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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Michael, what is wrong with this traffic person? I mean,
I'm down here at Happy Canned. It ain't so happy
to day because we're on the twenty five northbound and
we're doing like ten miles an hour, but nothing on traffic.
Do they not like us down here? I guess this
is Douglas County. You know, Conservatives, we don't count. I'm
gonna get that Brockler guy after her Man. There's got
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to be something illegal bout discriminating against the dug goat.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Now they're bitching because they're shockingly stuck in traffic in Denver, Colorado.
So Bobby Kennedy Junior's confirmation hearing is about to start.
Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon, who is a total richard,
is getting his opening statement, so I'm sure he's lambasting him.
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Kennedy is just kind of staring off at him, like,
you know, I'd like to just like pound your head
into the wall, but I do want to hear what
he has to say. So if and when Kennedy's statement
opening statement begins, we'll we'll dip into that because this
is the probably well Tulci Gabbard. Bobby Kennedy Jr. Are
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probably two of the more so called controversial nominees. And
of course Kennedy has had some controversial positions on certain things,
but he's still going to have to do the president's agenda,
and I think that's what he's going to emphasize today.
By the way, speaking of Tulca Gabbard, before I get
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back to the death of the media, the at least
the life support of the cabal, the Senate back in
the early seventeen hundreds held secret votes. Everything they voted
on was secret. I forget exactly how long they did that,
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maybe until like seventeen ninety four or something, but they
were accused of being a star chamber. So the Senate
never again held another secret vote. But when it comes
to Tulci Gabbard, they're actually thinking about breaking a two
hundred and thirty one year old rule and holding a
vote on Tulsi Gabbard in secret. Now the vote it's
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there may be some conversation about some national security issue
that they want to hold in secret, and I don't
have a problem with that, but holding your vote in secret.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
No.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
The New York Times, speaking of media dying, did a
horrible hit piece on Tulsi Gabbard yesterday it was it
was over the top awful. I'll get to that in
a minute. Let's get back right now to the to
the death of the cabal, or at least their their
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own life support. So this whole crackup that I just
described before in that break that we messed up. You know, yeah,
Chris Wallace, you got camer Oad, you got Jim Acosta,
you got uh Andrea Mitchell, who am I leaving out?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
He got all these who to whatever her name is.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Over it the Today Show that they've all disappeared and
they're all going through. By the way, referencing our very
first talk back, or not the very first one, but
the one about when I was ramping about we need
to reduce the federal workforce. They need to come back
to work. You know what, some of those people didn't
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want to do what management wanted to do, and they
got fired. Another example the private sector. But this kind
of media crackup is ironic because while they decry billionaires,
they also saw billionaires as kind of their life saver.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
That was.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
That was the life preserver that they thought was going
to save them. So Jeff Bezos Amazon for a quarter
of a billion dollars, which seems like a trifling amount,
bought the Washington Post Democracy Dies in the Darkness back
in twenty thirteen, and then doctor Sun Chiong's half billion
dollar purchase of the La Times in twenty eighteen. Both
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of those purchases were seen as, Oh, the billionaires are
going to come in and save us, And of course,
Silicon Valley was generally shared with the big media's editorial employees.
They seemed content to let the press do whatever it
wanted to do until there was a point. And this
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always happens with rich people. They buy something because well,
they think it's going to be interesting, or they think
it's going to be you know, it's going to diversify
their portfolio, or it's something they want to dabble in,
and so they spend you know, a half a billion here,
a billion dollars here, and they buy a couple of newspapers,
and then suddenly they realize, well, holy craft, we're bleeding money,
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and my billion dollar investments going down the drain. So
they reach a point where those very people who got
very rich by paying attention to how they got rich,
they suddenly take a greater interest in the bottom line
and then they start realizing how much the media disagrees
hypocritically with the same free speech values that those billionaires
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claim to uphold. After the eruption of all the racial
strife back in twenty twenty and all the increasingly divisive
gender politics during the COVID pandemic, the owners of the
media companies discovered that funding all of those salaries, promising
millions to diversity, equity and inclusion agendas, and even alreading
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calls for censorship kind of didn't serve to purchase indulgences
from the loudest people in the newsroom or from the
HR department. Owners got tired of the assumption that they
existed to fund the work of people that they no
longer viewed as worth supporting, and they became increasingly open
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to the idea that there could be no profit, there
could be no peace in funding the creaky voice of
the entrenched illiberal left. They woke up, think about Elon
Musk for a moment, forty four billion dollars to purchase
Twitter in twenty twenty two. I think that was the
start of the end. That was the beginning of the end.
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That was a mega purchase that began almost as a
joke that turned into truly a historically transf transformative event,
and not just for our pullets, but for media across
the world, and I think for the culture itself.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Because musks.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Decision making style didn't just drive away the media's blue
check elites. Remember some of us had the blue check
mark because of who we were. Well, now anybody can
buy a blue check mark as long as you're willing
to verify who you are. So that kind of pushed
the Overton window on the possibilities of the super rich
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tech men and yes they're all men. Ironically, it kind
of pushed that Overton window over here to such a
degree that now they recognize that, whoa, there are all
these other voices out here. It's like the Overton window
didn't move, it actually opened. And they looked at they
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and they started hearing all these other voices, and they recognize, Oh,
there's money to be made in opening, there's money to
be made in free speech, there's money to be made
in the First Amendment, by the clash of ideas, by
the clash of arguments, by people being able to actually
say what they want to say.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
And suddenly, what's happening Twitter.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Has become, as I said, for me personally, a major
news source for show preparation, which is why you ought
to be following me over on X, which is at
Michael Brown USA. And I think I think must recognize that,
oh worldwide, I can actually start influencing politics, say in
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the UK or in Germany by opening up X two
divergent voices, even voices that might be pretty fringe, but
there's a mechanism within X that if you get way
too off the reservation, if you get way to run,
where you get start, where you're kind of dabbling in
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fascism or Nazism, well the community notes are going to
take care of that, and people are going to recognize it.
I think these Democrats assumed that they would have the
fealty of all these billionaires. I think they thought the arrangement,
you're going to pay to fund our woke liberal policies.
You're going to pay you know, the tenured editorialists and
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all the you know the nit with Yahoo commentators, all
the talking heads who espouse all those liberal, woke policies.
In exchange do you give, We're going to give you
a really soft regulatory touch and Wall Street boosting policies
that are going to let your wealth grow to immense
proportion and that's gonna be to everybody's benefit. And then
suddenly everybody's like, no, you've been censoring us. And the
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first to recognize that was Elon Musk. And now we
find you know, go back to the pandemic for a moment.
When they pushed for steps that made the leaders of
industry decidedly uncomfortable, it became really avoidably clear that there
was a new deal that was in order. And this
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time around, all those tech executives, everybody from Google, Apple, Meta,
they more than just met with Trump. They sought to
influence Trump. And they'd respond to this new reality by
putting loud illiberals back in their place, daring them to
post their principal walkouts on Blue Sky. Let's break in.
I want to hear what Bobby Kennedy has to say.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Remember, and members of this distinguished committee. I'm humble to
be sitting here as President Trump's nominee oversee the US
Department of Health and Services.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I want to say.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
President Trump for intrusting me to deliver on his promise
to make America healthy again. I also wanted to Sheryl
and Kick and Bobby, and all my other children who
are here today, and all the many members of my
large extended family for the love that they have so
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generously shared. Ours has always been a family that has
been involved in public service, and I look forward to
continuing that tradition. My journey into the issue of health
began with my career as an environmental attorney, working with
hunters and fishermen and mothers in the small town in
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the Hudson Valley and along the Hudson River. I learned
very early on that human health and environmental injuries are intertwined.
The same chemicals that kill fish make people sick. Also, today,
American's overall health is in grievous condition. Over seventy percent
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of adults and a third of children are.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Overweight or obese.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Diabetes is ten times more prevalent than it was during
the nineteen sixties. Cancer among young people is rising by
one or two percent a year. Autoimmune diseases, neurodevelopmental disorders, Alzheimer's, asthma, ADHD, depression, addiction,
and alost of other physical and mental health conditions are
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all on the rise of them exponentially. The United States
has worse health than any other developed nation.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, we spend more.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
On healthcare, at least double and in some cases triple
as other countries. Last year, we spent four point eight trillion,
not counting the indirect costs of missed work. That's almost
a fifth of GDB. It's tanamount to a twenty percent
tax on the entire economy.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
No wonder America.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Has trouble competing with countries that pay a third of
all we do for health and have better outcomes and
a healthier workforce. And I don't want to make this
too much about money. It's the human strategy that moves.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Us to care.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
President Trump has promised to restore America's global strength and
to restore the American dream, but he understands we can't
be a strong nation one our people are so sick.
A healthy person has a thousand dreams, a sick person
has only one. Today, over half of our countrymen and
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women are chronically ill. When I met with President Trump
last summer, I discovered that he is more than just
concern for the stragic situation, but genuine care. President Trump
is committed to restoring the American dream and seventy seven
million Americans delivered a mandated to him to do just that,
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doing part to the embrace and elevation that make America
Healthy Again movement. This movement led largely by MAHA moms
from every state, and you can see many of them
behind us today and in the hallways and in the lobbies.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
It is one of.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
The most transcendent and powerful movements I've ever seen. I
promise President Trump that, if confirmed, I will do everything
in my power to put the health of Americans back
on track. I've been greatly heartened to discover a deep
level of care among members of this committee, to both
Democrats and Republicans. I came away from our conversations confident
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that we can put aside our divisions for the sake
of a healthy America. For a long time, the nation
has been locked in a divisive health care debate about
who pays. When healthcare cause reached twenty percent, there are
no good options, only bad ones. Shifting the burden around
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between government men and corporations and insurers and providers and
families is like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Our
country will sink beneath the sea of desperation debt if
we don't change the course and ask I are health
care costs so high in the first place? The obvious
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answer is chronic disease. The CDC says ninety percent of
healthcare spending goes toward managing chronic disease, which hits lower
income Americans the hardest. The President's pledge is not to
make some Americans happy again, to healthy again, but to
make all of our people healthy again. There is no
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single culprit in chronic disease. Much as I have criticized
certain industries and agencies, President Trump and I understand that
most of their scientists and experts genuinely care about American health. Therefore,
we will bring together allakeholders in pursuit of this unifying goal.
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Before I conclude, I want to make sure the committee
is clear about a few things. News reports have claimed
that I am anti vaccine or any industry.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I am neither.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
I am pro safety.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
If we can't have a complimation, interruption.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Please proceed, mister Kennedy, I am pro safety.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
I worked for years to raise awareness about the mercury
and toxic chemicals and fish, and nobody called me any fish.
And I believe that all that vaccines play a critical
role in healthcare. All of my kids are vaccinated. I've
written many books on vaccines. My first book in twenty fourteen,
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line of it is I am not anti vaccine, and
the last line is I am not anti vaccine or
I'm the enemy.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Of food producers.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
American farms in the bedrock of our culture, of our politics.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Of our national security.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
I was a four h kid and I spent my
summer working on ranches, but I went to work with
our farmers.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I want to work with our.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Farmers and food producers, removes and regulations and unleash American engineers.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Who knows what the questions are going to be. He's
laying a good predicate. He needs to be confirmed. I
don't agree with everything about Bobby Kennedy, but he needs
to be confirmed because this is an issue that does
need to be addressed.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Everybody's banning sugar for obesity.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I disagree. It's not sugar. It's a high food toast
corn syrup.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Look that stuff up and makes bears overeat for winter slumber.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
It's in everything.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
It's hidden in everything.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Is if you actually go to the store. By the way,
dragon real quick, Oh, we get another interruption going on.
But Kennedy was being asked about by Ron Wyden about
his vaccine stance. Can we just jump in, like right now,
can we jump in.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
And to the.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Audience, leaving mister Kennedy to the audience. Comments from the
audience are inappropriate and out of order, and if there
are any further disruptions, the committee will recess until the
police can restore order. Please follow the rules of the committee.
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Mister Kennedy, you may proceed.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I always want to point out a year of what
happened in Samoa is absolutely wrong.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
It's wrong.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
We'll get to that in a moment. Right now, we're
talking about the petition that you filed to block Americans
from having access to the vaccine and to prevent any
future access to the vaccine. Those facts are on the record.
My third question to you is uh, you made almost
five million dollars from book deals, mostly promoting junk science.
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In twenty twenty one, in a book called The Measles Book,
you wrote that parents have been quoting this led into
believing that measles is a deadly disease and that measles
vaccines are necessary, safe, and effective. The reality is measles
are in fact deadly, and highly contagious, something that you
should have learned after your lives. Contributed to the deaths
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of eighty three people, most of them children, in a
measles outbreak in Samoa. So my question here is, mister Kennedy,
is measles deadly? Yes or no?
Speaker 4 (19:54):
The death rate from measles historically in this country sixty
three the year before the instruction of the vaccine was
one in ten thousand. Let me explain what happened in Samoa.
And in Samoa in twenty seventeen or twenty fifteen, there
were two kids who died following the MMR vaccine, and
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the vaccination rates in Samoa dropped precipitously from about sixty
three percent to the mid thirty so that never been
very high. And in twenty eighteen, two more kids died
following the MMR vaccine and the government's Samoa banned the
MMR vaccine. I arrived a year later when vaccination rates
were already below below any previous level. I went there
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nothing to do with vaccines. I went there to introduce
a medical informatic system. I would digitalize records in Samoa
and make health delivery much more efficient. I never taught
gave any public statement about vaccines.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
You cannot find a single samoen who will.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Say I didn't get a vaccine because of Bobby Kennedy.
I went in June of twenty nineteen. The measles house
break started in August. Oh, clearly I had nothing to
do with the measles. Not only that Kennedy, editor, and
not only that. If you let me finish, you have
had some time.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
If you have me finished, editor.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
If you let me finish, there are eighty three people
died and the tissue samples were sent to New Zealand.
Most of those people did not have measles. We don't
know what was killing them. The same outbreak occurred in
Donga and Fiji, and no extra people died. There were
seven measles outbreaks in the thirteen years prior to my arrival.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
Would like to get my time back. The nominee wrote
a book saying that people had been misled into believing
that measles is a deadly disease. He's trying to That's
not what the parents say, that's not what God.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Did you ever have me?
Speaker 7 (22:01):
No I did, even one of the rare ones that
haven't even had chicken pox Oh really, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Had chicken pox and I had measles, and I think,
checks wrist, I'm still alive.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
You look well sometimes you look like you're still alive.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Well, I didn't say hi, Look, I just say that
the body is still functioning. The body is still breathing.
It may be an ugly ass body, but it's.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Still worky doubly correct. Yes, But here's.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
What drives me nuts about these I've told you before.
He Ron Wyden asked a question, Kennedy's trying to explain that. Listen,
you're twisting the words about what I said in the book.
Let me explain what is really said in the book. Now,
we can all go read the book if we wanted to,
but nobody's going to go do that. Nobody's going to do.
Speaker 7 (22:53):
It or argument, though he did ask a simple direct question.
Is measles deadly? Yes or no?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
But I don't think that's what's the definition of deadly.
If if if the death rate from measles is let's say, uh,
two point eight percent of you know, X millions of children,
then I'd say no, it's not deadly. If measles kills
fifty percent of the people who who contract measles die,
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then I'd say, yes, measles is deadly. So what's the
set by which we're measuring? What's you know what, Let's
compare apples to apples here. Let's find out what the
set is that you're using to establish that measles is deadly.
And and the point about being in Samoa is to
his point, he's being accused of going to Samoa and
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encouraging people not to get the measles vaccine up vaccine,
and he's pointing out that I wasn't there during the
outbreak of whatever it was, and that the tissue samples
that they took from these dead children that died after
getting the vaccine showed that they didn't have measles. They
had something else. Now, is that from the vaccine. I'm
not saying it is. I'm just saying what's it from.
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If it wasn't measles, then then what was the proximate
cause of the death. If I were in a courtroom
and I was trying a case and the allegation was
that this person died of measles, and I've got tissue
samples from a medical examiner or from a competent lab
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of jurisdiction of competent jurisdiction. That's admissible into evidence, and
they can say we don't know what caused the death.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
We have some unknown thing here that.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Is the cause of death or or is showing up,
but measles is not showing up. Then I would be
arguing that meass was not the proximate cause of the death.
Something unknown to We don't know what it was, but
it was not measles because measles is not in the
tissue samples. Here's the other thing that's going on. Look again,
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I've got emphasize I'm not anti vaccine.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I've got all the vaccines.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I do think, however, that if you look at the
and you can find these charts all over the interwebs,
the number of vaccines that we give almost immediately to
newborns is off the charts. I mean, it's a list.
You take it eight and a half by eleven sheet
of paper, It takes up the entire page of paper.
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You know, when I was born, of course, it was
the dark age, just before medicine was actually invented. Then
you had, you know, you had like four or five vaccines.
I think we only be spreading these out You have
a newborn body, a newborn baby whose brain and organs
are just beginning to function on their own, and they're
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growing rapidly. Sales are expanding rapidly. Why don't we Why
don't we pace these vaccines out, not overload that human
system with all of these external foreign bodies. They're supposed
to create the antibodies that then cause the body to
start overreacting to everything at the same time that it's
trying to grow. It just doesn't make sense to me.
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Doesn't mean I'm anti vaccine. It just means I think
the protocols that we have set up ought to be
looked at. Let's take it one step further. I'm looking
at a screenshop right now of a video taken before
the hearing even started. Now, I can't tell what news
outlet this is. It's kind of her It just says
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press only, so I'm not sure who it is, but
they already have the headline written. Now it's a word
document and the headline is RFK Junior faces grilling on
anti vaccine comments and animal mutilation at confirmation hearing. Trump
Live updates and then below that empty because at the
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time this was taken, the hearing hadn't even st so
they've already got the narrative. They just need to twist
and edit and contort and distort whatever is said today
to fit their predetermined headline. Will they get a fair hearing.
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I think the Republicans will ensure that he gets a
fair hearing. And I think you ought to be confirmed.
And as Trump has said before, like you said, Elon Musk,
you're not the president, and he's gonna say the same
thing to Bobby Kennedy Junior. You know, if you want
to study vaccines, go study vaccines. But you're not going
to ban vaccines, and you're not going to say anything
about you know you should or should not be taking vaccines.
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But if you want to study them, have at it.
And you know what, why shouldn't we study them? I'll
be right back back in my day, they didn't even
have vaccines.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I just rubbed some dirt on it. They ever got sick, uh.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Forty four to sixty seven, Michael. If the pharmaceutical companies
didn't get immunity for being suited were vaccines, there would
be far few on the vaccine schedule, probably true, or
at least they would revise the vaccine schedule. Again, I
don't have enough information to question any individual vaccine on
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the schedule. What I do question is taking a newborn
child and taking that schedule and within the first year
of their life, with that little growing body, injecting all
of those vaccines into that body as those cells are
trying to propagate and expand and grow, that the brain
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is forming in all of those And we have the
admission now from Pfiser. We played it this week where
Pfiser admitted they never did any tests about the SARS
CoV two so called vaccine, about whether or not it
even prevented transmission twenty six to fifty. Michael, the Dems
don't care about vaccination. If they do, they would stop
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and vaccinate all of the illegal immigrants before they come
into the country. They were fine with kids that are
not vaccinated in our schools and exposing our kids to
diseases from I think you mean from other countries exactly,
or old nine three eight ht ist htoo is deadly,
that's right, Michael. Is peanut butter deadly to some people?
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It absolutely is. I just I think what bumpfolks said
just before we went to break. Oh, here here's Michael Bennet.
Let's jump in and see what Michael Bennett says.
Speaker 8 (29:32):
The massive social media platforms that were sitting behind the
President of the United States have inflicted in our children
for their profit in the last decade or so. So
we have no shortage of challenges to confront, and I
even agree with some of the diagnosis of mister Kennedy.
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What is so disturbing to me is that out of
three hundred and thirty million Americans were being asked to
put somebody in this job who has spent fifty years
of his life not honoring the tradition that he talked
about at the beginning of this conversation, but pedaling in
half truths, pedaling in false statements, pedaling in theories that
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you know create doubt about whether or not things that
we know are safe are unsafe. Not that every vaccine
in America is unsafe, not that you can't possibly have
an adverse reaction, but that parents and children in my
old school district and school districts all this country would
be better off not getting vaccinated than getting vaccinated. Unlike
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his own children who were vaccinated, Unlike the people he
invited to his house in Los Angeles for their party
who were vaccinated for everybody else. It's about pedaling. These
have truths, and he says it with such conviction that
you want to believe him. And mister Kennedy, I just
have some There are many many things in the record,
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but I hope that you could answer these questions.
Speaker 7 (31:11):
Yes or no.
Speaker 8 (31:12):
I've tried to ask these a manner that's faithful to
what you actually said, because I didn't want to have
a debate about whether you actually said them. So I'm
asking you yes or no. Mister Kennedy, did you say
that COVID nineteen was a genetically engineered bioweapon the targets
black and white people but spared Ashkenazi, Jews and Chinese people.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
I didn't say it was deliberately targeted. I just I
just quoted an NIH funded, an Ani age.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Published study.
Speaker 8 (31:45):
Did you say that it targets black and white people
but spared I just quote I study.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
I quote a study.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I take that as race.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
I have to move on to move on.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Did you say this line the NIH study? Don't you
have any curiosity about Oh, you quoted in h study.
I'd like to know what that study is. But these
senators have no curiosity whatsoever, none whatsoever. That that in fact,
that's not even the objective here. The objective is, let's
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just try to decimate the nominee. You know, let's go
back to Ron Wyden because I think this is lowering
the boom on the Democrats.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
All of these things cannot be true.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Waymen, Yes they can. Many things can be true at once.
I have no idea what he's referring to, but there
can be many conflicting truths at the same time.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
So are you lying to Congress today when you say
you are a pro vaccine or did you lie on
all those podcasts? We have all of this on tape,
by the way.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Senator, as you know, because there's been repeatedly debunked. That
statement that I made on the Lex Friedman podcast was
a fragment of the statement.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
He asked me, and.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Anybody who actually goes and looks at that podcast.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Can the bull see this?
Speaker 4 (33:13):
He asked me, are there vaccines that are saving effective?
And I said to him, some of the live virus
vaccines are. And I said, there are no vaccines that
are saving effective. And I was going to continue for
every person, every medicine has people who are sensitive to them,
including vaccines. So he interrupted me at that point. I've
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corrected it many times, including on national TV. You know
about the Senator Widen. So bring this up right now.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Is dishonest? Is being dishonest. But let's step back for
just a moment.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Do you think Bobby Kennedy Junior as Secretary of Health
and Human Services is going.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
To ban vaccines? He's not. Do you think Trump would
allow him to do that?
Speaker 3 (34:00):
No, So let's say, for the sake of argument, that
Bobby Kennedy Junior, for some vaccines, actually his anti vaccine.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
So what.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I'm the anti SARS CoV two vaccine, but I'm pro
vaccine on others? Is that just not that I'm qualified anyway?
Would that just qualify me if that were my position,
because that seems to be his position. I think some
vaccines are good. I think some are questionable, and we
ought to recognize that everybody reacts.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
To them differently. But as long as there's no as
long as there's immunity, and there's in
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Every any legal liability imposed in the pharmaceutical industries, why
they can just keep, as the Gooper says, just keep
adding to the schedule, just keep paying the pharmaceutical companies
Michael, what is wrong with this traffic person? I mean,
I'm down here at Happy Canned. It ain't so happy
to day because we're on the twenty five northbound and
we're doing like ten miles an hour, but nothing on traffic.
Do they not like us down here? I guess this
is Douglas County. You know, Conservatives, we don't count. I'm
gonna get that Brockler guy after her Man. There's got
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to be something illegal bout discriminating against the dug goat.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Now they're bitching because they're shockingly stuck in traffic in Denver, Colorado.
So Bobby Kennedy Junior's confirmation hearing is about to start.
Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon, who is a total richard,
is getting his opening statement, so I'm sure he's lambasting him.
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Kennedy is just kind of staring off at him, like,
you know, I'd like to just like pound your head
into the wall, but I do want to hear what
he has to say. So if and when Kennedy's statement
opening statement begins, we'll we'll dip into that because this
is the probably well Tulci Gabbard. Bobby Kennedy Jr. Are
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probably two of the more so called controversial nominees. And
of course Kennedy has had some controversial positions on certain things,
but he's still going to have to do the president's agenda,
and I think that's what he's going to emphasize today.
By the way, speaking of Tulca Gabbard, before I get
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back to the death of the media, the at least
the life support of the cabal, the Senate back in
the early seventeen hundreds held secret votes. Everything they voted
on was secret. I forget exactly how long they did that,
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maybe until like seventeen ninety four or something, but they
were accused of being a star chamber. So the Senate
never again held another secret vote. But when it comes
to Tulci Gabbard, they're actually thinking about breaking a two
hundred and thirty one year old rule and holding a
vote on Tulsi Gabbard in secret. Now the vote it's
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there may be some conversation about some national security issue
that they want to hold in secret, and I don't
have a problem with that, but holding your vote in secret.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
No.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
The New York Times, speaking of media dying, did a
horrible hit piece on Tulsi Gabbard yesterday it was it
was over the top awful. I'll get to that in
a minute. Let's get back right now to the to
the death of the cabal, or at least their their
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own life support. So this whole crackup that I just
described before in that break that we messed up. You know, yeah,
Chris Wallace, you got camer Oad, you got Jim Acosta,
you got uh Andrea Mitchell, who am I leaving out?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
He got all these who to whatever her name is.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Over it the Today Show that they've all disappeared and
they're all going through. By the way, referencing our very
first talk back, or not the very first one, but
the one about when I was ramping about we need
to reduce the federal workforce. They need to come back
to work. You know what, some of those people didn't
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want to do what management wanted to do, and they
got fired. Another example the private sector. But this kind
of media crackup is ironic because while they decry billionaires,
they also saw billionaires as kind of their life saver.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
That was.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
That was the life preserver that they thought was going
to save them. So Jeff Bezos Amazon for a quarter
of a billion dollars, which seems like a trifling amount,
bought the Washington Post Democracy Dies in the Darkness back
in twenty thirteen, and then doctor Sun Chiong's half billion
dollar purchase of the La Times in twenty eighteen. Both
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of those purchases were seen as, Oh, the billionaires are
going to come in and save us, And of course,
Silicon Valley was generally shared with the big media's editorial employees.
They seemed content to let the press do whatever it
wanted to do until there was a point. And this
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always happens with rich people. They buy something because well,
they think it's going to be interesting, or they think
it's going to be you know, it's going to diversify
their portfolio, or it's something they want to dabble in,
and so they spend you know, a half a billion here,
a billion dollars here, and they buy a couple of newspapers,
and then suddenly they realize, well, holy craft, we're bleeding money,
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and my billion dollar investments going down the drain. So
they reach a point where those very people who got
very rich by paying attention to how they got rich,
they suddenly take a greater interest in the bottom line
and then they start realizing how much the media disagrees
hypocritically with the same free speech values that those billionaires
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claim to uphold. After the eruption of all the racial
strife back in twenty twenty and all the increasingly divisive
gender politics during the COVID pandemic, the owners of the
media companies discovered that funding all of those salaries, promising
millions to diversity, equity and inclusion agendas, and even alreading
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calls for censorship kind of didn't serve to purchase indulgences
from the loudest people in the newsroom or from the
HR department. Owners got tired of the assumption that they
existed to fund the work of people that they no
longer viewed as worth supporting, and they became increasingly open
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to the idea that there could be no profit, there
could be no peace in funding the creaky voice of
the entrenched illiberal left. They woke up, think about Elon
Musk for a moment, forty four billion dollars to purchase
Twitter in twenty twenty two. I think that was the
start of the end. That was the beginning of the end.
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That was a mega purchase that began almost as a
joke that turned into truly a historically transf transformative event,
and not just for our pullets, but for media across
the world, and I think for the culture itself.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Because musks.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Decision making style didn't just drive away the media's blue
check elites. Remember some of us had the blue check
mark because of who we were. Well, now anybody can
buy a blue check mark as long as you're willing
to verify who you are. So that kind of pushed
the Overton window on the possibilities of the super rich
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tech men and yes they're all men. Ironically, it kind
of pushed that Overton window over here to such a
degree that now they recognize that, whoa, there are all
these other voices out here. It's like the Overton window
didn't move, it actually opened. And they looked at they
(07:54):
and they started hearing all these other voices, and they recognize, Oh,
there's money to be made in opening, there's money to
be made in free speech, there's money to be made
in the First Amendment, by the clash of ideas, by
the clash of arguments, by people being able to actually
say what they want to say.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
And suddenly, what's happening Twitter.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Has become, as I said, for me personally, a major
news source for show preparation, which is why you ought
to be following me over on X, which is at
Michael Brown USA. And I think I think must recognize that,
oh worldwide, I can actually start influencing politics, say in
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the UK or in Germany by opening up X two
divergent voices, even voices that might be pretty fringe, but
there's a mechanism within X that if you get way
too off the reservation, if you get way to run,
where you get start, where you're kind of dabbling in
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fascism or Nazism, well the community notes are going to
take care of that, and people are going to recognize it.
I think these Democrats assumed that they would have the
fealty of all these billionaires. I think they thought the arrangement,
you're going to pay to fund our woke liberal policies.
You're going to pay you know, the tenured editorialists and
(09:26):
all the you know the nit with Yahoo commentators, all
the talking heads who espouse all those liberal, woke policies.
In exchange do you give, We're going to give you
a really soft regulatory touch and Wall Street boosting policies
that are going to let your wealth grow to immense
proportion and that's gonna be to everybody's benefit. And then
suddenly everybody's like, no, you've been censoring us. And the
(09:52):
first to recognize that was Elon Musk. And now we
find you know, go back to the pandemic for a moment.
When they pushed for steps that made the leaders of
industry decidedly uncomfortable, it became really avoidably clear that there
was a new deal that was in order. And this
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time around, all those tech executives, everybody from Google, Apple, Meta,
they more than just met with Trump. They sought to
influence Trump. And they'd respond to this new reality by
putting loud illiberals back in their place, daring them to
post their principal walkouts on Blue Sky. Let's break in.
I want to hear what Bobby Kennedy has to say.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Remember, and members of this distinguished committee. I'm humble to
be sitting here as President Trump's nominee oversee the US
Department of Health and Services.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I want to say.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
President Trump for intrusting me to deliver on his promise
to make America healthy again. I also wanted to Sheryl
and Kick and Bobby, and all my other children who
are here today, and all the many members of my
large extended family for the love that they have so
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generously shared. Ours has always been a family that has
been involved in public service, and I look forward to
continuing that tradition. My journey into the issue of health
began with my career as an environmental attorney, working with
hunters and fishermen and mothers in the small town in
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the Hudson Valley and along the Hudson River. I learned
very early on that human health and environmental injuries are intertwined.
The same chemicals that kill fish make people sick. Also, today,
American's overall health is in grievous condition. Over seventy percent
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of adults and a third of children are.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Overweight or obese.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Diabetes is ten times more prevalent than it was during
the nineteen sixties. Cancer among young people is rising by
one or two percent a year. Autoimmune diseases, neurodevelopmental disorders, Alzheimer's, asthma, ADHD, depression, addiction,
and alost of other physical and mental health conditions are
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all on the rise of them exponentially. The United States
has worse health than any other developed nation.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, we spend more.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
On healthcare, at least double and in some cases triple
as other countries. Last year, we spent four point eight trillion,
not counting the indirect costs of missed work. That's almost
a fifth of GDB. It's tanamount to a twenty percent
tax on the entire economy.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
No wonder America.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Has trouble competing with countries that pay a third of
all we do for health and have better outcomes and
a healthier workforce. And I don't want to make this
too much about money. It's the human strategy that moves.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Us to care.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
President Trump has promised to restore America's global strength and
to restore the American dream, but he understands we can't
be a strong nation one our people are so sick.
A healthy person has a thousand dreams, a sick person
has only one. Today, over half of our countrymen and
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women are chronically ill. When I met with President Trump
last summer, I discovered that he is more than just
concern for the stragic situation, but genuine care. President Trump
is committed to restoring the American dream and seventy seven
million Americans delivered a mandated to him to do just that,
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doing part to the embrace and elevation that make America
Healthy Again movement. This movement led largely by MAHA moms
from every state, and you can see many of them
behind us today and in the hallways and in the lobbies.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
It is one of.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
The most transcendent and powerful movements I've ever seen. I
promise President Trump that, if confirmed, I will do everything
in my power to put the health of Americans back
on track. I've been greatly heartened to discover a deep
level of care among members of this committee, to both
Democrats and Republicans. I came away from our conversations confident
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that we can put aside our divisions for the sake
of a healthy America. For a long time, the nation
has been locked in a divisive health care debate about
who pays. When healthcare cause reached twenty percent, there are
no good options, only bad ones. Shifting the burden around
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between government men and corporations and insurers and providers and
families is like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Our
country will sink beneath the sea of desperation debt if
we don't change the course and ask I are health
care costs so high in the first place? The obvious
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answer is chronic disease. The CDC says ninety percent of
healthcare spending goes toward managing chronic disease, which hits lower
income Americans the hardest. The President's pledge is not to
make some Americans happy again, to healthy again, but to
make all of our people healthy again. There is no
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single culprit in chronic disease. Much as I have criticized
certain industries and agencies, President Trump and I understand that
most of their scientists and experts genuinely care about American health. Therefore,
we will bring together allakeholders in pursuit of this unifying goal.
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Before I conclude, I want to make sure the committee
is clear about a few things. News reports have claimed
that I am anti vaccine or any industry.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I am neither.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
I am pro safety.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
If we can't have a complimation, interruption.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Please proceed, mister Kennedy, I am pro safety.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
I worked for years to raise awareness about the mercury
and toxic chemicals and fish, and nobody called me any fish.
And I believe that all that vaccines play a critical
role in healthcare. All of my kids are vaccinated. I've
written many books on vaccines. My first book in twenty fourteen,
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line of it is I am not anti vaccine, and
the last line is I am not anti vaccine or
I'm the enemy.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Of food producers.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
American farms in the bedrock of our culture, of our politics.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Of our national security.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
I was a four h kid and I spent my
summer working on ranches, but I went to work with
our farmers.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I want to work with our.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Farmers and food producers, removes and regulations and unleash American engineers.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Who knows what the questions are going to be. He's
laying a good predicate. He needs to be confirmed. I
don't agree with everything about Bobby Kennedy, but he needs
to be confirmed because this is an issue that does
need to be addressed.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Everybody's banning sugar for obesity.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I disagree. It's not sugar. It's a high food toast
corn syrup.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Look that stuff up and makes bears overeat for winter slumber.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
It's in everything.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
It's hidden in everything.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Is if you actually go to the store. By the way,
dragon real quick, Oh, we get another interruption going on.
But Kennedy was being asked about by Ron Wyden about
his vaccine stance. Can we just jump in, like right now,
can we jump in.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
And to the.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Audience, leaving mister Kennedy to the audience. Comments from the
audience are inappropriate and out of order, and if there
are any further disruptions, the committee will recess until the
police can restore order. Please follow the rules of the committee.
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Mister Kennedy, you may proceed.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
I always want to point out a year of what
happened in Samoa is absolutely wrong.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
It's wrong.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
We'll get to that in a moment. Right now, we're
talking about the petition that you filed to block Americans
from having access to the vaccine and to prevent any
future access to the vaccine. Those facts are on the record.
My third question to you is uh, you made almost
five million dollars from book deals, mostly promoting junk science.
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In twenty twenty one, in a book called The Measles Book,
you wrote that parents have been quoting this led into
believing that measles is a deadly disease and that measles
vaccines are necessary, safe, and effective. The reality is measles
are in fact deadly, and highly contagious, something that you
should have learned after your lives. Contributed to the deaths
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of eighty three people, most of them children, in a
measles outbreak in Samoa. So my question here is, mister Kennedy,
is measles deadly? Yes or no?
Speaker 4 (19:54):
The death rate from measles historically in this country sixty
three the year before the instruction of the vaccine was
one in ten thousand. Let me explain what happened in Samoa.
And in Samoa in twenty seventeen or twenty fifteen, there
were two kids who died following the MMR vaccine, and
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the vaccination rates in Samoa dropped precipitously from about sixty
three percent to the mid thirty so that never been
very high. And in twenty eighteen, two more kids died
following the MMR vaccine and the government's Samoa banned the
MMR vaccine. I arrived a year later when vaccination rates
were already below below any previous level. I went there
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nothing to do with vaccines. I went there to introduce
a medical informatic system. I would digitalize records in Samoa
and make health delivery much more efficient. I never taught
gave any public statement about vaccines.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
You cannot find a single samoen who will.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Say I didn't get a vaccine because of Bobby Kennedy.
I went in June of twenty nineteen. The measles house
break started in August. Oh, clearly I had nothing to
do with the measles. Not only that Kennedy, editor, and
not only that. If you let me finish, you have
had some time.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
If you have me finished, editor.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
If you let me finish, there are eighty three people
died and the tissue samples were sent to New Zealand.
Most of those people did not have measles. We don't
know what was killing them. The same outbreak occurred in
Donga and Fiji, and no extra people died. There were
seven measles outbreaks in the thirteen years prior to my arrival.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
Would like to get my time back. The nominee wrote
a book saying that people had been misled into believing
that measles is a deadly disease. He's trying to That's
not what the parents say, that's not what God.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Did you ever have me?
Speaker 7 (22:01):
No I did, even one of the rare ones that
haven't even had chicken pox Oh really, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Had chicken pox and I had measles, and I think,
checks wrist, I'm still alive.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
You look well sometimes you look like you're still alive.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Well, I didn't say hi, Look, I just say that
the body is still functioning. The body is still breathing.
It may be an ugly ass body, but it's.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Still worky doubly correct. Yes, But here's.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
What drives me nuts about these I've told you before.
He Ron Wyden asked a question, Kennedy's trying to explain that. Listen,
you're twisting the words about what I said in the book.
Let me explain what is really said in the book. Now,
we can all go read the book if we wanted to,
but nobody's going to go do that. Nobody's going to do.
Speaker 7 (22:53):
It or argument, though he did ask a simple direct question.
Is measles deadly? Yes or no?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
But I don't think that's what's the definition of deadly.
If if if the death rate from measles is let's say, uh,
two point eight percent of you know, X millions of children,
then I'd say no, it's not deadly. If measles kills
fifty percent of the people who who contract measles die,
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then I'd say, yes, measles is deadly. So what's the
set by which we're measuring? What's you know what, Let's
compare apples to apples here. Let's find out what the
set is that you're using to establish that measles is deadly.
And and the point about being in Samoa is to
his point, he's being accused of going to Samoa and
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encouraging people not to get the measles vaccine up vaccine,
and he's pointing out that I wasn't there during the
outbreak of whatever it was, and that the tissue samples
that they took from these dead children that died after
getting the vaccine showed that they didn't have measles. They
had something else. Now, is that from the vaccine. I'm
not saying it is. I'm just saying what's it from.
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If it wasn't measles, then then what was the proximate
cause of the death. If I were in a courtroom
and I was trying a case and the allegation was
that this person died of measles, and I've got tissue
samples from a medical examiner or from a competent lab
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of jurisdiction of competent jurisdiction. That's admissible into evidence, and
they can say we don't know what caused the death.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
We have some unknown thing here that.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Is the cause of death or or is showing up,
but measles is not showing up. Then I would be
arguing that meass was not the proximate cause of the death.
Something unknown to We don't know what it was, but
it was not measles because measles is not in the
tissue samples. Here's the other thing that's going on. Look again,
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I've got emphasize I'm not anti vaccine.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I've got all the vaccines.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I do think, however, that if you look at the
and you can find these charts all over the interwebs,
the number of vaccines that we give almost immediately to
newborns is off the charts. I mean, it's a list.
You take it eight and a half by eleven sheet
of paper, It takes up the entire page of paper.
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You know, when I was born, of course, it was
the dark age, just before medicine was actually invented. Then
you had, you know, you had like four or five vaccines.
I think we only be spreading these out You have
a newborn body, a newborn baby whose brain and organs
are just beginning to function on their own, and they're
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growing rapidly. Sales are expanding rapidly. Why don't we Why
don't we pace these vaccines out, not overload that human
system with all of these external foreign bodies. They're supposed
to create the antibodies that then cause the body to
start overreacting to everything at the same time that it's
trying to grow. It just doesn't make sense to me.
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Doesn't mean I'm anti vaccine. It just means I think
the protocols that we have set up ought to be
looked at. Let's take it one step further. I'm looking
at a screenshop right now of a video taken before
the hearing even started. Now, I can't tell what news
outlet this is. It's kind of her It just says
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press only, so I'm not sure who it is, but
they already have the headline written. Now it's a word
document and the headline is RFK Junior faces grilling on
anti vaccine comments and animal mutilation at confirmation hearing. Trump
Live updates and then below that empty because at the
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time this was taken, the hearing hadn't even st so
they've already got the narrative. They just need to twist
and edit and contort and distort whatever is said today
to fit their predetermined headline. Will they get a fair hearing.
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I think the Republicans will ensure that he gets a
fair hearing. And I think you ought to be confirmed.
And as Trump has said before, like you said, Elon Musk,
you're not the president, and he's gonna say the same
thing to Bobby Kennedy Junior. You know, if you want
to study vaccines, go study vaccines. But you're not going
to ban vaccines, and you're not going to say anything
about you know you should or should not be taking vaccines.
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But if you want to study them, have at it.
And you know what, why shouldn't we study them? I'll
be right back back in my day, they didn't even
have vaccines.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I just rubbed some dirt on it. They ever got sick, uh.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Forty four to sixty seven, Michael. If the pharmaceutical companies
didn't get immunity for being suited were vaccines, there would
be far few on the vaccine schedule, probably true, or
at least they would revise the vaccine schedule. Again, I
don't have enough information to question any individual vaccine on
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the schedule. What I do question is taking a newborn
child and taking that schedule and within the first year
of their life, with that little growing body, injecting all
of those vaccines into that body as those cells are
trying to propagate and expand and grow, that the brain
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is forming in all of those And we have the
admission now from Pfiser. We played it this week where
Pfiser admitted they never did any tests about the SARS
CoV two so called vaccine, about whether or not it
even prevented transmission twenty six to fifty. Michael, the Dems
don't care about vaccination. If they do, they would stop
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and vaccinate all of the illegal immigrants before they come
into the country. They were fine with kids that are
not vaccinated in our schools and exposing our kids to
diseases from I think you mean from other countries exactly,
or old nine three eight ht ist htoo is deadly,
that's right, Michael. Is peanut butter deadly to some people?
(29:21):
It absolutely is. I just I think what bumpfolks said
just before we went to break. Oh, here here's Michael Bennet.
Let's jump in and see what Michael Bennett says.
Speaker 8 (29:32):
The massive social media platforms that were sitting behind the
President of the United States have inflicted in our children
for their profit in the last decade or so. So
we have no shortage of challenges to confront, and I
even agree with some of the diagnosis of mister Kennedy.
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What is so disturbing to me is that out of
three hundred and thirty million Americans were being asked to
put somebody in this job who has spent fifty years
of his life not honoring the tradition that he talked
about at the beginning of this conversation, but pedaling in
half truths, pedaling in false statements, pedaling in theories that
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you know create doubt about whether or not things that
we know are safe are unsafe. Not that every vaccine
in America is unsafe, not that you can't possibly have
an adverse reaction, but that parents and children in my
old school district and school districts all this country would
be better off not getting vaccinated than getting vaccinated. Unlike
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his own children who were vaccinated, Unlike the people he
invited to his house in Los Angeles for their party
who were vaccinated for everybody else. It's about pedaling. These
have truths, and he says it with such conviction that
you want to believe him. And mister Kennedy, I just
have some There are many many things in the record,
(31:08):
but I hope that you could answer these questions.
Speaker 7 (31:11):
Yes or no.
Speaker 8 (31:12):
I've tried to ask these a manner that's faithful to
what you actually said, because I didn't want to have
a debate about whether you actually said them. So I'm
asking you yes or no. Mister Kennedy, did you say
that COVID nineteen was a genetically engineered bioweapon the targets
black and white people but spared Ashkenazi, Jews and Chinese people.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
I didn't say it was deliberately targeted. I just I
just quoted an NIH funded, an Ani age.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Published study.
Speaker 8 (31:45):
Did you say that it targets black and white people
but spared I just quote I study.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
I quote a study.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I take that as race.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
I have to move on to move on.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Did you say this line the NIH study? Don't you
have any curiosity about Oh, you quoted in h study.
I'd like to know what that study is. But these
senators have no curiosity whatsoever, none whatsoever. That that in fact,
that's not even the objective here. The objective is, let's
(32:18):
just try to decimate the nominee. You know, let's go
back to Ron Wyden because I think this is lowering
the boom on the Democrats.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
All of these things cannot be true.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Waymen, Yes they can. Many things can be true at once.
I have no idea what he's referring to, but there
can be many conflicting truths at the same time.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
So are you lying to Congress today when you say
you are a pro vaccine or did you lie on
all those podcasts? We have all of this on tape,
by the way.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Senator, as you know, because there's been repeatedly debunked. That
statement that I made on the Lex Friedman podcast was
a fragment of the statement.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
He asked me, and.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Anybody who actually goes and looks at that podcast.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Can the bull see this?
Speaker 4 (33:13):
He asked me, are there vaccines that are saving effective?
And I said to him, some of the live virus
vaccines are. And I said, there are no vaccines that
are saving effective. And I was going to continue for
every person, every medicine has people who are sensitive to them,
including vaccines. So he interrupted me at that point. I've
(33:36):
corrected it many times, including on national TV. You know
about the Senator Widen. So bring this up right now.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Is dishonest? Is being dishonest. But let's step back for
just a moment.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Do you think Bobby Kennedy Junior as Secretary of Health
and Human Services is going.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
To ban vaccines? He's not. Do you think Trump would
allow him to do that?
Speaker 3 (34:00):
No, So let's say, for the sake of argument, that
Bobby Kennedy Junior, for some vaccines, actually his anti vaccine.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
So what.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I'm the anti SARS CoV two vaccine, but I'm pro
vaccine on others? Is that just not that I'm qualified anyway?
Would that just qualify me if that were my position,
because that seems to be his position. I think some
vaccines are good. I think some are questionable, and we
ought to recognize that everybody reacts.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
To them differently. But as long as there's no as
long as there's immunity, and there's in
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Every any legal liability imposed in the pharmaceutical industries, why
they can just keep, as the Gooper says, just keep
adding to the schedule, just keep paying the pharmaceutical companies
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