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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Michael, I don't know how far any prosecution Comy
would go. All he's going to do is say I
meant to get him impeached. Gives him enough plausible deniability
to make that.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
A tough prosecution to make.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Regarding the little dirt bag baby driver, substitute jeep for
nine to milimeter and then try to use the excuse
from the US citizen mom that he didn't have permission
to have the gun.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I didn't know he had the gun. How would that go?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I don't think Mom was a US citizen to start off, though, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Don't think Mom just said neither. But let's just go
to the first thing about eighty six forty seven. I'm
not asking for Comy to be prosecuted. I just think
it's an example of how blatantly one he lies. Now
again just relying on the I'm about to say something
least stupid dragon, relying on the honesty of the goobers.
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Would they text me something it's accurate and factually correct.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Well, it leans more one way than the other, but
both are there?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
They one goober, I don't have a message line in
front of me right there. Second says that this is
not the first time that James Comy has posted photos
of seashells on the seashore, arranged in a particular manner
to say something or.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Indicate something that may or may not be true.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
What I find fascinating is that a former federal prosecutor
involved in organized crime takes a photograph. Whether he arranged
the rocks and the shells or not, I don't know.
I don't care. He took the photograph, posted it to
his Instagram account, and some you know, some comment, I mean, well,
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you can't see the post. All you can see is
he deleted that one and then put up Hey, I've
been told that this may have a meaning other than
I mean, I didn't know what it means, and it
might have some other meaning that may not be you know, good,
and so I decided to take down the post.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Now I just don't believe you.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I just I just don't believe that any federal prosecutor,
particularly when it is a president who's had numerous assassination
attempts and the former FBI director, the former federal prosecutor,
I think he was in the Southern District at New York,
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of all places, so he would be dealing with organized
crime is like, look at these funny rocks. It's kind
of funny. Something about eighty six forty seven. I don't
know if they go, oh, they oh, just put this
on my Instagram account and then he gets attacked and
then he takes it down. I go back to if
you honestly believe that eighty six meant just hey, get
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Trump out of office, or maybe forty seven represent something
other than, you know, the forty seventh president of the
United States of America, then just be honest and say that.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
But he can't. He had to delete it and then
make up a lame excuse. The rule of holes.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
When you're digging yourself a hole, well, when other people
are digging a hole, len't just keep digging it. But if
you're the one digging, stop digging. Let's think about we
haven't talked about Jews in a long time, so let's
pick on jus for a while, and let's pick on
Harvard University Jewish under Here are five factoids about Jews
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and Harvard. Jewish undergraduate enrollment at Harvard decline from twenty
five percent to five percent in less than twenty years,
according to the report that has this This is a
larger decline than when Harvard had openly instituted a Jewish
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quota in the nine eighteen twenties. Wow, I thought affirmative
action was all about quotas well. They reduced their quota
from twenty five percent to five percent. I wonder why.
The second little fact tooint there was a recently recently
released report on anti Semitism at Harvard, and that report
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revealed that, according to Maya Sulkan doing the reporting, that
nearly sixty percent of Jewish students at Harvard said they
had experienced discrimination, stereotyping, or negative bias on campus due
to their views on current events. The report went on
to say that seventy three percent of Jewish students expressed
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discomfort sharing their political opinions, seventy five percent believed that
there is an academic or professional penalty for expressing Jewish
views at Harvard actually should say, for expressing their views
as opposed.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
To a Jewish view.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
This is Harvard, the you know, the so called epitome
of higher education in this country, and your percentage of
Jewish enrollment declines from twenty five to five percent. And
then of those five percent, nearly three quarters of them
say they're very uncomfortable about expressing their political opinions, and
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they and that fully three fourths of them do believe
that there is a penalty for expressing your views. Those
are pretty damning statistics. But then, according to the FBI's
twenty twenty three hate crime statistics, sixty eight percent of
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all religion based hate crimes were committed against Jews.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Well what about those Muslims.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Oh, The FBI's report says that of all religion based
hate crimes, less than nine percent against Muslims, so more
than two thirds against Jews and less than ten percent
against Muslims. And concurrently with its report on anti Semitism
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published by Harvard, the university put out a report on Islamophobia,
which itself singles out donors as a problem. Read Jewish
donors is what they really mean, But it did not
mention it all Arab funding like from Tar, which runs
in the hundreds of millions of dollars. So here's that
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reporter's take on releasing the Islamophobia report at the same
time as they release the one on anti Semitism. She writes,
just to set the table, any type of any type
of religious or political discrimination or bigotry should be stopped
and condemned, of course, But to release these statements tandem,
as if these two groups have experienced the same thing
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over the past two years, let alone eight hundred years,
is completely absurd, she says. And I think it demonstrates
how deeply Harvard is frankly in denial or unclear about
their anti semitism problem. Even if you read their report
side by side, she says, which I'm sure only freaks
like me are doing. Their recommendations sections are completely at
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odds with each other. The Anti Semitism Report suggests that
the definition of anti Semitism for basically behavioral proceedings. The
Islamophobia Report says that the definition of anti Semitism just
simply limits speech. The list goes on here. The Islamiphobia
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Report mentions Jewish donors and how they influence policies. But
there's not if you command five. In other words, if
you do a word search, the word cutter tar in
the Anti Semitism Report does not even come up. So
all the Jewish donors show up, but any Islamic donors
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do not show up, she continued, Releasing them in tandem
is the entire problem actually there was a.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Quote in there that said it was.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
An introduction to the of the Islamophobia Report that basically
said anti Semitism has permeated everything so much that you
can't even voice pro Palasinian beliefs without being punished. I
don't even understand, she says, how that was printed and published,
because if you look at what's happened on Harvard's campus
in the past two years alone, there are Palasinium protests
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every single day, kids are getting spit on for wearing kafias,
and every single and wearing their keepers, and every single
person is wearing a cafia.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
It's unbelievable. It's really unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Now.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I think we've talked on numerous Acassians about anti Semitism
and how it's begun unbelievably rampant in this country. And
if you went into point at a beginning date for
the explosion of anti Semitism, I guess it would have
to be October seven, because under Biden, Jewish hatred was
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you know, honestly, for the most part, it was just tolerated.
But from the very inception of the Trump administration, it
appeared it appeared that the good times were over. For
the Jewish haters that were on all these campuses, except
that the backlash has been strong and the defense of
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the right to intimidate, attack, and vilified Jews has been
really aggressive. Then there's this growing problem of anti Semitism
on the right, which preoccupies Team Trump, but far less
it's some of it's still there. But let's just stick
with the universities for a moment. Columbia University has made
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some accommodations with the Trump administration's demands. They, as you
may recall, they recently arrested participants in that effort to
occupy one of the buildings. But Harvard is not. Harvard
is for the most part, impertinent and like this reporter,
like many reporters actually. But even though she points out
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the obvious what's going on at Harvard, she bemoans the
slashing of US government grants to Harvard and to any
other university for that matter, who are disinclined to extend
civil rights protections to Jews. And that is precisely what's
going on here. We're not extending civil rights protections to
Jews on college campuses. You take researchers at places like Harvard,
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Johns Hopkins rarely at the forefront of antisemitic protests, which
tend to be the more exclusive purview of gender studies departments,
and you know, some similar kind of bull crap. So
here's the issue. Harvard boasts and endowment of more than
fifty three billion dollars. Fifty three billion dollars, So what
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exactly is the taxpayer? What are you and I as
taxpayers doing subsidizing that university even for that matter, subsidizing
their valuable scientific research. Ask yourself, why are we subsidizing?
Or take a harder question, why is it worth it
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to Harvard and for that matter, some of these other
college campuses to why is it worth it to sacrifice
all of the government money in order to continue to
pursue anti semitic policies. Have you thought about in that
context their fight. First of all, you have to start
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with the premise, which I believe is a valid premise
that Harvard and to some degree all these other universities,
I'm going to love them all together, but they're not
all doing it. Are engaged in anti Semitic behavior, institutionalized
anti semitic behavior, and they're not only protecting it. In
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many cases, they're encouraging it, and then comes along the
Trump administration and says, you know you're violating Title nine,
you're actually engaged in discrimination. So we're going to cut
off the research grounds. And instead of saying, oh, we'll
fix our anti Semitic problem, Harvard says, no, we're going
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to fight you because we want to continue to engage
in anti Semitic behavior and we want taxpayers money. So
here's what the here's what you and I have to face.
Choosing to fight the federal government is a choice. Is
Trump asking too much?
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Here?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Is is he treading where no government should tread?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Some of you might think yes, And I think there
really are some valid questions as to whether he should
be threatening Harvard's five O one C three status, just
as I question, you know, the denial five O one
C three status to some of those conservative groups that
Lois Learner was engaged in. But nonetheless, it seems clear
to me that it's more important to Harvard to allow
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to continue and to participate in anti Jewish discrimination than
it is to actually crack down on their faculty and students,
and they stop it. Universities are going to argue that
they're protecting their independence. From the Fens. Well, okay, maybe,
but then ask yourself this question. If we were talking
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about protecting black students, would their reaction be the same
if we were talking about protecting latinos wit you know
the answer, and that leads to the mostly unspoken Yet
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I think manifests reality. The Harvard's, the Stanford's, the Yales.
I would include Columbia, but maybe they're beginning to back
off that a century ago decided to deal with what
the then Harvard president called the Jewish problem. Have almost
exactly all of those universities have almost exactly the same
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pseudo dei driven antisemitic policies in place today as when
Harvard presidents. Harvard president once said We've got a Jewish problem,
so as Jewish students and their families all knew too
well for decades, preferential admissions have sought to exclude you
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and other high performers Indians dot not feather Asians. There
is no discussion of institutional anti Semitism that should be
finished or complete without a word for the growing cadre
of right wing anti Semites who now populate the podcast
in the alternate media space. And I'm not trying to
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draw equivalents between two sides. Rather, it is to note
that the Trump administration's efforts seem to me to fall
flat when the only anti Semitism it seems to loathe
is anti Semitism that comes from the left. We have
in our midst right wing jew haters, and they have
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increasingly gotten sway inside this administration. The sudden return of
the expression neo con to describe those nominally anesthetical to
the President's of America First agenda is kind of a
dog whistle to the nick Flantes of the world. The
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claim that Trump is weaponizing anti Semitism might actually be
an overreach. But what bugs me in this whole issue
of anti Semitism is that we're very quick to denounce
it on the campuses. But you know, as I mentioned
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when we were talking about the the illegal alien kid
that killed the girl here in Colorado, if you notice,
when you start digging through the media as much as
I do, you'll find little bits of anti submittic, little tropes,
little statements here and there. None by Trump, don't get
me wrong, Absolutely none by Trump. Trump is an absolute science.
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In my opinion, Trump is a full throated supporter of
Israel In the Jewish State, and for that matter, not
in Yahoo. And for those who think that because he
did not go to Israel on this trip is somehow
slapped to net Yahoo, I think is just wrong. I
think he and Natan Yah who probably had in depth
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conversations about exactly what he was going to be doing
on this trip, and there is in behind closed doors
there is an agreement that he was going to go
do these things net y'all who, not that he needs
net y'all who's approval, but neat Yaw, who fully understood
what he was doing, understands that it's all in the
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longer game of getting the Abraham Accords in place so
that what Israel can actually maybe exist in peace for
a while.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
And never he has told, for example.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
The Iranians, you will not get a nuclear weapon or
there will be hell to pay. Now he's trying to
do it diplomatically. He's trying to do with economic sanction.
But you know, he's never once said that he is
told or somehow intimated to net and Yahoo that if you.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Need to bomb them, he can bomb them. I'm not
gonna get a new work.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
But there are people within the wife house that do
seem to be kind of acting a little anti submitic,
and we all to stop and pause and say it's
wrong them both.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
So morning, Michael and Dragon could be your favorite Jew grouper.
Thank you from being in this attention.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Why are the question?
Speaker 6 (18:31):
I am Russian? Why is it racist for like black
people or Mexicans or whatever others? But for Juice it's
anti semi semantic or anti semi's a wife, have a
good day.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
I can't understand the question.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I assume his biggest concern is to why is it
the why all the jew hate that way? Versus why
wouldn't we Would we be as unoutraged if it were.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Racism toward blacks or whatever? Yeah, that's that's my whole point.
I don't That's why I asked. I asked the question
I had specifically in my notes. What if the tables
were turned and all of this activity going on college
campuses was was against blacks, latinos Asians or I don't know, gays,
or Presbyterians or.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
You know whatever. It's historical.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Historically, for any number of reasons, Jews have been on
the receiving end of this hatred goes way way, I
mean thousands of years back what I don't understand though,
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is and maybe it's just in radical islamis DNA. Maybe
it's just in ignorant people's DNA, because I'm one of
those who while I can read about and understand bigotry
in America against blacks, against Asians, I mean, you really
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understand what FDR did with the Japanese in tournament cams.
I mean that truly was racist, all couched in, you know,
clothed in national security reasons, but it really was just.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
An adult ray of racism.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
So I understand that people are biggots, but it seems
that not wholly, not completely, not one hundred percent. But
I think the vast majority of Americans. I can't speak
for other nations. I'm only speaking for this country, and
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I can't evenly speak for this country. I'm speaking from
my personal experience, but the majority of people that I
deal with on a day to day basis professionally, personally, socially,
how what, whatever, simply are not racist. We just don't care. Now,
whether that means we're more enlightened than somebody else or not,
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I don't know. I just think that I just don't
see people as their skin color or their religion or
anything else. I just, I just honestly just don't give
a ratsass. But when it comes to Jews, that still
seems to be dominated, but it seems to be mostly
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dominated within academia, and I just I guess I'd have
to confess I just haven't studied enough to figure out
what's the source and why is that. Bobby Kennedy Junior
was Secretary. Kennedy was testifying, and Ben and Jerry's co
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founder Ben Cohen was arrested speaking of during a pro
Palestinian protest inside the US capital. Now Cohen and six
other protesters were involved. Happened during a Senate committee hearing
has happened on Wednesday. Cohen shouted at Kennedy, you're killing
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poor kids in Gaza and paying for it by cutting
medicaid for kids. Here, can someone explain that one to me? First,
We're not cutting medicaid for kids here. We are trying
to cut medicaid for illegal aliens, non citizens. So if
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you wanted to just make a generic statement that cutting
medicaid for anybody is somehow cutting medicaid, okay, then all right,
then make that semantical, art semanic argument. But I disagree
with it because cutting Medicaid for kids here implies that
we're cutting it for kids who are entitled to it.
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And I do not believe that illegal aliens are entitled
to these benefits, never have. I don't care what the
law says, I don't care what politicians say. It is
my firm belief that if you're in this country illegally,
you're not entitled to taxpayer benefits. You might be entitled
to do process. You know, if you that kid that
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killed that girl, he was entitled to do process because
he committed a crime on American soil. But I don't
get that he's entitled to any sort of social safety
net benefits just because you sneaked into the country with
your mom and your hair illegally. I just don't get it.
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But that's not what everybody thinks. That's just what I think.
But explain to me how we're killing poor kids in
Gaza and we're paying for the killing of poor kids
in Gaza by cutting medicaid for illegal aliens here. Because
that's what Ben Cohen thinks. I would say, don't buy
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any Ben and Jerry's ice cream, But they don't own
Ben and Jerry's ice cream anymore, So don't worry about that.
So this was on a hearing designed to find out
his plans, Kennedy's plans to downsize HHS. So Cohen, seventy
four year old hippie, stands up and criticizes what he
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describes as US government policies contributing to the death of
these kids in Gaza. So he got detained along with
six other demonstrators. They're facing charges of resisting arrest, assaulting officers.
And then after the incident was over, Cohen shared a
video of the protests on social media X and other places, saying,
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I told Congress they're killing poor kids in Gaza by
buying bombs, and they're paying for the ball by kicking
poor kids off Medicaid in the United States. And this
was the authority's response. Wow, that's some sort of convoluted logic.
I'm fascinating by that kind of logic.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Permitted while the connectic conducts is business, capitol.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Police are as to the individuals the hearing room down
the hallway, man, why are you getting arrested.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Down the hall will be arrested poor kits and gossip
by buying bombs and pays for it.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
By kicking getting off medicaid and you.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Weren't going to be starving in Gaza.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
Seen everybody, everybody, what are you.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Calling for that Congress and thank you forgotten.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
They need to let food, They need to let food.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Wait, hang on, hang on, Ben who needs to let
food into Gaza? Hamas does. We've tried and tried and tried.
We have spent billions of dollars trying to get food
into Gaza.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Remember that floating peer?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Oh how much that? And that peer lasted less than
twenty days or something.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
And every single bit of it confirmed by.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
The government saying that.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, it was all stolen, stolen by Hamas Harmas.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
But there's something else about this whole kerfuffle. How I know,
There's always been protests, and part of me thinks that
we just see more of them because as in this video,
everybody in the hallway does what They pull out their
iPhone or they're android and they start videoing everything, and
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the port give Us Capitol police are just trying to
get this guy down the hallway so they can take
him downstairs to the detention center in the Capitol and
you know, write out their report and then turn the
report over to the US attorney, where probably nothing will
ever happen and he'll just be released and that'll be
the end of it. Or they might even just give
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him like a you know, like the equivalent of speeding
ticket and say here, you can pay seventy five dollars
and we'll.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Just let you go.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
But why and am I am? I just is my
perception skewed? But why is it? We can't have hearings anymore?
I mean, even during the Biden administration, we can't seem
to even have a hearing without people disrupting, without people
shouting up and screaming. You know, I actually felt very
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I truly felt sorry for Bobby Kennedy Junior. I mean,
here's a guy whose family has suffered enough death as
it is. And the minute Ben Cohen jumps up and
starts screaming you should see me, Bobby Kennedy literally jumps
and turns around. I don't blame him, And of course
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they gavel the room to order and everybody stands up
and the cops are trying to get him out, and
I'm just watching this and I'm thinking, how many times
do I see this? It's and don't get me wrong,
they have a write a free speech, but they don't
have the right. Whether it's the city council meeting. We've
had the stories about where it was, oh, Aurora was
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going to change their rules about you know, only one
person at the podium, you can only speak for you know,
sixty seconds or whatever it is. And you know, the
cops are too busy, they're watching the crowd. I mean,
so we've got cops and city council chambers, which is fine,
I understand that, but we're we can't even have a
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city council meeting, we can't have a congressional hearing. Since
when did we reach the point where we thought it
was okay to do this? And why is it always
the left? Because I don't really hear or have any
stories about the right. You know, a bunch of you know,
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anti abortion protesters stood up and screamed up members of Congress.
Whether they're holding hearing on funding HHS or funding CDC
or whatever the hell they're nih whatever they're going to fund.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I just on the heer it.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
I think it shows that whether it's stick with me,
whether it's congressional hearings, city council hearings, whether it's you know,
random shootings or just people, or it's road rage, whatever
it might be. It just seems that society itself is collapsing.
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Society itself is just reaching the point where nobody taller.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
It's anything.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
I'll give you a dragon, give me time. Here, give
you a real quick example. Dragon left on my desk.
Popeye's manager shot coworker over burned biscuits. So there was
a witness in the Popeye is this isn't Charlotte. And
the biscuits come out burned or something, and the boss,
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you know, challenges the employee. The employee kind of fights back.
They start, they get into a scuffle. They take the
scuffle outside, and the manager's ploy pulls a handgun and
kills the employee. I think it killed him. Maybe it
didn't kill him yet, Yeah, has not has not died yet,
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shotting twice point blank. Really, that's how we that's how
we behave Now. That's called regression. That's not progress. That's
not progress at all. We're regressing.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Michael ben Cohen, another self loathing, super progressive Jewish guy
who supports evil doers like come off, dear, be surprised.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
I can't get through the entire email, but a friend
of mine sent me an email. I don't think she
minds me sharing part of what she wrote, and it
has to do with this election of Amy Patten in
a rapah Hole County. And she gives a little bit
of history. I couldn't think of the number of the
judicial district that George Brockler now serves in, and it's
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the twenty third and the eighteenth is still a rapa Hole,
but it's been redrawn and it is now just solely
a rapah Hole County. And she writes, a rapah Hole
County is now solidly blue, so much so that a
Republican candidate for district attorney stands virtually no chance unless
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they have some sort of broad bipartisan appeal. The candidate
who won, Amy Patten, was backed by national figures like
George Soros, which says a lot about the political wins here.
They tried to get Carol Chambers, who's a former DA
from that district, to run, and she didn't want to,
but they kind of she got nominated from the floor.
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She ended up running, but of course she did not win.
She writes, I've lived in a Rapahole County since nineteen
ninety four. Back then not a single Democrat held office.
It is not hard to overstate how much Rappahole County
has changed. That day at the convention, I nominate Carrol
Chambers from the floor. Blah blah blah. Let's see, we
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now live, We now live at the consequences of the change.
A twenty four year old woman lost her life. Her
and her family story is lost in the turn of
political decisions in public apathy. The person responsible was an
undocumented illegal minor, and yet there seems to be no
real accountability. That accountability goes across many people and government
layers that to me is unaccepted. I hold many people
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accountable for what's happened. Obviously, Amy Patten for her policies
and her decisions, the voters of a Rapahole County for
their disengagement, both political parties for failing to lead at
all levels, national and local, and the larger force of
apathy that drowns out outrage and action. People don't get involved,
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don't even understand how their vote can change the direction
of a person's life, the life of a twenty four
year old My friend is exactly right. It's solidly blue,
and it's one more example of how that blue ink,
starting way back with the publication of the blueprint, starting
way back with Polis and Tim Gill and what's your name.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
The medical device laft anthey of her name right now.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
Once that blueprint, if you ever read it, you need
to go read it. Once they started implementing it, they
knew they could use apathy, they knew they could use
the quiet progression that progressives and Marxists use. And now
we see the consequences of it. And what I find
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fascinating about is I've talked about Douglas County, for example,
what ostensible the other maybe El Paso County could have
one time been considered one of the most conservative counties
in the entire state, as would have a Rappaho County.
But now that blue ink just kind of melts all
the way out of downtown Denver and just spreads out
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all across the state. And we are like California, not
that we will be, but that we are exactly as
bad as California.