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November 26, 2024 • 37 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To night, Michael Brown joins me. Here's the former director
show host, Michael Brown.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Brownie, No Brownie, you're doing a hair of a job
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(01:05):
welcome our guest commentator, Dragon so.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Much.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
Special Counsel Jack Smith is seeking to dismiss, dismiss the
Trump election interference case in Washington DC. We should note
that this was expected. We've been reporting for a few
weeks now that this would happen, since the dog cannot
prosecute a sitting president. Today this news brings us one

(01:33):
step closer to this case formally being dropped. The judge
is going to need approval for this before anything is
officially dismissed, as David's reporting, and that could come as
soon as today.

Speaker 6 (01:45):
Every one of these fake cases is Bush, every saga whatever.

Speaker 7 (01:54):
Terrible.

Speaker 8 (01:56):
After almost two years of this Jack Smith saga, things
seemed to be ending for him. We just need the
judge to sign off on it. After thousands of pages
and hundreds of hours of interviews, it comes down to
just six pages. Jack Smith the Special Council asking Judge
Tanya Chutkin to dismiss this superseding indictment. This is the

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election interference case in Washington, d C.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Where Donald Trump.

Speaker 8 (02:21):
Was charged with trying to overturn the results of the
twenty twenty presidential election. Ultimately, Smith says that DOJ does
not prosecute sitting presidents this never went to trial. It
was supposed to go to trial earlier this year. That
never happened. So he's asking to dismiss this case. Separately,
We're waiting to see if and how he's asking to

(02:44):
move forward in the document's case in Florida. Now, you
may say that case was dismissed the summer, and that's true,
it was dismissed this summer. However, Jack Smith at the
time he didn't know Donald Trump was going to win,
and he filed in appeal with the Eleventh Circuit Court
of Appeals in Atlanta. We're told that he's also going
to be filing something soon winding down that case as well.

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So as of now, these cases are not officially dropped yet,
but Smith is asking Judge Chuckkin, who's expected to move
along with it, and say, okay, we're going to drop
this case because we cannot prosecute a sitting president separately.
If I may add, President elect Trump said that he

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would fire Jack Smith within quote two seconds of taking office.
It doesn't appear that the president's elect will even have
the opportunity to do that because we've been reporting for
several weeks now that Jack Smith will be gone. At
that point on January twentieth, at noon, he will have
stepped down. So at some point over the next several
weeks he's going to step down. They're going to close

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up the Special Council office, and this case will not
go to trials. So while it was expected, it's certainly
a big deal to see that Special Counsel Jack Smith,
who's been a thorn in the side of Donald Trump
for over two years, is officially asking a judge to
drop his case.

Speaker 9 (04:03):
You can't just interfere with an election like this, and
then when the people put an end to what you're doing,
say okay, fine, no big deal, I'm going to resign.
See you later.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Back to the Hague.

Speaker 9 (04:12):
No, look at all the time this took from President Trump.
Look at all the money, our money that was spent,
maybe one hundred million dollars. Look at the damage that
was done to the legal process, to the public's faith
in the justice system.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Look out was politicized.

Speaker 9 (04:26):
And still there had been rulings by the Court that
the Supreme Court shoudn't even had to have getten involved
in gotten involved in. And then you see chunkin her rulings.
She'd been over backwards almost right up to the end.
She twisted the rules of a criminal procedure to accommodate
the government. There was a lot done here, the abuse
of power with the grand jury, the use of the

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end round obstruction law, the violation of immunity.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
They were trampling all over.

Speaker 9 (04:52):
The constitution to try and get their man as they
were hunting them down.

Speaker 10 (04:56):
You can't just.

Speaker 9 (04:57):
Let this pass because it'll happen again. And this is
my point with the Manhattan case. Do he get into
the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court will pull an end
to it. Even if Marshawn eventually rules the right way
on December ninth or tenth, or fifteenth, or whatever he does,
there's been damage.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Done, absolutely correct, Ryan schuling with you. The B team intact.
Jesse Thomas on the other side of the glass. He's
in for Dragon, I'm in for Brown. Don't blame us,
blame the guys that are in the country club right now.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
It's those two.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
But you still context the program as we hone in
on Thanksgiving here our thanks to John Caldera for filling
in yesterday. And you could send those texts along to
the special situation without Michael Brown text line thirty three
one to oh three, and I wanted to begin with
that montage today to bring us into the conversation because

(05:46):
Mark Levin, in my mind, is the greatest constitutional law
expert in the country, and he is in same a
kind of league as Michael Brown himself. And so what
you hear from Brown in that analysis, because he's not
here to provide it, I thought Mark Levin would be
the best substitute, not yours, truly, and he's absolutely right.

(06:08):
Now we'll get into the layers as to why he's
right over these next few minutes, and again inviting your text,
your feedback, and your.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Talkbacks as well.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
You can press that little red microphone and Jesse's going
to do his level best on the other side of
the glass to get those on the air as we
come back from breaks. A lot in store over these
next four hours. Valdemar Archiletta will be joining me as
well to talk about a potential recall effort of Mayor
Mike Johnston.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
There's a lot going on.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
On that front as that story has gone national, Mayor
Johnston promising along with fifty thousand Denver Rights, Denver Police
Hyland Moms standing at the border standing in the way
of ICE agents coming in to deport criminal illegal aliens.
It's insane and Valdemar will have more to say about

(06:55):
that also coming up later on in the program. If
you stick and sty we invite you to do so.
We'll have a cameo from Leland Conway, formerly of these airwaves,
and I know that Michael had a special nickname or
five for him. I like Conway Twitty personally love that one.
But he had a chance to sit down now with

(07:16):
the COGO of San Diego, California, with the vice President
of Border Patrol and the council there, Art del Quato,
about the Denver situation. We'll get to a clip of
that in just a moment to kind of promote the
interview coming up in the second hour.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
We'll also be talking to Edward E. Bartlett.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
He's the president of DAVA DAVIA and that's a domestic
abuse and violence International alliance, and the reason that he
will be joining will be to talk about the fall
of Kamala Harris and the global rise of toxic feminism
not toxic masculinity.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Why did Kamala Harris lose?

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Why did the Democrats get swept out of Congress with
their majority in the Senate and the Republican's majority in
the House holding is there a cultural shift in America?
What is causing it? What is the driving force behind it?
And he will join us. Coming up in the second hour,
a third hour rather eight o'clock hour, Edward Bartlett, and

(08:15):
then one of my favorite guests, Stephen L.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Miller.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
He has read steeze on X formerly known as Twitter
and the host of the Versus Media podcast. And what
that literally means is he takes on the media and
all the silly reactions that we're seeing from the mainstream,
total lack of self awareness. Some of them are getting it,
others not so much. Where is it going from here?
After Donald Trump's victory? Can they cope? Can they see?

(08:41):
Can they do either? Are they going to seize like
they always accused Republicans of doing? Are they going to
pounce like they always accused Republicans of doing? Talk to
Red Steez Stephen L. Miller, he's a resident of Colorado
by the way, coming up in our nine o'clock hour.
And then finally to close out, got some holiday music
for you, Gary ho ho Hoey with his rock and

(09:03):
holiday tour and we're working on the technology of the
connection there so we can get the best sound and
get you ready geared up for this holiday weekend. You know,
you see all of these Christmas ads already, and it
never used to be this way. I think, Jesse, you
can kind of join in on this. Black Friday was

(09:24):
the launch of the Christmas season, and then okay, all
bets are off. Here come the holiday shopping ads. Everything
is every person for themselves, you know, going into the
stores like five am, trampling people, people dying, people going
to the hospital. But now, I mean, when was the
first by holiday ad? I mean, like Christmas season that

(09:45):
sort of thing. What's the first ad that you saw
this year?

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Oh man, before Halloween, that's what I was thinking, like
mid October probably, I want to say, yeah, it was
wild because it stood out for that reason, right exactly.
It's like, let us have Halloween first and Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving,
man gets just bypassed every year.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Why does Thanksgiving get no love? I don't know. Is
it the most underrated holiday? I think so. I believe
it is. Yep.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
It's the best food. I mean, people are always focused
is about the food. And if there's one thing I
know that Jesse and I here in common.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
And you a lyon.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
It's a love of food, of good food. He would
join me throughout the baseball seas. Okay, where'd you go
Saint Louis?

Speaker 1 (10:23):
All right?

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Did you go to the hill formerly known as well?
We can't say it in the air, I don't think anymore,
but Italian food? Yes, there just things of that nature.
So what are your Thanksgiving?

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Anything?

Speaker 2 (10:35):
If you if your family knows what you're doing and
what they're doing, a Thanksgiving is awesome. I see a
lot of posts recently that turkey's overrated. It's because you
don't know what you're doing, You know what I mean?
If you've got people that can throw down in the kitchen,
Thanksgiving is awesome.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
How does your family or you yourself? How do you
prepare the turkey? Well, so I don't personally do it.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
That usually went to my father, and now that he's gone,
it is my brother in law's responsibilit and he does
some weirdness. He kind of deconstructs it, and he kind
of smokes the breast and then he cone fees the
dark meat and like duckfat and serves it separately.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Man sounds good, and then he makes a stuffy not
a stuffing, it's a dressing with like a spicy breakfast
sausage and it's incredible.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
It's super good. That sounds really good. Yeah, I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Well, this is kind of leading us into our Wednesday discussion.
I'll be here tomorrow as well, a lot more Thanksgiving focus.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
There.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
My good friend Courtney Odell, she's a food and travel
blogger for Sweet Seas Designs. You know, we're gonna put
things off till the last minute. Some of these things
could be the desserts could be some of the sides.
You're gonna need ideas. You're gonna need them to be
affordable and easy to make. And she's got both of
those bases covered. And she'll join us at eight thirty
three in the morning tomorrow to give you all of

(11:51):
those travel tips and if you're going elsewhere for the holidays,
what you can bring. You know, you show up and
you're on the road and you're like, I can't do
it anything, but yes you can. And I've had this
experience many times, won't have it this year, but you know,
going home to Michigan for Thanksgiving, it's like you know,
my sister and I scramble to try to bring something,
and what are some of those things that you can get,

(12:12):
especially you know, you wait till that Wednesday before and
now you're dealing with a lot of drama and traffic
and people who are angry and on edge. Got to
dodge those, got to find a way to navigate those,
and Courtney O Dell will do just that. And then
probably the thing I'm looking the most forward to tomorrow
nine o'clock am hour, Kristen Toto will be in studio

(12:35):
for the entire hour, and he, of course is the
host of the Hollywood and Total podcast. The website used
to do a regular segment on this program, and we're
going back quite a while now pre covid. For sure,
everything was pre covid, but a full hour Thanksgiving preview
of all things binge worthy on the streaming services over
the weekend. You know, maybe you're trapped with family, what

(12:55):
are you going to do? We you can watch football,
That's what Jesse and I are going to do. But
what if you're with people hate football and you got
to kind of you know, balance the ledgers, what's attainable?

Speaker 1 (13:05):
What is sustainable for family? Harmony.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
He's gonna have some suggestions along those lines. Also, it
used to be again going back in the time machine
a little bit for a gen xer in yours truly,
that Thanksgiving weekend, Black Friday, in particular, a lot of
movies would open in theaters yep, theaters and on TV
as well.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
There's always an Indiana Jones marathon on if you look
hard enough on cable, and that's one of my favorite
things to do in between football games and hours.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Very good.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
And if you're going to the theater as a family,
you want to try to extend that tradition. A Christian's
going to have some suggestions for you over this four
day holiday weekend. And of course, all time classics that
are worth rewatching spoiler alert yes, planes, trains, and automobiles
will be included. To me, the all time greatest Thanksgiving movie.

(13:53):
And that's the thing. We don't want to hopscotch over Thanksgiving.
This is important holiday and in many ways, I think
again it's it brings people together in a way that
Christmas is different.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Thanksgivings.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
It's about the family, it's about the meal, it's about
the food, and we're gonna try to celebrate that and
single it out and that'll be Christian Toto tomorrow during
our final hour, sending you into your holiday. If you're
not ready by then, I don't know what more we
can do for you. Jesse and I are doing again
all that we can send those texts along, got all right,
several coming in and of course they have the snark

(14:27):
in sarcasm you would expect from Brownie's audience thirty three
one to oh three Alexa, Well, well, well look who
the cat dragged in almost literally, that's true. On the
other hand, this one super She glad to hear your voice.
Thanks for filling in for Brownie. You're welcome, and most
of all, Brownie's welcome. You know, he gets this whole
week off, gets to kind of go into La la

(14:50):
land of the undisclosed location, have his fun. You get
get into the tequila early and again you're welcome for that.
Let me see Ryan. The mental eunuch. Mike Johnston fails
to realize that the overwhelming majority of DPD officers and
detectives would gladly arrest him and turn him over to
the Feds for prosecution. That from Goober forty six ninety five,

(15:15):
I would like to hear from Denver PED officers. If
you're out there and you're listening and you want to
go off the record, you want to be anonymous, I
will respect that if it gets to the core of
what your honest, visceral response is to him calling on
Denver PED to guard the borders of Denver and Denver
County against ice officers, And just think about how irresponsible

(15:39):
that comment is and what that poor tends, what that
means in reality, in practice, as there is going to
be a showdown between local and perhaps state law enforcement
if Governor Polos gets involved and the FEDS coming in
to do their jobs enforce immigration law, apprehend those who
are here illegally, particularly and specifically those who have committed crimes,

(16:04):
criminal illegal aliens. I just don't know how you get
around this. And I want to get to the sound
bite previewing the full interview that I'll be featuring here
on behalf of my good friend Leland Conway, and it's
Art del Cuato. He is the vice president of the
Border Patrol Council. And it is just mystifying because right
after Mike Johnson makes these irresponsible remarks about comparing Denver

(16:27):
to Tienamen Square in an interview with Denver Right, and
then he walks those back with Mark Salinger and nine News.
This happens in Jefferson County. A criminal illegal alien from
Venezuela who slipped through the cracks at the border, was
then released into the country. And guess where he arrived at.

(16:49):
Right here in Denver proper. Then he's housed with an
employer and there's more to that story that we don't
know yet, and while being housed with said employer, proceeds
to rape allegedly that employer's fourteen year old daughter. This
is Leland asking Art del Cuato about that. The mayor

(17:10):
say of Denver, Colorado, who is saying, I and fifty
thousand other Denver rights will meet the border patrol at
the edge of Denver County and we will physically stop
the border patrol from coming into our city. Now, this
was on the same day that news broke that an
illegal immigrant from Venezuela was being charged with raping the

(17:35):
teenage daughter of the person who owned the house that
he was staying with.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
So it's like, wait a minute, are you going to
try it? We're not calling all.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Immigrants criminals, but you're going to stop the border patrol
from deporting people that are committing crimes like that?

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Does that make any sense? What do you make of that?

Speaker 11 (17:50):
I mean, it's crazy to hear this because what are
they actually saying. They're saying, we're not going to allow
law and order in our communities.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
That's the first thing they're saying.

Speaker 11 (18:00):
Second of other admitting that they're going to pretty much
help those that are breaking the law. And third, they're
sending a message to the world that it's okay to
go and move to those communities if you, you know,
want to be a criminal and not want to be
you know, brought to the hands of justice. So that's
that's just insane that somebody would say that.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Look, I don't care if.

Speaker 11 (18:21):
You're on the right side of the isle or the
left side of the island. Who wants crime in their community?
Right like that? That just makes no sense. So I
think it's just horrible that they're saying that that's borderline
treason not just to America, but borderline treason to their
communities as well.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Have that complete interview coming up for you an hour
number two. Here's Tom Homan about Denver's mayor Mike Johnston.

Speaker 12 (18:46):
Tom, you heard this mayor out there in Colorado. I
want to get your reaction to it, and I want
you to be clear about who has jurisdiction, the federal
government or state and local governments. And if you're a
sanctuary state or city, are you breaking the law?

Speaker 7 (19:01):
Absolutely breaking law? Oh I do. Look at Arizona versus
us US. See he's breaking law. But look me and
the Denver mayor. We agree on one thing. He's willing
to go to jail. I'm willing to put him in jail.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Tom Holman not pulling any punches. And as Dan Bongino says,
qut Sea time is over. But Mike Johnston is very
much commute, committed to qt SA time and we'll talk
more about him with Valdemar Archilettam coming up next to
he as the president of the log Cabin Republicans and
he's exploring the gathering of signatures to potentially recall Mayor

(19:35):
Mike Johnston back with more the situation without Michael brownlaw.

Speaker 13 (19:42):
With the strength to care and you cast your fish
and you know you can save.

Speaker 14 (19:54):
When you but you don't hear anti gay stuff from
Donald Trump.

Speaker 7 (19:59):
You don't and Donald Trump loves the gays.

Speaker 10 (20:03):
He is the first president to go into office who fully.

Speaker 7 (20:06):
Accepted same sex marriage.

Speaker 10 (20:08):
He's the first president to go into office who waived
a rainbow flag on his campaign. Log Cabin Republicans nationally
have had multiple fundraisers at mar A Lago, where Donald
Trump himself attended, and Malania Trump this year, the very
first thing she has done was a fundraiser for log
Cabin Republicans. So Donald Trump himself is very welcoming of

(20:33):
the LGBT community.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Not sure that Kyle Clark, Comrade Kyle of nine News
was expecting that answer, but Valdemar had the receipts and
he came to that sit down interview with them in hand,
and he joins me, you know, we're looking forward to Thanksgiving.
Valdimore Archiletta. You can follow him on X at Archiletta
the number four coo. That's arch U l e t

(20:55):
a number four coo on the X. Valdemar, welcome back.

Speaker 10 (20:59):
Man, Thanks for having me. You always play like sad
slow Mariah songs.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
No, but I.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Well, I'm happy about that that you ran. That is
a good song though I love it. It is and
you ran I think the best campaign that's ever been
run against Diana to get in an impossible district.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
It really was. But you gained traction. Thank you you did.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
You gained also the attention of the media with the
likes of Kyle Clark, et cetera. You had a platform
for the issues that were important to you. I thought
you did extremely well in the one debate that you
had with her. She at least granted you that opportunity.
I guess from on high, But how do you feel
about the campaign that you ran?

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Looking back on it now.

Speaker 7 (21:43):
It was good.

Speaker 10 (21:44):
I understood the challenge we faced and what the reality
of the most likely outcome would be, so I'm not,
you know, surprised by that, but it was It was
positive and that we were able to reach out to
the community. We had a platform where we were able
to speak about different topics and a lot of things
came up through the campaign that I wasn't fully expecting,

(22:07):
and it was good that we were there to be
able to talk about it, kind of like what happened
there with Kyle Clark when situations came up in June
and then we were able to.

Speaker 7 (22:14):
Talk to the media about it. And I'm go out and.

Speaker 10 (22:17):
Talk to the public about it, So it was it
was a positive thing and something that we're going to
build on and looking forward.

Speaker 7 (22:25):
You know, I'm not going away.

Speaker 10 (22:26):
There's a lot of things I want to do, and
we're exactly I'm going to take this platform and what
I'm going to do with it, I'm still kind of
working on. But some things have popped up recently that
you know, now we get to talk about and we're
looking at doing here in Denver.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
The way I look at it at valdemar As You've
built a foundation and what you build upon that foundation,
that's going to be up to you. And I think
the fact that you're at this point speaks volumes about
how you got to this point. And I know you
love the city of Denver, and you know, this most
recent issue that we're going to discuss right now has
to do with the mayor and Mike Johnston. I mean,
putting his foot in his mouth is putting it quite mildly.

(23:03):
I think he felt he was speaking to maybe a
friendly audience and didn't really anticipate the consequences. For once
this got out of the far left echo chamber, he
made these comments to Denverite about comparing the resistance that
could becoming ice his way should they choose to descend
upon Denver and extradite and remove and deport illegal criminal

(23:24):
aliens from the city of Denver, and he compared it
to a Tienna Men's Square moment. Now, to his credit,
Mark Salinger nine News really peppered him in this interview
about those comments.

Speaker 14 (23:37):
Are you open to sending Denver police officers to the
county line to stop federal forces or National guardsmen from
other states from coming into Denver?

Speaker 15 (23:46):
We have no plan to do that, and we really
hope that we don't ever have to do that.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
I have no plan. Are you open to?

Speaker 15 (23:52):
Well, we're going to do right now, it's hard to
keep an eye on what the preacher president actually plans
to do and what the proposal actually is.

Speaker 14 (23:57):
It sounds to me like you're walking back the comments
from a couple days ago saying that you would be
willing to send Denver police officers. Do you regret making
those comments and now getting questions like this, Would.

Speaker 15 (24:07):
I have taken it back if I could? Yes, I
probably wouldn't have used that image because I don't that's
the image. I hope we can avoid what I was
trying to say, is this is an outcome I hope
we can avoid in this country.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
I think none of us want to.

Speaker 14 (24:16):
You talk about civil disobedience, You've mentioned that a couple
of times now.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Would you be willing to participate in those?

Speaker 14 (24:22):
As the mayor of Denver, would you be willing to
go out and protest these things?

Speaker 15 (24:25):
I would if I believe that our residents are having
their rights violate. If I think things are happening that
are illegal or immoral or an American in our city,
I would certainly protest it, and I would expect other
residents would do the same.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Baltim Are your response to that.

Speaker 7 (24:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (24:40):
If Mayor Mike Johnston has just been inflammatory or just
doesn't understand how this process actually works. Because deportations, which
is what he was talking about, there are happening now,
They've been happening. They happened under Obama, every president, and
so it's not like Donald Trump is trying to do
something new.

Speaker 7 (24:58):
The way he was speaking.

Speaker 10 (24:59):
If you listen that whole interview, they even talk about
the National Guard. He was talking about the Colorado's Guard
won't do it, so they'll have to get Mississippi or Alabama.
The National Guard isn't involved in deportations, So what he's
talking about is almost as though like an army is
about to invade the city of Denver, grab citizens and
take them out, and that's not what's going to happen.

(25:22):
So I don't really get what he's even talking about.
And he really he did kind of you could tell
he kind of regrets what he said to the Denver
right because it was inflammatory and it really was a
call to violence in a way, Like he's talking about
citizens going out there with the police and standing at
the county line.

Speaker 7 (25:42):
Which is also stupid, because what does he think.

Speaker 10 (25:45):
It's like, you know, Denver's a walled city with one
gate where you can come in. What he's talking about,
He's like, where are they going to stand? Which part
of the county line? It's very large, you know, it's
on there's a west side, on the north side, and
they just what's he talking about?

Speaker 7 (25:59):
Like they're going to stay there and block them from
coming in.

Speaker 10 (26:01):
And then fifty thousand citizens are going to stand there
with the police, Like that's not good. And then he
you know, he li likened it to Tenements Square, where
you know, three hundred people that we know have died.
It is probably much much larger than that. Thousands of
people were injured. It's really a bad, you know, visual
that he gave there, and I think he realized that,

(26:23):
but he didn't also completely walk it back. He just said,
we want to avoid that. Right still on the table.
I heard, yeah, exactly, it's still on the table. We
want to avoid that. But it does sound like he's,
you know, putting up a huge resistance too, or he
wants to put up a huge resistance should this happen.

Speaker 7 (26:41):
Will he be able to Probably not.

Speaker 10 (26:43):
I actually just talked to a police officer of Denver
earlier today and you know, he mentioned de know that,
you know, should Mike Johnson asked the Denver police to
go and stop ICE from from doing with their job.

Speaker 7 (27:00):
Is that they will not do.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
That, nor should they in my view, and it's putting
their own lives at risk and risking a conflict that
should be avoided because well, he said, most likely, like.

Speaker 10 (27:11):
Mike Johnson won't even know these things are happening. They're
not going to ask his permission. When ICE is going
to come in and do this, They're going to get
what they may need and they're going to go do it.
Mike Johnson will probably find out about it afterwards. And
with the Denver Police Force, typically they enforced local laws.
The federal agents enforced the national federal laws. When they

(27:33):
do ask for help, usually it's just in protecting the
area for the citizens in the area. They don't actually
participate cor in going in and deporting someone. One interesting
thing police told me today was that they were dealing
with a man from Nicaragua recently downtown who was intoxicated
and they there was a call he got kicked out

(27:56):
of a homeless shelter and the man from Nicaragua actually
he asked, can you guys just support me? I want
to go home.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Well, that's the easiest way right there.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
The Denver Police Department doesn't do that. No, we can't.
That's outside our jurisdiction.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (28:14):
But he said, that's interesting that someone would say that
that maybe there's going to be a change. He said
he never heard someone say that before.

Speaker 7 (28:21):
But this, guys, could you just could you just send
me home?

Speaker 3 (28:26):
They didn't factor that in, but yeah, I think this.
They know that the storm is coming in the form
of ice, and a lot of them might want to
get out ahead of it like the man you just described.
He is Valdemar Archiletta. I'm Ryan Schuling. We're back to
wramp up our number one. More comments for Mike Johnston
walking this back about Tim and Square and Ice issuing
big deportations of those here illegally, and it's gotten national

(28:49):
response as well from Senator Ran Paul and Tom Holman.
The incoming borders are for President elect Trump back after this.

Speaker 7 (29:12):
Trump's new borders are.

Speaker 14 (29:13):
Tom Homan has said that he is willing to arrest
leaders like yourself for standing in the way of these
policies that they want to enact. Would you be willing
to go to jail for these things?

Speaker 15 (29:26):
Yeah, I'm not afraid of that, and I'm also not
seeking that. I think the goal is we want to
be able to negotiate with reasonable people how to solve
hard problems.

Speaker 14 (29:34):
You would encourage people to protest.

Speaker 15 (29:37):
I think we're gonna look at every option. But yeah,
I don't think that there are you know, I talked
to some high school kids this week who were terrified
about this. I don't think those kids are going to
stand there and watch three of their classmates get pulled
out of a history class with the other twenty seven
stand by and do nothing. I don't think that's what
Denveright's or Americans would do in this context at all.

Speaker 14 (29:53):
What is your line where you say, yes, I support
these deportations and no, I don't support these other ones.

Speaker 7 (30:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
I think our line is clear.

Speaker 15 (30:02):
We think if you are a violent criminal that is
committing serious crimes like murder or rape in Denver, you
should be prosecuted to the folks end of the law
and you should be deported.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Mayor Mike Johnston of Denver with Mark Salinger nine News,
and that last part right there is exactly who Ice
Tom Holman President Trump are going to target with this
first wave of deportations. These people shouldn't be in Denver,
Trendya rogwas, shouldn't be an Aurora. There should be no debate,
discussion or argument about this. Let's go to the Texters, Brian.

(30:32):
The good news about Mike Johnston, it's people like him
that are turning the state of Colorado red. People are
just sick and tired of this. Better than that now
governor's mayor is telling people what to do and when
to do it and how to do it.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Police know better.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
He's actually even worse because he's not pretending to be
on Trump and RFK Junior side, the fake libertarian governor
and mayor, lying liars who lie. I'm not so sure
about the turning Colorado red part. This guy tried to
do it, at least in part. Valdemore ARCHI Letebeck with
me in the studio.

Speaker 7 (30:59):
N I hope he knows something I don't.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
But what do you make of Johnston's comments right there?

Speaker 10 (31:06):
Again, he doesn't understand what's actually going to happen. Either
that or he's just lying because he wants to get attention. One,
he's not going to go to jail because again, no
one's going to tell him that this is happening.

Speaker 7 (31:16):
It's going to happen around him. He is insignificant to
the whole process.

Speaker 10 (31:21):
Really, the fact what I don't like there that he
said is the fact that he went and talked to
high school kids wherever he talked to them, and when
they brought this up as a fear, rather than telling
them the truth, which he has to know that no,
they are not going to come into your schools and
drag your classmates out.

Speaker 7 (31:39):
Instead, he kind of like fanned.

Speaker 10 (31:41):
The flames and was like, oh, no, you're going to
you need to rise up or whatever.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Is horrible.

Speaker 10 (31:47):
I hate when our politicians are leaders or whatever lie
to different groups because they want to use them as
emotional pawns to get you know, political capital or whatever.

Speaker 7 (31:59):
Rather than honest and telling them, you know what, don't
you don't have to.

Speaker 10 (32:02):
Worry about that, that's not the way deportations work. Your
classmates are not going to be drawn out, and then
tell them that this is the plan, which he's he
has to have heard it that they're going to go
after people who are criminals in the system, the criminal
justice system, and those are going to be the individuals
they're looking to deport first, and it is going to
be over stays. And that's what's not what he's making

(32:26):
this out to be. He has to know it. He's
lying to the people because he wants to draw or
rile up this emotional feelings.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Why.

Speaker 10 (32:35):
I don't know what personal gain he has to come
from it. I don't know what his long term goals are,
if he wants to be governor or whatever, but he's
trying to use this as a statement to bring attention
to himself, like look at me, I'm going to stand
up to Trump.

Speaker 7 (32:48):
I'm going to stand up to this. I'm going to be, you.

Speaker 10 (32:51):
Know, the hero for the the everyday citizen here who's
going to be taking out of their house and deported
when that's not going to happen.

Speaker 7 (32:57):
So tell the.

Speaker 10 (32:58):
People the truth other than scaring them as their own benefit.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
What what he's doing is in line with what Rush
Limbaugh always warned us about with liberals. It's symbolism over substance.
It's him trying to send a message to those far
left kind of voters that are part of his base,
or how he assumes it. But here's Senator Ran Paul,
a true libertarian and no far right conservative. But this
was his words of wisdom and warning for Mike Johnston.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
The mayor of Denver.

Speaker 6 (33:26):
If he's going to resist federal law, which there's a
long sending history of the supremacy of federal law. He's
going to resist that, it will go all away to
Supreme Court, and I would suspect that he would be
removed from office. I don't know whether or not there'd
be a criminal prosecution for someone resisting federal law, but
he will lose, and people need to realize that what
he is offering is a form of insurrection where the

(33:49):
states resist the federal government. Most people objected to that
and rejected that long ago. So I think the mayor
of Denver is on the wrong side of history.

Speaker 7 (33:58):
And really, I.

Speaker 6 (33:58):
Think we'll face lead ramifications if he does in obeue
the federal law.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
And here's Tom Holman.

Speaker 16 (34:03):
And for those mayors and those governments who say they're
going to stop me from stop Ice from doing the job,
stop me from doing this job, listen to Lake and
Riley Tate. Listen to the seventeen minutes of this girl suffering,
fighting for her life, fighting for her breath.

Speaker 7 (34:16):
This little girl didn't want to die. He fought like hell.

Speaker 16 (34:19):
And listen to that tape that happens every day across
this country at the hands of an illigo alien.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Sixty two percent of Americans in a CBS poll favored
mass deportations Valdemar So is Johnson just playing to the
hard left on this issue because it seems like a
loser he is.

Speaker 10 (34:34):
I think a lot of times in areas like Denver,
where they are very blue, individuals like him live in
their own little bubble where they just assume everyone in
their district things the way they do, and so it's
it's time that you know, Mike Johnson hears that there's
another site. He represents more people than the hard left,
and so we should not be advocating things like this

(34:56):
that are ridiculous and they are illegal.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Now you have started pursuing at least the investigation of
potentially recalling Mike Johnston.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Tell us where that stands and where that's going.

Speaker 7 (35:07):
Yes, and it wasn't.

Speaker 10 (35:09):
I honestly had no intention of pursuing this, but so
many people have responded that they want to do this
that it's worth looking into. And so there's a group
of people doing it. I'm kind of just working with them.
But the papers have been picked up to file a petition,
and so you know, we're looking at what kind of
language do we want to use in filing the petition.

(35:30):
What is it going to cost to print these petitions,
because even though we only need like twenty two four
hundred signatures, you need to get like thirty five thousand
or something because a lot of them will be thrown out.

Speaker 7 (35:41):
So to get those printed, what does it cost? Also,
what is going to be entailed in the groundwork, and
that is it going to be worth it. And then
also who's going to replace him?

Speaker 10 (35:50):
Cause if you just throw them out, we could end
up with somebody worse, and we don't want that to happen.

Speaker 7 (35:55):
You know, we could get like Ty Anderson. I've been there,
who runs and wins. We would not be that.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Kelly Broff.

Speaker 10 (36:03):
I would love for her. Kelly for out there, contact me.
I want to talk to you.

Speaker 7 (36:06):
Yeah. So, and I don't agree with everything she says.

Speaker 10 (36:10):
There are things she has proposed I didn't agree with,
but she's far better than Johnson. So we're looking into
it and we'll keep everyone.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Updated on Valdemar.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
And that was Valdemar Archi Letta joining us here, Jesse
Thomas on the other side of the glass, Ryan Shuling
with you here Live and your thoughts on whether or
not it is worthwhile to try to remove Mike Johnston
from office in a recall effort.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Now.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Dan Kaplis voiced his opinion on the matter yesterday on
his program, saying that the time resources involved it would
not be worth it in.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
The long game.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
But I don't know that it would be without merit
and without fruit in terms of it as an endeavor
of pursuing this because Mike Johnston knows that he stepped
in and he's trying to walk it back. But his
comments are inherently dangerous, and when you see the video
the Bill Milusian reported with Fox News yesterday of a

(37:04):
two year old at the border. A two year old
with a note, just a piece of paper, came across
the border unaccompanied, no parent, no guardian. Somehow she was
trafficked through with the cartels and a coyote and arrived
at What are we supposed to do with this poor
little girl? Mike Johnston would have us do nothing, would

(37:25):
have us do nothing, and that is completely unacceptable to me.
Stay tuned hour number two straight ahead the situation without
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