4-16-25 - 8am - Ryan Schuiling in for Michael - Race War and Running for Governer

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I gotta say, it just seems like they really want
to raise four in this country. With what's happening in
Texas with Carmelo and the house he's buying and the
lower bonds.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Said and all that.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
I'm not advocating for it, really, I'm just concerned. It's
a little scary and I kind of wonder what might
happen this summer.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Who knows a valid question? And Ryan schuling with you
filling in. We are now halfway through this Wednesday edition.
We're smack dab in the middle of the week and
I'm trying to get you through. I'm gonna get you
one day or at least one morning closer to that weekend.
That's my mission, that's my goal here. We're halfway there.
Just happy enough. It's Michael's not here, so makes it

(00:40):
even better. As a dragon is chowing on his factor
meal over there. Now, you're not a paid spokesperson, but
you do personally subscribe to their service. Correct, Yeah, so
that's an endorsement, right like you you give your money. Yes,
they send you their food. Correct. Is that a good deal?
It beats eating out for sure, because if missus Redbeard
and I go out to eat we're spending what we
would for an entire weeks of meals through Factor spending that.

(01:03):
But then also if you're kind of watching your calories
or how food is prepared, portion sizes, you're getting what
you know, what you're getting with that. That's good. Okay,
So take it from Dragon Redbeard, an unpaid just personal
endorsement as a consumer for the Factor meals. Correct, Okay,
very good. I've gotten some emails from them, and I

(01:25):
had like a trial, a trial run with them, and
you know, I liked it. I don't know if I
wanted to keep paying for it now. You're right, though,
I mean, I prepare my own food, but that takes work,
and you're at work all day, and Dragon works kind
of odd hours compared to the average human, and you
just want something you can throw on the micro with.
Are you comparing yourself for the average human. I'm comparing
you to the average human. You're better than average, You're

(01:49):
at least to be minus. But I want to go
back to the talkbackers. Is that what they call him
around here? His point a race war in America. I
don't know about the race part. Certainly they use that
as a cudgel to their political advantage, and they've tried
two for years and it's a cheap play. It's cheap heat,

(02:10):
as they call it in pro wrestling. Republicans are racist.
They're gonna put you all back in chains. I mean,
Joe Biden trafficked in this crap. And there was nobody
who was more kind of rubbing elbows wink nod to
racist segregationists in the Senate than Joe Biden himself. He
uses the term boy a lot when he's speaking to

(02:31):
or about black men.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
This is a guy.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
I get it. He grew up in a different era,
but the time is now. You could have evolved from that.
He really didn't. This is the one that said you
finally have like a nice, clean, articulate black candidate in
Barack Obama, which I always took as a bit of
three America.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Here he was articulate, in bright and clean, ice looking guy.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
You know who ran for president in nineteen eighty four,
nineteen eighty eight, Reverend Jesse Jackson. What does that say
about Jesse Jackson? To me, it was always like a
personal slight against him. There's an Eddie Murphy sketch from
around that era which he's a genius Jesse Jackson had
identified New York City with a pejorative pertaining to Jews,

(03:25):
and they sang a song about it. I'm not comfortable
with the term. It's an ethnic slur, but Jesse Jackson
used it, and then Eddie Murphy lampooned it on Saturday Live.
I'm sorry to all the New Yorkers, but there's always
been this kind of not so closeted racism within Joe
Biden himself. And really, when you think about the Democratic Party,

(03:49):
what Rush Limbaugh espoused for many years, and he was
absolutely correct, And the Democrats are doing this now in
the form of illegals in this country. Why do they
want them here so badly? It shouldn't have any thing
to do with raise. It should have to do with
your immigration status and whether or not you come here legally,
and that's it. And Democrats used to sound and think
this way. I know this because Hillary Clinton told us

(04:11):
so during the two thousand and eight campaign. Listen to
I guess present day Republican Hillary Clinton talking about illegal immigration.
I think we got to have.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
Tough conditions, tell people to come out of the shadows
if they've committed a crime, deport them, no questions asked.
They're gone if they if they've been working, and our
law abiding we should say, here are the conditions for
you staying. You have to pay a stiff fine because
you came here illegally. You have to pay back taxes,

(04:40):
and you have to try to learn English, and you
have to wait.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
In line reachist bitch. I mean, word for word, that's
pretty much my personal policy on this, and I say
it from a standpoint much like Greg Lopez. We will
hear from at some point this program. A portion of
that conversation, at least that I had. Mine was the
first interview with him after he declared his candidacy for governor.

(05:08):
Greg is the son of legal immigrants who came to
this country, were migrant workers part of that time in
my home state of Michigan. And this is the whole
racist trope which the Democrats don't even know that they're doing,
or they don't care whether it's Promila, Jaya Paul or
Jasmine Crockett. But who shall pick our crops if not

(05:29):
for the illegal laborers? Sounds a lot like the Southerners
anti Bellum South slavery era of well, I mean, who's
gonna pick our cotton and our crops if not for
the slaves. Americans don't want to do those dirty jobs.
They don't want to look after your kids and serve
as a nanny or a housekeeper. They don't want to

(05:49):
be janitors or construction workers. And that is beneath the
average American, don't you know. And you look at the
lawns and I'll never get over this Martha's Vineyard, all
these phony Bologney liberals who have the yard signs in

(06:09):
this house, no human is illegal. But they don't want
them in that house because when Governor Ron DeSantis sent
busloads of them there, because hey, you're the one of
the sanctuary policies. Apparently you welcome this, Apparently you want this,
Apparently you encourage this, you embrace this. They didn't last
those poor migrants forty eight hours on Martha's Vineyard before

(06:32):
they were put back on a bus and sent over
to Cape cod because oh, no, no, no, no, oh, you
must be mistaken. I put that lawn sign out so
that you know the criminal element won't attack our house
because we're sensitive. As long as it's somebody else's problem.
I don't want them to hear I mean not in
my not unlessarily the help. Are they the help? These

(06:53):
people are not real. They're not they're certainly not authentic.
They're not genuine. They don't care. They don't care. These
are votes, that's it. They're imported, permanent underclass of democratic
dependent voters. That's what Mike Johnston is doing in Denver.
That's what Governor Polis is enabling in Colorado. That's why
we were declared a sanctuary city in Denver. Why we

(07:15):
were declared a sanctuary state in Colorado had nothing to
do with compassion, had to do with political power and clout.
And the plot twist in this entire matter is many
people who enter this country who then become American citizens,
let's say they do so the legal way, that are
truly escaping tyranny in the form of communist dictatorship and
oppression Venezuela, Cuba, etc. They become wait for it, Republican

(07:41):
voters Trump supporters. Oops, talking about you all time. Backfires. Yeah,
not exactly going according a plan. But you have to
explain this change of heart. And I say that very
lightly and in parenthetical quotes. Why would we go from
Hillary Clinton having that stance on illegal immigration, which the

(08:04):
old Democratic Party, the pro labor, pro union, pro worker
party of the Upper Midwest, the rust Belt, the UAW.
They didn't want illegals coming into this country taking under
the table cash wage jobs, not being on the books
paying taxes, because that undermine the rights of unionized workers,

(08:24):
that undermine the value of their work. That took away
jobs that should be going to Americans. That was the
old Democratic Party. That's gone. That's gone to the broader
point that the talkbacker makes Pache Keenan, who I've interviewed
while filling in over on KOA. You can follow her
at Keenan Peach k ee n An peche. Just like

(08:46):
it sounds peachy, she's great, but she's right on this
point and it's blunt. But if it's true, truth hurts.
She posts the following, The Democrats top four hereros in
America are now one. A murderer named Luigi will get
to sound from that in a moment. That is Luigi Mangioni,

(09:08):
who murdered the United Healthcare CEO in cold blood open
murder on the street. And yet we have Bill Burr,
comedian shouting free Luigi during an interview. We have Jimmy
Kimmel making jokes about him on late night television. We
have the likes of Taylor Lorenz expressing undevoted, unrequited love

(09:34):
and admiration and a crush on this psychopathic murderer. He's
become a hero to the left because he took down
the man. I guess that's point one point two. A
murderer named Carmelo. That's Carmelo Anthony, not the former Denver nugget.
Got to make sure I clear that up. This is
Carmelo with a K, not the same person who stabbed

(09:56):
a young man in the heart with a knife. But
then there was a go fund me online that I
think has since been shut down to the credit of
GoFundMe itself, but that at one point had drawn more
money for the murderer than for the victim of that murder.
That is who the Left is championing right now. Another is,

(10:17):
as PG Keenan puts at point three and MS thirteen,
illegal gang member. This is the one where don't surrender
the premise, don't acknowledge the premise, don't grant the premise
to the left when they try to make it of
this poor Maryland man right there. That's the beginning of
the lie. He's not a Maryland man. He's an El
Salvadoran native national resident citizen who is illegally in this

(10:43):
country living in Maryland. He's not a Maryland man. He's
not a legal citizen of the United States. He does
not have legal status in the United States. And we
have democratic lawmakers that like the Senator from Maryland, who
are making these publicity stunts to go down to El
Salvador and demand this man's release. But the simple point

(11:06):
in fact of the matter is he committed a crime
simply by entering this country illegally. He broke our immigration laws.
He did not respect the immigration process and laws of
the United States. Therefore, game over, go back to the
back of the line. Pal. This is where again I
diverged so strongly with Dan Kaplis. And there are some

(11:26):
others who are like, hey, you know, we were lucky
to be born in the United States, and I would
have given anything born in another country to be an
American citizen. Well that's great, but yeah, I was lucky
I was born here. My mom was not. My mom
came here as a two year old in nineteen fifty
with her parents, my grandparents, with her mom. They entered

(11:48):
this country legally. They went through a process which they
were granted asylum by President Harry S. Truman from the
communist dictatorship that was Yugoslavia under Tito. They respected America's laws, customs,
They adapted and assimilated to American culture. They learned the
English language, They got a job here, They had a
sponsor who vouched for them here, they had a background check,

(12:10):
were vetted before they were allowed to come here. They
went through the process. My grandparents were American citizens. They
became Americans. That has to mean something. And you'll find
whether you're talking to somebody like myself or Greg Lopez
or Cuban American immigrants who came to this country legally,
or those Mexican Americans and others who are right here

(12:31):
in Colorado, those are the ones that feel most strongly
about this issue because they did it the right way.
And everybody's got a sob story for why they should
go to the head of the line. Everybody's got this
tale of woe, like oh WHOA. Anybody coming here under
duress is going to have that story. But you don't
get to come here. It's not like buying a ticket

(12:53):
to Disneyland. And even then in this case, to carry
forward that metaphor, they're sneaking into Disneyland. They're not even
buying a ticket. You don't have a right to be here.
You can be granted a privilege of being here. You
could be provided with legal immigration status that allows you
to apply for citizenship to be but there's a process here,

(13:15):
and if it's not respected, if a person comes into
this country does not follow those laws, what other laws
are they going to have any incentive to follow? So
to me, the argument stops right there. Wait, wait, are
you here in the country illegally? By thanks for playing.
You rolled the dice, it came up snake eyes, you lost.
That's it. But they're trying to turn this so called

(13:39):
Maryland man into some kind of folk hero. But he
was deported El Salvador. That was his country of origin.
That is the only country for which he holds citizenship
ship status. Therefore that's where he went. Best of luck
to you. And then finally this Palestinian Hamas supporter. So
you got those four that are kind of front and

(13:59):
see these touch point heroes for the Democrats on the left.
Talking about Mahmood Khalil, he led some of these pro hamas,
anti Semitic, anti Zionist, anti Jewish demonstrations on campus Columbia University.
We saw it at UCLA, We saw it at Harvard.

(14:20):
We saw the hearings where Elis Stephonic House representative was
confronting these university presidents, and they were soft peddling anti
Semitism because they want to give some kind of credence, credibility, recognition,
validation to these pro Hamas from the river to the sea,
Palestine must be free under the guise of anti Zionism,

(14:41):
which literally translated means anti Israel, anti Israel's right to exist.
They wanted to boycott, divest, and sanction any kind of
university interactions with the country of Israel. They were intimidating
Jewish students on campus, asking them, confronting them, are you

(15:02):
a Zionist? Do you support Israel? Or are you one
of the good Jews? Will let you go if you're
one of the good Jews, obstructing their paths to class,
intimidating students from attending those classes, trying to chill them,
their speech, their presence on that campus. That is a
violation of the American civil rights Act, and yet Harvard

(15:23):
supports this mood. Khalil can be deported. A judge has ruled,
and he should be. If you're here as a guest
on a visa, a student visa, you are here at
the behest of the American government. You have been granted
a privilege. It is not a right. You don't have
a right to be here. If you're a foreign national,

(15:44):
not a citizen of this country. You're here as a guest,
but you would best be served and behaving yourself as
a guest. You don't walk into somebody's home and start
trashing the place and telling them what to do and
how to keep their own home. You don't do that,
or you're gonna be asked to leave. That's it. There
you go. So, yeah, the Democrats are really picking very

(16:08):
strange political hills to die on, as it were. And
that would be another one. Let's see more texts here.
You can send those in three three, one zero three.
Alexa hates the propaganda from ABC News at the top
of the hour. I hear it in parts a lot
of times, like Dragon and I are coming in and
out of the studio. He went to get his meal.

(16:28):
I want to get some ice coffee, so specific examples,
I'll be happy to rebut them if they make some
political points, which I know that they do. I think
a sane person can win in Colorado as long as
he has a D next to his name. I think
that's still a thing, or maybe a deep sleeper agent. Well, yeah,
Democrat automatically has a built in advantage. The unaffiliateds who

(16:50):
reside and vote in this state lean overwhelmingly toward the Democrats.
So how do we make inroads as a party as
Republicans with the disaffect unaffiliateds out there? That is a
question that bears asking and certainly bears answering, and it's
one that I approached with Greg Lopez in a conversation
you'll hear a little bit of in the coming segments ahead.

(17:14):
One of those, though, I have to believe, is one
that resonated in Virginia, which is you are trampling on
the rights of parents to make decisions for their own kids.
That transcends party. There have to be elements, I would
think in Jeffco Public schools who are watching what is happening.
There a deepening controversy that even nine News is covering.

(17:34):
With the grooming and sexual abuse of myriad students by faculty,
staff teachers. It is an epidemic in jeff Co. It
came to a boiling point in Columbine High School where
a young girl had been groomed from the age of
fifteen during her sophomore year in a social studies class
by a teacher who would later be exiled from teaching

(17:57):
at Columbine High School, but was never fired. Her license
was removed volunteerily resigned of her own accord, but no
action was taken, despite the fact that that student has
since moved in with that grooming teacher in California and
there is little that the mother can do about it,
and she was a special guest in studio with Dan
kaplis not that long ago. More of your texts when

(18:19):
you come back three three one zero three, Ryan Schuling
filling in. You're listening to the situation, sans Michael Brown.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
Hey Sholing, Hey man, I think this is Ryan from
Estas Park. I think you're a total badass, bro. I
love hearing your voice this morning subbing for Michael Brown.
I loved your show at two pm every day.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
I'm the guy who called you and talked to.

Speaker 6 (18:43):
You about having your wedding up here at the Stanley
Hotel in esthes You guys got to consider that. It's
a great venue anyway.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Man, love hearing you all right, from one Ryan to another. Yeah,
I need to bring that up with Kelsey. We have
a venue picked. I think she likes it. That's not
to say we couldn't have some other kind of gathering
event right there at the Stanley. Were they filming something

(19:11):
there recently? I know they do that from time to time,
not recently. Some scary stuff, but I like it. I
embrace it. I walk into it. You face your fears
head on. And that movie scared the crap out of
me when I was a youngster. I think I was
about the same age as Danny, right, that was the
little kid right, all the twins in the Halloway Man,

(19:36):
Oh no, I don't want to. Yeah, I just remember
he's watching Roadrunner cartoons too, with the Roadrunner theme song.
I remember all that. Never quite had the bowl cut
that he had, though, But yeah, Ryan, thanks for that reminder.
I'm gonna text Kelsey during the next break about that.
This from Susan my you can text us as well

(20:00):
throughout the program three three one zero three and don't
forget those talkbacks like you just heard Red Button, iHeart
app do it. Colorado has gone insane enough that he
might just have a chance if he brings people in
on the ridiculous issues. There's definitely a lot to be against.
I think that, combined with a genuine and amazing positive
vision for the future of our state, might do the trick. Honestly,

(20:21):
I think any Republican would have to go that route,
to be firmly against the insanity while offering a positive alternative.
As you know, Republicans do not have an easy go
in politics in the state. Susan, You're right. If you're
talking about Dan Kaplis, here's how I would approach it.
He can't, then he shouldn't change his personal stance, which
is very strongly felt and principled and dates back to

(20:43):
his youth, his formative years, his earliest memories. His own
mom was a champion for the pro life movement in Chicago,
right at the beginning of when that was a thing.
Is not to back away from that. You can articulate
that point the way I would say it. My stance
is different than Dan's. I am pro life, with the

(21:06):
exceptions I don't feel comfortable going as far as to
say it should be banned or illegal. I do think
they're extenuating circumstances, but that any abortion performed should be
done as early as possible, and we should have as
few as possible and present as many alternatives to young
women who are having unexpected or problem pregnancies that they

(21:26):
can't afford. If that's the lone barrier, we cannot go
the route. In my view of House Speaker Julie McClusky,
who basically viewed it as a ledger sheet and that
abortions are a way to save money, that's your stance
on abortion. That's hideous, that's ghoulish. You have to keep
the focus on the extremes on this issue, and that's

(21:50):
on the left side of this right now, the late
term abortion matter. That is an eighty twenty issue in
the United States. For me, the way I would approach this,
let's say, in a debate, would say, yes, I'm personally
pro life, but the voters of Colorado at this moment
in time and history have spoken with Amendment seventy nine,
it was codified into the state constitution. I will respect

(22:10):
the state, the law of the state However, as governor,
I cannot abide being a state sanctuary for this procedure
for those who are out of state. I mean I would,
I would have a very clearly defined stance on this,
but you don't want to dwell on it. To Susan's point,
because this is an issue Democrats field, they went on,
and this is a way for them to avoid talking

(22:31):
about the issues that are truly achilles heels for them,
meaning immigration, transing the kids. You know, stick focus on
those issues that are that are winning issues that win
the middle, while standing true to your principles on those
issues with maybe you disagree, but you can appeal to
voters and say we're not going to agree on every issue,

(22:51):
and that's okay, and we could save those discussions and
arguments for another time. But Colorado's in trouble right now
and we need somebody that's going to address the issues
and problems we are facing right now. And I am
the person to do that. And here's why and here's
how I will do it. And the Democrats have gotten
by by assuming your vote and taking it for granted
for too long and doing all kinds of damage to

(23:13):
this state, to our Second Amendment rights that every individual
in this state, regardless of your party affiliation, You have
a right to keep in bear arms. You have a
right as a parent to decide the future and the
medical treatment for your children until they reach the age
of eighteen. I mean, have it really like ready, bullet
point fashion boom boom boom and hit the Democrats time

(23:34):
and again over the head with those issues on which
they are losers, and they are losing on those issues.
I just stated that if you're here illegally, we will
cooperate with ICE, we will no longer be a sanctuary
state or city in Denver and obstruct ICE's efforts to
deport criminal, illegal aliens that have terrorized Aurora. I would

(23:57):
bring with me. This is just me, but if it
were Dan or anybodybody else, Cindy Romero on the campaign
trail like she did for Donald Trump when he appeared
here in Aurora, and make sure that people know her story,
because not everybody does. Those of you in this listening audience,
you are high information voters. You arm yourselves with your
own information. You make your own decisions and draw your

(24:17):
own conclusions from what you watch and listen to. And
I would never state that you should just listen to
Michael Show or My show, or any conservative show and
just take us at face value and not do your
own research and not come to your own conclusions. My
confidence level is that we are on the right side
of so many of these issues that if they are

(24:39):
clearly articulated, people who make up their own minds are
going to draw those conclusions. The more information that a
person is armed with, in my view, the more likely
they are to vote Republican for conservative, populist, libertarian candidates.
The lower information voters that tend to just kind of
do what they're told, buy what they're sae old, take

(25:02):
what CNN, MSNBC, anybody on the left says, regurgitate talking points. Yeah,
those voters, those load to medium information voters, and they
still count those votes count just as much as a
high information voter. They can be more easily manipulated, diluted
into voting Democrat when they're not informed on the issues.
And the way that you do that is you reach

(25:22):
out to those people, You go where they are, and
Greg Lopez is articulated to me that that is what
he plans to do. You can't take the base for granted,
and you can't alienate them. For instance, we had somebody
suggest yesterday that maybe ken Buck should run for governor. Well,
this goes back to the CHRISTA. Kaefer theater is if
you alienate everybody who was part of your core, your base,

(25:44):
let's say Trump supporters, you know, conservatives written large, which
ken Buck did. Okay, Well, now you have basically spurned
those voters and they're not going to be as likely
to support you. And then on the other hand, you
pull the Joe Oday, I'm a modern abortion Okay, So
now you've given us a choice between Michael Bennett, who's
totally pro abortion, or yourself and you're just kind of

(26:06):
abortion light or Democrat light, and you don't really offer
a clear, direct alternative. And he lost. Anyway, who is
ken Buck going to appeal to on the left. They're
not going to vote for him. So in the middle,
do you win that ground? And how do you win
that ground? And how do you hold on to that?
The trick to winning an election in Colorado if you

(26:27):
are a Republican statewide, and it's not easy. The threading
this needle is not easy. You have to do two things.
You have to motivate and animate the Republican base in
this state, and that starts with Britta Horn and the
entire state apparatus finally coming together and being on the
same page and pulling in the same direction. And we
have not had that. We have not had that in Colorado.

(26:50):
You cannot alienate the base. You have to make sure
that they feel like they're represented. On the other hand,
you have to build a broader tent. You have to
bring people into the party, make them feel included, make
the feel like they belong. And those are traditional unaffiliated
who may have never marked down a Republican on their

(27:10):
ballot before. But how do you reach that person? Those people?
You listen to them first of all, and you have
to make yourself visible to them. It's a lot harder
because the mainstream media in this state is automatically like
public radio or the mainstream over the air television networks.
They are going to give Democrats a platform and oxygen

(27:31):
to put their message out there and not get a
lot of pushback like a Michael Bennett. I mean, Michael Bennett,
we got to go to break with this. He went
on Friendly CNN with Friendly host Caitlin Collins, and he
stumbled over a question that this should have been a
slam dunk easy answer, but he just couldn't get there.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
You would not accept donations from billionaires going forward?

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Well, I.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Have.

Speaker 7 (28:00):
I'm one of the very few uh members of the
Senate who does not accept corporate pack money. For example,
I don't accept I don't, so I'm not I if
you're asking about independent expenditures of billionaires, I haven't thought
that through because I'm not in a position to.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Be able to make a judgment about that.

Speaker 7 (28:23):
I'm not sure I'm missing your misunderstanding your question.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
I think, UH, are you if you're misunderstanding that question,
Senator about it? I got a lot of other questions
about what you might be misunderstanding. So two part homework
assignment for me, I'm gonna help dragging out. I'm going
to edit for content for profanity the official Counselor Mackie
song from South Park, so there's no swear words in
it and he can use it along with well you

(28:48):
just heard O good. And then also, I think this
would be far more effective what you just heard if
I literally typed out a transcript of what Michael Bennett
just tried to say, I don't and then I don't.
But then a billionaire George Soros Eli Musk, what in

(29:11):
the world this is the best the Democrats have got
because it ain't filling on the Wiser. But he's the
other biggest name in this race on the Democratic side.
At least for now, I think Attorney General Wiser will
be tapping out of this race. I'm calling that man.
It won't be too far in the future that he

(29:31):
concedes and bows out to Michael Bennett and he's going
to be the nominee. He's going to be the presumptive
favorite favorite to be the next governor of the state. Now,
how do you feel about that? You does like Rob
dasould ask him questions a break, We're back more of
your text you can send those along. Ryan Schuling filling
in thirty three to one oh three on the situation

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with Michael.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Brown, Ryan, I really like your impressions. Please do more,
and I request more. Jesse Jackson, please damn with dope,
up with hope.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
You know what I'm saying. Rainbow Push coalition. I just
I remember it so. I was a young guy when
he first ran for president in nineteen eighty four, and
there he was on a debate stage. Walter Mondale would
end up getting the nomination, but Jesse was the first

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major candidate who was African American for the presidency. And
I just think it was it was really slanderous that
Joe Biden to say, finally, you know, this bright, articulate,
clean black candidate comes along in this barackobam first sort
of Amazeman American.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
It was articulate and bright and clean, and my looking guy.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
The first one. And obviously Jesse Jackson did not qualify
according to Joe Biden. Not I'm no big fan of
Jesse Jackson, but he is an important historic figure. He
was in the inner circle with doctor Martin Luther King.
He was there with him in Memphis the day he
was assassinated. If you'll recall he was a young man
at the time. And like I said, he's an important

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political figure of the twentieth century. He hasn't been so
visible now that he's gotten to his elder years. During
the twenty first century, well, we need to keep hope alive.
And yeah, he had a certain kind of cadence and
delivery to his speech. He is one of those I
make this point constantly because I think I'm in a
unique position having lived this life and witnessed the public

(31:42):
figure that is Donald Trump for the last forty odd
years from when I was a little boy till right now.
And I'm telling you this, Donald Trump has not changed.
I'll say this time and again. Donald Trump now is
the guy he's always been. His dance on trade with
these tariffs shouldn't surprise anybody. These were the policy positions

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that he was espousing when he would be on Oprah
Winfrey like every other week. He Donald Trump was one
of Oprah Winfrey's favorite guests. She beamed and she glowed
and she gushed whenever Donald Trump was on her show.
You could see it in her face. She loved Donald Trump.
And what did she do last summer at the DNC

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She spoke of Donald Trump like he was this evil dictator. No, no, sorry, Oprah,
you knew him, you loved him. He was the exact
same guy back then. The only difference is he did
not entered politics, and he didn't enter as a Republican,
which I think shocked a lot of people. I think
there were those like Oprah that were encouraging Donald Trump
to run, who assumed that he would be kind of

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a center left Democrat and maybe at some point he
might have been considered that he did support Democrats. He
donated to the Clintons, they were his friends. There's visual
evidence of this. Jesse Jackson. Al Sharpton presented him with
like keys to the city and awards for supporting the
Rainbow Push coalition. He broke them big checks. So al

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Sharpton always cracks me up when he goes on MSNBC
starts railing against her. No, no, buddy, we know who
you are. This is the same Donald Trump. You can't
hide from it, you can't run from it. We know,
we remember. I don't have amnesia. That's what kills me
about these people. Joe Scarborough, Mika Brazinski, they were chummy

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and buddy buddy with Trump. That was more recently, that
was in twenty fifteen going into the primary, because they
thought he was a joke, because they thought, well, if
Donald Trump wins, that means Hillary Clinton will win the election.
So they gave him all kinds of free airtime, earned
media as they call it, because they didn't take his

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candidacy seriously. And quite frankly, I thought he was fun
and funny, and he is. He's good to have on
the air. Howard Stern. Another one would have him on
his show all the time talking about off color jokes
and stories. The whole Access Hollywood video thing was I
shocked and surprised when that came out. You know, not really,

(34:18):
not really, Donald Trump was Bruce Wayne, billionaire playboy. We
knew that he cheated on his wives. None of this
was breaking news. So when people act all righteously indignant,
including Howard Stern, including Jesse Jackson, including Al Sharpton, including
Oprah Winfrey, Mika Brazenski, Joe Scarborough, they're all phony, fraudulent fakes.

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They are only against Donald Trump now because he represents
a position that cannot be controlled. Nobody can buy him,
nobody can control him, and that scares the daylights out
of him.