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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Michael I seem to recall a book that was written
by one Robert Work. I believe it was called Slouching
towards Gomora. We are not slouching anymore. We are double
backflipping and diving with glee into Gomora with all this
transgender stuff. Kids should not be allowed to mutilate themselves.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I think that.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I think you're right, and.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Doctors shouldn't be allowed to perform the surgeries either. I
don't think this is a psychiatric problem. It's truly a
psychiatric problem.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
Would you do the same thing if a child said, Hey,
I know I have two eyes, but I really feel
like I should only have one.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Can we remove one of them?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
So you have a male or a female dog, and
you knew to the dog the dog is still a
male or female, right, yes? Yeah, Then there's this text message,
and I have to met this text message. It doesn't
hit home. Don't mean, I don't mean it that way,
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but it I'd be curious what you think. So forty
four sixteen, writes Michael His. Because I refer to the
lawyer as him or his or whatever. So the text
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reads Michael His. Really, you're buying into the psychosis too,
I mean, you are very careful to say illegal aliens
or illegal immigrants instead of migrants, because it is correct
linguistically and legally. Why not call the women dressed as
a man a woman, or to be respectful if you
(01:53):
choose to individual instead of specifying a gender.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Hmm. Interesting.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
You can go watch that video. It's that Michael says,
go here dot com right now and up until will
be PC, up until they speak. They put on a
very convincing male look.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Very convincing. Yes, uh might be a well not even
maybe a little effeminist, but not really a feminist.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Small nothing where you would go flaming right. But I
the whole linguistic thing, because words really do matter to me.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I confess I don't know what to call them.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
So he is that is a woman who has and
think about what I'm about to say. I don't even
think about what I'm about to say is correct. He
goes back to the dog, goes back to the dog.
I all my dogs are neutered. They still have female names,
(03:07):
and we still you know. And I often will text
Hammer and say, hey, I'm gonna take the girls to
the dog park today, or I'm taking the girls to
McDonald's for breakfast or something. But because of my mind,
there's still girls now with respect to this guy. And
again I would encourage you to go watch the video
(03:29):
at Michael says, go here dot com.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
What am I supposed to say? Because it is.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
It is mentally confusing and disruptive to my train of
thought as I am looking at and talking about an
individual to stop and say in my brain, Okay, was
this a man that is pretending to be a woman?
A woman pretending to be a man? And I've got
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a first I first have to ascertain that when I
first saw this video Dragon, I wasn't sure what I
was looking at. I didn't know if it was really
just a guy with a funny voice or whether it
was a woman that had decided to be To see,
I can't even say to become a man because she
has not become a man. She has transitioned to appear
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as a man. So what is the language linguistically? I know,
PC what you're supposed to say, I'm supposed to I'm
supposed to call him him?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Would would I? Look? It's a hymn.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
The only the only reason I knew factually that it
was a trans individual despite the voice everything else. I
I know, I know guy, I know guys in this
building who have very effeminate voices. I don't know that
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there are actually men except they use the men's restroom.
I what so you tell me forty four sixteen? I
guess you did. Why not call the woman dresses a
man a woman? Well, if the woman, it just goes
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back to the dog. If the woman has had her
breast removed, she's had a double massedectomy. Have you ever
seen photos? Seriously, have you ever seen photos? I've not
trying to be perverted here, but I have truly dug
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around looking for photos of the person who has transitioned
one direction or the other to see what it looks like.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
And it is absolutely bizarro. It is.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Mutilation is the only where I can come up with
that I think is a perfect descriptor. The bodies have
been mutilated both externally and internally.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
So it is.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
To Dragon's point, they or z or z or whatever
whatever those words are.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Let me tell you where else I fall down on
this whole issue about linguistically, what do we do? I
don't care because I don't want to spend any brain
cells every time I pull up a story about this,
trying to figure out, Okay, which words should I use?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Is that he or she? Is that they? Or them?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (06:57):
You know, I don't have time to that bull crap.
But here's a guy who And again I challenge you.
You go look at the video. You know, here, here's
what here's the real challenge I would offer you. I
know you've already heard it, but if you've not seen
it yet, turn your volume all the way down, mute,
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mute your computer and watch and you'll think, oh, this
that's just some at least I don't know dragon. If
you mute it and watch, to me, it would just
appear to be a somewhat effeminate, kind of.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Similar looking smaller man.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's what it looks like to me, right,
And then you hear the voice.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
And then you're like, he's got one of the pencil goate's.
You know, there's a certainly a definite mustache, definite.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Little beard go tee.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
I mean it's it's there, maybe even some little chin
strap stuff going on, but you know, yeah, convincing.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Very much so. And I think this is correct too.
Forty four sixty seven off the subjects of the linguistics,
but forty four sixty seven rights. I don't think we
have decades of data WRT, key dragon, how won know
what WRT means? I love it when they have to
put in your parentheses with respect to in case you
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don't know that shorthand.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
How old do you think I am?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Appreciate it?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
That's just how if and old do you think I am?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
I get it, you know, I use texts all the time.
I don't think we have decades of data with with
regard to with respect to minors and these surgeries, Nor
do I believe that any of the data thoroughly looks
at those who do not receive this treatment and compare
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how those individuals fare. And I would say to complete
the sentence, how those individuals fare as they go beyond puberty,
go beyond you know, the age of eighteen, and turn
into young adults, or for that matter, turn into middle
aged individuals.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
How do they do?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
This is this is what bothers me about this entire subject.
This is a and this is why I feel sorry
for gay people too, because the LGB has been hijacked
by the.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
T and whatever else? What other letters follow to.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Gays are uh you know, gays fought and got their rights,
and so now they've been taken over by something that
is Look, gays don't have to mutilate their bodies to
be gay. They don't. Now they may have to contort
to do certain things, but that's separate apart from mutilating
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your body. I think we're.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Not we.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I think the culture is making way too big of
a deal out of something that affects probably less less
than one percent of the entire population. And while I
believe in minority rights, and I believe that we need
to respect minority rights, we still have majority rule. And
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by that I mean we do not give up and
we do not upend the complete utter mores moral code, standards, whatever,
however you want to describe it. For something that's less
than one percent of the population, there's not Organizations don't
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even do that. Corporate structures in informal groups of individuals
other than husbands and wives who always capitulate to where
the wife wants to go eat because you just want
to go through the argument about well I don't care, well, okay,
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then si here, No, I don't want to go there.
That's where we capitulate. Otherwise we just don't capitulate. So
I understand the linguistic problem. What's this, Michael oversimplify? This
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is eighty thirty Michael oversimplified fixed for transgender bathrooms. No
Adams Apple allowed in female facilities. Well, you know, I
might agree with that, but sometimes men's Adams Apples aren't
always that distinct, so that's questionable too. Or twenty two
to ninety three, Mike, I say, quote presenting or presents
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as a man.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Well that might be good, but am I really going
to add.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
One, two, three, four, five six words when I really
just need one word? So this guy talking to Jake
Jake Tapper, sorry, say Jake camer Jake Tapper is well,
how would do that? The individual presenting or presents as
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a man. Well, okay, there's gotta there's gotta be uh
eighty eight seventy seven Farmers have taken care of any
of the arguments about gender. I saw a post that said,
go milk that bull over there and tell me what
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the gender is. Sixty sixty six, Mike, if you neutered
your dogs, they must have been trans female dogs to
start with.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
To spade your dogs spaes for female neuters for male.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Oh, okay, all right, got it?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Tato tomato is sure.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Forty four to sixty seven Mike, how about cutting? Are
we okay with that despite the permanent scarring because the
minor insists it's legitimate coping.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
See, I'm just not.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I just.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
It goes to my point with the whole eyeball thing. Hey,
I think I really should only have one eyeball. We
need to pluck out the other.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Right And you know what, I was born or however,
ended up right handed, so I use my right hand
for virtually everything, so I should just eliminate this other
appendage over here on the left side just kind of
flops around and gets in the way. Let's just eliminate that.
Or you know, your little toe. Do you really need
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that little toe to balance your feet?
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Considering the shoes in the coffee table, all that little
toe is good for is hitting that coffee table exactly right?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Or the frustration in trying to trim the toenail on
the little toenail, that that's a pain in the ass
right there, So nobody wants to do that either. Golly,
how we get off on some of this stuff simply
amazes me.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Talkbacks, stupid message, stupid talkbacks.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
We need we just need to get rid of the
talk about That's right, it's all your fault.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Uh So the leftist.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Bigots that are usually featured over on MSNBC and who
obviously infect IV League schools compliments of DEI. They're all
compliments of DEI sure don't like white people, to judge
from the chief resident of Yale's prestigious Albert J. Seynett
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Integrated Adult Child's psychiatric Program. I don't know, but the
name is Amanda Calhoun, you see now when you tell
me the name is Amanda Calhoun, I haven't seen a photo.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Is Amanda a what a man pretending to be a woman?
God who knows? Nobody knows anymore? We get they're no,
there are no guardrails. Doctor Calhoun advises all of the
students to cut ties with family members if they voted
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for Donald Trump. Now, despite what is apparently an obvious
racist attitude, she am to be married to a white guy.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Now. He again, I don't know. Maybe they're really lesbians,
but maybe they're maybe they're.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Two trans lesbians. Thinking I could make this so complicated.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Uh he is presuming presumably.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Of the gelotinous white dudes for Harris type, contend to
subsist under her heel. In a twenty twenty two X thread,
Amanda Calhoun said that she and her husband left our
hometown because white neighbors would meet my husband and I
together and then straight up ignore me when I greeted
them as if I was alone. As a result, Calhoun wrote,
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she requires her husband's white acquaintances to meet and greet
her first before befriending them. So my husband dropped a
lot of white friends and acquaintances he doesn't prevent does
not befriend white folks now unless they meet me first
and respect me. This woman is the chief resident at
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the Yale Adult Child Psychiatric Program. I'd say she probably
needs to be a patient at the psychiatric program. She
screeches that white therapists are not qualified to treat black patients.
Calhoun's chief resident status at Yale, home to one of
the highest ranking psychiatric programs in the entire world, reflects
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the proliferation of left wing activism within America's top medical schools.
Old fec Sherlock really neither Yale, nor MSNBC, or any
other establishment institution would tolerate that brand of over the
top bigotry if the race was reversed, and that fact
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alone debunks their ideology, which is truthfully founded upon this
imaginary oppression of blacks and the privilege of whites. It's
time to get rid of race. In fact, I've been
making notes about a topic about getting rid of race,
Branny for someone that doesn't want to burn up brain
cells over this.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
You sure are having a bonfire.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
And the bonfire is just about to turn into a
raging forest fire.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Yeah, let's face it, the only brain power you've got
could maybe do a sparkler.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
An old sparkler that just has a little bit left
on the end.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Done.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
I'm going to read you an email in just a minute,
but to set up the email along the same subject line,
I want to go to the text line first fifty
four thirty one, Michael. I hope the left someday realizes
how much damage they have done to the people who
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actually deal with genderness. For you, you can be assured
that all of this attention and the hate that has
come from it is not appreciated. Uh kind of Funny's
sixteen oh three, Michael, let's gi at the anorexiks hyposection. Yeah,
that's really about how stupid this is. Ninety three oh seven. Michael,
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you said that you don't like to think about this
subject at all, and neither do I, except for one
very important thing. I am a woman and I have
a daughter, and I don't like to think about her
having to go into a restroom with a man pretending
to be a woman in there with her, or sports
or locker rooms, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So
I think about it a lot. I think about it
a lot. I guess it just depends on what sex
you are. You know, the thing about men in restrooms,
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Let's draw a distinction between someone who is cross dressing.
That's the word cross dressing. A man cross dressing as
a woman, he still has a penis. I got a
serious problem with that, because the penis is the problem. Well,
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the brains is a problem, but the penis is the
appendage which creates the problem. But a man who has
air quote here transitioned into female by having his testicles
and his penis removed and through the miracle of plastic
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surgery out of vagina created I don't know if that's
necessarily a physical threat to your daughter or to women.
I still think it's a problem in terms of sports
because nothing has changed the physical nature, the inner physical nature,
the hormones and all of that, other than he's had
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what did somebody told me?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
You say it.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Rush used to call it an ad addict toomy or something.
So yeah, this this, this is very complex. And then
I get this email. It's a legitimate email from a listener.
Will not use his name. I will tell you that
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this individual is a licensed psychologist and has a PhD.
That's all you need to know. I'm glad you're talking
about this issue, and it needs to continue to be
discussed with lots of questions asked. And one of the
things that is a big issue is that if you're
a healthcare provider, as this individual obviously is, and you're
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not prepared to be crucified, you have got to keep
your mouth shut on this issue. Just that alone tells
you how wrong this must be. If the left, I
maybe I shouldn't even say the left, if the advocates
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of this are so threatened by someone questioning it that
you're afraid to speak up, and legitimately so because you
could use you could lose your license, you could end
up in front of the medical board. They should tell
you a lot about this entire subject. See, I'm not
threatened by it because what the bar Association is going
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to come after me because I talk about transgenderism in
a way that makes people uncomfortable, Well, bite my ass
I don't care. But the continues, Well, let me tell
you that that lawyer that we listened to in the
last segment saying that they have good studies showing five
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to six years follow up, let's just assume that is true.
The problem is, there's a well done study in the
Netherlands that shows adults who had these procedures done at
ten years post transition. And this psychologist defines a ten
year post transition meaning that they had at least one
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surgical procedure and or at least one pharmacological treatment. So
to go back, the problem is, there's a well done
study in the Netherlands that shows that adults who had
these procedures done, These people had nineteen times the average
rate of suicide attempts over the general public, nineteen times
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the suicide rate. He continues, I work in a profession
where we have one of the highest suicide rates at
five times the national average. They're going to argue and
always have that allowing this quote, gender affirming care prevents suicide.
They cannot prove that with studies limited to five to
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six years of follow up, and he explains why, and
this is important. Their arguments against studies that have been
done prior to ten years ago, before this became a
dig deal, before this became a big deal, that showed
that eighty five percent of people who questioned their gender
had resolved that by early adulth adulthood around the ages
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of twenty to twenty five. Let me repeat that they
cannot prove that with studies limited to five to six
years of follow up, because their arguments against these studies
that had been done prior to ten years ago, before
this became a big deal, showed that eighty five percent
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of people who question their gender had resolved that questioning
by early adulthood around ages twenty to twenty five. Bingo,
It ignores the individual rights, It ignores decades of developmental
research that shows that shadows or that shows that people
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don't have a lot of their identity, including all aspects
of identity and not just stuff focused on sexual orientation
and sexual identity, that those those studies show that we
don't have and have not solidified our identity until our
early twenties. So how can somebody make a decision prior
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to eighteen about things that are.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Not yet resolved?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
But if you raise those questions, you are labeled a
transphobic person, the doctor writes, and as a Christ following
person and professional who believes that with the world population
of eight billion people, we have eight billion unique creations
and reflections of God in this world, and that each
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person is so unique, and there's so much about each
person that most of us don't even understand yet all
of it is valuable. So my question, he writes, to people,
is why change something that you don't yet understand. I
think eighteen years old now it's easy for me to
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say that at the age of eighteen, I knew I
wanted to go.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
To law school.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
But you know what's interesting about me wanting to.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Go to law school.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
I practiced law for I don't know fifteen twenty years,
got sick of it, decided I really didn't like it
as much as I did. Oh, I value my law
school education. You might legal experience, but I have zero
desire to be a lawyer again, none whatsoever. In fact,
you know, I get my renewal every year to renew
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my Colorado Bar Association license. I thought it in the
trash every year every year, just totally ignore it because
I have no intention whatsoever practice ever practicing law Again,
he continues, My question to people is why change something
you don't yet understand. If you don't see all the
different things about you that are valuable and they're unique,
how do you know that changing this one set of
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things about your sexual physical characteristics is not going to
detract from your from your uniqueness, rather than add to it.
In a statement of obviously, master of the obvious statement,
he says, this is a this is highly complex stuff.
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We talk about identity now, we talk about cultural competence.
See and cultural identity. We have identified I never knew this. We,
meaning the psychologists and psychiatrists of the world, have identified
thirty nine factors and cultural and cultural identity. And all
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of those factors can be ranked differently. And when you
use a thing called combinant combin combinatories combinatories, that means
there's about one hundred and twenty seven million different possibilities
of how all those factors can interplay. And this is
just on cultural identity. I can't even understand my own
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cultural identity with that many factors at play. Yet bringing
up these issues would bring a firestorm into my life,
and I'm not prepared and I'm not prepared to do
that yet. Yeah, I don't like to think about this,
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but that and again maybe it's confirmation bias. All I
know is this is a listener whom I believe probably
has come from the national program, who now listens or
maybe they used to live here and have moved somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Doesn't make any difference, But I have a name, and
I've googled the name and validated the credentials and highly
respected and very well known pointing out things that thirty
nine factors they go into our cultural identity, and every
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one of those factors can be ranked differently and using combinatories.
That means there's about one hundred and twenty seven million
different possibilities of how all those factors can interplay. And
that's just on cultural ideas, let alone your sexual preferences,
your religious identity, your racial identity, every kind of identity
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that we have and a break identity.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Come on, Michael, A woman dressed as a man is
a she he.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
A man dressed as a woman is a he she
gross of balls.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
That must be Gouber number fifteen sixty, who wrote, Mike,
now think about me trying to as fast as I
talk and spit fire things on this program. Imagine me
doing what Guber number fifteen sixty recommends, Mike.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
He she for man.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Pretending to be woman, she he for woman pretending to
be man. They all need professional help. I would need
professional help. I would need like hypnosis of some sort
so that my brain would to madically calculate and spit
out he she Now is that a man pretending to
be a woman? Is that a woman pretending to be
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a man? And if it's the former, that's he she
And if it's the ladal.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
That's she e.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
And I just like to point out these numbers and
just give out friendly reminders that according to the NIH,
the suicide attempt rate for transgender perch persons ranges anywhere
from thirty two percent to fifty percent.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Fifty percent almost averages, so on the upper end, half
of those who go through this end up committing suicide
and I'm a great tempt I'm a.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Big fan of comparables here. So I went to the
American Foundation for Suicide Prevention and their numbers for adults
attempting suicide is zero point six percent.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
So barely half a percentage point.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
But now let's think about this.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
They're this population, so.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
This population meeting.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Now, Now the zero point six percent is of the
US population. Correct, So that's three hundred and fifty plus
million America. Correct, So zero point six percent of those
attempt suicide or commit.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Suicide at a range of up to fifty percent. No, no,
excuse me, Yeah, my apologies, I got that.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Yeah right, So less less than one percent of the
population at large. So this big bucket of people zero
point six correct. Now narrow that big bucket of people
down to one percent that are transgender, and half of
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that small group attempts.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Or commits suicide.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Correct, And you I'm supposed to be accepting of this,
uh twenty six to fifty Michael. Remember the woman who chose.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
To be blind? I think we did the think maybe
you brought that story to me one time. Dragon.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
We don't consider that saying in the culture yet, do we?
Where does it end? Cbsnews dot com Los Angeles news
woman blinds herself on purpose with drain cleaner.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
One last point, going back to the email. At the
end of the email, the doctor writes, yet, bringing up
these issues would bring a firestorm into my life, and
I'm not prepared to do that yet. But I am
seriously thinking of getting my career and my life into
a place that I could at least tolerate it if
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I got lamb basted and had my license removed from me.
But my silence is grieving me but entering into these battles,
whether it's stating that there are other cheaper and safer
ways to handle viruses like COVID, or there's other ways
besides the establishments gender affirming ways to help people gendrite
inity issues is not for the A thane of heart,
Michael I seem to recall a book that was written
by one Robert Work. I believe it was called Slouching
towards Gomora. We are not slouching anymore. We are double
backflipping and diving with glee into Gomora with all this
transgender stuff. Kids should not be allowed to mutilate themselves.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I think that.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I think you're right, and.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Doctors shouldn't be allowed to perform the surgeries either. I
don't think this is a psychiatric problem. It's truly a
psychiatric problem.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
Would you do the same thing if a child said, Hey,
I know I have two eyes, but I really feel
like I should only have one.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Can we remove one of them?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
So you have a male or a female dog, and
you knew to the dog the dog is still a
male or female, right, yes? Yeah, Then there's this text message,
and I have to met this text message. It doesn't
hit home. Don't mean, I don't mean it that way,
(01:11):
but it I'd be curious what you think. So forty
four sixteen, writes Michael His. Because I refer to the
lawyer as him or his or whatever. So the text
(01:32):
reads Michael His. Really, you're buying into the psychosis too,
I mean, you are very careful to say illegal aliens
or illegal immigrants instead of migrants, because it is correct
linguistically and legally. Why not call the women dressed as
a man a woman, or to be respectful if you
(01:53):
choose to individual instead of specifying a gender.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Hmm. Interesting.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
You can go watch that video. It's that Michael says,
go here dot com right now and up until will
be PC, up until they speak. They put on a
very convincing male look.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Very convincing. Yes, uh might be a well not even
maybe a little effeminist, but not really a feminist.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Small nothing where you would go flaming right. But I
the whole linguistic thing, because words really do matter to me.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I confess I don't know what to call them.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
So he is that is a woman who has and
think about what I'm about to say. I don't even
think about what I'm about to say is correct. He
goes back to the dog, goes back to the dog.
I all my dogs are neutered. They still have female names,
(03:07):
and we still you know. And I often will text
Hammer and say, hey, I'm gonna take the girls to
the dog park today, or I'm taking the girls to
McDonald's for breakfast or something. But because of my mind,
there's still girls now with respect to this guy. And
again I would encourage you to go watch the video
(03:29):
at Michael says, go here dot com.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
What am I supposed to say? Because it is.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
It is mentally confusing and disruptive to my train of
thought as I am looking at and talking about an
individual to stop and say in my brain, Okay, was
this a man that is pretending to be a woman?
A woman pretending to be a man? And I've got
(04:00):
a first I first have to ascertain that when I
first saw this video Dragon, I wasn't sure what I
was looking at. I didn't know if it was really
just a guy with a funny voice or whether it
was a woman that had decided to be To see,
I can't even say to become a man because she
has not become a man. She has transitioned to appear
(04:26):
as a man. So what is the language linguistically? I know,
PC what you're supposed to say, I'm supposed to I'm
supposed to call him him?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Would would I? Look? It's a hymn.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
The only the only reason I knew factually that it
was a trans individual despite the voice everything else. I
I know, I know guy, I know guys in this
building who have very effeminate voices. I don't know that
(05:07):
there are actually men except they use the men's restroom.
I what so you tell me forty four sixteen? I
guess you did. Why not call the woman dresses a
man a woman? Well, if the woman, it just goes
(05:35):
back to the dog. If the woman has had her
breast removed, she's had a double massedectomy. Have you ever
seen photos? Seriously, have you ever seen photos? I've not
trying to be perverted here, but I have truly dug
(05:55):
around looking for photos of the person who has transitioned
one direction or the other to see what it looks like.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
And it is absolutely bizarro. It is.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Mutilation is the only where I can come up with
that I think is a perfect descriptor. The bodies have
been mutilated both externally and internally.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
So it is.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
To Dragon's point, they or z or z or whatever
whatever those words are.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Let me tell you where else I fall down on
this whole issue about linguistically, what do we do? I
don't care because I don't want to spend any brain
cells every time I pull up a story about this,
trying to figure out, Okay, which words should I use?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Is that he or she? Is that they? Or them?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (06:57):
You know, I don't have time to that bull crap.
But here's a guy who And again I challenge you.
You go look at the video. You know, here, here's
what here's the real challenge I would offer you. I
know you've already heard it, but if you've not seen
it yet, turn your volume all the way down, mute,
(07:17):
mute your computer and watch and you'll think, oh, this
that's just some at least I don't know dragon. If
you mute it and watch, to me, it would just
appear to be a somewhat effeminate, kind of.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Similar looking smaller man.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's what it looks like to me, right,
And then you hear the voice.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
And then you're like, he's got one of the pencil goate's.
You know, there's a certainly a definite mustache, definite.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Little beard go tee.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
I mean it's it's there, maybe even some little chin
strap stuff going on, but you know, yeah, convincing.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Very much so. And I think this is correct too.
Forty four sixty seven off the subjects of the linguistics,
but forty four sixty seven rights. I don't think we
have decades of data WRT, key dragon, how won know
what WRT means? I love it when they have to
put in your parentheses with respect to in case you
(08:19):
don't know that shorthand.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
How old do you think I am?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Appreciate it?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
That's just how if and old do you think I am?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
I get it, you know, I use texts all the time.
I don't think we have decades of data with with
regard to with respect to minors and these surgeries, Nor
do I believe that any of the data thoroughly looks
at those who do not receive this treatment and compare
(08:47):
how those individuals fare. And I would say to complete
the sentence, how those individuals fare as they go beyond puberty,
go beyond you know, the age of eighteen, and turn
into young adults, or for that matter, turn into middle
aged individuals.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
How do they do?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
This is this is what bothers me about this entire subject.
This is a and this is why I feel sorry
for gay people too, because the LGB has been hijacked
by the.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
T and whatever else? What other letters follow to.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Gays are uh you know, gays fought and got their rights,
and so now they've been taken over by something that
is Look, gays don't have to mutilate their bodies to
be gay. They don't. Now they may have to contort
to do certain things, but that's separate apart from mutilating
(09:47):
your body. I think we're.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Not we.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I think the culture is making way too big of
a deal out of something that affects probably less less
than one percent of the entire population. And while I
believe in minority rights, and I believe that we need
to respect minority rights, we still have majority rule. And
(10:16):
by that I mean we do not give up and
we do not upend the complete utter mores moral code, standards, whatever,
however you want to describe it. For something that's less
than one percent of the population, there's not Organizations don't
(10:36):
even do that. Corporate structures in informal groups of individuals
other than husbands and wives who always capitulate to where
the wife wants to go eat because you just want
to go through the argument about well I don't care, well, okay,
(10:59):
then si here, No, I don't want to go there.
That's where we capitulate. Otherwise we just don't capitulate. So
I understand the linguistic problem. What's this, Michael oversimplify? This
(11:20):
is eighty thirty Michael oversimplified fixed for transgender bathrooms. No
Adams Apple allowed in female facilities. Well, you know, I
might agree with that, but sometimes men's Adams Apples aren't
always that distinct, so that's questionable too. Or twenty two
to ninety three, Mike, I say, quote presenting or presents
(11:43):
as a man.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Well that might be good, but am I really going
to add.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
One, two, three, four, five six words when I really
just need one word? So this guy talking to Jake
Jake Tapper, sorry, say Jake camer Jake Tapper is well,
how would do that? The individual presenting or presents as
(12:13):
a man. Well, okay, there's gotta there's gotta be uh
eighty eight seventy seven Farmers have taken care of any
of the arguments about gender. I saw a post that said,
go milk that bull over there and tell me what
(12:34):
the gender is. Sixty sixty six, Mike, if you neutered
your dogs, they must have been trans female dogs to
start with.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
To spade your dogs spaes for female neuters for male.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Oh, okay, all right, got it?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Tato tomato is sure.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Forty four to sixty seven Mike, how about cutting? Are
we okay with that despite the permanent scarring because the
minor insists it's legitimate coping.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
See, I'm just not.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I just.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
It goes to my point with the whole eyeball thing. Hey,
I think I really should only have one eyeball. We
need to pluck out the other.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Right And you know what, I was born or however,
ended up right handed, so I use my right hand
for virtually everything, so I should just eliminate this other
appendage over here on the left side just kind of
flops around and gets in the way. Let's just eliminate that.
Or you know, your little toe. Do you really need
(13:46):
that little toe to balance your feet?
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Considering the shoes in the coffee table, all that little
toe is good for is hitting that coffee table exactly right?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Or the frustration in trying to trim the toenail on
the little toenail, that that's a pain in the ass
right there, So nobody wants to do that either. Golly,
how we get off on some of this stuff simply
amazes me.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Talkbacks, stupid message, stupid talkbacks.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
We need we just need to get rid of the
talk about That's right, it's all your fault.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Uh So the leftist.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Bigots that are usually featured over on MSNBC and who
obviously infect IV League schools compliments of DEI. They're all
compliments of DEI sure don't like white people, to judge
from the chief resident of Yale's prestigious Albert J. Seynett
(14:40):
Integrated Adult Child's psychiatric Program. I don't know, but the
name is Amanda Calhoun, you see now when you tell
me the name is Amanda Calhoun, I haven't seen a photo.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Is Amanda a what a man pretending to be a woman?
God who knows? Nobody knows anymore? We get they're no,
there are no guardrails. Doctor Calhoun advises all of the
students to cut ties with family members if they voted
(15:17):
for Donald Trump. Now, despite what is apparently an obvious
racist attitude, she am to be married to a white guy.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Now. He again, I don't know. Maybe they're really lesbians,
but maybe they're maybe they're.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Two trans lesbians. Thinking I could make this so complicated.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Uh he is presuming presumably.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Of the gelotinous white dudes for Harris type, contend to
subsist under her heel. In a twenty twenty two X thread,
Amanda Calhoun said that she and her husband left our
hometown because white neighbors would meet my husband and I
together and then straight up ignore me when I greeted
them as if I was alone. As a result, Calhoun wrote,
(16:05):
she requires her husband's white acquaintances to meet and greet
her first before befriending them. So my husband dropped a
lot of white friends and acquaintances he doesn't prevent does
not befriend white folks now unless they meet me first
and respect me. This woman is the chief resident at
(16:32):
the Yale Adult Child Psychiatric Program. I'd say she probably
needs to be a patient at the psychiatric program. She
screeches that white therapists are not qualified to treat black patients.
Calhoun's chief resident status at Yale, home to one of
the highest ranking psychiatric programs in the entire world, reflects
(16:55):
the proliferation of left wing activism within America's top medical schools.
Old fec Sherlock really neither Yale, nor MSNBC, or any
other establishment institution would tolerate that brand of over the
top bigotry if the race was reversed, and that fact
(17:16):
alone debunks their ideology, which is truthfully founded upon this
imaginary oppression of blacks and the privilege of whites. It's
time to get rid of race. In fact, I've been
making notes about a topic about getting rid of race,
Branny for someone that doesn't want to burn up brain
cells over this.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
You sure are having a bonfire.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
And the bonfire is just about to turn into a
raging forest fire.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Yeah, let's face it, the only brain power you've got
could maybe do a sparkler.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
An old sparkler that just has a little bit left
on the end.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Done.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
I'm going to read you an email in just a minute,
but to set up the email along the same subject line,
I want to go to the text line first fifty
four thirty one, Michael. I hope the left someday realizes
how much damage they have done to the people who
(18:24):
actually deal with genderness. For you, you can be assured
that all of this attention and the hate that has
come from it is not appreciated. Uh kind of Funny's
sixteen oh three, Michael, let's gi at the anorexiks hyposection. Yeah,
that's really about how stupid this is. Ninety three oh seven. Michael,
(18:44):
you said that you don't like to think about this
subject at all, and neither do I, except for one
very important thing. I am a woman and I have
a daughter, and I don't like to think about her
having to go into a restroom with a man pretending
to be a woman in there with her, or sports
or locker rooms, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So
I think about it a lot. I think about it
a lot. I guess it just depends on what sex
you are. You know, the thing about men in restrooms,
(19:12):
Let's draw a distinction between someone who is cross dressing.
That's the word cross dressing. A man cross dressing as
a woman, he still has a penis. I got a
serious problem with that, because the penis is the problem. Well,
(19:37):
the brains is a problem, but the penis is the
appendage which creates the problem. But a man who has
air quote here transitioned into female by having his testicles
and his penis removed and through the miracle of plastic
(19:57):
surgery out of vagina created I don't know if that's
necessarily a physical threat to your daughter or to women.
I still think it's a problem in terms of sports
because nothing has changed the physical nature, the inner physical nature,
the hormones and all of that, other than he's had
(20:18):
what did somebody told me?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
You say it.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Rush used to call it an ad addict toomy or something.
So yeah, this this, this is very complex. And then
I get this email. It's a legitimate email from a listener.
Will not use his name. I will tell you that
(20:40):
this individual is a licensed psychologist and has a PhD.
That's all you need to know. I'm glad you're talking
about this issue, and it needs to continue to be
discussed with lots of questions asked. And one of the
things that is a big issue is that if you're
a healthcare provider, as this individual obviously is, and you're
(21:04):
not prepared to be crucified, you have got to keep
your mouth shut on this issue. Just that alone tells
you how wrong this must be. If the left, I
maybe I shouldn't even say the left, if the advocates
(21:26):
of this are so threatened by someone questioning it that
you're afraid to speak up, and legitimately so because you
could use you could lose your license, you could end
up in front of the medical board. They should tell
you a lot about this entire subject. See, I'm not
threatened by it because what the bar Association is going
(21:51):
to come after me because I talk about transgenderism in
a way that makes people uncomfortable, Well, bite my ass
I don't care. But the continues, Well, let me tell
you that that lawyer that we listened to in the
last segment saying that they have good studies showing five
(22:12):
to six years follow up, let's just assume that is true.
The problem is, there's a well done study in the
Netherlands that shows adults who had these procedures done at
ten years post transition. And this psychologist defines a ten
year post transition meaning that they had at least one
(22:35):
surgical procedure and or at least one pharmacological treatment. So
to go back, the problem is, there's a well done
study in the Netherlands that shows that adults who had
these procedures done, These people had nineteen times the average
rate of suicide attempts over the general public, nineteen times
(23:02):
the suicide rate. He continues, I work in a profession
where we have one of the highest suicide rates at
five times the national average. They're going to argue and
always have that allowing this quote, gender affirming care prevents suicide.
They cannot prove that with studies limited to five to
(23:24):
six years of follow up, and he explains why, and
this is important. Their arguments against studies that have been
done prior to ten years ago, before this became a
dig deal, before this became a big deal, that showed
that eighty five percent of people who questioned their gender
had resolved that by early adulth adulthood around the ages
(23:47):
of twenty to twenty five. Let me repeat that they
cannot prove that with studies limited to five to six
years of follow up, because their arguments against these studies
that had been done prior to ten years ago, before
this became a big deal, showed that eighty five percent
(24:08):
of people who question their gender had resolved that questioning
by early adulthood around ages twenty to twenty five. Bingo,
It ignores the individual rights, It ignores decades of developmental
research that shows that shadows or that shows that people
(24:31):
don't have a lot of their identity, including all aspects
of identity and not just stuff focused on sexual orientation
and sexual identity, that those those studies show that we
don't have and have not solidified our identity until our
early twenties. So how can somebody make a decision prior
(24:52):
to eighteen about things that are.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Not yet resolved?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
But if you raise those questions, you are labeled a
transphobic person, the doctor writes, and as a Christ following
person and professional who believes that with the world population
of eight billion people, we have eight billion unique creations
and reflections of God in this world, and that each
(25:17):
person is so unique, and there's so much about each
person that most of us don't even understand yet all
of it is valuable. So my question, he writes, to people,
is why change something that you don't yet understand. I
think eighteen years old now it's easy for me to
(25:40):
say that at the age of eighteen, I knew I
wanted to go.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
To law school.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
But you know what's interesting about me wanting to.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Go to law school.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
I practiced law for I don't know fifteen twenty years,
got sick of it, decided I really didn't like it
as much as I did. Oh, I value my law
school education. You might legal experience, but I have zero
desire to be a lawyer again, none whatsoever. In fact,
you know, I get my renewal every year to renew
(26:11):
my Colorado Bar Association license. I thought it in the
trash every year every year, just totally ignore it because
I have no intention whatsoever practice ever practicing law Again,
he continues, My question to people is why change something
you don't yet understand. If you don't see all the
different things about you that are valuable and they're unique,
how do you know that changing this one set of
(26:32):
things about your sexual physical characteristics is not going to
detract from your from your uniqueness, rather than add to it.
In a statement of obviously, master of the obvious statement,
he says, this is a this is highly complex stuff.
(26:54):
We talk about identity now, we talk about cultural competence.
See and cultural identity. We have identified I never knew this. We,
meaning the psychologists and psychiatrists of the world, have identified
thirty nine factors and cultural and cultural identity. And all
(27:18):
of those factors can be ranked differently. And when you
use a thing called combinant combin combinatories combinatories, that means
there's about one hundred and twenty seven million different possibilities
of how all those factors can interplay. And this is
just on cultural identity. I can't even understand my own
(27:42):
cultural identity with that many factors at play. Yet bringing
up these issues would bring a firestorm into my life,
and I'm not prepared and I'm not prepared to do
that yet. Yeah, I don't like to think about this,
(28:06):
but that and again maybe it's confirmation bias. All I
know is this is a listener whom I believe probably
has come from the national program, who now listens or
maybe they used to live here and have moved somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Doesn't make any difference, But I have a name, and
I've googled the name and validated the credentials and highly
respected and very well known pointing out things that thirty
nine factors they go into our cultural identity, and every
(28:46):
one of those factors can be ranked differently and using combinatories.
That means there's about one hundred and twenty seven million
different possibilities of how all those factors can interplay. And
that's just on cultural ideas, let alone your sexual preferences,
your religious identity, your racial identity, every kind of identity
(29:11):
that we have and a break identity.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Come on, Michael, A woman dressed as a man is
a she he.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
A man dressed as a woman is a he she
gross of balls.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
That must be Gouber number fifteen sixty, who wrote, Mike,
now think about me trying to as fast as I
talk and spit fire things on this program. Imagine me
doing what Guber number fifteen sixty recommends, Mike.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
He she for man.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Pretending to be woman, she he for woman pretending to
be man. They all need professional help. I would need
professional help. I would need like hypnosis of some sort
so that my brain would to madically calculate and spit
out he she Now is that a man pretending to
be a woman? Is that a woman pretending to be
(30:07):
a man? And if it's the former, that's he she
And if it's the ladal.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
That's she e.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
And I just like to point out these numbers and
just give out friendly reminders that according to the NIH,
the suicide attempt rate for transgender perch persons ranges anywhere
from thirty two percent to fifty percent.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Fifty percent almost averages, so on the upper end, half
of those who go through this end up committing suicide
and I'm a great tempt I'm a.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Big fan of comparables here. So I went to the
American Foundation for Suicide Prevention and their numbers for adults
attempting suicide is zero point six percent.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
So barely half a percentage point.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
But now let's think about this.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
They're this population, so.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
This population meeting.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Now, Now the zero point six percent is of the
US population. Correct, So that's three hundred and fifty plus
million America. Correct, So zero point six percent of those
attempt suicide or commit.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Suicide at a range of up to fifty percent. No, no,
excuse me, Yeah, my apologies, I got that.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Yeah right, So less less than one percent of the
population at large. So this big bucket of people zero
point six correct. Now narrow that big bucket of people
down to one percent that are transgender, and half of
(31:43):
that small group attempts.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Or commits suicide.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Correct, And you I'm supposed to be accepting of this,
uh twenty six to fifty Michael. Remember the woman who chose.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
To be blind? I think we did the think maybe
you brought that story to me one time. Dragon.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
We don't consider that saying in the culture yet, do we?
Where does it end? Cbsnews dot com Los Angeles news
woman blinds herself on purpose with drain cleaner.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
One last point, going back to the email. At the
end of the email, the doctor writes, yet, bringing up
these issues would bring a firestorm into my life, and
I'm not prepared to do that yet. But I am
seriously thinking of getting my career and my life into
a place that I could at least tolerate it if
(32:40):
I got lamb basted and had my license removed from me.
But my silence is grieving me but entering into these battles,
whether it's stating that there are other cheaper and safer
ways to handle viruses like COVID, or there's other ways
besides the establishments gender affirming ways to help people gendrite
inity issues is not for the A thane of heart,
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