5-24-25 The Weekend Hour 2: Remembering All Soldiers on Memorial Day

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
To night. Michael Brown joins me here the former FEMA director.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Talk show host Michael Brown. Brownie, no, Brownie, You're doing
a heck of a job the Weekend with Michael Brown.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome back to a Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to
have you with me. It is Memorial Day weekend, and
so we're doing something a little different this weekend than
we would normally do. We're focusing solely on Memorial Day.
It's meaning and what you and I can do to
make this holiday a memorable Memorial Days. It's as I

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said last hour, it's always difficult for me to say, hey,
have a great Memorial Day weekend or have a happy
Memorial Day weekend, because in our society, Memorial Day has
become the traditional start of summer. It has become that
weekend where we we think that it's the start of
the vacation season. And in fact I may do this

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later in the program. It becomes the weekend where there's
certain sales, oh my gosh, like things are always a
President's Day sale, there's always a Memorial Day sale, and
I always find that kind of little, well, are we
really going to do that on a solemn holiday like this?
So we were doing a kind of a I would say,

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kind of a walk through the history of Memorial Day
about what it really means and some of the highlights
and some of the turning points in the history of
this country that make Memorial Day a somber day of remembrance.

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I don't know in my research. I had never come
across this story before, and so for me this was
as exciting as as I hope that it is to you.
I hope it as moving to you as it was
to me. I never heard of this general, but the
general's name is Lucian Truscan t r U. S Cott

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Lucian Truscan. He was the commander of the US fifth
Armony Army. He gave one of the most moving Memorial
Day speeches ever given. But it's remembered not so much
for how he or what he said, but it's remembered

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for how he stood. Huh, what do you mean, Michael,
how he stood? He spoke at the sicily Rome American
Cemetery in Natuno, Italy, on Memorial Day in nineteen forty five.
So think about that date, nineteen forty five, So World

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War two we're done. He's in Italy at the Sicily
Rome American Cemetery. He stands to give his prepared remarks,
and he turned his back to the audience, and instead

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he spoke directly to the nearly twenty thousand American soldiers
that are buried at the Sicily Roman American Cemetery, and
he apologized to them for their deaths. Now imagine that.
Now imagine you're in Italy. You're in one of the

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absolute center points of World War II, Mussolini, all of
the fascism and everything that Europe has faced. And so
you go to the cemetery for this Memorial Day observance,
and this general stands up. I can just picture him now.
He stands, and he walks to the podium. He looks

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across at the audience, and then he turns around, turns
his back to the audience and apologizes to those buried
there for their deaths. At the time, there was a cartoonist,
Bill Malden, who was a cartoonist for the newspaper Stars

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and Stripes. It's now a website. You can go find
it Stars and Stripes. He had a reputation for ruthlessly
skewing hypocrisy, particularly among the generals. But Bill Malden called
that moment quote the most moving gesture that I had

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ever seen. So here we are, all these decades later,
and here I am talking about Memorial Day and wanting
to give you different examples. Well, I've been given this
task of doing three hours of talking about Memorial Day

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and what it means. And I came across the story
written by a gentleman by the name of Doyle Hodges,
and Doyle Hodges and telling the story worry about the
general and him turning his back says that you know,
fifty four years later, at the time he had written this,
I had the daunting task of writing a Memorial Day's
speech for my boss to deliver at that very same cemetery.

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Now that's pressure. If you know the history of that
cemetery and you know what General Trustcott did that day,
and now you have to give a speech to the
pressure's got to be annoymous. This gentleman says that my
boss at the time was the admiral who commanded the
US Joint Task Force that had been supporting the Kosovo

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bombing campaign. He says, have I attempted to suggest that
he tried to copy General Truscott's address to the fallen
A false gesture of the admiral would have ejected, probably
rejected out of hand anyway, the disparity and casualties would
have quickie pointed out the inadvisability of that approach, rather

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than thousands of dead to whom Trustcott spoke, eight day
bombing campaign in Kosovo cost the lives of two, not
almost twenty thousand, but two US service members. You remember
that he was the crew of an Apache helicopter who

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were actually killed in an accident during a training flight.
So this guy has to give that speech on that day,
and you have to think about You can't help but
think about it when you think about all the cemetery.
I think about Fort Logan, just north of where I
am in my studios in Denver. I think about Arlington
National Cemetery. I think about all of those, and what

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would I say were I to be required to give
a speech on Memorial Day in front of those. One
of the first things that I thought about came from
a personal experience at Arlington National Cemetery. One of my
jobs as the Undersecretary of Homeland Security had been to

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negotiate a new cooperative agreement between the United States and
at then just the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the Department
of Fulham's Homeland Security was still in its infancy, hadn't
really been stood up yet, but negotiate a new cooperative
agreement between the United States and our Russian counterparts. So

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I had spent a lot of time in Moscow and
Saint Petersburg, spent a lot of time in Russia, going
to different military installations, going to Kleningrad, where a lot
of the nuclear weaponry of the Soviet old Soviet Union
is still stockpiled. And so I'd gotten to know these
people that were in charge of Emmercom, which is the

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equivalent of our Department of Homeland Security, art equivalent of FEMA.
And ironically, the head of Immercom at the time was
a gentleman by the name of Sergoyi Choigu. Choigu is
currently Vladimir Putin's Russian Defense Minister. Yeah, the guy that's
in charge of the war in Ukraine. So I'd gotten

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to know this guy pretty well and one of his deputies,
and one of his deputies was an old general nikgb.
So in one of the trips back to this country,
choy Goo didn't come, but he sent this general, and
for the life of me, I can't remember this general's name.
But we were going to have dinner one day, and

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so we're loading up in with the security folks and
getting in the cars and headed to the restaurant. And
as we're driving through Washington, he can see Lee House
at Arlington National Cemetery and he asks, can we go there?
So I tell the driver, yes, let's go to Arlington.

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So we drive, we turn across, we go across the
Memorial Bridge, and we drive up to Arlington National Cemetery
and it's kind of misty, it's kind of cool and
rainy out, and so there are no crowds whatsoever. So
my security detail tells the guards that are at Arlington
who we are, what we're doing, and that we want

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to go to the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. So
we go to the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier and
we are of course, the Color Guard is there and
they're doing their thing, which you've never If you've never
seen it, you must go see this. But here I
am standing with this former general the KGB. As we

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look at those tombs, you can see the eternal flame
where John Kennedy is buried. You can see out over
there was just there's the cloud cover was just high
enough that you could see the Washington Monument, the Lincoln Memorial,
you could see off all across the National Mall. This
general turns to me and he goes, isn't it amazing

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that you and I can stand here as friends, as colleagues,
an honor those who fought these battles, sometimes together, sometimes
opposites of each other, but nonetheless our humanity, in his words,
our humanity brings us together to honor these who have

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died serving our countries. And I thought, wow, that's really amazing.
So we stood. Our timing was good. We got to
watch the changing of the guard, stood silently. There may
have been a dozen tourists there, so it's just me
and this general standing up close. And when they finished

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and he saluted and we turned to walk away, he
said to me, the next time you're a Moscow, I
want to take you to our tomb of the Unknown Soldiers.
And so I did. On my next trip to Moscow,
I met up with him, met up with Minister Shoygu,
and we went to their too, and I later wreathed
there and I tried to reciprocate the same words. That

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isn't it amazing that we can our two countries can
come together. We're negotiating an agreement on how to handle
disasters and other countries around the world that we might
partner up on, and that we can set aside our
differences to honor those who died in service of our
respective countries. And I laid the wreath there, said a

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short prayer to myself, a silent prayer, and then we
went off to dinner. But I'll never forget that moment.
And when I read this story a bit about General
Truskett and him turning his back at that national cemetery,
those stories instantly flash back in my mind, and I thought, Wow,

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this really is a solemn day, and this is a
solemn day for us to which will I know technically
will be Monday, but it is a solemn weekeed, and
it's time for us to recognize that, Yes, we take
this day to honor those who died on behalf of
our nation, but all other nations have men and women

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who died for their beliefs, for their creeds, died with
honor for their country, even at that time they were
mortal enemies of ours. We should honor first and foremost
those who died on our behalf to preserve freedom in
this country. But we should at least take a moment

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to recognize that there are those who died for other countries,
believing what they believe, and they gave the ultimate sacrifice,
most of which Americans will never be asked to do.
That's why Memorial Day to me is so solemn. I

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think a lot of Americans on Memorial Day really do
try to commemorate or remember something that they've never personally known.
Unfortunately I have. I had a cousin who died very
early on in the war in Iraq. Young cousin, twenty

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four years old, wanted to service country, wasn't in Iraq
more than three or four weeks when he's killed. The
historian Drew Gilpin Faust in his book This Republic of Suffered,
he talks about how the experience of Americans who lost

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loved ones in the Civil War really did shape American
attitudes and practices surrounding death, dying, and the responsibility of
us as the living to the memory of those who
died in the Civil War. One American in fifty one
in fifty died during that war, so the personal experience

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of loss was shared by nearly everybody. Now, since nine
to eleven, over seven thousand US Service person and Department
of Defense civilians have died in conflicts in Iraq, Afghanistan,
and in Syria, and using the most recent census numbers,

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that works out slightly less than one American not in
fifty but one American in fifty thousand. So I think
that on this day, when we think about Memorial Day,
it's kind of easy to feel overwhelmed in the face
of the grief that's been experienced by those like the

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mother of my cousin who died in Iraq. I don't
know how to comfort her other than to say that
I honor I honor what he did, I honored his sacrifice,
and I honor his willingness to go to battle for
our country because most Americans aren't. We have an all

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volunteer Army. People volunteer to join. So I think it
is easy for us to feel overwhelmed in the face
of the greed that's truly experienced, like my cousin's mom,
or the relative that you know their brothers or sisters

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or their mothers or aunts, uncles, dads, whatever it might be.
And I think it's especially true when we exalt military
service in this country. You know, we always we have this.
I had a producer on my radio program in Denver
for a long time, a young woman who served in
the Army now serves in the reserves, and I ask

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her one time about this thank you for your service
that we all want to do. And I'll tell you
what she said. After this break, you can text the
word Michael Michael to thirty three one zero three. Go
to the website, Michael says, go here dot com. My
producer's words about thank you for your service coming up next. Hey,

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welcome back to the Weekend with Michael Brown. Appreciate you
tuning in on this Memorial Day weekend. Be sure and
text the word Michael Michael to thirty three one zero
three real quickly. So I once asked my former producer
here in Denver, who was a member of the US
Army now member of the reserves, what's your take, Because
I think Americans sometimes we venerate the military so well

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that we're the loss for words. So we often walk
up to someone we see in a uniform and we
say thank you, for your service, and I said, so
what do you think about that? And a response really
stuck with me. It was, we actually do get kind
of tired of hearing it, because this is what we
signed up to do, and this is what we want

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to do, and we know that we're doing it for you.
So how about just as simple thank you? Because, particularly
if you're an uniform, you walk up on Veterans Day,
not Memorial Day because they're still alive, but nonetheless, you
walk up to anyone who's actually wearing the uniform and
just simply say thank you. You don't even have to

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do anything else just to thank you. It's those little
tiny gestures. Unlike what happened to Vietnam War veterans return,
they were spat upon, kicked around, vilified. Now I know
that may not be appropriate on a Memorial Day, but
again because Memorial Day is when we auto those who
gave the ultimate sacrifice. But nonetheless that's stuck with me

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because they do volunteer and they do do things that
you and I don't want to do, so we should
just say thank you sincerely. Veterans of modern American wars,
they don't face the type of rejection that they experienced
in Vietnam. Let's talk about that next. It's the Weekend
with Michael Brown. Text the word Michael, Michael to thirty

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three one oh three. Build the website, Michael says, go
here dot com. Let's talk about veterans of modern day
American wars even on this Memorial Day tonight, Michael Brown
joins me.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Here, the former FEMA director of talk show host Michael Brown. Brownie, no, Brownie,
You're doing a heck of a job.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
The Weekend with Michael Brown. Welcome back to the Weekend
with Michael Brown. On this Memorial Day weekend. It is
an unusual weekend because it's a again, it's the start
of the so called vacation season, and there's all sorts
of Memorial Day sales. It's the start of the summer.
There's also a very somber holiday. As I said earlier,

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the veterans of the modern American wars in the Middle East,
they really don't face the type of rejection or societal
blame that a lot of Vietnam veterans experience. Instead, the
praise that is now heaped and sold and veterans can
at times, I think, seem overwhelming. That's why when I
asked my producer about thank you for your service, her

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response really was just to say, thank you. That's really
good enough. You may disagree or agree. I'd be curious
what you think. But here's the problem. It's easy to
group Memorial Day in with all the other public rituals
of appreciation for those who served our country in uniform.

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Memorial Day is really supposed to be different. In eighteen
sixty five, in a speech to Yale alumna, the theologian
Horace Bushnell a speech called Our Obligations to the Dead.
Even though it was actually delivered on before the creation

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of Decoration Day, which became Memorial Day in eighteen sixty eight,
Bushnel's oration perfectly presages the themes of a lot of
subsequent Memorial Day's speeches, which in the next hour you're
going to hear from Ronald Reagan. The grand public motive.

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He talked about the grand public motive to which the
dead gave up their life. What is that grand public
motive to which the dead gave up their life? So
when Bushnell was giving this speech, he first argued that
the dead ought to be given their quote do share

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of the victory and the honors of victory. Well, you see.
For the theologian, victory for him was not understood solely
as a battlefield triumph. But victory for him was more
of the attainment of the moral good for which the
war had been fought. Think about them. Victory for him

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was not understood solely as a battlefield triumph, but more
so the attainment of the moral good for which that
war in which that person had died was fought. Now,
if you measured against that standard, in the effort to
valorize or to give meaning to the sacrifices of both
the Vietnam and modern American wars is probably more challenging

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than just giving away a medal and describing battlefield heroics. Now,
some American soldiers displayed great heroism, and US forces were rarely,
if ever defeated an individual battles. The strategic success, though,
and the moral meaning of those wars is and I

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think uncomfortably but rightfully so contested. And I think that again,
while those soldiers that fought in all of those wars
really did display great heroism, a lot of Americans feel
ambiguous about those modern wars Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Syria, wherever

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we're engaged in battle. I think Americans really do feel ambiguous.
Sometimes we ask what are we fighting for? So how
do you find personal meaning on Memorial Day? As I
told you in the beginning of this segment, the beginning
of this hour, that I find it in that moment

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with that Russian general, a former kgbhent standing an hour
tomb of the unknown soldier. I've been to Arlington National Cemetery.
I don't I don't see, don't have many times anytime
that I was the undersecretary and I had family or
friends come to visit. That was among the stops that

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we always made because there is something about that place
where those soldiers are in tune in all those wars,
every single one of them. And you stand and you
watch that color guard in such strict, coordinated, controlled fashion

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guard those tombes through wind and hail and rain storms,
sleet everything. I think about what they do. They do
it day in and day out. And there I am

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standing with that former KGB agent and a general and
we are both in commonalty honoring those and then I
start thinking about obviously my father, for example, my father
served in the Korean War. I don't remember much at all, now,
he did not die. He died in natural causes later

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in life. But during my lifetime, during his lifetime, he
never really spoke about anything that he did during that war.
And to this day he's been dead many many years more,
I have really no idea what he did. All I
have are Kodak thirty five millimeters slut that he took

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while he was stationed in Korea, and I oftentimes you
can find some of those on my Instagram account at
Michael D. Brown. But oftentimes I will look at those,
and I'll look at my dad, and I'll look at
his friends and his fellow soldiers, and I'll wonder to myself,
if I only knew what they did, if I only

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knew what they were up to, what did they see?
What changed their lives by doing that service? So finding
personal meaning a Memorial day here would be my challenge
to you. How about finding a family that has served someone?

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Now they may not want to do it, but the
worst thing that can happen is they can tell you no, right,
but find them and ask I'd like to know about
your service. I'd like to know are there any stories
I'd like to hear? Some stories? Would you tell me

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some stories, because it's only through those individual stories that
we can collectively maintain the memory of all of those
because even those who did not die in the battlefield,
they're human beings. They will eventually die like all of
us will, and those stories will be lost. So maybe
you can find a way to get an or history

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of their service. Maybe you can find a way to
get them to tell you stories or write down stories.
Maybe they've got a diary they've never divulged to anyone.
Maybe they don't want to divulge it to you today,
but maybe they would agree that upon their death, those
stories of those wartime things that they dealt with can
be revealed, can be told to other family members. It's

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a difficult thing, but I think it's a necessary thing.
I think it's necessary because for most Americans, I think
the connection to Memorial Day. Remember one in fifty one
in fifty Americans during the Civil Wars perish, but I
shouldn't say parish. They knew it affected one in fifty families,

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one in fifty people. Today it's one in fifty thousand,
So we become even more remote from those except in
those individual cases where that family unit a father, a mother,
a brother, a son, aunt, uncle, whatever it might have been.
But in that family unit, in that immediate family, someone

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has died. But beyond that, you'd have to find forty
ninety nine other families to find another family that's experienced
what that family has experienced. So it is difficult. The
fact that America's modern wars have largely been wars of
choice doesn't mean that the choice to fight them was

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bad or good. Wars of necessity always have Russians, they always,
but tend to have very clearly defined goal and a
very stark moral purpose. They're often about national survival. A
war of choice, on the other hand, are fought to

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achieve a limited policy goal which has a political value,
then to some degree limits the degree of effort and
sacrifice appropriate to his achievement. Which is why it's I
think more important than ever considering the last four or
five wars that we have fought, that we really do

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memorialize those who gave their lives. In World War Two,
we actually completely reordered our economy, reordered our societ. Everything
was about supporting the war of There's a book called
Taxing Wars. She writes that modern wars have not been

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deemed worth the cost of even the significant taxing groups.
Think about that. Did Congress ever come to us because
of Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, any ongoing battle. They haven't even
come to us in Ukraine. I know we don't have
soldiers directly involved in Ukraine, but our military strength is

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being given to Ukraine, and yet we've not been asked
for a tax increase. Now we're being taxed through inflation
that were being taxed in having to replenish all of
that material that we provide to the Ukrainians. But it's
not like as a nation, we've been approached and said, listen,

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we're going to do this. It's in our national security interests.
It's vital to the survival of the United States, and
therefore we're going to increase or put a search charge
on all incomes of X or all wealth or whatever
in order to finance this. We've been asked to do that.
Compare and contrast that to World War II. Now I

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know that World War II is not is not comparable
to the war in Ukraine. We're fighting a proxy war
in Ukraine. But still on this Memorial Day, Ukrainian soldiers
are dying, Russian soldiers are dying Ukrainians may know what

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they're dying for. I'm not convinced that Russian soldiers know
what they're dying for. It means that this idea of
a war limited by its political costs is nothing new.
Wars are fought for an object, and when the cost
of war sees the value of the object, it would

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likely come to a conclusion. But such instrumental use of
violence sits uneasily alongside the soaring rhetoric of the grand
public motive to which the fallen have given up their lives.
Let's don't lose that. Regardless of what you think of Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Ukraine,
Vietnam or Korea. Regardless of what you think about any

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of those wars, people gave up their lives, even if
they weren't Americans, but particularly if they were Americans, because
after all, this is our Memorial Day weekend, and I
think on our Memorial Day weekend, we really do owe it,
regardless whether it's one in fifty or one in fifty thousand,

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and whether it's a world war that uppends everything about
society and the economy and everything is focused on winning
that war, or it's a war of choice and we
all go about our business and we read about it
to hear about it on the nightly news comes to
our living room through television. We still owe this day

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to those who gave those lives. That's what's most important
about Memorial Day weekend. So go find that family, or
go find that cowork and ask them. I don't know
how you approach them, but ask them. I'd like to

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hear your stories if you're willing to tell them. It's
the weekend of Michael Brown. Text the word Michael Michael
to thirty three one zero three. I'll read all your
text messages this weekend because I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Hang tight, I'll be right back. Welcome back to the

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Weekend with Michael Brown. And again I find it odd
because I keep waiting to say happy Memorial Day weekend everyone,
and it's not supposed to be a happy weekend. I mean,
I want you to be happy. I want you to
enjoy the weekend. But really my objective this weekend on
the program, this weekend is to get you to stop
the fun that you are having and think for a

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moment about those who sacrificed and gave their lives for
the freedoms that you and I are enjoying this weekend.
It's almost like I've got these dueling objectives right now.
In that last segment, I was describing how the difference
between a war of choice and a war of necessity

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World War two was delivered to Americans that were alive
at that time, the greatest generation, was delivered to them
via radio. There wasn't television. I mean, there were newsreels, yeah,
but you went to a theater, but there wasn't There
weren't a networks, and there wasn't a television or multiple

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televisions in every household. How many TVs do you have
in your household? Wasn't that way during World War Two?
And when people tuned into the radio, they sat and
they listened to the radio. They didn't watch anything. They
may have looked at each other. They may have sat
and eaten, you know, snacks or something with some kool

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aid and hackers and cheese or something. But that was it.
But fast forward to the war of choice that most
of us lived through, and that of course was the
Vietnam War. The vietnamal was delivered to us by television.

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This is NBC News January twentieth nineteen sixty nine.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
An Allied force of more than eight thousand men today
tightened his hold on the Batangan Peninsula on South Vietnam
Central coast, trapping an undetermined number of North Vietnamese and
Viet Cong troops in tunnel and bunker systems. Yesterday, the
Allies killed twenty three of the enemy and captured one
hundred and thirty six In the Mekong Delta. The Saigon
government in the Viet Cong continued their struggle for the

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allegiance of the people. Here is a report on that struggle,
some of it shown and captured Viet Cong film from
NBC News correspondent Bob Jones.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
There is nothing set about Viet Coong village and doctrination.
The Communists carry signs saying they are taking over the
Saigon government, and their very presence in the village is
usually enough to convince the average Vietnamese farmer. The VC
method isn't all banners and marching in the streets.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
They also bring in skilled political theoreticians who know how
to talk to farmers about local grievances, in words, calculated
to move them to the side of the National Liberation Front.
The people are promised that the time is close at
hand when the National Liberation Front will emerge victorious and
a new flag will fly over every village in the South.

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The government's answer to all of this has been to
imitate the Viet Kong. It almost looks like the same
man is running both sides of the program. Workers called
Revolutionary Development Cadramen. Where the black pajamas associated with the
Viet Kong, the banner's slogans are changed slightly to urge
the Viet Cong to get out of Vietnam. The imitation

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includes entertainment for the villagers. In this case, it may
lack in artistic quality, but it's good enough to hold
the attention of the village school children. When Washington and

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Saigon designed Revolutionary Development several years ago as a copy
of the successful Viet Cong program, the hope was that
eventually villagers might find a spot in their hearts for
the government of President Q and Vice President Key and
turn their backs on the Viet Cong. The only trouble
with the Allied version is that.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
It has not worked.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Like many other experiments out here, Revolutionary Development is now
on its way out. In its place are expected American troops.
The new theory is that revolutionary development may look good
on paper, but nothing pacifies quite like old fashioned military.
Bob Jones, NBC News and the Maykong Delta.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Isn't that fascinating? Do you remember that? You remember that
wars are delivered to us differently. It's the weekend with
Michael Brown, this Memorial Day weekend. Text the word Michael
Michael to thirty three one zero three. We'll be right back.