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Speaker 2 (00:31):
Happy streaming, Good Morning, Happy Thursday.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
One week until Turkey Day? Who it is? One week
Turkey Day? Turkey and dressing sounds good? The View Now,
I keep hearing the View is getting canceled. They're moving.
In fact, Ellen DeGeneres and her girlfriend or wife or
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whatever she is, they've moved London permanently.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Day said I'm happy, I don't care, and it improved.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
It increased the average IQ of America by about four
points too. Remember the View once wanted doctor Jill Biden
to become the sergeant general.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
You're due whoop he did, whoop? He said it?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yes. Well now doctor mtt Oz, a renowned heart surgeon,
uh is apparently unqualified to be the director of Sinners
for Medicaid, Medicare ser Medicare and Medicaid Service whatever CMS whatever,
whatever stands for Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. I
think it is so here they were yesterday. But I
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want to just go through it entirely once and then
let's be constructed. Ask you what, thank you surprised man?
Speaker 6 (01:51):
If you know Oz is a very well known heart services.
This is an administrative position. But because he's on television,
Trump picks pole who are on TVY. You know, they
might as well picked up to pimple popper. I mean,
the guy is qualified to do heart surgery, not necessarily
run Medicare. And so that's just you know, Trump, It
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seems to me, with all of his choices, it seems
to me like he really is in the burning down mode.
Let's just destroy all these organizations and then start over again,
something like that's going on in his little brain.
Speaker 7 (02:23):
I agree with that. You know, I was reading an
op ed by Ezra Klein for the New York Times
and he said this. He said, you know, in agencies
they are trying to run, These people are inexperience they're ridiculous,
they're incompetent, they won't get anything done. They might even
fail to win confirmation in other countries. And at other
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times when would be authoritarians try to consolidate their power,
they do so by placing fools and gestures into positions
of extraordinary power. And he goes on to say the
absurdity is a cloak, it's a way of covering up
the fact that they are underestimated is a feature. The
loyalty that they have to the strong man is really
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the thing. And so he is hiring all of the
appointing all of these people that are woefully inadequate, woefully mediocre,
cannot do this job because he wants to consolidate power
as a fascist does. And we need to be very
clear eyed about and not so much joke about these
types of appointments, because he is doing this intentionally, right
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in front of our faces.
Speaker 8 (03:31):
So I'm honestly in wait and see mode. I'm kind
of eating my popcorn, and I've said.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
What i have to say about Donald Trump.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
You exactly.
Speaker 8 (03:39):
I said what I'm worried about about Donald Trump, and
I remain worried about the things that I said. But
he does have a right to pick who he wants
to doctor Oz listen, I wouldn't have been my choice,
but I think John Fetterman said it well. If doctor
Oz is about protecting and preserving Medicare and Medicaid, I'm
voting for the dude. It's an administrative job. He's going
to be surrounded by bureaucrats who know how to run
and manage those things. And on the Linda McMahon event,
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I kind of have to defend her because she started
what was a regional business turn it into a multi national,
multi billion dollar business. She was then small Business administrator
in the former Trump administration. She'd serve in the Connecticut
school Board, and I know a lot of this for
only a two years.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I think.
Speaker 8 (04:17):
I know this panel doesn't agree with school choice, but
I strongly do. And elections have consequences. I actually, I'm
going to say it now and I'll correct myself if
I'm wrong. I don't think Donald Trump is just going
to abolish the Department of Education. I think he's going
to move to invest more in voucher systems, in education
savings plans. And I personally, one of the things I
agree on is I think school choice is important. I
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think that the money should follow the student. We also
need to pay teachers more. We also need to have
a GI bill for teachers. But I don't think your wealth,
your ZIP coach should determine your outcome. We talk on
the show all the time about education's the great equalizer.
If you have a four year degree, you live nine
years longer. In this country, that starts at pre K.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
That's starting.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Everybody doesn't go to collegebody.
Speaker 8 (05:00):
I think they need to, But I don't think we
should make kids be victims of schools that are falling behind.
And if she moves that direction, I'm willing to say, does.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Your brain hurt? There's a lot to unpack, So let's
go through some of it because there's some there's some
very salient points here that I want you to stop
and just consider for a moment. So let's go back
to the beginning.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
What are you surprised?
Speaker 7 (05:26):
Man?
Speaker 6 (05:27):
Doctor Oz is a very well known heart survices. This
is an administrative position. But because he's on television.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Oh, he's a very well qualified heart surgeon. This is
an administrative position. But because he's on television.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Trump picks people who are on tv.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Ah, So Trump just picks people who are on TV.
Why is doctor Ows on TV? He still does heart
surgeon heart surgeries. He does something that I think that
quite frankly, more people out of you know, I do it.
I'm I'm a lawyer by training. I'm a former undersecretary,
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and I'm on the radio, and I appear a lot
on television, and I do so because I have I
have a certain expertise. So am I disqualified because News
Nation and Newsmax and Fox News and Fox Business will
have me on to talk about particular things going on?
Does that disqualify me because I am on TV? Because
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that's the point that Joey Behar is trying to make here. Now,
let's talk about her point about it's it's an administrator
a very well known hawk Shore.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
Yes, this is an administrative position.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
But do you not think that a medical doctor, forget
doctor oz, I would challenge you to go do this
with your own primary care physician. Go ask them about
Medicare and Medicaid. Go ask them about how reimbursement works.
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Go ask them how they get paid and how much
they get paid if their patient is a Medicare or
a Medicaid patient. Ask them about how much overhead they
have in their office solely to deal with the insurance company,
whether it be government insurance on the exchanges, or it
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happens to be Medicare and Medicaid. Ask your you know,
if you want to get an earfull, make sure you
got the time and the energy, because most doctors, if
you ask that question, are going to dump on you.
Because while they're busy trying to practice medicine, they're actually
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trying to you know, save people and get people healthier,
and take care of cure diseases and do all these
medical things. They're also over here running a business. And
whether they are a you know, whether they have a
practice that a sole practitioner, or they've got a practice
this scout five, ten, fifteen or twenty doctors in it,
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or even if they work for a conglomerate as a doctor,
they still have to deal with all that administrative stuff.
Now they may not do it directly, but they have
staff to do it, and the staff has to make
sure that they're doing what the doctor wants. And you know,
the doctor's going to be asking, hey, I just performed
open heart surgery and I got twelve dollars ninety five
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cents for it. Where's my reimbursement? Well, doctor, that's what medicares,
that's what they reimbursed you. You got twelve dollars ninety
five cents for that four and a half hour open
heart surgery. What how's that run around? They should represent
doctors in their business, not malpractice does's, but in their business,
so I know how they are when it comes they
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understand what's going on. They have to know what's going
on if they're going to be successful. I mean, yes,
they want to be successful in terms of the medical practice,
but they also want to be successful in terms of
their practice, the financially successful. So they'll belittling the fact that, oh,
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he's on TV, so he must not be qualified. That
tells me she's the one that's unqualified. She's the one
that's the idiot. She's the one that doesn't understand how
he business works.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Let's not forget who's the one that brought him onto TV,
the beloved Oprah.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Oh that's right, I forgot. I totally forgot about that. Yes,
so Oprah, the big oh bod him onto TV. But
let's attack them because that's the way we attack Trump.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Listen, because he's on television Trump picks people who are
on TV.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
You know, they might as well picked out the pimple
pop up.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
I mean, the guy is qualified to do heart surgery,
not necessarily run medicare.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Let me just tell you this. To run any of
these organizations, you have to have an IQ above room temperature.
I mean, you've got to be smart. You have to
be a stute, you have to be a good manager.
You have to understand people, and you have to understand that, Okay,
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this is what the boss wants, which is always find
fascinating because I mean, you know what doctors are like.
I mean, lawyers aren't like this at all, but you know,
doctors saying that there are God's gift to mankind and
lawyers never think that, but doctors do. So doctors are
notoriously smart individuals, and they notoriously notoriously is not the
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right word. Doctors always have to deal with other people,
whether it's the patients or their nursing staff, their insurance staff,
their front office staff, their schedulers, the pharmacists, everybody. They
have to deal with all of these people. So they
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have to have some management skills to do so. All
they're trying to do here is just integrate men at
OZ because oh, he's on TV, and Pete Haggeses happens
to be on TV. Linda McMahon happened to do something
that was on TV. Well, to which I say, BFD,
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so what you're on TV? So does that disqualify you
from doing anything else? Well, in the case of these
five ladies, probably does, because I don't know if they've
got the brain cells to do anything.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Like the clips that they chose for Linda McMahon, they
chose all from the WWE universe is to where she's
in the ring, either smacking her daughter or smacking some
of the other wrestlers. Not anything you know, outside of
the character that is Lindammann that's in the ww universe.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Nothing to do with the fact that she served on
the Connecticut Board of Education, nothing to do with the
fact that she actually built that from a startup into
a behemoth, you know, platform, nothing to do with her
skills whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
And if you wanted to see that, that is posted
at Michael says go here dot com. If again, if
you want to torture yourself, it's there.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yes, But I'm going to continue to torture because because
there's more that they say that I think is worth
thinking about.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Oh that's just but you know, Trump, it seems to me,
with all of his choices, it seems to me like
he really is in the burning down mode.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
That's what we voted for. We want to burn down.
They have such a lack of self awareness, they have
such an inability to understand that, Yes, we voted because
we want to tear this down. We want to tear
down the cabal. We want to rip apart the cabal,
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including the part that you're a part of. Joy behar. Yes,
we want to reduce the size of the federal government,
and that includes eliminating sun departments and agencies. If he
can pull it.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Off, let's just destroy all these organizations and then start
over again. Something like that's going on in his little brain.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Something like that, like, let's just destroy this and start
all over. Is that's what's going on in his little brain? Really,
because I think that's marvelous. I think that's wonderful. But
they're clueless about it, totally clueless that indeed, that's what
the American people voted for.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
I agree with that, you know. I was reading an
op ed by Ezra Klein.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
For the new boom. You know what's great about that?
Remember I've talked to you about how they live within
a bubble within a bubble. So Ezra Cline a columnist
for the New York Times. So here's Sonny Houston living
in New York, reading the New York Times and reading
a left wing, progressive Marxist columnist, Ezracline, who is a
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good right Don't get me wrong. He's a good writer.
He can make it, he can make a strong argument.
But here she is, that's her bubble, and now she's
taking that little bubble. How many people in that audience,
unless it happens to be a New York audience, but
most of them come from out of town. How many
people in that audience even have a clue who, as
(14:38):
Recline is I would even ask in this audience other
than the fact you've heard me mention him before. How
many people in this audience actually read The New York
Times other than me? Because I have to for show prep.
Most people in this country don't read the New York Times.
But that's their bubble. And now they're taking that bubble,
and they're taking a megaphone and making whatever said by
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Ezra Klein and blasting that out to their clapping seals
that are brain dead people that are just listening to
these ditss talk about something that they know nothing about.
So it's a great example of how they're in a
bubble inside a bubble.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
New York Times and he said this, he said, you know,
in agencies they are trying to run, these people are inexperience,
They're ridiculous, they're incompetent. They won't get anything done. They
might even fail to win confirmation in other countries and
at other times, when would be authoritarians try to consolidate
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their power, they do so by placing fools and gestures
into positions of extraordinary power.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Actually, I disagree with that. If you're an authoritarian, you're
a tyrannical dictator. What do you do to control the bureaucracy?
You put really are technocrats in those positions so that
they can use the bureaucracy to further consolidate your power.
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You don't put fools in, you don't put stupid people in.
You put the technocrats in. That's how you end up
with an administrative state. That's how Look, let me tell
you from personal experience in Russia, the people that I
dealt with in the bureaucracy in Russia amazingly smart people. Now,
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why why would Putin appoint smart people to his cabinet,
to his different ministries. Why would he appoint smart people
and not a bunch of dufuses. Because the smart people
are going to be are going to have the intellectual
capacity and the skills, which I would say people's skills,
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but they're not really people's skills. They're dictatorial skills to
do what Putin once done through the bureaucracy. So I
think Ezra Kleine's entirely wrong about that. He doesn't understand
how dictators work. I do, and I've dealt with the
political appointees of a dictator, Vladimir Putin, and I found
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them to be challenging, incredibly challenging, because they were smart.
They knew exactly what they were doing, and so I
had to be on my guard the entire time to
make certain that I wasn't being manipulated into doing what
they wanted to get done, as opposed to me getting
them to do what I wanted to get done. It
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was a clash of brain cells. So I think Ezra
Kline's wrong about that, but doesn't make a difference to
Sunny Houston because she just believes what Ezra Klein says
in the New York Times, because that's the bible of
the cabal. Oh, I'm not done hang time.
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Speaker 10 (18:59):
Michael, does not doctor Jill Biden have a doctor of education?
Clearly she's not qualified to be the surgeon general. I
think the voice, the voice the view, it's just scare bad.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
He must be new here. But was it Whoopy that
said that?
Speaker 4 (19:23):
It was Whoopy that said that, and for argument's sake,
the rest of the view did shortly thereafter correct her,
saying that she is a that doctor Jill is a
doctor of education. So then woop be backtracked.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
She did back track. Yeah, but the point being, the
reason we joke about this is because Whoopy did say that,
you know, doctor Jill Biden really ought to be, you know,
she'll be the surgeon general, which shows just how stupid
they are. Several of you have said this in the
text message. I'll just pick one twenty four oh nine. Michael,
if doctor Oz is unqualified because he's on TV, I
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would have to think all the ladies from the view
are unqualified to talk about it because they're on the TV.
Can't deny your logic, that's right, not at all. So
back to Sunny Houston. So Sonny's citing Ezra Cline who
is saying that dictators put clowns in to run their
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country because that's how they consolidate power, and I totally
disagree with that. Dictators like Vladimir Putin put In really
smart people who don't get me wrong, are loyal to
the dictator, but know how to run the bureaucracy so
that the dictator can get what the dictator wants. I'll
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never forget the first time I met Shoygo, who's Putin's
former defense minister, who's kind of disappeared by the way,
I freely admit I was intimidated. Here was this uh,
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gigantic mongrel that was just uh, he just had an
intimidating presence about him. And I knew that he was
at the top of the food chain with Vladimir Putin.
And so here we and the very first time we meet,
we meet out in a field somewhere in a giant,
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you know, field tent that they got set up as
kind of an op center. And I and I go
walking in, and of course I got my I got
my little security detail with me, I got my three
or four guys with me, and he's got a whole
army with him, which just in of itself is intimidating,
because if we're going to have a gunfight, my guess
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is I'm going to lose the gunfight. And my guess
is he's probably got a gun on him, and I don't,
just my detail does. But then he opens his mouth
and I realize he may look like mongrel off blazing saddles,
but this guy's sharpest attack. And now I've got to
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be I got to be on my toes to deal
with him, because he's looking at me and assessing me
at the same time I'm assessing him. We're mapping each
other and trying to figure out exactly how are we
going to come to an agreement, because that's what we
were doing. We were negotiating an agreement, a cooperative agreement
about what we're going to do in case there was, like,
you know, some terrorist attack in a in a third
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country into which we were both going to both countries
would respond to, or to a natural disaster in a
third country, and so they were fairly tense negotiations. So
that's why I totally disagree about Ezra Kline. Dictators put
loyalists who are smart, conniving, and cunning to go run
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their bureaucracies for them, Sonny continues, Well, hang on, a
turn is a cloak, it's a way of covering up.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
The fact that they are underestimated is a feature. The
loyalty that they have to the strong man is really.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
The thing, and so he is now the loyalties to
the strong man. Every president since George Washington has been
a strong man. They're the commander in chief. They're the
leader of the free world. They have vast amounts of power, authority,
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and probably even more important, influence all over the world.
They always pick people who even if they're even if
their doors turns Goodwin's team of rivals, as she described,
I think the Lincoln cabinet, even though they may be
(23:55):
a team of rivals, they nonetheless are loyal to the
commander in chief. So this is nothing new. This is
not earth shattering political science. This isn't some you know,
Oh my gosh, we've never thought about this before. This
is how it works, whether your commander in chief is
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duly elected by the people in a constitutional republic like ours,
or rises to power through a dictatorial means like Vladimir
Putin does in Russia.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
Hiring all of the are appointing all of these people
that are woefully inadequate, woefully mediocre, cannot do this job
because he wants to consolidate power as a fascist does.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
And now.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Wolfully mediocre, wolfully inadequate. Who Whether you like Matt Gates
or not, Matt Gates has been able to really take
on some of the establishment of both Republican and Democrat.
Some of the establishment policies and institutions within DC may
(25:05):
not like him, like I don't like him, but I
still admit that he's been able to take those those
entrenched powers and those entrenched bureaucracies on. Go back to
Dragon's point about Linda McMahon building up WWE into this
behemoth at the same time serving on the Connecticut Board
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of Education, I mean Connecticut, Delaware. I forget what it
is Connecticut, Connecticut, no small feat of a really important
position in every state of the Union. Pete Haggs's a
combat veteran or Sean Duffy a what six to eight
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term congressman, a former prosecutor? How tell me what they've done? Whoopie?
You know a comedian in the movies? Okay, well great,
it takes it takes them smarts to be a comedian
and it's got It takes them smarts to be, you know,
a a an Academy Award winning actress. But would you
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trust Whoopy to run hhs DLD. No, not at all.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
We need to be very clear eyed about and not
so much joke about these types of appointments because he
is doing this intentionally right in front of our faces.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
So yeah, he is. So what if Trump is trying
to implement the deal the Department of Government Deficiency, Well,
Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamire, they're not the only counter moonbats.
They're not the only they're not the only anti establishment people.
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They're not the only man of people to have ever
provided guidance on what an incoming Trump administration needs to
do to take a chainsaw in order to save America
from this bureaucratic tyranny, this administrative state that is regulating
all of our lives, and if that means you've got
to tear down some things and start over. We've talked
(27:15):
about that sort of thing for as long as I've
been on air, for the past seventeen almost twenty years now,
we've talked about some of these bureaucracies need to be
absolutely ripped, apart, destroyed, and either nothing put back in
their place because they're totally unnecessary, or a smaller, lean,
(27:37):
mean fighting machine to replace these behemoths that have taken
over almost every aspect of our lives. There are there
is a great barrier to this kind of radical change.
(27:57):
One is just aertia, just pure, unadulterated inertia. People just
they want change. Oh try. There's no doubt in my
mind that the people that voted for Trump want change
and they expect change. The real test becomes when he
actually starts doing it. But maybe we have a lesson
(28:23):
from someone that we've listened to before from a long
time ago. Let's listen to him after the break from
the grave, because he might be the original Doge, the
original Department of Government efficiency.
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Speaker 11 (29:37):
I believe Ezra Clent is referring to the Obama Biden
Harris administration where Obama put Joe Biden in and then
Joe Biden put Harris in, and all those other idiots
that they elected are they put in. I think that's
(30:00):
or he's referring to, Well, that was.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
A clown show, all right, that was a clown show.
So the Department of Government Efficiency DOGE. Why hasn't it
been done before? There's nothing new under the sun. The
Great Milton Friedman offers advice to Elon Musk.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
And the vake Ramaswamy, and have you give me a
thumbs up or thumbs down? Keep them or abolish them.
Department of Agriculture, abolish gone, Department of Commerce, abolish gone.
Department of Defense, keep keep it, Department of Education, abolish
gone Energy, abolish how accept as energy ties in with
(30:51):
the military, Well then we shove it under defense a
little bit. That handles the nuclear right, don't ought to
go on. Plutonia and so forth goes under defense. But
we abolish the rest of it.
Speaker 12 (30:58):
Health and human services, there is some there are There
is room for some public health activities to prevent the
contagion such a thing as, for example.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
So you keep the National Institutes of Health, say and no.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
No, no, those are mostly a research agencies.
Speaker 13 (31:17):
No, no, that's a question of whether the government should
be involved in financing research.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
And the answer is no.
Speaker 13 (31:24):
Well, that's a complicated that's a very complicated issue, and
it's not an easy answer with respect to that.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
We'll eliminate half of the Department of one half there
we go housing an urban development. Now, oh, I didn't
even pause over that. One Department of the Interior.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Oh well, but housing.
Speaker 13 (31:38):
An urban development has done an enormous amount of harm.
My god, if you think of the way in which
they've destroyed parts of cities under the rubric of really
eliminating slums. Jack, you know you remember that Martin Anderson
wrote a book on the Federal Bulldozer describing the effect
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of the urban development. There have been many more dwelling
units torn down in the in the in the name
of public housing that have been built.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Jack Kemp has proposed selling to the current inhabitants of
public housing their unit, their townhouse, their apartment for a
dollar apiece and just shifting the ownership.
Speaker 13 (32:22):
To getting rid of the Department of Housing and Urban Development.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
It would be worth doing that, all.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Right, done, that's gone, Department of the Interior, your beloved
National Park Service.
Speaker 13 (32:34):
Well, given the problem there is you first have to
sell off all the land that the government owns.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
But that's what you should do. It could be done.
Speaker 13 (32:44):
You should do that.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
There's no reagions government owned.
Speaker 13 (32:46):
The government now owns something like one third of all.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
The land in the country, and that's too much. Should
come down to zero.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Should go down, well, not entirely zero. They ought to
own the land on which government buildings are okay, terrific.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Department of Justice, Oh yeah, keep that, keep that with
labor no gone, state, keep keep it. Transportation gone gone.
It's the treasury there. You have to keep it to
collect taxes, all right, collect taxes through the treasury. Veterans affairs.
Speaker 13 (33:18):
You can regard the veteran affairs as a way of
paying essentially cavalryes for services of those who have been
in the armed force.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
But you ought to be able to get rid of it.
You should do it by day.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
It off off, day off, lump sums for that's right,
and just get rid of it. Okay, Milton Friedman, if
you are made dictator for one day the next day.
Speaker 8 (33:39):
That I want to know.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
No, I don't want to be made dictator.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
You wouldn't.
Speaker 13 (33:42):
I don't believe in dictators.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Okay, I believe we want.
Speaker 13 (33:45):
To bring about change by the good bye the agreement
for the citizens.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
I don't. I don't believe in.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Let me put it this way, then you can't persuade.
Speaker 13 (33:55):
If we can't persuade the public, so it's desirable to
do these things, we have no right to impose them,
even if we had the power.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
To do it. Now, think about that unless we can
persuade the citizens to do this, we really have no
right to do it, because I would be a dictator.
I mean, that's these are things that over time, progressive Marxists, Democrats, communists,
but I repeat myself, have imposed upon the American public.
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The American public needs to approve the elimination of all
of these things. My real fear is that when we
start doing this stuff, the howls and the screams and
the cries and the mashing of the teeth and the
ringing of the hands will be so overwhelming that it
will slow down the process. Now, the one thing that
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I disagree with from about Milton Freeman, which I find
is because I don't think i'd disagree about anything else.
I would eliminate the Department of Transportation, yes, but I
would not eliminate the FAA. You still need someone to
regulate or to control the airwaves, the flight patterns and
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all you know, the radars and the air traffic control system.
You still need ATC. So I would disagree with that.
But he makes a great point about it's going to
take public buy in to do this, and getting public
buy in.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
From fourteen departments down to.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Fundamental hunctions. What are its fundamental pumises? Preserve the piece,
defend the country all right.
Speaker 13 (35:37):
Provide a mechanism whereby individuals can adjudicate their dispute.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
That's a Joe Justice department.
Speaker 13 (35:43):
Department protect individuals from being.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
Happy streaming, Good Morning, Happy Thursday.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
One week until Turkey Day? Who it is? One week
Turkey Day? Turkey and dressing sounds good? The View Now,
I keep hearing the View is getting canceled. They're moving.
In fact, Ellen DeGeneres and her girlfriend or wife or
(00:55):
whatever she is, they've moved London permanently.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Day said I'm happy, I don't care, and it improved.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
It increased the average IQ of America by about four
points too. Remember the View once wanted doctor Jill Biden
to become the sergeant general.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
You're due whoop he did, whoop? He said it?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yes. Well now doctor mtt Oz, a renowned heart surgeon,
uh is apparently unqualified to be the director of Sinners
for Medicaid, Medicare ser Medicare and Medicaid Service whatever CMS whatever,
whatever stands for Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. I
think it is so here they were yesterday. But I
(01:41):
want to just go through it entirely once and then
let's be constructed. Ask you what, thank you surprised man?
Speaker 6 (01:51):
If you know Oz is a very well known heart services.
This is an administrative position. But because he's on television,
Trump picks pole who are on TVY. You know, they
might as well picked up to pimple popper. I mean,
the guy is qualified to do heart surgery, not necessarily
run Medicare. And so that's just you know, Trump, It
(02:12):
seems to me, with all of his choices, it seems
to me like he really is in the burning down mode.
Let's just destroy all these organizations and then start over again,
something like that's going on in his little brain.
Speaker 7 (02:23):
I agree with that. You know, I was reading an
op ed by Ezra Klein for the New York Times
and he said this. He said, you know, in agencies
they are trying to run, These people are inexperience they're ridiculous,
they're incompetent, they won't get anything done. They might even
fail to win confirmation in other countries. And at other
(02:44):
times when would be authoritarians try to consolidate their power,
they do so by placing fools and gestures into positions
of extraordinary power. And he goes on to say the
absurdity is a cloak, it's a way of covering up
the fact that they are underestimated is a feature. The
loyalty that they have to the strong man is really
(03:07):
the thing. And so he is hiring all of the
appointing all of these people that are woefully inadequate, woefully mediocre,
cannot do this job because he wants to consolidate power
as a fascist does. And we need to be very
clear eyed about and not so much joke about these
types of appointments, because he is doing this intentionally, right
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in front of our faces.
Speaker 8 (03:31):
So I'm honestly in wait and see mode. I'm kind
of eating my popcorn, and I've said.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
What i have to say about Donald Trump.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
You exactly.
Speaker 8 (03:39):
I said what I'm worried about about Donald Trump, and
I remain worried about the things that I said. But
he does have a right to pick who he wants
to doctor Oz listen, I wouldn't have been my choice,
but I think John Fetterman said it well. If doctor
Oz is about protecting and preserving Medicare and Medicaid, I'm
voting for the dude. It's an administrative job. He's going
to be surrounded by bureaucrats who know how to run
and manage those things. And on the Linda McMahon event,
(04:01):
I kind of have to defend her because she started
what was a regional business turn it into a multi national,
multi billion dollar business. She was then small Business administrator
in the former Trump administration. She'd serve in the Connecticut
school Board, and I know a lot of this for
only a two years.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I think.
Speaker 8 (04:17):
I know this panel doesn't agree with school choice, but
I strongly do. And elections have consequences. I actually, I'm
going to say it now and I'll correct myself if
I'm wrong. I don't think Donald Trump is just going
to abolish the Department of Education. I think he's going
to move to invest more in voucher systems, in education
savings plans. And I personally, one of the things I
agree on is I think school choice is important. I
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think that the money should follow the student. We also
need to pay teachers more. We also need to have
a GI bill for teachers. But I don't think your wealth,
your ZIP coach should determine your outcome. We talk on
the show all the time about education's the great equalizer.
If you have a four year degree, you live nine
years longer. In this country, that starts at pre K.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
That's starting.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Everybody doesn't go to collegebody.
Speaker 8 (05:00):
I think they need to, But I don't think we
should make kids be victims of schools that are falling behind.
And if she moves that direction, I'm willing to say, does.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Your brain hurt? There's a lot to unpack, So let's
go through some of it because there's some there's some
very salient points here that I want you to stop
and just consider for a moment. So let's go back
to the beginning.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
What are you surprised?
Speaker 7 (05:26):
Man?
Speaker 6 (05:27):
Doctor Oz is a very well known heart survices. This
is an administrative position. But because he's on television.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Oh, he's a very well qualified heart surgeon. This is
an administrative position. But because he's on television.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Trump picks people who are on tv.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Ah, So Trump just picks people who are on TV.
Why is doctor Ows on TV? He still does heart
surgeon heart surgeries. He does something that I think that
quite frankly, more people out of you know, I do it.
I'm I'm a lawyer by training. I'm a former undersecretary,
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and I'm on the radio, and I appear a lot
on television, and I do so because I have I
have a certain expertise. So am I disqualified because News
Nation and Newsmax and Fox News and Fox Business will
have me on to talk about particular things going on?
Does that disqualify me because I am on TV? Because
(06:36):
that's the point that Joey Behar is trying to make here. Now,
let's talk about her point about it's it's an administrator
a very well known hawk Shore.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
Yes, this is an administrative position.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
But do you not think that a medical doctor, forget
doctor oz, I would challenge you to go do this
with your own primary care physician. Go ask them about
Medicare and Medicaid. Go ask them about how reimbursement works.
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Go ask them how they get paid and how much
they get paid if their patient is a Medicare or
a Medicaid patient. Ask them about how much overhead they
have in their office solely to deal with the insurance company,
whether it be government insurance on the exchanges, or it
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happens to be Medicare and Medicaid. Ask your you know,
if you want to get an earfull, make sure you
got the time and the energy, because most doctors, if
you ask that question, are going to dump on you.
Because while they're busy trying to practice medicine, they're actually
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trying to you know, save people and get people healthier,
and take care of cure diseases and do all these
medical things. They're also over here running a business. And
whether they are a you know, whether they have a
practice that a sole practitioner, or they've got a practice
this scout five, ten, fifteen or twenty doctors in it,
(08:14):
or even if they work for a conglomerate as a doctor,
they still have to deal with all that administrative stuff.
Now they may not do it directly, but they have
staff to do it, and the staff has to make
sure that they're doing what the doctor wants. And you know,
the doctor's going to be asking, hey, I just performed
open heart surgery and I got twelve dollars ninety five
(08:35):
cents for it. Where's my reimbursement? Well, doctor, that's what medicares,
that's what they reimbursed you. You got twelve dollars ninety
five cents for that four and a half hour open
heart surgery. What how's that run around? They should represent
doctors in their business, not malpractice does's, but in their business,
so I know how they are when it comes they
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understand what's going on. They have to know what's going
on if they're going to be successful. I mean, yes,
they want to be successful in terms of the medical practice,
but they also want to be successful in terms of
their practice, the financially successful. So they'll belittling the fact that, oh,
(09:17):
he's on TV, so he must not be qualified. That
tells me she's the one that's unqualified. She's the one
that's the idiot. She's the one that doesn't understand how
he business works.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Let's not forget who's the one that brought him onto TV,
the beloved Oprah.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Oh that's right, I forgot. I totally forgot about that. Yes,
so Oprah, the big oh bod him onto TV. But
let's attack them because that's the way we attack Trump.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Listen, because he's on television Trump picks people who are
on TV.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
You know, they might as well picked out the pimple
pop up.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
I mean, the guy is qualified to do heart surgery,
not necessarily run medicare.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Let me just tell you this. To run any of
these organizations, you have to have an IQ above room temperature.
I mean, you've got to be smart. You have to
be a stute, you have to be a good manager.
You have to understand people, and you have to understand that, Okay,
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this is what the boss wants, which is always find
fascinating because I mean, you know what doctors are like.
I mean, lawyers aren't like this at all, but you know,
doctors saying that there are God's gift to mankind and
lawyers never think that, but doctors do. So doctors are
notoriously smart individuals, and they notoriously notoriously is not the
(10:55):
right word. Doctors always have to deal with other people,
whether it's the patients or their nursing staff, their insurance staff,
their front office staff, their schedulers, the pharmacists, everybody. They
have to deal with all of these people. So they
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have to have some management skills to do so. All
they're trying to do here is just integrate men at
OZ because oh, he's on TV, and Pete Haggeses happens
to be on TV. Linda McMahon happened to do something
that was on TV. Well, to which I say, BFD,
(11:43):
so what you're on TV? So does that disqualify you
from doing anything else? Well, in the case of these
five ladies, probably does, because I don't know if they've
got the brain cells to do anything.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Like the clips that they chose for Linda McMahon, they
chose all from the WWE universe is to where she's
in the ring, either smacking her daughter or smacking some
of the other wrestlers. Not anything you know, outside of
the character that is Lindammann that's in the ww universe.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Nothing to do with the fact that she served on
the Connecticut Board of Education, nothing to do with the
fact that she actually built that from a startup into
a behemoth, you know, platform, nothing to do with her
skills whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
And if you wanted to see that, that is posted
at Michael says go here dot com. If again, if
you want to torture yourself, it's there.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yes, But I'm going to continue to torture because because
there's more that they say that I think is worth
thinking about.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Oh that's just but you know, Trump, it seems to me,
with all of his choices, it seems to me like
he really is in the burning down mode.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
That's what we voted for. We want to burn down.
They have such a lack of self awareness, they have
such an inability to understand that, Yes, we voted because
we want to tear this down. We want to tear
down the cabal. We want to rip apart the cabal,
(13:10):
including the part that you're a part of. Joy behar. Yes,
we want to reduce the size of the federal government,
and that includes eliminating sun departments and agencies. If he
can pull it.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Off, let's just destroy all these organizations and then start
over again. Something like that's going on in his little brain.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Something like that, like, let's just destroy this and start
all over. Is that's what's going on in his little brain? Really,
because I think that's marvelous. I think that's wonderful. But
they're clueless about it, totally clueless that indeed, that's what
the American people voted for.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
I agree with that, you know. I was reading an
op ed by Ezra Klein.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
For the new boom. You know what's great about that?
Remember I've talked to you about how they live within
a bubble within a bubble. So Ezra Cline a columnist
for the New York Times. So here's Sonny Houston living
in New York, reading the New York Times and reading
a left wing, progressive Marxist columnist, Ezracline, who is a
(14:18):
good right Don't get me wrong. He's a good writer.
He can make it, he can make a strong argument.
But here she is, that's her bubble, and now she's
taking that little bubble. How many people in that audience,
unless it happens to be a New York audience, but
most of them come from out of town. How many
people in that audience even have a clue who, as
(14:38):
Recline is I would even ask in this audience other
than the fact you've heard me mention him before. How
many people in this audience actually read The New York
Times other than me? Because I have to for show prep.
Most people in this country don't read the New York Times.
But that's their bubble. And now they're taking that bubble,
and they're taking a megaphone and making whatever said by
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Ezra Klein and blasting that out to their clapping seals
that are brain dead people that are just listening to
these ditss talk about something that they know nothing about.
So it's a great example of how they're in a
bubble inside a bubble.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
New York Times and he said this, he said, you know,
in agencies they are trying to run, these people are inexperience,
They're ridiculous, they're incompetent. They won't get anything done. They
might even fail to win confirmation in other countries and
at other times, when would be authoritarians try to consolidate
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their power, they do so by placing fools and gestures
into positions of extraordinary power.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Actually, I disagree with that. If you're an authoritarian, you're
a tyrannical dictator. What do you do to control the bureaucracy?
You put really are technocrats in those positions so that
they can use the bureaucracy to further consolidate your power.
(16:12):
You don't put fools in, you don't put stupid people in.
You put the technocrats in. That's how you end up
with an administrative state. That's how Look, let me tell
you from personal experience in Russia, the people that I
dealt with in the bureaucracy in Russia amazingly smart people. Now,
(16:33):
why why would Putin appoint smart people to his cabinet,
to his different ministries. Why would he appoint smart people
and not a bunch of dufuses. Because the smart people
are going to be are going to have the intellectual
capacity and the skills, which I would say people's skills,
(16:56):
but they're not really people's skills. They're dictatorial skills to
do what Putin once done through the bureaucracy. So I
think Ezra Kleine's entirely wrong about that. He doesn't understand
how dictators work. I do, and I've dealt with the
political appointees of a dictator, Vladimir Putin, and I found
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them to be challenging, incredibly challenging, because they were smart.
They knew exactly what they were doing, and so I
had to be on my guard the entire time to
make certain that I wasn't being manipulated into doing what
they wanted to get done, as opposed to me getting
them to do what I wanted to get done. It
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was a clash of brain cells. So I think Ezra
Kline's wrong about that, but doesn't make a difference to
Sunny Houston because she just believes what Ezra Klein says
in the New York Times, because that's the bible of
the cabal. Oh, I'm not done hang time.
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Speaker 10 (18:59):
Michael, does not doctor Jill Biden have a doctor of education?
Clearly she's not qualified to be the surgeon general. I
think the voice, the voice the view, it's just scare bad.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
He must be new here. But was it Whoopy that
said that?
Speaker 4 (19:23):
It was Whoopy that said that, and for argument's sake,
the rest of the view did shortly thereafter correct her,
saying that she is a that doctor Jill is a
doctor of education. So then woop be backtracked.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
She did back track. Yeah, but the point being, the
reason we joke about this is because Whoopy did say that,
you know, doctor Jill Biden really ought to be, you know,
she'll be the surgeon general, which shows just how stupid
they are. Several of you have said this in the
text message. I'll just pick one twenty four oh nine. Michael,
if doctor Oz is unqualified because he's on TV, I
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would have to think all the ladies from the view
are unqualified to talk about it because they're on the TV.
Can't deny your logic, that's right, not at all. So
back to Sunny Houston. So Sonny's citing Ezra Cline who
is saying that dictators put clowns in to run their
(20:20):
country because that's how they consolidate power, and I totally
disagree with that. Dictators like Vladimir Putin put In really
smart people who don't get me wrong, are loyal to
the dictator, but know how to run the bureaucracy so
that the dictator can get what the dictator wants. I'll
(20:43):
never forget the first time I met Shoygo, who's Putin's
former defense minister, who's kind of disappeared by the way,
I freely admit I was intimidated. Here was this uh,
(21:04):
gigantic mongrel that was just uh, he just had an
intimidating presence about him. And I knew that he was
at the top of the food chain with Vladimir Putin.
And so here we and the very first time we meet,
we meet out in a field somewhere in a giant,
(21:26):
you know, field tent that they got set up as
kind of an op center. And I and I go
walking in, and of course I got my I got
my little security detail with me, I got my three
or four guys with me, and he's got a whole
army with him, which just in of itself is intimidating,
because if we're going to have a gunfight, my guess
(21:46):
is I'm going to lose the gunfight. And my guess
is he's probably got a gun on him, and I don't,
just my detail does. But then he opens his mouth
and I realize he may look like mongrel off blazing saddles,
but this guy's sharpest attack. And now I've got to
(22:08):
be I got to be on my toes to deal
with him, because he's looking at me and assessing me
at the same time I'm assessing him. We're mapping each
other and trying to figure out exactly how are we
going to come to an agreement, because that's what we
were doing. We were negotiating an agreement, a cooperative agreement
about what we're going to do in case there was, like,
you know, some terrorist attack in a in a third
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country into which we were both going to both countries
would respond to, or to a natural disaster in a
third country, and so they were fairly tense negotiations. So
that's why I totally disagree about Ezra Kline. Dictators put
loyalists who are smart, conniving, and cunning to go run
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their bureaucracies for them, Sonny continues, Well, hang on, a
turn is a cloak, it's a way of covering up.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
The fact that they are underestimated is a feature. The
loyalty that they have to the strong man is really.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
The thing, and so he is now the loyalties to
the strong man. Every president since George Washington has been
a strong man. They're the commander in chief. They're the
leader of the free world. They have vast amounts of power, authority,
(23:35):
and probably even more important, influence all over the world.
They always pick people who even if they're even if
their doors turns Goodwin's team of rivals, as she described,
I think the Lincoln cabinet, even though they may be
(23:55):
a team of rivals, they nonetheless are loyal to the
commander in chief. So this is nothing new. This is
not earth shattering political science. This isn't some you know,
Oh my gosh, we've never thought about this before. This
is how it works, whether your commander in chief is
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duly elected by the people in a constitutional republic like ours,
or rises to power through a dictatorial means like Vladimir
Putin does in Russia.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
Hiring all of the are appointing all of these people
that are woefully inadequate, woefully mediocre, cannot do this job
because he wants to consolidate power as a fascist does.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
And now.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Wolfully mediocre, wolfully inadequate. Who Whether you like Matt Gates
or not, Matt Gates has been able to really take
on some of the establishment of both Republican and Democrat.
Some of the establishment policies and institutions within DC may
(25:05):
not like him, like I don't like him, but I
still admit that he's been able to take those those
entrenched powers and those entrenched bureaucracies on. Go back to
Dragon's point about Linda McMahon building up WWE into this
behemoth at the same time serving on the Connecticut Board
(25:28):
of Education, I mean Connecticut, Delaware. I forget what it
is Connecticut, Connecticut, no small feat of a really important
position in every state of the Union. Pete Haggs's a
combat veteran or Sean Duffy a what six to eight
(25:49):
term congressman, a former prosecutor? How tell me what they've done? Whoopie?
You know a comedian in the movies? Okay, well great,
it takes it takes them smarts to be a comedian
and it's got It takes them smarts to be, you know,
a a an Academy Award winning actress. But would you
(26:13):
trust Whoopy to run hhs DLD. No, not at all.
Speaker 7 (26:19):
We need to be very clear eyed about and not
so much joke about these types of appointments because he
is doing this intentionally right in front of our faces.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
So yeah, he is. So what if Trump is trying
to implement the deal the Department of Government Deficiency, Well,
Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamire, they're not the only counter moonbats.
They're not the only they're not the only anti establishment people.
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They're not the only man of people to have ever
provided guidance on what an incoming Trump administration needs to
do to take a chainsaw in order to save America
from this bureaucratic tyranny, this administrative state that is regulating
all of our lives, and if that means you've got
to tear down some things and start over. We've talked
(27:15):
about that sort of thing for as long as I've
been on air, for the past seventeen almost twenty years now,
we've talked about some of these bureaucracies need to be
absolutely ripped, apart, destroyed, and either nothing put back in
their place because they're totally unnecessary, or a smaller, lean,
(27:37):
mean fighting machine to replace these behemoths that have taken
over almost every aspect of our lives. There are there
is a great barrier to this kind of radical change.
(27:57):
One is just aertia, just pure, unadulterated inertia. People just
they want change. Oh try. There's no doubt in my
mind that the people that voted for Trump want change
and they expect change. The real test becomes when he
actually starts doing it. But maybe we have a lesson
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from someone that we've listened to before from a long
time ago. Let's listen to him after the break from
the grave, because he might be the original Doge, the
original Department of Government efficiency.
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I believe Ezra Clent is referring to the Obama Biden
Harris administration where Obama put Joe Biden in and then
Joe Biden put Harris in, and all those other idiots
that they elected are they put in. I think that's
(30:00):
or he's referring to, Well, that was.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
A clown show, all right, that was a clown show.
So the Department of Government Efficiency DOGE. Why hasn't it
been done before? There's nothing new under the sun. The
Great Milton Friedman offers advice to Elon Musk.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
And the vake Ramaswamy, and have you give me a
thumbs up or thumbs down? Keep them or abolish them.
Department of Agriculture, abolish gone, Department of Commerce, abolish gone.
Department of Defense, keep keep it, Department of Education, abolish
gone Energy, abolish how accept as energy ties in with
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the military, Well then we shove it under defense a
little bit. That handles the nuclear right, don't ought to
go on. Plutonia and so forth goes under defense. But
we abolish the rest of it.
Speaker 12 (30:58):
Health and human services, there is some there are There
is room for some public health activities to prevent the
contagion such a thing as, for example.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
So you keep the National Institutes of Health, say and no.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
No, no, those are mostly a research agencies.
Speaker 13 (31:17):
No, no, that's a question of whether the government should
be involved in financing research.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
And the answer is no.
Speaker 13 (31:24):
Well, that's a complicated that's a very complicated issue, and
it's not an easy answer with respect to that.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
We'll eliminate half of the Department of one half there
we go housing an urban development. Now, oh, I didn't
even pause over that. One Department of the Interior.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Oh well, but housing.
Speaker 13 (31:38):
An urban development has done an enormous amount of harm.
My god, if you think of the way in which
they've destroyed parts of cities under the rubric of really
eliminating slums. Jack, you know you remember that Martin Anderson
wrote a book on the Federal Bulldozer describing the effect
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of the urban development. There have been many more dwelling
units torn down in the in the in the name
of public housing that have been built.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Jack Kemp has proposed selling to the current inhabitants of
public housing their unit, their townhouse, their apartment for a
dollar apiece and just shifting the ownership.
Speaker 13 (32:22):
To getting rid of the Department of Housing and Urban Development.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
It would be worth doing that, all.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Right, done, that's gone, Department of the Interior, your beloved
National Park Service.
Speaker 13 (32:34):
Well, given the problem there is you first have to
sell off all the land that the government owns.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
But that's what you should do. It could be done.
Speaker 13 (32:44):
You should do that.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
There's no reagions government owned.
Speaker 13 (32:46):
The government now owns something like one third of all.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
The land in the country, and that's too much. Should
come down to zero.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Should go down, well, not entirely zero. They ought to
own the land on which government buildings are okay, terrific.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Department of Justice, Oh yeah, keep that, keep that with
labor no gone, state, keep keep it. Transportation gone gone.
It's the treasury there. You have to keep it to
collect taxes, all right, collect taxes through the treasury. Veterans affairs.
Speaker 13 (33:18):
You can regard the veteran affairs as a way of
paying essentially cavalryes for services of those who have been
in the armed force.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
But you ought to be able to get rid of it.
You should do it by day.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
It off off, day off, lump sums for that's right,
and just get rid of it. Okay, Milton Friedman, if
you are made dictator for one day the next day.
Speaker 8 (33:39):
That I want to know.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
No, I don't want to be made dictator.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
You wouldn't.
Speaker 13 (33:42):
I don't believe in dictators.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Okay, I believe we want.
Speaker 13 (33:45):
To bring about change by the good bye the agreement
for the citizens.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
I don't. I don't believe in.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Let me put it this way, then you can't persuade.
Speaker 13 (33:55):
If we can't persuade the public, so it's desirable to
do these things, we have no right to impose them,
even if we had the power.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
To do it. Now, think about that unless we can
persuade the citizens to do this, we really have no
right to do it, because I would be a dictator.
I mean, that's these are things that over time, progressive Marxists, Democrats, communists,
but I repeat myself, have imposed upon the American public.
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The American public needs to approve the elimination of all
of these things. My real fear is that when we
start doing this stuff, the howls and the screams and
the cries and the mashing of the teeth and the
ringing of the hands will be so overwhelming that it
will slow down the process. Now, the one thing that
(34:46):
I disagree with from about Milton Freeman, which I find
is because I don't think i'd disagree about anything else.
I would eliminate the Department of Transportation, yes, but I
would not eliminate the FAA. You still need someone to
regulate or to control the airwaves, the flight patterns and
(35:09):
all you know, the radars and the air traffic control system.
You still need ATC. So I would disagree with that.
But he makes a great point about it's going to
take public buy in to do this, and getting public
buy in.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
From fourteen departments down to.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Fundamental hunctions. What are its fundamental pumises? Preserve the piece,
defend the country all right.
Speaker 13 (35:37):
Provide a mechanism whereby individuals can adjudicate their dispute.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
That's a Joe Justice department.
Speaker 13 (35:43):
Department protect individuals from being.
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