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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But somebody please ask the governor if he's checked on
the safety of the smelt.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Oh, yeah, the smelt. Oh my gosh, what we can
do with the smelt, the pearls smelt, smelt, smelt, smelt.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Forgive my ignorance, but smelt is a fish, right.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Smelts a little fish. It's a little silver Minnow, it's
probably I'm guessing, of course, you know what guys think
about six inches, but I'm guessing somewhere between five.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Or six inches about that.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
That's about that. It's about the size of a spring whale. Yeah,
about that size. Yeah, we still don't see Trump's been speaking, uh,
Fox says Judge Merchant talking to the court. So and Dragon,
you still don't hear anything.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Correct down the ABC satellite feed. We're just getting room
noise or crowd noise. And from what I had heard
earlier on Fox News is that they're they're still they're
waiting for the transcript so they can tell us what happens.
So I don't know if there's really audio that they
are able to broadcast from the courtroom.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
See, this is an interesting twist because it's been just
shouted everywhere that he was going to allow audio. Well,
maybe what's really happening is now generally this is for
the for the court reporter's purposes. It will be recorded
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so that the clerk, the court reporters, the stenographer can
go back and make certain as she's or he is
putting together the transcript, if there are some in audibles
or whatever, she can go back and he or can
go back and check that and then correct the transcript.
So maybe it's just that they're going to release that
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audio later. I thought they were going to actually let
us hear take it live. Yeah, because if merchant If
Mashawn insists, they're dealing with a unique set of circumstances
and he's now getting ready to actually sentence Donald Trump.
I want to hear that. I want to hear it.
I don't I don't want to read about it. I
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don't want to hear it. And I know that many
people probably disagree with that because they don't want to broadcast.
But I want to broadcast, just like I think that
the trial should have been broadcast. But that's just me.
I This whole thing about no courts and or no
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cameras in court rooms, I think sometimes is gone just
a little too far. So we'll just continue to see
no prison, no probation, no conditions, no fec Sherlock really
like what you can't leave the way? You can't leave
the west wing, yes, today in the east wing you
got the east wing, West wing. You can't. You can't
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leave there. Do do do do do do. I'm just
trying to read the chiron and read the uh close captioning,
and we're not gonna I don't think we're gonna get
any I'm so disappointed and we're gonna get anything after all.
So instead, let's go back to the fires, because there
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is this idea floating around surprise surprise that oh uh,
these wildfires were not entirely unexpected. Why But I.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Just the longer we get into this, the more I
think about how New Orleans didn't invest in their levee system.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Joe Starborough at MSNBC says that the problem in Knowlans
in two thousand and five was that for decades prior
to that, they had never invested in maintaining the levees
to protect the city of New Orleans that lives below
sea level. Eugene Robinson, who was a columnist for The
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Washington Post, I think he still does that. I'm not sure,
but now they want to tell you why.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
How they they didn't invest in critical infrastructure and people
died because of it, And it's just it's it's hard
to hear people say I'm one of the richest cities
in the world that, oh, we just we don't have
enough water to protect people's homes.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Yeah, well, you know, it's the system is designed to
fight a big fire. It's just not designed to fight
what happened and which was which is not entirely you know,
un expectable, right, and because of climate change and because
of the way the weather patterns have gone the last
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couple of years. But you fight at fire that huge
from the air, You've got to get your coppers and
your planes up dropping water on something that big, and
they couldn't get the planes up.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Which is only partially true. You have to attack a
wildfire from every angle on the ground and in the air.
You have to fight. You firefighting is a complex profession,
and particularly in a wildfire and one that's being spread
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as rapidly as this is through an urban area, because
in the wild land you can attack it through on
the air with helicopters and tanker planes, but you can
also attack it on the ground with water. So you
take water tanks and trucks and you get into the
forest and you start trying to put out the fire
at the same time that you're building a backfire and
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digging trenches so that the fire can't jump and keep moving.
So that's the when you hear the word containment, that's
kind of what they're talking about. So there's no containment
going on. It's not just through the air. There was.
There was no fighting this fire, no fighting these fires
on the ground because of the lack of water. But MSNBC,
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as most of the cabal said, they can't help themselves.
That's not the only.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Problem because of the high winds and so you know,
should there be a more robust infrastructure is should there
have been more than three million gallon tanks up on
Pacific Pals. It was just what they were what there was,
and they were.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Think about how their Monday morning quarterbacking, not because there's something. Look,
I don't object to Monday morning quarterbacking. When when we
would do uh, when we would have an incident or
do an exercise that was part of Monday morning quarterbacking?
What went wrong? What can we fix? What can we
do better? This is a situation where they have known
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for decades. Actually they've known for centuries, but they've known
in terms of the urban wildland interface, they've known for
decades that this potential exists. So when Eugene Robinson asked
the question, you know, we're three one million yelling tanks enough, No,
there was not. If you understood, go into Google Earth.
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Go to Google Earth, just type in Los Angeles and
just then zoom out and just look at how huge
geographically that area is.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Right, and they were full, and yet that was not
nearly enough.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Well, the question really answers itself.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
They should have had more, and Elizabeth, there are parallels
also with what's happening in Los Angeles right now, where
you have people moving into areas where wildfires spread. So
it's not like urban fires and so as as homes, communities,
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buildings move into these areas that are going to have
historically been swept by wildfires. It reminds me of what's
happening in Florida with hurricanes, where insurance companies are just
starting to say we can't ensure your homes anymore because
they're in flood zones.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
It does seem what change.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Has really become a huge factor in all of this.
I mean, it's been happening in other parts of the world.
We've been doing stories for years about islands disappearing, you know,
and you know, I remember.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Islands disappearing really because of climate chain, because of rising
sea levels. How about because of erosion?
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Erosion It's editing is three years ago also about Miami
being underwater even at low tide, and it's just become
now much more of a catastrophe, and much.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
More of a catastrophe in the United ctitate.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
I mean, I also think in Los Angeles it's not
quite a failure of imagination, but I don't think anyone
ever imagined to be these kind of wildfires in such
an urban area.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Do they pay at the news? Now, there are several
ways to dissect and deconstruct that statement. No one could
have imagined a wildfire like this in an urban area.
So they're either so ef and arrogant that they don't
and they've never heard of, say the Marshall fire. That's
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an urban area that's just north of where I'm sitting
right now, and it was catastrophic to that area. But
you see, they're part of the cabal. So we're flyover country,
so they don't care. But on the other hand, deconstruct
it this way that made national news, that was wall
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to wall coverage by the cabal. The Marshall fire because
of it was a wild land an urban interface fire
that moved into the urbanized area and destroyed all of
the thousands of homes. So it's not a failure of imagination.
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It's a failure to pay attention. It's a failure to
recognize that we live in a different world. I forget
the stats that I gave earlier this week, but about
the fires that have been existing for the past, you know,
twenty million years in that area of California. It's just
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that now you have the Santa Anna wins have shifted,
as they tend to do over millennia. They shift, you know,
north and south all the time, you know. And when
I say all the time, I don't mean like every month,
but I mean over you know, one hundred years, they'll
come from this direction. One hundred years later they're coming
from a different direction. I mean, why are we surprised
by that? You shouldn't be surprised by it at all.
(10:49):
So it is not a failure of imagination. It is
a failure of political leaders to do what they're supposed
to do. Oh, you mean Russia invaded Ukraine. That was
just a failure of imagination. We just failed to imagine
that would ever happen. Wait a minute, there were warnings
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that that was precisely what Vladimir Putin was going to do.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
It was always in the you know, in the far
reaches of California, right, not not in Pacific Palaces, not
in the Hollywood Hills.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
It was just the.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
Thinking was these worst fires.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Yeah, of course, yeah, we were imagining a forest fire
in Pacific Palisades.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Well, and really that's that's that's again, it's a couple
of things happening. You've got urban sprawl where people are
moving neighborhoods out the places where they never were before,
and so areas for you have more wildfires than urban fires.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
And then you have climate change and you have you
have the driver and with all of that, you have
a community, I guess, a municipality that did not keep
up with the realities of those traumatic, radical changes.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
And notice that so far, we finally get Joe Scarborough
to admit that their belief is that you know, this
was unpredicted because of climate change, but then they swerve
immediately into so it was a failure of local officials.
They're building the barriers around Gavin Newsom, trying to protect
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him at old costs because that's their savior. It's not
Kamala Harris. She may think she's going to run for
president again, but she's not going to get it the nomination.
The Golden Boy has to get it. So it's a
fight between the golden boy and the gay boy have
been Boulder. That's where the real battle is right now.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
In my opinion, just like the Ninth Ward and New Orleans,
this should be a wake up call, very late, but
a wakeup call not only to Los Angeles and to California,
but to politic titians, local state politicians across America that
you have to just.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
A personal note here. So when they're trying to draw
the parallels between the Lower ninth Ward in New Orleans
and what's going on in Pacific Palisades, Malibu and all
the other areas of Los Angeles and that state and
local officials should have been and federal officials should have
been aware. We were, We were absolutely aware and so
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when I decided that it was time to do true
catastrophic disaster planning, the number one item to test. I
went to Congress asked for several million dollars to do
this kind of planning, and number one on my list
was New Orleans, because we all knew about New Orleans,
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and so we put together eight started with the tabletop exercise,
which would eventually lead to a full field exercise. And
the tabletop exercise failed. It could not even finish. The
exercise could not even finish. That happened in two thousand
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and four, I think in two thousand and five, late
two thousand and five, early two thousand and six, I
was asked by a member of Congress, well, if you
knew that this exercise failed in two thousand, early two
thousand and five, why did you not fix it? And
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I remember thinking I may have been Susan Collins. I
can't say that for sure, but I remember thinking, your dumbass,
you really think that if I identify something, let's just
say in January of two thousand and five, that there
are all these problems with New Orleans, the levies, the
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political structure, the corruption, the emergency manager was facing, federal
corruption charges And you think that I'm going to fix that.
Katrina landed in August, so you think in eight months
I can fix all of that. Those are systemic problems
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that take years to fix. It took them years to
fix the levies. Now they sped it up. Probably would
have taken the Army Corps of Engineers even longer, but
they sped it up because they knew that now they
had they had a telescopic lens on them, they had
a microscope on them. But this is how stupid people
are when it comes to just how ignorant and how
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incompetent government officials are when it comes to this kind
of disaster. And by the way, at least they did
this in California, which they did not do in New Orleans,
and that was, oh, you know what we ought to do.
We ought to evacuate.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
People fight the new battle and with urban sprawl, with
climate change, with people moving into flood zones, with people
moving into zones where their wildfires, something's gonna give. That
happened in Katrina, It's happened here.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Now. Over the next few weeks, you're going to hear
not just the Joe Scarboroughs of the world, but you're
going to hear Governor Newsoen, Mayor Bass and the entire
Democrat Party tell you that there's nothing that could have
been done to prevent those fires from destroying Los Angeles.
That's a lie. These could have been prevented, absolutely, unequivalently
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could have been prevented. And I want to walk through
that since we're obviously not going to hear anything about
Donald Trump today, because you know, I guess in a way,
it's kind of good and maybe I'm just trying to
rationalize the fact that I didn't get to hear what
I wanted to hear today.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Oh soon soon audio.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Trunk criminal sentencing hearing, So I guess they're going to
release it later, so maybe we'll be able to play
some of it later. But what drives me absolutely, Bady,
is they do all these things that they or they
don't do, all these things that they could have been doing,
and now, oh, we're going to find something else.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
To blame, so climate change.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Well have you thought about this? If they diverted money
because they needed to address climate change, that didn't seem
to work either, did it.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Michael?
Speaker 8 (17:31):
Is there anything they can do to this phony fake
bias corrupt criminal Judge Ken Pam BONDI cash for tell
anybody go after this clown?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Well, generically speaking, yes, they can go after him. But
the question then is for what and is it legitimate
or not legitimate? I think that I think he committed
judicial ethical errors and complaints. Don't hold me to this,
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but it seems to me. I've read somewhere that some
people have filed much like they have with Fanny Willis
in Georgia, and I think even with Letitia James, the
Attorney General of New York, I think they have with
Judge Walmer Shawn. Some groups have filed judicial commission complaints
like bar complaints. You know, a lawyer, you know embezzles
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your money, or a lawyer fails to meet a deadline
and so the statue limitations runs and now you can't
sue somebody. Well, you can always file a bar complaint.
And the same is true with judges. When judges violate
their code of ethics, they're canons of ethics, you can
file complaints against them, and public interest groups can do
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that on behalf of the public. So there could be
some remedy that they could pursue through the through the
judicial system. But the best thing that can happen to
this judge is that either the New York Supreme Court
or the Appellate Court slap him down and reverse all
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of these charges and slap him down in their opinion
on the jury instructions, slap down the district attorney on
how he built this convoluted case, how it denied Trump
due process. I mean, and even if the New York
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Supreme Court doesn't do it, then you have the chance
that the New York Appellate Court could do it. And
then if they don't do it, then Trump can take
a violation of his civil rights case and take that
to the US Supreme Court and they could review that.
So there are I mean, it's not over. I mean,
it's over ins far as Trump's concern. And the Democrats
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now have what they want. If indeed the unconditional discharge
has been imposed as the sentence, and the sentence has
been gabbled in, they can now say that Trump is
a convicted felon. And that's all they wanted, that's all
they've been after this entire time. Well, they actually wanted
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more than that. They wanted to destroy the campaign. But
they utterly, utterly failed in that, and in fact, I
think these cases were part of the reason that Trump won.
I think many people on the left, liberals, maybe even
some Republicans that don't like Trump. I think that they
saw what was going on and they said, you know what,
they could be me, and I'm not going to have it,
and so they voted against him. So let's go back
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to the fires. Because we just heard MSNBC talk about
how was climate change and that all of this could
have been avoided. All of this could have been prevented
is the word that they used. Well, let's think about
what went on. So Governor Knewsom cut the funding for
the prevention of forest fires because we talk about you know,
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Smokey Bear talks about preventing forest fires. He failed to
build sufficient water resources to fight the fires. Mayor Bass
we know cut. Now I've heard two different numbers. I've
heard twenty three million and I've heard seventeen and a
half million dollars. She cut one of those two figures,
at a minimum seventeen and a half at the max
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twenty three million maybe more in funding for the LAFB.
And then she tross off to Ghana and she knew
of the risks. Now, how do I know she knew
of the risks because someone on her staff had her
sign an emergency order declaring a state of emergency for
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the City and County of Los Angeles about the potential
for wildfires. Now, if it's bad enough that you're going
to declare an emergency in advance of any fire, you
don't then as a responsible politician, as a responsible elected official,
you don't then get on a plane and go to Ghana.
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That has nothing to do with LA unless she's got
some deal going like Eric Adams did with was it
Turkey or whatever deal he had going where he got
free air flights on Turkey share and got some graft
and some money back or whatever. Maybe maybe she's got
something like that going on. I haven't heard that, But
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you have to ask why Ghana and why now. But
let's start with the baseline. The baseline is that California
in general and LA in particular are places that are
subjected to these fires. There's probably not a year goes
by that there's not. Even if nothing ever occurs, there's
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always a story about, oh my gosh, it hasn't rained
in several months. It's really dry right now, there's a
chance of the wildfires. We're all worried about it, so
the cabal will start talking about how bad this will
potentially be, even if nothing ever happens. Now, let's think
about Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass as individuals Native Californians.
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They've lived there their entire lives. They know about the hazards,
they've known about these hazards for their entire careers as politicians,
and they it's just rank incompetence and it's a lack
of leadership that truly should be scandalous. Let's think about
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water management. We'll get to force management all of that
in the mean, Let's just think about water management for
a moment. The firefighters don't have the water they need,
and they have not had the water they need. Gavin
Newsom has not built a new reservoir that's needed by LA,
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whether that's one, two or three more that I'll leave
that up to the engineers and the hydrologists and and
and to the firefighters. But he even cut the budget
for water infrastructure projects just last year. Why because they
were focused on other things climate change, homelessness. And the
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reason they were focused on those things is because that's
what the radical left, the Marxist progressive wing of the
Democrat Party that controls the party wanted them to focus on.
And so being the good little acolytes that they are
of the Marxist wing of the Democrat Party and being
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power hungry as all these politicians are, that's their focus.
So they focus on trans rights, they focus on illegal
alien rights, they focus on homelessness rights, they focus on
things like let's not prosecute people for you know, stealing
things that are under a thousand dollars. They focus on Trump,
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they focus on climate change. Do any of those things, well,
imagine me. Those things do matter that the people of California.
But do things like climate change and trans rights does
that matter to an ordinary California Probably not. And that's
because Democrats in California are like Democrats and other states.
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Go back to Jared Polus the State of the State address.
Did you hear anything? Did he give you any specifics
about how he would lower the cost of construction and
housing and transportation, just the cost of living in Colorado? No? No,
because the things that they do, the things that they want,
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is what causes the cost of living to be so high.
So they cannot admit, because they would have to say, look,
we're going to bring down the cost of housing because
we're going to lower property taxes, we're going to lower
sales taxes, or we're going to cut out some of
these regulations that impose all these greenhouse green energy requirements
that quite frankly, we don't really need and are proving
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to be completely worthless when it comes to truly, if
you believe in anthropogenic climate change, these policies do nothing
to change our effect on the climate. If you believe that,
I don't believe it. I don't think we affect the
climate enough to make one little twit of difference. So
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the Democrats in California just like the Democrats in Colorado.
And that's why I say we need to be careful
and we need to watch what's happening in California, because,
as we know, those things tend to follow. They come
right across the continental divide and they end up here.
Look at the stupid Look at look at the climate
policies that we have in Colorado. It's no different than
climate policies in California. We got the same, you know,
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zero emission standards. It's insane what we allow these people
to do. But I think that people tend to become
as they get older, they tend to kind of become
a little more moderate, a little more conservative, and they
become more, I think, a lot more realistic. You take
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college age kids, maybe fresh out of school, and then
they get a job, or they can't get a job.
But when they do get the job, and they've been
told their pay is, you know, they're gonna make a
thousand dollars a month, and so they think they're making
twelve thousand dollars a year and they get their first
paycheck and they realize, oh that my take home is
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really only about eight thousand dollars a year. You think
that doesn't wake them up. So as you become more practical,
you understand that firefighters and cops is a necessary element
of our society. It's one of the things that is
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and in what we call in government an inherently governmental purpose.
You know, the Office of Management and Budget would require
me as the under secretary to go through all of
the programs. I think I had to do this annually,
and I had to designate things that we did that
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were inherently governmental, something that nobody else could do, and
The reason OMB wanted that done was so that when
they analyzed programs and they analyze our spending, and they
analyze the appropriations and the budget, say for DHS slash FEMA,
they could if they wanted to, if they wanted to
cut or trim, they could trim things that were not
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inherently governmental well, roads, bridges, highways, cups, firefighters, and unfortunately,
I think education has been determined to be an inherently
government subject, an inherently government function. So then we get
reminded of the importance of the things like you know,
how safe are our streets? And then you realize that, oh,
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when I work and they take some of those taxes,
I expect those that tax money that they steal from
me force from me is going to be used for
inherently government purposes. But if you really look around you
and you think about these radical Marxist policies the environment, homelessness, crime, education, water,
everything else, do you realize that maybe they're not spending
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the money on the right things, and that maybe the
things are spending money on are not inherently governmental functions.
Take homelessness, for example, well to antake it and let
me take a break and they will take homelessness for
an example.
Speaker 9 (29:42):
Dragon Michael. So, I'm listening to the iHeart app and
I catch a spot. I don't know whether it was
the over the air or whether it was streaming, but
this lady's promoting the iHeart app and says, it is
so much fun to put presets into the app. Look,
I use the presets. I think it's handy, but come on,
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it was so much fun. They're really trying to sell
this one, aren't they.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
You're just using it wrong.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
That's right, because when we use it, our phones explode
with like money.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
And treats, glitter and rainbows, litter.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Rainbow everything. It's kind of a mesty, clean not but
it is kind of fun. And then when I touch it,
it's almost orgasmic. I mean, it's just simply amazing. In fact,
I'm thinking about dropping Rocky Mountain mensic and they can
just saying all you need to do is just touch
the iHeartRadio app and that boom. Do you do a
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preset and maybe you can last for hours, just hours
with why are you dropping your head back? Why do
you bow your head like that? Sometimes?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Igor said something funny, oh okay, and Kelly said something funny,
not you. I would never be laughing or dropping my head.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
At you to prove my point about I just like
to want ignore, to prove my point that all they
wanted to get was the conviction. Let's go to CNN.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Ready, that's pretty orderly, all things said.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
Donald Trump seems to have gone on a little bit
of a tiree, but nothing unpredictable, nothing different from what
he said before. One thing that I think is interesting
is there's been no talk whatsoever except from Donald Trump
about the actual conduct that Donald Trump has tried and
found guilty for. For a while, the DA was trying
to say this, this conduct of hiding the hush money payments.
Is that. Okay, there we go. So that's the official
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moment of the sentence. Donald Trump has now been sentenced
to an unconditional discharge.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
What does that mean?
Speaker 7 (31:45):
That means that it is now official that Donald Trump
has been convicted of a felony. There's two parts of
that equation, the conviction and now we have part two,
the sentence. So, uh, that is a moment we now
have Donald Trump. I guess you can, technically, if you
would like to call him a convicted felon. That is
a label that now technically applies.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
But of course he does have his appeal rights.
Speaker 7 (32:03):
But again the focus has been okay, lawyers are packing.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Up, so you judge Murshawan is off the bench. It
happened that quickly in a lot.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
Of ways, not that different from any other sense thing.
It took thirty eight minutes. That's about average for a
sentencing in state core. But the focus has largely been
on Trump's out of.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Court communis calen, what do you think you've been watching
all this?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Bah? There you got it. He's now a convicted felon.
Oh by the way, whisper, whisper. Of course he still
has the appeals. But yeah, we won't mention about that.
So back to my theory. But as we get older,
we get a little more moderate, a little more conservative,
and we get a little more practical. And when you do,
(32:41):
you and you look at the nature or the consequences,
but look at the consequences of the progressive Marxist policies
about the environment, homelessness, crime, education, water, all these things
filt crime. You suddenly realize that, oh wait a minute,
that's stuff that really affects me. You know, my new
(33:06):
wife or my new husband, or I've now I've got
a child, whatever, you now realize there are real world
consequences to this, you know, academic kind of exercise that
you've been going through when it comes to homelessness or
the environment. Well, let me ask you about homelessness, because
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why does the city and County of Denver, for example,
spend one hundred and fifty five million plus on homelessness?
Is not bear with me? This is tough for some people.
Is homelessness an inherently governmental problem? Now, I know that
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the the consequences of homelessness might be a government problem,
because if a homeless person is committing a crime, then
now you've got a inherently government entity law enforcement that
has to deal with that homelessness. But that's true with
even someone who has a home. So the question is
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is the being homeless an inherently governmental problem? The libertarian
in me says that it is not. That homelessness is
an issue that needs to be dealt with and handled
by the nonprofit sector, or for that matter, of the
private sector if they think there's a way to make
(34:33):
a profit on it. It's not an inherently governmental problem. But
yet we've been led to believe over eons of political
kind of progressivism, that all of these things are problems
that the government needs to deal with. And now in
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California they see the consequences. Oh, you don't have the money.
You've got fire trucks sitting in a store reach yard
because you can't hire mechanics, because you cut the budget
to pay for homelessness.
But somebody please ask the governor if he's checked on
the safety of the smelt.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Oh, yeah, the smelt. Oh my gosh, what we can
do with the smelt, the pearls smelt, smelt, smelt, smelt.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Forgive my ignorance, but smelt is a fish, right.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Smelts a little fish. It's a little silver Minnow, it's
probably I'm guessing, of course, you know what guys think
about six inches, but I'm guessing somewhere between five.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Or six inches about that.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
That's about that. It's about the size of a spring whale. Yeah,
about that size. Yeah, we still don't see Trump's been speaking, uh,
Fox says Judge Merchant talking to the court. So and Dragon,
you still don't hear anything.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Correct down the ABC satellite feed. We're just getting room
noise or crowd noise. And from what I had heard
earlier on Fox News is that they're they're still they're
waiting for the transcript so they can tell us what happens.
So I don't know if there's really audio that they
are able to broadcast from the courtroom.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
See, this is an interesting twist because it's been just
shouted everywhere that he was going to allow audio. Well,
maybe what's really happening is now generally this is for
the for the court reporter's purposes. It will be recorded
(01:35):
so that the clerk, the court reporters, the stenographer can
go back and make certain as she's or he is
putting together the transcript, if there are some in audibles
or whatever, she can go back and he or can
go back and check that and then correct the transcript.
So maybe it's just that they're going to release that
(01:56):
audio later. I thought they were going to actually let
us hear take it live. Yeah, because if merchant If
Mashawn insists, they're dealing with a unique set of circumstances
and he's now getting ready to actually sentence Donald Trump.
I want to hear that. I want to hear it.
I don't I don't want to read about it. I
(02:16):
don't want to hear it. And I know that many
people probably disagree with that because they don't want to broadcast.
But I want to broadcast, just like I think that
the trial should have been broadcast. But that's just me.
I This whole thing about no courts and or no
(02:39):
cameras in court rooms, I think sometimes is gone just
a little too far. So we'll just continue to see
no prison, no probation, no conditions, no fec Sherlock really
like what you can't leave the way? You can't leave
the west wing, yes, today in the east wing you
got the east wing, West wing. You can't. You can't
(03:01):
leave there. Do do do do do do. I'm just
trying to read the chiron and read the uh close captioning,
and we're not gonna I don't think we're gonna get
any I'm so disappointed and we're gonna get anything after all.
So instead, let's go back to the fires, because there
(03:24):
is this idea floating around surprise surprise that oh uh,
these wildfires were not entirely unexpected. Why But I.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Just the longer we get into this, the more I
think about how New Orleans didn't invest in their levee system.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Joe Starborough at MSNBC says that the problem in Knowlans
in two thousand and five was that for decades prior
to that, they had never invested in maintaining the levees
to protect the city of New Orleans that lives below
sea level. Eugene Robinson, who was a columnist for The
(04:09):
Washington Post, I think he still does that. I'm not sure,
but now they want to tell you why.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
How they they didn't invest in critical infrastructure and people
died because of it, And it's just it's it's hard
to hear people say I'm one of the richest cities
in the world that, oh, we just we don't have
enough water to protect people's homes.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Yeah, well, you know, it's the system is designed to
fight a big fire. It's just not designed to fight
what happened and which was which is not entirely you know,
un expectable, right, and because of climate change and because
of the way the weather patterns have gone the last
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couple of years. But you fight at fire that huge
from the air, You've got to get your coppers and
your planes up dropping water on something that big, and
they couldn't get the planes up.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Which is only partially true. You have to attack a
wildfire from every angle on the ground and in the air.
You have to fight. You firefighting is a complex profession,
and particularly in a wildfire and one that's being spread
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as rapidly as this is through an urban area, because
in the wild land you can attack it through on
the air with helicopters and tanker planes, but you can
also attack it on the ground with water. So you
take water tanks and trucks and you get into the
forest and you start trying to put out the fire
at the same time that you're building a backfire and
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digging trenches so that the fire can't jump and keep moving.
So that's the when you hear the word containment, that's
kind of what they're talking about. So there's no containment
going on. It's not just through the air. There was.
There was no fighting this fire, no fighting these fires
on the ground because of the lack of water. But MSNBC,
(06:16):
as most of the cabal said, they can't help themselves.
That's not the only.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Problem because of the high winds and so you know,
should there be a more robust infrastructure is should there
have been more than three million gallon tanks up on
Pacific Pals. It was just what they were what there was,
and they were.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Think about how their Monday morning quarterbacking, not because there's something. Look,
I don't object to Monday morning quarterbacking. When when we
would do uh, when we would have an incident or
do an exercise that was part of Monday morning quarterbacking?
What went wrong? What can we fix? What can we
do better? This is a situation where they have known
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for decades. Actually they've known for centuries, but they've known
in terms of the urban wildland interface, they've known for
decades that this potential exists. So when Eugene Robinson asked
the question, you know, we're three one million yelling tanks enough, No,
there was not. If you understood, go into Google Earth.
(07:23):
Go to Google Earth, just type in Los Angeles and
just then zoom out and just look at how huge
geographically that area is.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Right, and they were full, and yet that was not
nearly enough.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Well, the question really answers itself.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
They should have had more, and Elizabeth, there are parallels
also with what's happening in Los Angeles right now, where
you have people moving into areas where wildfires spread. So
it's not like urban fires and so as as homes, communities,
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buildings move into these areas that are going to have
historically been swept by wildfires. It reminds me of what's
happening in Florida with hurricanes, where insurance companies are just
starting to say we can't ensure your homes anymore because
they're in flood zones.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
It does seem what change.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Has really become a huge factor in all of this.
I mean, it's been happening in other parts of the world.
We've been doing stories for years about islands disappearing, you know,
and you know, I remember.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Islands disappearing really because of climate chain, because of rising
sea levels. How about because of erosion?
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Erosion It's editing is three years ago also about Miami
being underwater even at low tide, and it's just become
now much more of a catastrophe, and much.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
More of a catastrophe in the United ctitate.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
I mean, I also think in Los Angeles it's not
quite a failure of imagination, but I don't think anyone
ever imagined to be these kind of wildfires in such
an urban area.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Do they pay at the news? Now, there are several
ways to dissect and deconstruct that statement. No one could
have imagined a wildfire like this in an urban area.
So they're either so ef and arrogant that they don't
and they've never heard of, say the Marshall fire. That's
(09:22):
an urban area that's just north of where I'm sitting
right now, and it was catastrophic to that area. But
you see, they're part of the cabal. So we're flyover country,
so they don't care. But on the other hand, deconstruct
it this way that made national news, that was wall
(09:45):
to wall coverage by the cabal. The Marshall fire because
of it was a wild land an urban interface fire
that moved into the urbanized area and destroyed all of
the thousands of homes. So it's not a failure of imagination.
(10:05):
It's a failure to pay attention. It's a failure to
recognize that we live in a different world. I forget
the stats that I gave earlier this week, but about
the fires that have been existing for the past, you know,
twenty million years in that area of California. It's just
(10:26):
that now you have the Santa Anna wins have shifted,
as they tend to do over millennia. They shift, you know,
north and south all the time, you know. And when
I say all the time, I don't mean like every month,
but I mean over you know, one hundred years, they'll
come from this direction. One hundred years later they're coming
from a different direction. I mean, why are we surprised
by that? You shouldn't be surprised by it at all.
(10:49):
So it is not a failure of imagination. It is
a failure of political leaders to do what they're supposed
to do. Oh, you mean Russia invaded Ukraine. That was
just a failure of imagination. We just failed to imagine
that would ever happen. Wait a minute, there were warnings
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that that was precisely what Vladimir Putin was going to do.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
It was always in the you know, in the far
reaches of California, right, not not in Pacific Palaces, not
in the Hollywood Hills.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
It was just the.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
Thinking was these worst fires.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Yeah, of course, yeah, we were imagining a forest fire
in Pacific Palisades.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Well, and really that's that's that's again, it's a couple
of things happening. You've got urban sprawl where people are
moving neighborhoods out the places where they never were before,
and so areas for you have more wildfires than urban fires.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
And then you have climate change and you have you
have the driver and with all of that, you have
a community, I guess, a municipality that did not keep
up with the realities of those traumatic, radical changes.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
And notice that so far, we finally get Joe Scarborough
to admit that their belief is that you know, this
was unpredicted because of climate change, but then they swerve
immediately into so it was a failure of local officials.
They're building the barriers around Gavin Newsom, trying to protect
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him at old costs because that's their savior. It's not
Kamala Harris. She may think she's going to run for
president again, but she's not going to get it the nomination.
The Golden Boy has to get it. So it's a
fight between the golden boy and the gay boy have
been Boulder. That's where the real battle is right now.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
In my opinion, just like the Ninth Ward and New Orleans,
this should be a wake up call, very late, but
a wakeup call not only to Los Angeles and to California,
but to politic titians, local state politicians across America that
you have to just.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
A personal note here. So when they're trying to draw
the parallels between the Lower ninth Ward in New Orleans
and what's going on in Pacific Palisades, Malibu and all
the other areas of Los Angeles and that state and
local officials should have been and federal officials should have
been aware. We were, We were absolutely aware and so
(13:30):
when I decided that it was time to do true
catastrophic disaster planning, the number one item to test. I
went to Congress asked for several million dollars to do
this kind of planning, and number one on my list
was New Orleans, because we all knew about New Orleans,
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and so we put together eight started with the tabletop exercise,
which would eventually lead to a full field exercise. And
the tabletop exercise failed. It could not even finish. The
exercise could not even finish. That happened in two thousand
(14:15):
and four, I think in two thousand and five, late
two thousand and five, early two thousand and six, I
was asked by a member of Congress, well, if you
knew that this exercise failed in two thousand, early two
thousand and five, why did you not fix it? And
(14:35):
I remember thinking I may have been Susan Collins. I
can't say that for sure, but I remember thinking, your dumbass,
you really think that if I identify something, let's just
say in January of two thousand and five, that there
are all these problems with New Orleans, the levies, the
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political structure, the corruption, the emergency manager was facing, federal
corruption charges And you think that I'm going to fix that.
Katrina landed in August, so you think in eight months
I can fix all of that. Those are systemic problems
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that take years to fix. It took them years to
fix the levies. Now they sped it up. Probably would
have taken the Army Corps of Engineers even longer, but
they sped it up because they knew that now they
had they had a telescopic lens on them, they had
a microscope on them. But this is how stupid people
are when it comes to just how ignorant and how
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incompetent government officials are when it comes to this kind
of disaster. And by the way, at least they did
this in California, which they did not do in New Orleans,
and that was, oh, you know what we ought to do.
We ought to evacuate.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
People fight the new battle and with urban sprawl, with
climate change, with people moving into flood zones, with people
moving into zones where their wildfires, something's gonna give. That
happened in Katrina, It's happened here.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Now. Over the next few weeks, you're going to hear
not just the Joe Scarboroughs of the world, but you're
going to hear Governor Newsoen, Mayor Bass and the entire
Democrat Party tell you that there's nothing that could have
been done to prevent those fires from destroying Los Angeles.
That's a lie. These could have been prevented, absolutely, unequivalently
(16:40):
could have been prevented. And I want to walk through
that since we're obviously not going to hear anything about
Donald Trump today, because you know, I guess in a way,
it's kind of good and maybe I'm just trying to
rationalize the fact that I didn't get to hear what
I wanted to hear today.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Oh soon soon audio.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Trunk criminal sentencing hearing, So I guess they're going to
release it later, so maybe we'll be able to play
some of it later. But what drives me absolutely, Bady,
is they do all these things that they or they
don't do, all these things that they could have been doing,
and now, oh, we're going to find something else.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
To blame, so climate change.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Well have you thought about this? If they diverted money
because they needed to address climate change, that didn't seem
to work either, did it.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Michael?
Speaker 8 (17:31):
Is there anything they can do to this phony fake
bias corrupt criminal Judge Ken Pam BONDI cash for tell
anybody go after this clown?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Well, generically speaking, yes, they can go after him. But
the question then is for what and is it legitimate
or not legitimate? I think that I think he committed
judicial ethical errors and complaints. Don't hold me to this,
(18:08):
but it seems to me. I've read somewhere that some
people have filed much like they have with Fanny Willis
in Georgia, and I think even with Letitia James, the
Attorney General of New York, I think they have with
Judge Walmer Shawn. Some groups have filed judicial commission complaints
like bar complaints. You know, a lawyer, you know embezzles
(18:31):
your money, or a lawyer fails to meet a deadline
and so the statue limitations runs and now you can't
sue somebody. Well, you can always file a bar complaint.
And the same is true with judges. When judges violate
their code of ethics, they're canons of ethics, you can
file complaints against them, and public interest groups can do
(18:54):
that on behalf of the public. So there could be
some remedy that they could pursue through the through the
judicial system. But the best thing that can happen to
this judge is that either the New York Supreme Court
or the Appellate Court slap him down and reverse all
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of these charges and slap him down in their opinion
on the jury instructions, slap down the district attorney on
how he built this convoluted case, how it denied Trump
due process. I mean, and even if the New York
(19:35):
Supreme Court doesn't do it, then you have the chance
that the New York Appellate Court could do it. And
then if they don't do it, then Trump can take
a violation of his civil rights case and take that
to the US Supreme Court and they could review that.
So there are I mean, it's not over. I mean,
it's over ins far as Trump's concern. And the Democrats
(19:57):
now have what they want. If indeed the unconditional discharge
has been imposed as the sentence, and the sentence has
been gabbled in, they can now say that Trump is
a convicted felon. And that's all they wanted, that's all
they've been after this entire time. Well, they actually wanted
(20:20):
more than that. They wanted to destroy the campaign. But
they utterly, utterly failed in that, and in fact, I
think these cases were part of the reason that Trump won.
I think many people on the left, liberals, maybe even
some Republicans that don't like Trump. I think that they
saw what was going on and they said, you know what,
they could be me, and I'm not going to have it,
and so they voted against him. So let's go back
(20:43):
to the fires. Because we just heard MSNBC talk about
how was climate change and that all of this could
have been avoided. All of this could have been prevented
is the word that they used. Well, let's think about
what went on. So Governor Knewsom cut the funding for
the prevention of forest fires because we talk about you know,
(21:03):
Smokey Bear talks about preventing forest fires. He failed to
build sufficient water resources to fight the fires. Mayor Bass
we know cut. Now I've heard two different numbers. I've
heard twenty three million and I've heard seventeen and a
half million dollars. She cut one of those two figures,
at a minimum seventeen and a half at the max
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twenty three million maybe more in funding for the LAFB.
And then she tross off to Ghana and she knew
of the risks. Now, how do I know she knew
of the risks because someone on her staff had her
sign an emergency order declaring a state of emergency for
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the City and County of Los Angeles about the potential
for wildfires. Now, if it's bad enough that you're going
to declare an emergency in advance of any fire, you
don't then as a responsible politician, as a responsible elected official,
you don't then get on a plane and go to Ghana.
(22:07):
That has nothing to do with LA unless she's got
some deal going like Eric Adams did with was it
Turkey or whatever deal he had going where he got
free air flights on Turkey share and got some graft
and some money back or whatever. Maybe maybe she's got
something like that going on. I haven't heard that, But
(22:28):
you have to ask why Ghana and why now. But
let's start with the baseline. The baseline is that California
in general and LA in particular are places that are
subjected to these fires. There's probably not a year goes
by that there's not. Even if nothing ever occurs, there's
(22:51):
always a story about, oh my gosh, it hasn't rained
in several months. It's really dry right now, there's a
chance of the wildfires. We're all worried about it, so
the cabal will start talking about how bad this will
potentially be, even if nothing ever happens. Now, let's think
about Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass as individuals Native Californians.
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They've lived there their entire lives. They know about the hazards,
they've known about these hazards for their entire careers as politicians,
and they it's just rank incompetence and it's a lack
of leadership that truly should be scandalous. Let's think about
(23:37):
water management. We'll get to force management all of that
in the mean, Let's just think about water management for
a moment. The firefighters don't have the water they need,
and they have not had the water they need. Gavin
Newsom has not built a new reservoir that's needed by LA,
(23:58):
whether that's one, two or three more that I'll leave
that up to the engineers and the hydrologists and and
and to the firefighters. But he even cut the budget
for water infrastructure projects just last year. Why because they
were focused on other things climate change, homelessness. And the
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reason they were focused on those things is because that's
what the radical left, the Marxist progressive wing of the
Democrat Party that controls the party wanted them to focus on.
And so being the good little acolytes that they are
of the Marxist wing of the Democrat Party and being
(24:39):
power hungry as all these politicians are, that's their focus.
So they focus on trans rights, they focus on illegal
alien rights, they focus on homelessness rights, they focus on
things like let's not prosecute people for you know, stealing
things that are under a thousand dollars. They focus on Trump,
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they focus on climate change. Do any of those things, well,
imagine me. Those things do matter that the people of California.
But do things like climate change and trans rights does
that matter to an ordinary California Probably not. And that's
because Democrats in California are like Democrats and other states.
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Go back to Jared Polus the State of the State address.
Did you hear anything? Did he give you any specifics
about how he would lower the cost of construction and
housing and transportation, just the cost of living in Colorado? No? No,
because the things that they do, the things that they want,
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is what causes the cost of living to be so high.
So they cannot admit, because they would have to say, look,
we're going to bring down the cost of housing because
we're going to lower property taxes, we're going to lower
sales taxes, or we're going to cut out some of
these regulations that impose all these greenhouse green energy requirements
that quite frankly, we don't really need and are proving
(26:10):
to be completely worthless when it comes to truly, if
you believe in anthropogenic climate change, these policies do nothing
to change our effect on the climate. If you believe that,
I don't believe it. I don't think we affect the
climate enough to make one little twit of difference. So
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the Democrats in California just like the Democrats in Colorado.
And that's why I say we need to be careful
and we need to watch what's happening in California, because,
as we know, those things tend to follow. They come
right across the continental divide and they end up here.
Look at the stupid Look at look at the climate
policies that we have in Colorado. It's no different than
climate policies in California. We got the same, you know,
(26:54):
zero emission standards. It's insane what we allow these people
to do. But I think that people tend to become
as they get older, they tend to kind of become
a little more moderate, a little more conservative, and they
become more, I think, a lot more realistic. You take
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college age kids, maybe fresh out of school, and then
they get a job, or they can't get a job.
But when they do get the job, and they've been
told their pay is, you know, they're gonna make a
thousand dollars a month, and so they think they're making
twelve thousand dollars a year and they get their first
paycheck and they realize, oh that my take home is
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really only about eight thousand dollars a year. You think
that doesn't wake them up. So as you become more practical,
you understand that firefighters and cops is a necessary element
of our society. It's one of the things that is
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and in what we call in government an inherently governmental purpose.
You know, the Office of Management and Budget would require
me as the under secretary to go through all of
the programs. I think I had to do this annually,
and I had to designate things that we did that
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were inherently governmental, something that nobody else could do, and
The reason OMB wanted that done was so that when
they analyzed programs and they analyze our spending, and they
analyze the appropriations and the budget, say for DHS slash FEMA,
they could if they wanted to, if they wanted to
cut or trim, they could trim things that were not
(28:43):
inherently governmental well, roads, bridges, highways, cups, firefighters, and unfortunately,
I think education has been determined to be an inherently
government subject, an inherently government function. So then we get
reminded of the importance of the things like you know,
how safe are our streets? And then you realize that, oh,
(29:05):
when I work and they take some of those taxes,
I expect those that tax money that they steal from
me force from me is going to be used for
inherently government purposes. But if you really look around you
and you think about these radical Marxist policies the environment, homelessness, crime, education, water,
everything else, do you realize that maybe they're not spending
(29:27):
the money on the right things, and that maybe the
things are spending money on are not inherently governmental functions.
Take homelessness, for example, well to antake it and let
me take a break and they will take homelessness for
an example.
Speaker 9 (29:42):
Dragon Michael. So, I'm listening to the iHeart app and
I catch a spot. I don't know whether it was
the over the air or whether it was streaming, but
this lady's promoting the iHeart app and says, it is
so much fun to put presets into the app. Look,
I use the presets. I think it's handy, but come on,
(30:04):
it was so much fun. They're really trying to sell
this one, aren't they.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
You're just using it wrong.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
That's right, because when we use it, our phones explode
with like money.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
And treats, glitter and rainbows, litter.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Rainbow everything. It's kind of a mesty, clean not but
it is kind of fun. And then when I touch it,
it's almost orgasmic. I mean, it's just simply amazing. In fact,
I'm thinking about dropping Rocky Mountain mensic and they can
just saying all you need to do is just touch
the iHeartRadio app and that boom. Do you do a
(30:41):
preset and maybe you can last for hours, just hours
with why are you dropping your head back? Why do
you bow your head like that? Sometimes?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Igor said something funny, oh okay, and Kelly said something funny,
not you. I would never be laughing or dropping my head.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
At you to prove my point about I just like
to want ignore, to prove my point that all they
wanted to get was the conviction. Let's go to CNN.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Ready, that's pretty orderly, all things said.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
Donald Trump seems to have gone on a little bit
of a tiree, but nothing unpredictable, nothing different from what
he said before. One thing that I think is interesting
is there's been no talk whatsoever except from Donald Trump
about the actual conduct that Donald Trump has tried and
found guilty for. For a while, the DA was trying
to say this, this conduct of hiding the hush money payments.
Is that. Okay, there we go. So that's the official
(31:40):
moment of the sentence. Donald Trump has now been sentenced
to an unconditional discharge.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
What does that mean?
Speaker 7 (31:45):
That means that it is now official that Donald Trump
has been convicted of a felony. There's two parts of
that equation, the conviction and now we have part two,
the sentence. So, uh, that is a moment we now
have Donald Trump. I guess you can, technically, if you
would like to call him a convicted felon. That is
a label that now technically applies.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
But of course he does have his appeal rights.
Speaker 7 (32:03):
But again the focus has been okay, lawyers are packing.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Up, so you judge Murshawan is off the bench. It
happened that quickly in a lot.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
Of ways, not that different from any other sense thing.
It took thirty eight minutes. That's about average for a
sentencing in state core. But the focus has largely been
on Trump's out of.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Court communis calen, what do you think you've been watching
all this?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Bah? There you got it. He's now a convicted felon.
Oh by the way, whisper, whisper. Of course he still
has the appeals. But yeah, we won't mention about that.
So back to my theory. But as we get older,
we get a little more moderate, a little more conservative,
and we get a little more practical. And when you do,
(32:41):
you and you look at the nature or the consequences,
but look at the consequences of the progressive Marxist policies
about the environment, homelessness, crime, education, water, all these things
filt crime. You suddenly realize that, oh wait a minute,
that's stuff that really affects me. You know, my new
(33:06):
wife or my new husband, or I've now I've got
a child, whatever, you now realize there are real world
consequences to this, you know, academic kind of exercise that
you've been going through when it comes to homelessness or
the environment. Well, let me ask you about homelessness, because
(33:27):
why does the city and County of Denver, for example,
spend one hundred and fifty five million plus on homelessness?
Is not bear with me? This is tough for some people.
Is homelessness an inherently governmental problem? Now, I know that
(33:49):
the the consequences of homelessness might be a government problem,
because if a homeless person is committing a crime, then
now you've got a inherently government entity law enforcement that
has to deal with that homelessness. But that's true with
even someone who has a home. So the question is
(34:13):
is the being homeless an inherently governmental problem? The libertarian
in me says that it is not. That homelessness is
an issue that needs to be dealt with and handled
by the nonprofit sector, or for that matter, of the
private sector if they think there's a way to make
(34:33):
a profit on it. It's not an inherently governmental problem. But
yet we've been led to believe over eons of political
kind of progressivism, that all of these things are problems
that the government needs to deal with. And now in
(34:54):
California they see the consequences. Oh, you don't have the money.
You've got fire trucks sitting in a store reach yard
because you can't hire mechanics, because you cut the budget
to pay for homelessness.
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