11-30-24 The Weekend Hour 1: Trump Needs to Dismantle Surveillance/Security State

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
To night. Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA
director of talk show host Michael Brown. Brownie, no, Brownie,
You're doing a heck of a job the Weekend with
Michael Brown. Hey, welcome to the Weekend with Michael Brown.
Glad to have you with me. Yeah, we're live this,
We're live this weekend. I hope everybody had a great Thanksgiving.
I hope you. Hope you took some time out on Thursday.
And for all of you who had to work on Thursday,

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I hope you found another time to take some time
and to realize just how dramatically the world has changed. Now.
We still don't. Don't get me wrong, we still got
a whole boatload of problems. But what I noticed I
took I took the week off. What I noticed over

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the past six days since last Saturday, is a difference
in attitude and attitude. You know, showing up is is
most of life just showing up, and from there it
depends on you know, incremental talent. You don't have to
be the most talented person in the world, but as

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long as you show up, do the very best that
you can and take on whatever life throws at you
with a really good attitude, an attitude that says, and
don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to I'm not
trying to be polyannish here, because when the crap hits
a fan, and lord knows, I've had a lot of
crap throne at me in my life. But when the

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crap hits the fan and you realize, yow, this is
crap and it really is crappy, and you know, this
really is lousy, and I hate it, but boom, I'm
going to keep moving. As long as you keep moving,
whether in the literal sense or in the metaphysical sense,
whatever it is, as long as you keep moving, put

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your head down and just burrow forward, just keep moving,
you'll eventually come out the other side. Everybody does. Now,
there's something in life that are not so much. You
have terminal brain cancer on the way and I don't
know where was I. Somebody was telling a story about

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a friend on the radio in the way end, about
someone who had terminal brain cancer. But the point of
the story was not so much that he had terminal
brain cancer, but it was how he approached his whatever
remaining days he had. He knew he was going to die,
as we all know we are all at some point

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going to die. But it was his approach to those
final two or three weeks that his friends were describing
about how he approached those finals two or three weeks,
and I thought, I mean, first of all, it was
an inspirational story because it was like, I accept that
I'm in this pilot crap brain cancer, and I accept

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that it is going to kill me. So what am
I going to do between now and the point when
it kills me. Well, I'm going to live my life
as fully as I can. I'm going to do as
much as I can physically, which was not apparently based
on the story I was hearing, he couldn't do that
much physically, but he was able to just in those
who would show up to just be with him. Was

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an inspiration to those around him. Every single one of
us has the ability ability to do that. And I
think what we're seeing hang with me here, we're gonna
jump from brain cancer to Donald Trump. I think what
we're seeing is and and it does worry me. Don't
get me wrong, I'm not conn This is why I said,
I'm not trying to be polyannish. Here. The very fact

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of just Trump's election has already changed so many different things.
Another thing I heard over the over the week that
I was off was how Democrats have come to the
realization that they really leffed up the border. Now, you
and I have known that for years, well actually we've

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known it for decades, but it read in their overreach,
and I would say it was a combination of two things.
It was overreached by the Democrats themselves, and it was
the absolute absence of a leader in the White House
to do anything about it, to either recognize it, or

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to have the brain power to have the presence of
mind to do anything to recognize you know what, maybe
we've taken this a little too far, and maybe I
need to try to figure out some way to reel
this back in a little bit, you know, and to
help with the political consequences. He could not even do that,
which is stunning, absolutely stunning, And for the Democrats to
now start talking about, you know, in hindsight, well maybe

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we kind of screwed that up is good news. Now. Look,
and again I want the Democrats to continue to be
as stupid as they were in the past. Selection I
hope they're that stupid in future elections too. But there's
also a part of me that hopes that they at
least learn something, because that means we have a chance

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that there might be some Democrats that will recognize that, hey,
you know, our capitulation to this far left Marxist wing
of the party has gone too far, and maybe we
need to try to try to move back to the center.
Well as they move to the center and we move
to the right. If you go back to my example,
I've always used a Peggy Noonan's ruler of six inches

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being the middle moderate and if we can somehow start
moving them back towards six inches as we move toward eight, nine, ten,
twelve inches, then that means that the country as a
whole has and the and the election tells us that
indeed the country did move to the right overall, generally,

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the country moved to the right. Now, that's a small victory,
but that's not winning the war. That's just a small
We won won battle back in November five, and so
now twenty five days later, we're still all assessing what
happened and what didn't happen, and we're all now looking
at what we're going to do going forward. So that's

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what I did over a lot of the vacation over
the past six days was I collected a bunch of stories.
I read a bunch of things that you may have
heard other talk show hosts talk about, but you haven't
heard what I think about it, and you haven't heard
what I think that I think that you ought to
think about some of these stories. And so I want

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to start off with one that has to do with
the FBI. The FBI was that to do with anything
for I don't know, I forget how long I did it,
But I was an adjunct professor of law at the
University of Denver School of Law, and during that I
taught one course. Every semester I taught one course, and

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it was the Patriot Act. And the very first semester
and the very first course I remember there were maybe
I don't know fifteen twenty students in the class, and
I walked in. They all took their positions through their
laptops open, and I think they were ready. I mean,
they obviously read my bio and they were probably expecting, Okay,

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we thought this might be interesting. We're going to take
this class from a guy who was there when they
paced past the Patriot Act and we're going to hear
all about how great it is and why we needed
to do all the things we needed to do. And
so and I forget what clause I pulled out, but
I pulled some clause of the Patriot Act out and
started the lecture something along these lines. Paul so and

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so says blah blah blah blah blah, whatever blah blah
blah was. And I said, let me tell you what
that's done. That little section right there was the very
beginning of what, at some point in the future we
will refer to the beginning of the security state that
we will see that we crossed the line in protecting

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civil liberties and all in the name of security, all
of it because of what happened on nine to eleven,
and Congress and the Bush administration all feeling like they
needed to be doing something to protect Americans, we adopted
the Patriot Act, and we absolutely started eviscerating civil liberties
and civil rights. I had their attention because it was

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the complete opposite. I think about what they were expecting
to hear about my take on the Patriot Act. And
the same is true with the FBI. Holman Jenkins, who
is a great ride over at the Wall Street Journal
an editorial page. He's one of the members of the

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editorial board, wrote an editorial back, this has been four
or five days beginning of my vacation. Democrats need FBI
reformed too. The subhead on this article says, the collusion
and laptop hoaxes where Americans siloviki protecting their power. Siloviki

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is a kind of a Eastern European Russian term, for
lack of a better term, useful idiot, useful idiots. And
I want to walk through this opinion piece because Holman
Jenkins is right when he writes Democrats need to come
to terms not only with their law fare failures against

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Donald Trump, they need to recognize their stake in cleaning
up the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Why would we pinpoint
the Federal Bureau of Investigation because much like the Patriot Act,
the FBI has gone so far off the deep end,
so lost track of what their job is that one
of the things that Donald Trump needs to do is

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to fire Christopher Ray and replace Christopher Ray, the existing
current director. Even those terms not up fire him anyway,
but the fight begin and maybe dismantle the FBI. Hey,
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let's start with the FBI. So, the Wall Street journalist
Editoile writes that the eternal problem of intelligence agencies empowered
to classify information to hide it from America's enemies, but

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they can hide their own misdeeds and all their blunders
from the American public. Two, for example, using objectively faults
and those are the words of the Department of Justice
Inspector General, and likely using fabricated Russian intelligence, all the
pretext for improper actions in the Hillary Clinton email click case,

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which they write may have bumbing bumblingly elected mister Trump.
Back in twenty sixteen, Terry mccaulliffe, the Clinton loyalists, former
Democrat Party chief and then Virginia governor, asked the right
questions in the aftermath of that fiasco. Remember that, Remember
when James Comy came out and said the Hillary Clinton

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did violate the law, and then maybe she didn't violate
the law fifth flop back and forth just before the
election back in twenty sixteen. I know, I know that
it's like ancient history, but it's important to remember because
the question that Terry mccaulliffe asked was the right question.
Who fabricated an apparently fake email exchange between a liberal

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activist and Democratic Party official which was then cited in
some kind of Russian document in the FBI's attempt to
go after Donald Trump and General Flynn and everybody else
in that first administration. Terry mccaulliff asked this, the Journal
rights in what cubicle in Moscow? And with the help

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of which treason as Americans was this fraud perpetrated to
spoof then FBI chief James Comy in his chaotic election
changing actions, And the Journal says, We've learned one thing
since twenty seventeen, and that is pretty simple. The Russians
perhaps were not involved at all. Mister Comy may have
eed on some flotsam from the Internet handed over by

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Dutch intelligence to justify actions designed to fix the Clinton
email problem. But here's the money quote from the editorial,
a pattern was born, and Democrats shouldn't overinterpret the fact
that they benefited from the follow on actions Using false
Russian intelligence in the form of the Steele dossier, the

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FBI sought to trammel the president it had just help
elect using false claims about Russian intelligence. It tried to
stop his re election and assure Joe Biden's victory in
twenty twenty by promoting the laptop lie. We now know,
thanks to reporting from Miranda Divine and the New York

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Posts and others, that that's precisely what they were doing.
The FBI was engaged in election interference. It's kind of
the first it's almost the tip of the sphere of
the law fair against Donald Trump, and it was being
perpetrated by it. And don't laugh when I use the
phrase America's premier or law enforcement agency. Either they're really

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really stupid, which would argue for their demise, or they
were complicit and knew exactly what they were doing, which
argues for their demise. Which brings this to the conclusion
that the FBI needs to be dismantled. Well, how do
you go about doing that? And what's and what's it

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going to take for Donald Trump to to literally change
the culture of the FBI. Well, it's more than just
changing the FBI director. More than that has to be done.
Go back to the Wall Street Journal for just a moment.

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In speaking directly to the Democrats, Holman Jenkins writes this, Democrats,
these actions weren't in loyalty to your interests, but were
aimed at protecting the FBI, at keeping the world friendly
to the intelligence communities current institutional structure and membership. If
not for the collusion misdirection, mister Comy's original catastrophic twenty

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sixteen meddling would have been the scandal of the century.
A bipartisan Congress would have said never again and enacted
the clearly indicated legislative reform. And this is the money
quote strip the FBI of its counterintelligence mission which it
abused to make itself a rogue actor in presidential politics.

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You know, I think that maybe I didn't go on
lexus nexus to confirm, but that may be the one
and only time that I've heard any mainstream newspaper, broadcast, television, outlet, network,
anybody else pinpoint precisely the problem. And that's the FBI's

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involvement in counterintelligence on domestic soil. And that gets us
back to the Patriot Act, because that's the genesis of
exactly how we got to this point. So if you
go all the way back to two thousand and one
and you look at the Patriot Act, and you see that, oh,

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Congress needs to create within the FBI a counterintelligence division
so they can literally spy on Americans. Hmm. I seem
to remember some pesky Fourth Amendment clause about you know reason,
you know, no unreasonable searches and see only reasonable searches
and seizures and that has to be accompanied by a warrant.

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So they created the piz Accord, the Foreign Intelligence Surveyor
Act Court, where organizations like the FBI, who now have
a counterintelligence function could go and seek from members of
this FIZA court who are fed from taken from federal
judges around the country. They sit in a court as
the pies a court, and they approve warrants to go

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spy on Americans. How do you think we got to
where we are today? And so now, how do you
think it's going to be to unwind all of this
when you think about them being able to use counterintelligence

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and play off that to protect Hunter Biden and at
the same time protecting Hunter Biden go after Donald Trump,
all of which what influences an election, Yes, strip them
of counterintelligence. So I read that and I wrote about
what needs to be that's next. Don't go away tonight.

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The one doesn't make any difference. So one of the
stories that caught my attention was an editorial on the
Wall Street Journal over the week during the week about
Trump needs to dismantle the FBI. The headline was Democrats

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need FBI reform too. Declusion and laptop hoaxes were Americas
Slovaki protecting their power, their useful idiot moment, protecting their
own power. And that's exactly what I mean. They were
doing two things. I would disagree with Homan Jenkins about
one kind of minute but yet important point. Not only

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were or not only was the FBI trying to protect themselves,
but they were also this goes all the way back
to twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, they were also trying to
interfere in an election. And as I said before the break,
that really was the beginning of the lawfair against Donald Trump.

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But for me, it goes way beyond just the lawfair
against Donald Trump. It goes back to the enactment of
the of the Patriot Act and the creation of a
counterintelligence unit within the FBI that allows it to spy
on Americans. Yeah. I keep using the word spy because
the FBI is a law enforcement unit. They're just they're

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just kind of like a national police force, nothing more,
nothing less. Now, police forces, not many, but some, most
notably the NYPD. The New York Police Department has its
own intelligence unit and they created that post nine to

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eleven on their own. Nobody asked them, you know, FEDS
didn't ask them to do it, but they knew that
they needed their own intel. But they don't operate really
much in terms of counterintelligence. They operate more in just
trying to make sure they have all the intel they
can about any threats against New York, specifically New York City,

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but also the greater New York area that they can use.
In terms of law enforcement, counterintelligence is much different than that.
Counterintelligence is where you're actually spying on your subjects in
hopes of creating In this case, they were using it

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to create false narratives about the laptop. Counterintelligence. It's a
distinction with a very serious difference. Law enforcement is about
investigating crimes that you know something has happened, and now
you need to investigate and find the perpetrators, gather the

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evidence so a case can be made, so the perpetrators
can be held to account for their criminal activity. Counter
Intelligence is more along the lines of we don't know
if anybody's going to commit a crime, but we want
to go out and spy and see if we can
find anybody that might be on the path of maybe

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creating or starting or or committing a crime. So it's
a huge distinction. No crimes been committed, Well, you might argue, well, then, Michael,
how do we prevent nine to elevens. Well, you can
prevent nine to elevens if you actually pay attention to

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what you should pay attention to. And that's odd activity
that might indicate some potential future criminal activity. But you
don't need spial Americans to do that. You do that
through observation. You do that through through basic intel, you know,
public intelligence. You know it's got to hate. I can't

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be to use a phrase, but you know, see something
say something. You know, I hate that phrase, but there
is some element of truth to it. You see something
odd like, oh, I don't know. You get some people
from foreign nationals that are here on student visas that

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are learning to fly airplanes, but they have no interest
in learning how to land the airplanes. They only want
to learn how to fly the plane. Well, in hindsight,
that might be something that you would say, well, Michael,
that's easy to detect. Really, how many people go to
flight school only to learn how to fly a plane
once it's in air? That that that should send up

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a flag to any flight instructor anywhere. Oh, you just
you don't want to learn how to take off? No,
I just want to know how to you know, like
like you know, if I'm ever in a If I'm
ever one a jet, I'm going to go stream and
you know, the pilots pass out. I want to know
how to fly, Well, don't you want to learn how

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to fly? And then no, I just want to learn
how to fly. Well, somebody here to come down, eh,
I just right now, I just want to learn how
to fly. That in and of itself outherise raise a
red flag. So we create the fis a court that
allows these kind of warrantless searches, or at least warrantless

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in the sense that you don't know about it. You're
not presented with a warrant. And when you are presented
with a pis a warrant, you can't tell anybody about it.
You can't say anything to it. You can't, you know,
you really can't. You can't even you know, going to
get a lawyer and find it in the pies A
court hard, if not all, virtually impossible to do. So

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what's the solution. Well, first, I mean the obvious thing
is if you want to train, if you want to
change the culture of any organization, all all organ all
organizations are comprised of what people, So you have to
change the people. So first, FBI Director Christopher Ray and

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every single major department head within the FBI needs to
be fired on day one. In fact, they need to
be telescoping right now that that's what's going to happen.
So if they want to, they can go ahead and
resign because they know they come January twentieth, boom, you're
going to get your walking papers. And then second, the
Counterintelligence Division needs to be eliminated, just completely eliminated. Domestic

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terrorist threats are criminal nature at their core, and you
don't need a counterintelligence apparatus for domestic terrorism. You need
a law enforcement agency. And the replacement of appointments that
Trump is going to make. They need to be well
I refer to as disruptors. They need to be willing

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to break the China to create an entirely new culture.
These are gonna have to be incredibly strong individuals. Remember
the story at the very beginning of the program about
the person that had brain cancer, the person that they
knew that they only had three weeks to live, that
they were in their final days, and yet they persevered.

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You have to have that same kind of perseverance, that
perseverance that says I work for the President of the
United States of America, and he wants to change the
culture of this organization. And I'm gonna fight the bureaucrats
that cannot be fired. I'm gonna fight them and make
sure every single day that they're doing exactly what it

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is that we want done. And if they're doing anything else,
then I will start the process to fire them too.
It's gonna take yeomens effort to do that sort of thing.
And when I say strong individuals, I mean strong individuals,
and they can't have any previous ties to the FBI
period it and not necessarily law enforcement either. You can

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you could hire I mean for the for the for
the upper management. I would I would argue that you
really don't even need law enforcement officers. You need change agents.
You need good managers. You need people who can hire
people below them to be their assistance and their advisors,

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so then you can start bringing in law enforcement officers
from other agencies around the country. The dismand the dismantling
of this surveillance state is long overdue. You go all
the way back to the Church Commission, all the way
through and beyond the Patriot Act. We have created a

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security surveillance state bordering on a Stazi like power structure
that just tramples American civil liberties. The fights ac Court
itself needs to be replaced. The abuses within the thighs
of court themselves are rampant, and Congress has done little
to correct those abuses. All of which is to say

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that Trump has an enormous job ahead of him. You know,
the denomination of Pam Bondi, the former Attorney General of Florida,
to be the next Attorney General of the United States,
this is what I would call a good start. But
she needs to be given free reign to bring in

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her people, people that will not just be loyal to her,
but will be loyal to the president too, that are
going to be change agents, that are going to be
willing to, you know, break the China, knock some heads,
you know, lawsuits will fly, which is why I keep
repeating this, not everything's going to change on day one,

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but all the change is going to start on day one,
and I think the FBI is one of the first
places within the Department of Justice. Obviously Pam Bondy's going
to do that within DJ. But I've just got a
real bugaboo about this security surveillance state that we now

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live in. You know, there's one little thing that occurred
or that I heard. It's been occurring for some time,
but it hit the news pretty heavily over the Thanksgiving holiday.
And if you don't believe that we live in a
double standard security surveillance state where American citizens are treated

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one way and somebody else has treated another, well, then
hang tight and I'll tell you about that. It's the
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I appreciate you tuning in. So we're talking about the

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dismantling of the surveillance security state by starting with the TSA.
I'm not TSA, the FBI. I'm looking at a story
about the TSA. So you probably now I know where
I'm where I'm headed the Department of Homeland Securities Inspector General. Back. Oh,

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sometime in the fall, I forget exactly when it was released,
a heavily redacted report revealing the Customs and Border Protection
Immigration and Customs Enforcement and the TSA Transportation Security Administration
do not require any sort of ID before a criminal

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illegal alien or just an illegal alien. And actually criminal
illegal alien is kind of redundant, but I mean criminal
illegal alien in the sense that you can be an
illegal alien, and yes, that is a crime, but you
can also be an illegal illegal alien that also has
a criminal record. You can also be an illegal alien

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that happens to be on the terrorist watch list, but
they're being allowed into the country without proper identification, and
they're being allowed to fly within the country. So over
the holiday week, I'm listening to a story and I'm
I'm literally screening at my television because it's talking about it.

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And again, this goes back to the creation of the
Patriot Act, the creation of the Department of Homeland Security
and the enactment of something called the TSA, the Transportation
Security Administration. Now, when you and I go to the airport,
you know this weekend is supposed to be a record
number of people at airports. Well, if you have to
be going to an airport, you have to look and

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find out we're the illegal aliens? Were they boarding the plane?
Because some airports have special lines for them because they're
not required to show an ID. Now you have to
walk up and you have to show a government issued ID.
You have to subject you don't have to, but you'll
get a secondary screening. You have to subject yourself at

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many airports to facial recognition software. Now I have yet
to understand what this does in terms of protecting us
from terrace. Because over here in another part of the airport,
someone who's crossed into Texas into Texas illegally, let's say
an EGO pass, and they have the Customs and Border

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Patrol the CBP one app on their phone. Oh that's
good enough, so you self identified. It's not a government
issued ID, it's an app that you fill out. You
put whatever name you want to in there, whatever age
you want to, whatever country of origin you want to,
whatever date of birth you want you because there's no

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verification whatsoever. And you take that app and you show
what you filled out, and that's good enough to go
board an airplane. Now, I think IDs to board airplanes
are stupid to begin with, But think about the double standard.
You and I are, in essence subjected some sort of
proctology examination in order to board an airplane because it's

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meant to make you feel safe. At the same time
that over here, in a little corner of the airport
that nobody pays any attention to, people are boarding airplanes
without proper ID, without a government issued ID, and they're
in the country illegal, illegally. So they're already in violation
of federal law by being in the country illegally, and

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yet they're being allowed on airplanes. Yeah, I don't. Let
me make clear that if someone's on the Terrace watch
list and they bought an airplane, I'm not really so
worried about them, And I'm not so worried about even
an illegal alien boarding an airplane because we've secured the

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cockpit doors. We know what the final result is, we
know what the final plan is. If a terrorist tries
to hijack a plane. So nobody's gonna allow that to happen.
Nobody unless you're a beta male that's scared of your
own shadow. Every male, in fact, I having probably many
females on those planes, are going to do everything they

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can to stop those terrafts, and nothing's going to happen.
They'll never make it into the cockpit. But that's not
the point. The point is we have one set of standards,
this object you and I that have all of the
rights under the United States Constitution to travel, to exercise
our First Amendment rights, and those are being violated every

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time we're required to show an ID to simply travel
from point A to point B. And now I'm not
talking about the airlines. The airlines if they want to
ask for ID to make sure I'm not giving away
my ticket to somebody else, that's fine. I don't have it.
I don't have any problem with that. But for a
government agent to want to see my ID so that
I can board a plane for which I've already entered

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into a contract of carriage with an airline to take
me from point A to point B, that's between me
and the airline. That's not between me and the government.
But a double standard that allows someone in the country
that's here illegally to board without an ID while I
am required to submit an ID strong And it's an

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example of how the security surveillance state that we live
under that's started. I mean it started before the Patriot Act,
but the Patriarch put it in high gear. And then
the FBI created their counterintelligence unit and they went in
start spying on Americans, And so they're spying on us
while people that probably should be spied on before they

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even get to this country are allowed to board airplanes.
It's absolute insanity, but that's what's going on. Trump has
and again I'm not saying he can't do it. I
think that he can. I just went to cautionary one
that all of these changes like I've just discussed in
this hour are going to take a lot of time

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and a lot of heavy lifting, and we're going to
have to stand behind him for the full four years
plus that it will take to reverse the course of
this country. I'll be right back