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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Michael, You're exactly correct about making connections with people. I
work in an environment where there are a lot of.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Interesting folks that you just make connections.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
And for example, I met a guy who was a
Special Ops fighter during Vietnam and he ended up on
the cover of Life magazine. Another gentleman fled Communism from
the other side of the Iron Curtain and into up
in the Olympics doing downhill skiing. O.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I wish I had heard more about that. So what
he's referring to is so I was telling a telling
story in the last hour about going to pequots Uh
in Lincoln Park in Chicago and how I was. I
was able to And I don't even want to use
the word weasel in because I didn't. I didn't weasel
my way in. I just I walked in. I was,
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I was. I didn't lie about anything or exaggerate anything.
It was I just I just ended from Denver and
just you know, kind of looking at him like I
and acknowledging.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
The thing that most of us don't believe is that
you were nice, like I was saying.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
So anyway, you know why I was nice because I
was hungry and it was a challenge because the minute
the minute that uber pulled up, I realized what now. Fortunately,
the university was paying for all my Uber trips, so
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I didn't have to pay for that. But I was
still thinking, what a waste because I've got you know,
I've already got the guy and already tipped him to
take the bags to the hotel so that I can
go eat pizza. And I when I pull up, I
realized this is a fool's errand, and I immediately start
looking around in the neighborhood, at least in that.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Hey what for you started looking for something else?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah, I'm immediately looking for one of my options versus
getting in an Uber or getting on my phone and
trying to figure out, you know, googling good restaurants near.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Me kind of thing to find out where to eat.
It was.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
It was it was the I had been told that
was the place to go. I knew I wanted to
do one of two things. I wanted to have, you know,
Chicago dogs, or I wanted to I originally planned to
eat somewhere inside the Loop, as Anna would have, because
my fondest memory of Chicago is eating deep Dish pizza
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inside the Loop. But everybody had said, no, go to
Peaquots instead, So I'm like, okay, everybody saw me go
to Pequots, so I'll do that. But nobody had ever
explained to me, what, you know, the background of the restaurant,
so I wasn't expecting anything other than oh, it's just
it's going to be a dive. And so it's already
late in the evening, I shouldn't have any problem getting in,
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and when I stepped out, I'm immediately thinking to myself, well,
this is a mistake. But it became a challenge and
it was as much fun trying to get in to
see if I can make that happen as it was
obviously enjoying the pizza itself. But to the Talk Talkbacker's point,
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it was about just being honest with the guy. Hey,
I just landed from at O'Hare. I've you know, even
traffic even at that time of evening is bad, and
my uber is already gone and I'm here and I
recognize that you probably you know acknowledging that he probably
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can't do anything. So doing all of that is I think,
just trying to be relatable. I'm understanding that I am
putting you in an awkward position and oh, you know people.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
In Colorado too, Oh, well, we have something in common.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I was told, I emphasized several times I was told
to come here without fully understanding why I was told
to come here other than it's, you know, some of
the best deep vision in Chicago, and that's.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
If I could ever figure out the guy's name, since
I've obviously got the address of the address of the joint,
I'd write the guy a handwritten note and tell him
things because he went above and beyond the call of
duty to do something to accommodate somebody when he's got
people lined out the door, he's got people waiting out
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on the sidewalk that are waiting for hours to get
in there, and I just boom.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
It took me. I'm guessing.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
It took me fifteen to twenty minutes to get a seat,
which is about my maximum that I would wait in
a normal place. But and then I felt I got
over it very quickly. I felt guilty about all the
people waiting in line until I sat down and started eating.
So Tuesday was tax Day, and I, of course, as
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I have to do almost every year because of a
partnership that I'm in. I had to file an extension
because our k ones seem to always be late, or
they arrive on the day that you know they are.
They well, it's Tuesday fifteenth, there's your k one. So
and then also I had to file an extension for
my moms. I do my mom's taxes, which are very
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simple because all she has is my dad's retirement and
our Social Security, so hers are very simple. But I
couldn't get the forms from her. She couldn't find the forms.
Finally got finally got the forms this week, so I
filed two extensions. Actually I filed the extensions either Sunday
or Monday. But here we are. So now they've soaked
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up all this money from us. The tax industrial complex
has once again fleeced Americans. But I read something that
makes me legitimately wonder, could this be the last time
we ever have to pay federal income taxes? Maybe not
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all of us, but those of us that are in
a certain tax bracket or an income bracket. Could this
be the last time? Or are we on the way
to actually getting rid of the income tax now? One
of the major pillars of Trump's economic platform is the
abolition of income tax for.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Any American or for all Americans.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Probably a better way to say it that make less
than one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year. Now, truthfully,
that to me sounds like a fantasy. That sounds like
a campaign. It's it's it's like the student council promising,
you know, no more homework, or we're gonna have ice
cream every Friday kind of thing. If you le like me,
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I'll make sure that we have you know that we'll
have free vending machines in the high school. But if
Trump version two point zero has shown us anything, it's
his willingness to set into motion seemingly impossible plans. Now
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a couple of caveats, whether it's immigration or the tariffs,
or trying to upend the international trade relations, or it's
trying to isolate China, or it's trying to keep the
Uranians from getting the bomb, whatever it might be, there
there are. It's it's fits of stop and go, and
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some of them are gonna work out, and some of
them are not going.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
To work out.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
But you cannot, by any stretch of the imagination, say
he's not trying.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
He is certainly.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
We're approaching to see February, March April, we're approaching ninety days.
We're not even in one hundred days yet, and my gosh,
look what's going on. It's just wham bam, thank you
ma'am all the time.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
So there is.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
The Brookings Institute has their tax They have a tax
policy center. I often, in fact, it's in one of
my favorites in one of my browsers, because they often
have a lot of really good tax policy documents. But
if you go there, I think it's still online. Howard
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Glickman has a paper titled, we may be watching the
Death of Federal Income text. Let me tell you that again,
we may be watching the death of the federal income tax.
Now it may be like that relative that we we've
all encountered that is going through a very slow, painful death. Oh,
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we think Grandpa's going to die today. So we all
gather at the hospital and then Grandpa looks up and says, oh,
look everybody's here. I feel pretty good. I'm going to
go another day. And so everybody goes home and it's
lathers repeat over and over and over, and but but
you know that Graham's is eventually going to die. He's
in the hospital, the cant of metastasized.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Uh, and he is. He is going to expire at
some point.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
You know, damn well, it's going to be the crotchety
old ant that everybody hates.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
It's going to outlive us all just out of spite.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Well there's that too, But at some point the crotchety
old ant is still going to die. And I think
that maybe we are witnessing the eventual death of the
federal income tax. There. Look at the reality. I think
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that's a good place to start. You have staffing cuts
at the Internal Revenue Service, you have the tariff mania
going on right now, and there is a burgeoning and
unavoidable ideological movement away from taxing income that appears to be.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Slowly taking hold.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I think even the bought and sold people who do
liberal tax policy for a living are beginning to recognize that. Hey,
first look at and I don't want to go into
the precise status yet, but look at the number of
income earning households who, because of their level of income,
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don't pay any federal income tax or or and or
they still earn an income. But it's at a certain
level where they still get what's to call the earned
income tax credit, so they actually get paid on top
of what they're already making. And then you have why
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why do you think Texas and Florida are booming? I mean,
there's a lot, there's a lot of reasons, but what's
one reason why Texas and Florida are booming, or for
that matter, even Wyoming to some to some extent, they
have no state income tax. Now police continues to lie
to us about how he would like to get to
that point in Colorado. But I don't believe that. I
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don't believe that for a second. Uh, Mississippi should no
longer be the butt of jokes because they just got
rid of their own state income tax. Oklahoma is trying
to follow suit. So the number of tax free of
income tax free states has grown to the double digits. Now,
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people don't want the government taking money directly out of
their paychecks. We understand now the absolute fraud that is withholding,
and we also know and this this drives.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Me nuts, but people who over withhold.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Because they use it as a forced savings account, and
then they're all excited about getting a refund money that
you could have had throughout the year. But because you claim,
you know, to many exemptions or whatever you get or
not enough exemptions. However, it works you because I've got
mind calculated to be pretty precise. Former Congressman Louisiana Congressman
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Billy Long is a hard right winger whose advocating for
getting rid of the IRS's direct file system. Has supported
the Tax Code Termination Act, and speaks out all the
time about moving to a national sales tax and abolishing
the IRS entirely. I don't think you can abolish the
IRS entirely, because even if there's a national sales tax
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that is collected, probably by the states, I mean, it
would be collected just like it is now, except there
would be a federal line on your receipt that shows
a federal tax. Well, that still has to be collected,
and the obvious easiest way to do that would be
for the states to do it and remit that remitted
to the federal government, because I don't want to impose
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that burden on businesses. Businesses already have enough trouble remitting
their sales tax proceeds. So let's just make it, you know,
let's remit it to the state, and let's states remit it,
and I actually think that getting rid of the income
tax could happen without a struggle. I know it's enshrined
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in the sixteen the Member of the Constitution, but that
doesn't mean that it has to exist. It's like, do
I have to have the argument again about the postal services?
The post office is permitted by the Constitution. It's one
of the enumerated powers. Congress has the power to establish
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post offices. It doesn't say Congress shall establish post offices.
We'll say it's true with the income tax, and when
you think, I'm sure it's true with you too. But
I don't think there's an individual in my sphere of
influence that would not support they. We may disagree about
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what you replace, because look, we have to have revenue
to fund some of the basics of the federal government.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Right.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
We do need a US military. We do need I'm
trying to think what else would I argue that we
really do need the federal government to do we need?
We need the military. I suppose we need the Immigration
and Natural Well Ice CBP. We do need that. We
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don't need the TSA, we don't need. You don't really
need DHS. You don't really need THEMA for you want
to go down that route that I was going down
this week. You don't need that stuff. There's a lot
of stuff that we don't need. But everyone that I know,
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I think might argue about what we replace the income
tax with. But I don't think there's an individual at
all of my sphere of influence that if they had
the choice to go to something other than an income tax,
a consumption tax, even a value added tax, of a tax, uh,
some sort of other form of tax, they would be
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all in just get rid of the the horrendous idea
of taxing my labor. If this fantasy that might become
reality of no income tax had been in place for
my entire life, it would mean that I was never
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given the government a penny, not even in the rare
years when everything lined up in my favor money wise.
The only time that I would have given the government
any money is when I would have decided to give
the government some money by purchasing or leasing a new car,
or buying another pair of sneakers, or buying a new shirt,
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or buying what did I buy recently, Maybe an airplane ticket,
maybe we still have tickets on or taxes on airline tickets.
Think about the possibility of this happening. I would, And
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if you don't think it's possible, then I really encourage
you to go read the article. We may be watching
the death of the federal income tax, because if Trump
has shown anything, I think it's that he has learned
to have Okay, our goal is out there. We may
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have some immediate goals that we need to do right now,
like on immigration, Let's at least show think about with immigration,
at least show that we're willing to deport the worst
of the worst. And that establishes what establish as a baseline.
It shows that, oh, you can do this, and now
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we can as we start to get rid of the criminals,
then we can start working on just the illegal aliens
and we can start deporting them also. So I think
the same thing is true about the income tax. Here
today gone, maybe not tomorrow. But can you think of
another I keep hearing, Well, we look at everything. Is
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it an eighty twenty issue, a ninety ten issue, a
fifty to fifty issue, Well, if there was ever a
ninety ten issue, getting rid of withholding in the federal
income tax.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Boom, Michael, the law says an income tax can be
collected during an emergency. At the end of the emergency,
the income taxes must be solved.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
This is why we've been in emergency since nineteen seventeen.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
You you sound like one of those who believes that the
sixteenth Amendment was improperly adopted.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
That you stop it. You're going to get yourself in trouble.
It's it is what it is. It was adopted and
it's part of the Constitution. And there's nothing in the
sixteenth Amendment about an emergency. You you're you're reading you know, No.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I'm not going to go down that conspiratorial rattle. I'm
gonna go to what I wanted to go to. But
I just I caution you to step back. Step back
from the edge, Step back from the edge. Look if
if if I thought there now I'm gonna stop. I
can't stop it, Michael, stop it. One of the one
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of the things I did yesterday which shows that I
have no life, was that I read Judge Boseburg's final
order of criminal contempt citation against the Trump administration in
this case of Kilmar Abregio Garcia, the illegal alien who
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is based on the documents that I read yesterday. Is
a member of MS thirteen, I would question, can you
once you're a member of MS thirteen, can you ever
really leave? I don't think you can. And unless cops
were lying every single step of the way, and unless
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the immigration courts were supporting perjury in every step of
the way, the Trump administration is absolutely correct on this
and Joe Judge Bosberg has stepped way over the line
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in this case. But we'll get to that in a second.
Here's Press Secretary Lovett yesterday about this case.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
The Democrats and the media in this room have continued
and wrongly labeled Kilmar Abrego Garcia as a Maryland father.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Well, he is a father. He is a Maryland father.
But in the context they want you to take it
is well, he's just he's just a simple illegal alien
who is here improperly but is a good, upstanding citizen.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
And you know what, I would even allow.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
That write this, not not this moment, because he's somewhere
in El Salvador, but at the moment that he was arrested,
taken into custody and deported, taken to McCallan or wherever
they took him before taking him to El Salvador. He
may have just been a Maryland father, but he was
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so much more than that prior to that. And you
can't just because someone has suddenly turned over a new
leaf ignore every everything else in the past, because that
is an inherent part of who he is, including the
allegations of domestic violence.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
There is no Marilynd father. Let me reiterate.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Abrago Garcia is an illegal alien MS thirteen gang member,
yes and yes and foreign terrorists who was deported.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
And yes because of the designation of MS thirteen and
Trinda Arragua as foreign terrorist organizations.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
Back to his home country.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
And when Abrego Garcia was originally arrested, he was wearing
a sweatshirt with rolls of money covering the ears, mouth,
and eyes of presidents on various currency denominations. This is
a known MS thirteen gang symbol. Correct of here no evil,
speak no evil, see no.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Evil, absolutely correct.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Abrago Garcia was also arrested with two other well known
members of the vicious MS thirteen gang.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Correct, and two separate judges found that Abrego Garcia was
a member of.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
MS thirteen correct and that finding has never been disputed.
Correct and just this morning, it was revealed through Maryland's
court documents that Abragio Garcia's wife petitioned for an order
of protection against him.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Maybe correct. I can't say correct because I haven't seen
those documents.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
For two instances of domestic violence in May of twenty
twenty one, and here is the order right here. The
court ordered that the respondent committed the following acts of
abuse once in May of twenty twenty one, assault in
any degree, and on May fourth of twenty twenty one,
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he punched and scratched his wife, ripped off her shirt,
and grabbed and bruised her.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
This is from a court in Maryland.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
So not only are Democrats rushing to defend in legal criminal,
foreign terrorist gang member, but also an apparent woman beater.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
To set all of that.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Aside, the basic fact that he was a legally inside
our country and had a lawful deportation order made him subject.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Correct and made him subject to deportation to.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Removal back to his home country of El Salvador. And
if he ever ends up back in the United States,
he would immediately be deported again. Nothing will change the
fact that Abrago Garcia will never be a Maryland father.
He will never live in the United States of America again.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Now, what fascinates me about this entire story is how
the Democrats have This is the this is the battlefield
they want.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
To die on.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Supporting this guy. This is really where they are. I
understand that they really do have the mentality of whatever
Trump says or does, regardless of the merit, regardless of
the validity, regardless of the facts on the ground, They're
going to oppose it. I find that really astonishing. And
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not only is it astonishing, but in terms of how
they're reacting to it makes you wonder, is this the
best they can do.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Listen to Elizabeth Warren.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
Senator Elizabeth Warren with us, and I would like to
get that conversation going between you two, especially about the tariffs.
But first I would like to ask about these deportations.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
We were just.
Speaker 8 (25:37):
Watching the White House continue to double down on this
one specific case, mister Abrigo Garcia.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
They're not doubling down. She's presenting the facts. In addition
to Judge Bosberg's order that I read yesterday, I read
all of the documents, the police report, the removal orders,
and in fact I even read it was like a
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four or five page order from Immigration to Naturalization Services
about they've reviewed all of the evidence. They took his
requests for an administrative review of the findings. They did
so they found nothing. There was no evidence presented by
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him or his lawyers to counter any of the evidence
that Caroline Levitt just described in that press conference. There
was nothing, and so the removal order was upheld twice.
That's the hill the Democrats are going to die on.
Speaker 8 (26:49):
And to an extent, really trying to label him a terrorist,
but all the others are legally questionable as well.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Your thoughts, But the point is why are they doing this?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
And the answer is no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no no, why are they doing what what they're doing
is what they said they would do, and they're following
the law, and they're removing people who have removal orders,
who are members of now designated terrorist Organizations TRENDA, RAGA
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or MS thirteen, who have criminal backgrounds, who have received
their due process and are subject to removal. So before
Elizabeth Warren says another.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
Word, to an extent, really trying to label him a terrorist,
but all the others are legally questionable as well.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Your thoughts, But the point is why are they doing this.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
The reason they're doing it is because for decades, no
other president, Republican or Democrat, has had the cajones to
stand up and actually do what they said they would
do during the campaigns. So it's my old boss, George w.
Or it's Bill Clinton, or Hell's bells, going all the
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way back to even Ronald Reagan who got snookered in
terms of amnesty.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
And the answer is they want to have the American
people say it's okay to just disappear people.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I love this.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
This is how our I mean, this is she's literally
I mean, I know, she's crazy. I mean, I know.
The liberal mindset is. Liberalism is a disease, it's a
mental illness, and she's really inflicted with it. We're disappearing someone.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
No, the guy. Do you know what disappearing means?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
In communist China, when you're disappeared, you're suddenly gone, nowhere
to be found, no body, no remains, no fingerprints, nothing.
You have been obliterated from the face of the earth.
That's not true here. Mister Garcia is in a prison
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in Al Salvador. He was lawfully detained. He had already
received all of his due process. It's just that nobody
had picked him up and taken him out of the
and removed him from the country, like judges had ordered
him to be done. But to use the language that
he's been disappeared shows that one this really is. The
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Democrats don't have anything. They're shocked. I think they're literally
in shock that a president is doing what we've been
demanding the president's do for decades, and now that it's happening,
they don't have any retort to it other than well,
the American people are absolutely fine with citizens being disappeared.
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One he's not a citizen, and he wasn't disappeared.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
And somehow they say if they can make up lies
about him, that they can do whatever they want lies.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I read the documents. I looked at the documents, I
read them myself.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Then the answer will be the American people will settle
to this. We do not disappear people in the United States.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Well, she's right about that. We don't. We didn't with him,
and we dealt with other people.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
No, we still provide people with their Fourth Amendment procedural
and substantive new process rights.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
Because here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
If they can disappear to start a breakout Garcia, then
they can disappear you.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
And that's the hill they're going to die on. Let's
think about that next.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Wow, you got in without even having to drop the
undersecretary card.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Impressive personal relationships, developing a connection, that's all.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
You gotta do.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
And quite frankly, in Chicago, had I dropped the undersecretary card,
that probably would have gotten me booted out or shot.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
That's right, we're shot.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I know, I know my surroundings, so I behave based
upon my surroundings. Back to Elizabeth Warren, let's finish what
she had to say about disappearing and do.
Speaker 8 (31:16):
You want you want to know el who says that
Hillary Clinton who posted that this is real? She was
founding the alarm long before the election about his promises
that he is following through on. Before the election, I
warned that there is no safe haven under authoritarianism. Taking
ship kill mar Abrago Garcia to a form prison, a gulag.
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Really accused of no crime, with no trial, They can
do it to anyone. Americans have conscious must stand against this.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Now what you think about Hillary Clinton tweeted out, if
they can ship kill mar Abravo Garcia to a form prison,
accused of no crime, with no trial. They can do
it to anyone.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
That is not what happened.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
He got moved to his country. He's a member of
MS thirteen based out of Al Salvador. So when there's
a lawful removal order, you take them to their country.
We took him to his country. What did his country do?
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His country? Because they're jay leening members of MS thirteen
threem in prison.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
That was their decision, not ours.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Now do we know what was going to happen. Of
course we knew it was going to happen. But sucks
to be a member of MS thirteen in Al Salvador.
It's why Al Salvador has gone from one of the
most dangerous Central American countries to one of the most changed,
radically changed, and say for Central American countries, because the
President said, We're no longer going to tolerate MS thirteen.
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We're going to find you, arrest you, and put you
in prison.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
So they're they're.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Feeding a bag of BS lies to the American public.
This is the hill they're dying on. I find it
freaking hilarious.
Speaker 8 (33:07):
Now do you think this will break through?
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Senator?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
So I think it is breaking through.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
I think there are just places where Americans stay anausistics
when Chuck Grassley goes out to a town hall and
people are just saying the talent at law, wait a minute,
what's going on here? And now it's both halps. It's
about disappearing people, but it's also about a band court.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Orders, right, and uh, we followed a court order. There
was a court order in this. Now we'll get too,
We'll get to Judge Bozburg's citation of criminal contempt in
the next hour. But notice how they're framing the issue.
They're trying to frame the issue. This is just a
father of two perfectly, you know, innocent, never did anything
(33:55):
wrong except break into the country illegally and then stay
here despite a removal order and engaged in domestic violence.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
And that's disappearing.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
And by the way, when it comes to the Republican
town halls, I'm absolutely convinced that those town halls are
being disrupted by paid Democrat protest