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February 25, 2025 • 34 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Joe, Jill, and Hunter. But I didn't have been out
of that White House for a week. Haven't heard a
pete from them, have we? But when you go from
a forty percent vacation schedule to one hundred percent vacation
schedule and your day involves maybe three to four hours
of work some days, I guess not much has probably

(00:23):
changed in Joe's life.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
That's an interesting for a little perspective. Now I don't again,
this is I'm chasing a squirrel here, surprise, surprise, but
don't hold me to the stats. But I thought I
heard someone say so. Therefore, I don't know whether it's
true or not. But just here's what's bouncing around in

(00:49):
my head, based only on that talk back, that Trump
has been at mar Lago for three weekends out of
the walk past four or five weekend since the inauguration,
and whoever was presenting those figures was talking about, you know,
he's golfing all the time. He's always at mar Lago,

(01:11):
and he's always doing this. And I thought, if all
you do is focus on the fact that he's at
mar a Lago and then you put your blinders on
and you ignore everything else going on, you'll realize, because
this was going to be the next topic I wanted
to address, and that was there is so much going

(01:34):
on right now, and there is. I mean, it's I
gotsh It's Tuesday, February twenty five, so we twenty five days,
so wow, we we can't. I actually worry about keeping

(01:55):
up this kind of pace now. I think the pace
will ebb and flow. But the change, if even the
changes are minor, their long term and their major in
the sense that there are changes that we've always talked

(02:16):
about but nobody's ever done. And I know that we
harp a lot about these bureaucrats, the career civil servants,
and as I have tried my damnedest to make clear,
this is not an indictment of everyone who works for

(02:39):
the federal government. So what is it, Well, it's an indictment.
It's an indictment of how the cabal is treating those
who are being who are being pointed out, who are
being exposed, who are being discovered that they're not doing

(03:00):
any work, or they're doing very little work, or and
we haven't really even gotten to this phase of it yet,
but the work they're doing is actually harmful to the Republic.
It's actually harmful to your business, it's harmful to the economy,
it's harmful to everything. Now you could say that about
all civil servants, with maybe the exception of ICE and

(03:23):
CBP and say DoD. But the people that promulgate right
and then impose these regulations and then impose the regulations
on your lives, your livelihood, your business, those are all destructive.
And again I'm not an anarchist. I believe in some regulation,

(03:43):
but I think we've become so overregulated, and we've been
so overregulated for so long that we've just unfortunately come
to accept it. And the people that do it to
you have probably never in their entire lifetime been responsible
for a payroll, have had to go out on their

(04:06):
own and learn how to feed themselves. And by and
by that, I mean, you know, hunt, and I don't
mean literally hunt, but you know, figure out a way
to I got to make some money because I got
to make a living. I've I've got to eat, I've
got to i've got to pay the mortgage. I got
to do something. They've they've never done that. I've told
you before, and it's and I don't I can't prove it.

(04:28):
To eat. I'll tell you I've witnessed it. There are
people who graduate, particularly from Ivy League schools, or they'll
graduate from Georgetown, they'll graduate from you know, American University,
They'll graduate from whatever in the DC area, and they
immediately go to work. In fact, even oftentimes before they

(04:49):
go to work, they become interns, and then once they graduate,
they get a full time job, and that job ends
up being their their career for their entire lifetime. Now,
in some cases, I actually don't have a problem with that.
There are some staffers, particularly on the Hill, who have

(05:10):
so much more knowledge, let's say, of the tax code
than do the members of the House Ways and Means Committee,
who actually are responsible for writing the tax code. So
they're wholly dependent upon these minions out there that serve

(05:30):
in their offices or serve on the committees for all
the institutional knowledge about the tax code. Now that's both
good and bad. I can tell you why it's good,
and I can tell you why it's bad. I think
you can figure that out for yourself. But for all
of the good people, you know, it's like any organization,

(05:53):
any organization, or any group of people, it just takes
that one bad person to then force to erroneously conclude
that they're all bad. But that does not mean that
we shouldn't then not point out the bad people because
too many people jump to the conclusion that they're all bad. No,
we should not do that. We should, in fact, we

(06:15):
should point out the bad people. It's like me talking
about bad cops. It's always been my belief, and I've
had cops tell me this that they too want to
eliminate the bad cops because the bad cops want to
make their job harder. So you know, somebody that you
know just shoots a kid sitting in a car's finally

(06:36):
found guilty after two trials, Well, that makes it harder
in all the other cops because now everybody that they
stop is in fear of their life. Or if you're not,
you should be, even though that cop has no intention
of shooting you whatsoever, but you have to behave yourself also,
So a bad cop makes it difficult for all other cops.

(06:59):
So therefore cops want cop bad cops to be eliminated.
So why do we have this difficult time discerning between
We're going to have some federal bureaucrats, we just are
we can eliminate all two three million of them unless

(07:19):
you want to live in anarchy, which is obviously what
the left wants us to do. So I pull out
one example, and I want you to hear this one example.
It's a former federal employee who spills I wouldn't say
all the secrets, but spills in her own words what
she discovered about incompetence and waste in the federal government.

(07:42):
Now I don't know this woman. I can't personally vouch
for her, but what I can vouch for are the
examples that she gives are either examples that I have
personally witnessed or that people that like her have come
to me and said, listen, you got to get rid

(08:04):
of so and so. They're down in they're down in
Response and Recovery, in the Response and Recovery Division, and
they've been working here since Jimmy Carter as president, and
they don't do feces, and you've got to do something
about them. So I know these anecdotes are true.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
I used to be a federal employee, and I'm going
to tell you why I don't feel bad for federal
employees being forced to come back into the workplace.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
I worked for the Army Corps of Engineers for almost
a year.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
See now, what I find funny about that is, if
you want me to go off on a particular organization, oh,
you know, I can go off on the IRS. I obviously,
I can go off on hold land Security. I can
go off on any number of government organizations. But the
Army Corps of Engineers talk about an organization that, don't

(09:01):
get me wrong, does good work, but an organization that
can get captured by the very people that they're supposed
to be serving. Look at the levees in New Orleans,
the responsibility of both the Army Corps of Engineers and
the levee boards in New Orleans. Why wasn't the Army

(09:26):
Corps of Engineers standing up for decades of abuse, decades
of negligence, decades of diversion of funds to instead of
maintenance and capital improvements, and the things they were supposed
to be doing, instead using it for all political purposes.
It's a great example of a government organization that gets captured,

(09:48):
much like you've got pharmaceutical companies that capture the FDA,
and the FDA that captures the pharmaceutical and it becomes
a symbiotic relationship. She comes from one of those organizations,
the Army Corps.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Of Engineers, and the abuses that I saw by government
employees was astounding.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
And shocking.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
I worked as a realty specialist, and that is someone
who manages government own lands, So when farmers and ranchersley's
land to graze cattle, we would manage that. When I
was hired, my boss bragged that it was basically impossible
to get fired from the federal government, and that in
her entire time working for the government, she'd only seen

(10:35):
one person fired, and that person assaulted a fellow employee.
And she wasn't even fired for assaulting the employee at work.
She was fired for lying about it because they caught
it on camera. When I worked for the government, we
were allowed to work fifty percent in the office and

(10:56):
fifty percent from home for the most part. In some cases,
if you work there, like I think over ten years
or something, you could actually work from home three days
a week work from the office two days a week.
I use the word work very loosely. One employee spend

(11:17):
his time remote working running his own farm. Another employee
bragged about drunk driving and going out to lunch with
her friends from Margarita's. When she was supposed to be
remote working. No one would log into their computers and
you can see it because they're not on teams and
no one ever checked.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Ever.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
There's something called the eighty twenty rule, where eighty percent
of the work in government is done by twenty percent
of the people, and this is very very true. People
who get a job in the government a lot of
times find out that it's very difficult to fire them,
and they take.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Advantage of this. One employee would come into the office.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
His start time would be six thirty, and he knew
nobody would be there, And when I came in at
seven thirty and I was the next person to come in,
he was snoring at his desk every single morning. Another
employee would take the government truck on an almost daily
basis so.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
That he could go out to lunch.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
And then go and take a nap in his favorite
park under a shady tree in the government truck. One
of the very first things I did when I started
working for the CORE, I spent three months cleaning up
their real estate files room, which was a disaster. The
government is using an antiquated system that was developed sometime

(12:45):
in the nineties and using regulations that haven't been updated
since the nineties.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
See, it's not just the actions of the employees themselves,
it's the system's environment in which they work. Antiquated cobalt ms,
DOSS systems come on a file system based on the nineties.

(13:11):
Do the calculations and think about modern filing systems today.
You see, it's not just what they do, it's also
that you kind of actually encourage it, you kind of
actually cause it to happen. Because if well, if you

(13:33):
work in a crappy environment and you've got, you know,
crappy equipment to work with, your product's probably going to
be crappy.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
To manage our dams and our government lands. Our government
is filled with the most incompetent and most lazy people
and an occasional hard worker, and those hard workers are
severely punished every time they outwork their colleagues, because then

(14:03):
the colleagues realize, people will see that they're lazy and
they don't want to have to work more.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
They're just buying time until they retire. In almost every case.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
My point is some of our government organizations haven't been
maintained or updated in so long that you basically need
to create a new organization and start from.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
Scratch being go.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
I could not agree more with that. That's going to
take a lot more effort on the part of this
administration than just DOGE. And I say that only because, look,
I'm not trying to diminish the work that Doge is doing.
I'm just saying that they're just scratching the surface. They're

(14:50):
just they're kind of opening the scab a little bit
so that we can see just how, you know, how
bad the infection is. To clean up the infection is
going to take an awful lot of antibiotics, maybe even
some intravenous antibiotics. But you're gonna have to do something,
and that's gonna be the next phase. Now, we've got

(15:13):
to get to the next phase to do that. And
when you consider the absolute hue and cry and the
and the it's it's amazing to me if you if
you thought over the years that my use of the
term cabal was a little kind of over the top,

(15:34):
like Michael's not really that bad. That all you've got
to do is, you know, I recommend you not do
this daily because it'll destroy your brain cells. But you
really ought to just spend a day watching MSNBC. You
really should just spend a day watching CNN. You really should.

(15:54):
You know, maybe just get a free trial of the
Washington Post and read through it, read every story and
pay attention to the language, and you'll realize that we've
created this monster and to destroy it, to reform it,
it is going to take a lot more effort than

(16:15):
what we are doing right now. It's not to detegrate
the effort taking place right now. I'm just looking around
the corner and telling you we still got a long ways.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
To go because there's almost no way to transfer it
over and there's so much red tape in between. It'll
never get done. But I know that our government is
inefficient because the people working for it are not doing
what they need to do to take care of the
rest of us. So no, I don't think government employees

(16:46):
should get the benefit of working from home. If our
government is not working for us, we shouldn't have to
take years to do anything in a technological age. They
choose to take that long, that's a choice. So they
can choose to do things faster and more efficiently, and
then they can choose to get remote work back I

(17:07):
don't feel bad for them at.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
All, and neither do I just call the real world.
We're just exposing them to the real world. We're right
over the target. Michael.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
We need dose on a state level. When is that
going to happen?

Speaker 2 (17:29):
We need those at all levels, not just state. We
need federal, state, and local, because everything that we are
describing and discovering at the federal level is just as
true at state and local level. Now, the magnitude may
not be the same, but the same type of activity

(17:52):
and the same type or lack of activity occurs at
state level. And it's a local I would say, even
you know, you get into a place like Denver's probably
the same thing too when you go look at an
ORG chart sometime in the city and County of Denver
and you realize just how bloated that bureaucracy is. And

(18:13):
then at the state level in Colorado, at least, we've
had the news that the Department of Revenue has Now
I've not seen any news lately, but as of one
day last week, it was all over the news that
the Department of Revenue was not ready to accept tax
returns yet. Now, as I said, does many difference to
me because I never get mine in before April fifteenth anyway,

(18:35):
because I got to wait on certain you know, K
one forms one K forms to come in. So I
you know, I'm don't main difference to me. But for
many people, they want to file their returns as quickly
as possible and get that stupid refund, and you can't
do it because you weren't able to upload the forms.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
You.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
I think everybody knew that January one was coming about,
and that tax day would be April fifteen, and that
people would start I think I forget what the date is.
But companies, employers are required to provide your W two's
by a certain date. But yet the College of Department
of Revenue now couldn't get her done in time. Couldn't

(19:19):
get her done in time? Now is that a personnel issue?
Is that a technological issue? Or is it a combination
of both. Now, this problem that that corp of Engineer
employee was pointing out in the last segment, I wanted
to use first, but I also wanted to go to

(19:40):
the Department of Defense, because you know that Trump fired
General C. Q. Brown Junior, the Chairman of the Joint
Chiefs of Staff, to replace him with Lieutenant General Dan
raising Kane, which I think is a great choice. By
the way, been retired for a while. Yeah, so what

(20:02):
doesn't mean the difference to me. But I found a
speech that General Brown gave. I don't think I've got
the date on this, but it was back during the
George Floyd riots. And what he refers to is the
tragic death of George Floyd. You tell me, after listening

(20:27):
to this, that the one individual.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
That all of.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
That, all of the forces looked to for their leadership.
I know, you've got the Secretary of the Army, you got,
the Secretary of the Nave, you got, you got all
these you know, d D secretaries. But the Commander of
the Joint Chiefs is once again, that insider, that is

(20:56):
the commander, that is the coordinator, is the CEO of
oh if you will, of the Pentagon. Listen to this, angoes, Lo,
here we go.

Speaker 6 (21:14):
As the commander of Pacific Air Forces, a senior leader
in our Air Force, and an African American. Many of
you may be wondering what I'm thinking about the current
events surrounding the tragic death of George Floyd.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
Here's what I'm thinking about.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
You know, before he goes even any further the tragic
death of George Floyd. You mean the drug dealing, the
drug ingesting, the giant obese drug user that we now
know based upon new evidence, which I hope UH acquits

(21:54):
Darren Shaven of those convictions. That guy, Yeah, that guy. Oh,
and he's serious. He's got his mean general look in
his face.

Speaker 6 (22:05):
I'm thinking about how full I am with emotion, not
just for George Floyd, but the many African Americans that
have suffered the same fate as George Floyd. I'm thinking
about protests in my country tis the sweet land of liberty,
the equality expressed in our Decoration of Independence and the
Constitution that I've sworn my adult life to support and defend.

(22:27):
I'm thinking about a history of racial issues and my
own experiences that didn't always sing of liberty and equality.
I'm thinking about living in two worlds, each with their
own perspective and views. I'm thinking about my sister and
I being the only African Americans in our entire elementary
school and trying to fit in. I'm thinking about then
going to a high school where roughly half the students

(22:49):
were African.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
American and trying to fit in.

Speaker 6 (22:54):
I'm thinking about my Air Force career, where I was
often the only African American in my squadron as a
senior officer, the only African American in the room.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Now, let's just remember too that I'm not saying that
none of these things happened to him, but let's look
at where he ended up the Chairman of the Joint
Chiefs of Staff. So, despite all these horrible things you
say about this country, you, sir, rose to be the

(23:26):
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Yep, you see
everything through the eyes of racism.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
I'm thinking about wearing the same flight suit with the
same wings on my chest as my peers, and they
mean questioned by another military member, are you a pilot?

Speaker 5 (23:44):
I'm thinking about how.

Speaker 6 (23:45):
I sometimes felt my comments were proceeded to represent the
African American perspective when it's just my perspective informed by
being African American. I'm thinking about some of the instents
of comments made without awareness by others. I'm thinking about
being and captain at the Oak Club with my squadron
and being told by other African Americans that I wasn't

(24:05):
black enough since I was spending more time with my
squadron than with them. I'm thinking about my mentors and
how rarely I had a mintor if that looked like me.
I'm thinking about the sound advice that has led to
my success, and even so most of my mentors cannot
relate to my.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
Experience as an African American.

Speaker 6 (24:25):
I'm thinking about the pressure that I felt the beform
error free, especially for supervisors I perceive had expected less
from me as an African American. I think about having
to represent by working twice as hard to prove their
expectations and perceptions of African Americans were invalid. I'm thinking
about the airmin that have lived through similar experiences and
feelings as mine, or who wore either consciously or unconsciously

(24:49):
unfairly treated. Conversely, I'm thinking about the ermin who don't
have a life similar to mine and don't have to
navigate through two worlds. I'm thinking about how these airmen
few racism, whether they don't see it as a prompt
since it doesn't happen to them, or whether they're empathetic.
I'm thinking about our two sons. Now we have to
prepare them to live in two worlds. I'm thinking about

(25:13):
the frank and emotional conversation my wife and I've had
with them just this past week as we discussed the
situations that have led to the.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
Protests around our country.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Now, remember these protests that he's all wrapped around the
axle about were violent, I know, the mostly peaceful, crap, violent,
destructive protests, and he thinks it's appropriate for him to
take time out to record this video so that he

(25:45):
can say to the forces that he commands as the
head of the Commander of the Pacific Air Forces, that
you need to be thinking about racism falling.

Speaker 6 (25:56):
I'm thinking about my historic nomination to be the first
African American to serve as the Air Force Chief of Staff.
I'm thinking about the African Americans and went before me
to make this opportunity possible.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
I'm so confused by this because apparently he believes that
America is a horrible, horrific, racist place, Yet he keeps
going back to reference all of the people that made
it possible for him to be able to succeed like
he has. Are you trying to patronize people? Is that

(26:30):
what you're doing here.

Speaker 6 (26:32):
I'm thinking about the immense expectations that come with this
historic nomination, particularly through the lens of current events playing
our nation. I'm thinking about how I may have fallen
short in my career, and we'll like to continue falling
short living up to all those expectations.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
I'm thinking about how.

Speaker 6 (26:50):
My nomination provides some hope but also comes with a
heavy burden. I can't fix centuries of racism in our
country broken. I fix decade the discrimination may have impacted
members of our air force. I'm thinking about how I
can make improvements personally, professionally and institutionally to that all

(27:11):
erring both to day tomorrow appreciate the value of diversity
and conserving the environment where they can reach their full potential.
I think I don't have all the answers on how
to create such an environment, whether here in PACTAFF or
across our air force. I'm thinking about without Clarkin answers,
I just want to have the wisdom and knowledge to
lead during difficult times like these. I want them wisdom

(27:34):
and knowledge to lead, participate in, and listen to necessary
conversations on racism, diversity and inclusion. I want them wisdom
and knowledge to lead those willing to take committed and
sustain action to make our air force better.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Better, or more diverse, equitable and inclusive. That's General Brown
giving activist speech at the height of the Black Lives
Matter movement in uniform and released on an official Department

(28:08):
of Defense platform. He clearly wants to lead as a
political activist instead of an apolitical military leader. So it's
not just in the civilian side of the federal workforce.
You've got the same DEEI bullcrap that has got to

(28:29):
be excised by surgical skill out of the military. I
know of no other place other than the military. And look,
are there pickets in the military? Gosh, I got shocking
news for you. There probably are. But if there's one

(28:50):
place where uniformity, where teamwork, where everyone and everyone that
I've ever known in the military has never talked like this,
never talked like this. They didn't see the person to
their left or to their right as they were standing

(29:13):
at attention in at roll call worried about the color
of the skin of somebody next to them. They weren't
worried about diversity, equity, or inclusion. They were focused on meritocracy.
Can I be the best in fact, can I beat
the guy next to me? Can I be better than him?

(29:36):
So he's out, and I say good.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
They can't wait to see Doge focus their sites on
the USPS.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
I wonder how we can make that more efficient. Oh
wait until you hear the squealing when he goes after USPS.
Because I know we I had a lot of postal
workers listening to this program quick. Oh my gosh, we'll
we gets.

Speaker 7 (30:06):
Try and make it as quick as I can. I
worked for the Martino Show as well on occasion, and
we had we had they had a postal worker call
in and try and be a whistleblower, saying that it
was very inhumane of the Postal Service now requiring them
to wear a timed monitoring pager first to how long

(30:32):
that it takes them to do their job. She was very,
very upset by this because she could no longer just
right down on her time guard. Yeah, I showed a
bit nine, I left it five. No, no, no, They
had to physically wear a tracking device.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
This was this a carrier or somebody working inside a buildings.

Speaker 7 (30:52):
Carrier, carrier, yeah, letter carrier. She was very upset because
you'll sometimes it takes me longer to do my job.
Sometimes it takes me less. I just averages it out
when I normally just write down my page and now
they're actually monitoring us. Do you believe it?

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah? She was.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
She was very upset.

Speaker 7 (31:11):
She thought she was a whistleblower.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Well why why? Oh you know, So, I'm beginning to
think that it's inhumane for iHeart to require me to
adhere to this clock, because I mean, we've got two
minutes to go until we get to the top of
the hour break. I'd really like to go stretch my
legs and take a whiz right now. So why do
I why? Why do I care about the clock? Why?

(31:34):
Why can't I just get up and walk out? It's
it's in humane treatment. I agree. I I see the
lawsuits to come in right now. They made me. I
peed my pants sitting here because I couldn't get up.
Get the grief, think about and then think about the
trucks that have my speed as monitored by GPS or something.

(31:58):
You know. So I so sorry that I'm only driving
sixty five and the sixty five zone, but guess what
I'm being monitored. Well that's not fair because now he's
got to tap his brakes going down hill because he
might exceed, you know, sixty five miles an hour. Yeah,
Oh my gosh, the inhumanity of that, or just the
Amazon driver that you know, when it's a crappy day. Yeah,

(32:21):
and there's a lot of snow, probably takes longer to
deliver packages. And so now you normally finish your route
by six pm and your delivering packages at eight pm
because your job is to do what deliver the packages
in the back of your truck. Well, with that, I'll

(32:42):
do that. I'll pick up on this one on the
other side of the clock. But listen to Senator Lisa Murkowski, who,
by the way, has her position because of her father
and the dumba lastmans that keep electing her man.

Speaker 8 (32:55):
The executive basically blows by Congress, rolls right over Congress,
and we allow that we're seeding our responsibility. I believe that.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Let's just stop right there. So when we allow the
executive to just roll over, what is our authority was?
I'd like to know what she thinks her authority is.
Then we're just ceding power to the executive. Well, let's
just assume that what she says is correct for a moment. Well,
then why didn't you do something earlier? You could have

(33:33):
done something, I mean, you've been in office for at
least I know you just got re elected, so you've
been in office for at least six years, but I
think twelve years maybe longer. You've you've had two terms
to do something, and you haven't done. You haven't done.
Feces given this squad, But is what they're doing really

(33:55):
running rough shot over legislative authority by simply trying to
streamline the workforce. Justice Glia said something about that in
a dissenting opinion that I want to tell you very
briefly about that's coming up next
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