11-23-24 The Weekend Hour 2: Is Robert F Kennedy, Jr, that dangerous to American health?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tonight, Michael Brown joins me here the former FEMA director
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mentioned at the beginning of the last how or that
the real hard part, having now won the election, is

(01:06):
going to be governing, particularly with some of the things
that Trump wants to accomplish. I mean everything from keeping
the Trump tax cuts in place, which I certainly hope
they do, lowering the corporate tax rate to maybe and
this all be obviously a part of negotiations, but maybe
as low as fifteen percent. Think about what that would

(01:28):
do for the economy. First, that would mean that, or
should mean, depending what the corporations do, it would mean
that the amount that we spend on goods and services
from those companies, that price could actually go down, which

(01:49):
would obviously, you know, in terms of price inflation, would
be really good for us. That means that what little
dollars we have left in our pockets would go a
little bit further because the goods and services we buy
might cost less. But there's a there's there's a greater impact,
and I think the greater impact is the flow of
capital into this country, you know, if we want to

(02:13):
maintain being the world. You know, it's kind of interesting
because ironically, on a computer model in front of me
is it's opened up to the Drudge Report, and there's
a photo of Hi Jinping, the the dictator for life

(02:35):
of Communist China, of the People's Republic of China, and
under it says, China rise as global leader. Now I
haven't read the story. I might read the story later.
But China may be rising as a global leader, but
its economy is in the toilet and it's nowhere near

(02:56):
taking us over today. I emphasize today because unless we
straighten our act up, they could become the global leader,
and that would completely invert the world order right now,
So let's go back to corporate taxes for a moment.
If Trump and Congress, as I believe, they should lower

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the corporate tax rates to fifteen percent. Not only is
that good for you and me in terms of the
prices that we pay for the goods and services from
those companies, but what happens to capital around the world.
You know, there are sovereign wealth funds every country, I
shouldn't say every country. Most country has a sovereign wealth fund.

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And then every country has investors, small investors, large investors.
There are institutional investors all over the world, banks, hedge funds,
brokerage company, any number of vehicles by which companies invest

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in other companies. They all have capital. They all have capital,
and capital is always seeking, you know, like water seeks
its lowest level. Capital seeks its most efficient use. Capital
wants to grow. Capital is like a seed and that

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seed wants to It wants water and sunshine and air
so they can grow into the plant that it's meant
to be. Capital is meant to grow, So capital seeks
where it can get its greatest return. And if this country,
if this country were to lower the corporate tax rate

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to as low as fifteen percent, that would be I think,
I think that would be the lowest in the entire world,
which means when investors start looking for places to put
their capital, they're going to put it into American companies
because American companies, at a lower tax rate than any
other place in the world, has a greater chance at

(05:14):
succeeding and returning a profit back to shareholders because of
a lower tax rate. Now, obviously there are thousands of
other factors that go into a company's success, but taxes
is one of those factors. And if we have a
lower tax rate than anybody else in the world, that
capital around the world's going to flow into this country.

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That means more growth for us, That means lower inflation,
that means more innovation, more technological advances, and that means
that this country would grow and maintain our role in
the world as the world's strongest, greatest economy. The dollar
would retain its reserve currency status in the world, all
of which would maintain the American world order. That's the

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kind of thing that the Trump administration is focused on doing.
But it's not the only thing I want to talk about.
What I think is going to be one of the biggest,
if not most difficult things to do, and that is
to re establish public trust in the medical establishment, in

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big pharma and big food or big egg, however you
want to describe it. When Trump nominated Bobby Kennedy Junior
as Secretary of Health and Human Services, we were told
that there will be dire consequences for the state of
health and the state of health and the state of
science in America. Time magazine was just apoplectic. Oh my gosh,

(06:53):
the appointment of Bobby Kennedy Junior is going to have
dire I mean, dire consequences are the exact words they used.
Now why because they claim that Kennedy is a conspiracy
theorist who falsely stated that the government might have planned
the COVID nineteen pandemic. That you can find that over
at the bulwark, and the detrimental effects of his nomination

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will only get worse, they say. Some commentators argue that
of Trump named doctor j. Baldachar of Stanford to lead
the National Institutes of Health, which could happen. Bonachar's positions,
according to The Washington Post, alienated him from many public

(07:36):
health professionals, including Baucherar's own college campus. Well, the expert
class tells us that Trump's second term is likely to
cause widespread sickness and death. Oh my god, the plague
is about to come upon us. Why ask yourself why

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the media is trying to cram that idea down your
throat One guy Bobby Kennedy Junior, in charge of Next
to the Pentagon, one of the largest bureaucracies in the
entire government health and Human services. Well, because they say
that Trump is going to empower some of the worst
peddlers of anti science disinformation. Well, I find that kind

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of irony. I find that ironic because the very people
who claim that Bobby Kennedy Junior is one of the
worst peddlars of anti science disinformation are themselves misrepresenting some
of Kennedy's statements. What he actually said one time was
that he did not have evidence the government planned COVID nineteen. Rather,

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he suggested that the COVID restrictions could become authoritarian, even
if there were good intentions behind them. Well, duh, that's
obvious to any of us. I think it's incumbent upon
us to never stop reminding ourselves of what governments in

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this Yes, I care about the rest of the world,
but most importantly right now in this country. What did
they do? They picked winners and losers, and they told
the losers shut down your little dry cleaning store. Now
we know that's your livelihood. We know that you invested
in that, you probably have a bank loan, you probably

(09:36):
have rent for the place where you have your dry
cleaning and laundromat. But sucks to be you. We're gonna
shut you down because you're a loser. And we decided that,
and we're supposed to fear. Bobby Kennedy Junior. Hang tight,
because although some people may think COVID was planned, what

(09:59):
did Kennedy really say? Say? Next? Hey, welcome back to
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back to Kennedy. So Time Magazine and the Bulwark and Democrats,

(10:45):
I mean it seems and do you think they hate
they hate Bobby Kennedy because of his the falsehoods about
his vaccine stances, or do they hate Bobby Kennedy because
he's Trump? Which one do you think it is? Well?
I think it's a little bit of both, but I
think it's mostly because he jumped ship. He challenged Joe Biden,

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and then when they shut him out of the primaries,
he jumped ship, ran on his own. Then he and
Trump met became friends, and now he's going to be
in Trump's cabinet. And I do think he'll be confirmed.
It might be a battle, but I think he'll be
confirmed because, as I'll point out here in a minute,
Oh my gosh, are the special interests going to come

(11:32):
out trying to keep him from getting appointed. But go
back to this point about COVID. Although some people may
think that COVID indeed was planned, that's not what Kennedy said.
He said, quote, I can't tell you the answer to that.
I don't have enough evidence. A lot of it feels

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very planned to me. I don't know, but I will
tell you this. If you create these mechanisms for control,
they become weapons of obedience for authoritarian regimes, no matter
how beneficial or innocent the people who created them. There's

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a whole political science class right there in that one quote,
because that is exactly true, and in fact, that's what
usually happens. Is government comes in trying to be all beneficent.
They're gonna be all helpful. Well, we're gonna protect you,
we're gonna make you safe, like we talked about in

(12:36):
the first hour, we're gonna do everything we can to
protect you from risk. So we're gonna do these things
because they're good for you. And then that grows, and
it gets a little tighter and a little tighter and tighter,
and pretty soon they got that new surrounder neck, and
pretty soon you're living in tyranny. That's what's been happening

(12:57):
to this country off and on since at Row Wilson.
But when you try to paint everything that Kennedy believes
as fringe, well that's inaccurate. When you try to paint
everything that Kennedy believes as some sort of conspiracy theory,
that's inaccurate and misleading. Because many of Kennedy's positions, as

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well as doctor Bodicaria's, would actually bring our policies closer
to European policies. Now, I don't agree with a lot
of what goes on in Europe. We have an entirely
different DNA about freedom of speech, freedom of travel, about

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individual rights and individual liberties than Europe does. But Europe,
on the other hand, does things a little different when
it comes to protecting, say, their food supply, and I
don't think that it's necessarily over regulation. Now there are

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places in Europe where I think they are going bunkers,
but that's all based on a climate agenda. For example,
trying to ban the use of nitrogen it's fertilizer. Really,
why because you think that's going to save the planet.
Well that's not so. But as doctor Vinie Pissada the

(14:27):
University of California points out, this is a school in
San Francisco. A lot of nations in Europe allow the
sale of raw milk, they don't put fluoride in drinking water,
and they ban more pesticides and food additives than we
do in this country. This doctor at the University of California,
San Francisco points out that just because another nation does

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it differently does not mean they are correct. That's true,
but it does not mean it is not a crazy
idea to at least discuss it. See. I think this
is where we're going to have a real battle, and
that is can we even discuss these issues? Can we
even discuss how processed our food is? What happens to

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a can of line of beans from the time that
they get planted and then they get fertilized and pesticides,
and then they get harvested, and then they get processed
and they finally get to us fruit loops. I don't
know why, but fruit loops have made the news. How
do fruit loops end up being so much brighter and

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colorful than they are say in Europe? Well, because Europe
has more regulations on attities and what you can and
cannot do now. Don't get me wrong, I think Kennedy
holds some controversial opinions, and I think sometimes and I
can probably be accused of this, he might exaggerate the

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dangers associated with everything from I don't know wi fi
it's a Nika power. And he's been an environmental lawyer
that I've dealt with in the past, and his focus
was on identifying the health risks of pollution and environmental contamination. Well,
if all you're doing is if you're trying to identify

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risks of pollution or environmental contamination, is that necessarily bad?
Just trying to identify, Hey, is this hurting us or
harming us? You would think that that is a conversation
that the political community, the scientific community, and the private

(16:50):
citizens of this country would want to have, because if
indeed something that we're doing is harmful to the environment
and us, we ought to have a discussion about what
are the associated risks and how much risk are we
willing to accept. If the benefits outweigh the risks, then

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maybe we're willing to accept it. But if the risks
far outweigh the benefits, maybe we ought to have a
discussion about a public policy that limits the use of
those pesticides or whatever the contaminant might be. But I
think people want to focus on Bobby Kennedy as focused

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on risks alone instead of ever considering a risk analysis
or a risk benefit trade off. And that's where I
think science has lost its credibility in this country. So
what has Kennedy said that he does or does not
want to do? And how can that restore our trust

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in our healthcare system and in our scientific community. It's
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(18:35):
pause for a moment. So we're talking about the appointments
to HHS and perhaps to the NIH the National Institutes
of Health, doctor Bodichara and Bobby Kennedy Junior. The point
that I'm trying to drive home is these two appointments,

(18:58):
we'll start a national discussion. Now. I'm sure there are
particular policy positions that they will take, some of which
we will all agree with, some of which none of
us will agree with, and some of which will be
a mixture of both. Well, that's not unusual in any
cabinet appointment, and that's not unusual with any president. I mean,

(19:24):
if I dug far enough, I might be able to
find something I agree with Joe Biden on. I'm not
quite sure I could between now and the end of
the program, but if I had a few tequilas, I
might be able to come up with something. Just having
the conversation is more than we've done in the past.

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Go back to the whole COVID. This is why I
am fascinated how quickly the whole COVID narrative is completely
falling apart. Now. I knew back during those years that,
and I was given the opportunity to do so on
the flagship station right here at iHeart in Denver to

(20:10):
an hour every evening, come on air and swim upstream
and tell our audiences here that there's a whole other perspective,
there's another viewpoint, and what I think they're doing is
completely wrong, and hear all the reasons why. Kennedy, for example,

(20:33):
has repeatedly said that he doesn't want to ban vaccines,
and instead he takes issue with the liability shield that
vaccine makers have in this country. Why do we offer
product liability for a vaccine maker. There's no liability for

(20:54):
medical malpractice and almost any other area of medicine. Why here?
There's no product liability immunity for automobile manufacturers. Why here?
And Europe has weaker protections for vaccine manufacturers, actually allowing

(21:15):
plainifts to more easily bring cases against them. And it's
also worth noting that several European countries, and Sweden's the
best example of all, make all vaccinations voluntary and they
actually have fewer doses on their childhood vaccination schedules than
we do in this country, which still recommends the COVID vaccine,

(21:36):
which is not a vaccine, and boosters for all children
ages six months in older. I wouldn't give my grandchildren
any of these and as far as doctor Bodchari is concerned,
his COVID policies resemble approaches adopted in Sweden and other
Scandinavian countries, keeping schools open, not masking children, not mandating

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COVID vaccines for young kids. All that should suggest that
there is a reasonable policy debate to be had, and
that those debates are not right wing. They're not anti science,
They're not based purely on disinformation. They're conversations that in
any country, in any society that values scientific debate, because

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science is not settled, it's always subject to experimentation, it's
always subject to testing of thesis and hypotheses. Why why
do we shut it down when it comes to COVID,
Why do we shut it down when it comes to
processed food or cesticides or anything else. The so called

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expert class in this country, and of course the cabal
rent large, they have zero standing to make dramatic accusations
about threats to health because over the past several years
we have watched both the cabal and their minions in
public health and in the medical establishment, with the full
support of the dominant media, promote highly dangerous and unscientific

(23:12):
policies that have harmed vulnerable groups and costs millions of lives.
So forget Kennedy's kookie ideas. You know, I might have
some cookie ideas. You probably have some cookie ideas too.
Let's think about. Let me give you an example according

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to the latest and these are non exhausting, but from
figures from a website do no harm. Between twenty nineteen
and twenty twenty three, surgeon and this surgeons in this
country performed almost six thousand gender affirming or sex change
surgeries on minors, on my on children, six thousand mutilations

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of children, and they wrote almost nine thousand prescriptions for
puberty blockers and cross sex hormones for pediatric patients for children. Now,
those actions, the Democrat Party fully embraces those actions. But

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do journalists even question it. No, and that's because journalism
is dead in this country. But at least there are
outlets like on this program and other outlets that at
least question why are we doing this to kids? The
problem is public health institutions completely abandoned science in order

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to promote COVID restrictions. Do you remember the American Academy
of Pediatrics. They wanted to I wanted schools to reopen
in July of twenty as early as July of twenty twenty,
and then suddenly, without any warning, they reversed their decision.
Why because Trump cited their recommendation when he said that

(25:15):
schools ought to open. And they're so political that they
couldn't be seen agreeing with Donald Trump, So they reversed
their own position on reopening schools in July of twenty twenty.
So why the hell would you trust anything that the
American Academy of Pediatrics claims when they're willing to change
a policy position based on the fact that a guy

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that they hate said, oh, look, all these pediatricians over
here recommend reopening schools. Oh well, since you recommend it,
since you're going to quote us, we're not going to
recommend it. That's how crazy the world's become. Remember Rachelle Wilensky,
she was the director of the CDC. Randy Winingarten the

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union boss of the American Federation of Teachers. Remember they
had all these the CDC had all these restrictive school
reopening plans that wasn't based on data, that was based
on input from the teacher unions. So the unions drove
health policy as opposed to scientific inquiry, as opposed to

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scientific debate. The Unions drove that decision without any good evidence,
and I would say without any evidence. They kept schools
closed from early a year. And now even the New
York Times, which at the time fully supported that. Now
the New York Times comes out and says, oh, yeah,
you know what, that was horrible on children. We set

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children back, you know, generations, because we deprived them of education.
All these government agencies and media they're they're they're actually
enabling the addiction crisis. One hundred thousand people a year
die from drug addictions. FDA, which Kennedy wants to reform,

(27:13):
it played it. You know, go watch the movie about
the Soccer family. The FDA actually played a major role
in driving the opioid epidemic because of regulatory failures and
conflicts of interest. Just cleaning this little area of government

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up will have amazing consequences on public health, gender, COVID addiction,
all of these different ideas. There's just an intolerance of descent.
There is an attitude of of elitism, and that intolerance
of descent, and the elitism explains a lot of the

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so called expert class and journalists willingness to go along
with all this pseudoscience because they shun ban and bury
anybody that descents or anybody that's an outsider. I thought
we were a free and open country that relish debate.

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So what do we do? It's the weekend with Michael Brown.
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The totalitarianism of modern society, I think causes experts elite us,
the cabal, if you will, of the manager aerial class

(29:00):
that you know, the technocrats that tend to control our lives.
It causes them to lie to us. I know you're shocked, right,
they're lying to us. They might believe scientific data backed
up they're preferred policies, but they're often unaware of what

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the data actually reveal. And I would add too that
oftentimes they don't care what the data reveals the problem
is when you and I they are not elitists, We're
not the technocrats we're not the bureaucracy. But when we
start to ask questions, it exposed the true believers, those technocrats,

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those elitists, It exposes their ignorance and faith in their dogma,
and then it causes them to feel unsettled and they
get defensive, and then they they just clan, they just
clam down harder on us. So underneath all the various
scientific and medical practices of today are actually a set
of ideologies. You would think that if I say that

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under scientific and medical practices, you would think that that's
based on data driven analysis, on testing of hypotheses, not
on ideologies or quasi religious superstitions. But that's that's what

(30:30):
it's based on today. Scientific authority, the cabal itself, they
can't see this because their own ideology makes them incapable
of self reflection, and it makes them incapable of analyzing
their own beliefs, their own suppositions. You know, we are,

(30:53):
I think all of us in this audience. I think
we constantly question, not just our own beliefs. Don't you
often question, like, Okay, why why do I believe certain
things about economics? Why do I believe certain things about
social constructs? Why do I believe certain things about political science.

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Why do I believe certain things about medicine or health
or anything else? Why do I believe certain things about
the climate. Well, I know, for me personally, I think
because of my environment and my education, my upbringing, all
of that caused me to question authority. It caused me

(31:35):
to be a critical thinker. It caused me to have
this lawyer brain that I have that thinks, Okay, there's
always something else. You're not telling me everything, or why
are you telling me this? I you know, my family
gets mad at me sometimes. Dad stop costs examining us. Okay, well,

(31:55):
then just tell me the truth. I don't want to
tell you the truth that I don't want to tell
you the truth. They just not my kids. I'm using them.
I'm using the pronoun in the wrong place. The elitists,
they don't tolerate doubt. They just demand obedience, and they

(32:16):
vilify any of us that are non compliant, and particularly
non compliant by questioning them. And wasn't that evident during COVID.
Don't don't ever forget that. The expert class and their
revulsion at people like Bobby Kennedy Junior or doctor Batachara

(32:37):
is driven by their own insecurity and their own desperation.
They don't want us to change. They want to remain
in charge. And if we start questioning just things like, Okay,
why are we eating all this processed food? Why are
we doing all these things? All these things? You know,
the one the one that I laugh Oftenti've because I

(33:00):
see the photo of it was Lit's see, you had
you had Donald Trump. Uh, who else was in that photo?
You had Bobby Kennedy Junior. He had Donald Trump Junior. Oh,
elon musk, and they're all eating McDonald's. And I just
found the photo that they were. They were on their

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way to Madison Square Garden, an they were on their
way back from Madison Square Garden and they're all eating
McDonald's on Trump Force one. And I'm laughing at that photo.
But then I stopped laughing because I think it was
Bobby Kennedy Junior who said, you know the problem with
McDonald's fries is not that you have French fries, but

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they're now fried in seed oils as opposed to beef tallow,
as opposed to lard. Who would have ever thought anybody
would have said that? Because we've just been taught that
Oh they're okay, just eat them, questioning and being open

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minded about oh there might be a different way, or
maybe an old way is different. I told I told
my local audience this week about a video that I
saw in which a food expert was talking. He was
in a grocery store and he was pointing out the
difference between a tub of butter spread, that's what it
was called, butter spread, labeled as organic, non GMO, all

(34:28):
these growing, wonderful things that to an ignorant purchaser would think, oh,
this is all wonderful versus just a stick of butter,
of real butter, and the ingredients of the butter spread,
if you could even read the fine print, was like
reading the terms of service that you might get, or

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all the warnings on the crimpsheet that you get on
a bottle of medicine versus the ingredients of butter, which
was butter, just butter, milk and cream butter. That was it.
But we're all driven to the pretty product that was
more expensive because of all the fancy labels on it. Well,

(35:13):
that's a regulatory scheme, and that's a regulation developed by
the food processors so that they can put those labels
on there to make it attractive to an ignorant purchaser
to buy that, thinking that it's better for them than
just buying butter. We've got so much to learn, We've

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got so many ways to change our thinking. And I
think that's why people are fearful of Bobby Kennedy Jr.
He asks questions, or doctor doctor J. Bodicara, who says,
wait a minute, I don't think there's any scientific basis
for these COVID policies. I think we ought to question them.

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They fear that, and I think that's the battle we're
going to face in this starting on January. Well, when
I have to wait till January twentieth, it's already started.
But once they're in position and they actually have the
political power and the authority to start asking questions and
making changes and going to Congress and saying, hey, we're

(36:21):
going to we're going to disband all of these regulations.
Then we're going to read which they can now do
under the Chevron Supreme Court case. Oh my gosh, are
we in for some fun times and probably better lifestyles.
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