3-4-25 - 6am - Europe is Funding Both Sides of the War

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yesterday, Jake Tapper, of all people, admitted that Europeans are
funding both sides of the war, that the amount that
they're standing on Russian oil and gas is more than
what they're providing for Ukraine. Boy, wouldn't it have been
nice if someone had pointed this out in twenty eighteen?

(00:20):
Oh wait, Donald J. Trump did point this out and
was laughed at that europe was funding both sides of
the war. Really sad, Jake Tapper, Well.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Once again, Alexa has managed to read my mind?

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Ain't nobody want to be in there?

Speaker 4 (00:40):
Well?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Do you like? Do you do you and missus Redbeard
ever go to like the during Halloween the haunted houses?
Oh yeah, of course, Okay, then you'd love you'd love
being inside there. Do you ever go like on a
roller coaster? Oh? Yeah, I look at Yeah, then you
love being inside there. Do you ever go to the
corn mazes?

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah? Then you love being inside there?

Speaker 5 (01:00):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Do you do you ever sometimes look at you? Do
you open like a junk drawer and go I place?
You clean that out? Then you love being inside there?

Speaker 6 (01:10):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah. So don't don't give me.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
This crap about nobody ain't nobody want to be in there.
You've just admitted to like a half dozen things. They
would love you that you would love to get inside
this brain and look around if But.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
That's just what it looks like.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
The feeling of being in there, that's well, that's the
feeling you go to the stupid haunted house for to
be scared.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
Different kind of ick like we were talking about with
the movie Misery, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
You know the kind of ike you know, I'm gonna
be to be really cross here for a second. The
kind of ike that you and I are talking about
is you and I finding ourselves both like walking into
the men shower downstairs at the same time, both button naked, pleased,
we've been working out or something, and we oh scares,
doesn't we run away?

Speaker 5 (01:57):
Only because we know who showered down there?

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Well?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
True, And I feel that way every morning when I
look in the mirror getting dressed too. So if I
feel that way, I know you're gonna feel that way.
Where's your shirt? Say?

Speaker 3 (02:09):
First World Problems.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
It's a scene from the first to Mario Brothers game.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Oh okay, yeah, I missed the old Mario's games rentals
fun yep, Oh, I'd like to have one of those again, No,
I don't send me one. Don't do not send me one.
So you know, as I I think I've told you guys, See,
I I conflate the weekend program in the weekday program.
Have I talked here about the mutual friend that tamer

(02:36):
and I have on Facebook that I mistakenly engaged with.
Why are you asking me? I don't listen to you,
but yes, yes, you have not your liberal friend that yes, yes, yeah,
and he's not really he's the older brother of the
actual friend.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
It was a family of like, I don't know, six kids,
and he was like, I think he may have been
the oldest. So I knew of him, but I wouldn't
actually call him friend. But you know, but now on
Facebook we're all the closest and dearest friends.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Ever, Yes, I.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
No skin because I was just curious. You know how
you can't resist. So I was just curious if he
had said anything else since we had last have our encounter,
and I went back on and oh my god, what
a mistake.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I I just told him I was done for the
second time. I'm done.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
But it fascinates me how people cannot let this whole
thing go. Now here's where I want to go today,
and we'll start with you know, in fact, let's just
do this since Alexa mentioned it, let's go to Jake Tapper.

Speaker 7 (03:43):
That Europeans were actually buying more Russian oil and gas
than they were helping Ukraine in terms of the aid,
so that in some ways the Europeans are are funding
both sides in this war.

Speaker 8 (03:58):
Germany will become totally dependent on Russian energy.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
By the way, this is obviously it's Donald Trump, but
this is twenty eighteen when Trump spoke before the United
Nations and told Germany that they would rue the day
that they started buying natural gas from Germany, I mean
from the Russians instead of from the United States.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
At the same time they started shutting down all their
nuclear plants right now.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
And the Germans literally sat in the United Nations, you know,
their big auditorium, and laughed at him.

Speaker 8 (04:36):
If it does not immediately change course here in the
Western Hemisphere, we are committed to maintaining our independence from
the encroachment of expandionist foreign powers.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Well, I have to say, I think it's very said.
When Germany makes a ascid of oil and gas deal
with Russia, where you're supposed to be guarding against Russia.
And Germany goes out and pays billions and billions of
dollars a year to Russia. So we're protecting Germany, We're
protecting France, We're protecting all of these countries. And then

(05:16):
numerous of the countries go out and make a pipeline
deal with Russia where they're paying billions of dollars into
the coffers of Russia.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
So we're supposed to protect you.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Against Russia, but they're paying billions of dollars to Russia.
And I think that's very inappropriate. And the former Chancellor
of Germany is the end of the pipeline company that's
applying the gas is ultimately Germany will have almost seventy
percent of their country controlled by Russia with natural gas.

(05:46):
So you tell me is that appropriate. I mean, we
might be complaining about this from the time I got it.
You should have never been allowed to have happened. But
Germany is totally controlled by Russia because they will get
it from sixty to seventy of their energy from Russia
and a new pipeline. And you tell me if that's appropriate,
because I think it's not. And I think it's a

(06:07):
very bad thing by NATA, and I don't think it.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Should have happened. Now, if you look at it.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Germany is a captive of Russia because they supplied, They
get rid of their cold lets, they got rid of
their nuclears. They're getting so much of the oil and
gas from Russians. I think it's something that NATO has
to look at. I think it's very inappropriate. You and
I agree that it's inappropriate.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
No, this is too. That was twenty eighteen.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
That was seven years ago when Trump, you know, everybody's all,
oh my gosh, oh my gosh, Trump is just that
He's saying the quiet part out loud, and everybody's going
but listic over it. Now you can, much like I do.
There are there are certain habits or mannerisms of Trump

(06:54):
that I don't like. But in terms of policy decisions,
what why are people so triggered by all of this?
Why are people so wrapped around the axle about this?
He spoke the truth bluntly in twenty eighteen, and then

(07:14):
we get to today and Jake.

Speaker 7 (07:16):
Tapper's Europeans were actually buying more Russian oil and gas
than they were helping Ukraine in terms of the aid,
so that in some ways the Europeans are funding both
sides in this war.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Oh, in some way, no, No, in not. In some ways,
in a very direct way, they're doing so so despite
a whole range of sanctions and the threat posed by
dependence on Russian energy. In the third year of Russia's
invasion of Ukraine, EU imports of Russian fossil fuels in

(07:51):
particular remain largely.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Unchanged, totally.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
A Euro twenty one one point nine billion dollar investment
in Russia, a six percent year on year drop in value,
but merely a one percent year on year.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Drop in volumes.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Now notably, EU imports of Russian fossil fuels in the
third year of the invasion surpassed the euro eighteen point
seven billion dollars of financial aid that they sent to
Ukraine in twenty twenty four. Russia's total global fossil fuel
earnings in the third year of this invasion also reached

(08:33):
two hundred and forty two billion dollars and have totaled
eight hundred and forty seven billion euros since the start
of the invasion in Ukraine in twenty twenty two, eight
hundred and forty seven billion dollars worth of purchases of
Russian gas. Now a member of the European Parliament the
EU Commission, Rasa Djukutvidis says this Thames are not just

(08:59):
a policy tool, they are strategic necessity. Now's the time
to keep calm and carry on stealing from Winston Churchill,
holding firm against pressure to lift the sanctions. Easing sanctions
prematurely would only strengthen authoritarian regimes and undermine the very
principles we seek to uphold. Persistence is key to real impact.

(09:24):
What the hell have the sanctions done. They haven't done
a damn thing. As far as I can tell you know.
Russia's stronghold over new markets solidified in this third year
of this invasion. The three biggest buyers of Russian fossil
fuels China seventy eight billion euros, India forty nine europe

(09:51):
euros and Turkey at thirty four billion euros. Those three
alone were responsible for seventy four percent of russia Total
revenues from fossil fuels in the third year of the invasion.
The value of India and Turkeys, by the way, Turkey
is a member of NATO, saw a year on year
increase of eight percent and six percent, so India and

(10:12):
Turkey that their imports have continued. So in the third
year of the invasion, Russia's shadow vessels continue to re
route embargled oil to other countries, both sanctioned sanctioning countries
and non sanctioning countries. Five hundred and fifty eight Russian
shadow tankers transported one hundred and sixty seven million tons,

(10:36):
or sixty one percent of its total seaborn exports valued
at eighty three billion euros. That kind of shadow fleet
handled seventy eight percent of Russian's seaborn crewde oil shipments
worth about fifty seven year fifty seven billion euros, and

(10:58):
thirty seven percent of their refined products valued at twenty
six billion euros. Which leads me to this question, and
it gets back to the friend on Facebook who let
me pull up what he said. He tags me specifically

(11:21):
in this post, and the post has a screen shot
of Jen Pisaki member Jen the little redheaded girl. Remember
Jen Pasaki and how she was a part of the
whole cover up. She was the State Department spokesman at
the time the whole cover up for the Maiden Revolution,

(11:43):
The color revolution in Ukraine sponsored by Victoria Newland and
USAID and the CIA in the United States trying to
get rid of a duly elected president. He has a
screenshot of her on her little program on MSNBC in
which he is stating from the Kiev Post, a propaganda

(12:05):
newspaper owned by the Kiev government and sponsored and paid
for by American sacked players through USAID, in which he
says Trump's foreign policy largely coincides with our vision, says
a Kremlin spokesperson, whoever this Kremlin spokesperson is, and the

(12:27):
cairn in the screenshop says more fallout after Trump berates Zelensky.
So here's the question I'm asked on Facebook, how do
you feel now, Michael D.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Brown?

Speaker 2 (12:40):
You called my posts warning against Trump's authoritarian agenda ignorant?
How do you feel now that he's got your country
setting on the Russian side of the table. Isn't this
Russian a friend of yours? By the way, if you
voted for Trump and his deceiting Republicans, then you're responsible
and culpable, but you're also redeemable. Well, thank you so much, Dwayne.

(13:01):
Move over to the American side of the table. Wow,
so I'm on the Russian side of the table, just
like uh, Donald Trump is a what I say yesterday,
a Putin, a Putin puppet, a puppet Putin or whatever
whatever the hell was I DYSLEXI spat out of my mouth.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
So I want to know.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Where the receipts. Can someone show me? I'm dead serious.
I want to know. I want I want u r ls,
I want links, I want screenshots, I want whatever you
can provide me wherever you are. I don't care where
you're listening, I don't care. Send it to me Michael
Brown adiheartmedia dot com or the text line three three

(13:42):
one zero three keyword Mike or Michael, or you can
do it on on on x at Michael Brown USA.
I went the receipts of where we have sided with
the Russians. M hmm, all wait, I got I've got
four hours. I got plenty of time. I can wait.

(14:03):
I'm so sick of this when we're sitting here and
the very allies I should probably put in air quotes.
Allies are sitting here supporting the war effort because the
Russian economy, which is in the crapper, could not be

(14:23):
surviving but for the purchase of these LNG natural gas
and oil exports behind our backs while we're throwing money
at what I don't know what. Actually, that's another question
I'd like to ask, where's the money going? As you know,
one of the things that we did during the Afghanistan War.

(14:47):
In fact, the guy happened to be a friend of mine,
we put in to Cobble. He went back and forth
Queen DC and Cobble all the time. A special Inspector
General whose sole job was to try crack all of
the dollars that we sent over there, and one of
his first reports was that I'm having a hard time
even finding a way to track the dollars, let alone

(15:08):
find the dollars that we're sending into Afghanistan. So we
have a pretty good history in this country of just
throwing money at stuff and having no ethan clue where
it's going, or what it's doing or what it's accomplishing.
But let's go back to this whole idea that Vladimir
that somehow we have and that I have jumped to
the side of Russia. Boy, that really pisses me off.

(15:30):
I can't tell you how much it pisses me off.
If you know if we're on the side of Russia
by simply telling Vladimir Voltimore Zelensky that, hey, listen, bucko,
we have what we believe is the beginnings of a

(15:50):
security agreement by letting us invest with you. Remember there's
a sound bite Trump Trump said, we're not trying to
take over your country. We're not trying. We're just trying
to have a business deal. Because if we have a
business deal, then we have a vested interest. And if
we have a vested interest, that means we've got business
boots on the ground. We've got American miners, and we

(16:13):
got technicians, and we've got business people, and we're doing business.
And if we've got American citizens on the ground, then
Russia is going to think twice because as they, as
we know, from a four year period between two well
actually an eight year period longer than that that we
know between twenty fourteen, well after twenty fourteen, after Trump
takes office in twenty seventeen, and then in twenty twenty two,

(16:38):
that Vladimir Putin didn't do anything because he was in
the White House. Donald Trump, Now, in some twisted minds,
people are going to tell me, well, Vladimir Putin didn't
do anything because well, he's got a pet puppet in
the White House, so he doesn't need to do anything.
What kind of twisted logic is that. I mean, that's

(16:59):
like saying, oh, well, we've got Dwight Eisenhower, the former
d Day General in the White House, and so, uh,
they put the Cuban missile crisis off until Kennedy came in.
Really that it makes no sense whatsoever. It's it's historical ignorance,
is what it is, Absolutely historical ignorance. So despite all

(17:20):
these sanctions we have going on, Uh, Europe behind our
back has been buying billions of dollars of euros worth
of LNG natural gas and oil from the Rooskies. And
yet somehow Donald Trump is the one that's on the
side of the Russians.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Hmm. So I my.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Whole response was, look, you're irredeemable, and I told you
I wouldn't engage with you. But citing a Russian spokesperson
as evidence of collusion with Russia is beyond parody. It's truly,
it really does show the ignorance of I think, what's
happening to the America. You have you, not not you,

(18:04):
but some other user out there have been totally duped
by the American media. Because I got some questions that
I want to ask. I don't have the answers for them,
because well, I want you to answer these questions.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Good morning from South Dakota. I heard that on Friday,
Christy Noman and Tom Holman were able to deport their
first Ukrainian. Have you heard anything about that? Everyone, have
a great day.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
I've not heard anything about that. Funny here, here are
some questions that have been rolling around in that di
cookeat'le brain of mine. Well, this is for anybody, but

(19:15):
in particular for those who would claim that if you
support Trump's efforts to try to bring Vladimir Putin to
the table to try to get Russia to at least
sit down and negotiate an end to the war, if

(19:37):
you are opposed to that, and you think that that
is some sign or indication that Trump is taking a
side of Russia. For example, there is right now Reuters
has this headline, Ukraine says it will do all it
can to maintain US ties after Trump pauses aid. Ukraine

(20:01):
said on Tuesday that would be today it would do
all it can to maintain its ties with the United
States after President Donald Trump paused military aid to Kiev
in the most dramatic state step yet in his pivot
towards closer ties with Russia. What how is that a

(20:25):
closer tie to Russia? And how is that different than
In the third year of the invasion, Russia earned two
hundred and forty two billion euros from global fossil fuel exports,
a three percent year on your drop, but one hundred
and four billion from crude oil, seventy five billion from

(20:46):
oil products, forty billion from gas, and twenty three billion
from coal. Despite a host of sanctions, Russian revenues in
the third year have dropped by a mere eight percent
compared to the year prior to the invasion of the Ukraine.
Since the invasion, Russia has earned and estimated eight hundred
and forty seven billion euros from fossil fuel exports. And

(21:08):
it goes on to point out exactly how much the
European Union has been paying for those Despite Trump's warning
in twenty eighteen that if you start doing that, you're
going to rue the day that you did. Europe has
made itself dependent upon Russia.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
How are we how are we.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Pivoting toward closer ties with Russia. That's the first question.
How are we pivoting toward a closer tie with Russia
when we have everything, I mean, Scott Descent, Marco Rubio,
We've got whether you agree with them or not. You've
got a bipartisan group of senators and congressmen who are

(21:49):
always trapesing over to Kiev. You've got Zelensky going to
all these EU countries. Zelensky's coming to this country. We've
got all these negotiations going back for Scott was sent
the Treasury Secretary and Rubio have both presented the mineral deal.
We're doing everything we can to try to get this

(22:10):
guy to recognize that we've got to bring an end
to the war, and yet he keeps refusing. So all
we do is we have one we have one meeting
in the Middle East on neutral ground where we can
have a discussion with not with Putin, but with LAZARV
and the Foreign Minister and a couple of other people.

(22:33):
And somehow that's where we're we're pivoting toward Russia because
we had one meeting. Biden had zero meetings. Biden made
no effort at all to end the war. In fact,
As I've said a bazillion times on this program, what
Biden did was just give a blank check, no strategy,

(22:54):
no mission statement, nothing, just whatever it takes, for as
long as it takes. That's the very definition of an
endless war. That's the very definition of another Afghanistan, another Vietnam,
another Iraq, whichever example you want to use, it's another
example of that. And this country has moved on from
I said, We're not going to do that anymore.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Now, what.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Would you have us do? When I say us the
United States? Do you want boots on the ground? Do
you want American soldiers in Ukraine? Because I see that
as the only option. If you're if you're unhappy with
the level of armaments, munitions, everything that we're providing to Ukraine,

(23:44):
if you don't think that's enough, and if you think
that we're somehow pivoting to Russia, and if you also
believe that we ought to support Ukraine, and what do
you want? I'm genuinely curious from anybody, miss audience, what
do you want? What's your option? What's your recommendation? I

(24:16):
literally tossed in turn last night thinking about this. Have
you considered the fact that you know whether it was Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam,
whether it was the initial invasion. And I'm not talking
about twenty twenty two, I'm talking about twenty fourteen, the

(24:40):
invasion of Crimea, or I'm talking about the Russian Georgian War,
or how about the genocide that Ukraine was imposing or
inflicting on its own people in the Bombat in the
Dambas region, when those Russian speaking that ethnic group of

(25:06):
Russians in that eastern part of Ukraine was basically saying, look,
we either want independence or we we want we want
independence or we want to join Russia because that's where ethnic, cultural,
all of our economic ties, everything are to Russia and
not to Ukraine. And instead they just start bombing.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
The crap out of them.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Trying to obliterate them from the face of the earth.
So my question is, considering all of those things, where
is CNN. Where's Christian on a poor you know, the
British accented you know women from CNN that's always in
the war zone, always reporting, you know, about what's going on.

(25:51):
You know, if you ever watch CNN Europe or any
of the European outlets of CNN, she's always on the
front lines. Where the war correspondence from Fox News, CNN, MSNBC,
the networks for that matter, Reiters, the Associated Press, the

(26:12):
Washington Post of New York Times.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Where are they?

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Why are they not over there showing us what's going on?
Why don't we see the war of attrition? Hill's bells,
I've got more. I can find more photographs and more
correspondence reporting about the trench warfare from World War One.
Prior to digital cameras and instantaneous transmission, when you had to,
you know, take black and white film and then, you know,

(26:38):
keep it in your pocket and hope you get someplace
or get a courier to get it someplace so it
could be developed and eventually make its way to the
United States and eventually make its way into the New
York Times. No today, Boom, you can just transmit it
from right there. As long as you got Wi Fi somewhere,
you can just transmit the images right back to New York.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Why don't we see the trench warfare? They know?

Speaker 2 (27:00):
What are they not wanting us to see? If you
thought about that, what do they not want us to see?
Maybe they don't want us to see exactly what Donald
Trump keeps referring to where's the casualty count? Where's the
count about how many people are being killed Russians or Ukrainians.

(27:22):
I don't care either one or both. Why don't we
have daily reports like that like made on Vietnam? During
Vietnam when we had every night Walter Cronkit reporting them
the number of American and Americans killed and injured and
the American number of American or viet.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Cong killed and injured. Is that what you want?

Speaker 2 (27:44):
I mean, I really do, I really do want the
media to step up. But what does the media cover instead? Oh,
they cover wall to wall everything that occurred on Friday
at the Oval Office. I'm much more interested in Americans
seeing what's going on in a warfare where it's trench

(28:08):
warfare and drones just blowing to smithereens people on both
sides of that trench line, day in and day out.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
You know.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Jd. Vance, the Vice President, obliquely referred to the problem
with manpower and the conscripts. Now, I've seen on X
the videos and I've taken them with a grain of salt.
But I have seen the videos of ostensibly Ukrainian soldiers
snatching people off the streets, to conscript them, to draft them,

(28:42):
if you will, and to send them to the front lines.
Where's the one place that I have seen reporting about
the Korean soldiers the North Koreans has been an exclusive
in the Wall Street Journal who interviewed two captured North

(29:04):
Korean soldiers found barely alive. Had been left on the
field because they had been instructed that do not allow
yourselves to be captured. You will kill yourself before you
allow yourself to be captured. Well, these two were wounded
so badly they couldn't they couldn't even kill themselves. And

(29:25):
so eventually Ukrainians found them and took them back, and
they've hospitalized them and they're letting them recover, and they
and South Korea is indicated that they will allow them
to defect and come to the South Korea if they
want to. But other than that Wall Street Journal, I mean,
where the video, where's the video? Where's the drone footage?

(29:47):
Show us, show us the carnage that's going on. And
since they won't, ask yourself, why why could it be
that the cabal doesn't want to see the carnage that
Donald Trump keeps referring to, because to do so would
repulse us, and we would suddenly be on, oh, the

(30:10):
side of the guy that keeps telling us how bad
this is. Well, what if ooh, what if we found
out that gee, it seems that we already know how
bad it is, only in the sense that polling shows
that Americans are beginning to turn the tide, and Americans

(30:34):
are beginning to look at what's going on and realize that.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Oh, this is pretty bad. I'll give you those numbers.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Next.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Someone put together the age brackets versus CNN viewership and
Trump approval rating. In the age bracket eighteen to thirty nine,
viewership is ten percent. Trump approval rating is over sixty percent.

(31:06):
A little bit opposite of that. As the CNN viewership increases,
Trump approval rating decreases.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Interesting he and his.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Latest poll, It appears that the Americans may kind of
be done with Ukraine's war.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
I give you.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
CNN, Holy Toledo. Look at this trend line here. US
support for Ukraine is too much. Back when the war began,
back in February of twenty twenty two, it was just
seven percent up like a rocket ship, my goodness. Up
now in February of twenty twenty five, to forty one percent,
and the clear majority of Republicans, and of course Republicans

(31:44):
are in charge of the US government. Now sixty two
percent of Republicans say that the US support for Ukraine
is too much. What a difference from just three years ago.
I can remember, John, all those backyards in the United
States with there's Ukrainian flags, Far few of them today,
as Americans opinion on Ukraine have changed dramatical.

Speaker 6 (32:02):
What about opinions of the Ukrainian president?

Speaker 4 (32:04):
Right?

Speaker 5 (32:04):
You know, obviously, if you would expect changes amongst the
public feelings towards Ukraine, feelings towards Zelensky have changed also dramatically.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Look at this.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
Confidence Zelenski will do the right thing when it comes
to world affairs. Back in twenty twenty two, it was
the clear majority seventy two percent.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Through the floor, through the floor.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
By twenty twenty four, just forty eight percent of Americans
say that they're confident that Zelenski will do the right
thing when it comes to world affairs. And GOP confidence
has also plummeted dramatically. Now the clear majority of Republicans
are not confident, not confident that Zelenski will do the
right thing. When it comes to world affairs, really a
real trend line ones you rarely see in the American

(32:46):
public when it comes to Ukraine and Zelensky, confidence in
both going down.

Speaker 6 (32:50):
Through the CrOx and allies of President Trump have targeted
Zelenski with horror criticism over the last few years, and
he could be that that's having absolutely.

Speaker 5 (32:59):
The Republican establishment. The Republican electorate has moved as the
Republican establishment and Republican.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Leaders have moved on.

Speaker 6 (33:05):
All right, let's talk about the idea of a peace deal.
And again, the way you ask this matters, but go
the way you.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
Ask it is important, so we can talk about this
a little bit. So the pole question essentially is do
you support a Russia Ukraine negotiated peace deal? The vast
majority of Americans this is what they want. Seventy eight
percent say that they support this idea versus just sixteen
percent of post. Of course, as we were talking about,
does this question actually get.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
At what's going on right now?

Speaker 5 (33:31):
I think you would say that it probably does not
necessarily get what's going out right now.

Speaker 6 (33:35):
No, the question asked, do you support a Russia Ukraine
negotiate a peace deal?

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Ukraine's not there at.

Speaker 6 (33:41):
The negotiations in Saudi Arabia this week, so the people
were not asked this.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
And I do think in.

Speaker 6 (33:46):
General, if you ask anyone in any poll do you
support peace, peace tends to rate pretty highly.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Peace tends to win.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
You rarely get seventy eight percent of the country agreeing
on anything. They do agree on the idea of a
negotiated peace deal between Russian Ukraine. Whether the majority would
agree on a Russia piece here with Ukraine where Ukraine
has nothing to do with it, that might be a
different question.

Speaker 6 (34:07):
Hard to know, Harriet, and thank you, thank you much.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
Now.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Now contained in that little spiel at the end is
a complete ignorance of what was going on in the
Middle East at the time, and that was just some
basic contreaties to Russia. Hey, can we have a meeting
to see if you'd like to enter into negotiations? And

(34:31):
if which I do support. I support the idea that
you reach out to the Russians, something that no one
has done since the beginning since since for that matter
of twenty fourteen. And you say, hey, listen, would you
like to discuss this? Can we discuss it? Well, of

(34:52):
course you would. Why wouldn't you support that? And you
do that initially without Zelensky, without Ukraine, because you have
to first find out is there any common grant? Is
there any way to bring the two of them to
the table. We've already been doing that with Zelenski, and
we saw that worked out last Friday in the Oval office,

(35:13):
So you do it with Russia separately too. So you've got,
for example, two lawyers representing a couple in a divorce.
You don't bring the two spouses together to negotiate the
divorce settlement until the lawyers have sat down and they've said, look, here's.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Where my client stands, and here's where my client stands,
and you.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
See whether or not there is any reason, Is there
any room for negotiation and for a divorce settlement? And
if there's not, if one lawyer says, my client just
is adamant about x y Z and the other lawyer says, well,
they're never going to agree to x y Z, then
you go back to your respective corners and you talked about, hey, listen,

(36:00):
they're not going to give them this, so what are
we willing to do? And you do that a couple
of times before you bring them together that's exactly what
Trump's doing, and by supporting that, suddenly you're a Trump
stooge or you're a Trump puppet for doing that. That
really shows ignorance of how world affairs are conducted, a

(36:21):
true ignorance,