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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Michael or of a legal truspasser. Do they not understand well,
they they don't understand that. By the way, someone asked
me on the text line before I get into what
I want to talk about this hour, somebody asked in
the text line, what would prevent a Biden from pardoning, Uh,
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every illegal alien in the country. This, you can't do
a blanket pardon to a group of unnamed people. The
pardons are I don't know polethic, but the president has
the power to grant pardons and reprieves for offenses against
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the United States. So it is two particular individuals for
offenses and crimes against the federal government. So you can't
just you can't just blanket say to everyone who has
crossed the border illegally, you are hereby pardoned. And you
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can't just blanket Grantham citizenship. It has to be on
an individual basis. So from a legal and a practical
point of view, it just simply cannot be done.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
So Chase, I guess a quick little squirrel here there
with the hunter Biden pardon from everything from January first,
twenty fourteen to December one, twenty twenty four That would
include everything. So if they Yes, there's possibly a murder
by Hunter Biden in you know, twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
He's clear, he is.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Clear of that. Yes, Okay, well no, no, no, no murder.
If it's a federal murder charge, yes, If it's a
state murder charge, no, So he just goes out and
shoots a girlfriend, then he's not immune from that.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
You can blanket a time frame for a person, but
you cannot blanket group, right.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So that that's I mean, it's it's a great thought
and it would be something that would be tempting for
someone like Biden to do, but can't do it. So yeah,
there's my answer to that. But in in in the
in the genre of just trying to irritate you, there's
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an international non government organization and in GEO but it's
but it's international. It's a group of journalists six different countries.
This group was intimately involved in the first Democrat backed
impeachment of Donald Trump. Well, they've now been exposed as
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receiving half of their funding from our own government from
the United States Department of State. The Organized Crime and
Corruption Reporting Project, which was co founded by an entrepreneur
by the name of Drew Sullivan, saw fifty two percent
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of the money it's spent between twenty fourteen and twenty
twenty three funneled to it by the federal government. This
is according to report published by an outfit called drop Site.
You can go Google and find drop Site. Now, obviously, concerningly,
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it appears that US taxpayer dollars likely contributed to the
Organized Crime and Coruption Reporting Project their investigation into former
New York Mayor Ruty Giuliani's political work in Ukraine. Those
active these were cited no fewer than at least four
times in the whistleblower letter that sparked the very first
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impeachment of Donald Trump back in twenty nineteen. Now, Trump
was ultimately acquitted of the charge by the US Senate,
But the report notes that while the Organized Crime and
Corruption Report project a massive this is a huge INNGO,
heavily involved in corruption reporting in Eastern Europe and Russia,
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has disclosed that it got some government funding, the exact
amounts which were previously not publicly known. Now since the
organization's founding, the government has contributed forty seven million dollars
to this in goo's budget and is now already committed
to granting the same in GOO an additional twelve million
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dollars uh elon the veik. If I know, forty seven
million dollars plus twelve that's fifty nine million dollars. I
know that's a dropping the bucket towards the two trillion
dollars that you want to save the government. But you
know what, every penny counts, and there's a place to
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start now. In addition to government funding, the Organization for
Corrupts and Reporting has gotten an estimated fifteen million dollars
from Britain, the French, the Swedes, and the Danes. Oh
well then and then I think the Netherlands too. I
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don't think that's not on my knows, but I think
the Netherlands were included in that group too. And they're
also backed by private donors. Want to take a guess
on who a private donor to an organization that might
have been in that got money from foreign governments, from
the US government and got money from wealthy individuals, and
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the organization was involved in the first MP of Donald Trump.
Any any guess or who that individual might be? Any
soores guesses? Yeah. The Open Society Foundation, the OCCERP just
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routinely collaborates with state and corporate media worldwide. This is
the cabal. This is a great example of how the
cabal is not just individual networks or the cables or
the news sites or anything. This is the NNGOS as
part of the cabal, getting taxpayer dollars so that they
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can then go use that. Now, I'm not going to
say that everything they do is bad, because they might
actually expose some corruption somewhere, but when they use that
domestically to go after Donald Trump, I'd say you got
a problem. So when I say that they cooperate and
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collaborate with media worldwide, it includes Germany's public broadcaster in
dr Der Spiegel, Rolling Stone Magazine, The Washington Post, The Guardian,
The Times, The Times of London, Francis LeMond and Australia's
Dossier magazine. And there's dozens of others too. And in
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addition to all of that, much of this organization's US
government backed work has focused on countering Russian media narratives,
which obviously raises concerns that the organization is simply spreading
its own propaganda to counter that that's being pushed by
the Russian government. There are numerous reports from this organization
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that had been cited as the basis for US government
against individuals, companies, and other governments all around the globe.
And like so many NGOs that we talked about in
this program, this particular group attempts to portray itself as nonpartisan,
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but it's co founder, that entrepreneur Drew Sullivan, has a
really lengthy social media track record of boosting partisan political narratives.
For example, he amplified claims that President elect Trump's nominees
for Secretary of Defense, Pete Hagsas sports far right Christian
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nationalist tattoos on his body. You may have seen those tattoos.
That those are not Christian nationalists tattoos.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
The tattoo in question that they claim is some Christian
nationalists is a Jerusalem Cross that's associated with the Kingdom
of Jerusalem and the modern country of Georgia. It's not
Christian nationalism. But the more important point is here isn't
in GEO another money laundering scheme that's being used? And
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at least as far as I can tell, digging into
the funding, they were supportive of in financial ways by
doing research, providing personnel, providing all sorts of logistical support,
for the first impeachment of Donald Trump and in specifically
going after Rudy Giuliani. Rudy Giuliani, America's mayor, is essentially broke,
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and I think what bugs me is that that nobody
that I can find. Maybe you've found otherwise, but I
really haven't found anybody who is trying to like support Giuliani.
I understand why Trump wouldn't, because Trump needs to stay
away from all of those particular issues, particularly now that
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he's been real elected. But is there nobody out there
that wouldn't you know, there's some I think ground zero
of memorabilia. There's some nine to eleven memorabilia that is
going to be auctioned off. Somebody out to buy that
and give it back to it. He's about to lose
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his apartment. I don't think he'll become homeless, but in
a way, Rudy Giuliani is about to become homeless. Now.
I know Rudy, and I think Rudy kind of went
off the deep end on some of the you know,
he got caught up in the middleeu of everything going
on about the stolen election. I get that he and
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I understand knowing Rudy Giuliani how he could get swept
up in all of that. But are we really going
to throw him on the streets. Well, I think in
America of twenty twenty four, that's precisely what people will do,
and I think it's a shame. Have you ever been
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to Edison, New Jersey. I've never not that I can
recall if I've ever been to Edison, New Jersey. Edison,
New Jersey's made the news because they have moved to
prohibit so called props in their city council meetings. Now,
when you think of a prop, what do you think
of I don't know, I don't know why, but the
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first thing came to my mind was a baseball bat.
Maybe they don't want people showing up at city council
meetings with baseball bats. Maybe they don't want them showing up,
you know, with a giant you know, placard of some sort,
you know that they might put up on easy you know,
a chart of how the city council is misspending money,
or how much money they're spending on illegal aliens. You know,
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a prop to show, you know, an audio or a
visual prop. No, no, no, no, no no. Their props
include all of those things, but also include American flags
in the US Constitution because the display of the American
flag or holding up like my little pocket Constitution here,
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holding up that Constitution is apparently disruptive. The American flag
is disruptive. They banned the flag and props in general
through a local ordinance that also limits how long a
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resident can address the city council. I can remember when
I was on a city council in Edmund, Oklahoma. At
the time that I was a city councilman in Edmund, Oklahoma,
it was the fastest growing city in Oklahoma. We were
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approving new subdivisions and building permits and commercial development. Everything
just I mean, it was just it was the wild
wild West oil boom everything going on. It was just crazy.
We never limited the amount of time that people had
to speak. And I was in law school at the time,
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and it was sometimes when we would have city council
meetings it seemed like they were on a Tuesday for
some reason. I had to make sure that I worked
around and that I didn't have any evening classes on
Tuesdays because city council meetings would oftentimes go past midnight.
Because we would allow people to speak their mind. Now,
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if people got disruptive there, you know, we might at
some point, you know, gabble them down and you know,
say that, you know, take a seat, and they would
take a seat. I don't recall ever having to ask
the cop to escort somebody out of the room. But
we never limited because we felt like and by the way,
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the mayor at the time, the reason I ended up
on the city council was one of my political science
my political science advisor happened to be the mayor, and
the mayor encouraged me to run for the city council.
So I did, and law and behold, I won, and
it was an amazing experience, one of the many amazing
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experiences I've had in my life. But he was a
firm believer that local government, being that government closest to
the people, that we had an obligation to listen to
the citizens. What do they want? What are their concerns?
And I know that there were times when I know personally,
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there were times when people would be droning on and
I would think to myself, you would never ever make
a good trial lawyer, You would never make a good
keynote speaker, because you don't know when to shut up.
You just kept droning on and on and on and on.
But we let them do it because they were the citizens,
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they were the taxpayers, and they had an interest, they
had a legitimate interest in the decisions that we were
going to make on the issues that we were going
to vote on. So we allow them to speak. But
I guess we don't do that anymore. Established after a
nearly five hour long council meeting to which I yawn
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and say bfdy had a five hour city council meeting,
a lot of residents in Edison, New Jersey, contend that
the government is attempting to stifle complaints about how their
tax dollars are being spent and are being prevented from
voicing their concerns about public safety. Mary Anne Hennessy, I
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wonder she's in relation to let's have a drink. Hennessy
said this, to consider the American flag and the constitution
of prop When someone raises this is an insult to
what the flag is, what the flag stands for, and
what this country is for. For you to consider the
use of the American flag of prop is disgusting. Another resident,
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Joe Bissoff, was removed from the meeting. Was physically moved
from the meeting after pulling out a small American flag
and waving.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
It American.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
The constitutional.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Orange.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
He's standing in a podium, dressed in a nice suit
and tie, white shirt. He's got his glasses on, gray haired,
older gentleman, and he has, you know, a small American
flag like you might hold at a parade, and he's
holding it up and he's slightly gestured, I mean, just
because he's using his hands to gesture. The flag's moving
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a little bit.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
He suggest there, you guys sat obtain he's a company
council ang.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
And he gets removed. Michael. The good thing about that
Edison Town council meeting, it got the attention to Scott Pressler. Yeah,
he's head in the jersey next. Uh, it's so great
to see these people finally freaking get what they deserve.
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Somebody else a great question on the text line about
the blank pardon, and well, let me pull up the
question specifically, give number fifty eight eleven. Michael Carter granted
the blanket pardon to anyone who dodged the draft. Though
didn't he not not by name, but by category. Well
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that's not technically correct. He issued a presidential proclamation I
don't remember what the number was, and he signed an
executive order. But in order for the pardon to take effect,
individuals had to step forward and make a claim for
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the pardon in order to obtain the pardon, and then
they could get a certificate that indicated that you were pardoned.
So again, it was it was I know, it seems
like a trivial difference, but it's actually a significant difference.
The question earlier was what would prevent Biden from just
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pardoning everyone who's coming to the country illegally. And my
argument is he cannot just blanket pardon everyone who came
here if he wanted to do what Carter did by
issuing a proclamation. By actually, the way I would argue
it is that Biden would be granting amnesty to all
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of these illegal aliens the pardon because it has to
be individual. It would have to be like what Carter did,
where you issue a proclamation that says we're not going
to prosecute anybody who dodged the draft during the Vietnam War,
but you have to step forward and you have to
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claim your pardon. You got to fill out these you've
got to go to the Department of Justice, I suppose you.
I don't know how it physically worked, but I would imagine,
just playing it through my head, that you would have
to go to a local FBI office and you would
have to present yourself and say, hello, my name is
so and so, and I ran off to Canada, or
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I burned my draft card or I did whatever. And
under the president's proclamation, I want to apply for the
pardon that he's issued under his proclamation, and then I
suppose they would look at your application and they would
if you qualified, they would issue a certificate of pardon.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So essentially what the illegal aliens would need to do
is step forward and apply for citizenship.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah. See, this is what it's weird. It's apples and
oranges because here they're well, in both cases there are crimes.
And it's pretty easy to prove that you dodged the
draft because you had to have been drafted or burned
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your card or escape to Canada to come to the
country illegally. At what point, because how do you prove
when is the amnesty is the pardon that Biden would
do for all time because or is he going to
set a time that says for those who came to
the country illegally up to Tuesday, December third, twenty twenty four, Well,
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then how do you prove that? How would you prove
that you came that you didn't come here on December tenth,
you know, a week from today, So that logistically, I
just don't see how that would work. But yeah, there
was a pardon, but the pardon was not granted to
just blanket. You actually had to come and claim your
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pardon and prove that you were a draft darger. That
happened back in like nineteen seventy seven or sometime, I think.
So that's the difference between those two. I'm going to
go back for just a moment, back to the story
about Edison, New Jersey, because why I want you to
finish hearing the audio, and.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
There is a video post that Michael says, go here doc.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Oh oh, so you can see it. Good he's producing that fascinating.
There are days when I just he fascinates me because
he actually does his job and I don't know, like
I never know what to expect. It's amazing. Some of
the residents in Edison are as they talk to the media,
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are saying that they don't understand why the council is
punishing those living in the town at large. Again the
blanket when only a handful of individuals tend to disrupt
the meetings, Well, if you're disrupting a meeting, if you
are preventing the meeting from conducting business, well you really
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don't need an ordinance to do that. You are there.
They are all sorts of ordinances that prohibit a that
make it unlawful to prohibit a government body from performing
its duties. Much like you know when you interfere with
with with the cop who's trying to enforce the law,
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that that's a crime. If they want to do that,
I don't have a problem with that. Somebody shows up
and they're marching around, you know, they get there's a
group of just I don't know, three people always you know,
there's three, four or five, ten, I don't care how
many even one. And they've got a saxophone, they've got
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a bass drum, they've got whatever they got and they're
marching around and they and they completely disrupting or they're
destroying the microphones, they're pushing over chairs or whatever. That's
a crime. And so you can be expelled from the
meeting for that difference here is they have prohibited props
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props which is a form of free speech. If I
walk into a meeting and I've got a placard that says,
you know, down with the city council, as long as
that's not interrupting the meeting and they can still conduct
their business, I can hold my sign up, holding an
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American flag, waiving a constitution is hardly disruptive to a
meeting unless you're offended by what those things represent or
what the placard says. And if that's the case, now
you're exercising a Heckler's veto, and I think improperly, which
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is improper anyway, but you're you're exercising a Heckler's veto.
But the larger point is you're punishing a large group
of people because there apparently are a small group of people. One, two, three.
Other stories don't say that disrupt city council meetings. How
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is waving a flag disruptive? Sue Malone Barber in one
of the stories says this, it's juvenile to fight this war.
You're losing. You're just making people more agitated and more determined.
To do something to provoke getting thrown out. Let it
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go now. I love that statement because, being the passive,
aggressive person that I can be at times, that's precisely
what I would do. If you tell me if the
Denver City Council enacts an ordinance that says you cannot
bring a flag to a Denver City Council meeting, That's
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what Booberville is going to do. We're all going to
show up the next Denver City Council meeting with American
flags and try to get our asses thrown out because
I would I would argue that that's a violation of
US forty two USC. Nineteen eighty three, that's violating my
constitutional rights to free speech. And so we'll see the
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city in County of Denver. But think about how just
out of control all of this is. Go back, let
me finish the audio.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Hold it up an American, give you.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
The constitutional value at.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
The warning that you continue level after fort content of
your time. It's like constead of the house. You didn't
you lose my suggestions?
Speaker 3 (26:50):
You is there?
Speaker 4 (26:52):
You get second opinions a company council to be going
to do our law.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
You stop now.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I want to shame you. Okay, he's going to take
him past the organ.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Come the cops stand behind the citizen. He's trying to
make his couch.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Before your time, your position to be forfeited. You're actually
to provide these.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I did nothing disruption, I would think he challenged him.
If you are challenge by the way he's been esported
out by the.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Contract, you continued that the officer continue to sit down. Yes,
you have to be removed from these chambers.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Think of the arrogance that it takes for now. I
can say this because I've been a city councilman. Think
about the arrogance it takes for little piss ant city councilmen,
a little piss ant mayor to say you sit down
and shut up, because we're not going to allow you
to talk because you have an American flag in your hand.
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What is this? Is this the old Soviet Union? Are
those tops the STAZI? Is that the KGB? Or is
that the FSB? Now? Is he now marked simply for
expressing his opinion to people who sought elected office and
serve at the will of the taxpayers, at the will
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of the citizens of that town Edison, New Jersey. And
we're allowing this to go on in this country. Shame
on us, absolutely, shamele us. I was raised in the
generation that said that they would give me something to
right about if I didn't stop crying. I remember that
line too. Dragon just gave a fist up.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yes, yep, you want something to.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Cry about, I'll give you something to cry about. Some
of the other don't push me, don't push me. But
I never got the I never got the wait till
your father gets home. Nope. Mom didn't need to wait
for dad to get home. Mom would take care of
it right.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
She could lay down the law on herself. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Do you remember those little ping pong paddles that had
the rubber ball attached by rubber band, And that was
the paddle that my mom had, not without the little
ball on it.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
We had a texture earlier, and I'm not sure I
could find it relatively quickly. But he said every time
Mom would start reaching for her purse. Oh yeah, I
saw that straighten up because apparently there's a wooden spoon.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
In the purse.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I hated that paddle. I hated that battle. Did you
ever get a paddling in school?
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Not from school?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
No, at home, I'm sure, but not never at school
because I was late eighties, so I think it died
off by that.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Oh yeah, I got I got paddled twice, both times
by the band teacher. Ask me why, I have no
clue why. I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure. And it
wasn't just me, it was It was never just me.
It was always at least one, if not two other
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guys that got the paddling. And it would be Mike, Michael,
Edward David to my office, and we knew and we
knew what was coming. We knew it was coming. You
deserved it, though, and we knew we deserved it, and
we and quite honestly, we didn't care. Now, probably the
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first time we cared because we didn't know whether or
not mom and Dad would learn about it. But once
we figured out that, well he's gonna paddle us, but
he's not gonna tell our parents, well then we didn't
carry any more.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, yeah, it's like, okay, well if they did tell
my parents that I get paddling twice, right, and probably get.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Grounded too, So that's that's that was the double whammy.
But once once I think both those band teachers are
now deceased, but at least, I would hope. So you
that were there one hundred and twenty five years old,
so good grief. And they padded the two different band leaders,
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but band teachers. Each paddled differently. One was just a good,
one strong wap and the other one was like you know,
three quick WAPs.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Now, did their paddles have holes in the paddle?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
So they No, they were just solid, solid and each
because they both had their own office and they both
had their own paddles. Of course, now think about that,
think about just having and it was prominently hung in
their office. You couldn't go to the office without seeing
the paddle. It's like, you know, you, it's like if
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I pulled out a gun and just laid a gun
here on the console and anytime anybody came in to
bug me while I'm doing the show, which you know
is the one thing that drives me crazy is people
coming in to talk to me in the middle of
a program and me just kind of reaching over and
just kind of slowly moving the gun over toward toward
the door. You walk in and you saw that paddle
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and you knew, oh crap, hold it, yeah, can't do
that today? Can you maybe that's part of our problem.
You know, I could, I could sound like a really
old fart here. You take prayer out of school, you
don't say the pledge of allegiance, you don't learn about civics,
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and nobody gets paddled for anything.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
As much as it sucks, pain is a fantastic teacher.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Yeah, and then when you get to be our age dragon,
we actually engage in pain because we think it's good
for us. True. I see your posts about how many
calories you've burned and all that, and you know what
I think about when I see that, it hurts. It hurts.
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I think about you know, I saw something about aging
the other day and people complaining about getting out of
bed and making you start making noises. When you get
to be my agent and you get out of bed.
I think I may have mentioned one of the programs
about a video showing older people, and I guess everybody,
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I'm just older people how to property get out of bed.
I didn't know there's a proper way. I just got up.
I just you know, I sat up in the bed
and put my feal floor and stood up. Well, apparently
that's wrong. You can go there's a proper way to
get out of bed, stay on your side, kick your
feet over, push yourself up, stand up,
Michael or of a legal truspasser. Do they not understand well,
they they don't understand that. By the way, someone asked
me on the text line before I get into what
I want to talk about this hour, somebody asked in
the text line, what would prevent a Biden from pardoning, Uh,
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every illegal alien in the country. This, you can't do
a blanket pardon to a group of unnamed people. The
pardons are I don't know polethic, but the president has
the power to grant pardons and reprieves for offenses against
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the United States. So it is two particular individuals for
offenses and crimes against the federal government. So you can't
just you can't just blanket say to everyone who has
crossed the border illegally, you are hereby pardoned. And you
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can't just blanket Grantham citizenship. It has to be on
an individual basis. So from a legal and a practical
point of view, it just simply cannot be done.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
So Chase, I guess a quick little squirrel here there
with the hunter Biden pardon from everything from January first,
twenty fourteen to December one, twenty twenty four That would
include everything. So if they Yes, there's possibly a murder
by Hunter Biden in you know, twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
He's clear, he is.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Clear of that. Yes, Okay, well no, no, no, no murder.
If it's a federal murder charge, yes, If it's a
state murder charge, no, So he just goes out and
shoots a girlfriend, then he's not immune from that.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
You can blanket a time frame for a person, but
you cannot blanket group, right.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So that that's I mean, it's it's a great thought
and it would be something that would be tempting for
someone like Biden to do, but can't do it. So yeah,
there's my answer to that. But in in in the
in the genre of just trying to irritate you, there's
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an international non government organization and in GEO but it's
but it's international. It's a group of journalists six different countries.
This group was intimately involved in the first Democrat backed
impeachment of Donald Trump. Well, they've now been exposed as
(02:58):
receiving half of their funding from our own government from
the United States Department of State. The Organized Crime and
Corruption Reporting Project, which was co founded by an entrepreneur
by the name of Drew Sullivan, saw fifty two percent
(03:22):
of the money it's spent between twenty fourteen and twenty
twenty three funneled to it by the federal government. This
is according to report published by an outfit called drop Site.
You can go Google and find drop Site. Now, obviously, concerningly,
(03:43):
it appears that US taxpayer dollars likely contributed to the
Organized Crime and Coruption Reporting Project their investigation into former
New York Mayor Ruty Giuliani's political work in Ukraine. Those
active these were cited no fewer than at least four
times in the whistleblower letter that sparked the very first
(04:05):
impeachment of Donald Trump back in twenty nineteen. Now, Trump
was ultimately acquitted of the charge by the US Senate,
But the report notes that while the Organized Crime and
Corruption Report project a massive this is a huge INNGO,
heavily involved in corruption reporting in Eastern Europe and Russia,
(04:27):
has disclosed that it got some government funding, the exact
amounts which were previously not publicly known. Now since the
organization's founding, the government has contributed forty seven million dollars
to this in goo's budget and is now already committed
to granting the same in GOO an additional twelve million
(04:51):
dollars uh elon the veik. If I know, forty seven
million dollars plus twelve that's fifty nine million dollars. I
know that's a dropping the bucket towards the two trillion
dollars that you want to save the government. But you
know what, every penny counts, and there's a place to
(05:13):
start now. In addition to government funding, the Organization for
Corrupts and Reporting has gotten an estimated fifteen million dollars
from Britain, the French, the Swedes, and the Danes. Oh
well then and then I think the Netherlands too. I
(05:34):
don't think that's not on my knows, but I think
the Netherlands were included in that group too. And they're
also backed by private donors. Want to take a guess
on who a private donor to an organization that might
have been in that got money from foreign governments, from
the US government and got money from wealthy individuals, and
(05:56):
the organization was involved in the first MP of Donald Trump.
Any any guess or who that individual might be? Any
soores guesses? Yeah. The Open Society Foundation, the OCCERP just
(06:18):
routinely collaborates with state and corporate media worldwide. This is
the cabal. This is a great example of how the
cabal is not just individual networks or the cables or
the news sites or anything. This is the NNGOS as
part of the cabal, getting taxpayer dollars so that they
(06:42):
can then go use that. Now, I'm not going to
say that everything they do is bad, because they might
actually expose some corruption somewhere, but when they use that
domestically to go after Donald Trump, I'd say you got
a problem. So when I say that they cooperate and
(07:05):
collaborate with media worldwide, it includes Germany's public broadcaster in
dr Der Spiegel, Rolling Stone Magazine, The Washington Post, The Guardian,
The Times, The Times of London, Francis LeMond and Australia's
Dossier magazine. And there's dozens of others too. And in
(07:28):
addition to all of that, much of this organization's US
government backed work has focused on countering Russian media narratives,
which obviously raises concerns that the organization is simply spreading
its own propaganda to counter that that's being pushed by
the Russian government. There are numerous reports from this organization
(07:50):
that had been cited as the basis for US government
against individuals, companies, and other governments all around the globe.
And like so many NGOs that we talked about in
this program, this particular group attempts to portray itself as nonpartisan,
(08:12):
but it's co founder, that entrepreneur Drew Sullivan, has a
really lengthy social media track record of boosting partisan political narratives.
For example, he amplified claims that President elect Trump's nominees
for Secretary of Defense, Pete Hagsas sports far right Christian
(08:37):
nationalist tattoos on his body. You may have seen those tattoos.
That those are not Christian nationalists tattoos.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
The tattoo in question that they claim is some Christian
nationalists is a Jerusalem Cross that's associated with the Kingdom
of Jerusalem and the modern country of Georgia. It's not
Christian nationalism. But the more important point is here isn't
in GEO another money laundering scheme that's being used? And
(09:12):
at least as far as I can tell, digging into
the funding, they were supportive of in financial ways by
doing research, providing personnel, providing all sorts of logistical support,
for the first impeachment of Donald Trump and in specifically
going after Rudy Giuliani. Rudy Giuliani, America's mayor, is essentially broke,
(09:36):
and I think what bugs me is that that nobody
that I can find. Maybe you've found otherwise, but I
really haven't found anybody who is trying to like support Giuliani.
I understand why Trump wouldn't, because Trump needs to stay
away from all of those particular issues, particularly now that
(09:59):
he's been real elected. But is there nobody out there
that wouldn't you know, there's some I think ground zero
of memorabilia. There's some nine to eleven memorabilia that is
going to be auctioned off. Somebody out to buy that
and give it back to it. He's about to lose
(10:20):
his apartment. I don't think he'll become homeless, but in
a way, Rudy Giuliani is about to become homeless. Now.
I know Rudy, and I think Rudy kind of went
off the deep end on some of the you know,
he got caught up in the middleeu of everything going
on about the stolen election. I get that he and
(10:41):
I understand knowing Rudy Giuliani how he could get swept
up in all of that. But are we really going
to throw him on the streets. Well, I think in
America of twenty twenty four, that's precisely what people will do,
and I think it's a shame. Have you ever been
(11:03):
to Edison, New Jersey. I've never not that I can
recall if I've ever been to Edison, New Jersey. Edison,
New Jersey's made the news because they have moved to
prohibit so called props in their city council meetings. Now,
when you think of a prop, what do you think
of I don't know, I don't know why, but the
(11:26):
first thing came to my mind was a baseball bat.
Maybe they don't want people showing up at city council
meetings with baseball bats. Maybe they don't want them showing up,
you know, with a giant you know, placard of some sort,
you know that they might put up on easy you know,
a chart of how the city council is misspending money,
or how much money they're spending on illegal aliens. You know,
(11:48):
a prop to show, you know, an audio or a
visual prop. No, no, no, no, no no. Their props
include all of those things, but also include American flags
in the US Constitution because the display of the American
flag or holding up like my little pocket Constitution here,
(12:12):
holding up that Constitution is apparently disruptive. The American flag
is disruptive. They banned the flag and props in general
through a local ordinance that also limits how long a
(12:32):
resident can address the city council. I can remember when
I was on a city council in Edmund, Oklahoma. At
the time that I was a city councilman in Edmund, Oklahoma,
it was the fastest growing city in Oklahoma. We were
(12:53):
approving new subdivisions and building permits and commercial development. Everything
just I mean, it was just it was the wild
wild West oil boom everything going on. It was just crazy.
We never limited the amount of time that people had
to speak. And I was in law school at the time,
(13:17):
and it was sometimes when we would have city council
meetings it seemed like they were on a Tuesday for
some reason. I had to make sure that I worked
around and that I didn't have any evening classes on
Tuesdays because city council meetings would oftentimes go past midnight.
Because we would allow people to speak their mind. Now,
(13:39):
if people got disruptive there, you know, we might at
some point, you know, gabble them down and you know,
say that, you know, take a seat, and they would
take a seat. I don't recall ever having to ask
the cop to escort somebody out of the room. But
we never limited because we felt like and by the way,
(14:01):
the mayor at the time, the reason I ended up
on the city council was one of my political science
my political science advisor happened to be the mayor, and
the mayor encouraged me to run for the city council.
So I did, and law and behold, I won, and
it was an amazing experience, one of the many amazing
(14:23):
experiences I've had in my life. But he was a
firm believer that local government, being that government closest to
the people, that we had an obligation to listen to
the citizens. What do they want? What are their concerns?
And I know that there were times when I know personally,
(14:43):
there were times when people would be droning on and
I would think to myself, you would never ever make
a good trial lawyer, You would never make a good
keynote speaker, because you don't know when to shut up.
You just kept droning on and on and on and on.
But we let them do it because they were the citizens,
(15:04):
they were the taxpayers, and they had an interest, they
had a legitimate interest in the decisions that we were
going to make on the issues that we were going
to vote on. So we allow them to speak. But
I guess we don't do that anymore. Established after a
nearly five hour long council meeting to which I yawn
(15:26):
and say bfdy had a five hour city council meeting,
a lot of residents in Edison, New Jersey, contend that
the government is attempting to stifle complaints about how their
tax dollars are being spent and are being prevented from
voicing their concerns about public safety. Mary Anne Hennessy, I
(15:50):
wonder she's in relation to let's have a drink. Hennessy
said this, to consider the American flag and the constitution
of prop When someone raises this is an insult to
what the flag is, what the flag stands for, and
what this country is for. For you to consider the
use of the American flag of prop is disgusting. Another resident,
(16:15):
Joe Bissoff, was removed from the meeting. Was physically moved
from the meeting after pulling out a small American flag
and waving.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
It American.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
The constitutional.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Orange.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
He's standing in a podium, dressed in a nice suit
and tie, white shirt. He's got his glasses on, gray haired,
older gentleman, and he has, you know, a small American
flag like you might hold at a parade, and he's
holding it up and he's slightly gestured, I mean, just
because he's using his hands to gesture. The flag's moving
(17:08):
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
He suggest there, you guys sat obtain he's a company
council ang.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
And he gets removed. Michael. The good thing about that
Edison Town council meeting, it got the attention to Scott Pressler. Yeah,
he's head in the jersey next. Uh, it's so great
to see these people finally freaking get what they deserve.
(17:55):
Somebody else a great question on the text line about
the blank pardon, and well, let me pull up the
question specifically, give number fifty eight eleven. Michael Carter granted
the blanket pardon to anyone who dodged the draft. Though
didn't he not not by name, but by category. Well
(18:16):
that's not technically correct. He issued a presidential proclamation I
don't remember what the number was, and he signed an
executive order. But in order for the pardon to take effect,
individuals had to step forward and make a claim for
(18:37):
the pardon in order to obtain the pardon, and then
they could get a certificate that indicated that you were pardoned.
So again, it was it was I know, it seems
like a trivial difference, but it's actually a significant difference.
The question earlier was what would prevent Biden from just
(19:01):
pardoning everyone who's coming to the country illegally. And my
argument is he cannot just blanket pardon everyone who came
here if he wanted to do what Carter did by
issuing a proclamation. By actually, the way I would argue
it is that Biden would be granting amnesty to all
(19:23):
of these illegal aliens the pardon because it has to
be individual. It would have to be like what Carter did,
where you issue a proclamation that says we're not going
to prosecute anybody who dodged the draft during the Vietnam War,
but you have to step forward and you have to
(19:45):
claim your pardon. You got to fill out these you've
got to go to the Department of Justice, I suppose you.
I don't know how it physically worked, but I would imagine,
just playing it through my head, that you would have
to go to a local FBI office and you would
have to present yourself and say, hello, my name is
so and so, and I ran off to Canada, or
(20:06):
I burned my draft card or I did whatever. And
under the president's proclamation, I want to apply for the
pardon that he's issued under his proclamation, and then I
suppose they would look at your application and they would
if you qualified, they would issue a certificate of pardon.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So essentially what the illegal aliens would need to do
is step forward and apply for citizenship.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah. See, this is what it's weird. It's apples and
oranges because here they're well, in both cases there are crimes.
And it's pretty easy to prove that you dodged the
draft because you had to have been drafted or burned
(20:59):
your card or escape to Canada to come to the
country illegally. At what point, because how do you prove
when is the amnesty is the pardon that Biden would
do for all time because or is he going to
set a time that says for those who came to
the country illegally up to Tuesday, December third, twenty twenty four, Well,
(21:25):
then how do you prove that? How would you prove
that you came that you didn't come here on December tenth,
you know, a week from today, So that logistically, I
just don't see how that would work. But yeah, there
was a pardon, but the pardon was not granted to
just blanket. You actually had to come and claim your
(21:48):
pardon and prove that you were a draft darger. That
happened back in like nineteen seventy seven or sometime, I think.
So that's the difference between those two. I'm going to
go back for just a moment, back to the story
about Edison, New Jersey, because why I want you to
finish hearing the audio, and.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
There is a video post that Michael says, go here doc.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Oh oh, so you can see it. Good he's producing that fascinating.
There are days when I just he fascinates me because
he actually does his job and I don't know, like
I never know what to expect. It's amazing. Some of
the residents in Edison are as they talk to the media,
(22:32):
are saying that they don't understand why the council is
punishing those living in the town at large. Again the
blanket when only a handful of individuals tend to disrupt
the meetings, Well, if you're disrupting a meeting, if you
are preventing the meeting from conducting business, well you really
(22:57):
don't need an ordinance to do that. You are there.
They are all sorts of ordinances that prohibit a that
make it unlawful to prohibit a government body from performing
its duties. Much like you know when you interfere with
with with the cop who's trying to enforce the law,
(23:19):
that that's a crime. If they want to do that,
I don't have a problem with that. Somebody shows up
and they're marching around, you know, they get there's a
group of just I don't know, three people always you know,
there's three, four or five, ten, I don't care how
many even one. And they've got a saxophone, they've got
(23:41):
a bass drum, they've got whatever they got and they're
marching around and they and they completely disrupting or they're
destroying the microphones, they're pushing over chairs or whatever. That's
a crime. And so you can be expelled from the
meeting for that difference here is they have prohibited props
(24:05):
props which is a form of free speech. If I
walk into a meeting and I've got a placard that says,
you know, down with the city council, as long as
that's not interrupting the meeting and they can still conduct
their business, I can hold my sign up, holding an
(24:27):
American flag, waiving a constitution is hardly disruptive to a
meeting unless you're offended by what those things represent or
what the placard says. And if that's the case, now
you're exercising a Heckler's veto, and I think improperly, which
(24:51):
is improper anyway, but you're you're exercising a Heckler's veto.
But the larger point is you're punishing a large group
of people because there apparently are a small group of people. One, two, three.
Other stories don't say that disrupt city council meetings. How
(25:15):
is waving a flag disruptive? Sue Malone Barber in one
of the stories says this, it's juvenile to fight this war.
You're losing. You're just making people more agitated and more determined.
To do something to provoke getting thrown out. Let it
(25:37):
go now. I love that statement because, being the passive,
aggressive person that I can be at times, that's precisely
what I would do. If you tell me if the
Denver City Council enacts an ordinance that says you cannot
bring a flag to a Denver City Council meeting, That's
(26:00):
what Booberville is going to do. We're all going to
show up the next Denver City Council meeting with American
flags and try to get our asses thrown out because
I would I would argue that that's a violation of
US forty two USC. Nineteen eighty three, that's violating my
constitutional rights to free speech. And so we'll see the
(26:20):
city in County of Denver. But think about how just
out of control all of this is. Go back, let
me finish the audio.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Hold it up an American, give you.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
The constitutional value at.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
The warning that you continue level after fort content of
your time. It's like constead of the house. You didn't
you lose my suggestions?
Speaker 3 (26:50):
You is there?
Speaker 4 (26:52):
You get second opinions a company council to be going
to do our law.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
You stop now.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I want to shame you. Okay, he's going to take
him past the organ.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Come the cops stand behind the citizen. He's trying to
make his couch.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Before your time, your position to be forfeited. You're actually
to provide these.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I did nothing disruption, I would think he challenged him.
If you are challenge by the way he's been esported
out by the.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Contract, you continued that the officer continue to sit down. Yes,
you have to be removed from these chambers.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Think of the arrogance that it takes for now. I
can say this because I've been a city councilman. Think
about the arrogance it takes for little piss ant city councilmen,
a little piss ant mayor to say you sit down
and shut up, because we're not going to allow you
to talk because you have an American flag in your hand.
(28:21):
What is this? Is this the old Soviet Union? Are
those tops the STAZI? Is that the KGB? Or is
that the FSB? Now? Is he now marked simply for
expressing his opinion to people who sought elected office and
serve at the will of the taxpayers, at the will
(28:44):
of the citizens of that town Edison, New Jersey. And
we're allowing this to go on in this country. Shame
on us, absolutely, shamele us. I was raised in the
generation that said that they would give me something to
right about if I didn't stop crying. I remember that
line too. Dragon just gave a fist up.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yes, yep, you want something to.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Cry about, I'll give you something to cry about. Some
of the other don't push me, don't push me. But
I never got the I never got the wait till
your father gets home. Nope. Mom didn't need to wait
for dad to get home. Mom would take care of
it right.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
She could lay down the law on herself. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Do you remember those little ping pong paddles that had
the rubber ball attached by rubber band, And that was
the paddle that my mom had, not without the little
ball on it.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
We had a texture earlier, and I'm not sure I
could find it relatively quickly. But he said every time
Mom would start reaching for her purse. Oh yeah, I
saw that straighten up because apparently there's a wooden spoon.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
In the purse.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I hated that paddle. I hated that battle. Did you
ever get a paddling in school?
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Not from school?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
No, at home, I'm sure, but not never at school
because I was late eighties, so I think it died
off by that.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Oh yeah, I got I got paddled twice, both times
by the band teacher. Ask me why, I have no
clue why. I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure. And it
wasn't just me, it was It was never just me.
It was always at least one, if not two other
(30:32):
guys that got the paddling. And it would be Mike, Michael,
Edward David to my office, and we knew and we
knew what was coming. We knew it was coming. You
deserved it, though, and we knew we deserved it, and
we and quite honestly, we didn't care. Now, probably the
(30:56):
first time we cared because we didn't know whether or
not mom and Dad would learn about it. But once
we figured out that, well he's gonna paddle us, but
he's not gonna tell our parents, well then we didn't
carry any more.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, yeah, it's like, okay, well if they did tell
my parents that I get paddling twice, right, and probably get.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Grounded too, So that's that's that was the double whammy.
But once once I think both those band teachers are
now deceased, but at least, I would hope. So you
that were there one hundred and twenty five years old,
so good grief. And they padded the two different band leaders,
(31:38):
but band teachers. Each paddled differently. One was just a good,
one strong wap and the other one was like you know,
three quick WAPs.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Now, did their paddles have holes in the paddle?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
So they No, they were just solid, solid and each
because they both had their own office and they both
had their own paddles. Of course, now think about that,
think about just having and it was prominently hung in
their office. You couldn't go to the office without seeing
the paddle. It's like, you know, you, it's like if
(32:13):
I pulled out a gun and just laid a gun
here on the console and anytime anybody came in to
bug me while I'm doing the show, which you know
is the one thing that drives me crazy is people
coming in to talk to me in the middle of
a program and me just kind of reaching over and
just kind of slowly moving the gun over toward toward
the door. You walk in and you saw that paddle
(32:34):
and you knew, oh crap, hold it, yeah, can't do
that today? Can you maybe that's part of our problem.
You know, I could, I could sound like a really
old fart here. You take prayer out of school, you
don't say the pledge of allegiance, you don't learn about civics,
(32:54):
and nobody gets paddled for anything.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
As much as it sucks, pain is a fantastic teacher.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Yeah, and then when you get to be our age dragon,
we actually engage in pain because we think it's good
for us. True. I see your posts about how many
calories you've burned and all that, and you know what
I think about when I see that, it hurts. It hurts.
(33:23):
I think about you know, I saw something about aging
the other day and people complaining about getting out of
bed and making you start making noises. When you get
to be my agent and you get out of bed.
I think I may have mentioned one of the programs
about a video showing older people, and I guess everybody,
(33:44):
I'm just older people how to property get out of bed.
I didn't know there's a proper way. I just got up.
I just you know, I sat up in the bed
and put my feal floor and stood up. Well, apparently
that's wrong. You can go there's a proper way to
get out of bed, stay on your side, kick your
feet over, push yourself up, stand up,
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