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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yesterday, RFK Junior and the CDC announced that they are
removing the COVID vaccine from the vaccine schedule for healthy
kids and pregnant women. Well, I wish they removed it
completely for everyone. I'm glad they're making a small step
in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hey, good morning once again, midway midway through your week.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
On this Wednesday, Ryan Shooling with you and John Caldera
will guide you the next couple of days, Thursday and Friday.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
You know who's going to be here the whole time, though,
Dragon lousy Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
That feels like a Tuesday. Wednesday, it feels like a
Tuesday after a holiday and Memorial Day.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
I'm actually okay with that because it's really.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Wednesday, even though it feels like a Tuesday. Indeed, it
does got some weather yesterday. Are they gonna be more
storms today? I don't even look at the forecast? Are there?
Question mark.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Let's get to the SoundBite that Alexa mentioned there to
start the program here, and that's OURFK Junior making this
announcement through the HHS.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
Hi, everybody, I'm Robert your age age as secretary, and
I'm here today with NIH Director doctor J. Bodicharia and
FDA Commissioner Doctor Marty McCarey.
Speaker 7 (01:10):
I couldn't be more pleased to announce.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
That, as of today, the COVID vaccine for healthy children
and healthy pregnant women has been removed from the CDC
recommended immunization schedule. Last year, the Biden administration urged healthy
children to get yet another COVID shot, despite the lack
of any political data to support the repeat booster strategy
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in children.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
That ends today. It's common sense, that's good science.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
There's no evidence healthy kids need it today, and most
countries have stopped recommending it for children.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
Were now one step closer to realizing President Trump's promise
to make America healthy again.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Now what I would say to Alex is be patient.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
You know, the wheels of justice turned slowly and then
includes in the realm of public health.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
He had some agencies here with the HHSH and.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
The CDC that a lot of people are accusing of
being bought and paid for by big pharma, and that
they were in cahoots with one another on the rapid
development of this vaccine. Now, it was called Operation Warp Speed,
and it did happen on President Trump's watch. During his
first term, and he was given him what I considered
to be terrible advice by doctor Fauci and Deborah Burks.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
That was another one with the scarves.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
I also want to try and throw out and remember
that both former President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala
Harris both said when Trump created the vaccine that they
would never use it. Then once they got into office, Hey,
everybody get the jab twice three times if not more.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
That's such a great point dragon, and it's really we
don't make enough of it to the media.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Didn't bother to do their jobs on that one eighty term.
Wait a minute, what happened?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
It went for being this poisonous Trump vaccine that you
wouldn't personally get to.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Everybody must get it or you lose your jobs.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
And let's also not forget too throwing out Another thing
here is.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
That it's one hundred percent effective.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
It's a ninety seven percent, it's a forty five.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
It may it may do something. I like your Faulci
because it's more cartoonish. I thank you very much. Is
are you lota out from?
Speaker 5 (03:29):
But I mean in real time it went its effective.
It's seventy percent effective. It's sixty.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
It might stop the virus if it comes to your
door and knock something. Yeah, no, no, no, no, this
was a yeah, crime against humanity. It might be just
short of that, but it might be that it'll make.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
You symptoms a lot less worse. I've never been a skeptic.
I was raised in the household.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
My father designed the testing STANMD for biohazard cabinets for
the National Sanitation Foundation International headquarters in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
And the prominence and importance of the testing my father
did was those very cabinets I'm talking about. I think
the movie is called Outbreak. It's from the mid nineties.
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It stars Dustin Hoffman, Renee Russo.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Remember that one on the no no.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Kevin Spacey, Yeah, I think he's in it. Yes, in
the beginning sequence, I remember watching this.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
With my dad.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
They take you through the various kind of levels of
laboratory and contagion, you.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Know, kind of whole level one. You know, there's like.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Base level viruses that they wouldn't hurt you too bad,
and then it goes to like a fourth level where
literally the cabinets my dad was designing the test standards
for were used to house an experiment on the AIDS
virus in the eighties. Okay, so this would have been
something where exposure to that would be calamitous.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
So there was some pressure on my father, you could say.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
And he worked directly with nih HHS CDC and specifically
a younger doctor named Anthony Fauci, not directly but through
Fauci's minions, and they had some assignments they needed to
know the cabinet could be used. My dad did this
testing standard on. He ran the lab and would go
back and they do the research. So taken too that
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context the environment that I was raised in about quote
unquote trusting the science. My dad is a man of
science to this day, and he was a consultant for
a few years after his retirement. He's seventy eight years
old right now. But he learned from the best and
NSF was the world's gold standard in this process, and
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he revered doctor Fauci and the research that they were doing.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
He believed in it.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Now we look back in hindsight retrospect, there were a
lot of things that Anthony Fauci said in real time
during the eighties that was completely out of phase, that
was completely false about transmission of HIV, and that needs
to be noted Anthony Fauci overall in retrospect benefit of Heinzein.
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I understand that's twenty twenty, but even in real time,
I think one could have fairly criticized him that his
entire career is based on a lie, is based on
a series of failures. And here's the thing. Science is
a series of failures. When doctor Fauci tells, you don't
question the science, trust the science, I am the science.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
No, you're not.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
No one man or woman, no person is bigger than
the science. What the science is is a series of experiments,
of testing hypotheses, of putting it through the scientific method
of following where the proof leads you. It's not unlike
being a detective in the realm of law and order,
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a police work that in science, you have to go
where the facts lead you, even if it's into an
inconvenient conclusion. Meaning we never knew that this so called
vaccine was a prophylactic.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I know that's a funny sounding.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Word because of what it implies, but the literal definition
of that what Rachel Maddow and others in the mainstream
media claimed without proof, without scientific basis that if you
got this shot, the virus.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Would stop with you.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
You wouldn't get it and you wouldn't transmit it. Isn't
that what we were told. Let's go back and review
this honestly, fairly, with clear eyes. This is important because
that's science. They lied to us. They told us something
they could not know. This positively was true, that if
we got this shot, everything would be fine.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
No, it was not.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
You could still get the virus, you could still transmit
the virus. So how did they form a conclusion that
was based on a complete fairytale theory that was not true,
that was not provable by case study, evidence, through the
scientific method, through trials, through peer reviewed journals, all of that.
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We didn't have any of that. And I'm not even
a scientist. I'm the sent of a scientist, so I'm
derivative here, But I know the base level measure of
what is provable in science, and you cannot come to
a finite, concrete conclusion without absolute proof. And what they
should have told us out of the gate was, hey, look,
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this is a global pandemic.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I understand there's fear out there, and there was.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Remember how we felt, Remember how so many people felt,
especially those who were vulnerable that had comorbidities, and in
those instances, the elderly, the obese, children with compromised health situations.
Then perhaps in those instances where you do a risk
reward analysis, were the shot for my father who has COPD.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
He was elderly, he's got problems.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
It was probably yes, in his best interest individually, case
by case basis for my father to get the shot
to blunt the symptoms of COVID. Guess what, he still
got COVID. We had rules when I went back home.
So many of you may know my mother was diagnosed
with cancer and ended up dying of esophageal cancer in
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November of twenty twenty two, but she had it for
almost a calendar year prior to that. So we're talking
about December twenty twenty one, and we're still on the
tail end of what the pandemic was. And the only reason,
the only reason I got any of the sequence of shots,
and we had jokes about this. Remember, I think Dragon
remembers this. I went to something called the MoMA Clinic
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in Colorado Springs. This is how committed I was to
the bit and it turned out to be a bet.
I didn't know it was a bet. I didn't know
I was, you know, kind of on the stage as
a player in this whole comedy troupe. But apparently I was.
That I was so concerned about getting to see my mother.
And I was how old at that time, forty six? Okay,
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and I was reasonably healthy. I wouldn't say I was
like in the best shape of my life, but in
a vacuum and a void left to my own devices
only me. I don't think I get the shots. I
certainly don't now. Ever, for those of you who held out,
God love you, God bless you and your wisdom, because
you were right. And I have no problem saying that
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I regret getting the shots. I don't know what it's
going to do to me long term, but you have
to understand the crucible the pressure that I felt myself
being in. I was not going to get to see
my mother. My family members would have tackled me. This
was a real concern for me, and I had to
weigh Okay, my mom could be gravely ill.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Here this is a terrible disease.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
The only thing I would say that's worse than Esapha
guild cancer probably is pancreatic and when they catch at
mid to late stage so and somehow, by the grace
of God and through a miracle my knowledge. I don't
want to speak out of turn here, but Tom Martino
is one of those three percenters where that somehow they
caught it early enough to treat it. And wishing him
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the very best thing. Prayers for Tom Martino. He's a
tremendous guy. But with my mom and Esafa Guild, it's
very similar. Typically they don't catch it till stage three
or later, and that was the case with her. All
that to say, I went to the moment clinic. What
it turned out to be was a cattle call. This
was a place that did like lip fillers, injections, cosmetic
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type procedures. This was in a building I walked in
It felt like was nineteen sixty seven. It's a very
old building in Colorado Springs. And they herded us, like
I said, like cattle through this corridor, sitting us.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Up in an office.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I don't know how even hygienic or safe. This was
one person in one share, one person another. This is
Mengola type stuff. Okay, you get your injection. They don't
even talk to you, you get the jab in your arm,
you walk out.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
They don't watch you afterwards.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
You're supposed to be kind of monitored for like fifteen
minutes after the fact. They didn't do that. And the
calamity of it all, this is all surreal. This is
like something out of a sci fi dystopian movie. I'm
driving back here from Colorado Springs and route. On the radio,
I'm listening to KOA. I'm hearing that they just shut
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down the Moment clinic because they were not storing the
vaccine doses at the appropriate temperature. Now, all this meant
was that my dose had been spoiled by scientific standards
and that it wouldn't count. So what did I have
to do. I had to get another shot. I had
to get one more than everybody else. I was like nitroglycerine,
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I think for a while, was absolutely radioactive.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I glowed green.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I think there was something that was like Spider Man
or something I was going to turn into. Somebody was
like weird superpowers. But I ended up getting what was it,
three shots for two something like that. I didn't feel
good after the second dose, which that apparently was a
symptom that the first dose actually worked. The one that
I got at MoMA Clinic. But this is again, it
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was complete chaos. People were like me, were scurrying and
hustling to get this shot so that we could see
our loved ones.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Because then you heard.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
The the absolute miserable stories, these these tragedies of people
who had loved ones that were dying, and you had
to like look at them.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Through the looking glass. You couldn't.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
You couldn't touch them, you couldn't hug them, you couldn't
hold their hands as they're dying.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I mean, that's nuts.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
And it would have been it would have been had
it been only up to my mom.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
She wouldn't care. I'm her firstborn son.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
She was like, come here, then I'm gonna die because
this is this is just we were fed a poison
pill in the form of disinformation to borrow one of
their favorite terms.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
And I was so livid.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I was so angry that I was lied to by
these institutions, by these agencies that were supposed to tell
us the truth that we're supposed to be looking out
for public health. But we know what this was, and
you know what it is. I'm walking to that conclusion.
But it shouldn't take me. This was absolutely entirely to
blunt the fear and panic of the general public worldwide.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
That's all it was.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
It was psychological. It was we got the shot. It
comforts us. It's like a warm blinkie, and now we're
going to feel like we're safe. You were not protected
from getting the virus or transmitting the virus, in spite
of us being told that we were lied to. That's
not science. The correct presentation of that shot would have
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been looked what I just said. If you have comorbidities,
if you're elderly, there is a chance, and it did,
this virus and this virus alone will kill you. It
is that serious, It is that severe.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
It was.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
It wasn't just a cold or of flu at those
opening stages. For those that didn't have the immune systems
who could fight it did it could and did kill them.
That those who get the shot, you're much less likely
to experience severe symptoms. However, we do not have proof
that the shots prevent both infection or transmission to somebody else.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
This is what we are also told with the flu shot.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
If you still get that now, if you're elderly and
you have a compromised immune system, comorbiditis COPD like my dad,
then yeah, you probably should get the flu shot.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
The flu shot is Russian roulette.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I was told that by doctors who administer it, where
they guess what the most prominent strain is going to
be every flu season and they ball park it and
they take their best shot. But it's not one hundred percent.
And I've heard many instances, including from my own father.
Now he I remember him telling he got a flu shot.
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He was relatively young. I want to say he was
in his twenties, so this would have been like late sixties,
early seventies, like the very first flu shots, and it
made him sick, and he kind of, you know, was
little hesitant and skeptical, shall we say about flu shots
going forward from there? As am I right now. But
the whole, the balance of it was younger people. This
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is going a long way. But these are points that
need to be revisited. I think that we never get
fooled again, kind of the Who's song, won't get fooled again?
Maybe Dragon will play that coming for us coming back.
But to alexis point one, it should never have been mandated. Two,
it should have been recommended for those with comorbidities.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
And three, this is where my sister doesn't.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Want me to talk about her or my nieces. I'm
going to my niece's graduation this weekend. I'm going to
say that publicly, but she's not comfortable when I mentioned
them her on the air. However, in the interest of fairness, disclosure,
and honesty, my niece has got super duper ultra multiple
times vaccinated. And they're in there at the time, and
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they're early teens. No, absolutely not if I was administering
their care as their guardian.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
No should any youngster have ever gotten this again unless
they had very severe comorbidities. Because the push pull analysis
of possible long term side effects or even short term
side effects of this shot that we don't know. We
don't know what we don't know. That's another thing we
weren't told in real time. We don't know what we
don't know. I know you're afraid out there, but we're
not gonna just tell you, feed you a blank sandwich
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and tell you to eat it and say everything's going
to be okay, because we don't know it's going to
be okay.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
But we're doing the best we can. And this is
the best we got right now, this shot.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
If you want to take it, it's up to you
that that's not how that went the whole thing. But
youngsters with robust immune systems that could get this virus
and then produce the ani bodies and be even stronger
in fighting it off should never have gotten the shot.
And there was no evidence of any kind in any
study anywhere, peer reviewed or otherwise that told us that kids,
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little kids, little ones, munchkins, chitlins, kindergarten.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Age kids should be getting the shot.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Absolutely not so, Alexa, thank you, I guess for launching
me into this rant. For the opening segment, was that
Biden low level energy? I asked the texture for yesterday?
I think not not even Jeb Bush. I don't need
an exclamation point, Jeb, you're a real tough guy, Jeb. Anyway,
we'll get to your text when we come back after this.
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Appreciate you tuning in today on the situation without Michael Brown.
Speaker 8 (18:45):
Good morning Dragon.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Right.
Speaker 8 (18:47):
It was pure evilness how they used those poisoned shots
that were not tested, that are not safe and not
effective to keep to get people to take them so
that they could see their loved ones and seen home
pure evilness. Fauci needs to hang publicly.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Oh, I prefer Governor DeSantis's idea of skipping that Elf
across the Potomaca.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Remember that quote.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
That was fun because then Fauci's reaction to it. It
reminded me of the scene in ELF with Peter Dinklage
and Buddy's like, oh, he's angry Elf, and then.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
He comes charging across the table.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
I expected doctor Fauci to do that with round de Santis.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Fauci should be held accountable.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
He was pardoned, but in quotes, in quotes with a
question mark by the auto pen, by the auto pen
of Joe Biden, which that a whole different can of
worms we're opening up there. But I think his legacy
is permanently tarnished. There are those who are committed leftist folks.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
You know this.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
You see them people in the grocery store are still
wearing masks. I mean, in a way, I feel there's
two feeling I have in response to that. One, I
feel bad for them. They're obviously mentally ill, they're not well.
But two, they are contributing to the social contagion of
fear that continues to perpetuate others wearing masks. You are
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not doing a blankety blank thing by wearing a cloth mask.
Wake the blank up, really struggling not to swear this
morning and violate FCC rules. Again, this is the show
that you would get if we were at a bar
watching the Tigers later today and they play at eleven
am our time, just saying I'll be out and about.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
You want to contact me, and Dragon knows my number.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
But I do have a vista reaction because there's something
that separates me and I think a lot of you
from leftists out there who enjoy being lied to, who
don't mind being lied to.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
It was fun though, watching some people in the grocery
store I did, and I wish I had taken a
picture of it. A woman wearing a yarn nit kid
mask with whole yeah. I mean you could see her
lips and nose and everything through the holes in this
yarn mask, but.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
She was wearing it. There's a viral photo. The poor kids,
the poor kids through all this. I mean, I don't
know how a single Gen Z kid ever votes Democrat again.
I know they're flocking to the Republican Party. They're more
conservative than any generation, perhaps since the Greatest Generation World
War Two, and there's a reason there's that photo. There's
two kids, two high school age girls. I think one's
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playing the flute and another's playing the clarinet, and they
have holes in this stupid mask so they can play
their instruments the other so many stupid things. If you're
at a restaurant, you're seated, the virus can't get you,
so you can take your mask off and eat. But
then if you stand up, well, the virus is at
that elevation. No matter whether you're a little person or
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a giant like Nikola Jokic, you got to put that
mask back on. And if you're on a plane, well,
you know, you could take your mask off if you're
actively drinking or eating, because obviously the virus doesn't spread then,
But if you stand up to go use the lab,
well then you got to put that mass back on
because then the virus wakes up. Whoa, there's a person
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I'm gonna infect that for Think about how stupid that sounds,
but that's what we were dealing with. Even my father
remember this too. So I got the shots because of
my mom, but my dad I couldn't see him either
because of the COPD and he's very He's a germophobe.
He always has been. Like when we get sick as kids,
he would like, go a wall, where's my dad? You're sick.
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He doesn't want to be near you. My mom, God, lover,
God rest her soul. She'd be like, oh, you're my
little boy. You come here and give me all your germs.
I'm gonna I'm gonna give you medicine.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Here. I'll put some Vicks Vapo reb under your nose.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
You're gonna be okay, ry And like, my mom was
really good when I was sick. I'd watch Prices right
with her. It was amazing. Those were good times. My
dad though, during this pandemic, folks, I'm not making this up,
and I know you'll believe because you might have gone
through it yourself. I go to Lansing to see him.
I could not go in the house for two years.
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I could not go in his house where I had
once lived with him. This long story, it's a long ago,
like twenty ten, fifteen years ago. What whilst with him
to use the correct English Old English King's English. We
sat outside in concentric kind of formation with tent chairs.
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He would have this really sophisticated N ninety five mask
on outdoors. I couldn't get within like ten feet of them,
couldn't hug my dad, couldn't shake his hand.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
You think these are small thing. Maybe you don't. Maybe
you know that that's not a small thing.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
But the fear that was instilled by the mainstream media,
reinforced by a science in quotes by doctor Fauci that
was anything but perpetuated this mythology.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
That's what we were dealing. It was mythology.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
And there's those that believed in it, folks, there are
still those who probably have their Fauci prayer candles. Yeah,
the absolute madness of it all and what is what
is the common thread here?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
And I'm not a real religious guy. I'm somewhat.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
I would consider myself a Christian, but I've gotten a
lot more religious because of how little religion these people had.
Why is that important? This became their religion. Faucism became
like MAO is like a religion that's substituted for faith
in a higher power.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
It is their ideology. They cling to.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
This, and it's it's so many things across the spectrum
for the left, for the atheistic, secular left, that they
rather than putting their faith in God or trusting, you know,
in their own instincts. The science is their God, but
it's not really science. That's the tragedy of it all.
And I want to get into this. I think i'll
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take a break early, but we'll get to a text
as well. I think this came in for Alexa, and
she texted me directly the following this posted in the
thing is I question everything now I kind of did before.
I really do know anything we're told. I'm like, eh,
I don't think I believe you.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
You lied to me. You know, you lied to me.
That's it.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
And that's for anything with anyone across the board. If
I find you lied to me, we're kind of done here.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
You know.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
And that means CDC, that means NIH, that means HHS.
And that's why I'm so glad that RFK Junior is
in charge of it, because he's rebuilding trust. But it's
got to start somewhere, and it's not going to be
rebuilt in the day. BREAKING get the flu shot and
you are twenty seven percent more likely to get the flu.
I've seen these reports before. I don't get the flu shots.
I'm definitely not going to get them now that I mean,
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congratulations the science. Somebody like me that wants to believe
in science, that wants to believe that these health organizations
would do things for the greater good and in there
our best entry, but do anything. But you lost me.
You had me, then you lost me. Let's get to
this text right here.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Here, Ryan, Well, go ahead, as you say, while you're
searching for that, just remember watching in real time as
well that Hey, some of us got sent home from
work because we knew somebody who knew somebody who knew
somebody who may have gotten tested or may not have
gotten tested by it. They had it, So you get
sent home. But then a year or so later, Hey,
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if you have COVID, as long as you're not showing
any symptoms, change you're asked to work.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
So what changed? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
You know, you get four times removed from somebody not
even having COVID, and you go home to you have COVID,
get your ass to work.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Just remember, just remember those things still the same virus.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Ryan, Removing it from recommendation doesn't mean you can't get it.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Does it mean the shot for COVID you can get
all the shots you are. It's free country.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I would not recommend it personally, again, big asterisk. Unless
you have comorbidities like my father, then then it's probably
in your best interest to do it. But if you're
a reasonably healthy person a middle aged or younger, no,
I don't think it's worth it. I don't think it's
worth it. Alexa texted this, Ryan. I tried to warn
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people about the job. Yeah, I got warned. Too many
did not listen. I did not say anything negative to
people who.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Got the job.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I really respect people like you MDB and Mandy who
after getting the.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
JAB saw the truth.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
But I have no respect for those who yelled then
still are yelling that I'd be killing grandma and no
one ever answered. Where did the flu go in twenty twenty? Yeah,
they were all COVID cases because money follow the money.
That's where all the funding was. You were going to
get the funding if you had flu cases, maybe you
had COVID cases, ching ching, Ryan, you are the first
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person I've heard acknowledged the error of relenting to the
injection hype and apologize. I've been waiting for someone to
acknowledge that since March or twenty twenty thank you. I'm
a data driven sort of fellow, and the data told
the whole story almost immediately. I didn't buy the BS
for a moment, and I helped my neighbors in social
circle walk through the whole thing unafraid. Very frustrating period
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of time for America, in the whole world, And what
I would say to it is never again.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I will never again be duped in that way.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
I've already lost my mother, and I have a lot
of regrets about what I did to my own body,
and I wish I.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Could take it out of my body.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
I can't, though I made the decision. That was my decision,
and I own it.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Ryan.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
In twenty nineteen, I researched the COVID outbreak in Europe.
The recommendations of the virology community was to get your
sarm D three level above sixty and follow general cleanliness procedures.
There were no PSAs about vitamin D three.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Back when I was still on the Rick Lewis Show
in the morning prior to the whole COVID thing. When
it was happening in real time is February or March,
right before it got really big and terrible and scary.
Had a doctor on who said that exact same thing. Hey,
the people that are not dying, their D three levels
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are where they are, are where they should be. They're
above X amount. They say sixty here, so I will
choose to believe that. But they're like, yeah, anybody who
is concerned about COVID take D.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Three, Take D three, Drink whole milk, get a lot
of sunshine. Those are your sources of vitamin D thing.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
And this was a doctor that we had on air
say this prior to the whole lockdown, any of that
kind of crazy crap.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Even going back one hundred years prior to the influenza
epidemic in World War One, one of the things that
they did was they had people go outside and get sunshine.
That was actually a correct diagnosis. At that time in medicine,
we didn't have nearly what we have today. We didn't
have fake vaccines either back then. So there's that a
time out. We're back wrapping up our number one with
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more of your text than doctor Leanna when who's still
questioning RFK Junior about some things, even though she's one
of those. Is the flippity flop from one side to
the other on all these lockdowns recommendations MASSTCA, so she's.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
A phony, free fake as well.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
The situation without Michael Brown Ryan Shuling filling in on
this Wednesday edition, We're back after.
Speaker 9 (30:13):
This Bryan and Dragon, good morning. Just think about it.
Our lives mean nothing to the government and to the elite.
We're just pawns. They wanted to inject us with poison
and keep life saving medicine like I we meed in
away from us. Anybody that believes the government is for
us has got their head buried in the sand. Have
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a good day.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Trusting the experts is not a feature of science. It's
not a feature of democracy. It's a feature of religion
and totalitarianism. What we should do is trust the science,
and we are going to do the science, and the
science is going to be replicable and it's going to
be gold standard. People should not be taking medical advice.
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I'm somebody who is not a physician, but they and
they should also be skeptical about any medical advice. They
need to do their own research.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I love this guy, RFK Junior spot on and to
the talkbackers point, that is one guy I do trust.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Can it Can I jump back to what he said
to about the ibromactinism because they were they were saying, Hey,
it's it's you're using that product off label. Stop using
as an off label product. It's not horse, it's horse
d wormer. I just want to throw out a reminder
as to what other major medications out there on the
market right now that a lot of people use that
are off label. Viagra, Oh, viagra is a heart right,
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and ozembic that's a diabetes that's right, it's great. But
they have side effects. Each of those have a side
effect that everybody seems to enjoy and a side benefit, right,
a little little boner pill or weight loss. But that's
not what they were initially attendant for. So far are
we so upset about ibmcted. That may not be what
it was initially attended for, but it works as to help.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Fight COVID right, and Joe Rogan this and not that.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Think about how much heat Joe Rogan took from Anderson Cooper,
so called serious journalists and others just openly mocking him
and driving his reputation to the ground. And as it
turns out, Joe Rogan was right, and Joe Rogan's physicians
were right to consider alternative methods that ivermectin didn't have
a lot of side effects to your point, Dragon, but
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those potential benefit Doctor Leanna when was one of those
who backed the mocking of OURFK junior of Joe Rogan,
And she's a bit confused. Why is RFK junior encouraging
skepticism of the medical community.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Doctor n what do you think of that message?
Speaker 10 (32:45):
Well, I'm confused by that message, and I bet that
many people are confused about this too. Look, I'm a clinician.
I talked to my colleagues for physicians and nurses all
the time, and yes, we do our own research, and
yes we look at scientific.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Guards goals and we parse through them.
Speaker 10 (33:01):
We look at recommendations.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
But the thing is, there.
Speaker 10 (33:04):
Are lots of different clinical topics. It's not reasonable to
expect that even clinicians and scientists look at the medical
literature all the time and parse through the literature ourselves
on every single topic. This is the reason why we
look to guidelines. There are medical organizations that synthesize these data.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Do they though, or do they invent it out of
whole class? And what she's suggesting that they just don't
have time to go through all the medical evidence trials
and paperwork itself. That's even more reason to be skeptical
that prooves are. Of K Junior's point, So does.
Speaker 10 (33:37):
This, by the way, we looked up to the CDC,
or at least throughout history, we have looked up to
the CDC, which to compile these studies for US and
to make recommendations. And this we have always throughout history
depended on our federal agencies as the gold standard for expertise,
for information, for unbiased scientific data. And so it's very
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confusing and quite distressing actually to hear the person who
heads up these agencies to whom these agencies report now
say that expertise cannot be trusted. I'm confused because it
leaves people wondering, well, what sources of information can I trust?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Not the CDC or the FDA or the who Not
you doctor Lena wn who backtracked on COVID lockdowns. The
video evidence is out there, You're indicted, And I, for one,
find it comforting reassuring that RFK Junior says, Look, I'm
heading up this agency, ahs, but be skeptical of us,
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hold us to account. You know, we're going to do
our very best but it needs to be science driven.
And that's that's what the bottom line of what I'm
getting at is what RFK Junior is saying and why
he's so right, is you trust the science, the science,
not doctor Fauci.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
He isn't the science.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
You trust the scientific method you trust the research methodology
and the results they're in.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
But you continue to.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Test the science, questioning the science is the science. That's
what science is. You don't just take it carte blanche
and go back it's over. We're gonna stop questioning everything. No,
you question everything to the very last, and you don't
trust the experts. Doctor went Yes, they might be compromised,
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these people in the CDC, the FDA, the HHS. I
believe wholeheartedly that RFKA Junior is looking to root out
that corruption.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
But it's there, it exists.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
They answered a big pharma to our talkbackers, point to
many of our texters that are coming in.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
You are right to question and be skeptical. The gold
standard should be a high bar. It should be earned,
not just given their trust. Our trust in them has
been broken. It's up to them to fix it, not us.
Yesterday, RFK Junior and the CDC announced that they are
removing the COVID vaccine from the vaccine schedule for healthy
kids and pregnant women. Well, I wish they removed it
completely for everyone. I'm glad they're making a small step
in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hey, good morning once again, midway midway through your week.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
On this Wednesday, Ryan Shooling with you and John Caldera
will guide you the next couple of days, Thursday and Friday.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
You know who's going to be here the whole time, though,
Dragon lousy Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
That feels like a Tuesday. Wednesday, it feels like a
Tuesday after a holiday and Memorial Day.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
I'm actually okay with that because it's really.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Wednesday, even though it feels like a Tuesday. Indeed, it
does got some weather yesterday. Are they gonna be more
storms today? I don't even look at the forecast? Are there?
Question mark.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Let's get to the SoundBite that Alexa mentioned there to
start the program here, and that's OURFK Junior making this
announcement through the HHS.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
Hi, everybody, I'm Robert your age age as secretary, and
I'm here today with NIH Director doctor J. Bodicharia and
FDA Commissioner Doctor Marty McCarey.
Speaker 7 (01:10):
I couldn't be more pleased to announce.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
That, as of today, the COVID vaccine for healthy children
and healthy pregnant women has been removed from the CDC
recommended immunization schedule. Last year, the Biden administration urged healthy
children to get yet another COVID shot, despite the lack
of any political data to support the repeat booster strategy
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in children.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
That ends today. It's common sense, that's good science.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
There's no evidence healthy kids need it today, and most
countries have stopped recommending it for children.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
Were now one step closer to realizing President Trump's promise
to make America healthy again.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Now what I would say to Alex is be patient.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
You know, the wheels of justice turned slowly and then
includes in the realm of public health.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
He had some agencies here with the HHSH and.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
The CDC that a lot of people are accusing of
being bought and paid for by big pharma, and that
they were in cahoots with one another on the rapid
development of this vaccine. Now, it was called Operation Warp Speed,
and it did happen on President Trump's watch. During his
first term, and he was given him what I considered
to be terrible advice by doctor Fauci and Deborah Burks.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
That was another one with the scarves.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
I also want to try and throw out and remember
that both former President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala
Harris both said when Trump created the vaccine that they
would never use it. Then once they got into office, Hey,
everybody get the jab twice three times if not more.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
That's such a great point dragon, and it's really we
don't make enough of it to the media.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Didn't bother to do their jobs on that one eighty term.
Wait a minute, what happened?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
It went for being this poisonous Trump vaccine that you
wouldn't personally get to.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Everybody must get it or you lose your jobs.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
And let's also not forget too throwing out Another thing
here is.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
That it's one hundred percent effective.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
It's a ninety seven percent, it's a forty five.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
It may it may do something. I like your Faulci
because it's more cartoonish. I thank you very much. Is
are you lota out from?
Speaker 5 (03:29):
But I mean in real time it went its effective.
It's seventy percent effective. It's sixty.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
It might stop the virus if it comes to your
door and knock something. Yeah, no, no, no, no, this
was a yeah, crime against humanity. It might be just
short of that, but it might be that it'll make.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
You symptoms a lot less worse. I've never been a skeptic.
I was raised in the household.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
My father designed the testing STANMD for biohazard cabinets for
the National Sanitation Foundation International headquarters in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
And the prominence and importance of the testing my father
did was those very cabinets I'm talking about. I think
the movie is called Outbreak. It's from the mid nineties.
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It stars Dustin Hoffman, Renee Russo.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Remember that one on the no no.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Kevin Spacey, Yeah, I think he's in it. Yes, in
the beginning sequence, I remember watching this.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
With my dad.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
They take you through the various kind of levels of
laboratory and contagion, you.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Know, kind of whole level one. You know, there's like.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Base level viruses that they wouldn't hurt you too bad,
and then it goes to like a fourth level where
literally the cabinets my dad was designing the test standards
for were used to house an experiment on the AIDS
virus in the eighties. Okay, so this would have been
something where exposure to that would be calamitous.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
So there was some pressure on my father, you could say.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
And he worked directly with nih HHS CDC and specifically
a younger doctor named Anthony Fauci, not directly but through
Fauci's minions, and they had some assignments they needed to
know the cabinet could be used. My dad did this
testing standard on. He ran the lab and would go
back and they do the research. So taken too that
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context the environment that I was raised in about quote
unquote trusting the science. My dad is a man of
science to this day, and he was a consultant for
a few years after his retirement. He's seventy eight years
old right now. But he learned from the best and
NSF was the world's gold standard in this process, and
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he revered doctor Fauci and the research that they were doing.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
He believed in it.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Now we look back in hindsight retrospect, there were a
lot of things that Anthony Fauci said in real time
during the eighties that was completely out of phase, that
was completely false about transmission of HIV, and that needs
to be noted Anthony Fauci overall in retrospect benefit of Heinzein.
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I understand that's twenty twenty, but even in real time,
I think one could have fairly criticized him that his
entire career is based on a lie, is based on
a series of failures. And here's the thing. Science is
a series of failures. When doctor Fauci tells, you don't
question the science, trust the science, I am the science.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
No, you're not.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
No one man or woman, no person is bigger than
the science. What the science is is a series of experiments,
of testing hypotheses, of putting it through the scientific method
of following where the proof leads you. It's not unlike
being a detective in the realm of law and order,
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a police work that in science, you have to go
where the facts lead you, even if it's into an
inconvenient conclusion. Meaning we never knew that this so called
vaccine was a prophylactic.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I know that's a funny sounding.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Word because of what it implies, but the literal definition
of that what Rachel Maddow and others in the mainstream
media claimed without proof, without scientific basis that if you
got this shot, the virus.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Would stop with you.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
You wouldn't get it and you wouldn't transmit it. Isn't
that what we were told. Let's go back and review
this honestly, fairly, with clear eyes. This is important because
that's science. They lied to us. They told us something
they could not know. This positively was true, that if
we got this shot, everything would be fine.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
No, it was not.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
You could still get the virus, you could still transmit
the virus. So how did they form a conclusion that
was based on a complete fairytale theory that was not true,
that was not provable by case study, evidence, through the
scientific method, through trials, through peer reviewed journals, all of that.
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We didn't have any of that. And I'm not even
a scientist. I'm the sent of a scientist, so I'm
derivative here, But I know the base level measure of
what is provable in science, and you cannot come to
a finite, concrete conclusion without absolute proof. And what they
should have told us out of the gate was, hey, look,
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this is a global pandemic.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I understand there's fear out there, and there was.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Remember how we felt, Remember how so many people felt,
especially those who were vulnerable that had comorbidities, and in
those instances, the elderly, the obese, children with compromised health situations.
Then perhaps in those instances where you do a risk
reward analysis, were the shot for my father who has COPD.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
He was elderly, he's got problems.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
It was probably yes, in his best interest individually, case
by case basis for my father to get the shot
to blunt the symptoms of COVID. Guess what, he still
got COVID. We had rules when I went back home.
So many of you may know my mother was diagnosed
with cancer and ended up dying of esophageal cancer in
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November of twenty twenty two, but she had it for
almost a calendar year prior to that. So we're talking
about December twenty twenty one, and we're still on the
tail end of what the pandemic was. And the only reason,
the only reason I got any of the sequence of shots,
and we had jokes about this. Remember, I think Dragon
remembers this. I went to something called the MoMA Clinic
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in Colorado Springs. This is how committed I was to
the bit and it turned out to be a bet.
I didn't know it was a bet. I didn't know
I was, you know, kind of on the stage as
a player in this whole comedy troupe. But apparently I was.
That I was so concerned about getting to see my mother.
And I was how old at that time, forty six? Okay,
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and I was reasonably healthy. I wouldn't say I was
like in the best shape of my life, but in
a vacuum and a void left to my own devices
only me. I don't think I get the shots. I
certainly don't now. Ever, for those of you who held out,
God love you, God bless you and your wisdom, because
you were right. And I have no problem saying that
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I regret getting the shots. I don't know what it's
going to do to me long term, but you have
to understand the crucible the pressure that I felt myself
being in. I was not going to get to see
my mother. My family members would have tackled me. This
was a real concern for me, and I had to
weigh Okay, my mom could be gravely ill.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Here this is a terrible disease.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
The only thing I would say that's worse than Esapha
guild cancer probably is pancreatic and when they catch at
mid to late stage so and somehow, by the grace
of God and through a miracle my knowledge. I don't
want to speak out of turn here, but Tom Martino
is one of those three percenters where that somehow they
caught it early enough to treat it. And wishing him
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the very best thing. Prayers for Tom Martino. He's a
tremendous guy. But with my mom and Esafa Guild, it's
very similar. Typically they don't catch it till stage three
or later, and that was the case with her. All
that to say, I went to the moment clinic. What
it turned out to be was a cattle call. This
was a place that did like lip fillers, injections, cosmetic
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type procedures. This was in a building I walked in
It felt like was nineteen sixty seven. It's a very
old building in Colorado Springs. And they herded us, like
I said, like cattle through this corridor, sitting us.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Up in an office.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I don't know how even hygienic or safe. This was
one person in one share, one person another. This is
Mengola type stuff. Okay, you get your injection. They don't
even talk to you, you get the jab in your arm,
you walk out.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
They don't watch you afterwards.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
You're supposed to be kind of monitored for like fifteen
minutes after the fact. They didn't do that. And the
calamity of it all, this is all surreal. This is
like something out of a sci fi dystopian movie. I'm
driving back here from Colorado Springs and route. On the radio,
I'm listening to KOA. I'm hearing that they just shut
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down the Moment clinic because they were not storing the
vaccine doses at the appropriate temperature. Now, all this meant
was that my dose had been spoiled by scientific standards
and that it wouldn't count. So what did I have
to do. I had to get another shot. I had
to get one more than everybody else. I was like nitroglycerine,
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I think for a while, was absolutely radioactive.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I glowed green.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I think there was something that was like Spider Man
or something I was going to turn into. Somebody was
like weird superpowers. But I ended up getting what was it,
three shots for two something like that. I didn't feel
good after the second dose, which that apparently was a
symptom that the first dose actually worked. The one that
I got at MoMA Clinic. But this is again, it
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was complete chaos. People were like me, were scurrying and
hustling to get this shot so that we could see
our loved ones.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Because then you heard.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
The the absolute miserable stories, these these tragedies of people
who had loved ones that were dying, and you had
to like look at them.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Through the looking glass. You couldn't.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
You couldn't touch them, you couldn't hug them, you couldn't
hold their hands as they're dying.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I mean, that's nuts.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
And it would have been it would have been had
it been only up to my mom.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
She wouldn't care. I'm her firstborn son.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
She was like, come here, then I'm gonna die because
this is this is just we were fed a poison
pill in the form of disinformation to borrow one of
their favorite terms.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
And I was so livid.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I was so angry that I was lied to by
these institutions, by these agencies that were supposed to tell
us the truth that we're supposed to be looking out
for public health. But we know what this was, and
you know what it is. I'm walking to that conclusion.
But it shouldn't take me. This was absolutely entirely to
blunt the fear and panic of the general public worldwide.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
That's all it was.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
It was psychological. It was we got the shot. It
comforts us. It's like a warm blinkie, and now we're
going to feel like we're safe. You were not protected
from getting the virus or transmitting the virus, in spite
of us being told that we were lied to. That's
not science. The correct presentation of that shot would have
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been looked what I just said. If you have comorbidities,
if you're elderly, there is a chance, and it did,
this virus and this virus alone will kill you. It
is that serious, It is that severe.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
It was.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
It wasn't just a cold or of flu at those
opening stages. For those that didn't have the immune systems
who could fight it did it could and did kill them.
That those who get the shot, you're much less likely
to experience severe symptoms. However, we do not have proof
that the shots prevent both infection or transmission to somebody else.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
This is what we are also told with the flu shot.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
If you still get that now, if you're elderly and
you have a compromised immune system, comorbiditis COPD like my dad,
then yeah, you probably should get the flu shot.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
The flu shot is Russian roulette.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I was told that by doctors who administer it, where
they guess what the most prominent strain is going to
be every flu season and they ball park it and
they take their best shot. But it's not one hundred percent.
And I've heard many instances, including from my own father.
Now he I remember him telling he got a flu shot.
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He was relatively young. I want to say he was
in his twenties, so this would have been like late sixties,
early seventies, like the very first flu shots, and it
made him sick, and he kind of, you know, was
little hesitant and skeptical, shall we say about flu shots
going forward from there? As am I right now. But
the whole, the balance of it was younger people. This
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is going a long way. But these are points that
need to be revisited. I think that we never get
fooled again, kind of the Who's song, won't get fooled again?
Maybe Dragon will play that coming for us coming back.
But to alexis point one, it should never have been mandated. Two,
it should have been recommended for those with comorbidities.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
And three, this is where my sister doesn't.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Want me to talk about her or my nieces. I'm
going to my niece's graduation this weekend. I'm going to
say that publicly, but she's not comfortable when I mentioned
them her on the air. However, in the interest of fairness, disclosure,
and honesty, my niece has got super duper ultra multiple
times vaccinated. And they're in there at the time, and
(17:08):
they're early teens. No, absolutely not if I was administering
their care as their guardian.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
No should any youngster have ever gotten this again unless
they had very severe comorbidities. Because the push pull analysis
of possible long term side effects or even short term
side effects of this shot that we don't know. We
don't know what we don't know. That's another thing we
weren't told in real time. We don't know what we
don't know. I know you're afraid out there, but we're
not gonna just tell you, feed you a blank sandwich
(17:40):
and tell you to eat it and say everything's going
to be okay, because we don't know it's going to
be okay.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
But we're doing the best we can. And this is
the best we got right now, this shot.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
If you want to take it, it's up to you
that that's not how that went the whole thing. But
youngsters with robust immune systems that could get this virus
and then produce the ani bodies and be even stronger
in fighting it off should never have gotten the shot.
And there was no evidence of any kind in any
study anywhere, peer reviewed or otherwise that told us that kids,
(18:12):
little kids, little ones, munchkins, chitlins, kindergarten.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Age kids should be getting the shot.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Absolutely not so, Alexa, thank you, I guess for launching
me into this rant. For the opening segment, was that
Biden low level energy? I asked the texture for yesterday?
I think not not even Jeb Bush. I don't need
an exclamation point, Jeb, you're a real tough guy, Jeb. Anyway,
we'll get to your text when we come back after this.
(18:41):
Appreciate you tuning in today on the situation without Michael Brown.
Speaker 8 (18:45):
Good morning Dragon.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Right.
Speaker 8 (18:47):
It was pure evilness how they used those poisoned shots
that were not tested, that are not safe and not
effective to keep to get people to take them so
that they could see their loved ones and seen home
pure evilness. Fauci needs to hang publicly.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Oh, I prefer Governor DeSantis's idea of skipping that Elf
across the Potomaca.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Remember that quote.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
That was fun because then Fauci's reaction to it. It
reminded me of the scene in ELF with Peter Dinklage
and Buddy's like, oh, he's angry Elf, and then.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
He comes charging across the table.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
I expected doctor Fauci to do that with round de Santis.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Fauci should be held accountable.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
He was pardoned, but in quotes, in quotes with a
question mark by the auto pen, by the auto pen
of Joe Biden, which that a whole different can of
worms we're opening up there. But I think his legacy
is permanently tarnished. There are those who are committed leftist folks.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
You know this.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
You see them people in the grocery store are still
wearing masks. I mean, in a way, I feel there's
two feeling I have in response to that. One, I
feel bad for them. They're obviously mentally ill, they're not well.
But two, they are contributing to the social contagion of
fear that continues to perpetuate others wearing masks. You are
(20:15):
not doing a blankety blank thing by wearing a cloth mask.
Wake the blank up, really struggling not to swear this
morning and violate FCC rules. Again, this is the show
that you would get if we were at a bar
watching the Tigers later today and they play at eleven
am our time, just saying I'll be out and about.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
You want to contact me, and Dragon knows my number.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
But I do have a vista reaction because there's something
that separates me and I think a lot of you
from leftists out there who enjoy being lied to, who
don't mind being lied to.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
It was fun though, watching some people in the grocery
store I did, and I wish I had taken a
picture of it. A woman wearing a yarn nit kid
mask with whole yeah. I mean you could see her
lips and nose and everything through the holes in this
yarn mask, but.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
She was wearing it. There's a viral photo. The poor kids,
the poor kids through all this. I mean, I don't
know how a single Gen Z kid ever votes Democrat again.
I know they're flocking to the Republican Party. They're more
conservative than any generation, perhaps since the Greatest Generation World
War Two, and there's a reason there's that photo. There's
two kids, two high school age girls. I think one's
(21:29):
playing the flute and another's playing the clarinet, and they
have holes in this stupid mask so they can play
their instruments the other so many stupid things. If you're
at a restaurant, you're seated, the virus can't get you,
so you can take your mask off and eat. But
then if you stand up, well, the virus is at
that elevation. No matter whether you're a little person or
(21:50):
a giant like Nikola Jokic, you got to put that
mask back on. And if you're on a plane, well,
you know, you could take your mask off if you're
actively drinking or eating, because obviously the virus doesn't spread then,
But if you stand up to go use the lab,
well then you got to put that mass back on
because then the virus wakes up. Whoa, there's a person
(22:11):
I'm gonna infect that for Think about how stupid that sounds,
but that's what we were dealing with. Even my father
remember this too. So I got the shots because of
my mom, but my dad I couldn't see him either
because of the COPD and he's very He's a germophobe.
He always has been. Like when we get sick as kids,
he would like, go a wall, where's my dad? You're sick.
(22:34):
He doesn't want to be near you. My mom, God, lover,
God rest her soul. She'd be like, oh, you're my
little boy. You come here and give me all your germs.
I'm gonna I'm gonna give you medicine.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Here. I'll put some Vicks Vapo reb under your nose.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
You're gonna be okay, ry And like, my mom was
really good when I was sick. I'd watch Prices right
with her. It was amazing. Those were good times. My
dad though, during this pandemic, folks, I'm not making this up,
and I know you'll believe because you might have gone
through it yourself. I go to Lansing to see him.
I could not go in the house for two years.
(23:07):
I could not go in his house where I had
once lived with him. This long story, it's a long ago,
like twenty ten, fifteen years ago. What whilst with him
to use the correct English Old English King's English. We
sat outside in concentric kind of formation with tent chairs.
(23:30):
He would have this really sophisticated N ninety five mask
on outdoors. I couldn't get within like ten feet of them,
couldn't hug my dad, couldn't shake his hand.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
You think these are small thing. Maybe you don't. Maybe
you know that that's not a small thing.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
But the fear that was instilled by the mainstream media,
reinforced by a science in quotes by doctor Fauci that
was anything but perpetuated this mythology.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
That's what we were dealing. It was mythology.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
And there's those that believed in it, folks, there are
still those who probably have their Fauci prayer candles. Yeah,
the absolute madness of it all and what is what
is the common thread here?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
And I'm not a real religious guy. I'm somewhat.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
I would consider myself a Christian, but I've gotten a
lot more religious because of how little religion these people had.
Why is that important? This became their religion. Faucism became
like MAO is like a religion that's substituted for faith
in a higher power.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
It is their ideology. They cling to.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
This, and it's it's so many things across the spectrum
for the left, for the atheistic, secular left, that they
rather than putting their faith in God or trusting, you know,
in their own instincts. The science is their God, but
it's not really science. That's the tragedy of it all.
And I want to get into this. I think i'll
(25:01):
take a break early, but we'll get to a text
as well. I think this came in for Alexa, and
she texted me directly the following this posted in the
thing is I question everything now I kind of did before.
I really do know anything we're told. I'm like, eh,
I don't think I believe you.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
You lied to me. You know, you lied to me.
That's it.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
And that's for anything with anyone across the board. If
I find you lied to me, we're kind of done here.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
You know.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
And that means CDC, that means NIH, that means HHS.
And that's why I'm so glad that RFK Junior is
in charge of it, because he's rebuilding trust. But it's
got to start somewhere, and it's not going to be
rebuilt in the day. BREAKING get the flu shot and
you are twenty seven percent more likely to get the flu.
I've seen these reports before. I don't get the flu shots.
I'm definitely not going to get them now that I mean,
(25:48):
congratulations the science. Somebody like me that wants to believe
in science, that wants to believe that these health organizations
would do things for the greater good and in there
our best entry, but do anything. But you lost me.
You had me, then you lost me. Let's get to
this text right here.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Here, Ryan, Well, go ahead, as you say, while you're
searching for that, just remember watching in real time as
well that Hey, some of us got sent home from
work because we knew somebody who knew somebody who knew
somebody who may have gotten tested or may not have
gotten tested by it. They had it, So you get
sent home. But then a year or so later, Hey,
(26:32):
if you have COVID, as long as you're not showing
any symptoms, change you're asked to work.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
So what changed? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
You know, you get four times removed from somebody not
even having COVID, and you go home to you have COVID,
get your ass to work.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Just remember, just remember those things still the same virus.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Ryan, Removing it from recommendation doesn't mean you can't get it.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Does it mean the shot for COVID you can get
all the shots you are. It's free country.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I would not recommend it personally, again, big asterisk. Unless
you have comorbidities like my father, then then it's probably
in your best interest to do it. But if you're
a reasonably healthy person a middle aged or younger, no,
I don't think it's worth it. I don't think it's
worth it. Alexa texted this, Ryan. I tried to warn
(27:19):
people about the job. Yeah, I got warned. Too many
did not listen. I did not say anything negative to
people who.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Got the job.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I really respect people like you MDB and Mandy who
after getting the.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
JAB saw the truth.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
But I have no respect for those who yelled then
still are yelling that I'd be killing grandma and no
one ever answered. Where did the flu go in twenty twenty? Yeah,
they were all COVID cases because money follow the money.
That's where all the funding was. You were going to
get the funding if you had flu cases, maybe you
had COVID cases, ching ching, Ryan, you are the first
(27:51):
person I've heard acknowledged the error of relenting to the
injection hype and apologize. I've been waiting for someone to
acknowledge that since March or twenty twenty thank you. I'm
a data driven sort of fellow, and the data told
the whole story almost immediately. I didn't buy the BS
for a moment, and I helped my neighbors in social
circle walk through the whole thing unafraid. Very frustrating period
(28:12):
of time for America, in the whole world, And what
I would say to it is never again.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I will never again be duped in that way.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
I've already lost my mother, and I have a lot
of regrets about what I did to my own body,
and I wish I.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Could take it out of my body.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
I can't, though I made the decision. That was my decision,
and I own it.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Ryan.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
In twenty nineteen, I researched the COVID outbreak in Europe.
The recommendations of the virology community was to get your
sarm D three level above sixty and follow general cleanliness procedures.
There were no PSAs about vitamin D three.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Back when I was still on the Rick Lewis Show
in the morning prior to the whole COVID thing. When
it was happening in real time is February or March,
right before it got really big and terrible and scary.
Had a doctor on who said that exact same thing. Hey,
the people that are not dying, their D three levels
(29:09):
are where they are, are where they should be. They're
above X amount. They say sixty here, so I will
choose to believe that. But they're like, yeah, anybody who
is concerned about COVID take D.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Three, Take D three, Drink whole milk, get a lot
of sunshine. Those are your sources of vitamin D thing.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
And this was a doctor that we had on air
say this prior to the whole lockdown, any of that
kind of crazy crap.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Even going back one hundred years prior to the influenza
epidemic in World War One, one of the things that
they did was they had people go outside and get sunshine.
That was actually a correct diagnosis. At that time in medicine,
we didn't have nearly what we have today. We didn't
have fake vaccines either back then. So there's that a
time out. We're back wrapping up our number one with
(29:53):
more of your text than doctor Leanna when who's still
questioning RFK Junior about some things, even though she's one
of those. Is the flippity flop from one side to
the other on all these lockdowns recommendations MASSTCA, so she's.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
A phony, free fake as well.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
The situation without Michael Brown Ryan Shuling filling in on
this Wednesday edition, We're back after.
Speaker 9 (30:13):
This Bryan and Dragon, good morning. Just think about it.
Our lives mean nothing to the government and to the elite.
We're just pawns. They wanted to inject us with poison
and keep life saving medicine like I we meed in
away from us. Anybody that believes the government is for
us has got their head buried in the sand. Have
(30:36):
a good day.
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Trusting the experts is not a feature of science. It's
not a feature of democracy. It's a feature of religion
and totalitarianism. What we should do is trust the science,
and we are going to do the science, and the
science is going to be replicable and it's going to
be gold standard. People should not be taking medical advice.
(31:00):
I'm somebody who is not a physician, but they and
they should also be skeptical about any medical advice. They
need to do their own research.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I love this guy, RFK Junior spot on and to
the talkbackers point, that is one guy I do trust.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Can it Can I jump back to what he said
to about the ibromactinism because they were they were saying, Hey,
it's it's you're using that product off label. Stop using
as an off label product. It's not horse, it's horse
d wormer. I just want to throw out a reminder
as to what other major medications out there on the
market right now that a lot of people use that
are off label. Viagra, Oh, viagra is a heart right,
(31:40):
and ozembic that's a diabetes that's right, it's great. But
they have side effects. Each of those have a side
effect that everybody seems to enjoy and a side benefit, right,
a little little boner pill or weight loss. But that's
not what they were initially attendant for. So far are
we so upset about ibmcted. That may not be what
it was initially attended for, but it works as to help.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Fight COVID right, and Joe Rogan this and not that.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Think about how much heat Joe Rogan took from Anderson Cooper,
so called serious journalists and others just openly mocking him
and driving his reputation to the ground. And as it
turns out, Joe Rogan was right, and Joe Rogan's physicians
were right to consider alternative methods that ivermectin didn't have
a lot of side effects to your point, Dragon, but
(32:29):
those potential benefit Doctor Leanna when was one of those
who backed the mocking of OURFK junior of Joe Rogan,
And she's a bit confused. Why is RFK junior encouraging
skepticism of the medical community.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Doctor n what do you think of that message?
Speaker 10 (32:45):
Well, I'm confused by that message, and I bet that
many people are confused about this too. Look, I'm a clinician.
I talked to my colleagues for physicians and nurses all
the time, and yes, we do our own research, and
yes we look at scientific.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Guards goals and we parse through them.
Speaker 10 (33:01):
We look at recommendations.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
But the thing is, there.
Speaker 10 (33:04):
Are lots of different clinical topics. It's not reasonable to
expect that even clinicians and scientists look at the medical
literature all the time and parse through the literature ourselves
on every single topic. This is the reason why we
look to guidelines. There are medical organizations that synthesize these data.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Do they though, or do they invent it out of
whole class? And what she's suggesting that they just don't
have time to go through all the medical evidence trials
and paperwork itself. That's even more reason to be skeptical
that prooves are. Of K Junior's point, So does.
Speaker 10 (33:37):
This, by the way, we looked up to the CDC,
or at least throughout history, we have looked up to
the CDC, which to compile these studies for US and
to make recommendations. And this we have always throughout history
depended on our federal agencies as the gold standard for expertise,
for information, for unbiased scientific data. And so it's very
(34:00):
confusing and quite distressing actually to hear the person who
heads up these agencies to whom these agencies report now
say that expertise cannot be trusted. I'm confused because it
leaves people wondering, well, what sources of information can I trust?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Not the CDC or the FDA or the who Not
you doctor Lena wn who backtracked on COVID lockdowns. The
video evidence is out there, You're indicted, And I, for one,
find it comforting reassuring that RFK Junior says, Look, I'm
heading up this agency, ahs, but be skeptical of us,
(34:38):
hold us to account. You know, we're going to do
our very best but it needs to be science driven.
And that's that's what the bottom line of what I'm
getting at is what RFK Junior is saying and why
he's so right, is you trust the science, the science,
not doctor Fauci.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
He isn't the science.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
You trust the scientific method you trust the research methodology
and the results they're in.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
But you continue to.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Test the science, questioning the science is the science. That's
what science is. You don't just take it carte blanche
and go back it's over. We're gonna stop questioning everything. No,
you question everything to the very last, and you don't
trust the experts. Doctor went Yes, they might be compromised,
(35:24):
these people in the CDC, the FDA, the HHS. I
believe wholeheartedly that RFKA Junior is looking to root out
that corruption.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
But it's there, it exists.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
They answered a big pharma to our talkbackers, point to
many of our texters that are coming in.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
You are right to question and be skeptical. The gold
standard should be a high bar. It should be earned,
not just given their trust. Our trust in them has
been broken. It's up to them to fix it, not us.
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