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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Michael. Transportation and mobility, they're the great equalizers in our world.
I can get from point A to point B just
as easily as a rich person can. Now, I might
not be able to get there as quickly or as
in style, but it allows me to get from point
A to point B. Mobility is the great equalizer. We
should all be free to get where we want to
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get the way we want to get there, and when
we went.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
To get there. And yes, style doesn't really make any difference.
The point of the object objective of a car to
get you from point A to point B safely and reliably,
just like electricity, the point electricity to power your things
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reliably and consistently. Well, we had to shock the Liberation
Day when you know, all the tariffs were levied on
imports from every country in the world. Now we're starting
to put things together and we're starting to see the results.
(01:06):
The announcement of a trade deal with a big and
highly respected country this morning has just occurred, and it's
significantly not just in itself, but because Trump yesterday added
the suggestion that this will be the first of many.
So his strategy is pretty clear. The last months and
(01:28):
I you know, and I don't know why people are
surprised by this. If I've never read the Art of
the deal, I don't really.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Need to read the art of the deal.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I'm not saying I'm a great negotiator like Trump is,
but I've always understood that if you want to get X,
you ask for Z because you're willing to go.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Back to X.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
So you ask more than you expect because that gives
you room to negotiate, and who knows, you might actually
get Z. If you don't, you might get the why
even though you're willing to settle for the acts. Well,
his strategy, I think was always clear, and that was
shock therapy, intended to precipitate a round of trade deals
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that then, over time, would rebalance all trade in our favor.
I don't think he ever intended them as some sort
of permanent fixture, at least not at the levels that
he announced back on April second, when we had Liberation Day.
And of course even that was all part of the
hype of getting the attention of everybody around the world,
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get everybody else speculating and talking about it and thinking about,
oh my gosh, he's crazy and he's going to you know,
economists everywhere flip flopped back and forth about what we're
going to do. Well, the announcement came just in fact,
they're still doing it. Here's a little bit of it.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
I just want to begin by saying that this is
a very special day because it's Victory Day World War
two May eighth, and just by happenstance, we have the
Prime Minister on the phone, and we were great allies
in that and it's very unusual that the trade deal
comes to and we signed it up on the same
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day that we had a great victory, the greatest victory.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Of them all.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
So we are talking more and more about Victory Day
because we were a big part of it, and so
it was the UK and it's just, I guess, I
don't know what.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
You call it.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
It's just incredible that that day is the same day
that we signed a tremendous trade deal for both countries.
So I'm going to begin by just adding that we
just concluded the rare earth deal with Ukraine that's been
fully ratified and approved by their legislative branches, and so
we appreciate that. And I'll be speaking with the President
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in a little while.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
A little bit later, appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
But the dealers all now signed up and ratified, and
we have access to a massive amount of very very
high quality rare earth.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Now I guess there. I doubt we know all the
details yet. We may not know all the details until
we actually see it. But now it could turn out,
I don't know yet because it's still being announced that
the deal between US and the UK could be weighted
so heavily in our favor that other countries, you know,
are kind of put off by it, and so it
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might make future trade deals more difficult. Or it could
be a fairly balanced trade deal, and it does start
the avalanche, the snowball, and pretty soon you got other
countries coming in and Trump's going to get exactly what
he wants. Now, this would not be if it's one sided.
It would be the first time that the United Kingdom
struck a one sided deal with the Republican president. Tony
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Blair got accues of negotiating a one sided extradition treaty
with my old boss Bush that made it really easy
to extradite criminal suspects from Britain, but a lot harder
in the other direction. Maybe they're just not very good negotiators,
but this current labor government has similarly been accused of
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selling out British interests. Just this week, the UK announces
a trade deal with India that some economists complain is
weighted against Britain and allows Indian nationals to work in
Britain for three years without paying national insurance contributions. In
other words, kind of going to work in the UK
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from you know, Bangalore and then not having to make
the tax contributions to all the national insurance programs like
the national you know their their NIH not their NHS
National Health Service. All those taxes are supposed to fund
all the work related benefits and pensions that the Brits get.
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There's also been the controversy of the Chegos Islands, where
Diego Garcia is located, which the Starmer UK government has
decided to hand over to Markis and then least back
in a deal that would cost the UK about nine
billion dollars over the next century. So there is on
behalf of Kere Starmer, the current Prime Minister of the UK.
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There is a little bit of weakness or appeasement or
inability to negotiate very well. But on the other hand,
this trade agreement could turn out to be exactly what
Trump is promoting it as, and that is a deal
that ends up liberating trade rather than constraining trade. Now,
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the markets, the futures. I haven't looked at the markets
right now since they're just now making the announcement, but
the only reaction of the markets suggested confidence that this
will be a substantive deal of benefit to both sides.
You know, if you go back to April, the world
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seems to forget Trump's way of doing things. It should
be received wisdom that Trump really did want to burden
the US economy with punitive tariffs that threatened undermine much
of our own industries. But among the biggest victim of
blanket tariffs are always domestic sectors that suffer a really
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sharp rise in costs because of the need to import
the raw materials and the components. That received wisdom is
now undergoing rapid reassessment because Trump, you know, starts out
with that and creates that kind of perceived threat that's
going to cost more. All the raw materials are going
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to cost more. You can you can't buy what was
it becent? Said the Treasury Secretary. Some of the factor
or maybe Trump said. One of the two said that, oh,
you're not going to get three dollars for Christmas, You're
only going to get to Well, that received wisdom. Apparently
he's going undergoing a pretty rapid reassessment because Trump, as
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anybody who's watched them should know, started to adopt a
more conciliatory language and as he wants to start announcing
the trade deals. So could this even be the beginning
of a new golden as of free trade?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Now?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I know to some that sounds like a naive, controlling idea,
but you have to admit that what Trump has demonstrated
is that when there is when the will is, when
he's got the will, when he's when he's determined, you
can actually negotiate a trade deal pretty quickly, in weeks
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rather than years. Because traditionally you look back on and
after any other trade deal, it usually takes at least
a year, if not longer. So if this UK US
trade deal sets a precedent, it could just turn out
that the ultimate outcome of that so called Liberation Day
is the exact opposite of what the goball kept telling us.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
It might actually.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Result in a far nimbler global trade system and the
possibility of more open global economy and that benefit in
yours to us lower trade deficits, bringing more manufacturing on shore,
bringing more money back into the economy as opposed outflowing
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to our enemies like Chinese Communist Party, any number of
So Dragon, can we jump into Fox, who's apparently he's
still talking about it. Can we see what he's saying.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
You'll need Let's talk about American need really quickly. And
it can't be understated on for promins, by the way,
how important this deal is and what this means to
American farmers and rancher sif to the beef, this is
going to exponentially increase our beef exports. And to be
very clear, American beef is the safest, the best quality,
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and the crown jewel of American agriculture for the world.
So I think a really important part of this deal
isn't just the ethanol reducing terrafts from nineteen to zero,
which for our road croppers is a huge deal, but
also for beef. And as we move forward, I know
our incredible trade team is looking at all the meats,
all of the produce, really all of our agriculture exports,
and I don't know if there's an industry that has
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been treated more unfairly and has suffered more than our
agriculture industry. So we look forward to I'll be in
the UK on Monday talking to my counterpart over there
for the next really for next week, and look forward
to moving that out across the country.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
The president is I think we get today that we
have the best in the world, of best tractors, the
best everything in the world, and they say that our
agriculture is second to none, you understand, and it'll be
a great asset. People are going to be able to
have's choice and they'll have more of it and that
usually means lower prices.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
How about will do you than you?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
A question for the payan to meet them them Pando
la seven to the talk and contain media so convertisation
for the deal.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
We see a big revenues from the.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Charts, but what's the rest of Europe there it's a
victory day, but other European country it seems like.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
We intend to make a deal with Europe.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
We have found that the European Union treated as extremely unfairly.
They're very difficult and hurt themselves in doing so, and
they very much want to make a deal.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
We'll be dealing with them.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
We are dealing with them currently, so that'll cover pretty
much the rest of it.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
But this was.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Separate because of Brexit in particular.
Speaker 8 (11:43):
You know, this was a separate, a separate deal.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
And it always seems so natural.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I mean, the media would.
Speaker 7 (11:49):
Say that this seemed to be like, why did this
happen twenty five years Why didn't happen a long time ago?
And it was always amazing to me. Somebody would say, hey,
we got to make it deal, we have to make
a deal. But this just fell into place. The Prime
Minister did a fantastic job.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Is representatives of total professionals.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
And they got the wrong well and it just seemed
to work.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
And I think one of the reasons it did.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Is because we blew up the whole system that we
would have just been dealing with you separated, stop right
their dragon.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
That's pretty good. It worked really well because we blew
up the entire system. Which is interesting because for decades,
and I mean all across the political spectrum, the Cabal
has kept warning about the dangers of our reliance when
foreign nations, particularly China, for all these critical goods medicine, pharmaceuticals,
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our iPhones, whatever it might be. So those warnings, the
cabal often framed them as urgent national security concerns, and
then they pointed out rightfully so to the national risks
of the supply chain disruptions, the potential geopolitical leverage that
a place like communist China might have over this country,
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and of course the vaultunerability of not just the healthcare system,
but as you and I, as consumers of the healthcare system,
not having access to the kinds of drugs or antibiotics
or pharmaceuticals that we might need to take care of ourselves.
And it was Democrats, Republicans, it was all the news
out all kept sounding any alarm about that all the time.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
So then here comes Trump blows that.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
System up, trying to address the problems in a way
that no other president's done, and doing it through tariffs.
And then all of a sudden, those same voices went
from oh, my gosh, this is a national security concern
to oh my gosh, there might be short term economic
fallout criticism, Oh, let's disparage this plan. I find that
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interesting because they overlooked the long term benefits that they
were once championing as if the problems they highlighted can
somehow be solved magically with just the wave of a
wall and zero short term disruptions. Trump's been telling us
all along that there might be some short term disruptions,
but in the long run, it's going to make the
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country stronger and better. So how does the cabal, or
the anti tariff Republicans or Democrats on both sides of
the aisle, how do they square what they kept telling
us for decades with what's happening now? So, you know,
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the pandemic should have been a wake up call. Instead
we get collective amnesia. And I think the collective amnesia
is really mostly about what politics. You have to admit
that Trump blowing things up in and of itself is
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a polarizing action because now they can you know, they've
been talking about now for the first one hundred days,
about all the chaos and all the disruption. Yet there
are polls out that show that the majority of Americans
want the chaos because they're sick of the status quo.
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They want to see change. Well, let's go back to
the cabal. They spent decades telling us about how uneasy
they were about depending on again China, for example, for
all the essential goods. In twenty nineteen, the Washington Post
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published an article quote, China's control of US pharmaceutical supplies
sparks growing concern, And the whole gist of the story
was that China had dominance in producing pharmaceutical ingredients and
that that posed a national security risk. And then the
story talks about the disruptions, whether it was from a
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trade dispute or geopolitical tensions, or you know, there's a
little skirmish going somewhere, all of which could leave us
without the vital drugs that we need. And of course
they cited bipartisan experts, bipartisan lawmakers.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
In twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
The New York Times did the same thing, but instead
of it was still about China, but instead of pharmaceuticals,
it was about critical minerals used in defense technologies. Twenty
nineteen NBC air to segment where experts cautioned the China's
control over medical supply manufacturing could be weaponized and again
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cutting us off to life saving this time not just
drugs or to the rare earth minerals, but this time
to medical supplies, medical equipment. So I'm scratching my head.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Here.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
They speak about the problem for decades, tell us how
bad it is. Then Trump comes along and blows it
all up and starts putting it back together, and puts
it back together this morning with a trade deal with
the UK. Now, I don't know the details yet, but
it seems to me that huh no, I didn't know
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who'd be the first, but I think it's pretty interesting
and pretty significant that the first one. I kind of
thought it would be Japan, but the fact that it's
the United Kingdom it makes a lot of sense. So
what does the cabal have to say?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Now?
Speaker 9 (17:30):
Michael, can you explain the position with the Treasury Secretary
and what could possibly be done to replace that position
to where an interest rate for a thirty year mortgage
could be brought down to where the average person could
afford that. It seems like it's an old school law
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that doesn't seem to be working.
Speaker 8 (18:02):
At old school law, right, Go ahead, Michael, explain it.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
And the Treasury Secretary is responsible for the interest rate
on a thirty year mortgage?
Speaker 8 (18:11):
Laws, Yeah, laws, your lawyer, So go break it down
for us.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
And we don't even mention the Federal Reserve that sets
the FED rate by which all of the rates are based.
I have no clue what you're talking about nine whatsoever.
Speaker 8 (18:28):
But you're a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Well yes, uh give mean you start doing the research
now on there by the way, I'm really disappointed about
something I've I locked into our clipping service. The view?
Is it on air right now?
Speaker 8 (18:47):
I have no idea what you can? You change your
TV and look channel? Are they on ABC?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Whatever?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
ABC is so mess in Denver? That's what seven? Channel seven,
which I don't nobody is on table. I don't know
what that is. I'm gonna say, I want to see
if Biden's there, Treasury Secretary, whom he might have Joe
Biden on the view? I mean we could talk terrifs
we could talk Joe Biden on the view? I mean,
which which is going to be more entertaining?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
All right?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I could do one of these stories over here dragon
left on the console this morning, which obviously one is
very self centered, but we'll give it that in a minute.
He can't find the view. You can't find the view.
I'm going if they taped land, let's ask what time
does the view air in Denver?
Speaker 8 (19:36):
I thought you said earlier it was eight. Well it's
after nine now.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
The view airs on ABC in Denver from eleven to
twelve Eastern, so it should be on now.
Speaker 8 (19:48):
We got elephants on.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Well this now, Dennis says, here's here's how bad AI is?
So on on the Google. I just typed him what
time does the view Denver? The view airs on ABC
in Denver and across the United States from eleven to
twelve pm Eastern Time. Since Denver is in the Mountain
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time zone, which is two hours behind the Eastern time zone,
the view airs in Denver from eight am to nine
am in.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
The Mountain time zone.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
That math ain't mathing.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
That math ain't mathing at all? Is it AI? I
don't know what you got here? Oh generative AI is experimental?
Speaker 8 (20:32):
I got something animal program. They're talking about elephants.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
You sure that's not the view? Look closely see if
those are elephants or those are the ladies the ladies
of the view. See which one it is? TV schedule
for KMGH in Denver eight thirty six, nine oh six?
Who is what is this? TV schedule for ABC Denver?
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Good Morning America, Denver seven gets fired? Where at five
at eleven am? Midday news update. Oh, five p five pm.
The View comes on at five o'clock in Denver. Wow,
what so what would be going on at nine am
in Denver? Who has access?
Speaker 8 (21:27):
Jack Hannah with the Elephants since it's so much.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, this is the six am you got Good Morning
America and the Morning Rush. Oh this skips, this dip
makes will sense to me at all. I can't make
heads or tail of what's showing so well, Daniel, we can't.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Do the view.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Maybe we'll do the view tomorrow because I really do
think you need to understand exactly what doctor Joe Biden
and former President Joe Biden had to say on the View.
This story caught my attention because it shows you just
how dramatically the world is changing, and how if you're
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telling your child that they must go to college, you're
doing a disservice. Wall Street Journal headline the high school
juniors with seventy thousand dollars a year job offers. The
subhead says this, companies with shortages of skilled workers look
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to shop class to recruit recruit future hires. Like I'm
an athlete getting all of this attention from all these
pro teams. Elijah Rios won't graduate from high school until
next year, but he already has a job offer and
it pays sixty eight grand a year. He's seventeen years old.
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He's a junior taking welding classes at Father Judge at
Catholic High School in Philly. It works closely with companies
that are looking for workers in the skilled trades. The
journal says employers are dealing with a shortage of such
workers as baby boomers retire. You see, you're shoving us
out of the way. I couldn't do this kind of
work if I had to. They have increasingly begun courting
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high school students like Rios, a hiring strategy they say
is likely to become even more crucial in the coming years.
Everything from local transit systems to submarine manufacturers make regular
visits to the welding classrooms every year.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Get this.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
They bring branded swag and they pitch students on their workplaces.
This sounds like the draft. This sounds like they're recruiting
a college students to go play in the NFL. When
Rios graduates next year, he plans to work as a
fabricator at a local equipment maker for nuclear recycling. In
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other sectors, a job that pays twenty four dollars an hour,
plus regular overtime and paid vacations. He grew up in
a Fiew Defu neighborhood of Kensington, around drug addicts and homelessness,
and said he was determined to build a better life
for himself. And I quote him, sometimes it's a little overwhelming,
like this company wants you, that company wants you. It
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honestly feels like I'm an athlete getting all this attention
from all these pro teams. Employers say, you know how
I tell you. You know, everybody's afraid of robots, and
everybody's afraid of, you know, automation. Listen to this paragraph
from the journal. Employers say that as the skilled trades
become more tech infused, meaning they're more reliant on technology,
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more technology involved in actually what they're doing, whether it's
welding or anything else, they anticipate doing even more recruitment
at an early age because they need workers who are
comfortable programming and running computer diagnostics. Bob Walker, the founder
of Global Affinity, the Bristol, Pennsylvania based manufacturer who offered
Mister Real jobs, said I'm not looking to hire the
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guy I used to have twenty years ago. The equipment
he uses is highly advanced, including a one point seven
million dollars steel laser cutter, and he says he needs
tech savvy workers to operate. As I said, if you're
encouraging your son or daughter, it may be reasons, don't
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get me wrong, but if you're just walking out and saying,
don't do this, or I would say to school district
in Colorado if you're not offering shop class, which I
kind of be curious. I wonder how many school districts
in Colorado offer shop, offer trade training in any of
these things, whether it be welding or woodworking or anything else. Electricity, plumbing.
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I need a good electrician today. Angie Simon, until recently
CEO of a mechanical contractor in California, in twenty twenty
one started the Heavy Metal Summer Experience. It's a summer program, nonprofit.
It exposes high school students to careers in the trade welding, plumbing,
and piping. She's now the executive director. The program is
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free to participants who apply. It will have nine hundred
students this summer in fifty one locations across the country,
mostly hosted by local contractors who often didn't hire the
former campers after they graduate. She says, you got to
stop thinking someone else is going to solve your problem.
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Why don't you do something about it. I love wherever
she is. I love her. Jenny Cantrell, eighteen years old,
is working at Canistrello, a plumbing, an HVAC mechanical contractor
that hosted her summer camp in Boston. She credits the
camp for piquing her interest in plumbing and accepting Strero's
job offer without looking elsewhere. I already had that connection,
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she said. Talk about networking. You're networking learning a trade,
and the people who need those trade workers are sponsoring
the camp that you're going to. This is the kind
of America that I love. A decade ago, administrators often
snubbed employers in the skilled trades who tried to get
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a table at a high school career fair. That's according
to Aaron Hilger, CEO the Sheet Metal and Air Conditioning
Contractors National Association. But he says with more high schools
trying to give students alternatives to college, that attitude has changed.
Constellation Energy they operate nukes and Baltimore offers maintenance technician
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and equipment operator roles that are open to high school
graduates who have no four year degrees pay as high
as six figures. The vice president overseeing the workforce development
for this company says, these are family sustaining careers. So
as we continue to advance technologically, as the economy gets
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more and more driven to technology infused whatever it may be.
As I say, as I say all the time, those
doors close, but these other doors open, and suddenly you
find yourself, Oh, we still need what I would put
in their quotes trade workers. But they're highly skilled trade
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workers that are now working with technology that's infused into
whether it be electrical work, plumbing work, whatever it might be.
The tech is now infused in that, and you still
need those workers. Let's see what else does the story say.
For years, the pendulum swung too far in the direction
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of a college for all mindset, and it's important to
make sure students are made aware of all their options.
According to Steve Klein, a researcher who focuses on vocational
education the nonprofit Education Northwest. At the same time as
interest in vocational education rises, he worries that sentiment runs
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the risk of swinging too much in the other direction.
Oh my god, we go from one extreme to the other.
There can't be any moderation, As he says, there's no
one answer that works for everybody. Adding to too much
of a focus on the skilled trades in high school
means that some other students risk losing exposure to broader
career interests too. Man, we all just need to calm down.
(29:34):
Just calm down. Why don't we just let everybody pursue
their own self interest.
Speaker 8 (29:39):
Yeah, and take a break, and.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Take a break.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
Michael Dragons for taxpayer release shots SEEMA text message eight
zero three zero.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Wow, none being ordered to go read people's text messages
eight zero three zero. Let's see eight zero three zero.
I don't find it eight zero three zero, Michael Dragon.
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Lead ball not leaf Michael, Oh here the taxpayer relief
shot talked back. I sent was an eighteen fifty nine
Remington six shooter with twenty grains of powdered behind a
four to fifty one. Oh I see here? Yeah, lead
ball not leaf ball. I send it with the idea
you use it in your intro to Friday's TPR segment,
(30:38):
using it as the first thing to the intro seems
like an appropriate place without my comments.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Of course. Well, of course we don't watch our comments.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Who comes about your comments?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Can you play that?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Can you play that sound again? Dragons? What does it
sound like?
Speaker 3 (30:56):
That's not enough?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Needmore and we need more? Now that's you doing it. Obviously.
I want to hear the revolver click. He says it's
a six shooter. It's a remison the six shooter. So
I want to hear. I want to hear the pull
of the trigger, the click of the of the chamber
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going around, and that's what I So you got to
you got to rerecord it. Go back to the range
and rerecord it. If you're going to demand that we
do your sound, then uh, put some good sound in there.
Uh let's see.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Oh I can't. As a tease, yeah.
Speaker 10 (31:52):
Well, when was the last time you spoke with the
vice president? And has she talked to you about what
she wants to do next? Saw any advice?
Speaker 11 (31:59):
Maybe yesterday? I talked to her frequently, phoebe stand touch
number one.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Just stop. Do you believe that at all?
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Do you think that Kamala Harris and Joe Biden talked
at all? I don't think they've probably had one single conversation.
Speaker 10 (32:15):
And was the last time you spoke with the vice president?
And has she talked to you about what she wants
to do next? Sought any advice?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Maybe Governor yesterday.
Speaker 11 (32:25):
I talked to her frequently. Boebe stand touch number one too.
She's thought, my opinion. I'm not gonna tell you what
it is.
Speaker 8 (32:37):
What to wear to the Metdala? Yeah yeah, well, mister president.
Speaker 10 (32:49):
Some have even argued that leaving the race and endorsing uh,
your vice president, Vice President Harris one hundred over one
hundred days before the election hampered her MPa. You know,
what do you say to those critics?
Speaker 11 (33:03):
I say, number one, that there was still six full months.
She was in every aspect, every decision I made, every
decision we made, and I don't think.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
I was kind of hope. I don't doesn't sound the
wrong way. He doesn't sound the wrong way.