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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Michael speaking about our illustrious government here in Colorado. I
want to know, I really want to know what Jared
Polis is doing with the pop money that's supposed to
go to roads and schools, and the lottery money which
is supposed to go to something good, but nothing is
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improved here.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
He is such a grift. Eh, Those states are grift.
I like the ith at the end. Yeah, that was
a very good chu.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
If I do recall correctly, the pot money was supposed
to go to school facilities, So all the new administrators
they hired probably have some nice new buildings or some
equipment and things, but not not for the kids, no,
but for the administrators. And as for the lottery money
that goes to parks, so all the new parks that
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we've gotten, they're maintaining updated.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Okay, that was a valiant effort. You really tried. I tried.
Totally failed, but you really tried.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
But I work with you.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yes, I've totally failed. Well, yes, but at least you
put in the effort, and that's all it really matters. H.
I'm not trying to be cruel, but David muirr ABC
World News tonight again they had an exclusive yesterday with
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the President pretty funny.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
We begin tonight with the ABC News exclusive today Mark's
President Trump's one hundredth day in office, and tonight our
Terry Moran sitting down with the President in the Oval Office,
Terry asking the President about his tariffs, the economy, immigration,
the war in Ukraine, and how the President answered when
Terry asked if the President still has confidence in his
Defense Secretary Pete hegsett after those two group chats using
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the Signal app discussing military plans involving Yemen US military
jets and their timing. One of those chats included, as wife,
the president facing an historically low approval rating at the
one hundred day mark, a mid concern in this country
over the pres.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Let me just pause for a moment. Do you believe
now I can find a total disclosure here. I have
pretty much ignored all of the polling right now, all
of it Fox News. I don't care rasp Muscage. I've
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ignored all of it because we're right back into the
silly season where the polls are being used to drive
public opinion. They're not being used to reflect public opinion.
So unlessen until and I may or may not do it.
I mean, it's already hump days. Who knows if I'll
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do it this week or not. But these polls were
specifically designed for this particular moment, which is the stupid
one hundred days in office, which is a meaningless meg
that started back I think with fd R and so
so now we've got to, oh, the first hundred days,
it's the lowest approval radium in seventy five years or whatever.
(03:09):
Nobody cares. Nobody cares. I think. You know, Chuck Schumer
is quoted yesterday. As you know, the first hundred days
are defined by five, a five letter word, and I
had to I had to ask myself, let's see f
C k oh, no, no, it's not that one shi, No,
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it's not that one oh C h A O S.
He had to spell it out for us. Chuck is
also a five letter word. I do think if the
polls are accurate, it's simply that people don't like chaos.
But there is chaos right now. This is what we
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ask for. We wanted chaos because we know, we new
and we still do know that the previous path we
were on is unsustainable and the chaos that if we
just let it naturally occur by a collapse of our
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monetary system, a collapse of our fiscal system, of our
budget system, a collapse of our trading system, a collapse
of international affairs, that it's gonna be that. That kind
of chaos is a lot worse. I mean, it's it's
the it's the what was the phrase they kept using, uh,
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managed decline. We were going through managed decline. But at
a point, managed decline becomes utter chaos. Well, that's not
the kind of chaos I want. I want the chaos
and says we're going to disrupt things. And anytime that
if you've ever been involved in a in a large company,
you know when a company decides that, you know what,
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the path we're on is not working and we're gonna
have to change the way we do business, you know
that that's chaotic. I mean, in the almost twenty years
I've been in this building working for this company, originally
clear Channel and now iHeart, I know that when they
when they decided, you know, when the muckety MUCKs have
decided in New York and or San Antonio that we're
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going to go down this path. Okay, Well, that naturally
creates chaos and I and I know when we went
through the chapter eleven, they created chaos and and and
some management was good and some management was not very
good in terms of explaining and you know, extolling the
virtues of some of the chaos. I remember asking PITTMANM
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one time Pitman, the CEO of this company, was here
and he was we were having this you know, company
wide meeting, and he was we were doing it over
the comedy club, and he was describing the virtues of
a chapter eleven and going on, you'll get everything that
I've always explained about the virtues of a chapter eleven.
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How airlines have done him, many companies have done them
because you know, it frees up cash flow and it
allows you to you know, shift your priorities, and it's
it's why we have it in the bankruptcy code and
and you know, leave it to me. I raised my
hand and said, so, why haven't we done this or
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why didn't we do this five years ago? And Pittman
looked at me like, who the hell are you? Why
why are you asking that question? And then I find
out later that I was going to be a part
of a small group if he wanted to me, he
wanted to meet with five employees. So management here picked
five employees sit down and talk to him. And when
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I walked in, he goes, oh, you're the one that
asked me about why we hadn't done five years ago.
And I said, yeah, because truthfully, I you know, as
a shareholder of this company, I've been wondering, you know,
I it's not to my benefit as a common sh
stock shareholder, but it is to the benefit the company
I work for that we do Chapter eleven. And it
seems to me that we've put it off too long
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and we should do it. And he gave some bs
answer about why we hadn't done it, but that chaos
was good, that chaos should have occurred earlier, and the
chaos we're going through now is good because it means
that we're trying to avoid the even worse chaos if
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we don't try to fix these things.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Anyway, back to the interview President's tariffs and higher prices
fears of inflation tonight our first look at the primetime
interview that airs tonight, Terry asking the President about his
advice to Americans to hang tough and what that meant
when it comes to the economy.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Well, you said something a couple of weeks you with
it that struck me. He said. Concerning the terrorifts, which
the economists say are going.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
To raise prices, you said, quote, hang tough, it won't
be easy.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Said that to the American people. Is that what Americans
should affect? Some hard times? Said it was my campaign. Look,
we want a campaign by a lot.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
We won all seven swing states, We won the popular
vote by a lot.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
You know, we had a tremendous campaign.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
I said to all these things during my campaign.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Which is I wish you would extrapolate on that a
little further, but it ought to be Yes, I'm saying this.
I told people that there was going to be a
little rough spot as we tried to realign all of
these things, but that in the long run it would
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be best. And they were told that, and they still
have liked to me, mister Moran, So you're the one
that's perpetuating that. Oh my gosh, prices may go up
a little bit. Now, he does address it in a
little different way. I'm not sure he does it in
this particular SoundBite, but during the course of the interview
he did address it in terms of inflation. You know, wait,
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a minute. You you look the inflation, well, I'm not.
The price increases that we're looking at are nothing compared
to what the inflation was. But long term, it's actually
going to bring prices down.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I said, you're going to have a transition period.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
We've been ripped off by every country all over the world.
They're laughing at us. They thought we were stupid people
than we were, And I said, that's not going to happen.
We're not hard times. Hard times are ahead. I don't
think so. I think tight times are a head. Look
since I came in, gasoline is down, groceries are down,
egg prices are down, many things are down, just about everything.
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You know, you don't have the drop in fuel and
energy and oil like we did.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I took it from maybe three dollars and twenty cents, maybe.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
More than that down into a much lower number.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
When you have that kind of a drop, you're not
going to have inflation.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Not now.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
But it's the terrace, right, We've still one hundred and
forty five percent terraces on CHINAE your Treasure secretary, we
basically have an embargo on China.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Look, you're trying to say, so things are gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
No, okay, well, the thing's gonna happen.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
No business, how I want to ask you, I do
no business.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
And so one hundred and forty five percent tariffs on China,
and that is that's basically an embargo.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
They deserve it.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
It'll raise prices on everything from electronics to clothing to
building houses.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
You don't know that.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
You don't know whether or not China's mathematics. China probably
will eat those tariffs. But at one hundred and forty
five they basically can't do much business with the United States.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
And and that's the point. And they have to do
business with us because there is no other consumer market
in the world like the United States of America. Now,
I don't want to drift off to I'll do this
later in the program, but I want to talk about
China because you know, I had lunch with a good
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friend yesterday and he asked me, China really as bad?
Office is what you say it is? Oh? Yeah, it's
it's bad. It's really bad. They're the Chinese Communist Party.
The factories are shutting down. Uh Chijing ping is I
think could easily be not easily, but it could easily happen.
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That Chijing Ping could lose control of the Chinese Communist Party.
He could be deposed either physically removed, assassinated. The party
could you know, vote him out. The generals could uh
enact a coup. There are any number of things that
that's how bad things are in China right now. And
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there are talks occurring. The talks are not necessarily at
a high level, but I can guarantdemn to you that
there are conversations going on between people in China, between
government officials in China and government officials and our Commerce
Department and our State Department about Okay, we know what
you're doing, and we've got it, you know, because remember
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Chinese has got to save face. That's see Asian culture.
You gotta save face. Well, Trump will let them save face,
but they've got to suffer first, and they are suffering.
Factories are shut down, factories have no orders, factories are
sending workers home, and the Communist Party is send me
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them back to the farms because there's nothing for them
in the cities right now. So China is on the
verge of an economic collapse. They will come to the table.
But why why is everybody worried about China, because I
know we get a lot of crap from China. Maybe
we shouldn't get as much crap from China, Or if
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we do, then maybe China ought to stop stealing our
I p maybe China to open up their markets to
our products. And this precise I see what Trump's trying
to accomplish. In fact, let me just add one more,
one more point, I think, and I think Trump is
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doing it the right way. If he is able to
maintain this posture, if he's able to maintain this position
with China, he actually has the opportunity to not only
realign our trade alliance with China, he has the opportunity
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to eliminate China as an existential threat to not just
the United States, but to Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Australia,
New Zealand, the Philippines, to Western civilization. And I do
believe in my heart of hearts that the Chinese Communist
Party is today the number one threat to Western civilization,
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even more so than Radical islamis even more so than Russia.
Oh there's still threats, but they're not near the threat
that how He's Communist Party is thirty five.
Speaker 7 (14:02):
They basically can't do much business with the United States,
and they were making from us a trillion dollars a year.
They were ripping us off like nobody's ever ripped us off.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
And by the way, we have other countries that were
just as bad.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
If you look at the European Union, who is terrible
what they've done to us.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Every country, almost every country in the world was ripping
us off. They're not doing that anymore.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
The president there on his tariffs. During this wide ranging
primetime interview tonight, Terry also asking the President about his
Defense Secretary, Pete Hegseth and whether he still has confidence
in him.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Here's what the President said.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
I want to ask one question about Defense Secretary Pete
hegsett There's a lot of.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Turmoil at the Pentagon right now.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
There's the signal chat with his wife on where he's
discussing that attack in Yemen. There's another signal chat discussing
attack on Yemen. There's a reporter accidentally involved. You said
the other day that you had to talk with the secretary.
Did you take them to the woodshed?
Speaker 7 (14:57):
I had a chalk with him, and whatever I said,
I probably wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Be inclined to tell you. But we had a good talk.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
He's a talented guy, he's young, he's smart, highly educated,
and I think he's going to be a very good
defense hopefully a great defense secretary, but it'll be a
very good defense sector. You have one hundred percent confidence,
and I don't have one hundred percent confidence in anything? Okay, anything?
Do I have one hundred percent of It's a stupid question.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Love it.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I love that, And you know what I love about
it is one. It is a dumb question. It's it's
a very and most people say, well, yeah, I got
one hundred percent confidence. Trump's right about that. None of
us have one hundred percent confidence in anything. I don't
have a hundred I don't have one hundred percent confidence
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that the world will make it through the day. I
don't have one hundred percent confidence that the sun will
rise in the east tomorrow. I think if it does rise,
I do have one hundred percent confidence will rise in
the east, but I don't have one hundred percent confidence
that it will rise tomorrow. I don't know when the
world's going to end. I don't any more than Dragon
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has a hundred percent confidence in me. I don't have
one hundred percent confidence in Dragon. That's just being honest.
I got a lot of confidence in him enough that
I trust him.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
And as for you, I'm pretty sure you'll forget to
double click at least once today.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
You know, at least once today, if not more so.
He doesn't have hundred percent confidence in that. But Trump,
I just thought that was a great retort. Well, I'm
not inclined to tell you what we talked about, and
he shouldn't. He shouldn't tell him what you know. I'm
not going to say I took him to the woodshed,
which he probably did. H I'm not going to say that.
(16:48):
And no, I don't have one hundred percent confidence in anything.
If you're out there claiming that you have one hundred
percent confidence in something, I would question that be.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
A very good defense to hopefully agree defense secretary, but
he'll be a very good defense sector. You have one
hundred percent confidence, and I don't have to have one
hundred percent confidence in anything? Okay anything? Do I have
one hundred percent it's.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
A stupid question. Look, it's pretty important I have none. No, No,
you don't have one hundred percent.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
Only a liar would say I have one hundred percent confidence.
I don't have one hundred percent confidence that we're going
to finish this interview.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
We will. He I just wanted to get to that point.
When I saw this last night, all I can see
on my peripheral vision was Dragon just throwing the touchdown
signalift back the.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Knowing that he's walked away from interviews before. It's fantastic.
He just gets up and goes, we're done.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
That's a yeah, I enough of this. I'm out of here.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Even before he was president, it's just you know, entrepreneur
Donald Trump. He's gotten up and walked away from interviews.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Oh, classic drug.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
I think he's going to be a very good defense
hopefully a great defense secretary.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
But it'll be a very good defense secretary.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
You have one hundred percent confidence, and I don't have
one hundred percent confidence in anything? Okay anything? Do I
have one hundred percent? It's a stupid question. Look it's
pretty important.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
I have none. No, No, you don't have one hundred percent.
Only a liar would say I have a one hundred
percent confidence.
Speaker 7 (18:27):
I don't have one hundred percent confidence that we're going
to finish this interview.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
We will.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Lieberry Library, It's library.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
What's he talking about?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I had no idea we talked a little bit about
earlier about the library. We have free access to the library.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Right, right, so because I don't have a library card anymore.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Right, and I can't recall the last time I went
to the library.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
You know what fascinates me is I and again it
I think maybe it depends on tonality, It depends upon
the link that anyone has been listening to the program. Uh,
it's a perception of how what a smart ass I
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am and how self deprecating I am about just life
in general. So when you don't get the joke, when
you don't get the what we do, it really worries me.
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Not for us because I don't give her at.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
The ass, but but somebody's being in their forehead is just.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yes, yes, that really concerns me.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
We better we better not say nuclear.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Their new new clear clear new clear you their new
clear library. But I don't know anybody would go to
a library when you can go to the library. Uh.
I want to finish the This is the interview that
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appeared on ABC World News tonight.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
You're real quick, Let's just jump back to this one
quick text. Though my I do I do have one
hundred percent confidence in one thing. Okay, all right, I
am going to live until I die, Jimmy, you know what.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I'll accept that. That's a good one. Yeah, that's actually
a good one. Confidence. And now, yeah, I guess I
could also say that I have one hundred percent confidence
that the world will continue until it doesn't. Well that's deep. Yeah, yeah,
well you know, and I came up with that on
my own. I didn't try to, you know, steal that
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from anybody that might say something like I have one
hundred percent confidence that I will live until I die.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Yeah, real quick. One more text messages Mike. It fascinates
me how often Michael Brown says fascinates.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
It's not I didn't. I think you got the wrong word,
because there's another word that I deliberately use a lot.
I think most people have caught onto fantastic. Fantastic. That's fantastic. Yes,
well I get I don't. It bothers me that some
people don't get exactly what we do here.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
That's part of the joke, that is, that's what I
think is hilarious.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Somebody took the time to leave that talk back because
they were so upset with library.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Library. Because when you grow up in Oklahoma. I Mom,
I tagle down to the library and get you check
out a book. I like to go check out a
book down at the library. Yeah. Uh well, honey, you
can go do that right now. You do, you go enjoy,
you get a good book. Now you get that good book.
You read that good book, because that good book will
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tell you exactly how you need to live. Yeah, that
good book. Back to Terry Moran. Uh, you know, I
kind of find it pretty arrogant that when Trump says
I'm not I don't even have one hundred percent confidence
that will finish this interview, and Moran says we will.
Oh really, you're that confident?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
That makes you and I want to stand up and
walk away.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I'm surprised that didn't make Trump just say hold my beer,
just walk out. You know what, if Trump had done that, Dragon,
you know what, that would have been.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Fantastic and then the media would have gone nuclear.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, exactly. The sad part is we may not get
paid enough, but we actually get paid to do this true.
And I don't think there's there I mean there may be,
I don't know, but is there any other place where
you can go get something discussed where we can discuss
something so serious in such a smart ass venue. I
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don't know if there is, I don't.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
Know, okay anything. Do I have one hundred percent It's
a stupid question. Look, it's pretty important because I have no. No, no,
you don't have one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Only a liar would say I have one hundred percent confidence.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
I don't have one hundred percent confidence that we're going
to finish this interview.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
We will.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Of course, the interview did continue, you did finish it.
The President was, and we should point this out, willing
to answer a multitude of questions. Here, let's bring in
Terry Morani's lie at the White House to night. Terry,
of course, I read through the entire transcript. You asked
about the economy, immigration, the war in Ukraine, you asked
about Elon Muskin, Doge, the federal cuts. This is a
wide ranging conversation tonight.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
It sure was, David.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
We covered a lot of ground. As you say, the
President was really eager to talk about immigration. His efforts
on the border have something that he considers a big success.
We also talked about Vladimir Putin and whether or now
President Trump still trusts him, and we got to look
a rare look inside the Oval Office that he has
really transformed.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
It was fascinating. We look forward to it.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Terry Moran Live with the White House. Terry, thank you tonight.
The full laby I don't have immediately available to me.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
You can probably find it at the library, but there
was the White House put it out, so maybe it's
on their X feed. He has really transformed the Oval Office.
Now I'm gonna get back to the interview in a second,
but this just reminded me about this video Dragon. If
you can find it, let's don't worry about it. But
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if you can, that's great. But someone did with a
go pro or something or some sort of of Giro
stabilized camera, a sweeping circular view of the Oval Office.
And what I found amazing about it is there there
(25:25):
are the number of presidential portraits that he has put
up in the office. The walls are most president well, yes,
most presidents and obviously Bush. Because I was in the
Oval Office a lot with Bush. The presidential portraits were,
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you know, there were three or four five at the most.
He has them all the way to the ceiling and
above the fireplace. You've got Georgia, Washington and it looks
like maybe John Adams and Jeffer Adams or Jefferson and Lincoln. Uh,
you've got Reagan over his left shoulder.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
He's got portraits everywhere. He has flags of all of
the armed services. He has a table that has family
photos and things on. He is really personalized. Ol Winston
and Winston Winston Churchill is back in the in the
Oval Office too, So it's it's really amazing to me
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about how he has done the Oval Office. He is
truly personalized and it's amazing. Well. So anyway, that's that's
the interview as presented to the viewers of ABC World
News tonight, which I find interesting because that's not exactly
what I would consider to be the highlights. So let's
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do some of the highlights. For example, let's let's think about, Oh,
what's it, uh, Abrego Garcia.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I got to cut in here really quick, yes, because
I was trying to find that that circular view of
the Oval Office under Trump. The very first thing that
pops up is Washington Post. It's an opinion piece. Trump's gaudy,
awful Oval Office is all too American.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Wow, guy, that's the first thing I see. It's just
Washington Post. Trump's gaudy, awful oval office is all too American.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
That's freaking unbelievable. I have to jump. I sat here
and just described that I was so amazed by it.
Ye that it's gaudy, it's too American, and I'm thinking, Wow,
this is a president that understands that he's occupying a
(27:56):
very special place. Uh, let's take Can we take the
break now because the next sound bite I want to
use this too long, So let's take a break now.
I'll see it. I'll also see if I can find
that video because I want people to see it. Now.
Let's find out whether they believe it's gaudy or not.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Michael Library Live, Prairie.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Clear, New Clear, spaghetti, pisquetti, potato, potato, tomato, tomato.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Who cares?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Apparently some people do, so I'll have to keep looking
for the video. I can't find the video. Here's something
that was not played during the ABC World News Tonight preview.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
I campaign in that issue. I've done an amazing job.
I have clothesed borders.
Speaker 7 (28:57):
He said you couldn't do it, and you wouldn't be
able to do it, it would never happen.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
And well it happened, and it happened very quickly. Wait
a minute. When we have.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
Criminals, murderers, criminals in this country, we have to get
him out, and we're doing it.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
And you'll pick out one man. But even the man
that you picked out, he's got a piece. Said he
wasn't a member of a gang.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
And then they looked and on his knuckles he had MS.
There's a wait a minute, Wait a minute, he had
MS thirteen on.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
We had some tattoos that are interpreted that way. But
let's move on. Wait a minute, I'll tear it Terry, Terry,
he did not have the letter MS one. It is
MS one three. That was photoshop, So let me do
his photoshop, Terry. Ahead of that. Hey, they're giving you
the big break of a lifetime. You know you're doing
the interview. I picked you because franctly, I never heard
of you. But that's okay, and by this I picked
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to you, Terry. Hey, but you're not being very nice.
He had MS thirteen. Tex. We'll agree to disagree. I'll
carrive on to something else. Harry, do you over show
you the picture? I saw the picture. We'll photoshop. Here
we go here, we don't photoshop, but don't look at
his hand an MS. Third, you did have tattoos that
can be interpreted that way. I'm not an expert on them.
I want to turn to Ukraine. I want to get
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to you.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
He at MS as clear as you can be, not interpreted.
This is why people no longer believe, well, they lose
because again.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
In El Salvador they aren't there. But let's just go
they aren't.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
There when he's in there now right, No, they're in
the Victor Terry, Ukraine's city.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
He's got MS thirteen on his knuckles. All right, Okay,
we'll take a look. It's just such a disservice. We'll
take a look. You just say it, Yes, he does,
you know, going to something else.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Contestant wow, claiming that they've been photoshopped or barely by
all judges.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Oh, that's a subject. So you're saying that you don't like.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
Some of the rulings, some of the I think the
rulings will be overturned.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
You know, I only ask you about one man in
one court order, Kilmar Brego Garcia. He's the salvador man
who crossed into this country illegally, but who is under
a protective order that he not be sent back to
El Salvador. Your government sent him back to El Salvador
and acknowledged in court that was a mistake. And now
the Supreme Court has upheld an order that you must
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return him to facilitate his return to the United States.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
What are you doing to comply?
Speaker 7 (31:21):
Well, the lawyer that said it was a mistake was
here a long time, was not appointed by us. Should
not have said that. Should not have said that, and
just said, to understand a person that you're talking about.
You know you're making this person said, this is a
MS thirteen gang member, a tough cookie, been in lots
of skirmishes, beat the hell out of his wife, and
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the wife was spetrified to even talk about him. Okay,
this is not an innocent, wonderful gentleman.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
From now.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
I'm not saying he's a good guy. It's about the
rule of law. The order from the Supreme Court stands
into our country illegally. You could get him back. There's
a phone on this desk. I could you could pick
it up, and I all the power of the presidents
that you could call up the president of El Salvador.
Speaker 7 (32:03):
And say send him back right now, and if he
were the gentleman that you say he is, I would
do that, But the court hasted to facilitate that.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
I'm not the one making this decision.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
We have lawyers.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
I don't want to do this. Would the buck stop
eyes on?
Speaker 7 (32:16):
No, no, no, no. I follow the law. You want
me to follow the law. If I were the president
that just wanted to do anything, Dragon raises a good point.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
I know I barely pay attention to things. But didn't
Trump have the President of Al Salvador in the oval
office that they are currently sitting in, and Trump said, hey,
can you bring him back? And the President of Al
salvadahuan no, and did I did I miss it?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
And he not only said it them, but I think
he said it subsequently also from l Salvador and said,
I'm not going to send one of our citizens back.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
So, in my opinion, that's Trump trying to facilitate this
man's return to the United States.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Tried, Yes, that's facilitating, and that's all the court said.
And the court even acknowledged that you could even just send.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Him right back.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
By the way, let's not forget too. We discussed this
extensively on this program. He had to removal orders. He
had received his due process. Now they can go fight.
They can go fight that out in the courts if
they want to, which they eventually will, and he's facilitated.
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He's asking the questions, asked and answered. So move on.
Fascinating interview. I will give Terry Moran this. I've been
giving kudos for at least a pushing, because I think
presidents should be pushed regardless of the party, you know,
kind of like they pushed Biden so hard. Remember all
those really hard questions to Biden. Remember those
Michael speaking about our illustrious government here in Colorado. I
want to know, I really want to know what Jared
Polis is doing with the pop money that's supposed to
go to roads and schools, and the lottery money which
is supposed to go to something good, but nothing is
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improved here.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
He is such a grift. Eh, Those states are grift.
I like the ith at the end. Yeah, that was
a very good chu.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
If I do recall correctly, the pot money was supposed
to go to school facilities, So all the new administrators
they hired probably have some nice new buildings or some
equipment and things, but not not for the kids, no,
but for the administrators. And as for the lottery money
that goes to parks, so all the new parks that
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we've gotten, they're maintaining updated.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Okay, that was a valiant effort. You really tried. I tried.
Totally failed, but you really tried.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
But I work with you.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yes, I've totally failed. Well, yes, but at least you
put in the effort, and that's all it really matters. H.
I'm not trying to be cruel, but David muirr ABC
World News tonight again they had an exclusive yesterday with
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the President pretty funny.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
We begin tonight with the ABC News exclusive today Mark's
President Trump's one hundredth day in office, and tonight our
Terry Moran sitting down with the President in the Oval Office,
Terry asking the President about his tariffs, the economy, immigration,
the war in Ukraine, and how the President answered when
Terry asked if the President still has confidence in his
Defense Secretary Pete hegsett after those two group chats using
(01:53):
the Signal app discussing military plans involving Yemen US military
jets and their timing. One of those chats included, as wife,
the president facing an historically low approval rating at the
one hundred day mark, a mid concern in this country
over the pres.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Let me just pause for a moment. Do you believe
now I can find a total disclosure here. I have
pretty much ignored all of the polling right now, all
of it Fox News. I don't care rasp Muscage. I've
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ignored all of it because we're right back into the
silly season where the polls are being used to drive
public opinion. They're not being used to reflect public opinion.
So unlessen until and I may or may not do it.
I mean, it's already hump days. Who knows if I'll
(02:46):
do it this week or not. But these polls were
specifically designed for this particular moment, which is the stupid
one hundred days in office, which is a meaningless meg
that started back I think with fd R and so
so now we've got to, oh, the first hundred days,
it's the lowest approval radium in seventy five years or whatever.
(03:09):
Nobody cares. Nobody cares. I think. You know, Chuck Schumer
is quoted yesterday. As you know, the first hundred days
are defined by five, a five letter word, and I
had to I had to ask myself, let's see f
C k oh, no, no, it's not that one shi, No,
(03:32):
it's not that one oh C h A O S.
He had to spell it out for us. Chuck is
also a five letter word. I do think if the
polls are accurate, it's simply that people don't like chaos.
But there is chaos right now. This is what we
(03:54):
ask for. We wanted chaos because we know, we new
and we still do know that the previous path we
were on is unsustainable and the chaos that if we
just let it naturally occur by a collapse of our
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monetary system, a collapse of our fiscal system, of our
budget system, a collapse of our trading system, a collapse
of international affairs, that it's gonna be that. That kind
of chaos is a lot worse. I mean, it's it's
the it's the what was the phrase they kept using, uh,
(04:35):
managed decline. We were going through managed decline. But at
a point, managed decline becomes utter chaos. Well, that's not
the kind of chaos I want. I want the chaos
and says we're going to disrupt things. And anytime that
if you've ever been involved in a in a large company,
you know when a company decides that, you know what,
(04:56):
the path we're on is not working and we're gonna
have to change the way we do business, you know
that that's chaotic. I mean, in the almost twenty years
I've been in this building working for this company, originally
clear Channel and now iHeart, I know that when they
when they decided, you know, when the muckety MUCKs have
decided in New York and or San Antonio that we're
(05:19):
going to go down this path. Okay, Well, that naturally
creates chaos and I and I know when we went
through the chapter eleven, they created chaos and and and
some management was good and some management was not very
good in terms of explaining and you know, extolling the
virtues of some of the chaos. I remember asking PITTMANM
(05:42):
one time Pitman, the CEO of this company, was here
and he was we were having this you know, company
wide meeting, and he was we were doing it over
the comedy club, and he was describing the virtues of
a chapter eleven and going on, you'll get everything that
I've always explained about the virtues of a chapter eleven.
(06:02):
How airlines have done him, many companies have done them
because you know, it frees up cash flow and it
allows you to you know, shift your priorities, and it's
it's why we have it in the bankruptcy code and
and you know, leave it to me. I raised my
hand and said, so, why haven't we done this or
(06:24):
why didn't we do this five years ago? And Pittman
looked at me like, who the hell are you? Why
why are you asking that question? And then I find
out later that I was going to be a part
of a small group if he wanted to me, he
wanted to meet with five employees. So management here picked
five employees sit down and talk to him. And when
(06:45):
I walked in, he goes, oh, you're the one that
asked me about why we hadn't done five years ago.
And I said, yeah, because truthfully, I you know, as
a shareholder of this company, I've been wondering, you know,
I it's not to my benefit as a common sh
stock shareholder, but it is to the benefit the company
I work for that we do Chapter eleven. And it
seems to me that we've put it off too long
(07:06):
and we should do it. And he gave some bs
answer about why we hadn't done it, but that chaos
was good, that chaos should have occurred earlier, and the
chaos we're going through now is good because it means
that we're trying to avoid the even worse chaos if
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we don't try to fix these things.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Anyway, back to the interview President's tariffs and higher prices
fears of inflation tonight our first look at the primetime
interview that airs tonight, Terry asking the President about his
advice to Americans to hang tough and what that meant
when it comes to the economy.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Well, you said something a couple of weeks you with
it that struck me. He said. Concerning the terrorifts, which
the economists say are going.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
To raise prices, you said, quote, hang tough, it won't
be easy.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Said that to the American people. Is that what Americans
should affect? Some hard times? Said it was my campaign. Look,
we want a campaign by a lot.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
We won all seven swing states, We won the popular
vote by a lot.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
You know, we had a tremendous campaign.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
I said to all these things during my campaign.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Which is I wish you would extrapolate on that a
little further, but it ought to be Yes, I'm saying this.
I told people that there was going to be a
little rough spot as we tried to realign all of
these things, but that in the long run it would
(08:35):
be best. And they were told that, and they still
have liked to me, mister Moran, So you're the one
that's perpetuating that. Oh my gosh, prices may go up
a little bit. Now, he does address it in a
little different way. I'm not sure he does it in
this particular SoundBite, but during the course of the interview
he did address it in terms of inflation. You know, wait,
(08:57):
a minute. You you look the inflation, well, I'm not.
The price increases that we're looking at are nothing compared
to what the inflation was. But long term, it's actually
going to bring prices down.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I said, you're going to have a transition period.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
We've been ripped off by every country all over the world.
They're laughing at us. They thought we were stupid people
than we were, And I said, that's not going to happen.
We're not hard times. Hard times are ahead. I don't
think so. I think tight times are a head. Look
since I came in, gasoline is down, groceries are down,
egg prices are down, many things are down, just about everything.
(09:34):
You know, you don't have the drop in fuel and
energy and oil like we did.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I took it from maybe three dollars and twenty cents, maybe.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
More than that down into a much lower number.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
When you have that kind of a drop, you're not
going to have inflation.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Not now.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
But it's the terrace, right, We've still one hundred and
forty five percent terraces on CHINAE your Treasure secretary, we
basically have an embargo on China.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Look, you're trying to say, so things are gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
No, okay, well, the thing's gonna happen.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
No business, how I want to ask you, I do
no business.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
And so one hundred and forty five percent tariffs on China,
and that is that's basically an embargo.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
They deserve it.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
It'll raise prices on everything from electronics to clothing to
building houses.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
You don't know that.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
You don't know whether or not China's mathematics. China probably
will eat those tariffs. But at one hundred and forty
five they basically can't do much business with the United States.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
And and that's the point. And they have to do
business with us because there is no other consumer market
in the world like the United States of America. Now,
I don't want to drift off to I'll do this
later in the program, but I want to talk about
China because you know, I had lunch with a good
(10:49):
friend yesterday and he asked me, China really as bad?
Office is what you say it is? Oh? Yeah, it's
it's bad. It's really bad. They're the Chinese Communist Party.
The factories are shutting down. Uh Chijing ping is I
think could easily be not easily, but it could easily happen.
(11:12):
That Chijing Ping could lose control of the Chinese Communist Party.
He could be deposed either physically removed, assassinated. The party
could you know, vote him out. The generals could uh
enact a coup. There are any number of things that
that's how bad things are in China right now. And
(11:34):
there are talks occurring. The talks are not necessarily at
a high level, but I can guarantdemn to you that
there are conversations going on between people in China, between
government officials in China and government officials and our Commerce
Department and our State Department about Okay, we know what
you're doing, and we've got it, you know, because remember
(11:58):
Chinese has got to save face. That's see Asian culture.
You gotta save face. Well, Trump will let them save face,
but they've got to suffer first, and they are suffering.
Factories are shut down, factories have no orders, factories are
sending workers home, and the Communist Party is send me
(12:18):
them back to the farms because there's nothing for them
in the cities right now. So China is on the
verge of an economic collapse. They will come to the table.
But why why is everybody worried about China, because I
know we get a lot of crap from China. Maybe
we shouldn't get as much crap from China, Or if
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we do, then maybe China ought to stop stealing our
I p maybe China to open up their markets to
our products. And this precise I see what Trump's trying
to accomplish. In fact, let me just add one more,
one more point, I think, and I think Trump is
(13:02):
doing it the right way. If he is able to
maintain this posture, if he's able to maintain this position
with China, he actually has the opportunity to not only
realign our trade alliance with China, he has the opportunity
(13:25):
to eliminate China as an existential threat to not just
the United States, but to Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Australia,
New Zealand, the Philippines, to Western civilization. And I do
believe in my heart of hearts that the Chinese Communist
Party is today the number one threat to Western civilization,
(13:50):
even more so than Radical islamis even more so than Russia.
Oh there's still threats, but they're not near the threat
that how He's Communist Party is thirty five.
Speaker 7 (14:02):
They basically can't do much business with the United States,
and they were making from us a trillion dollars a year.
They were ripping us off like nobody's ever ripped us off.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
And by the way, we have other countries that were
just as bad.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
If you look at the European Union, who is terrible
what they've done to us.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Every country, almost every country in the world was ripping
us off. They're not doing that anymore.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
The president there on his tariffs. During this wide ranging
primetime interview tonight, Terry also asking the President about his
Defense Secretary, Pete Hegseth and whether he still has confidence
in him.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Here's what the President said.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
I want to ask one question about Defense Secretary Pete
hegsett There's a lot of.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Turmoil at the Pentagon right now.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
There's the signal chat with his wife on where he's
discussing that attack in Yemen. There's another signal chat discussing
attack on Yemen. There's a reporter accidentally involved. You said
the other day that you had to talk with the secretary.
Did you take them to the woodshed?
Speaker 7 (14:57):
I had a chalk with him, and whatever I said,
I probably wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Be inclined to tell you. But we had a good talk.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
He's a talented guy, he's young, he's smart, highly educated,
and I think he's going to be a very good
defense hopefully a great defense secretary, but it'll be a
very good defense sector. You have one hundred percent confidence,
and I don't have one hundred percent confidence in anything? Okay, anything?
Do I have one hundred percent of It's a stupid question.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Love it.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I love that, And you know what I love about
it is one. It is a dumb question. It's it's
a very and most people say, well, yeah, I got
one hundred percent confidence. Trump's right about that. None of
us have one hundred percent confidence in anything. I don't
have a hundred I don't have one hundred percent confidence
(15:50):
that the world will make it through the day. I
don't have one hundred percent confidence that the sun will
rise in the east tomorrow. I think if it does rise,
I do have one hundred percent confidence will rise in
the east, but I don't have one hundred percent confidence
that it will rise tomorrow. I don't know when the
world's going to end. I don't any more than Dragon
(16:10):
has a hundred percent confidence in me. I don't have
one hundred percent confidence in Dragon. That's just being honest.
I got a lot of confidence in him enough that
I trust him.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
And as for you, I'm pretty sure you'll forget to
double click at least once today.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
You know, at least once today, if not more so.
He doesn't have hundred percent confidence in that. But Trump,
I just thought that was a great retort. Well, I'm
not inclined to tell you what we talked about, and
he shouldn't. He shouldn't tell him what you know. I'm
not going to say I took him to the woodshed,
which he probably did. H I'm not going to say that.
(16:48):
And no, I don't have one hundred percent confidence in anything.
If you're out there claiming that you have one hundred
percent confidence in something, I would question that be.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
A very good defense to hopefully agree defense secretary, but
he'll be a very good defense sector. You have one
hundred percent confidence, and I don't have to have one
hundred percent confidence in anything? Okay anything? Do I have
one hundred percent it's.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
A stupid question. Look, it's pretty important I have none. No, No,
you don't have one hundred percent.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
Only a liar would say I have one hundred percent confidence.
I don't have one hundred percent confidence that we're going
to finish this interview.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
We will. He I just wanted to get to that point.
When I saw this last night, all I can see
on my peripheral vision was Dragon just throwing the touchdown
signalift back the.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Knowing that he's walked away from interviews before. It's fantastic.
He just gets up and goes, we're done.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
That's a yeah, I enough of this. I'm out of here.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Even before he was president, it's just you know, entrepreneur
Donald Trump. He's gotten up and walked away from interviews.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Oh, classic drug.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
I think he's going to be a very good defense
hopefully a great defense secretary.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
But it'll be a very good defense secretary.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
You have one hundred percent confidence, and I don't have
one hundred percent confidence in anything? Okay anything? Do I
have one hundred percent? It's a stupid question. Look it's
pretty important.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
I have none. No, No, you don't have one hundred percent.
Only a liar would say I have a one hundred
percent confidence.
Speaker 7 (18:27):
I don't have one hundred percent confidence that we're going
to finish this interview.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
We will.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Lieberry Library, It's library.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
What's he talking about?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I had no idea we talked a little bit about
earlier about the library. We have free access to the library.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Right, right, so because I don't have a library card anymore.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Right, and I can't recall the last time I went
to the library.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
You know what fascinates me is I and again it
I think maybe it depends on tonality, It depends upon
the link that anyone has been listening to the program. Uh,
it's a perception of how what a smart ass I
(19:24):
am and how self deprecating I am about just life
in general. So when you don't get the joke, when
you don't get the what we do, it really worries me.
(19:45):
Not for us because I don't give her at.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
The ass, but but somebody's being in their forehead is just.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yes, yes, that really concerns me.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
We better we better not say nuclear.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Their new new clear clear new clear you their new
clear library. But I don't know anybody would go to
a library when you can go to the library. Uh.
I want to finish the This is the interview that
(20:26):
appeared on ABC World News tonight.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
You're real quick, Let's just jump back to this one
quick text. Though my I do I do have one
hundred percent confidence in one thing. Okay, all right, I
am going to live until I die, Jimmy, you know what.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I'll accept that. That's a good one. Yeah, that's actually
a good one. Confidence. And now, yeah, I guess I
could also say that I have one hundred percent confidence
that the world will continue until it doesn't. Well that's deep. Yeah, yeah,
well you know, and I came up with that on
my own. I didn't try to, you know, steal that
(21:05):
from anybody that might say something like I have one
hundred percent confidence that I will live until I die.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Yeah, real quick. One more text messages Mike. It fascinates
me how often Michael Brown says fascinates.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
It's not I didn't. I think you got the wrong word,
because there's another word that I deliberately use a lot.
I think most people have caught onto fantastic. Fantastic. That's fantastic. Yes,
well I get I don't. It bothers me that some
people don't get exactly what we do here.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
That's part of the joke, that is, that's what I
think is hilarious.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Somebody took the time to leave that talk back because
they were so upset with library.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Library. Because when you grow up in Oklahoma. I Mom,
I tagle down to the library and get you check
out a book. I like to go check out a
book down at the library. Yeah. Uh well, honey, you
can go do that right now. You do, you go enjoy,
you get a good book. Now you get that good book.
You read that good book, because that good book will
(22:24):
tell you exactly how you need to live. Yeah, that
good book. Back to Terry Moran. Uh, you know, I
kind of find it pretty arrogant that when Trump says
I'm not I don't even have one hundred percent confidence
that will finish this interview, and Moran says we will.
Oh really, you're that confident?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
That makes you and I want to stand up and
walk away.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I'm surprised that didn't make Trump just say hold my beer,
just walk out. You know what, if Trump had done that, Dragon,
you know what, that would have been.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Fantastic and then the media would have gone nuclear.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, exactly. The sad part is we may not get
paid enough, but we actually get paid to do this true.
And I don't think there's there I mean there may be,
I don't know, but is there any other place where
you can go get something discussed where we can discuss
something so serious in such a smart ass venue. I
(23:32):
don't know if there is, I don't.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
Know, okay anything. Do I have one hundred percent It's
a stupid question. Look, it's pretty important because I have no. No, no,
you don't have one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Only a liar would say I have one hundred percent confidence.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
I don't have one hundred percent confidence that we're going
to finish this interview.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
We will.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Of course, the interview did continue, you did finish it.
The President was, and we should point this out, willing
to answer a multitude of questions. Here, let's bring in
Terry Morani's lie at the White House to night. Terry,
of course, I read through the entire transcript. You asked
about the economy, immigration, the war in Ukraine, you asked
about Elon Muskin, Doge, the federal cuts. This is a
wide ranging conversation tonight.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
It sure was, David.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
We covered a lot of ground. As you say, the
President was really eager to talk about immigration. His efforts
on the border have something that he considers a big success.
We also talked about Vladimir Putin and whether or now
President Trump still trusts him, and we got to look
a rare look inside the Oval Office that he has
really transformed.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
It was fascinating. We look forward to it.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Terry Moran Live with the White House. Terry, thank you tonight.
The full laby I don't have immediately available to me.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
You can probably find it at the library, but there
was the White House put it out, so maybe it's
on their X feed. He has really transformed the Oval Office.
Now I'm gonna get back to the interview in a second,
but this just reminded me about this video Dragon. If
you can find it, let's don't worry about it. But
(25:03):
if you can, that's great. But someone did with a
go pro or something or some sort of of Giro
stabilized camera, a sweeping circular view of the Oval Office.
And what I found amazing about it is there there
(25:25):
are the number of presidential portraits that he has put
up in the office. The walls are most president well, yes,
most presidents and obviously Bush. Because I was in the
Oval Office a lot with Bush. The presidential portraits were,
(25:47):
you know, there were three or four five at the most.
He has them all the way to the ceiling and
above the fireplace. You've got Georgia, Washington and it looks
like maybe John Adams and Jeffer Adams or Jefferson and Lincoln. Uh,
you've got Reagan over his left shoulder.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
He's got portraits everywhere. He has flags of all of
the armed services. He has a table that has family
photos and things on. He is really personalized. Ol Winston
and Winston Winston Churchill is back in the in the
Oval Office too, So it's it's really amazing to me
(26:28):
about how he has done the Oval Office. He is
truly personalized and it's amazing. Well. So anyway, that's that's
the interview as presented to the viewers of ABC World
News tonight, which I find interesting because that's not exactly
what I would consider to be the highlights. So let's
(26:50):
do some of the highlights. For example, let's let's think about, Oh,
what's it, uh, Abrego Garcia.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I got to cut in here really quick, yes, because
I was trying to find that that circular view of
the Oval Office under Trump. The very first thing that
pops up is Washington Post. It's an opinion piece. Trump's gaudy,
awful Oval Office is all too American.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Wow, guy, that's the first thing I see. It's just
Washington Post. Trump's gaudy, awful oval office is all too American.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
That's freaking unbelievable. I have to jump. I sat here
and just described that I was so amazed by it.
Ye that it's gaudy, it's too American, and I'm thinking, Wow,
this is a president that understands that he's occupying a
(27:56):
very special place. Uh, let's take Can we take the
break now because the next sound bite I want to
use this too long, So let's take a break now.
I'll see it. I'll also see if I can find
that video because I want people to see it. Now.
Let's find out whether they believe it's gaudy or not.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Michael Library Live, Prairie.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
Clear, New Clear, spaghetti, pisquetti, potato, potato, tomato, tomato.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Who cares?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Apparently some people do, so I'll have to keep looking
for the video. I can't find the video. Here's something
that was not played during the ABC World News Tonight preview.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
I campaign in that issue. I've done an amazing job.
I have clothesed borders.
Speaker 7 (28:57):
He said you couldn't do it, and you wouldn't be
able to do it, it would never happen.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
And well it happened, and it happened very quickly. Wait
a minute. When we have.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
Criminals, murderers, criminals in this country, we have to get
him out, and we're doing it.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
And you'll pick out one man. But even the man
that you picked out, he's got a piece. Said he
wasn't a member of a gang.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
And then they looked and on his knuckles he had MS.
There's a wait a minute, Wait a minute, he had
MS thirteen on.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
We had some tattoos that are interpreted that way. But
let's move on. Wait a minute, I'll tear it Terry, Terry,
he did not have the letter MS one. It is
MS one three. That was photoshop, So let me do
his photoshop, Terry. Ahead of that. Hey, they're giving you
the big break of a lifetime. You know you're doing
the interview. I picked you because franctly, I never heard
of you. But that's okay, and by this I picked
(29:46):
to you, Terry. Hey, but you're not being very nice.
He had MS thirteen. Tex. We'll agree to disagree. I'll
carrive on to something else. Harry, do you over show
you the picture? I saw the picture. We'll photoshop. Here
we go here, we don't photoshop, but don't look at
his hand an MS. Third, you did have tattoos that
can be interpreted that way. I'm not an expert on them.
I want to turn to Ukraine. I want to get
(30:07):
to you.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
He at MS as clear as you can be, not interpreted.
This is why people no longer believe, well, they lose
because again.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
In El Salvador they aren't there. But let's just go
they aren't.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
There when he's in there now right, No, they're in
the Victor Terry, Ukraine's city.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
He's got MS thirteen on his knuckles. All right, Okay,
we'll take a look. It's just such a disservice. We'll
take a look. You just say it, Yes, he does,
you know, going to something else.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Contestant wow, claiming that they've been photoshopped or barely by
all judges.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Oh, that's a subject. So you're saying that you don't like.
Speaker 7 (30:53):
Some of the rulings, some of the I think the
rulings will be overturned.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
You know, I only ask you about one man in
one court order, Kilmar Brego Garcia. He's the salvador man
who crossed into this country illegally, but who is under
a protective order that he not be sent back to
El Salvador. Your government sent him back to El Salvador
and acknowledged in court that was a mistake. And now
the Supreme Court has upheld an order that you must
(31:17):
return him to facilitate his return to the United States.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
What are you doing to comply?
Speaker 7 (31:21):
Well, the lawyer that said it was a mistake was
here a long time, was not appointed by us. Should
not have said that. Should not have said that, and
just said, to understand a person that you're talking about.
You know you're making this person said, this is a
MS thirteen gang member, a tough cookie, been in lots
of skirmishes, beat the hell out of his wife, and
(31:43):
the wife was spetrified to even talk about him. Okay,
this is not an innocent, wonderful gentleman.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
From now.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
I'm not saying he's a good guy. It's about the
rule of law. The order from the Supreme Court stands
into our country illegally. You could get him back. There's
a phone on this desk. I could you could pick
it up, and I all the power of the presidents
that you could call up the president of El Salvador.
Speaker 7 (32:03):
And say send him back right now, and if he
were the gentleman that you say he is, I would
do that, But the court hasted to facilitate that.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
I'm not the one making this decision.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
We have lawyers.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
I don't want to do this. Would the buck stop
eyes on?
Speaker 7 (32:16):
No, no, no, no. I follow the law. You want
me to follow the law. If I were the president
that just wanted to do anything, Dragon raises a good point.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
I know I barely pay attention to things. But didn't
Trump have the President of Al Salvador in the oval
office that they are currently sitting in, and Trump said, hey,
can you bring him back? And the President of Al
salvadahuan no, and did I did I miss it?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
And he not only said it them, but I think
he said it subsequently also from l Salvador and said,
I'm not going to send one of our citizens back.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
So, in my opinion, that's Trump trying to facilitate this
man's return to the United States.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Tried, Yes, that's facilitating, and that's all the court said.
And the court even acknowledged that you could even just send.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Him right back.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
By the way, let's not forget too. We discussed this
extensively on this program. He had to removal orders. He
had received his due process. Now they can go fight.
They can go fight that out in the courts if
they want to, which they eventually will, and he's facilitated.
(33:33):
He's asking the questions, asked and answered. So move on.
Fascinating interview. I will give Terry Moran this. I've been
giving kudos for at least a pushing, because I think
presidents should be pushed regardless of the party, you know,
kind of like they pushed Biden so hard. Remember all
those really hard questions to Biden. Remember those
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