fingers at management. They know that they got
a TDA problem, and they know that TDA is the
one that's operating has taken over the apartment buildings instead
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the that's what was that guy's name, Louby? I wanna
get his name, Ryan Louby, the Aurora spokesman instead of quote.
Instead of expending the resources to address the documented issues,
CBZ and its stakeholders have hired a team of attorneys
and as we learn today, a Florida based public relations
firm to engage in diversionary tactics fight the city and
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its city chartered duties to enforce city code and alternative
narratives with many of you talk about projection, that's exactly
what the city was doing. And then you got the
Perkins Law firm, hired by a lender with the investment
interesting department complexes, found that the gang had indeed entrenched
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itself at the complex and they were using a complex
for illegal activities that include a prostitution of minors. Oh,
no big deal, just kids, kids being forced into prostitution,
and you're trying to deflect. You know, we got a
real serious problem in this state, all the way from
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the governor down to and including a Republican mayor, Mike Kaufman.
I you know, let me just say this on a
personal level, I used to have a lot of respect
for Mike Kaufman. Got respect is totally gone. Totally gone.
A guy that I thought used to be a stand
up person that would stand up and just say, you
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know what, this may hurt me politically, but here's the truth.
And instead they knew at the time that they had
a TDA problem and they were ignoring it. Now you
may say, well, Michael, why you make a big deal
of this. What's your name? The city councilman or named
Skatchy right now, she's been talking about this forever. Well,
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the difference is purely from legal point of view. We've
now got the receipts, we've got the evidence, we've got
the goods. And thanks to the Denver Gazette for doing so.
You know, a footnote here a great example of what
real journalism is like. Congratulations to the Denver Gazette for
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taking the time, the energy, and the resources to do
the fully requests in this case Open Records Act to
do the Open Records Act request to get and obtain
the emails, and to show us that city officials, cops, police, chief,
city manager, all of them have been lying to us
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about what's been going on with Trenda Ragua. The internal
emails probably shed a greater light on the scope of
tda's presence and their operation in the Denver metro area,
at the same time that Aurora, Denver and the Governor's
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office continue to downplay their presence in this state. In
a statement, Paulus said, the governor is quote committed to
supporting local law enforcement and their work to keep our
community safe. Bun't you just admit that we got a
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problem with TDA in this state now, Theer's office said this.
The state was first notified by Homeland Security in late
July that they were monitoring activity in Aurora. The state
then immediately reached out to the city of Aurora, including
the governor reaching out to the mayor to offer any
assistance needed. When Governor Police met with Mayor Kaufman in
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late July, we were informed that the city did not
have a strong criminal case yet and the state offered
dedicated investigative support in the form of troopers and CBIA
just to work cases, and the Department and the Emergency
Management Department to provide analysts to support investigations to identify
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interest known criminal gang elements. This is smoke screening. This
is okay, well, you know what, you might have a problem.
If you do have a problem, you know, we're just
telling you publicly, you can call us and we'll give
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you whatever you need, saying now, at least publicly they're saying, hey,
no problem, we don't need anything. Everything's under control. Everything's
fine here. This is just another example of how this
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is why I think Trump's wimming. This is why there's
a political realignment going on, whether it's daylight saving time
and the inability of Congress or for that matter, of
the Colorado polit Bureau, because you know, they could adopt,
you know, their own law that says if and when
you know other states do this, then we will become
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part of or if the national government doesn't, we will
approve it. Or Congress could just step in and say,
you know what, we're not gonna do this anymore. And
I could step in and take a break. But it's
daylight saving time, so it's only five forty five, so
I've got plenty of time to go here.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Good morning, Michael and Dragon.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Hey.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Yeah, the police of law no endeavors the central Hub
because it is they love the ability to use our
interstate system to go anywhere and go anywhere quickly. I
seventy I twenty five, I eighty goes across the whole
nation north to south. I twenty five practically does. They
can go anywhere and fast. They've known about it, they're
(30:20):
doing it. I don't know what they're doing about it.
But politics, well, there you go.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, and you make a great point. I mean we've
known for decades, if not longer, that we were a hub.
We were a hub for you know, when marijuana was illegal,
you know when coke was the big thing. And again
it's because of you think about the mouse trap and
the and the ability just from the mouse trap to
(30:47):
go almost any direction anywhere in the country. You go
just north of the mouse trap a little bit, get
onto seventy six and boy you're head of You're headed
to eighty and you can go east, or you can
go do and hit eight and you can go west,
you can go south, and hit forty and go east
or west. You can just you can stay on seventy
and go east or west, up and down any direction.
(31:10):
So we've known that forever. The difference now is that
it's gone from you know, I'm not trying to minimize
drug trafficking, but now you think about you think about
a gang. You know, I used to talk about MS
thirteen as being the most because we had to deal
(31:32):
with MS thirteen when I was the undersecretary, as being
one of the most violent brutal gangs on the face
of the earth. And now Trenda Ragua is exponentially worse
than MS thirteen. And DHS put points out in an
email that indeed, where's that part of this story where
(31:56):
they talk about they want to make Denver their headquarters.
Now people often talk and you know the vernacular as
a as a local that when people talk about Denver,
they're talking about the Denver metro area, whether it's Thornton
or whether it's Aurora, or whether it's Lakewood or you know,
(32:19):
whatever it is Centennial, it's Denver. They want to make
this the headquarters. And ICE told officials that they told
them that the lesson to learn from this is this
(32:39):
realignment that I think that I see going on in
our politics, and this kind of almost color revolutionists beginning
to occur against entrenched politicians. It's not just at the
national level, it's at the local level.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Two.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
And it's incumbent upon us to make sure that everybody
knows within your sphere of influence that Aurora and Denver
and the governor's office have been lying to you about
just how bad this problem is, and the Denver Gazette,
congratulations for proving it.
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