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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Michael Michael, I didn't hear any of these people panicking
about vaccines and health mentioned tuberculosis once. Isn't that like
a real problem right now?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And I wonder where it's coming from. Hmmm, oh yeah,
illegal aliens coming into the country, spreading disease far and wide,
as far as the eye can see, tuberculosis and all
sorts of diseases. I'm going to go back for just
a moment to doctor Keavita Patel over on MSNBC because
I want to tie that into a hearing that was
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held yesterday about the CDC and the NIH. Thank you
so much for joining us this morning. Let's just start
here what we know of Robert F.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Kennedy's health beliefs and the policy changes he wants to implement.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Just what sort of impact would that have on Americans,
particularly our children. Yeah, Jonathan, it's a pretty seismic shift
in health policy, period, public health policy, certainly, because disappointment
could lead to just elevation of all of these prominent
vaccine skeptics disinformation. To your point about children, all we
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have to do is look at the state of Florida,
where the surgeon general there had been incredibly relaxed about vaccine,
not even vaccine mandates, Jonathan, he was incredibly relaxed about
active measles cases and parents should quote decide if you
can send your children to school with active measles. So
I don't think it's trivial to say that this is
undermining the future health of not just one generation, several generations,
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because think about how long it's taken to end literally
polio measles. We have vaccines that can truly eradicate these diseases,
and now we'll see not only again an elevation of
nothing related to science, not evidence based approaches, but a
dismantling of that critical public health infrastructure. And coming out
of COVID, thinking about all the kind of threats that
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we have to public health in general, I can't think
of a time when we needed.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Trust in health institutions.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
And there's just not going to be any of that
with a secretarial appointment at this level.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You know, if you're a legal alien and you're trying
to immigrate into the United States, with the exception of HIV,
you have to show that you don't have any communical,
communical communicable diseases as I know communicable. But if you're
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coming here illegally, nobody checks, nobody cares, and she's all worried,
she's panic stricken about this somehow undermining public trust in
our public health institutions. Well, yesterday, ironically, now, that SoundBite
you heard was from yesterday morning. Yesterday afternoon, senior officials
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with the Centers for Disease Controls CDC, the FDA and
the NIH, the Food and Drug Administration, and the National
Institutes of Health admitted that their action of their agencies
undermine public trust during the COVID nineteen pandemic. Those admissions
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came yesterday during a House Select subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic.
During the hearing, Congresswoman Debbie LESCo, a Republican from down
in Arizona, pressed these public health officials regarding their culpability
in eroding public confidence and health agencies. She said this quote,
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Americans have decreased trust less trust in the federal health
agencies after COVID, and I want to know from each
of you if you or your agencies believe that you
played a role in that, and if so, how are
you going to change it. Doctor Lawrence Tobak, who's the
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principal Deputy director of the NI eighth said this, well,
of course, this was a very fluid situation, and as
of course you appreciate from your work on this committee,
and we understand that we have a we have to
we have to do a much much better job of
being more transparent, of doing better communication, of getting into communities,
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working with trusted partners in communities. What bull crap talking
about word salid that's a word salad. Let me read
it without my own inflection. Let's just read it verbatim.
Of course, this was a very fluid situation. As of
course you appreciate from your work on this committee, and
we understand that we have to do a much much
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better job of being more transparent, of doing better communication,
of getting into communities, working with trusted partners in communities.
What does that mean? Can you tell me what that means? Yeah,
we fed up and we need to do a better job.
And we were just off on our messaging. We just
didn't do a very good job of messaging. Everything's a
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about messaging. He went on to add, the public health
officials need to focus on local trust and that we
can't just parachute in that's that's like saying that human
beings shouldn't poop anymore. It's a necessary bodily function. Well,
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I know you're thinking to yourself, what kind of analogies
he trying to draw here. Well, parachuting in to a
local community and dictating what a local community or a
state or a municipal government ought to be doing or
has to be doing, is the very nature of federal government.
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That's why we had this election we had. That's why
we had the turnout that we did. That's why we
had the landslide that we did, because we're sick of that.
We're sick of this behemoth in inside the Beltway telling
us what to do. Well, it's just, you know, we
gotta learn. We can't just parachute in. Okay, I gotta
learn stop pooping. I gotta you know, I gotta start.
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I gotta learn stop taking a whiz. I gotta learn
stop eating. Just you know, stop. I'm just I need
to stop eating. It's in our very nature, and it's
in the very nature of the federal government to do
exactly what they did during COVID nineteen trust. He went
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on to say, this trust is critical for a public
health agency. The pandemic was moving quickly, and the virus
was changing rapidly. We were putting out a lot of
guidance almost weekly, and it became very difficult even to
find the information that was needed on our CDC dot
gov website. You know, Larry reminds me just a little
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parenthetical here. So yesterday I was trying to I need
a little piece of body work done on the jeep,
and so I can't take it to the garage because
they don't do body work. So I'm calling over at
a place that you know might be you know, a
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Nation of Autos, for example, and I go on the
website to I just because this guy's talking about how
you couldn't find information on the CDC website. It's because
you took it down. Well yesterday, I go on. Now,
I'm a returning customer. This is this is where I
bought the jeep. So I type in my phone number
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and it says we can't authenticate you because you haven't
set up two factor authorization. So I clicked okay, thinking
it would take me so I could set up two
factor authentication, right dragon, Yeah, it seems legit. I get
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I get into this Kafka esque kind of circle of
Dante's Circle of Hell, where no matter what I did,
it kept taking me back to put in my cell
phone number, and then it wouldn't accept the cell phone number,
even though it says we're in. You're in our system,
but we can't let you in our system because you
haven't set up two factor A. Two factor authentication. You
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need to set up to FA and so plug in
your phone numbers. So I plug in my face. It's
just I kept going in. This circle makes perfect sense.
So I went on to the little chat you know,
there's always a little chat box, and thank goodness, I
printed it out because I'm taking it to the to
the general manager at that dealership. And how may I
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help you? May I have your name? Please, Michael? What's
your Why can I help you with? Michael? Well, I
need tech support, I need to speak. I need a
phone number to call because I need to set up
two factor authentication and the website won't let me do that.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Please, to the love of God, tell me. I told
you to enter in your phone number.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
No, he said, please hold on, let me get that
number for you. So I'm like, oh wow, this is
going to work. And then he asked, can I have
the making model of your vehicle. And I said yes,
but why because I'm looking for a technical phone number.
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And he goes and something came back. I need it
for the quality control that I need to I'm required
to ask you that. Okay, well it's a twenty twenty
one Jeep Grand Cherokee l Rato. You know I don't
have the VIN you need the VN. No, I just
need to making model. So now it's I'm thinking, that
makes no sense whatsoever, because how many twenty twenty one
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jeep Grand Church the rados or they're out there? And
he asked me a cou one more questions and says,
hang on, And so I hang on, and I can see,
like you know, it has a little dots showing that
he's typing or doing something. So I'm watching, and I'm watching,
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and I keep and I find myself I'm actually leaning in,
like anticipating that any moment, what are you gonna say,
I'm going to get the phone number. I'm gonna be
able to call them and we be able to get
this fixed. And then suddenly it says, thank you for
the chat. Would you like to copy of this chat?
He just went away. He just went away, he had
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more important things to do. So I call. It gets better.
So now I call the service department and it has
a phone tree. Oh, I call him main number. It
has a phone tree, and number one is for service.
I did so many times. I remember. Number one was
for service, number two was for sales, number three was
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for finance, number four was for parts, and number five
was for any other matter or to speak to an operator.
Those are the five choices. So I'd press one for service,
and it would take me through the tree again. It
would give me the options, the same tree, same exact,
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same tree exactly. So then I tried too. I tried,
I tried all of them, and so finally I just
at this point, I thought, I know who will answer
the phone. Sales, right, sales is going to answer the phones. Yeah,
so I pushed number two for sales. Sure enough, somebody
gets right on immediately immediately. Hi, this is Dragon red Beard.
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How can I help you. I'm trying to schedule service
and find a number because the website won't let me
schedule service. Oh, I can help you with that, and
it's just like silence. He disappears. I go into hell again,
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into this hell. So I call back sales get a
different person, and now I've got the lawyer's voice on.
I need to speak to the general manager. Oh, how
can I help you? Why does that even speak to
the general manager? So what was it? The general manager's
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name is because I now have a cell phone, his
name is Ryan, I won't give you his last name.
I got Ryan's cell phone number. Now, wow. So I
get right on the phone and I explained to write.
I said, Ryan, please don't interrupt me. Just listen to
what I've been going through for the past twenty minutes,
just trying to schedule service, which I know is a
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significant source of revenue for your dealership. And he listens
to me, and he goes and I can hear him
mumbling uwner his breath, and now he starts to and
I can hear the word corporate. So I know he's
really pissed off because he can't do anything about it,
because it's a corporate.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Problem, right, anything with the website, because just like we
can't do anything I know.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
And I said, listen, Ryan, before you get upset with me,
trust me, I understand your frustration because I work for
a big company too, and we can't do anything with
our website, and so when it's all screwed up and
people yell at us, we can't do anything about it.
And I said, all I'm trying to do is I'm
trying to set up to FA. And of course then
he's like, what's TOOA. Oh what's two FA two factor authentication?
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Oh oh, well, let me see if I can do
it for you. Now now I'm just toying with the guy.
Now I'm just having fun, and now he's going to
do the same thing. I'm like, I still badly want
to say I told you so, but I didn't. He goes,
but he did say, I understand your problem. He said,
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Can I go ahead and schedule an appointment for you?
I said, well, I guess so, I said, but the
problems I need to look at your calendar so I
can see my calendar so I can figure out what date.
Otherwise we're gonna be You're gonna be offering me days
and I'm gonna be looking at my calendar and I'm
gonna say no. And so let's just do this. I
want the first available date and it has to be
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no earlier than ten thirty am, because I can't get
there before ten thirty. Okay, Well, how about we do
Monday Monday at ten am. I even listen, I can't
be there before ten. I can't. I can't be there
before ten thirty. He is, Well, almost have set it
up for ten am. It's okay. If you don't show
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up to ten thirty, I'm gonna put a note in
there that you actually won't be heret'll ten thirty, but
that's the slot we have. We're gonna do it. I'm like,
oh my god, how's this gonna work out?
Speaker 6 (14:46):
Well?
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Cancel the appointment because you were over fifteen minutes late?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I know, and that's my fear. So on Monday, I'm
gonna dash out of here as fast as possible to
get over there to make sure that I don't get
But if it does get canceled, I'd got Bryan's cell phone.
So when I read this story about that, it became
very difficult even to find the information that was needed
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on our CDC dot gov website. I thought, yes, that's
exactly what I went through yesterday. And do you remember us?
Maybe you and I didn't do it so much, but
I know, I know you and I discussed it that
there would be stuff on the bear's website that would
suddenly disappear, like the advert the number of adverse reactions
or the number of hospitalizations, or the numbers of death
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with COVID, or you know, because of COVID. There was
always all this misinformation. And this guy's actually admitting this
to this congresswoman from Arizona, that yeah, we affed up
the website completely. We couldn't do anything about it. And
then he went on to add that the CDC listen
to this. The CDC, this is just like the cheap place.
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Tried to make changes, especially to how data and information
are displayed and provided on his website, but was unable
to do so, and they're worried about us losing faith
in our public health institutions. Then doctor Hillary Marston, the
FDA's chief medical officer, agreed with everything that doctor Walke said.
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She emphasized the need that federal agencies need to work
better with individuals in clinical settings to understand Americans' needs
better and communicate with them more effectively. And I'm thinking,
listen to this closely, the need for federal agencies to
work better with individuals in clinical settings. Now, I'm not
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quite sure how to interpret that but when I go
to a clinic, am I an individual in a clinical setting?
I think I am. I don't want the CDC in
the clinic room, in the pag your room with me.
I don't want the federal government in there. Oh, and
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they're worried about Bobby Kennedy Junior. I think we've got
bigger problems than Bobby Kennedy Junior. If you can just
fix the CDC website, that'll be amazing in and of itself.
And by the way, do you think about remember the
oh she was the public or he she whatever he
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was the public health officer? That trans trans to a
woman or something.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
Hey, Mike, I don't understand about these vaccines. If I
send my child to school and has been vaccinated, and
you send your child to school and has not been vaccinated,
what am.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I worried about.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
If the vaccine works, my child is protected. If the
vaccine is so poor that everyone has to be vaccinated
just to have a chance that everyone is okay, then
what is the use of the thattor.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
You can't ask those kinds of questions? How dare you
leave a talk back asking a logical question like that? However,
it does qualify you to be the Secretary of Health
and Human Services. Before we get back to the hearing,
I thought we ought to go to probably one of
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the greatest health experts of all times and find out
what this particular person's take is on the appointment of
Bobby Kennedy Junior to be or the nomination of Bobby
Kennedy Junior to be the next Secretary of Health and
Human Services.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
He would be confirmed, and then go after them. Let's
talk about RFK Junior and we're talking a little bit
in the break. Let's bring that forward to TV. Some
of the concerns you have about what he might do
to Ansen set.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
I think that's what's very important too, is that, yes,
there are these concerns about that you have a baby
and anywhere in the world, I mean, protecting against polio,
against measles, against very serious communical diseases that I mean,
we would be talking about going back to the what
seventeen hundred, eighteen hundred. I mean, this is serious. But
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on top of that, if you're a Republican that voted
for Donald Trump, you believe in his agenda. Something that
is broadly popular among Republicans and Democrats are community health centers.
Speaker 9 (19:32):
If you live in a rural.
Speaker 8 (19:33):
Area and there's not a hospital very close to you,
but there is a community center closer to you, it
could be decimated under Robert F.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Kennedy.
Speaker 8 (19:42):
And we're talking about people who live in rural communities.
We're talking about people who live in underserved communities that
have been neglected in order to whether it's to get
a shot or just to get checked up on Sure,
you were talking about the potential decimation of community health centers.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
And we talk down and gotten to Tulsea Gabbert ascentially
having access to national security information, and russeiall loves it,
and I actually think, you know, wait a.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Minute, did you hear what she said at the end?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (20:14):
And russeiall loves it, loves her, and I actually.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Think does she does? She actually think it's hard to say.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
You look into those eyes and you're not really sure
if anything's there.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I wonder on what basis serious question, On what basis
does she claim that rural health centers could be decimated.
Has in any of the speeches that Bobby Kennedy gave
at any of the Trump rallies, did he talk about
how he wanted to destroy rural health centers. I don't
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ever remember those words even coming out of his mouth,
rural health center. But AOC is absolutely convinced that he's
going to decimate rural health centers. Now let's go back
to the hearing. So now we know that Van Jones
Claims that Bobby Kennedy Jr. Is going to destroy the
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very pillar and foundations of this nation. Yes, aoc oh
and Jake Tapper says that now we're going to have
an absolute epidemic, a pandemic of measle outbreaks all over
the world. I mean, don't pay any attention to the
tuberculosis over there. Just worry about the measles because that's
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just going to break out everywhere. And polio. Everybody's going
to be in a wheelchair because of polio is going
to be devastating, leprosy, everything's coming back all because of
Bobby Kennedy Junior. Wow, what power. And the CDC, the
same organization that tells you they can protect us from
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all of this stuff, admits they can't fix their website.
Somebody say on the text line that my bitching about
the auto dealership that it would be wonderful if there
was a maybe a radio program that you could call
and perhaps you know, call in and have somebody maybe
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troubleshoot the dealership issue. Never heard of it. I don't know.
I have no clue what they're talking about. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
A show that would start at ten o'clock and rentil
two o'clock hosted by this Tom Marino guy.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah, Tom Marino, and in fact he ought to adopt
the Moniker troubleshooter. I mean, I just you know, as
a hint, write that down. You'll make millions. Okay, all right, So,
and maybe the CDC should call about fixing their website
Americans have. By the way, this is the congresswoman. This
is missus les Lescow or whatever her name is, from Arizona.
Speaker 10 (23:00):
Trust Less trust in the federal health agencies after COVID,
and I want to know from each of you if
you or your agencies believe that you played a role
in that, and if so, how are you.
Speaker 11 (23:13):
Going to change it?
Speaker 9 (23:16):
Well, since I have my mic on, I'll start. Of course,
this was a very fluid situation, as you of course
appreciate from your work on this committee, and we understand
that we have to do a much much better job
of being more transparent, of doing better communication, of getting
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into communities, working with trusted partners in communities.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
You just can't so.
Speaker 9 (23:43):
Called parachute in and expect people to benefit from your wisdom.
You have to have a real conversation with them in
a transparent manner.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I love it this bureaucrap, you know. I guess we
just can't expect we can just parachute in, expect people
just to benefit from our wisdom. You talk about the
arrogance of the deep state. That's it right there. I
guess we need to learn that, you know, our jobs
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just to parachute in and let them, you know, just
revel in the area of our wisdom. But apparently that
doesn't work because you pleaded out there. You people that
listen to the situation with Michael Brown or just a
bunch of dumbasses that just don't get it. It's your fault,
not theirs.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I would agree with doctor t Back. Trust is critical
for a public health agency. There was a number of
the pandemic was moving quickly, the virus was changing rapidly.
We were putting out a lot of guidance almost weekly,
and it became very difficult even to find the information
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that was needed On our CEC dot gov website, we
have made changes try to be a lot more transparent.
We streamlined and actually our website by about sixty percent.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
We've tried to.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Try to move to make it more playing language so
it's more accessible to the American public. So we acknowledge
that there were their challenges here and we are responding today.
Speaker 11 (25:16):
Yes, I would agree as well. I think one of
the things that we've been working on is how to
work in concert with individuals who are in other settings,
clinical settings, the individuals right before us, right now, people
who also have the ear of the American people, and
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trying to make sure that we're putting out information that
is both high quality, up to our scientific standards, and adjustable.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I think science in general has suffered a severe setback,
and I think that's because of the World Health Organization,
the NIH, the CDC, the NIAI, d HHS, all these
from the bureaucrats that quite honestly misled Donald Trump in
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his first term. And I understand fully why you would
put someone like Bobby Kennedy in there. I don't agree
with everything about Bobby Kennedy. On vaccines, I vaccinate myself.
I mean, I'll do it myself when I get vaccinated,
and I vaccinate my dogs, we vaccinated our children. I
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am a skeptic though I highly question the efficacy of
the stars CoV two so called vaccine. I don't think
it's a vaccine whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
So did the left in the very beginning too, Are
you trump vaccine? You're gonna take the Trump shot, it's
the Trump shot, Trump shot. Oh yeah, I would never
take take a Trump shot.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah. And then you're a selfish bastard if you don't
take the Biden shot. Right. And then on top of
all of that, you've got you've got this idea that
just asking questions or being skeptical is somehow that's wrong.
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I thought that was in the very dna of science,
that you were skeptical, that you questioned everything, and you
you tested your your premise, your assumptions. Do you go
you you test egg? I don't. These people are so
discombobulated because there is a disruptor. And I'm not talking
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about Bobby Kennedy, I'm talking about Donald Trump. There's a
disruptor that says we're going to change the way we
do business because the way we're doing business is simply
not working. It's not working at Homeland Security. It's not
working in the Pentagon, it's not it's not working on
the border. It's not working in HHS, it's not working
in Interior. It's not working in the CIA, it's not
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working in the dn I, it's not working anywhere. So
I'm gonna put disruptors in all these places, and they're
they're in full blown panic mode. And the best part
of it is, other than maybe a majority, I shouldn't
say a majority, but maybe a Matt Gates won't be
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able to get enough votes to be confirmed as AG.
But I bet ninety nine of this cabinet gets confirmed.
And what's frustrating these bureaucrats, the deep state, and what's
frustrating the cabal in every aspect of the cabal. So
they can't stop it, and they can't stop it, and
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I can't stop for a break.
Speaker 12 (28:41):
It's Tom Martinez followed by Brian Shoestring working at that station.
You'd think you would know how the lineup works.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Like that, Brian Shoestring, Brian schusting from people.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
That's a good new one. I like that as long
as we're on AOC. She's added again. Whoops, see what's
going on here. Maybe I should call that Martinez guy
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to fix the stuff in the studio.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
He can't tell you how to properly click an MP
three file.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Bro Oh, he can't what's going on here?
Speaker 8 (29:34):
I think a lot of people were finding out this
week what a teriff meant. That the tariff is not
what China or some other country pays, it's what you pay,
what we pay. I think a lot of people aren't
ready for mass deportations and what that means. One in
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every fifteen people in this country lives in a mixed
status family, so that means that we're talking about one
in every fifteen people potentially having their families broken apart.
I don't think we're ready for that, including what that
means for the economy.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
What what does that have to do with tariffs? I'm confused.
Was I not paying attention the whole time? That's probably true.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I'm not.
Speaker 8 (30:26):
I don't think most people are. I think a lot
of people were finding out this week what.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
A teriff meant.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
That the tariff is not what China or some other
country pays, it's what you pay, what we pay. I
think a lot of people aren't ready for mass deportations,
and what that means. One in every fifteen people in
this country lives in a mixed status family, So that
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means that we're talking about one in every fifteen people
potentially having their families broken apart. I don't think we're
ready for that, including what that means for the economy.
I don't think we're ready for the cens censorship that
is coming, and for a whole lot more. But our
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job right now is to get ready and to prepare.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I don't get it. I don't get it. She doesn't
understand tariffs. Yeah, you put you put one hundred percent
tariff on a car that's imported from China. Yes, the
consumer pays for that, but the consumer is going to
look at, oh, that Chinese car instead of costing ten
thousand dollars, cost twenty thousand dollars. But I can go
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over here and buy an American made car for ten
thousand dollars. So I think, you know, I think rather
than support the Chinese, I think I'll go over here
and buy an American made car. She doesn't get that,
and is it our fault. It's not my fault. I
take no responsibility whatsoever for a family that is a
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mixed status family. Maybe grandparents are here illegally, but the
grandkids are here illegally. Not my problem. Should have thought
about that. You came here illegally, you stayed here illegally.
And she also assumes that if we start deporting that, yeah,
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some families may get broken up, and some families may
say to themselves, well, you know what, bye, see grandkids. Later,
we'll come to Mexico and see you. We're staying here
because we did it the right way. Not my problem. Censorship.
I think we're getting rid of the censorship. I think
(32:50):
she's got a lot of things backwards. But then it's
Alexandria Cassia Cortez. What do you expect
Michael Michael, I didn't hear any of these people panicking
about vaccines and health mentioned tuberculosis once. Isn't that like
a real problem right now?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And I wonder where it's coming from. Hmmm, oh yeah,
illegal aliens coming into the country, spreading disease far and wide,
as far as the eye can see, tuberculosis and all
sorts of diseases. I'm going to go back for just
a moment to doctor Keavita Patel over on MSNBC because
I want to tie that into a hearing that was
(00:32):
held yesterday about the CDC and the NIH. Thank you
so much for joining us this morning. Let's just start
here what we know of Robert F.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Kennedy's health beliefs and the policy changes he wants to implement.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Just what sort of impact would that have on Americans,
particularly our children. Yeah, Jonathan, it's a pretty seismic shift
in health policy, period, public health policy, certainly, because disappointment
could lead to just elevation of all of these prominent
vaccine skeptics disinformation. To your point about children, all we
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have to do is look at the state of Florida,
where the surgeon general there had been incredibly relaxed about vaccine,
not even vaccine mandates, Jonathan, he was incredibly relaxed about
active measles cases and parents should quote decide if you
can send your children to school with active measles. So
I don't think it's trivial to say that this is
undermining the future health of not just one generation, several generations,
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because think about how long it's taken to end literally
polio measles. We have vaccines that can truly eradicate these diseases,
and now we'll see not only again an elevation of
nothing related to science, not evidence based approaches, but a
dismantling of that critical public health infrastructure. And coming out
of COVID, thinking about all the kind of threats that
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we have to public health in general, I can't think
of a time when we needed.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Trust in health institutions.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
And there's just not going to be any of that
with a secretarial appointment at this level.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You know, if you're a legal alien and you're trying
to immigrate into the United States, with the exception of HIV,
you have to show that you don't have any communical,
communical communicable diseases as I know communicable. But if you're
(02:22):
coming here illegally, nobody checks, nobody cares, and she's all worried,
she's panic stricken about this somehow undermining public trust in
our public health institutions. Well, yesterday, ironically, now, that SoundBite
you heard was from yesterday morning. Yesterday afternoon, senior officials
(02:47):
with the Centers for Disease Controls CDC, the FDA and
the NIH, the Food and Drug Administration, and the National
Institutes of Health admitted that their action of their agencies
undermine public trust during the COVID nineteen pandemic. Those admissions
(03:10):
came yesterday during a House Select subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic.
During the hearing, Congresswoman Debbie LESCo, a Republican from down
in Arizona, pressed these public health officials regarding their culpability
in eroding public confidence and health agencies. She said this quote,
(03:35):
Americans have decreased trust less trust in the federal health
agencies after COVID, and I want to know from each
of you if you or your agencies believe that you
played a role in that, and if so, how are
you going to change it. Doctor Lawrence Tobak, who's the
(03:57):
principal Deputy director of the NI eighth said this, well,
of course, this was a very fluid situation, and as
of course you appreciate from your work on this committee,
and we understand that we have a we have to
we have to do a much much better job of
being more transparent, of doing better communication, of getting into communities,
(04:17):
working with trusted partners in communities. What bull crap talking
about word salid that's a word salad. Let me read
it without my own inflection. Let's just read it verbatim.
Of course, this was a very fluid situation. As of
course you appreciate from your work on this committee, and
we understand that we have to do a much much
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better job of being more transparent, of doing better communication,
of getting into communities, working with trusted partners in communities.
What does that mean? Can you tell me what that means? Yeah,
we fed up and we need to do a better job.
And we were just off on our messaging. We just
didn't do a very good job of messaging. Everything's a
(05:00):
about messaging. He went on to add, the public health
officials need to focus on local trust and that we
can't just parachute in that's that's like saying that human
beings shouldn't poop anymore. It's a necessary bodily function. Well,
(05:27):
I know you're thinking to yourself, what kind of analogies
he trying to draw here. Well, parachuting in to a
local community and dictating what a local community or a
state or a municipal government ought to be doing or
has to be doing, is the very nature of federal government.
(05:48):
That's why we had this election we had. That's why
we had the turnout that we did. That's why we
had the landslide that we did, because we're sick of that.
We're sick of this behemoth in inside the Beltway telling
us what to do. Well, it's just, you know, we
gotta learn. We can't just parachute in. Okay, I gotta
learn stop pooping. I gotta you know, I gotta start.
(06:11):
I gotta learn stop taking a whiz. I gotta learn
stop eating. Just you know, stop. I'm just I need
to stop eating. It's in our very nature, and it's
in the very nature of the federal government to do
exactly what they did during COVID nineteen trust. He went
(06:34):
on to say, this trust is critical for a public
health agency. The pandemic was moving quickly, and the virus
was changing rapidly. We were putting out a lot of
guidance almost weekly, and it became very difficult even to
find the information that was needed on our CDC dot
gov website. You know, Larry reminds me just a little
(06:58):
parenthetical here. So yesterday I was trying to I need
a little piece of body work done on the jeep,
and so I can't take it to the garage because
they don't do body work. So I'm calling over at
a place that you know might be you know, a
(07:19):
Nation of Autos, for example, and I go on the
website to I just because this guy's talking about how
you couldn't find information on the CDC website. It's because
you took it down. Well yesterday, I go on. Now,
I'm a returning customer. This is this is where I
bought the jeep. So I type in my phone number
(07:40):
and it says we can't authenticate you because you haven't
set up two factor authorization. So I clicked okay, thinking
it would take me so I could set up two
factor authentication, right dragon, Yeah, it seems legit. I get
(08:03):
I get into this Kafka esque kind of circle of
Dante's Circle of Hell, where no matter what I did,
it kept taking me back to put in my cell
phone number, and then it wouldn't accept the cell phone number,
even though it says we're in. You're in our system,
but we can't let you in our system because you
haven't set up two factor A. Two factor authentication. You
(08:25):
need to set up to FA and so plug in
your phone numbers. So I plug in my face. It's
just I kept going in. This circle makes perfect sense.
So I went on to the little chat you know,
there's always a little chat box, and thank goodness, I
printed it out because I'm taking it to the to
the general manager at that dealership. And how may I
(08:46):
help you? May I have your name? Please, Michael? What's
your Why can I help you with? Michael? Well, I
need tech support, I need to speak. I need a
phone number to call because I need to set up
two factor authentication and the website won't let me do that.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Please, to the love of God, tell me. I told
you to enter in your phone number.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
No, he said, please hold on, let me get that
number for you. So I'm like, oh wow, this is
going to work. And then he asked, can I have
the making model of your vehicle. And I said yes,
but why because I'm looking for a technical phone number.
(09:29):
And he goes and something came back. I need it
for the quality control that I need to I'm required
to ask you that. Okay, well it's a twenty twenty
one Jeep Grand Cherokee l Rato. You know I don't
have the VIN you need the VN. No, I just
need to making model. So now it's I'm thinking, that
makes no sense whatsoever, because how many twenty twenty one
(09:54):
jeep Grand Church the rados or they're out there? And
he asked me a cou one more questions and says,
hang on, And so I hang on, and I can see,
like you know, it has a little dots showing that
he's typing or doing something. So I'm watching, and I'm watching,
(10:14):
and I keep and I find myself I'm actually leaning in,
like anticipating that any moment, what are you gonna say,
I'm going to get the phone number. I'm gonna be
able to call them and we be able to get
this fixed. And then suddenly it says, thank you for
the chat. Would you like to copy of this chat?
He just went away. He just went away, he had
(10:35):
more important things to do. So I call. It gets better.
So now I call the service department and it has
a phone tree. Oh, I call him main number. It
has a phone tree, and number one is for service.
I did so many times. I remember. Number one was
for service, number two was for sales, number three was
(10:56):
for finance, number four was for parts, and number five
was for any other matter or to speak to an operator.
Those are the five choices. So I'd press one for service,
and it would take me through the tree again. It
would give me the options, the same tree, same exact,
(11:17):
same tree exactly. So then I tried too. I tried,
I tried all of them, and so finally I just
at this point, I thought, I know who will answer
the phone. Sales, right, sales is going to answer the phones. Yeah,
so I pushed number two for sales. Sure enough, somebody
gets right on immediately immediately. Hi, this is Dragon red Beard.
(11:41):
How can I help you. I'm trying to schedule service
and find a number because the website won't let me
schedule service. Oh, I can help you with that, and
it's just like silence. He disappears. I go into hell again,
(12:03):
into this hell. So I call back sales get a
different person, and now I've got the lawyer's voice on.
I need to speak to the general manager. Oh, how
can I help you? Why does that even speak to
the general manager? So what was it? The general manager's
(12:25):
name is because I now have a cell phone, his
name is Ryan, I won't give you his last name.
I got Ryan's cell phone number. Now, wow. So I
get right on the phone and I explained to write.
I said, Ryan, please don't interrupt me. Just listen to
what I've been going through for the past twenty minutes,
just trying to schedule service, which I know is a
(12:47):
significant source of revenue for your dealership. And he listens
to me, and he goes and I can hear him
mumbling uwner his breath, and now he starts to and
I can hear the word corporate. So I know he's
really pissed off because he can't do anything about it,
because it's a corporate.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Problem, right, anything with the website, because just like we
can't do anything I know.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
And I said, listen, Ryan, before you get upset with me,
trust me, I understand your frustration because I work for
a big company too, and we can't do anything with
our website, and so when it's all screwed up and
people yell at us, we can't do anything about it.
And I said, all I'm trying to do is I'm
trying to set up to FA. And of course then
he's like, what's TOOA. Oh what's two FA two factor authentication?
(13:34):
Oh oh, well, let me see if I can do
it for you. Now now I'm just toying with the guy.
Now I'm just having fun, and now he's going to
do the same thing. I'm like, I still badly want
to say I told you so, but I didn't. He goes,
but he did say, I understand your problem. He said,
(13:55):
Can I go ahead and schedule an appointment for you?
I said, well, I guess so, I said, but the
problems I need to look at your calendar so I
can see my calendar so I can figure out what date.
Otherwise we're gonna be You're gonna be offering me days
and I'm gonna be looking at my calendar and I'm
gonna say no. And so let's just do this. I
want the first available date and it has to be
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no earlier than ten thirty am, because I can't get
there before ten thirty. Okay, Well, how about we do
Monday Monday at ten am. I even listen, I can't
be there before ten. I can't. I can't be there
before ten thirty. He is, Well, almost have set it
up for ten am. It's okay. If you don't show
(14:38):
up to ten thirty, I'm gonna put a note in
there that you actually won't be heret'll ten thirty, but
that's the slot we have. We're gonna do it. I'm like,
oh my god, how's this gonna work out?
Speaker 6 (14:46):
Well?
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Cancel the appointment because you were over fifteen minutes late?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I know, and that's my fear. So on Monday, I'm
gonna dash out of here as fast as possible to
get over there to make sure that I don't get
But if it does get canceled, I'd got Bryan's cell phone.
So when I read this story about that, it became
very difficult even to find the information that was needed
(15:08):
on our CDC dot gov website. I thought, yes, that's
exactly what I went through yesterday. And do you remember us?
Maybe you and I didn't do it so much, but
I know, I know you and I discussed it that
there would be stuff on the bear's website that would
suddenly disappear, like the advert the number of adverse reactions
or the number of hospitalizations, or the numbers of death
(15:31):
with COVID, or you know, because of COVID. There was
always all this misinformation. And this guy's actually admitting this
to this congresswoman from Arizona, that yeah, we affed up
the website completely. We couldn't do anything about it. And
then he went on to add that the CDC listen
to this. The CDC, this is just like the cheap place.
(15:55):
Tried to make changes, especially to how data and information
are displayed and provided on his website, but was unable
to do so, and they're worried about us losing faith
in our public health institutions. Then doctor Hillary Marston, the
FDA's chief medical officer, agreed with everything that doctor Walke said.
(16:21):
She emphasized the need that federal agencies need to work
better with individuals in clinical settings to understand Americans' needs
better and communicate with them more effectively. And I'm thinking,
listen to this closely, the need for federal agencies to
work better with individuals in clinical settings. Now, I'm not
(16:46):
quite sure how to interpret that but when I go
to a clinic, am I an individual in a clinical setting?
I think I am. I don't want the CDC in
the clinic room, in the pag your room with me.
I don't want the federal government in there. Oh, and
(17:09):
they're worried about Bobby Kennedy Junior. I think we've got
bigger problems than Bobby Kennedy Junior. If you can just
fix the CDC website, that'll be amazing in and of itself.
And by the way, do you think about remember the
oh she was the public or he she whatever he
(17:30):
was the public health officer? That trans trans to a
woman or something.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
Hey, Mike, I don't understand about these vaccines. If I
send my child to school and has been vaccinated, and
you send your child to school and has not been vaccinated,
what am.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I worried about.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
If the vaccine works, my child is protected. If the
vaccine is so poor that everyone has to be vaccinated
just to have a chance that everyone is okay, then
what is the use of the thattor.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
You can't ask those kinds of questions? How dare you
leave a talk back asking a logical question like that? However,
it does qualify you to be the Secretary of Health
and Human Services. Before we get back to the hearing,
I thought we ought to go to probably one of
(18:26):
the greatest health experts of all times and find out
what this particular person's take is on the appointment of
Bobby Kennedy Junior to be or the nomination of Bobby
Kennedy Junior to be the next Secretary of Health and
Human Services.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
He would be confirmed, and then go after them. Let's
talk about RFK Junior and we're talking a little bit
in the break. Let's bring that forward to TV. Some
of the concerns you have about what he might do
to Ansen set.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (18:54):
I think that's what's very important too, is that, yes,
there are these concerns about that you have a baby
and anywhere in the world, I mean, protecting against polio,
against measles, against very serious communical diseases that I mean,
we would be talking about going back to the what
seventeen hundred, eighteen hundred. I mean, this is serious. But
(19:17):
on top of that, if you're a Republican that voted
for Donald Trump, you believe in his agenda. Something that
is broadly popular among Republicans and Democrats are community health centers.
Speaker 9 (19:32):
If you live in a rural.
Speaker 8 (19:33):
Area and there's not a hospital very close to you,
but there is a community center closer to you, it
could be decimated under Robert F.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Kennedy.
Speaker 8 (19:42):
And we're talking about people who live in rural communities.
We're talking about people who live in underserved communities that
have been neglected in order to whether it's to get
a shot or just to get checked up on Sure,
you were talking about the potential decimation of community health centers.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
And we talk down and gotten to Tulsea Gabbert ascentially
having access to national security information, and russeiall loves it,
and I actually think, you know, wait a.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Minute, did you hear what she said at the end?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (20:14):
And russeiall loves it, loves her, and I actually.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Think does she does? She actually think it's hard to say.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
You look into those eyes and you're not really sure
if anything's there.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I wonder on what basis serious question, On what basis
does she claim that rural health centers could be decimated.
Has in any of the speeches that Bobby Kennedy gave
at any of the Trump rallies, did he talk about
how he wanted to destroy rural health centers. I don't
(20:52):
ever remember those words even coming out of his mouth,
rural health center. But AOC is absolutely convinced that he's
going to decimate rural health centers. Now let's go back
to the hearing. So now we know that Van Jones
Claims that Bobby Kennedy Jr. Is going to destroy the
(21:12):
very pillar and foundations of this nation. Yes, aoc oh
and Jake Tapper says that now we're going to have
an absolute epidemic, a pandemic of measle outbreaks all over
the world. I mean, don't pay any attention to the
tuberculosis over there. Just worry about the measles because that's
(21:35):
just going to break out everywhere. And polio. Everybody's going
to be in a wheelchair because of polio is going
to be devastating, leprosy, everything's coming back all because of
Bobby Kennedy Junior. Wow, what power. And the CDC, the
same organization that tells you they can protect us from
(21:56):
all of this stuff, admits they can't fix their website.
Somebody say on the text line that my bitching about
the auto dealership that it would be wonderful if there
was a maybe a radio program that you could call
and perhaps you know, call in and have somebody maybe
(22:20):
troubleshoot the dealership issue. Never heard of it. I don't know.
I have no clue what they're talking about. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
A show that would start at ten o'clock and rentil
two o'clock hosted by this Tom Marino guy.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah, Tom Marino, and in fact he ought to adopt
the Moniker troubleshooter. I mean, I just you know, as
a hint, write that down. You'll make millions. Okay, all right, So,
and maybe the CDC should call about fixing their website
Americans have. By the way, this is the congresswoman. This
is missus les Lescow or whatever her name is, from Arizona.
Speaker 10 (23:00):
Trust Less trust in the federal health agencies after COVID,
and I want to know from each of you if
you or your agencies believe that you played a role
in that, and if so, how are you.
Speaker 11 (23:13):
Going to change it?
Speaker 9 (23:16):
Well, since I have my mic on, I'll start. Of course,
this was a very fluid situation, as you of course
appreciate from your work on this committee, and we understand
that we have to do a much much better job
of being more transparent, of doing better communication, of getting
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into communities, working with trusted partners in communities.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
You just can't so.
Speaker 9 (23:43):
Called parachute in and expect people to benefit from your wisdom.
You have to have a real conversation with them in
a transparent manner.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I love it this bureaucrap, you know. I guess we
just can't expect we can just parachute in, expect people
just to benefit from our wisdom. You talk about the
arrogance of the deep state. That's it right there. I
guess we need to learn that, you know, our jobs
(24:14):
just to parachute in and let them, you know, just
revel in the area of our wisdom. But apparently that
doesn't work because you pleaded out there. You people that
listen to the situation with Michael Brown or just a
bunch of dumbasses that just don't get it. It's your fault,
not theirs.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I would agree with doctor t Back. Trust is critical
for a public health agency. There was a number of
the pandemic was moving quickly, the virus was changing rapidly.
We were putting out a lot of guidance almost weekly,
and it became very difficult even to find the information
(24:53):
that was needed On our CEC dot gov website, we
have made changes try to be a lot more transparent.
We streamlined and actually our website by about sixty percent.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
We've tried to.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Try to move to make it more playing language so
it's more accessible to the American public. So we acknowledge
that there were their challenges here and we are responding today.
Speaker 11 (25:16):
Yes, I would agree as well. I think one of
the things that we've been working on is how to
work in concert with individuals who are in other settings,
clinical settings, the individuals right before us, right now, people
who also have the ear of the American people, and
(25:36):
trying to make sure that we're putting out information that
is both high quality, up to our scientific standards, and adjustable.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I think science in general has suffered a severe setback,
and I think that's because of the World Health Organization,
the NIH, the CDC, the NIAI, d HHS, all these
from the bureaucrats that quite honestly misled Donald Trump in
(26:06):
his first term. And I understand fully why you would
put someone like Bobby Kennedy in there. I don't agree
with everything about Bobby Kennedy. On vaccines, I vaccinate myself.
I mean, I'll do it myself when I get vaccinated,
and I vaccinate my dogs, we vaccinated our children. I
(26:30):
am a skeptic though I highly question the efficacy of
the stars CoV two so called vaccine. I don't think
it's a vaccine whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
So did the left in the very beginning too, Are
you trump vaccine? You're gonna take the Trump shot, it's
the Trump shot, Trump shot. Oh yeah, I would never
take take a Trump shot.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah. And then you're a selfish bastard if you don't
take the Biden shot. Right. And then on top of
all of that, you've got you've got this idea that
just asking questions or being skeptical is somehow that's wrong.
(27:11):
I thought that was in the very dna of science,
that you were skeptical, that you questioned everything, and you
you tested your your premise, your assumptions. Do you go
you you test egg? I don't. These people are so
discombobulated because there is a disruptor. And I'm not talking
(27:36):
about Bobby Kennedy, I'm talking about Donald Trump. There's a
disruptor that says we're going to change the way we
do business because the way we're doing business is simply
not working. It's not working at Homeland Security. It's not
working in the Pentagon, it's not it's not working on
the border. It's not working in HHS, it's not working
in Interior. It's not working in the CIA, it's not
(27:58):
working in the dn I, it's not working anywhere. So
I'm gonna put disruptors in all these places, and they're
they're in full blown panic mode. And the best part
of it is, other than maybe a majority, I shouldn't
say a majority, but maybe a Matt Gates won't be
(28:18):
able to get enough votes to be confirmed as AG.
But I bet ninety nine of this cabinet gets confirmed.
And what's frustrating these bureaucrats, the deep state, and what's
frustrating the cabal in every aspect of the cabal. So
they can't stop it, and they can't stop it, and
(28:40):
I can't stop for a break.
Speaker 12 (28:41):
It's Tom Martinez followed by Brian Shoestring working at that station.
You'd think you would know how the lineup works.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Like that, Brian Shoestring, Brian schusting from people.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
That's a good new one. I like that as long
as we're on AOC. She's added again. Whoops, see what's
going on here. Maybe I should call that Martinez guy
(29:22):
to fix the stuff in the studio.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
He can't tell you how to properly click an MP
three file.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Bro Oh, he can't what's going on here?
Speaker 8 (29:34):
I think a lot of people were finding out this
week what a teriff meant. That the tariff is not
what China or some other country pays, it's what you pay,
what we pay. I think a lot of people aren't
ready for mass deportations and what that means. One in
(29:55):
every fifteen people in this country lives in a mixed
status family, so that means that we're talking about one
in every fifteen people potentially having their families broken apart.
I don't think we're ready for that, including what that
means for the economy.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
What what does that have to do with tariffs? I'm confused.
Was I not paying attention the whole time? That's probably true.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I'm not.
Speaker 8 (30:26):
I don't think most people are. I think a lot
of people were finding out this week what.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
A teriff meant.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
That the tariff is not what China or some other
country pays, it's what you pay, what we pay. I
think a lot of people aren't ready for mass deportations,
and what that means. One in every fifteen people in
this country lives in a mixed status family, So that
(30:56):
means that we're talking about one in every fifteen people
potentially having their families broken apart. I don't think we're
ready for that, including what that means for the economy.
I don't think we're ready for the cens censorship that
is coming, and for a whole lot more. But our
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job right now is to get ready and to prepare.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I don't get it. I don't get it. She doesn't
understand tariffs. Yeah, you put you put one hundred percent
tariff on a car that's imported from China. Yes, the
consumer pays for that, but the consumer is going to
look at, oh, that Chinese car instead of costing ten
thousand dollars, cost twenty thousand dollars. But I can go
(31:45):
over here and buy an American made car for ten
thousand dollars. So I think, you know, I think rather
than support the Chinese, I think I'll go over here
and buy an American made car. She doesn't get that,
and is it our fault. It's not my fault. I
take no responsibility whatsoever for a family that is a
(32:06):
mixed status family. Maybe grandparents are here illegally, but the
grandkids are here illegally. Not my problem. Should have thought
about that. You came here illegally, you stayed here illegally.
And she also assumes that if we start deporting that, yeah,
(32:28):
some families may get broken up, and some families may
say to themselves, well, you know what, bye, see grandkids. Later,
we'll come to Mexico and see you. We're staying here
because we did it the right way. Not my problem. Censorship.
I think we're getting rid of the censorship. I think
(32:50):
she's got a lot of things backwards. But then it's
Alexandria Cassia Cortez. What do you expect
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