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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Michael, you know I just heard your spot about
discat and bath and I was wondering when you recorded that,
were you sitting on the potty, because you're sure sounded
like it. Anyway, Love your show, Love you too, Dragon,
have a good day.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
That spot's being corrected. In fact, I just got an
email today this morning, literally just I'm not kidding, probably
three minutes ago that the correct version has been put
back into rotation.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
People have been commenting, either on the text line or
other talk paths saying, hey, it sounds like you were
in your new bathroom when you record.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
What I find interesting is so many spots. In fact,
a lot of what not a lot, but several things
I do are done at home because I have a
home studio and everything is set up just right.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
But I blew it.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm admitting to a mistake, so everybody might want to
stop what they're doing right now. And I actually listen
to this because I am admitting to a mistake. So
I am. I'm going through this process with UH and
it's and it's really just started with the Rand Corporation,
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which is one of these I forget. There's a there's
a particular name for them, but it's it's like a
government research center. And in light of everything that's gone
on with the fires in California, the problems in and
in western North Carolina, just pretty much the decimation of
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FEMA over the over the past twenty years, RAND Corporation
has asked me to start a process with them, and
I find it just let me just say this at
the beginning, before I describe what it is. I find
it fascinating that the guy that they vilified so badly,
uh twenty years ago, they now reach out to, Hey,
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we need your expertise. Hey, we need you to help
us understand uh, you know, how how can we fix
these things?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Uh? You know?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Can you can you? Can you help us understand the
importance of uh? And I remember this question in particular,
and I haven't formulated an answer on it yet, but
help us understand your leadership style versus management style and
how do how do those fit together? And how are
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those different?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
And uh, how.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Important is each to the management of a government bureaucracy.
Which is a fascinating question when you think about it,
because leadership is is one thing and management is more.
I mean, leadership is more of a strategic point of
view of things, and management to me is more of
an operational point of view of things, and you need
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to be able to do both. But anyway, so how
this whole mistake happened with Discount Beth's hilarious because there's.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
So much going on with them in d C.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
While at the same time I am seriously trying to
finish my second book about the creation of the Department
of Homeland Security that I needed two monitors on my
desk as opposed to just the one. I just there's
there's too much I needed to be able to see
at one time. So I ran over to the Apple
Store and I bought another studio displayed and I hooked
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it up, uh and and got it all plugged in.
I am an idiot, and I freely admit that. But
what I failed to do was what I did. It
flipped everything back, in terms of my audio settings from it,
took it off it took it off my board and
my mixer and the microphone and everything else, and flipped
everything back to just like you, like any just not
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that I'm irregular or that ir irregular, but just any
normal person would have in a computer setup on their
home and so. But here's the best part of all.
So I record that spot and Dragon knows how we
do this. I record the spots. Sometimes he's copied on
the email, sometimes he's not. And I checked the time.
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I go through all the process of editing it, but
I didn't listen to it. I just the dumbest son
of a bitch in the world, right, But here's the
best part Dragon. Nobody else down the chain listened to
it either.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
That is pretty funny.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
That's the best part of all.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
You would have thought that the account exact who is
on the email, the traffic people, the ones that you
know put the logs, there's some there's some group that
deals with the copy stuff. I mean, there's like five
people in the email and the one single person, including yours,
truly listen to the audio and he just got plugged in.
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So last night I redid it, maybe because I you
know what was going on, redid it and send it
in like I don't know at eight thirty last night
before I went to bed, and boom it should be.
In fact, I get it. I got the email. It's
it's in rotation. I am an idiot, and I freely
admit that do you want to talk about.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Your cold room.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
It's not cold.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
No more do you want to talk about So Dragon's
been bitching for because I come in here and Dragon
is Dragon does and he will never admit this any
In fact, he'll probably deny it. But Dragon is the
kind of producer that actually cares about the talent.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
No, no, no, no, don't.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I don't care. I care about my job, and I
need to make myself useful at my job. So one
of the first time, the first week or so, the
first month or so of working with you, I observe,
so I see what you do in the morning and
to see how I can make myself useful so that
you don't have to do those things, not to be nice,
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just to keep my own job. So I notice you
come in, flip on every single light in the studio
and open open the single blind. It's all right.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
And then you've noticed that I go over to the
thermostat no. No, well, I guess I do in the summertime,
because sometimes I'll sometimes I come in here and it's
like sitting in a steam room. And in the winter
time I come in here it's like a meat locker.
And so lately Dragon has been. You know, I come
in and the lights are on, and I don't have
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to All I've got to do is just sit down,
plug in my cables, and just go to work again.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Because I like you, but I'm just trying to make
myself use Okay, Well.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
You know, for whatever if and reason you're doing it,
I don't care. I just know that, in your deepest
heart of hearts, you do it because you love me,
and I know that I know it.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
And so.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
He's been bitching because I get it really nice, not
I mean truthly. By the end of the program, it
probably is a little too warm, but it takes four
hours for it to get to the point where it's
too warm. Dragon has been sitting back there in a
meat locker for what a week.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
It's been the past week? Yeah, yeah, the past week.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
So he announces to me today because I noticed yesterday
as I'm leaving that there's a guy.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
There was a guy.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
There's a guy. There's a guy out there.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Because Dragon went on to the under the iHeart, you
know you need a new light bulb. Well, let's go
through a two week process to get a light bulb.
He went through that process to find out why is
it so freaking cold in my in my control.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Ticket has been created, Your ticket has been assigned somebody.
These are all separate emails. Somebody has been attached to
talk to dispatch. Dispatch has been notified to the problem.
Dispatch will be sent out.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
So after all, after that week, I finally walked through
here and there's a guy out there on a ladder
with one of the tiles, ceiling tiles moved, and he's
digging around trying to figure stuff out. And what did
he discover?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Dragon?
Speaker 4 (08:03):
The thermostat in this studio was disconnected, as well as
the valves that supply heat to this studio were shut
all the way off.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Now, my first question to Dragon was how did that happen?
Because because something doesn't just automatically disconnect, like with me
with my audio equipment, I did something which caused it
to disconnect. So a thermostat doesn't, like this thermostat in here,
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doesn't just decide one morning on its own that, on
some own volition, hey I think I'll disconnect myself.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
And then the.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Valves that actually, you know, let the heat flow in
don't just decide one day, hey, you know what, let's
because these are inanimate objects correct, let's just close it
and just make the old formally fat guy, bald headed
guy just freeze his ass off.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Maybe they do. I don't know. Maybe I don't want
staying in that inanimate.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Objects most of the time throughout the majority of the year.
I don't care because it wasn't actively blowing cold air
in here. But earlier this week and late last week, yes,
it was actively blowing cold air. It was negative outside.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
No, So the.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Only the only explanation in my mind, this is me talking,
it's not dragon. The only explanation in my mind is
that someone deliberately, perhaps accidentally I'll give that option, perhaps
accidentally while working on something else, temporarily did it. But
someone had to take their hand or hands and disconnect
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and close vowels.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Now, for argument's sake, here too, we do have an
employee that uses both of these studios, yours and mine,
that likes to turn the thermostat down to negative four constantly. Now,
when I came in this this morning, it was set
to negative four and it was not cold or cool
in here. So possibly somebody needs to come out at
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winter and summer to open and close those faluts. I
don't know if that's really supposed to be a thing.
I just know that it was.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Well, I find it interesting that would be true in
there but not in here.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, it's all interconnected, right, Yeah. Anyway, Dragon's now back
comfortable and and well he's still wearing his shorts in
his hoodie, so it doesn't make any difference. I don't
know what the difference was.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
He said he had a nice little knitted lap blanket
that he used to keep his legs warm.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Afghaans, Yeah, a little afghan.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
My mother made it.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yes, let's get started now, we got all the important
stuff out of the way. We've been for all of
you sending me text messages. Let me just say I
have so Donald Trump is working let's just say, twenty
hours a day, and then maybe he's sleeping, you know,
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two hours, and the other two hours maybe he's you know,
he's watching Fox or he's tweeting. But he's working twenty
hours a day and he's issuing executive voters and all
this stuff, and it's just wambam, thank you, ma'am. And
I've got four hours, so it's my four hours versus
his twenty hours. So I'm trying to stay up with him,
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but I can't because the amount of work that he
is producing is overwhelming. So when you send me a
text mess that says, you know, me, me, me, me,
why don't you cover this? Why don't you cover that?
You know it's on my list. But I can't get
to everything in just four hours. And as much as
I love my job, which I truly do, I'm not
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gonna sit here for eight hours.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I mean, what am I gonna do?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Tell Martino, no, you can't come in here because I've
got four more hours that I need to do. Now.
I would do that too, I'd say, you know, just
screw you, get out of here, Capitalists. I can't do
that because well, capitalist puts too much money into the
into the company, so I can't kick him out. So
you know, I could get an extra two hours, but
then I have to go to lunch, and because I
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have priorities and lunch is a priority. So I'm trying
to keep up as best I can. Okay, so just
calm down and relax. Good grief, people, you come, you
come and do this. You just come and do it.
Let's get to this executive order. It's titled holding God.
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I sometimes I think he writes these things. I really
I think sometimes he sits down and dictates it, holding
former government officials accountable for election interference and improper disclosure
of sensitive governmental information executive order data. And this is
dated January twenty, twenty twenty five by the authority vested
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in me as President by the Constitution. In the Laws
of the United States of America. It is hereby ordered
Section one purpose. In the closing weeks of the twenty
twenty presidential campaign, at least fifty one former intelligence intelligence
officials coordinated with the Biden campaign to issue a letter
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discrediting the reporting that President Joseph R. Biden's son had
abandoned his laptop at a computer repair business. Signatories of
that letter falsely suggested that the news story was part
of a Russian disinformation campaign. Before being issued, the letter
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was sent to the CIA Pre Publication Classification Review Board,
the body typically assigned to formally evaluate the sensitive nature
of documents prior to publication. If I wrote something in
this book that I'm working on about DHS that I
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obtained from a classified document or a you know, for
official use only document or otherwise that has to go
through a preclearance process, before the book can be published,
which is why I'm careful to find as many open
sources as i can so that I don't have.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
To go through this process.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
So it's something that you know, and in particular, anyone
that has clearances is required to do that. Now if
you just if you don't have a clearance and you
work in a program office, you know, in the government,
you can go write anything you want to. It's because
you probably because you don't have access to those classified documents.
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So the way he sets this executive order up is
a easingly important. Before being issued, the letter was sent
to the CIA pre Publication Classification Review Board, the body
typically assigned to formally evaluate the sensitive nature documents prior
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to publication. That paragraph continues. Senior CIA officials were made
aware of the contents of the letter, and multiple signatories
held clearances at the time and maintained ongoing contractuable relationships
with the CIA.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Now that's not unusual.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
When I left government service back in two thousand, actually
it extended slightly into two thousand and six. After I
resigned as the undersecretary, they entered into a consulting agreement
with me to keep me on board while they were
doing all their review, and it is for two reasons,
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ones which I would run one reason which I think
is a little nefarious, and the other reason, which I
think is completely legitimate. The nefarious reason is if I'm
under consulting contract with the White House, then I'm subject
to all of the restrictions in terms of the disclosure
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of anything, so that if Congress wants to start asking
me questions, then I have to first clear everything through
OMB and the West Wing about anything I'm going to
tell the legislative branch. So that's kind of the nefarious reason.
The legitimate reason is because they really do want to
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and I'm not willing to do it on my own
without being paid to consult with them about Okay, here's
where you guys messed up, here's where you fed up,
and here's what we need to do to change that,
and here are my recommendations. Well it's and I haven't
answered this particular email yet, but I get I get
a lot of emails from people asking me, hey, could
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we could could could we uh, could we sit down
with you for you know, an afternoon or could we
sit down with you over lunch? And could you advise
us on how to do x y z uh. I
got one recently about how to deal with some legislation
that the Colorado Pullet Bureau has passed. Now I have
a responded to that particular email yet, but my response
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is no, unless you want to enter into a consulting contract.
And and my hourly rate is pretty high, but I
don't give away my expertise for free. It's it's it's
this is why why, like with the Rand Corporation, do
you guys want to enter into this agreement? Sure, but
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I'm not gonna give my time away for free. So
the fact that some of these people who had clearances
had contractual relationship with the CIA, and we're talking about
the fifty one signatories to the ladder about the Hunter
Biden laptop being Russian disinformation, That's what this executive order
is about. And it's Boom much more important than you
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can imagine.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
I hate Dragon. I'm wondering did Michael have a straight
face when he said he didn't understand how the themostat
got disconnected and the valves got switched off. I mean,
everybody knows he did it.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yeah, I find that incredibly hard to believe that Michael
would do that because you need a ladder to get
up into the ceiling to open and close those valves,
and I highly doubt Michael knows how to use a ladder.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Well, and I'm also at least smart enough to understand
that this building's old enough that those tiles are nothing
but pure unadults raated asbestos.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
No.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
No, these are new tiles from the remodel we just
got new to well, most of them are new.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Most of them are new, and they were but used
most likely most likely so, so no, I'm not going
to do that. So back to the executive order. So
the executive orders, this is the one that revokes the
security clearances of these fifty one individuals. And I don't
want to read all the names. I just want to
read some of the names that ought to stick out
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to you. Jim Clapper, Michael Hayden, Leon Panetta, former CIA
director and former Secretary of Defense and former chief of
staff to Bill Clinton. John Brennan, former director of the CIA,
Michael Morrell, same, let's see, Jeremy bash. Let me just
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scroll through these really quickly. Roger, George h do do
do do? Anyway we get to the bottom line. Of course,
we've got John Bolton the Mustache. Yes, he's had his
security clearance revoked. Two of the original signatories are now deceased,
so doesn't make any difference. But within in ninety days
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of this order, the Director of National Intelligence, in in
consultation with the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, shall
submit a report to the President through his National Security
Advisor that details the following three things. Generally speaking, any
additional inappropriate activity that occurred within the Intel community related
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to the fifty one former intelligence officials recommendations to prevent
the intel community or anyone who works for or within it,
from inappropriately influencing domestic elections. And three any disciplinary action,
including determination of security clearances, that should be taken against
anyone else who engaged in inappropriate conduct related to the
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letter signed by those fifty one former intelligence officials. That
is a bombshell. And of course that move against the
deep state is really more revolutionary than you think, much
more revolutionary than you think. So Trump's plan to strip
those or plan has now been implemented, his executive order
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to strip those security clearances, is an earthquake in DC.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
And part of.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
That goes back to the House Permanent Select Intelligence Committee
that issued a press release on June twenty five of
this past year headlined new information shows CIA contractors colluded
with the Biden campaign to discredit the Hunter Biden laptop story.
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Now I don't want to read you the entire press release,
but the title of the report is the Intelligence Community
fifty one how CIA contractors colluded with the Biden campaign
to mislead American voters.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
So Trump has said enough, And let me tell you.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Why this matters so much as I as you may gather,
these are not just random bureaucrats. This is the real
power in DC who never truly retire. They never go away.
This is why they keep their clearances. They keep their clearances.
And then, with all of this insider knowledge that quite
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frankly I don't think they should have, they go on CNN.
They shape the narrative. They tell you what you should
think based on intelligence that you and I are not
entitled to know. And as someone who held clearances, let
me tell you to this day, when people ask me
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or I'm in a conversation about something, it will it
will pop open a brain cell somewhere in my stupid
adult brain that reminds me of something that oh wait,
a minute. I remember this now, Oh, I can't talk
about that. There's so much in this stupid brain of
mind that I truly have probably just kind of buried
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that I know I cannot talk about. It would be wrong, immoral,
and I think illegal for me to go on to
Fox News or Newsmax or News Nation and talk about
and describe things, which is why you've heard me on
this program when I say, you know, let me describe
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it to you this way, because I'm trying to avoid
specifically giving out, in giving out information that I obtained
through my clearances. Well, those yahoos didn't care, because what
were they trying to do. They were trying to influence
a campaign. Now, think about it. Those fifty one officials
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knew the laptop was real, the FBI had it in
their positions possession since twenty nineteen. Yet they use their
authority and their insider information to lie to you. Do
you let post election polls show that that swayed up
to seventeen percent of Democrat voters. That's the difference between
winning and losing seventeen percent. So this is how the
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deep state plays by that. This is their playbook. You
claim special knowledge, you push a false narrative. You interfere
in the elections, do you blackmail and jail opponents, and
you face zero consequences until now, Until now, the retired officials,
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the deep state never goes away. Now, I cannot claim,
and don't pretend to claim that I left DC after
I resigned, because well, well, ifully I was done with DC.
I'd had it, I'd had it, and some of the
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job offers that i'd had that i'd really had seriously
been considering disappeared because I was, I was, I was uh,
I was radioactive. But I'm so glad that I didn't
stay because this this becomes their life. And if you
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are a part of the deep state that wants to
control everything, then you're either in that group or you're
not in that group. And I didn't want to be
in that group, nor did I really even want to
be around that group. So it was a pretty easy
decision to come back home to Colorado. That's how the
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deep state survives. So revoking these clearances is the reason
I say it's earth shattering, it it's it's a bombshell
is because it's not just about the clearances, it's about
beginning to break the permanent power structure that's been controlling
the country from behind the scenes. That's what Trump's doing.
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He's truly he you know, we refer to Trump as
a disruptor. This is truly disrupting because remember the people
that he just revoked these clearances from pushed the Russia hoax.
They were engaged in censorship with the platforms, the social
media platforms. They were censoring real news in the sense
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that when they went on CNN and told you their narrative,
they're hiding the real news. And of course it also
shows that they had complicit and docile collaborators at CNN
and MSNBC because they just put them on air and
just let them spew whatever they want to spew. And
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of course CNN and MSNBC just grabbed it and ran
with it. They manipulated elections, they defrauded voters, and they
protect their own. So the real revolution isn't just about elections.
It's about dismantling this unelected power structure that thinks it
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can override the will of the American voters, that it.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Can control, and it does. It can control people.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I remember the first time that I got uh, I
got called out to Langley I forget what the controversy was.
I had somehow it involved a credit card and I
was in a dispute with a credit card company over
charges that I was contending was fraudulent. So I, you know,
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I did the typical you know, hey, this is a
fraudulent charge, or they didn't they didn't provide the service.
Ors you know, the product didn't work or something. I
forget what it was. And so now I'm going back
and forth with them because they reach out to the retailer.
The retailer denies that it was fraudulent. You know, they
did provide the server whatever. So now we're in this battle.
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I got called in about that. I remember at the
time thinking to myself, how the hell do you know
about this? Well, because they know everything everything, So I
had to explain. I actually had to sit down with
one of the officials, this is in charge of the clearances,
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and explain to them the entire thing about what was
going on with this dispute. Now I understand why. Don't
get me wrong, I understand why. Because they don't want
people who are subject to, you know, some sort of
extortion or someone who is in financial difficulty. I understand
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all of that because if you're in financial difficulty, then
you're subject to extortion and bribery, and that is a
good reason to revoke someone's clearance. So I had to
explain to them, no, it's not a financial problem. It's
it's a dispute over you the product that I bought
was defective or whatever, and they're, you know, the retailers
refusing to do it. And so I'm just fighting this
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with the credit card company. Oh okay, and then I
think I even at one point, I remember, I remember
the room I was sitting in. I said, you know,
if you look at my credit report, you'll see that
everything else is fine, you know, it's just this one
thing I'm fighting about. And of course they cleared it.
We went on, no problem, but because I was new
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on the scene, they wanted to question it, which proves
my next point. Why haven't previous presidents done this? And
I think it's because those people know everyone's secret. It's
it's in my opinion, I want to preface it with
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my opinion that it's like a mafia like situation. It's
a protection racket. They know everything and they use that
when they want to for their political purposes, which is
immoral and illegal. So this is the utter bombshell that
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shows that Trump is serious about disbanding the deep state.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
I wonder if Chuck Schumer regrets saying the words that
the CIA has six ways from Sundays to getting back
at you. Those are prized and words. He wished she
would have never said.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
It's always amazing to me how the left eventually just
spews out the truth. He also said something the other
day about uh or not the other day but some back.
I think it was during the Dobbs decision about you know,
justice score such and Justice.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Cavanology, you're going to reap the whirlwind.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Well, I threw that back in his face last night
because the Democrats have now stalled the confirmation of Trump's nominees.
I heard a I heard someone estimate last night that
if they invoke there's just trust me. I don't want
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to go through the whole procedure. But once the nominations
get out of committee and they go to the floor
for a floor vote, the Democrats can use a procedural
mechanism by which every nominee is entire not nominee, but
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every nominee is going to get thirty hours of debate
Democrats can demand thirty hours of debate for each nominee. Now,
when you and I think thirty hours, I think a
twenty four hour clock plus six more hours. Well, that's
not how debate works in the US Senate. They might
debate for you know, a couple hours here, and then
they got to go to a cocktail party and then
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you know, late breakfast in another three or four hours.
And so the estimate was for those that have been
reported out a committee ready for a floor vote, which
includes like the Attorney General, the CIA director, the Secretary
of Defense, some of these top level cabinet officials, that
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it could be March before they get confirmed.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
That's totally unacceptable. And why now.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I heard the Senate Majority leader, John Thune, whom I
did not want to be the majority leader, but that's
who they chose, talk about, Oh yeah, you know, we're
going to put pressure on the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Really, what are you going to do? What are you
gonna do?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
You know, one option which which I don't like. I
don't like this option either, and it's got a lot
of drawbacks to it. But under the Constitution, if one
house adjourns in this case, it would be the House
of representatives if they adjourn but the Senate doesn't, the President,
under Article two has the authority to adjourn both houses
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of Congress to force them into adjournment. When Congress is
adjourned for a certain period of time and I forget
what it is, I have to look it up, then
the president can make a He can make a what's
called a recess appointment, which means he could put those
people into those cabinet positions. He can make Pete Hegesath
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and Pam Bondi recess appointments. The problem is those recess
appointments are limited in duration, so they couldn't necessarily serve
the full four years. So that's a bad option. So
what Republicans have got to let me rephrase that, what
conservatives around the country need to do is they need
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to start particularly senators who live in states Democrat senators
who live in red states have voted for Donald Trump.
They've got to get on the phone and they've got
to start calling those Senate offices, and they got to
start putting the pressure on because we need those nominees voted.
We've got the majority, but for cloture to close off debate,
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it takes sixty one votes. There's got to be some
Democrats in swing states or in red states that are
up for reelection in two years that can be persuaded
by threats from their own voters. Stop the debate, vote
on those nominees. That's the only resistance I see to Trump.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Right now, and he's got to stop it.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
You know, I really despise the people in DC. You
wouldn't know why I left, because I really do despise
them
Hey, Michael, you know I just heard your spot about
discat and bath and I was wondering when you recorded that,
were you sitting on the potty, because you're sure sounded
like it. Anyway, Love your show, Love you too, Dragon,
have a good day.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
That spot's being corrected. In fact, I just got an
email today this morning, literally just I'm not kidding, probably
three minutes ago that the correct version has been put
back into rotation.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
People have been commenting, either on the text line or
other talk paths saying, hey, it sounds like you were
in your new bathroom when you record.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
What I find interesting is so many spots. In fact,
a lot of what not a lot, but several things
I do are done at home because I have a
home studio and everything is set up just right.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
But I blew it.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm admitting to a mistake, so everybody might want to
stop what they're doing right now. And I actually listen
to this because I am admitting to a mistake. So
I am. I'm going through this process with UH and
it's and it's really just started with the Rand Corporation,
(01:16):
which is one of these I forget. There's a there's
a particular name for them, but it's it's like a
government research center. And in light of everything that's gone
on with the fires in California, the problems in and
in western North Carolina, just pretty much the decimation of
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FEMA over the over the past twenty years, RAND Corporation
has asked me to start a process with them, and
I find it just let me just say this at
the beginning, before I describe what it is. I find
it fascinating that the guy that they vilified so badly,
uh twenty years ago, they now reach out to, Hey,
(01:59):
we need your expertise. Hey, we need you to help
us understand uh, you know, how how can we fix
these things?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Uh? You know?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Can you can you? Can you help us understand the
importance of uh? And I remember this question in particular,
and I haven't formulated an answer on it yet, but
help us understand your leadership style versus management style and
how do how do those fit together? And how are
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those different?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
And uh, how.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Important is each to the management of a government bureaucracy.
Which is a fascinating question when you think about it,
because leadership is is one thing and management is more.
I mean, leadership is more of a strategic point of
view of things, and management to me is more of
an operational point of view of things, and you need
(02:52):
to be able to do both. But anyway, so how
this whole mistake happened with Discount Beth's hilarious because there's.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
So much going on with them in d C.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
While at the same time I am seriously trying to
finish my second book about the creation of the Department
of Homeland Security that I needed two monitors on my
desk as opposed to just the one. I just there's
there's too much I needed to be able to see
at one time. So I ran over to the Apple
Store and I bought another studio displayed and I hooked
(03:30):
it up, uh and and got it all plugged in.
I am an idiot, and I freely admit that. But
what I failed to do was what I did. It
flipped everything back, in terms of my audio settings from it,
took it off it took it off my board and
my mixer and the microphone and everything else, and flipped
everything back to just like you, like any just not
(03:54):
that I'm irregular or that ir irregular, but just any
normal person would have in a computer setup on their
home and so. But here's the best part of all.
So I record that spot and Dragon knows how we
do this. I record the spots. Sometimes he's copied on
the email, sometimes he's not. And I checked the time.
(04:15):
I go through all the process of editing it, but
I didn't listen to it. I just the dumbest son
of a bitch in the world, right, But here's the
best part Dragon. Nobody else down the chain listened to
it either.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
That is pretty funny.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
That's the best part of all.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
You would have thought that the account exact who is
on the email, the traffic people, the ones that you
know put the logs, there's some there's some group that
deals with the copy stuff. I mean, there's like five
people in the email and the one single person, including yours,
truly listen to the audio and he just got plugged in.
(04:55):
So last night I redid it, maybe because I you
know what was going on, redid it and send it
in like I don't know at eight thirty last night
before I went to bed, and boom it should be.
In fact, I get it. I got the email. It's
it's in rotation. I am an idiot, and I freely
admit that do you want to talk about.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Your cold room.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
It's not cold.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
No more do you want to talk about So Dragon's
been bitching for because I come in here and Dragon
is Dragon does and he will never admit this any
In fact, he'll probably deny it. But Dragon is the
kind of producer that actually cares about the talent.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
No, no, no, no, don't.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
I don't care. I care about my job, and I
need to make myself useful at my job. So one
of the first time, the first week or so, the
first month or so of working with you, I observe,
so I see what you do in the morning and
to see how I can make myself useful so that
you don't have to do those things, not to be nice,
(06:05):
just to keep my own job. So I notice you
come in, flip on every single light in the studio
and open open the single blind. It's all right.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
And then you've noticed that I go over to the
thermostat no. No, well, I guess I do in the summertime,
because sometimes I'll sometimes I come in here and it's
like sitting in a steam room. And in the winter
time I come in here it's like a meat locker.
And so lately Dragon has been. You know, I come
in and the lights are on, and I don't have
(06:36):
to All I've got to do is just sit down,
plug in my cables, and just go to work again.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Because I like you, but I'm just trying to make
myself use Okay, Well.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
You know, for whatever if and reason you're doing it,
I don't care. I just know that, in your deepest
heart of hearts, you do it because you love me,
and I know that I know it.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
And so.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
He's been bitching because I get it really nice, not
I mean truthly. By the end of the program, it
probably is a little too warm, but it takes four
hours for it to get to the point where it's
too warm. Dragon has been sitting back there in a
meat locker for what a week.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
It's been the past week? Yeah, yeah, the past week.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
So he announces to me today because I noticed yesterday
as I'm leaving that there's a guy.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
There was a guy.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
There's a guy. There's a guy out there.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Because Dragon went on to the under the iHeart, you
know you need a new light bulb. Well, let's go
through a two week process to get a light bulb.
He went through that process to find out why is
it so freaking cold in my in my control.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Ticket has been created, Your ticket has been assigned somebody.
These are all separate emails. Somebody has been attached to
talk to dispatch. Dispatch has been notified to the problem.
Dispatch will be sent out.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
So after all, after that week, I finally walked through
here and there's a guy out there on a ladder
with one of the tiles, ceiling tiles moved, and he's
digging around trying to figure stuff out. And what did
he discover?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Dragon?
Speaker 4 (08:03):
The thermostat in this studio was disconnected, as well as
the valves that supply heat to this studio were shut
all the way off.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Now, my first question to Dragon was how did that happen?
Because because something doesn't just automatically disconnect, like with me
with my audio equipment, I did something which caused it
to disconnect. So a thermostat doesn't, like this thermostat in here,
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doesn't just decide one morning on its own that, on
some own volition, hey I think I'll disconnect myself.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
And then the.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Valves that actually, you know, let the heat flow in
don't just decide one day, hey, you know what, let's
because these are inanimate objects correct, let's just close it
and just make the old formally fat guy, bald headed
guy just freeze his ass off.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Maybe they do. I don't know. Maybe I don't want
staying in that inanimate.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Objects most of the time throughout the majority of the year.
I don't care because it wasn't actively blowing cold air
in here. But earlier this week and late last week, yes,
it was actively blowing cold air. It was negative outside.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
No, So the.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Only the only explanation in my mind, this is me talking,
it's not dragon. The only explanation in my mind is
that someone deliberately, perhaps accidentally I'll give that option, perhaps
accidentally while working on something else, temporarily did it. But
someone had to take their hand or hands and disconnect
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and close vowels.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Now, for argument's sake, here too, we do have an
employee that uses both of these studios, yours and mine,
that likes to turn the thermostat down to negative four constantly. Now,
when I came in this this morning, it was set
to negative four and it was not cold or cool
in here. So possibly somebody needs to come out at
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winter and summer to open and close those faluts. I
don't know if that's really supposed to be a thing.
I just know that it was.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Well, I find it interesting that would be true in
there but not in here.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, it's all interconnected, right, Yeah. Anyway, Dragon's now back
comfortable and and well he's still wearing his shorts in
his hoodie, so it doesn't make any difference. I don't
know what the difference was.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
He said he had a nice little knitted lap blanket
that he used to keep his legs warm.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Afghaans, Yeah, a little afghan.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
My mother made it.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yes, let's get started now, we got all the important
stuff out of the way. We've been for all of
you sending me text messages. Let me just say I
have so Donald Trump is working let's just say, twenty
hours a day, and then maybe he's sleeping, you know,
(11:07):
two hours, and the other two hours maybe he's you know,
he's watching Fox or he's tweeting. But he's working twenty
hours a day and he's issuing executive voters and all
this stuff, and it's just wambam, thank you, ma'am. And
I've got four hours, so it's my four hours versus
his twenty hours. So I'm trying to stay up with him,
(11:30):
but I can't because the amount of work that he
is producing is overwhelming. So when you send me a
text mess that says, you know, me, me, me, me,
why don't you cover this? Why don't you cover that?
You know it's on my list. But I can't get
to everything in just four hours. And as much as
I love my job, which I truly do, I'm not
(11:51):
gonna sit here for eight hours.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I mean, what am I gonna do?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Tell Martino, no, you can't come in here because I've
got four more hours that I need to do. Now.
I would do that too, I'd say, you know, just
screw you, get out of here, Capitalists. I can't do
that because well, capitalist puts too much money into the
into the company, so I can't kick him out. So
you know, I could get an extra two hours, but
then I have to go to lunch, and because I
(12:16):
have priorities and lunch is a priority. So I'm trying
to keep up as best I can. Okay, so just
calm down and relax. Good grief, people, you come, you
come and do this. You just come and do it.
Let's get to this executive order. It's titled holding God.
(12:39):
I sometimes I think he writes these things. I really
I think sometimes he sits down and dictates it, holding
former government officials accountable for election interference and improper disclosure
of sensitive governmental information executive order data. And this is
dated January twenty, twenty twenty five by the authority vested
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in me as President by the Constitution. In the Laws
of the United States of America. It is hereby ordered
Section one purpose. In the closing weeks of the twenty
twenty presidential campaign, at least fifty one former intelligence intelligence
officials coordinated with the Biden campaign to issue a letter
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discrediting the reporting that President Joseph R. Biden's son had
abandoned his laptop at a computer repair business. Signatories of
that letter falsely suggested that the news story was part
of a Russian disinformation campaign. Before being issued, the letter
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was sent to the CIA Pre Publication Classification Review Board,
the body typically assigned to formally evaluate the sensitive nature
of documents prior to publication. If I wrote something in
this book that I'm working on about DHS that I
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obtained from a classified document or a you know, for
official use only document or otherwise that has to go
through a preclearance process, before the book can be published,
which is why I'm careful to find as many open
sources as i can so that I don't have.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
To go through this process.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
So it's something that you know, and in particular, anyone
that has clearances is required to do that. Now if
you just if you don't have a clearance and you
work in a program office, you know, in the government,
you can go write anything you want to. It's because
you probably because you don't have access to those classified documents.
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So the way he sets this executive order up is
a easingly important. Before being issued, the letter was sent
to the CIA pre Publication Classification Review Board, the body
typically assigned to formally evaluate the sensitive nature documents prior
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to publication. That paragraph continues. Senior CIA officials were made
aware of the contents of the letter, and multiple signatories
held clearances at the time and maintained ongoing contractuable relationships
with the CIA.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Now that's not unusual.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
When I left government service back in two thousand, actually
it extended slightly into two thousand and six. After I
resigned as the undersecretary, they entered into a consulting agreement
with me to keep me on board while they were
doing all their review, and it is for two reasons,
(16:00):
ones which I would run one reason which I think
is a little nefarious, and the other reason, which I
think is completely legitimate. The nefarious reason is if I'm
under consulting contract with the White House, then I'm subject
to all of the restrictions in terms of the disclosure
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of anything, so that if Congress wants to start asking
me questions, then I have to first clear everything through
OMB and the West Wing about anything I'm going to
tell the legislative branch. So that's kind of the nefarious reason.
The legitimate reason is because they really do want to
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and I'm not willing to do it on my own
without being paid to consult with them about Okay, here's
where you guys messed up, here's where you fed up,
and here's what we need to do to change that,
and here are my recommendations. Well it's and I haven't
answered this particular email yet, but I get I get
a lot of emails from people asking me, hey, could
(17:06):
we could could could we uh, could we sit down
with you for you know, an afternoon or could we
sit down with you over lunch? And could you advise
us on how to do x y z uh. I
got one recently about how to deal with some legislation
that the Colorado Pullet Bureau has passed. Now I have
a responded to that particular email yet, but my response
(17:29):
is no, unless you want to enter into a consulting contract.
And and my hourly rate is pretty high, but I
don't give away my expertise for free. It's it's it's
this is why why, like with the Rand Corporation, do
you guys want to enter into this agreement? Sure, but
(17:51):
I'm not gonna give my time away for free. So
the fact that some of these people who had clearances
had contractual relationship with the CIA, and we're talking about
the fifty one signatories to the ladder about the Hunter
Biden laptop being Russian disinformation, That's what this executive order
is about. And it's Boom much more important than you
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can imagine.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
I hate Dragon. I'm wondering did Michael have a straight
face when he said he didn't understand how the themostat
got disconnected and the valves got switched off. I mean,
everybody knows he did it.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yeah, I find that incredibly hard to believe that Michael
would do that because you need a ladder to get
up into the ceiling to open and close those valves,
and I highly doubt Michael knows how to use a ladder.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Well, and I'm also at least smart enough to understand
that this building's old enough that those tiles are nothing
but pure unadults raated asbestos.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
No.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
No, these are new tiles from the remodel we just
got new to well, most of them are new.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Most of them are new, and they were but used
most likely most likely so, so no, I'm not going
to do that. So back to the executive order. So
the executive orders, this is the one that revokes the
security clearances of these fifty one individuals. And I don't
want to read all the names. I just want to
read some of the names that ought to stick out
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to you. Jim Clapper, Michael Hayden, Leon Panetta, former CIA
director and former Secretary of Defense and former chief of
staff to Bill Clinton. John Brennan, former director of the CIA,
Michael Morrell, same, let's see, Jeremy bash. Let me just
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scroll through these really quickly. Roger, George h do do
do do? Anyway we get to the bottom line. Of course,
we've got John Bolton the Mustache. Yes, he's had his
security clearance revoked. Two of the original signatories are now deceased,
so doesn't make any difference. But within in ninety days
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of this order, the Director of National Intelligence, in in
consultation with the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, shall
submit a report to the President through his National Security
Advisor that details the following three things. Generally speaking, any
additional inappropriate activity that occurred within the Intel community related
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to the fifty one former intelligence officials recommendations to prevent
the intel community or anyone who works for or within it,
from inappropriately influencing domestic elections. And three any disciplinary action,
including determination of security clearances, that should be taken against
anyone else who engaged in inappropriate conduct related to the
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letter signed by those fifty one former intelligence officials. That
is a bombshell. And of course that move against the
deep state is really more revolutionary than you think, much
more revolutionary than you think. So Trump's plan to strip
those or plan has now been implemented, his executive order
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to strip those security clearances, is an earthquake in DC.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
And part of.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
That goes back to the House Permanent Select Intelligence Committee
that issued a press release on June twenty five of
this past year headlined new information shows CIA contractors colluded
with the Biden campaign to discredit the Hunter Biden laptop story.
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Now I don't want to read you the entire press release,
but the title of the report is the Intelligence Community
fifty one how CIA contractors colluded with the Biden campaign
to mislead American voters.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
So Trump has said enough, And let me tell you.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Why this matters so much as I as you may gather,
these are not just random bureaucrats. This is the real
power in DC who never truly retire. They never go away.
This is why they keep their clearances. They keep their clearances.
And then, with all of this insider knowledge that quite
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frankly I don't think they should have, they go on CNN.
They shape the narrative. They tell you what you should
think based on intelligence that you and I are not
entitled to know. And as someone who held clearances, let
me tell you to this day, when people ask me
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or I'm in a conversation about something, it will it
will pop open a brain cell somewhere in my stupid
adult brain that reminds me of something that oh wait,
a minute. I remember this now, Oh, I can't talk
about that. There's so much in this stupid brain of
mind that I truly have probably just kind of buried
(23:12):
that I know I cannot talk about. It would be wrong, immoral,
and I think illegal for me to go on to
Fox News or Newsmax or News Nation and talk about
and describe things, which is why you've heard me on
this program when I say, you know, let me describe
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it to you this way, because I'm trying to avoid
specifically giving out, in giving out information that I obtained
through my clearances. Well, those yahoos didn't care, because what
were they trying to do. They were trying to influence
a campaign. Now, think about it. Those fifty one officials
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knew the laptop was real, the FBI had it in
their positions possession since twenty nineteen. Yet they use their
authority and their insider information to lie to you. Do
you let post election polls show that that swayed up
to seventeen percent of Democrat voters. That's the difference between
winning and losing seventeen percent. So this is how the
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deep state plays by that. This is their playbook. You
claim special knowledge, you push a false narrative. You interfere
in the elections, do you blackmail and jail opponents, and
you face zero consequences until now, Until now, the retired officials,
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the deep state never goes away. Now, I cannot claim,
and don't pretend to claim that I left DC after
I resigned, because well, well, ifully I was done with DC.
I'd had it, I'd had it, and some of the
(25:05):
job offers that i'd had that i'd really had seriously
been considering disappeared because I was, I was, I was uh,
I was radioactive. But I'm so glad that I didn't
stay because this this becomes their life. And if you
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are a part of the deep state that wants to
control everything, then you're either in that group or you're
not in that group. And I didn't want to be
in that group, nor did I really even want to
be around that group. So it was a pretty easy
decision to come back home to Colorado. That's how the
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deep state survives. So revoking these clearances is the reason
I say it's earth shattering, it it's it's a bombshell
is because it's not just about the clearances, it's about
beginning to break the permanent power structure that's been controlling
the country from behind the scenes. That's what Trump's doing.
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He's truly he you know, we refer to Trump as
a disruptor. This is truly disrupting because remember the people
that he just revoked these clearances from pushed the Russia hoax.
They were engaged in censorship with the platforms, the social
media platforms. They were censoring real news in the sense
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that when they went on CNN and told you their narrative,
they're hiding the real news. And of course it also
shows that they had complicit and docile collaborators at CNN
and MSNBC because they just put them on air and
just let them spew whatever they want to spew. And
(26:53):
of course CNN and MSNBC just grabbed it and ran
with it. They manipulated elections, they defrauded voters, and they
protect their own. So the real revolution isn't just about elections.
It's about dismantling this unelected power structure that thinks it
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can override the will of the American voters, that it.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Can control, and it does. It can control people.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I remember the first time that I got uh, I
got called out to Langley I forget what the controversy was.
I had somehow it involved a credit card and I
was in a dispute with a credit card company over
charges that I was contending was fraudulent. So I, you know,
(27:48):
I did the typical you know, hey, this is a
fraudulent charge, or they didn't they didn't provide the service.
Ors you know, the product didn't work or something. I
forget what it was. And so now I'm going back
and forth with them because they reach out to the retailer.
The retailer denies that it was fraudulent. You know, they
did provide the server whatever. So now we're in this battle.
(28:09):
I got called in about that. I remember at the
time thinking to myself, how the hell do you know
about this? Well, because they know everything everything, So I
had to explain. I actually had to sit down with
one of the officials, this is in charge of the clearances,
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and explain to them the entire thing about what was
going on with this dispute. Now I understand why. Don't
get me wrong, I understand why. Because they don't want
people who are subject to, you know, some sort of
extortion or someone who is in financial difficulty. I understand
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all of that because if you're in financial difficulty, then
you're subject to extortion and bribery, and that is a
good reason to revoke someone's clearance. So I had to
explain to them, no, it's not a financial problem. It's
it's a dispute over you the product that I bought
was defective or whatever, and they're, you know, the retailers
refusing to do it. And so I'm just fighting this
(29:10):
with the credit card company. Oh okay, and then I
think I even at one point, I remember, I remember
the room I was sitting in. I said, you know,
if you look at my credit report, you'll see that
everything else is fine, you know, it's just this one
thing I'm fighting about. And of course they cleared it.
We went on, no problem, but because I was new
(29:30):
on the scene, they wanted to question it, which proves
my next point. Why haven't previous presidents done this? And
I think it's because those people know everyone's secret. It's
it's in my opinion, I want to preface it with
(29:52):
my opinion that it's like a mafia like situation. It's
a protection racket. They know everything and they use that
when they want to for their political purposes, which is
immoral and illegal. So this is the utter bombshell that
(30:14):
shows that Trump is serious about disbanding the deep state.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
I wonder if Chuck Schumer regrets saying the words that
the CIA has six ways from Sundays to getting back
at you. Those are prized and words. He wished she
would have never said.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
It's always amazing to me how the left eventually just
spews out the truth. He also said something the other
day about uh or not the other day but some back.
I think it was during the Dobbs decision about you know,
justice score such and Justice.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Cavanology, you're going to reap the whirlwind.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Well, I threw that back in his face last night
because the Democrats have now stalled the confirmation of Trump's nominees.
I heard a I heard someone estimate last night that
if they invoke there's just trust me. I don't want
(31:20):
to go through the whole procedure. But once the nominations
get out of committee and they go to the floor
for a floor vote, the Democrats can use a procedural
mechanism by which every nominee is entire not nominee, but
(31:40):
every nominee is going to get thirty hours of debate
Democrats can demand thirty hours of debate for each nominee. Now,
when you and I think thirty hours, I think a
twenty four hour clock plus six more hours. Well, that's
not how debate works in the US Senate. They might
debate for you know, a couple hours here, and then
they got to go to a cocktail party and then
(32:02):
you know, late breakfast in another three or four hours.
And so the estimate was for those that have been
reported out a committee ready for a floor vote, which
includes like the Attorney General, the CIA director, the Secretary
of Defense, some of these top level cabinet officials, that
(32:24):
it could be March before they get confirmed.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
That's totally unacceptable. And why now.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I heard the Senate Majority leader, John Thune, whom I
did not want to be the majority leader, but that's
who they chose, talk about, Oh yeah, you know, we're
going to put pressure on the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Really, what are you going to do? What are you
gonna do?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
You know, one option which which I don't like. I
don't like this option either, and it's got a lot
of drawbacks to it. But under the Constitution, if one
house adjourns in this case, it would be the House
of representatives if they adjourn but the Senate doesn't, the President,
under Article two has the authority to adjourn both houses
(33:15):
of Congress to force them into adjournment. When Congress is
adjourned for a certain period of time and I forget
what it is, I have to look it up, then
the president can make a He can make a what's
called a recess appointment, which means he could put those
people into those cabinet positions. He can make Pete Hegesath
(33:37):
and Pam Bondi recess appointments. The problem is those recess
appointments are limited in duration, so they couldn't necessarily serve
the full four years. So that's a bad option. So
what Republicans have got to let me rephrase that, what
conservatives around the country need to do is they need
(33:57):
to start particularly senators who live in states Democrat senators
who live in red states have voted for Donald Trump.
They've got to get on the phone and they've got
to start calling those Senate offices, and they got to
start putting the pressure on because we need those nominees voted.
We've got the majority, but for cloture to close off debate,
(34:21):
it takes sixty one votes. There's got to be some
Democrats in swing states or in red states that are
up for reelection in two years that can be persuaded
by threats from their own voters. Stop the debate, vote
on those nominees. That's the only resistance I see to Trump.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Right now, and he's got to stop it.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
You know, I really despise the people in DC. You
wouldn't know why I left, because I really do despise
them
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