12-17-24 - 7am - Paying For Closed Ski Resort and Indigenous Knowledge

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Michael read a piece in the on X this morning
where Polis is welcoming everyone to Colorado, criminals, school shooters,
anything and everybody. We've got a home for everybody. But
I think Polis and Johnson are writing checks that they're behind.
Can't cash. Have a great day.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, I would agree, and.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Jared Polis, there's no question in my mind he has
presidential aspirations, and there's there's no question in my mind
that he really is of the progressive Marxist wing of
the Democrat Party. Now here's where he's brilliant. Now, because
he's brilliant doesn't mean I agree with me. I'm just
saying he's brilliant politically, he keeps like every once in

(00:50):
a I more often than not, more often than I
would like. I see Polis appearing on the cable channels,
and with the help of particularly like a CNN or
an MSNBC, he comes across with their help as very moderate.

(01:11):
He's lately been going on Kavoodo Show, and I don't
know why he's become a almost irregular on Kavoudo, but
he presents himself as a moderate, almost as if there
are those on the left and those kind of rhinos
on the right that are almost trying to assist him, like,

(01:36):
let's give this guy a boost.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Maybe it's because they were like the first game, you know,
we always have to have the first something. Well, the
first gay president, the first bald headed gay president. That
by the way, dragon, No more I thought about that
whole crumbled cookie thing. Yeah, the more I got to
thinking about this is an example of how politicians try
to play it both ways. Because on the one hand,

(02:03):
he was endorsing crumble cookies, which he should not be
doing as governor anymore because what about crave cookies? What
about what dirty dough is at the name of the other?

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, or pick a local or the right a local or.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Any local bakery. On the other hand, when it came
to like talking about abortion, he threw the crumble cookie
and I remember what kind it.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Was, right, And it looked like it was a raspberry something.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, he threw in the trash and so he dissed it.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
And it's just like everything else he does, he tries
to have it both ways and it dry.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
I don't know why, but I oh, I know why.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
But he's lowered property tax. That's a one thousand out
of ten.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
I keep telling you, what do you get your property
tax bill? And then and then I'll just give an
hour over to you and let you explain how those numbers,
like you your school shooting numbers and your murder numbers.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
You can mean to me how that property tax number.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Is lower than it was last year if you go
from a forty five percent increase, excuse me, a forty
eight percent increase. Yes, you're likely a forty five percent increase.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Look, he lowered it right, you're learning, You're you. You
could you too, could be a bureaucrat. You wouldn't last long. Oh,
but you could really be one now because Biden signed
that edict or whatever it was with the unions yesterday
that allows him to work from home for the next

(03:32):
five years.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Not even guaranteed you should be employed for the next
five years if you're.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
A broker, if you're a bureaucrat, you're guaranteed to be
employed for the rest.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Of your life and you can work at home. Oh,
good grief.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Well, the it's interesting you mentioned Polus because this ran
across the story yesterday. Now, look, I haven't skied in
I'm guessing maybe fifteen twenty years, it reached the point
where it too expensive, too crowded. I hate I seventy

(04:15):
and you know, to go to some you know.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Anywhere.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
It was just particularly on the weekends back when we
had our Saint Bernard's. It was a curse. S'm true
with the Leedenbergers, but it's just much more fun to
take them out into the woods and go snowshoeing or
cross country skiing doing whatever, just you know, back maybe
up in the Indian Peaks wilderness or something, and there's

(04:43):
hardly anybody there, and so we just we just quit skiing. Now,
you might say too, our daughter had gosh, which has
probably been more than twenty years ago, she kind of
wrecked her knee a little bit skiing, and so she
quit skiing, and then we just kind of we just
kind of moved away from it. I mean, I don't
hate skiing, and I understand how important skiing is to Colorado.

(05:07):
I just don't care well not to mention the cost
too well, yeah, I mean the costs that you must
not have been listening. That was like my number one
reason it just got exorbitantly expensive.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
I must not have been listening.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
You must be new here.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Really I should have just ignored the whole comment altogether.
That's what I should have done. So I want to
talk about how we need a doge.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Organization of some sort. In Colorado.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
We have something called the Colorado Outdoor Recreation Office. It
gets money, it gets pandemic, it still gets pandemic money
from the US Economic Development Administration.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
They doled out more.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Than three point seven million to forty nine projects in
twenty seven counties in the last two years for outdoor recreation. Now,
if you were to ask any tourist, virtually any tourist
coming to Colorado, what are you coming for? Oh, we

(06:18):
want to go to the mountains, we want to go skiing,
we want to go hiking.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Maybe maybe it's they're hunters coming here.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
They're outdoors. Colorado's known for our outdoors. Why do we
have to get three point seven million dollars to forty
nine projects in twenty seven country, in twenty seven countries,
in twenty seven counties.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Why why do we need to do that?

Speaker 3 (06:42):
I know it's only three point seven million dollars, but
you think about every single who that was very close,
every single freaking time that I come up with one
of these examples. That's three point seven million dollars. Oh,
it's you know, it's it's ninety million dollars. Oh, it's
two million dollars. It's only eighty it's only eight hundred
thousand dollars. If you add them all up, pretty soon

(07:04):
you got serious money. The two hundred and fifty thousand
dollars from the state that is the point of this
story is going to the Kuchera Ski Area. Kuchera has

(07:25):
been closed, or was closed twenty four years ago. A
quarter of a century ago, the operators at Kuchera Ski
Area decided that, you know what, we just can't make
you go of it. Apparently since then there's been some

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community group down in southern Colorado that's been trying to
breathe new life into the ski hill. Well, good for them,
I wish them. Look, maybe they can find some investors,
maybe they could find some other people that would be
interested in opening Kachera back up. But no, rather than

(08:09):
do that, they go to the Colorado Outdoor Recreation Office
and they're going to get a quarter of a million dollars.
The director of the state's Outdoor Recreation Office of Yahoo
by the name m'connor hall says, this one, meaning Kachera,
was a real learning curve. The grant for Kuchera was

(08:31):
a great example of adapting and learning together to find
a way that ultimately helps this project in a pretty
big way. Now, last winter, after struggling to get the
ski area's chairlift running and approved by the once again,
remember yesterday I told you were the sixth most highly

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regulated state in the country. Well, last year they struggled
to get the chair lift running because they were they
were trying to get approval from the Colorado Passenger Tramway
Safety Board.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
But you know that existed.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
I mean it's it's not there's not any other already
existing group that can inspect chair lifts, so we have
to have the Colorado Passenger Tramway Safety Board. So these
volunteers in this community group effort Downy Cacerra was trying
to fire up the Kichera Mountain Park. They bolted eleven

(09:31):
school talking about trying to jerry rig something. They bolted
eleven school bus seats to a car hauling trailer on
skids and attached it to Piston Bully SnowCat that was
donated from the City of Denver and.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Winter Park totally safe, totally say.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
I mean, what what's the what's the what's to inspect?
What do you need to inspect? Just look at it
and say no, that's no, it's not.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Going to work.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
But here's here's the best part. The two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars is not going to go to work
on that jerry rigged ski lift or whatever you would go.
I can't in good conscience call it a ski lift
because of Federal Guard rails on the funding, so you

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can't really use it for that. So they get the
money to By the way, this is not counting money
that they got last year to replace the electrical system
for Lift four so it could eventually pass state muster.
It actually looks like a regular ski lift, like an

(10:44):
old time ski lift, but nonetheless an old fashioned ski lift.
This year, the quarter of a million dollars is going
to go not for capital improvements, not to say, rebuild
to chair lift, and none of which I would approve
of anyway. I just don't think. I just think the

(11:04):
private sector ought to be doing this. I know Denver
Own's Winter Park, but it doesn't mean I approve of that.
I think that the you know, go to the Aspin
Ski company to go to somebody. Go find some Texas
billionaires and say, hey, you want to have your own
little personal, you know, ski area in Kuchera.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Go to them.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
No, we're going to go to the Colorado taxpayers. But
here's the best part of all the compliance. Quoting from
the story, who is this yahoo? I don't know anyway,
some y'all who says the compliance was so complicated that

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the decision was made to not spend the federal money
going through the state on the lift. Instead, that allows
us to spend the grant money on operations, and then
we can take our operational money and put that toward
the lift. Now, let's step back from this story for

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just a minute and then think about what's going on here.
So you have a couple of lifts, one which you've
jerry rigged with school bus seats and a car hauling
trailer and somehow wrapped all that together, and that doesn't
really pass a safety inspection. But you know what, who cared?

(12:29):
I bet they use it anyway. But you can't cover
your operating costs. So the state's going to step in
and cover your operating costs. Now I'd like to ask
how many of you. In fact, I work for a company.
I work for a publicly traded company that has bondholders

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and shareholders, of which I am one. I'm a shareholder.
I own some of the equity, don't own any of
the debt, thank goodness. I don't own any of the
debt this company. In fact, the CEO put out an
email yesterday or day before uh, talking about how we're

(13:13):
in such great financial shape for the future for you know,
for the next two or three years. Well, yes we are.
You know why, because they reached an agreement with the
bond holders, with the debt holders to post this is
all public available knowledge, so I'm not disclosing anything proprietary here,
and put it off for at least two years, off

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to like twenty twenty seven or twenty twenty eight or something.
Well that obviously, if you don't have to pay any
you don't have to service your debt, that gives you
more money for operations. And then on top of that,
if you lay people off, then you've got even more
money for operations. Did we go to some Colorado outfit
or some night Do we go to the federal government

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and say Hey, why don't you give us some money
because we need to operate. You know, we need we
need some operational funds. We don't have enough revenue to
cover operations. How many of you work for a company,
How many of you own a small business where you're
operating expenses are not quite enough to cover You're operating

(14:17):
revenue is not quite enough to cover your operating expenses. Well,
if that's the case, you've got to figure out a
way to cut your overhead. You've got to figure out
a way to reduce your expenses so your expenses and
your revenue are pretty much set. Or you go into debt.
You go to a bank, and if you can show
a business model that's going to allow you to service

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the debt and keep the business operating and maybe perhaps
grow the little business a little bit, then you will
be given a loan at some exorbitant interest rate and
you'll pay it back. And that's the way it's supposed
to work.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
But not here.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Here we've got a ski hill that cannot sustain itself.
So again, all you slubs going to work today that
you know are collecting a paycheck, they're gonna be paying
Colorado income tax. And then for all of you that
maybe don't work, but you pay federal income tax because

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remember this is money coming out of COVID money, pandemic
money to operate Kacheri Ski area, the Kacheriski Hill. Really,
if we stopped all of that kind of bull crap

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at the state level, the local level, the federal level.
If if they want a new mile high stadium, you
know the billionaires that own the.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Broncos, they can cut a check for it.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Anybody that wants to come to color that wants to
open a business here because they think the climate's great,
and they think that we have a highly educated workforce
and we got all this great recreation with maybe the
exception of Kuchera, so their employees can ski and recreate,
and HI can do all these outdoor things. Hunt and fish.

(16:18):
Oh well, we can't talk about hunting because that means
that you're killing animals. You can't do that. Why should
we subsidize anything, anything at all. The foundation that's trying
to put all this together also got one hundred grand

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from the Colorado Parks and Wildlife Outdoor Equity Grant Program,
which directs support toward projects that reduce barriers to outdoor recreation.
So the grant for Kuchera Mountain Park will create two
four day ski and bike camps for students and Wafano

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and Los Animous counties that will also include environmental education
lessons alongside training on skis and bikes. Now, the application
says this will help them envision possible future careers for
themselves connected with the outdoors. We waste so damn much

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money on what we try to wrap around as a
public private partnership when really it's a private enterprise just
seeking to suck off the government. Team man O me
Carot can't sustain itself, so they want you to do it.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
And if you're listening.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Somewhere else out of state, your federal income tax dollars
are going to fund that private ski area.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Truth, Brownie and Dragon.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
Whenever I hear the term Department of Government efficiency, my
mind always goes to the Department of Redundancy department.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Have a great day, doord.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
The Department of Redundancy the what was the Department of
Redundancy department?

Speaker 4 (18:23):
Yeah, I love the Department of Redetundency department because.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
I like the fact the departments in there twice. So
it's the Department of Redundancy department.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
They think they own the trouble ticket system that we
have here.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Or the on air tech support system. Yeah, I think
that goes all to the same guy that's probably working
from home somewhere and maybe.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Down the Kacheriski area, maybe that's where they're working.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Christmas Uh, Marcy who lives down that area, just send
me a text mess and says the chair has been
a boondoggle for sure. It was county owned, then a nonprofit,
then back to the county, then back to another nonprofit
and of course there's not enough snow climate change. I
could go on like crazy about it was supposed to
be bought out by a for profit company, and then

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the county next that it's crazy and the former county
GOP chair down there.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Is the lead on this. Well, okay.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
The ostensible purpose speaking a Department of Redundancy of the
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration NOAH is to provide weather forecasts. Now,
the actual purpose under the Democrats, the Marxist as in
every other looking cranny of the federal behemoth, is to

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ram you know, their Marxist policies down our throats. This
means accurate weather forecasts are to be subordinated to superstition, or,
as they call it these days, indigenous knowledge. Now, according
to a press release, Noah has signed a formal memorandum

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of understanding in MoU with the American Indian Higher Education
Consortium to quote advanced Indigenous knowledge and achieve strong climate
resilience for our tribal for our tribal nations. How is

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it possible that all the indigenous nations in this country
survive for eons without Noah?

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Now?

Speaker 3 (20:43):
The Biden regime rejects the scientific method in exchange for
I don't know, whitchcraft or something. Biden issued a memo
in November of twenty twenty two that directed more than
two dozens federal agencies to apply indigenous knowledge to decision making,

(21:08):
research and policies, and then call on those agencies to
speak with the spiritual leader leaders of all those Indigenous
knowledge groups and reject methodological dogma. Huh, So is it
now official government policy that we just screw science? Something

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is true? If non whites from less advanced cultures say
it's true? Is that what we're doing? And if you
disagree with that, then you know the answer. If you
disagree with that, then you must be racist. The story
goes on to say that indigenous knowledge has made it

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possible for indigenous nations to persist and thrive for millennia, until,
of course, we came along and screwed them up royally.
No Administrator Rick s Spinrad Spinrod spin Red, I don't
know set in a statement quote. These knowledge systems are
needed more than ever to inform Noah and our nation's

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approach to environmental stewardship. Need to what There's an added
advantage to this approach, because if the rain predicted by
a shaman doesn't materialize, the federal bureaucrats could just hop
around shaking a bone of the sky and correct the situation,
and then we'll get the the you know, we'll get

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the rain. Now, rain dances are still actually practiced by
some American Indians, but more alarmingly, the FDA and the
CDC in February finalized revisions to their Scientific Integrity guidelines
to also include indigenous knowledge. Now, let me be clear

(22:59):
about something. There's a lot of stuff in indigenous medicine.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Medicine men kind of knew a few things.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
And they actually probably are better environmentalists. Native Americans are
then than anybody else. But do we really need a
weather man to know which way the wind blows? Do
we really? I don't think so. Now on the positive side,
which doctors themselves don't need to spend years in medical

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school anymore? No, they can just get hired by Noah
or the FDA or the CBC. Again from the story.
Those new guidelines, which impact how those agencies propose new regulations,
call for the incorporation of non traditional modes of science.

(23:49):
What does that mean? Can you tell me what a
non traditional mode of science is? I mean, I thought
science was science and if it's a non traditional mode
to science, that it's probably not science anyway, The new
guidelines will impact how those agencies propose new regulations call
for the incorporation of non traditional modes of science as

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part of their support for equity, justice, and trust. The
guidelines go on to say that issues of diversity, equity, inclusion,
and accessibility are an integral component of the entire scientific process.
You see, the issue is never the issue with democrats

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in control. The issue is always dumb assery. How might
like diversity, equity inclusion or ESG environmental, social and governance?
How might that affect Oh, I don't know, just modern life.
How might that affect something like, I don't know. A
company that produces salt, compass memor n Rules America, Inc.

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Which is headquartered over in Kansas, which is just a
suburb of Colorado, has initiated a recall for very specific
salt products due to potential contamination with foreign materials. The recall,
which was announced last month, affects a whole range of products,
including bulk salt. In one metric ton totes fifty pound

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bags of special purity granulated food grade salt forty four
pound bags of cifto high grade salt. And these products
have now and since the recall. Well before the recall,
we're distributed across all the countries, to states such as Maine, Indiana, Wisconsin,
and to some Canadian customers. Now following the discovery, the

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FDA classified the recall as Class two on December thirteenth.
Just what, that's just three or four days ago. Class
two classification indicates that the use of exposure to the
product in question may lead to temporary or medically reversible
adverse health consequences. Well, they're adverse, at least they're reversible.

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Right with the unlikely chance of severe health effects. Now,
anybody that possesses these recalled items has obviously been advised
to discontinue their use immediately. You can find all this
information on the FDA website and the company mentor's official website,
and there's certain lot codes and all of that. But

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why do you think they might have foreign materials in
their sult Why do you think? I mean, let me
give you a hint. Think Boeing Boeing Ed Dowling, who
is the president and CEO of Compass Minerals, likes to
emphasize the importance of sustainability in their operations and the

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pride that they take in positively influencing communities and environmental stewardship.
So if you're all focused on, say, environmental stewardship, then
how does for material get into your salt? Newsweek has
a list called Responsible Companies. It's in partnership with Statista,

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which evaluates companies based on ESG performance and a survey
of twenty six thousand US residents. Now, did they survey you?
They didn't survey me. I don't know. I was going
to check last night and I kind of forgot about it.
But I was going to check and see if we

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had any compass mineral salt in our house.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
I think we just have I don't know. Tammer buy
some sea salt and we got some Morton salt, and
I don't know what kind of salt we have. But
what I want to know is the salt that we
do have in our house, was it produced by a
company that is sustainable and focuses and takes pride in
positively influencing communities and their environmental stewardship, and that they're

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a responsible company because of their scores on ESG. No.
I want a company to produces contaminant free salt. That's
what I want. Anytime CEOs start telling you, this is
why I say, think boeing that you need to focus

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on sustainability, environmental social governance, diversity, equity inclusion. That means
they're not focusing or they're less focusing on quality control
or producing a quality product that people actually want to
buy and use, that might be safety used, that's not
going to cause a recall, that's not going to cause

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you to get sick, although you can recover from the sickness.
Oh my god, are we soligable? Serious question. Is the
nation salvageable? Even with Trump coming in and Trump doing
everything he's going to do, are we salvageable?

Speaker 5 (29:11):
Come on, Mike, Indigenous knowledge is not witchcraft. You're being ridiculous.
They call their magic medicine.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Along the lines of the going back to Cacera forty
four to forty three rights. Mike, I'm on the town
council of a small community in northern Colorado, and when
I saw the amount of grant money that we apply
for and receive, I was shocked. So I did a
little research and found out that the federal government gives

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half a trillion dollars annually in grant money to municipalities.
As much as I love the money for our projects,
which we could not afford to do without those dollars,
I'm discussed by the concept. You should be more than disgusted.
I want you to think about what kind of a
money laundering scheme this is. So the taxpayers whatever town

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you represent, you have taxpayers. They pay state taxes. You
maybe you have a local income tax like Denver, I
don't know, but they paid state tax, state income tax,
and they pay federal income tax. And that's in addition
to all the sales tax, property taxes, excise taxes. That's
additioned to all the fees they pay everything else fees

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that are actually taxes, is all of that. So some
goes to state, some goes to FED, some goes to
maybe you do, your local community, so they pay into
all of that then the federal government or the state,
because you should probably look at how much money your
your local community gets from the Colorado state government, which

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probably comes from the federal government. So your taxpayers are
getting taxed, double, triple, quadruple taxed because all of that
money goes up the chain and it comes right back down,
as you say, to pay for things that you couldn't
otherwise afford to do without those dollars. So everybody in

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the country is coming up with half a trillion to
five hundred billion dollars to fund projects that you couldn't
otherwise afford because you don't have the taxing capacity to
take the money directly from your citizens, because they're not

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only paying for what they need to pay for, plus
they're paying for what everybody else needs. So the long
term effect of this is taxes will continue to go
up unless Trump and Congress stop it. And unless they
stop programs like this and taxpayers have more money, so

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then you can decide whether whatever program you really want
is does your community really want that program, and if so,
are they really willing to pay for that program? Because
most people think that when you get a grant that
that's coming from the magic ferry money in DC and
that they have no direct cost to them. The other

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unintended consequence of this whole money laundering scheme is that.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
More and more power and more and more.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Control gets pushed upward to the federal government to where
I think I can legitimately make an argument, why have
municipalities at all, Why have counties, why have stakes? Let's
just nationalize everything and just pay you know, take all

(32:55):
the money that all the taxes we pay now, just
give it the federal government and just them control it all.
Be a help a lot easier, are you