5-9-25 - 6am - DIA Executives Cost of Flying

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mike on Dan Kaplis's show. I happened to jump in
the car and turn on his show in the middle
of a quote from someone I did not know at all.
I had no context for the statement. He said something
about someday I'll have to stand before him and it
could be trans Jesus, and I thought, oh, my gosh,
is that the new Pope saying that? Thank Thankfully it

(00:25):
was not the Pope saying that.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
I you know, I'm gonna wander off into Catholicism and
the election of the new Pope.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Can I jump in and say something? First, No, you cannot,
damn you save it. Save it, and I know exactly
what you're gonna say, and just say it. I'm tired
of it already, I know you are.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
But wait till we get to that topic and then
you and then I'll give you all the time you want.
You can vent all the In fact, you know what,
it'll give me the entire hour to vent. I'll just
go take a nap or something like. I'll go to
mc donalds and get me a biscuit or something. You know.
Just I'll go ahead and get the dogs and we'll
get a couple of sausage biscuits and listen to you
rant on the radio.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
That's what we'll do. Dots who a duncan door? Maybe
a Lamar donut? Yeah, lamar maple bar.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
I want to do a couple of Colorado stories first,
simply because well because they irritate me. It. You know,
there's a great story. Who did it over at Complete Colorado.
I would encourage you to get over to Complete Colorado. Uh,
Sherry Fife did it? Uh? Reason magazine tugs back on

(01:40):
Governor Jared Polis's libertarian card. You may you may remember
that Reason and in particular Nick Gillespie, who wrote the
original article. There was a period where they were talking
about how Jared Polis was really kind of this new Democrat.
He was really kind of he was almost libertarian. Well,

(02:00):
based on everything that's happened and the scorecard, the great
report that I put on X that thousands of you
have now retweeted, reposted and has bunked my numbers up
a little bit, that's simply amazing. Based on that, Based
on the article yesterday from US News about Colorado is

(02:22):
the second most dangerous state in the country, based on
a whole bunch of stuff including the evisceration of our
Second Amendment rights, the proliferation of transgender rights. That Reason
Magazines beginning to pull back a little bit. You know,
maybe we were duped. No Feasi, Sherlock, Nick, let me

(02:42):
tell you were totally duped to think that Jared Polst
was a libertarian. You feil for it, you absolutely fail
for it. Well, anyway, I would strongly encourage you to
get over to complete Colorado dot com, Complete Colorado dot.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Com or Michael says go here dot com. Yeah, or
Michael says go here dot com. But I get a
commission from Caldera. He pays me in tokens. He gives
me the little tokens of some sort to push his website.
But anyway, it's a complete Colorado dot com or Michael
says go here dot com. It's an article by Shering.
The reason Reason magazine tugs back, tugs back on Governor

(03:16):
Jared pols his libertarian card. He never had a libertarian card.
Reason Magazine was totally, completely and totally wrong about this.
But CBS Brian Moss, who I think is the extraordinary
investigative reporter in Colorado. Brian Moss does amazing work has
this story, and this story just pisces me off to

(03:42):
no end because of one thing. I mean, you may think,
as I tell you the story, I want you to
guess what it is that really irritates me. Is it
is it the numbers, is it the trip, is it
the dollar amount? Or what is it about this story
that really just set me off? Story goes like this,

(04:05):
dim Re International Airport has a CEO but the name
of Philip Washington. He and eight of his top executives.
Nine people flew round trip to Madrid in April. Now,
I wonder if they were there during the blackout. I
didn't find that anywhere, but maybe they were in Madrid
during the blackout. They went there for a three day

(04:27):
airport terminal conference. Every single person flew either first or
business class on every leg of the trip, meaning that
if they flew United, which I don't remember if it
says United or not, but if they flew United to
go to Madrid, you probably went to either O'Hare or Dulles,

(04:49):
maybe Newark if you were the stupid, but you went
to O'Hare or Dulles and you made a connection.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
And flew from there to Madrid. I don't think there's
a direct flight from Madrid, and I think this. He
says every leg so from here to Chicago or here
to DC was in firster business class, and then you know,
going across the pond was in business class. Also, Brian
says that one of the tickets costs over nineteen thousand dollars,

(05:17):
which does not surprise me, because you know, I like
to fight first class. I like to fly business class,
and I use my own money to do so. I
don't use the taxpayer money to do that. And so,
for example, when I flew to Chicago, the University of

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Chicago has a policy that they will reimburse me for
a fully refundable economy class ticket, which is pretty good
because a fully refundable economy class ticket is usually more
expensive than just a refundable I mean a non refundable
economy class ticket. So I don't remember the exact dollar amount,

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but let's say that round trip Chicago on a fully
refundable economy class ticket was six hundred dollars. Well, I
could buy a first class ticket round trip to Chicago
for nine hundred dollars. So I would just buy the
nine hundred dollars ticket and charge them the six hundred dollars,
and I just eat the three hundred dollars difference so

(06:21):
that I could fly first class from DIA to O'Hare. Yeah,
I'm a snob, so you know what I can. I
can do it, and I'm fortunate that I can do it.
So I do do it. But I don't ask you
to do it now, I don't ask you to pay
for it. And I'm not surprised that these numbers at all,
because the last time I went to Rome, I flew

(06:44):
business class, and I can tell you that it was
in that in that it wasn't quite this bad, but
it was in that ballpark. One of the tickets, Brian
wrightes costs over nineteen thousand dollars paid for by taxpayers. Well,
you know, technically, I guess I should say, because I'm
not really sure here whether it's taxpayers or it's users

(07:08):
of Denver International Airport, but either way, somebody else paid
for it. They didn't pay for it themselves. CBS got
the records because they filed in Colorado Open Records Act request. Well,
during a Zoom interview about the trip, the CEO Denver
International Airport said international travel is costly. Huh. Master the obvious,

(07:37):
isn't it. Then he was asked, why did you and
your entourage need to fly the most expensive class of
service on every leg to and from Spain, And he said,
our policy allows us to do that. Who makes up

(07:58):
that policy, he does. He writes the policy. So as
the CEO and whoever oversees the airport, they wrote the policy.
So they themselves came up with this policy that said,
oh yeah, we can do that. The white the air traffic,

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not the air traffic. The air ticket aggregator Kayak. It's
a website Kayak. You can go on there and it'll
search all the cheapest fairs shows. Round trip tickets from
Denver to Madrid cost as little as thirteen hundred dollars
if you want, say economy plus, that's around three thousand
dollars versus sixteen and nineteen thousand dollars. But the CEO

(08:46):
of the Denver International Airport doesn't know when to quit
digging the whole because he kept digging and said that, well,
the first class travel was critical, critical to their productivity. Quote,
you got to hit the ground running. You literally you

(09:07):
literally go from the plane to a meeting or a
conference or whatever. This is for those reasons, this is
allowed in our travel policy, and we did hmm. But
Brian Moss, being the intrepid investigative reporter, he is check
into that the actual flight tickets obtained by CBS News

(09:30):
Colorado showed that these executives landed in Madrid at about
nine am, between nine and ten am on the morning
of April seven. So let's just say ten am on
April seven. But when you go search for the conference,

(09:50):
the twenty twenty five passenger terminal Extra expo show the
conference didn't begin until twenty four hours later on the
morning of April eighth. Now what did he say, Just
to remind you, you got to hit the ground running.
You literally go from the plane to a meeting or
a conference or whatever. This is for those reasons, this

(10:13):
is allowed on our travel policy. Oh so you got
the Madrid Now I know how to travel overseas. People
make a huge mistake. They travel overseas. They land in
Madrid or Frankfurt or London wherever they land, and they
are tired because you know, they're jet lagged, and so
they go to bed. That's a huge mistake. You don't

(10:35):
you stay awake, You force your way through the day.
You might go to bed early, like you might go
to bed at seven nine o'clock at night because you're
just exhausted, but you force your way because it helps
your body adjust. So I'm going to assume that that
is precisely what they did. They landed because these are
airport executives, so they surely understand the rigors of international

(10:58):
travel because there are policies A WHOA, you land and
you goes right to a meeting. No, they went right
to play tourist. They went right to play tourists. Two
other US airports, DFW and LAX, which both are similar
in passenger traffic to d Denver International, sent far fewer

(11:18):
reps than DA. So we sent nine, LAX sent four,
DFW sent five, So we doubled. We doubled what LAX
and DFW did. Washington says, quote, we were the talk
of the conference. Wow, well, BFD. The round trip flights

(11:45):
for DA's chief operating officer, Dave Laporte, came out to
nineteen ninety four dollars and twenty one cents. Missus Laporte,
I think you owe the people of the patrons and
the users of Denver International Airport the expayirers of the
City and County of Denver. I think you owe them
an apology. While the flights for William Poole, the airport's

(12:05):
senior vice president of Planning and Design, you ought to
be fired considering you're charge of the planning and design.
Look what's going on out there total fifteen thousand, seven
hundred and sixty four dollars and seventy one cents. Mister Pool,
you own apology not only for the really fed up
construction and poorly designed stuff going on out of DIA,

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but also for the more than fifteen thousand dollars you
charge to the taxpayers to fly out to Madrid. Washington's
flight the CEOs His flight came in at three hundred
and twenty four dollars and one cent, and flights for
his chief of staff, Maria Melndez was three hundred and
twenty four dollars and twenty one cents. They were actually

(12:46):
cheaper than the other staff members, and Washington says, we
always tried to get the cheapest fairs we can get.
What a meaningless statement. You tried to get the cheapest
fairs you can get in the class of service that
you want to fly in. So if you want to
fly in economy, you try to get the cheapest. If
you want to fly in economy, plus, you try to

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get the cheapest if you want to fly in business,
or you want you know, the Life flat seats, which
is why I'm sure they got you went to Life
flat seats so you can take a nap on the
way over, so you can hit the ground running playing tourist.
So then a day later you can go to the conference.
But here's another kicker. Oh have you figured out why

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really pissed me off? Have you really want to pissed
me off? Two things, We literally hit the ground running.
We literally had to go to the conference. No, it
started twenty four hours later. That's number one. And the
second thing is we did this because the policy tells
us we can. Oh, so whether it's right or wrong,

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or whether it was a good steward or being a
good fiduciary of the taxpayer's money, you did it because
the policy allows you to do it, and you wrote
the policy, so youan that special in this. But this
is PM. This is nothing but opm other people's money,
Brian writes at cbsnews dot com. But Milandez apparently violated

(14:12):
DIA's employee travel policy, which allows employees to add a
maximum of two business days onder their work trips. The
apparent intent of the rules to prevent employees from using
work trips as jumping off points for lengthy vacations, but
that's exactly what the chief of staff did. At the
conclusion of the conference on April ten. She then went

(14:33):
on to travel in Europe for about two weeks, not
returning on the taxpayer funded business class flight to Denver
until late April, well beyond the two day limit. The
CEO says, quote and I quote, I did not know
about the rule. Wait a minute, you write the EFFM
policies and now you claim that you didn't know about

(14:54):
the rule. He says, we'll deal with that accordingly. We'll
take care of this bull crap if you will. I
want the receipts, and Brian, I hope you'll go get
the receipts now. While the conference concluded on the afternoon
of April ten, the DA travelers except mar Lyndez, all
left on Friday, April eleven, headed back to Denver, giving
them the weekend to rest and recuperate, ask about upgrading

(15:16):
the first and business class on the way home, and
if that could have been done more economically, Washington simply said, quote,
the policy allows that, so we took advantage of that.
So the other five DIA executives round trip fares ranged
between nine to eleven thousand dollars each overall, though the

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CEO says the expenditure was in his view, well worthwhile
he says, these costs may seem high, but they are
an investment in our people. Well, okay, then never you
know what, never.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Mind, this really feels a lot like giving politicians the
ability to vote on their own raises. Well, the policy
is we can give ourselves a rate raise when we
vote on it.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
So we voted on.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
It and we gave ourselves a right.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yes, that's special. What it really feels like here, you know,
we need to go to management and say we need
to start writing them. You know, you and I dragon
should write the personnel policy for this company, because we
would write a damn good personnel policy and they just
be a bunch of a holes working here.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
You know.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
What a minute you mean there? What do you mean
there would be a bunch of a holes working here?

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Well, now it's just a majority, okay, because I was thinking,
wait a minute, at least in at least within my visual.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
As I look around visually, all I see are a
old He said, what they learned at the conference will
defray future costs and end up saving money. Quote. I
have this lit ceo. Man, this guy can lie. This
guy really should run for Congress. This guy should really
run for mayor. This guy should really run for governor.

(16:55):
I have no reservations about what we picked up there.
What woud you pick up genea penicula? Shop for it?
What'd you pick up while we were there? I have
no reservations about what we picked up there, because the
doctor told us what we picked up there. I think
it was a great investment for the Rocky Mountain region,
the city of Denver, d Ia, and the National Airspace.

(17:17):
God only was it good for Denver, it was good
for the entire country. They solved all the problems in
Newarkway whether they were there. The funding trip comes from
DA revenues, which are derived from what passenger pay for concessions,
parking fees, rental car revenues, and other user fees. So yes, indeed,
once again it proves my point we paid for it

(17:38):
while Washington he says, defended the class of travel and
trip costs. He said, quote, we always review and re
examine all our policies. We'll take a look at this one.
If it makes sense to revise that, we will do that.
Any baby, any think Betts, you're gonna get a pool
going to put You mean, think any bets whether the
policy gets changed if you think that it will go

(18:00):
back to bed, because you just might be an idiot.
Good morning, MICHAELM. Dragon.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
Just wondering what your thoughts are if we're ever going
to get out of this fiscal hole that the country's in.
And despite those since the GOP can't even seem to
get rid of the Inflation and Reduction Act, must less Obamacare,
I have a feeling that the odds of the US
coming out of this okay is about like pulling an

(18:40):
inside straight flush.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, that's on my list for tomorrow. I don't think
i'll get it to get to it today. But Congress
failed to pass threecisions which all the cuts. Yeah, oh
they you know, they held hearings like that, talked to
Musk and everybody came out and talked on the television
shows about how great the you know, the cuts were

(19:04):
and they were identifying all this waste fraud abuse. Now okay,
well here's a bill you can cut that out. Now, No,
we don't want to do that. We don't want to
do that. You may recall that Gared Poulis and the Democrats,
the communists. But I repeat myself at the Colorado POLLEP
Bureau want the state of Colorado to cut our carbon emissions,

(19:26):
our CO two E missions by half within the next
five years, by twenty thirty, which is obviously going to
cost us a lot. Well, it's already costing us a lot.
Here's another story that I just I mean, I don't
get me wrong. I understand the story, and I understand

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that this pipe dream is all about pursuing the falsehood
of climate change and believing that decarbonization is some how
going to save us from some apocalypse. It's just around
the corner that we keep being told like every decade.
It's just around the corner. It's a company. It involves you.

(20:12):
I know you don't think it does, but it involves
you and a company up in Boulder. This company in
Boulder is called Electro Steel Ink. I don't know anything
about this company except what the news articles tell me
about it. They've apparently patented a method to take most
of the carbon emissions out of the manufacturing of iron

(20:37):
and steel making. Okay, well, congratulations. The story says that
the patent in process produces in quotes clean in dust,
which which means it's not really totally clean, but you
know it's clean compared to whatever their baseline is. The
patentent process produces clean industrial iron at the temperature of

(20:57):
a cup of coffee other than the twelve hundred degree
fahrenheit furnaces traditionally used in iron and steel making. Well,
I guess that's unless you get your coffee out of
McDonald's in New Mexico, where you make what eight ten
million dollars whatever it was in that case. Currently they

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employ about one hundred and thirty people. They use an
electro chemical process, and they hope, they hope to cut
thirty percent or more of the carbon emissions from traditional production.
The CEO an Indian name which I will not even
try to pronounce. We found an electra here in Colorado

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to decarbonize a carbon heavy industrial process and were honored
to be the inaugural recipient of what the inaugural recipient
of what, Oh, a state industrial tax credit. Yes, now
you know what a tax credit is, right, a tax credit?

(22:04):
What is a tax credit? Think about it? That's what
you think about it for a while. The new plant is
in Jeffco. It's planned for opening next year. It will
still be it's not a full fledged plant. It's a
demo plant. A demonstration scale facility means that it's not

(22:28):
really I don't even know if it's scalable or not.
It's a you might call it a prototype. But they claim,
according to the story, that they will steeply ramp up
production from the Boulder Research Pilot facility that produces about
one hundred metric tons of clean iron plates every year.

(22:49):
Now here's what drives me crazy. This is obviously a
startup company. But they've gone through, at least it appears
to me I've done. I didn't do a deep research
into it, but they've obviously gone through some of their
initial angel funding and they've gotten around to completing a

(23:10):
capital fundraising of one hundred and eighty six million dollars,
and that one hundred eighty six million dollars, according to
the news story, is to build the plant. Now, what
I haven't told you is the state Industrial tax credit
is in the amount of eight million dollars eight million dollars.

(23:34):
So you're telling me so this this wey does not
address this question at all. But you're telling me that
you were able to go out and find some savvy
investors that looked at what you were doing, looked at
your business plan, they did all of their due diligence
and said, yes, we're willing to put our money at

(23:54):
risk for a proto type which may or may not
be scalable. The investors must think it's scalable, or maybe
they think that they'll develop enough that they will make
it scalable that they are willing to put at risk
one hundred and eighty six million dollars. Now that's a

(24:16):
fairly hefty amount of money. I'm you know, eight million
dollars too, it's a hefty amount of money. Now here's
the question I have if these savvy investors, well, let
me back up, if there's truly a pressing demand for decarbonization,
wouldn't savvy investors be lining up to fund these ventures

(24:39):
without your help? Because that's what a tax credit is.
The tax credit means that they get a credit against
their tax whatever their taxes are, they get a credit
for that. So they get you know, if they if
they owe eight million dollars, they get an eight billion
dollar tax credit, they won't pay any taxes. That's eight

(25:00):
million dollars less that Colorado will have in an already
financially fiscally strapped state, which means that'll look to you
for months for that age. You know, you'll need to
make up that eight million dollars. They're just passing out
tax credits. But I have a really stupid question. If

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you were able to raise one hundred and eighty six
million dollars, you're telling me you couldn't. It's not even
ten percent. It's actually not even fifty percent. You can
add an additional eight million dollars from private investors instead
of taking a industrial tax credit from the taxpayers of

(25:45):
Colorado to finish your plant. So that's my question to
the company. My question to the governor, which, by the way,
is kind of interesting because the picture that comes along
with his story is soon to be hopes to be
Governor Michael Bennett, the formerly accidental senator US Senator from Colorado,

(26:08):
who is ooh, peering into a computer screen looking at
it oh, and Joe Nogose, the congressman from Boulder, as
they stand there and they look and thinking, oh, this
is a great photo op, and we'll give an industrial
tax credit. Well, wait, where's the governor? Governor, I'm kind

(26:31):
of curious, why are you not in the photo? Why
if they talk about you, we're members of the state legislature.
Why do we have these federal members there? Why do
we have members of the Congressional delegation there? And we
don't have members from the Governor's office or the state
Economic Development Commission or anybody else that would be involved
in an eight million dollars state industrial tax credit? Where

(26:52):
are you hiding? Are you afraid of something? Why? So
to the company, I want to know, if you could
raise one hundred and eighty six million dollars, why couldn't
you raise one hundred ninety four million dollars? Are you
really trying to convince me that you couldn't find an
additional eight million dollars and instead you're going to soak

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the taxpayers the state of Colorado for that eight million dollars?
And then I'm curious, Governor, you talked about how desperately
the state is looking for money, and you're trying to
steal tabor tax refunds, you're trying to increase taxes. You're
and you can't increase taxes, so you increase fees, and

(27:33):
so you hand out an eight million dollar state industrial
tax credit. What's up with that? Everywhere you turn, everywhere
you turn, whether it's DIA spending tens of thousands of
dollars on first class tickets to go to a today
conference and then somebody using those expensive first class tickets

(27:53):
to then take a tour of Europe for two weeks
in violation of policy, and you spend the money on
the tickets because the policy that you wrote says you
can do it. Wow. You know, I kind of feel
like an idiot. I need to go out and just
come up with some stupid, you know, dumbass, you know,
fraudulent idea of you know whatever, and get a state
industrial tax credit so I can quit pay my state

(28:16):
income taxes. Whatever my state income taxes were, I just
get a credit for it instead. Huh. Wow. I guess
it's good to be a part of the beautiful people.
Maybe I need to figure out a way to decarbonize myself.
If you look around, you see a bunch of a
holes at work.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
I suggest you get the address code policy grevised so
that pants are required.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
And somebody wanted if we were recruiting a holes. They
raised their hand and said they wanted to. They wanted
to volunteer, but they don't expect reliability. So adding all
of this up together, it's not just here, it's in
all these Democrat run cities. Before the fundamental transfer information

(29:00):
of this country is complete, I think. I think our
demographics are gonna the country's demographics at large are going
to resemble that of Democrat dominated larger cities like Denver
or take, for example, Kansas City. Take Quinton Lewis, the
mayor of Kansas City, the Democrat mayor of a city
where locals feared to step outside after eight pm, said

(29:23):
he was too busy to meet with them because he
was off to see Supreme Court Justice Katanji Brown Jackson. Quote.
If we want to talk more about public safety, I've
got Ktanji Brown Jackson go see at four o'clock. I'd
like to be there and get through security. That's what
he said to the Fox affiliate in Kansas City when
asked about public safety concerns. Oh I got to go
see the Associate Justice. I don't have time to talking

(29:44):
about public safety. You see, governing is always about priorities,
because when you're when your city's on fire, when your
city city's crime ridden, like Denver or the entire state
of Colorado, who could pass up with the cams to
meet with, you know, a budding Broadway star like Donkie
Brown Jackson. You see, downtown Downtown Kansas City has become

(30:05):
a hotspot for things like illegal street racing, reckless atv
and dirt bike riders tearing through neighborhoods. Neighborhoods, chaos that
escalated last month when a cop was hit by an ATV.
The dystopian scenes are reminiscent of I don't know, a
Mad Max movie, which saw a road warrior played by
Mel Gibson terrorized by post apocalyptic gangs riding motorbikes and

(30:29):
ATVs across the Australian desert. Well sounds kind of a
little bit like Colorado, doesn't It sounds a little bit
like Colfax Avenue. How easy can it be to strip
people of constitutional rights so long as these dumbasses, these
Marxists that pretend to be Democrats are running things. Here's

(30:54):
the Kansas City mayor.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
Mayor Lucas says he's concerned that under Missouri state law, well,
people convicted of domestic violence misdemeanors are still allowed to
have a gun.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Interesting. There's been a domestic violence loophole and Missouri law
for years now. The saving grace alone.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Was that there was a federal law that a police
officer could say they're violating.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Now that we lose that, what does this mean for
so many in Missouri, so many survivors of domestic violence.
I hope it doesn't make them victims.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
Since twenty seventeen, the FBI has identified seven hundred and
forty four people in Missouri convicted of a domestic violence
misdemeanor who then broke federal law and they tried to
buy a gun. According to the ATF, local law enforcement
was key to investigating these cases on the ground in Missouri.
If those same officers helped the ATF with cases like

(31:50):
that today, they would be breaking state law.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Taylor's former favorite CBS news anchor, nor O'Donnell no longer
the CBS Evening News once again an example of let's
take away the rights of law abiding citizens to protect themselves.
Let's take away the money of law abiding, tax paying citizens,
so we can fly to Spain for a conference and

(32:16):
then do a two week trip to Europe. All of
you that listen, Well, I shouldn't say all of you
because that's too generalization, because I'm sure I could find
exceptions to the rule. But you get it, you actually
get it. Ninety seven ninety eight Alexa rights Michael. They

(32:36):
could have done the conference via video call to save
over one hundred and sixty five thousand dollars for all
of it for three days in Madrid plus two likely
business days not working. Interesting and I hadn't thought about this,
but interesting that he did the interview with Brian Moss
on a zoom call. Yeah, he can fly all the
way to Madrid and fly first class at for his

(32:58):
ticket that what was it, twelve fifteen The other tickets
were like nineteen thousand dollars. He can do that. But
when it comes to talking to a local CBS investigative reporter,
one of the best in the country, Brian Moss, I
think I'll do that on a zoom call. I don't
have time for you to come out here, And I say,
because I don't want you to come into my office
and see the elaborate because I've been in those offices,

(33:20):
the elaborate offices for all the muckety mugs out of Dia. Yeah,
I've been in them. They're pretty damn nice. Let's just
do it via zoom. But that way I can just
be tuban or just wear my Bermuda shorts. Welcome to
Commie Colorado.