12-10-24 - 6am - Colorado Has Free Health Care For Migrants

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wow, Michael, what a huge day. Yesterday showed prep should
be both easy and hard, because yesterday was a good
day in the neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's a wonderful day in the neighborhood. Wonderful day in
the neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Won't you be mine?

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Won't you be mine? So last night I am, you know,
searching for my little fifthy one minute Michael Brown minute
over for Freedom ninety three seven, Real News, Real Talk
where you can hear me every Saturday from ten to one.
And I come across the story from CBS four here

(00:43):
in Denver. Let's just walk through this story because I
also posted the story or a comment about the story
on x and a listener or a follower, or maybe
both responded, well, just go to Denver. They've been doing

(01:03):
this for years. There's something different here, and I want
you to know the difference. And Corey gains over. The
Colorado Accountability Project also addresses the story, and so we'll
go over and we'll walk through Corey's story. First, let's
start with CBS News just so we have ostensibly the

(01:27):
factual side of the story starting here. It is CBS four.
This is day to December sixth seven, fourteen pm. Starting
January one, twenty twenty five, a new law will help
children and expecting moms get health coverage. Well that's great,

(01:47):
isn't it. I mean, you know, pregnant mothers and children.
I mean we all care. I mean Daniel Penny was
trying to check to protect women and children on that
subway train in Manhattan. But let me read you the
full paragraph. Starting January one, twenty twenty five, a new

(02:08):
law will help children expecting moms get health care coverage,
no matter their immigration status. And then it goes on
to talk about a new program called Cover All Coloradins.
It makes state Medicaid available for prenatal and postpartum care
and covers physical, dental, vision, and mental health care for children. Now,

(02:35):
Cover All Coloradins is one of those bull s words,
bull crap bill titles that makes everybody you know, touchy feely,
feel so good, so wonderful, because holy cow, we're going
to cover all coloradins. Oh, you might call it socialized
medicine too. Organizations serving immigrants, that's just According to the story,

(03:01):
organizations serving immigrants are working to enroll families now and
to battle fears that some may have about divulging information
to the government. Well, I'd say, whether you're here legally
or not, you ought to be a little concerned about
divulging information to the government on a food distribute. The

(03:23):
story continues that on a food distribution day at Revision
in Denver's Westwood neighborhood, Denver Health is offering care via
it's mobile clinic. Revision is a nonprofit and NGO trusted
by many newcomers to Denver. Geez, CBS four, could you
be a little more biased in your coverage with the

(03:44):
language you're using newcomers? Do you know who a newcomer is?
A newcomer I know, in your parlance, newcomer is an
illegal alien coming here from Venezuela or Nicaragua or Yemen.
You don't give a right test where they come from.
But a new also somebody that moves here stupidly from
I don't know, California to Colorado. Maybe not stupidly, but

(04:07):
maybe from Oklahoma to Colorado. That would be stupid because
you're coming from a red state to a decided lead
blue state. So that's a newcomer too. Are they getting covered?

Speaker 3 (04:19):
No?

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Denver Health program manager Brian Rodriguez says, an effort is
underway to educate immigrants about the new medicaid coverage.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Quote, so we have to start.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
To hear from the community some concerns about what the
implications may be in the future with the new administration that.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Will come in January.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Oh, so let's get a dig in right now about
Trump and our voting to elect him because we want
to deport illegal aliens. Story now, now we get to
the heart wrenching story. Friends, Francis and Kaylee met in Denver.

(05:00):
They are from Honduras and immigrated earlier this year via
the southern border. May I freely interpret that for you.
Francis and Kaylee met in Denver. They're from Honduras and
they crossed the border, the Southern border illegally sometime earlier
this year. So they're illegal aliens. Guess what the next

(05:22):
sentence says, they Kaylee and Francis welcome the opportunity to
access Medicaid. Well, no, Feezi Sherlock, Seriously, you come to
this country illegally, and you welcome the opportunity to take
advantage of all the hard working Americans that are out

(05:42):
there slushing through this snow.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
This morning, out there on the roads.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Trying to get to work, so your bossed on time,
so your boss doesn't yell at you, so you can
work your ass off, so you can get a paycheck,
so you can look at it and see how much
you pay an income tax, FIKA, social Security, Medicare, Medicaid,
state income tax, property taxes, this tax.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Sales taxes, taxes, taxes, taxes.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
That's your ass. Oh no, I'm not upset, I'm just
wound up. Kylie plans to ENRULL soon. She is expecting
her second child next year and counsels other immigrants to
sign up. Quote, well, don't be afraid. Don't be afraid,

(06:26):
she said in Spanish based Let's see who's saying this, Rodriguez.
So this is the guy that runs the NNG. Based
on current Colorado state laws, they protect the privacy of
the clients that are applying for these public benefits. The
state says that not only is privacy protected, the benefits
don't present a public charge challenge. The public charge rules

(06:48):
specifies that a US citizen and Citizenship and Immigration Services
officers an ICE officer may deny a person admission to
the US if they deem the person is likely to
become dependent on certain government benefits in the future, which
would make them a public charge. Well, in Colorado, we've

(07:11):
decided that no, well, no, you're you're gonna get a
Medicaid and we're not gonna we're not gonna allow ice
to designate you as a public charge because we're actually
encouraging you to become dependent upon the government. You know, whatever,
This is a sidebar here. Whatever you think the long

(07:33):
term implications of the Daniel Penny charge might be that
maybe self defense is seeing its day. I've got this
on the list, And also in one of the tabs
is an article I want to talk about where BLM
may be in its death throws because of the Daniel
Penny charge.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Well, halleluj I chures the hell hope.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
So, referring to her children in Kylie's, Francis said this,
this country has any more opportunities for them. We don't
want them to suffer what we once went through. We'll
go fix your own damn country. Then we're not here
to solve the world's problems. We're not here to take
the dreadgs of society from every country all over the world,

(08:16):
because if we did, you know what we would be
like Guam and Hank Johnson not to be afraid that
if we start taking care of every single person that
lives in a dirt bag country, that lives a dirt
bag life, that is poor and downtrodden and everything else,
and we bring them to this country, the world's going
to fall off its axis. Call Hank Johnson down there

(08:38):
in Georgia and make sure he understands that his support
of illegal aliens is going to cause the world to
tip over. Cover All Coloradins was enacted in twenty twenty two.
See the point about me emphasizing twenty twenty two is
why would they put the effective date of January one,

(09:03):
twenty twenty five. One Because they didn't have the funding
for it. Two because they don't want you to think
about it, and they hope that nobody covers it. Well,
somebody covered it, and now three years later, here we
are Representative Matt Soper, a Republican representing Delta and Mason Counties,

(09:25):
opposed the legislation. Then he said, we, as Coloradin's and lawmakers,
are going to have to deal with how we pay
for this. The cost is going to be fourfold what
we anticipated two years ago. And guess what Representative Soaper
was right. Colorado faces a billion dollar budget shortfault next year,

(09:46):
and guess what our stupid, dumbass governor is thinking about doing. Oh,
cutting seven hundred million dollars out of the budget.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Be guesse.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Where that those budget cuts are going to come from.
They're just going to come from things that, oh, we
might actually need roads and highways, yeah, or public safety,
you know, state troopers, law enforcement, the Colorado Bureau of Investigation.
Now that's where the cats will come from. Oh, in fact,

(10:16):
the next paragraph I should have looked ahead. The implement
implementation of Cover All Colorados comes as the state faces
a billion dollar budget shortfall. Representative Sober ads in the
CBS for article, our lower income individuals who are a
Medicaid might see, who might see access to healthcare. We

(10:37):
shouldn't be giving programs and services to undocued undocumented immigrants
that we are not giving to citizens who are within Colorado. Colorado,
CBS four reports, is joining a dozen states and providing
health coverage to all income eligible children regards of immigration status.
According to KFF, Whatever the hell KFF is is when

(11:02):
cover all now here is again why this was passed
in twenty twenty two, but doesn't take effect until twenty
twenty five CBS four without any you know, sense of
maybe we got to editorialize about this. No, they just write.

(11:22):
When cover all Coloriddings became law in twenty twenty two,
it was projected to cover three thousand, six hundred and
seventy seven people and cost thirty four million dollars, with
fifteen million dollars coming out of the state general fund.
The twenty twenty five estimate is now that it will
not serve three thousand, six hundred and seventy seven people,

(11:44):
but in still we'll cover fifteen thousand, forty nine people,
and instead of costing fifteen million dollars, is now going
to cost fifty one million dollars, with thirty nine million
dollars of that coming out of the general fund. So
to run the ordinary basic programs, the basic things that

(12:09):
state government is supposed to do, they're coming up short
at least thirty nine million dollars over which they did
not expect to spend because in the three years intervening
since the law was enacted and now the law taking effect,
the cost has mushroomed from oh fifteen million dollars to

(12:31):
now fifty one million dollars and thirty nine million of
that's when to come from the general fund, so Corey
gains from the Colorado Accountability Project. Has the press release,
he says, a reader sent me the State of Colorado
press Relink press release link below. Due to passage of

(12:55):
a twenty twenty three law, our state is expanding Medicaid
coveries for couple of groups any child up to age three.
The policy now, this is from the release itself. The
policy will support continuous coverage for children from birth to
age three who are eligible for Health First Colorado as
Colorad's Medicaid program or Children's Health Insurance Program that's the

(13:19):
CHP plus program. This expands continuous coverage for young children
through thirty six months rather than the current continuous coverage
of twelve.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Months, and any newly.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Released prisoner up to twelve months from release. Again quoting
from the press release, Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.
The federal agency, which had to sign off on this
for Colorado to move forward, also approve coloradl's request to
allow adults leaving a state prison to maintain continuous Medicaid
coverage eligibility for twelve months, regardless of any changes in

(13:55):
income or other fluctuations. So you get out of prison.
Now you've been on Medicaid. Medicaid has been covering your
medical expenses while you're in prison. You get out, and
you immediately go back to work as you know a
I don't know as a as an insurance executive. Well, uh,

(14:19):
you can continue your Medicaid coverage covered by the taxpayers
for twelve months, regardless of any changes in income or
other fluctuations. Regardless of any changes in income or other fluctuations,
you know, when it comes to spending other people's money.

(14:43):
The Marxists, Now you know what I'm tired of the
term Marxists. The communists in the Colorado Polop Bureau. We're
also known as democrats in some thesauruses, but I prefer communists.
The Communists in the Colorado Polop Bureau don't care about you.
They don't care about Colorado roads and highways, they don't

(15:08):
care about Colorado public safety. All they care about our
constituents that are not citizens of the state, or prisoners who,
regardless of their income or any other fluctuation, when they
go out of prison, they want to take every single
one of you today. I don't care how much you
get paid. I don't care how what your salary is,

(15:30):
what your income is, I don't care. But your taxes
that you are going to pay, that are forcibly be
going to be taken out of your paycheck, is going
to cover this.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Now?

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Do you think when the communists in the Colorado Pullit
Bureau thought about passing this program? What do you think
they were trying to do? Did they think about you?
Were they concerned about you? Were they concerned about the
general fund? Were they concerned about Hey, you know this program?
You know well the estimate today is fifteen million dollars.

(16:04):
Why it'll still be fifteen million dollars, And you know
twenty twenty five, just like you know, whatever you paid
for a loaf of bread in twenty twenty two, I'm
sure you're paying probably less than twenty twenty five. I mean, no,
that inflation was all transitory. Remember, but it's not just Colorado.

(16:26):
As Corey points out, medicaiding others are income qualified, meaning
that if you make too much money, you cannot be
in the program. These changes for both zero to three
year olds and for newly released inmates means that you
can for the extended periods outline, make above the income
limit and still stay on Medicaid. We've, you know, because

(16:51):
of the assassination of whatever that guy's name, you know want.
I find that you don't care what that guy's name is,
either the assassin or the CEO of United Healthcare. I
just don't care. I'll explain why later in the program
about that too. They these programs are part of what

(17:13):
we call our social safety net. And that social safety
net is not because I wanted it, but because progressives,
Marxist Democrats wanted it, and some dumbmass Republicans thought, you know,
rather than rely on individuals or the private sector or
charitable organizations to help take care of the down trodden

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and the poor among us, who will always be among us,
we're just perpetuating it with these programs. You know, in
the Bible, when it says that the poor will always
be among us, what the Bible didn't anticipate is that
democrats and communists would assure that, no matter what God
says about the poor always being among us, we're gonna

(17:57):
make damn sure they're always among us, because we're going
to keep them on the government teat as long as
we can. In fact, we're going to start them out
on the government tea at agency at age birth. But
it's not just Coloraden's. It also means extra costs to
both federal and state taxpayers, because we'll have.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
More people on the rolls now than we had before.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
To get a sense of the extra Corey attached the
estimated cost table from the bill's fiscal note as a
screen shop. The first highlighted column on the left is
probably the best forecast. The second highlight is more speculative,
and he says, I wouldn't even look at the third
that's just too far out. I would look at it
because it's probably as true to some degree. When you

(18:42):
look at these charts, you realize just how stupid those
people are in the polyp Bureau will loose puss this
bill in twenty twenty two. It's only coasts fifteen million dollars.
What could possibly happen between now and twenty twenty five.
Even an ordinary cost of living increase, just ordinary two

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percent inflation means that your initial estimate of the cost
is already going to be increased when you finally get
to the implementation date, just because of an average of
two percent inflation every single year. It It is mind

(19:27):
numbingly stupid how democrats are just casting us into fiscal oblivion.
You know, when I drove into work today, I saw
a few people who spun out. There were a couple
of people that, you know, their cars had you know,
gotten caught in the storm last night, and so they

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were in the median or they were over on the
you know, in.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
The ditch somewhere.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
And then I'm watching people, you know, I get behind
a car that suddenly decides to change lanes. They're only
they're driving like twenty five miles an hour. I mean,
the roads are bad, They're not that bad. And I thought,
because I knew I was doing the story, I thought,
all these schmucks you know, going to work, you may
be one of them right now, and you're going and

(20:13):
you're gonna have this money taken out and people who
are not even out of bed yet, who are not
going to work today, who are not going to lift
a finger to do anything productive, you're paying for them.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Am I angry about it? What do you think?

Speaker 4 (20:32):
Hey, Michael, I know you're probably gonna talk about the
not guilty of Veric verdict all day, but let's talk
about what the Denver Composts had to mention about Colorado's
GDP slipping from fifth to forty first worst in the

(20:52):
United States. I guess going woke doesn't pay off. Have
a good one.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Well, one, I've not heard that.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Two.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
You must be new here the Denver Composts. You realize
I don't read that. In fact, I finally, but maybe
a year or two ago, decided that, you know, I
really do need to at least skim it just but
it's so horrible that I canceled my online subscription. And

(21:30):
I'm kind of going round and round with them now
because even though I've canceled by subscription, I still get.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
These emails, these constant, incessant.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Emails from the Denver Compost about oh, here's the story today,
or here's the story today, here's that story today.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
I'm like, no, no, stop it, stop it. I forget there.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Was somebody, you know, we get these emails all the
time too, you know, suggesting to Dragon and I different
guests and different times. I'm not talking about from listeners.
I'm talking about from PR firms. And there was one
that I forget what the subject was, but it's totally
irrelevant to whatever we talk about here. It was it

(22:10):
was like maybe they were sending it to.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
A fashion for your team, yeah, something. It was just
so bizarre, and it was just incessant.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Every day I got I got these emails from and
and the person's name was also on the name of
the firm. So, despite several attempts at unsubscribing, I went
to the firm's website and I found the CEO and
realized that, oh, this is like a family run PR business.

(22:40):
So I sent a letter or an email directly to
the CEO and said, you know, dear mister Redbeard, a
member of your family or at least someone with the
last name as you continues to send me emails that
are totally irrelevant, totally in the ti to everything that

(23:01):
I do my audience, and neither me nor my audience
have any interest in this, in this these subject matters whatsoever,
And despite numerous repeated attempts to get you to unsubscribe,
you will not unsubscribe. So therefore, I am at this
point considering all of your emails spam and I have redirected.
I've since deleted it, but I created a rule so

(23:24):
that all of their emails went right to.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
A junk folder. Yeah. God.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
I got a response back almost immediately from the CEO
saying I'm so sorry. I'll take care of this immediately
and you will receive no receive no more emails. And
I got no more emails. I'm about to do that
to the publisher of the Denver Post. I'm sick of it.
But now you've piqued my curiosity about our GDP. So
if I, if I, if I had an ink pen
anywhere within sight, I would make a note to go

(23:52):
look that story up.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
And I'm not going to talk about the Daniel Penny
story all day long.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
There's a couple of stories I want to or a
couple of angles on it I want to talk about,
but not for all day. But I do want to
tie the last subject the the uh what was the Coloradins?
What do they call that stupid program? See how quickly

(24:16):
I forget.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
They call it Hang on Cover all Coloradins.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
That's the program we just talked about that makes Medicaid
available for all pre natal, postpartum care, covers dental vision,
mental health for children, and for prisoners once you get out,
regardless of your income. Yeah, you can still stay on Medicaid,
and you're And again, my anger about this story, I

(24:46):
mean this sincerely, is because I know this audience. And
while we have a lot of people in this audience
who are I would consider to be wealthy, you make
a lot more money than I do. We also have
the full spectrum of demographics in this program, and I

(25:09):
know there are a lot of people out there schluving
to work today that are facing an irate boss, a
lot of pressure to make some extra sales today. You're
you're out there doing plumbing work or electrical work. You're
you know, we got blue collar, we got white collar,
we got everything. And my anger about this whole story

(25:30):
is because you are struggling, and I don't care how
wealthy you are. Inflation and cost of living, all of
this affects you. Now that the impact may be lesser
or greater depending upon your income, But nonetheless, it pisses
me off to think about every morning. You know what

(25:51):
I'm when I'm coming into work at five am and
I see all these people on the road, I know
that those those are hard working Americans. Those are hard
working Colorado's going to work maybe at a job they
don't like, you know, unlike me. It is coming to
a job that I do like just my co workers
with the people I don't like it. That's that's my problem.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Oh hello, I.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Didn't know whether the equipment was working, whether you could
hear me or not. So I thought, you know, considering
nothing's workings be a chance to you know, kind.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
There's a work around. We'll make a work around. I
don't fix anything, We'll just make a work around.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
But it does irritate me on your behalf, because I look,
I think about how terror and I struggled when when
when I was in law school, it wasn't an easy
thing to do, you know. I mean, we had a kid,
and I'm going to law school and I'm trying to work.
I'm trying to work and go to law school and

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do all of this stuff. And I'm not patting myself
on the back. I'm just saying that I understand that
it is that the average American, particularly in this economy,
is struggling at times and when and then when I
see people who should not be here, and when I
see people on and now I'm talking about American citizens

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who somehow think that it is the responsibility of all
of you, all of us to take care of the
entire freaking world that comes here. No, that's my point
about we've abdicated our compassion to the government, and the

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government inherently is incapably incapable of being compassionate. But for
some reason we think that's what we want, and we've
been convinced that if there will be people, there are
people on the left who will hear that. I think
that our social safety net has become way too broad,

(27:53):
way too expansive. We're covering too many people, We're making
too many people dependent upon the government, and they will
think that I'm the a hole. They'll think that I'm
the a hole because I'm the one that's out there
trying to defend all of the men and women in
this country that have small businesses, that go to work
for a living, that work for a paycheck, that are

(28:15):
living paycheck to paycheck. I care about them. It's not
that I don't care about poor people in other countries,
but it's not my responsibility as a taxpayer to take
care of them.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Now. I may have a moral I may feel a moral.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Obligation to help, so I might contribute to some you
know good you know world vision. I always use tameras
example of world vision. She's been giving to this little
girl that lives in I don't know, Ecuador or somewhere
for years. I mean from the time she was a
baby until she's a teenager now, I think. And so

(28:56):
you give to your church, or you give to you know,
the homeless women. You do things individually, and you do
things through charitable organizations. But no, everybody thinks the government
ought to do it. The government's the most inefficient, ineffective
way to do it. And it also means that it

(29:18):
takes away your choice. And I thought, oh, I thought
the Left was all about choice. Do you have a choice? No,
you don't. So if you're having if you're struggling, Let's
say you've got a child that has a dental problem,
a vision problem, or a mental health problem, and you're

(29:38):
struggling to pay your insurance premiums because of the amount
of money you make and the amount they charge for
those premiums, you're struggling to do that. Well, at the
same time, they're taking money out of your check so
that they can cover the physical, dental, vision, and mental
health care for children who aren't even here legally. That's

(30:02):
what pisses me off, and if that makes me an
a whole, so be it. I'll wear that moniker proudly.
You can tattoo it on my forehead. I don't care.
It's wrong, it is morally wrong. I do think to
the degree you can then, that we each have some

(30:24):
obligation to help those less fortunate than us. But that's
my personal obligation. That's not an obligation that's forced upon
me by the freaking US or state government. And that's
where I draw the line. And we have now we
become brainwashed, We become brainwashing into thinking that it is

(30:46):
our obligation as taxpayers to take care of everybody else,
and it is not. My Judeo Christian ethics say that
I have a personal responsibility to help others, but I
don't have an obligation to the government to help others
that's being forced upon me, and I think that is immoral,

(31:07):
absolutely immoral. Now let's I got to take a break here,
but let me shift. So this is going to cover everyone.
And I said in the Michael Brown minute that this
is going to create this pregnancy tourism, maternity tourism. Come

(31:27):
here illegally, get pregnant, or be pregnant, drop a baby,
drop a baby and callim out of soil, and boom
you get. Guess what, The baby now has citizenship. So
let's talk about birthright citizenship, Michael.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
This Medicare for Leles program, it's just one of many
programs that shows that we would really like to be
and actually we already are East California.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah, that's why earlier in the program I used the
example you have to be really stupid to move here
from say Oklahoma or Texas, California. You're just that's just
like moving across the street.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
So Trump's declaration that he's going to address birthright citizenship
means that he's going to have to address birth tourism
and anchor babies. And so I want to delve into
this a little bit, and obviously we have to carry
it over into the next hour. But sometimes when you

(32:33):
think about birthright citizenship, there's just when you think about
some of the rationale for it, you suddenly realize that,
wait a minute, this is not a complicated issue. This
is a pretty simple issue. If you accept the current

(32:54):
practice of birthright citizenship. I want you to think about
it in these terms. I always talked about never accept
the premise of a question. Don't accept the premise of
why birthright citizenship is a thing, because that means that
is based on a premise that this country has decided

(33:17):
that any woman anywhere in the world can unilatterally grant
her child or children US citizenship merely by showing up
on US soil and time for delivery. Stay home in
Mexico for you know, eight and a half months, and
in the last two weeks, just make sure your water

(33:38):
hasn't broken, and you know, cross the Rio Grande and
make it over to you know, Houston or someplace and
drop a baby, and you have the facto granted that.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Child American citizenship.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Just migrate here, immigrate here, cross here, get here illegally, however,
in time for the blessed of him of the birth,
and you have granted citizenship. Really, since when do we
accept that and why do we accept that