6-2-25 - 8am - The Sign of the Decay of Society

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mostly peaceful Muslim remember mostly peaceful.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Mostly peaceful riots too, you know, I maybe I will.
But on Saturday, if you want to listen to it,
I talked about because it happened. Why I was down
at the undisclosed location was the five year anniversary of
the mostly peaceful summer of violence. Seems like an oxymoron,

(00:29):
but why do I know the mostly peaceful summer of violence?
With the death of George Floyd, we're talking about how
this absolute tidal way tsunami of anti Semitism can be

(00:50):
looked at solely as these are acts of anti Semitism,
which indeed they are. I think they're much greater than that.
These are acts of terrorism. This is about ideology, and
it is about the destruction of Western civilization. This is

(01:12):
it's kind of like and I'm not I'm not really
sure I wanted to live in this period of our nation.
But part of me is part of me is very grateful,
grateful for the fact that I have a microphone, get
a great audience locally and nationally, and it gives me

(01:34):
the opportunity to really, I hope describe to you. My
idea is about what is this period that we're living
in what does it mean historically, not just for us
like right now. I mean, there's there's there's so many
tentacles to this story. And you're right, it's it's about

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mostly peaceful Muslims. It's about anti Semitism, it's about self defense,
it's about the future of Western civilization. It's about the
spread of Marxism. You know, I've seen a lot of
stories or anecdotes about how the term Marxism is overused,

(02:26):
and every time I read those stories, I think, wait
a minute, what you're describing that people are attaching the
word Marxism to is precisely the very definition of Marxism.
And we live in a country where we like to
pretend that we live in a pluralistic society that is

(02:52):
a small r republican form of government, and that we
have all of these rights and freedoms. We have this
individual liberty and individual freedom. And truthfully, if you, if
you objectively step back, what's happening is we're so dumb, fat,
and happy right now because we have all of this

(03:14):
modern technology. We have cooled homes, heated homes, we have
amazing modes of transportation. And I'm not talking about our
TD I'm talking about the freedom, the freedom to travel,
and not just travel, but you know, I can I
can get on I can get on a plane. I
can go out to the airport to bring on a

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schedule and jump on a direct flight to London and
be in London in well from Denver, probably eight hours
from the East coast. You know, if I left from
Dulls be in London in six hours. Or I can
go from New York to la I can go, you know,
in Chicago a few weeks ago. It's and when you

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think about everything that we have available to us commercially,
whether that's what we eat, what we wear, what we drive,
how we live, how we recreate, how we do everything,
it's it's fascinating. And while all of that's going on underneath,

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is this subtle yet persistent, truly persistent erosion of all
of those things, and we don't really take time to
reflect on it and realize what it means for the future.

(04:42):
Go back to MSNBC for a moment, So ms you know,
you heard Jamie Raskin and you heard Andy McCabe both
talking about well, not so much Raskin, but Raskin's Raskin's
first solution. His first thought was, which shows you the

(05:02):
mindset of any congressman, Republican or Democrat, conservative or liberal.
I don't care. This is the first thought of any congressman. Oh,
let me introduce a bill to spend some money to
solve the problem. Money's not going to solve this problem.
This problem is going to be solved individual by individual,

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and each of us has to recognize what's happening in
order to oppose what's happening. So Raskin's response was, Oh,
let me get Congress to spend some money to protect synagogues.
Andy McCabe, who obviously has a vested interests in trying
to tear down Donald Trump and Cash Betel immediately faults

(05:45):
the FBI, who probably had more information at the moment
that they declared it a terrorist incident than the police
chief and Boulder did, primarily because we weren't dealing with
an American citizen. We were dealing with somebody who was
here on an expired visa, who had overstayed his visa,
who was a foreign national illegally in this country. And

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so the FBI instantaneously knew from either DHS or the
State Department, Oh, we've got something going on in terms
of terrorism, an an MSNBC security analyst in the same program.
This was yesterday. The timestamp is m I can't find

(06:37):
a timestamp on this one. Anyway, it was there. It
was their weekend programming, so it wasn't late at night.
It was probably sometime, you know, mid afternoon, so late
in the even or early early evening, late afternoon East Coast,
probably an hour or two after the incident occurred in Boat.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Let's bring into the conversation ATS special Agent Jim Kavanaugh,
who joins us now. Jim, I'm not sure if you
had a chance to hear that whole briefing, of that
whole update from the police chief, but certainly a very
significant incident, very significant attack in Boulder, Colorade of this afternoon, right.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
You know, I heard the press briefing. The chief was
trying to give us some you know information, They have
a one man in custody. It was a you know,
an active you know, demonstration for hostages and Gaza, so
a pro Israeli or four Israeli hostages, and that event

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was attacked, apparently according to the chief, by a man
trying to set protesters on fire. You know, we're not
clear aiming whether they were using molotov cocktails. That's kind
of a normal way to attack people with fire, by
throwing incendiary devices on them, you know, breaking and lighting fires.

(08:00):
That may have been what happened. It's hard to you know,
throw fire, so malotov cocktail is usually the device. Multiple injuries,
as you reported, Uh, FBI making public statements that it's
a terrorist event, which you know probably is pretty obvious
when we have, you know, this this political side of

(08:21):
the coin in this in this world event. We all
know about the war in Gaza and the situation.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
There, so.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
FBI is going to be heavy on that. Of course,
we're going to have atf there as well. You're going
to have the state police and the Bolder police, and
they have the man. They haven't made a custody, so
you know, you're going to make some progress here on
a prosecution. Uh. They didn't tell us about any other
weapons just yet, so we're have to wait and see.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Jim, how common is it that the FBI would declare
something a terror attack and the local police department would say,
we're not quite there yet.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
I would have guessed that they would.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
Be on the same page before having a press release
or a press conference.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well, normally FBI is very reserved about that because you know,
they want to meet the definition of what is a
terrorism of federal crimate terrorism, And basically what it is
is it's someone who intimidates or attacks someone for the
purpose to coerce a civilian population or course a government.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Very succinct definition ideologically trying to coerce individuals or a
government pre standard fare. You're using a homemade flamethrower and
throwing mos off cocktails at both Jews and Gentile. I
soon there's some Gentiles in this in this event that

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takes place, and their purpose is to show support for
hostages held in Gaza by a foreign terrorist organization. AMAS
if you're attacking the people who who are trying to
support the hostages, show support for them, to raise public

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awareness that there are still hostages being held in your
supporting that, and so you go through molotov cocktails at
them and try to light them on fire. Yeah, I
think it pretty well beats the definition of terrorism, even
without knowing the nationality or the immigration status of the perp.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
That's what's needed for a charge of terrorism. I remember
what we're talking about here is just a charge because
you know, a molotov cocktail is against federal law. That's
the law of ATF and forces all the time. So
you know it's against federal law to do that. If
the motivation is to course the civilian population or course

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the government the conduct of government, then the charge of
terrorism can be levied by the US attorney. I think
the FBI is saying this because the nature of the event,
you know, it's sort of an obvious this really looks
like terrorism. And I would say they're right about that,
and he's right.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
And the reason that earlier programs on MSNBC don't want
to do that is because this doesn't fit their narrative.
Oh so we've got another attack on Jews. We have
another incident of anti semitism, and that is another continuation

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in the erosion of pluralism and tolerance in Western civilization.
Think about the campus climate. Have you ever really stopped
and just thought about I know, we become so inundated
with the news and it I'm guilty of it too. Oh,
there's another protest at Columbia, There's another protest at Harvard,

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There's another protest wherever. Just I don't care to name
the school, and you kind of get the narrative, You
kind of get you know, the wholat, where, when and
why about whatever's going on. But beyond that it just
becomes noise. Well, as I said earlier, college campuses, I
always thought of both, you know, my undergrad and my

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law school, both of those campuses of being really places
of open discourse. And in all, both undergrad and law school,
I had a very diverse study group, group of friends, Iranians, Persians, Muslims,

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even had some Baptists. Yeah, has some Baptists. It probably
has some atheists in there too. We take CU Boulder.
The Ethnic Studied Department's initial statement of Palestine was criticized
for implicitly endorsing narratives that Jewish groups found anti Semitic.

Speaker 5 (13:01):
Well, what does that do?

Speaker 2 (13:02):
That fosters on CU Boulder a hostile environment, the very
opposite of a hub of open discourse. And those incidents,
and this incident in particular, is going to alienate Jewish
students and faculty, which in turn then weakens the intellectual
diversity that is essential to academic inquiry and to democratic societies,

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or to even broader Western civilization. Because the people who
are attending those institutions of higher learning in order to
earn a degree in whatever their I don't even care
what their degree is, but they're there to earn a

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degree so that they can use that degree as you
as their bona fides to go on to do whatever
it is they want to do. And that is being destroyed.
It's becoming meaningless, and that is also a threat to
a much largers take it out just from college campuses,

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that becomes a threat to democratic institutions. Anti Semitism has historically,
listen closely, has been a precursor to broader societal decay.
Anti Semitism is the canary in the coal mine for

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democratic erosion. And this resurgence of anti semitism, the anti
Semitic tropes, the violence, the challenges, the challenges the rule
of law, the challenges free speech, that even challenges institutional accountability.
That's the canary in the coal mine. And that's what

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we're watching. And why do they choose When I say they,
I mean, why do the Marxist choose to pick on
the Jews. They're an easy target, they have the history
of being persecuted, and it's a way to normalize hate

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the Anti Defamation League I don't always agree with everything
they say or do, has reported over a forty eight
percent year over year increase in anti semitic incidents. Where
do you think I'm going to say a forty eight
percent year over year increase? Just in our area, Colorado,

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New Mexico, and Wyoming. From twenty twenty three to twenty
twenty four, we saw almost a fifty percent increase. That
is a forty year high. Now, some surveys, again by
the ADEL and others, show that twenty percent of Americans
in twenty twenty two believed six or more anti semitic tropes.

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That's an increase of almost ten percent from twenty nineteen.
So what does that represent? That represents a normalization of hate,
and that normalization gets amplified by social media, and it
gets amplified because nobody ever challenges it. Where do you?
Where would you go? In all honesty? Where would you go?

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Now?

Speaker 2 (16:35):
There are other places, but I'm just asking you, because
you happen to be listening to this program, where would
you go to hear what I'm saying? You're not going
to hear it on MSNBC. You're not going to hear
it on the networks. You might read about it on
some of the conservative websites, and you might hear about

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it obviously from other talk show in this market or
in other markets who believe as I do. But remember,
we're the minority. We're the minority in terms of those
who seek out that kind of information. Two, there's too

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many walking dead among us. And the walking dead allow
that normalization of hate. They allow, in fact, they soak
up the amplification that's on social media. They consume the
unchallenged rhetoric, and all of that begins to desensitize. It

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desensitizes people to prejudice. And what does that do? And
here's the line to remember that paves the way for
authoritarian ideologies that thrive on scapegoating minority. Hey Michael, just
forgive us, well just your big Facebook's so file up
that's being shown on national television. Says that he's married,

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has a picture of his family. The last caption was free.
My husband says the Facebook profile picture had just been updated.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
There's a hurdle of a guy using flamethrower and he
wants twenty dollars to support the cost. Is she here legally?

Speaker 2 (18:21):
And where's that money being laundered through twenty bucks twenty
bucks to support the cause. Okay, so let's go back.
I want to finish this up because this is a
much bigger problem, and it's the sign of the decay

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of our society in general. And I wish I knew.
I wish I could give you like ten steps, or
three steps, or maybe one step. I wish i'd give
you any steps to help us reverse this. The only
thing I can for you is information, a perspective, and

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some sort of desire that you'll internalize that and recognize
it so that as you go about your sphere of influence,
however large or small it may be, is totally irrelevant,
and that you will counter this destruction of Western civilization.
I know it seems kind of silly, but it is.

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You know, Western civilization exists because each of each of us, individually,
either consciously or unconsciously, buy into these principles that create
Western civilization. And unless we internalize those principles, live by
those principles, and then demand that our government do the same,

(19:53):
we're doomed. Happy Monday, everybody, Happy Monday. So I talked
about the normalization of hate in that last segment, well,
let's talk about the complicity of our various institutions in
all of this. And let's start with the universities. And

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when I say universities, I'm not talking about Harvard. I'm
talking about CU, I'm talking about Metro State, I'm talking
about CU Pueblo, I'm talking I'm talking about Front Range
Community College. I'm talking about every little school everywhere, because
you will find these Marxist professors everywhere you look. But

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let's focus for a moment on CEEU Boulder. They got
to b be asm. Boy, they are bism. Bravo to
be NATO fanatically correct. They got a B grade in
the Anti Defamition Leagues Leagues twenty twenty five Campus Anti

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Semitism Report Card A B. Now, I know it's above average, right,
it's not an A, but it's not a C. That
B indicates that there's progress but ongoing concerns. Do you
know that Colorado College, of all places, got a D

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delta D Now primarily because they had deficient responses, so
they probably didn't take the survey seriously. Excuse me, But
when these institutions failed to address anti semitism decisively, such
as by just tolerating discriminatory student group policies or tolerating

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protest encampments that exclude Jews like you see at UCLA
for example. That undermines trust in governance, and in turn
that then emboldens those extremist movements to take hold in
those institutions. And that's what we see happening in Columbia,

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Harvard and all these other places that we keep hearing
about on the national news. It allows and when those
extremist movements take hold, that's when authoritarianism steps in. And
we have to be very very careful that we don't

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ourselves turn to authoritarianism as a way to counter the
extremism that's being inculcated in these students. And you know,
let me speak with a little caution here, so you

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know that I have to take these training courses all
the time, training courses about you know, diversity, and you know,
what's personal information and what's sensitive information, and is I'm
taking one of these courses last night, I'm thinking what, Well,
first of all, I took it as I normally took it.

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I just turned it on and just clicked the button.
I'm not sure how many answers I got right, because
it didn't make any difference, doesn't dragon. It doesn't make
any difference whether you get all the answers wrong and
all the answers right.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
It even specified at one point in time this isn't
the graded or whatever.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
I didn't even notice that because I didn't even I
didn't even read the instructions because it's just like, oh,
it's not one of those training courses.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
Don't be afraid of getting something wrong.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
It's not get the red arrow, hit the turn the volume,
turn the volume up just enough so that I know
when they've stopped speaking. So I didn't hit the red arrow.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
That's exactly what I do here on this show.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
Screw you. And as I and as I looked at
some of the stuff that was being because occasionally i'd like,
i'd see a word, you know, equity would catch my eye,
so i'd read that paragraph.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
It's everywhere, and I'm sure it's in your business, your organization,
wherever it is. But it's just this subtle linguistic use
of words that and maybe I'm just paranoid. As I
check over my shoulder, check the door, see check drag,

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would you check my key cart? Just check to see
if I'm still here? It's just this subtle reminder, and
it's a subtle that if you don't stop and think
about it, you realize that, oh, they've got the same
or they're advocating the very things that I'm preaching against.

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So back to like to see you getting a grade
of bravo in anti Semitism report card. You can find
almost any number of scholars that will tell you that

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anti Semitism has almost always foreshadowed societal collapse. Now why
would that be? Because it reflects a willingness to abandon
reason and it's evidence for conspiracy theories. How many conspiracy
theories of you encountered this in the past week. And
then you get the spread of tropes about Jewish power

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or disloyalty, and that mirrors historical patterns that fuel those
totalitarian regimes, all of which threatened the democratic norms of
Western civilization. That's what's taking place right before our very eyes,
and they do that. I would say probably the third

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way is undermining intellectual freedom. And while when you hear
the phrase intellectual freedom, you may think that I'm talking
solely about institutions of higher learning, I'm not. I'm talking
about intellectual freedom everywhere intellectual freedom driven by how you

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are propagandized, the stuff that's that fills your brain every day.
If you're consuming social media, you're consuming the network. Well,
you're consuming the cabal shortened phrase, you're consuming the cabal.
It's trying to undermine your intellectual freedom, and it's done

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in so many different ways. You see, Western civilization has
has long valued this concept of free inquiry and the
pursuit of truth through debate. But you take anti semitism
on campuses, that's often intertwined with anti Israeli activism, and

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then that stifles open discourse by creating those environments where
certain perspectives Jewish are silenced, they're punished, or they're attacked,
all of which is, in a phrase, a chilling effect
on speech. Again, going back to the First Amendment, the

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First Amendment embodies one of the primary foundations of Western civilization.
When Jewish students and faculty, for example, report feeding unsafe
expressing their identities or their views on Israel because they're
afraid of harassment, or because they're even prevented from doing
so because of exclusionary policies. Take Berkeley, for example, student

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groups have adopted by laws requiring members to denounce Zionism. Well,
if that's part of the requirement to join a student group,
you've effectively excluded many, if not almost all, Jews from participating.

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Will that creates, say, Jewish free zone. Similarly, at CU
Boulder protest by groups like Students for Justice in Palestine,
they've been rightly criticized for promoting rhetoric that intimidates Jewish students.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
Now, if that's.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Going on just down the street from Pearl Street Mall,
why are we surprised about what happened over the weekend.
We're just shocked because we felt insulated. Right, I never
felt insulated, but I know many people do feel insulatly.
Oh it's Columbia. Oh it's Berkeley. Oh it's Harvard. Oh

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it's Princeton. It's somewhere else. No, it's right here. And
if you want to this is not in my notes,
but this thought just ran through my brain. If you
want to recognize how it's all intertwined, look at the
mark coming out of the corner of Colfax Broadway the

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Colorado State Capitol. Look at the Marxism coming out of
that building where they want to just for example, they
want to limit you as an individual, the information that
you can get under the Colorado Open Records Act, just
because they want to keep that for them. They don't
want you to know about what they're doing. You don't

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get much more Marxist than that, all of which undermines
the basic pillar of Western civilization, embodying the Magna carta
free speech. But they're also cultural and moral implications too. Well.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
You're surrounded by the heathen, and many amongst us.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Are too stupid to survive good day. I know, I
look at Dragon every time, every day, and I think,
oh my go gosh, what a heathen, what a what
a totally ignoramus. And he just sits back there and
his mind's already somewhere.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
And you know, you tell you about me?

Speaker 2 (30:07):
What what you say? No? Nothing, I just want to
see how you're doing.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Now.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
I'm still here, are you physically?

Speaker 2 (30:13):
You're still here? Yeah? Yeah, okay, yeah? Are you packed yet? Missus?

Speaker 4 (30:18):
Redbeard is I'm a guy. I'll wait until ten minutes
before we leave and go all right, this is good.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
And all you're doing is taking the same short sneakers
and T shirts that you wear here, right pretty much? Yeah? Yeah,
you know what I want? I have one simple request
from missus Red. I need to text her. I have
one simple request. Okay, when you get you're going from

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Solo Tokyo.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Right, Yeah, we'll make our way around you know, Nagasaki, Hiroshima, but.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Eventually you get to Tokyo. Yeah, and there there you'll
probably go to one of two or three famous tourist
places in Tokyo. Most likely one of them is this
gigantic intersection. Yeah, that just has millions of people always traversing.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
Right.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
I want as you're crossing, I want her to step
back away from you, and I just want a photo
of the crowd with you in the middle of the crowd,
so that I can see the bald headed red beard
wizard standing about two or three feet taller than everybody
else in that crowd. Or if you go to the

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fish market, same thing.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
The only thing that you want from my vacation is
a photo of me. That's that's a little sick there, buddy.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
No, I've been to all those places. I I I
one of my favorite one of my favorite photographs is
a photograph of my grandson when I took him to Tokyo.
We're at the fish market and I'm thinking wait a minute,
I've lost track. Where is he? And I look ahead
and I see, oh, here's this long haired teenager that

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stands about because he's giant, about three feet above everybody
else in the crowd. So I snap a picture from behind,
just the back of it, just from the back of
just this, and of course I know it's him standing
above everybody else's a fish market.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
I'm not exactly tall at five foot ten.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
But over there, but considering Asian black hair, and you're
gonna be I mean, you're an oddball anyway, thank you,
but you're going to be the odd ball depending on
who's in that group with you. Well, concerning who you're
going with, there are at least two odd balls. And
I'm not referring to missus Redbeard, but for the host

(32:42):
that you're traveling with, so there's that, there'll be the
blonde odd ball, the red o ball. So yeah, we
want photos. This the spade, the spade, and then we're
going to move on. But this, spite of anti Semitism
in places like Boulder and for that matter, just all

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over the country, really does threaten civilization by eroding pluralism,
is undermining these democratic institutions that we so cherish. It's
stifling intellectual freedom, it's challenging moral consistency, and it's exacerbating

(33:25):
societal instability. You know that we all have this feeling
that everything right now is just unstable. Well, the anti
Semitism is one of the compounds, one of the things
that is creating this societal instability. And the whole purpose

(33:46):
of Marxism is to create instability so you can install authoritarianism,
and that's what we're living in right now. It's just
that one of those chickens came home to roost thirty
miles from here. That's all pay attention