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On six thirty K HOW Denver's talk station, five minutes
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minutes left for American democracy. Here we are in the

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waning hours of democracy. As you know, the election of
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way it should be news. News should be easy, all right.
Right now, I've got an eye on all the different areas.
That's that's gonna be in use today at the White House.
Right now, we cannot see inside, but we saw outside
as Kamala Harris and her husband m Hoff.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Welcomed JD.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Vance and his wife, and then Biden and Missus Biden
welcome Trump and Milania. And so they're all in having
a wonderful.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Cup of coffee together.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
I bet they're having just a joyful time because, as
you know, they all have such wonderful and great respect
for one another. I will say this, I am not
much for pomp and circumstance. I have no need for ceremony.
Ceremony for me, is just something that keeps people in line.

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I question all ceremonies. If there is a ceremony that matters.
If there is symbolism that matters. I believe the smooth
transition of power is an important one. I remember, I
believe it was Nixon's funeral. Nixon's funeral, and in the

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front row of the funeral was Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter,
Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and then President Clinton.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
So there's this wonderful photograph.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Of of five presidents honoring another president at his funeral.
And that photograph, for me, just spoke volumes of the
smooth transition of power in this country. It's something you

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did not see in the Soviet Union. It's something you
did not see in China. It is something you did
not see in country after country after country after country,
and we forget that this tradition started here, and when

(04:35):
it ends here, it ends everywhere else, which one of
the reasons I was really disappointed in Trump four years
ago when the outcome of the reality of the situation
was that he was not going to fight the election

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any longer. An opportunity, a real opportunity to do what
the Bidens are doing and what every former president has done,
which is play a part of the transition and power.
You sit there and you look at that photograph and
listen to the speech of John F. Kennedy when he's

(05:20):
talking about the touch has been passed to a new generation.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
And he goes on to.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Talk about basically how the old generation sucked and we
the young people, well, now it's our turn.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Now.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
It's a pretty amazing speech. But you know, that old
generation that he was dissing was sitting right beside him.
There was Eisenhower sitting a couple feet behind him. And
next to Eisenhower was Kennedy's opponent, Richard Nixon. Vice President

(06:01):
Richard Nixon.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Who either way.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Had had to certify the electoral votes in Congress as
president of the United States Senate. There was more direct
evidence provable evidence of Kennedy's mischief in that election than

(06:29):
Biden's mischief in his. But yet Nixon made the decision
for the sake of the country not to fight his
loss to Kennedy. And when you looked at a few
counties in Illinois and a few Texas, man, there was

(06:49):
some funny business going on. So today is a bit
of the same thing. And that you're to have, you're
gonna have Biden, although I have certainly he has no
idea what's going on around him sitting there as as

(07:10):
the next president takes off and says how awful his
successor was.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Sorry, three oh three seven one three eight two five
five seven to one three talk at the state Capitol.
We see the VIPs now getting off of buses, the
buses that took them there, because there's very limited, very
limited space to to get into that rotunda. And if

(07:43):
I'm looking at the pictures right, I'm seeing my friend.
I think that's my friend Chris Wright, the new Energy
secretary who will will be there part of the Trump
administration at Great Coloraden. I'm really thrilled about that. And
so they're getting ready. You think about all this stuff
for such a remarkably simple bit of simple bit of

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an oath. The oath is a very short oath. It's
not like we're gonna watch a football game. It's not
gonna be a halftime, there's not gonna be there's not
gonna be any of that.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
It just takes us out.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
It's kind of like a bill signing. I don't know
if you've ever been to a bill signing. Bill signing
is when the governor or president signs legislation and turns
it into a law, and there's sometimes great pomp and
circumstance and all the rest, But reality is, it takes
as long as anybody signing a credit card receipt. There's

(08:56):
there's no there there. He just signs it.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
You know.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
They have speeches, they do this and this, but the
actual action takes takes very little time. What are your thoughts? Why?
I guess for me the question that still continues, still
continues to.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Befuddel me.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
All these people who said democracy was on the line,
all these people who said America is about to end,
all these great institutions, including the legacy media, academia, entertainment,
and government, including Biden and Harris and their whole team,

(09:46):
made it very clear, if this man is elected, then
democracy ends. If this man is elected, fascism wins. Well,
they're not saying that. Wait a second, mister Biden, how

(10:06):
could you welcome this fascist into the White House as
you just did. They're having a cup of coffee in
the White House. The Bidens and the Trumps, Kamala, Harris,
and the Vances are all having cup of coffee right

(10:26):
now in the White House. How could you do that
if in fact this is an enemy of the state
if in.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Fact democracy is ending.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
How would you feel if Roosevelt during the war had
had Hitler over for a cup of coffee. I think
you'd be pretty angry. What's the difference here?

Speaker 1 (10:54):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Don't I don't quite get it. Oh, could it be
that they weren't lying to us? Could it possibly possibly
be that they they knew it wasn't actually the end
of democracy. So the Speaker of the House and the

(11:24):
President of the Senate are coming into the rotunda.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
So is.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
So is Nuke Ingridge, the former Speaker of the House,
are making their way into the rotunda of the Capitol
to be among the first seated there. Pretty cool, That's
very cool. Again, I don't like pomp and circumstance. None

(11:53):
of this is necessary. The president could take the oath
of office in a phone booth and that's all that counts.
So why do we do this? There's Elaine Chow so

(12:14):
Lindsey Graham might also be there. This is this is
really pretty amazing to see all these people who who
often despise each other.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Together for this.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Now I've heard I've heard Michelle Obama has decided not
to come. I've heard Nancy Pelosi has decided not to come. Well,
turnaround is fair play, isn't it. Trump didn't show up

(12:50):
to Biden's inaugural. What goes around comes around?

Speaker 1 (12:59):
All right?

Speaker 2 (12:59):
I need your help understanding this. Here are my questions
for you. Where is the panic? Where are the protests?
Why aren't cities burning? Wasn't that going to happen? I mean,
after all, democracy is over. Democracy is ending in two
hours and forty three minutes. You think that would be that?

(13:25):
You think that would be that. I'm looking at live
footage from.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Outside the White House. We're waiting for.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
The President elect and VP elect to get into the
cars and move to the rotunda next. What happened to
the panic? Doesn't this absolutely prove it.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Was all manufactured?

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Doesn't this prove again why we don't trust our institutions,
why we don't trust the media, why we don't trust academia,
why we don't trust politicians, why we don't trust entertainment,
Because look, the guy who.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Won won.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Democracy is not on the line. Democracy was never on
the line in this election, And this is why we
don't trust the media. It's one of the reasons why
I'm concerned about the nation's future. We have no place
where we all go for a relative truth. So what's

(14:45):
going to happen is we're all gonna go to our
own separate corners, watch our own separate news feeds and
opinion feeds, and we're all going to come back with
our own opinions, and we're just not not going to

(15:05):
go any place where we have a shared common experience.
I don't know why Walter Cronkite keeps coming.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Up as that example.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
I never liked Walter. He was a progressive, just like
everywhere liberal by the standard of the day, but he
was trusted. Is there any voice that we all trust today?
This is gonna sound nuts, I mean nuts. Do you

(15:36):
realize the most trusted voice might be Joe Rogan? Fifty
million people have watched his interview with candidate Trump.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Fifty million.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
What a difference that makes compared to Oh why, I
don't know, MSNBC, which now no one watches, CNN, which
relatively no one watches, even local media, No one watches
the TV stations here in Denver. Compared to what they

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did years ago, they don't have the same market share.
You tell me why why have we lost faith in
these institutions?

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Quite simply.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
I think because they play sides, they play sides. It's
completely different, completely different than in years past. What do
you expect in the first one hundred days. I expect today,

(16:56):
after he has sworn in, he is going to sign
at one hundred to two hundred different executive orders. And
even when he signs an executive order, it doesn't it
doesn't change things instantly. It takes a lot of time
to change policy. I wish the markets were open today.

(17:20):
It's Martin Luther King Day. I would love to see
what the markets are doing in reaction to this. The
one thing that is constantly traded because it requires no
official marketplace is bitcoin.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Bitcoin right now.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
At one hundred and six thousand dollars a token one
hundred and six thousand dollars for a token which was
ten years ago just a few hundred dollars, and fifteen
years ago just a few cents. I need to know

(18:05):
what's gonna happen in the next one hundred days.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
What's your prediction.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
How will history remember the Biden presidency. I believe the
more distance we have from today, the more the inner
circle of the Biden world will admit he was an
absentee president, that he wasn't there, that it was their

(18:35):
job to cover up how incapacitated he was. When FDR
was president, there was a lot to kept secret about
his physical ailments, but he was a remarkably sharp guy
in control of the government. Not so for the last

(18:56):
four years. Who's been calling this show? Ads inside the
Biden White House? Who who were really making the decisions
and the lines? Again, why we don't trust them to
have to have the press cover up for the infirmities

(19:19):
the mental infirmities of our president for four years is unforgivable.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Unforgivable.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
This is jd Vance and Kamala's wife wife, husband getting
into the car heading to the Capitol. Now jd Vance
and Kamala will come out in another car, and so
it goes, and so it goes. What a morning.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Keep it on, Khowe, great Joyce, Jesse, Where where's the
freak out?

Speaker 2 (20:02):
I'm John Caldera and from Michael Brown. Give me a
call three or three seven, one, three eight.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Two five five.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
In one hour and twenty eight minutes, Democracy ends. We
will provide you that coverage live. Is pretty amazing. The
Vances have left the White House on the way to
the Capitol. Right now, President Biden and President Trump are

(20:34):
walking out the front door. Right now, let's see who
do we have come? Oh it is Advance and Harris
Kamala Harris JD. Vance are getting into a limousine on
the steps at the White House and they'll be whisked off.

(21:06):
Fans is walking around on the other side, getting into
the getting into the car. Oh, what what fun to
be in that car. I I want to hear what
they're talking about. What do you think they are talking about?
And the next set to come out will be the
two presidents. They'll hop in the car and off they go.

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It is good to see the smooth transition of power.
Would have been nice if Trump did the same, but
he didn't. And no, I don't want to go back
into into that morass. Three or three seven, one three
eight two five five seven to one three talk. It's
interesting that it's constitutional. I believe it's part of the

(21:59):
law when the transfer of power happens. It might not
be in the Constitution, but it's certainly set out by law.
So at noon Eastern time, that's when the transfer of
power happens. Meeting, which if the Soviets were to bomb
us right now, it would be Biden calling the shots

(22:21):
for the next hour and twice six minutes. Oh all right,
what do you expect in the next one hundred days?
How do you think Biden will be remembered? And remember,
histories change. Go back four years ago, and there was

(22:45):
no possible way for Donald Trump to come back into power.
He was humiliated, he was impeached. Social media had barred
him from the platforms Facebook and Twitter, deplatformed a sitting

(23:08):
president and took away his direct communications to some eighty
million constituents. And to be honest, that was the power grab.
Now four years later, Donald Trump is completing the greatest

(23:29):
comeback in political history. And maybe not Napoleon, but you
get the point. And those same companies that silenced him
four years ago are each putting a million dollars into
his festivities for today. Zuckerberg and CEO of Apple Jim Cook,

(23:58):
as well as Elon, as well as all these big
companies now sucking up to them. The same guys who
deplatformed him four years ago are giving a million dollars
each to make sure that he has a nice inaugural ball.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
I mean think about that. That's a comeback. I still
am putting forward the big question, and I'm not getting
an answer from you, So I'm gonna challenge you again.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Or maybe you have no opinion.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Why is it that we have lost trust in our institutions,
the institutions that told us democracy would die, that democracy
was on the line.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Why is it that.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Only twelve percent, only twelve percent of Republicans trust the
legacy media. What has happened? Someone explained it to me.
The numbers three oh three seven one three eight two
five five seven one three. Talk as I'm talking. The

(25:16):
doors are for the White House have opened up. Donald
Trump and Joe Biden have walked out. They're walking down
to the walking down to the limousine. Biden is asking somebody,
is this where I go? And that's exactly where he goes.

(25:44):
He is struggling to get in.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
I can.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
I can kind of see that. It's funny, you don't
see these things.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Biden.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Biden is still not quite settled into the car yet.
Trump is sitting down and there they are. They're all
and it's stuff like this. It is stuff like I'm
just saying, there's two angles to the car and watching
the AP feed, there's.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
A camera on one side of the car a camera on.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
The other side of the car, and as Biden struggled
to get into the car and get himself situated, I
could see what was going on because they used the
other camera. They used the other camera.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
So you saw.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Trump get into the car and then you just saw
him sitting. Now I could see through through the Trump
side to see President Biden struggle to get into a seat.
I would have had a much clearer view if they
had the other camera on, but of course they don't
have the other camera on, and it's that kind of

(27:06):
selective editing that makes me not trust the AP. So
I'm honored to know Chris Right. Chris Wright is the
CEO of Liberty Energy here he is going to be

(27:27):
the next energy Secretary. I've never known a better campaigner
for energy independence and energy around the world of how
energy brings wealth to poor, impoverished people than Chris Wright.
I was listening to NPR the day of his Senate confirmation,

(27:53):
just the quick little news update at the top of
the hour, and here's a guy who is an executive
of this incredible energy company. How do they announce him?
Chris Wright, former owner of a fossil fuels company. Now,

(28:16):
why would they use the term fossil.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Fuels company for him?

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Why because that, quite simply, that quite simply is a
dog whistle to NPR's listeners. And again, that's why we
don't trust That's why we don't trust the media. That's
why we don't trust them, because they editorialize, they are working,

(28:48):
they are working to get a certain image off. So
it's not that this guy is an energy expert. No,
he's a fossil fuels guy. Bomb bom, bom bom. Why
don't you trust the media. Why don't you trust academia?

(29:10):
Why don't you trust politicians? What has happened in a
few short decades in my life when trust in these
institutions were high and now they're basically non existent? In
forty years, the trust in the legacy media from Republicans

(29:34):
have dropped from the mid eighties to twelve percent. What's
the difference? What has made the difference? Presidential limousine is
going down. I believe it's Pennsylvania Avenue on its.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Way to the Capitol where there's be waiting.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
For democracy to end at ten o'clock mountain time. Really,
no takers from kay how listeners I am disappointed. I thought, kay,
how listeners had a bit more gumption than that. Three
h three seven one three eight, two five, five seven
to one three talk.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Why is it.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
America has lost faith in institutions? Because if we believed
in these institutions, they told us democracy was ending. Today
it short doesn't look like democracy is ending. It almost
looks like democracy is surviving. That the guy that people

(30:45):
elected is about to be sworn into office. I see
no jack booted thugs, I see no fascists.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
Where is the panic? Where is the chaos? Where are
the protests? Why haven't cities been burned to the ground,
with the exception of LA since this man's election? Something
isn't right.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Somebody lied to us? Three or three seven one three
eight two five, five seven one three talk. I'm John
Caldera in in for the big Man. I'm trying to
make sense of all this. I don't trust the media,

(31:40):
and I find it telling and sad that those in
the media have.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Absolutely no curiosity.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Why they've why they've had absolutely no no respect. What
has happened in a few short decades that has made
them so unpopular? Do you realize trust in legacy media

(32:15):
is now less less than trust in Congress. That's how
bad it is. So these institutions, including Congress, including media,
are not trusted. How long does that last? How can

(32:40):
a nation? How can a nation really survive when we
have no touchstones.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
That we all share.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
This guy's a Fox News guy, this guy's a CNN guy.
They'll never be, never be a place where they can meet.
I sure feel that way in Colorado. I feel like
there are people who believe Colorado should be a place
where people are free to make their own decisions, and

(33:14):
then there's those who believe that government should be making
it for you. That's the difference. Outside of the Capitol
is Marine one, the helicopter that when the president is
on it is called Marine one. Forget what it's called
when the ex president is on it. So after the

(33:37):
swearing in, former President Biden and his wife Jill will
be taken to this helicopter, flown over the DC sky
for the last time, and go to Andrews Air Force Base,

(33:59):
where the whisked away to California for a well deserved vacation.
It sounds like what you tell somebody when they go
to the old folks home. Oh, just time for a
little rest and relaxation. What will history say about the

(34:19):
Biden administration? Who will they finally decide? What was calling
the shots when Biden wasn't.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Give me a call.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Three oh three seven one three eight two five five
In for Michael Brown, I'm John Calderic.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Keep it right here, six point thirty.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Jesse, you are nailing it this morning. I'm John Caldera
in for Michael Brown.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Give me a call.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Three oh three seven one three eight two five five,
bringing you live coverage of.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Inauguration Day.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Wow, how very very interesting. I'm watching them watching folks
pool into the rotunda of the Capitol.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
So many VIPs.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
There's vivid Ramaswami coming in, Colorado's own Chris Wright coming in,
Telsey Gabbard is coming in. You see Elon Musk there.

(35:31):
People are standing milling around. Mind you, there's still an
hour and seven minutes before the main event, and and
it is it is interesting to see the pomp and

(35:52):
circumstance of it all. We're almost getting a better view
of things because it's in the rotunda.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
There's RFK Junior. Yeah, they're all they're all.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
There's my friend Brooke Rawlins. How amazing to see some
of the people I know personally, Christy nome So. A
lot of these people who will be playing part in
in the new administration are are behind the lectern. Pretty amazing,

(36:43):
pretty amazing stuff. Oh, Argentina's President Malay is there as
a guest. This is turning out to be a party.
I'm John Kelderic. Keep it right here as the party continues.
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