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June 3, 2025 • 30 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Michael, I believe I just heard you say nuculi. I
have never heard that uttered before. It's kind of like
fingernails on a shockboard. Nuclei. Least try to say nuclei.
Sim He was referring to the singular of nuclear, you know.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
In U C L e IU. I think it is nuclei.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Nu quli.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Nuclear nuclear nucli little organisms. Yeah, potato, yeah, tomato. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
So here we know that there's the Antarctic. Antarcticays has
experiencing a massive expansion, and that's not just you know,
a bunch of wack jobs out there. Well, I guess
maybe it is whack jobs because it's a bunch of
NASA scientists. And then the scientists at the University of
Helsinki publish a study that they have a new solution
to the loss of Arctic ice. And obviously, you know,

(01:10):
you get government grants, you're gonna get whatever the government
grant wants when you do the study. So they wanted
to find out how much ammonia from penguin guano contributes
to atmospheric processes and Antarctica. So they did all this
measurement to find out, you know, exactly what it does.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
The reason that's important is because ammonia in the atmosphere
is a key ingredient in forming the aerosols, and those
particles are essential for creating the cloud condensation nugai, which
allow water vapor to condense and inform the clouds. And
you form the clouds and you get moisture, and you

(01:54):
get more ice, and you get more rain. Of course,
you get more reflection of the sun back into the
uh backed out into space. So it's just it's just
it's this whole mechanism of everything going on because more
clouds can reflect sunlight therefore reduce temperatures, which you know,
I thought, since we're is it global warming or global cooling,

(02:17):
we're worried about which one is it? Because clouds can
reflect the sunlight and reduce the surface temperatures. So if
you reduce surface temperatures, doesn't that give us global cooling,
which is the opposite global warming.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
I thought that's what we wanted.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
But the point is it makes the whole process highly
relevant for sea ice retention and climate regulation naturally in
the polar environment. But then we find out that ammonia
has been underrepresented in the climate models, especially in those
remote areas like Antarctica. So the study recorded all those

(02:55):
levels of ammonia and they found that where the penguin
colonies were, that the ammonia concentrations were more than a
thousand times what the normal background levels were. And even
after the penguins that migrated moved on the soil enrich
with all that guano, just kept emitting ammonia for weeks
and weeks, and that surprised the researchers, and their data

(03:20):
confirmed that these penguin hotspots around Antarctica could release ammonia
levels comparable to those found in agricultural fields where you're
growing any number of agricultural products during the summertime and
the emissions are not evenly spread out. They come in
these bursts for some reason, I have no clue. It

(03:42):
just points out that they come out in bursts and
culy they tie it to changes in wind direction. That
means that penguin poop can create regional plumes of cloud
forming particles even after the birds have left. And then

(04:03):
the ammonia acts with other nitrogen rich gases which they
also found in these cluster formation processes, and the researchers
noted that for example, sulfuric acid and ammonia dominated all
the cluster compositions that they kept studying. That all suggested

(04:25):
that there was a multi component mechanism, with both ammonia
and all the DMAs and everything else contributing.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
In different ways.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Iodine different forms of iodine all play supporting roles. All
the compounds sourced from ocean life and sea ice chemistry
all found to influence particle formation during the spring and autumn,
but during the summer study, ammonia and sulfur dominated the process. So,

(05:00):
when you think about it, clouds control how much sunlight
reaches the surface and how much heat escapes into space
down in the polar climate system, those clouds can mean
the difference between melting ice and stable conditions. So the
studi's measurements showed that the penguin driven poop driven ammonium

(05:25):
missions initiated this cascade of chemical events that all resulted
in the formation of visible cloud formations, including fog in
the Antarctic and all that could last for days. So
by emitting ammonia at such high levels, penguins are effectively

(05:47):
modulating local cloud properties. Now, if that's true, which these
you know, take the scientists at face value. Huh, so
the penguins are responsible indirectly at least by pooping for
the Arctic ice growing. I don't want to play the

(06:09):
whole thing. I found it funny that they had what
was the source of all of this a YouTube. It's
not melting too fast, it's actually expanding, and penguin poop
is helping form the clouds all because of the ammonia.
Yet ammonia is never included in the climate models that

(06:32):
tell us about how bad climate change and global warming
are occurring.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
HM.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
So maybe if we just let the penguins go ahead
and poop and form the clouds and start putting ammonia
into the climate models, we'll find out that, oh yeah,
the climate may still be changing, but it's not nearly
as dressic as we thought it was, and things may
actually work out for the best.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
HM.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Imagine that speaking of the climate, as we've seen, for example,
Toyota and Ford, those consumers are much more willing to invest,
apparently in competitively priced hybrids than they are in either
an EV or a plug in hybrid, and those are

(07:26):
gradually fading away from the scene. Another example of how
if we would just let the free market kind of
dictate where we're going.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
We would recognize that. Oh, it seems to me that.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
The consumers are telling us that one, they don't really
believe all of the hoopla about climate change, and that
they're not buying the evs. Oh, they might buy a
hybrid because a hybrid is not going all the way in. Oh,
I've still got the reliability of an internal combustion engine.

(08:00):
And if I want to coast along on a battery
for a while and save a little bit on guess I.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Can do that too.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
So the US Energy Information Administration, one of Dragon's favorite websites,
that rare government entity that the Biden people actually didn't
corrupt completely, I don't think, published a strong report this
past Friday, was on vacation detailing the realities that are
evolving in the automobile industry that those worth sharing. The

(08:29):
headline is hybrid vehicle sales continue to rise as electric
and plug in vehicle shares remain flat. Now that's the headline,
but they start out with a graph quarterly US light
duty vehicle sales by powertrain hybrid electrics. Now they're increasing

(08:52):
twelve percent. Battery electric electrics have dropped from what appears
to be oh, I'd say about eight and a half
percent to about seven and a half percent, and plug
in hybrids their way down in less than two percent.
About twenty two percent of light duty vehicles so in
the first quarter of the year were hybrid battery electric

(09:14):
could plug in up from eighteen percent in the first quarter,
so up about four percent. Vehicles technology by TIPE, the
largest obviously is still the internal combustion vehicles gasoline, diesel,
natural gas, propane, biofuels, all of that. But the decrease
in EV sales was driven by declining sales of battery

(09:38):
electric models such as the Honda Prologue, the Chevy Equinox,
the Tesla Model Y. Those declines those were offset a
little bit by increased sales of other battery electric models
such as the Volkswagon and Toyota.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
That both have those kinds of things now.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Since sales figures in any year are relatively small compared
with the total number of vehicles of the road, EV
share of the total light duty vehicle fleet is much
less than the recent ten percent sales share. They say
that in their monthly Energy Review, we maintain annual data

(10:20):
series on light duty vehicles battery evs, plug in hybrids,
and hydrogen fuel sell electric vehicles. Based on data from
SMP Global. In twenty twenty three, the most recent data year,
EV vehicles accounted for less than two percent of all

(10:42):
vehicles in the United States.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
That's it. That's all. That's all I got to say
about it.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
But last night, as we were watching there's a serious
tamer's watching that I'm kind of half assed watching called
mob Land. It's got hell Mirran in it and Pierce Broslyn,
So you got here, Helen Mirren and James Bond playing
in this series about mob families having a fight in

(11:08):
the UK. Tom Hardy's in it too. I don't know why,
but at some point I realized that in the car chases. Now,
I don't know I can guess the politics of Pierce
Broslin or Helen Miron or for that matter, Tom Hardy,
but I can certainly guess the political ideology of the

(11:33):
producers and the writers and all the people that go
into the production of this television series.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Left Leaning not one EV vehicle.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
I as I was going through this story, I thought, oh,
let's watch and see because there's always there's always a
car chase people are always getting in and out of cars,
and they were always gas powered vehicles.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
So why.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
The real world doesn't sell evs. In Hollywood, they don't
use evs. You know. I found out the other day
that Scott Adams, he and I have sort of kind
of gotten to know each other over the years. He

(12:25):
also has prostate cancer. Ran across an old cartoon of his.
Gilbert's talking to the pointed headed Boss. He says, I
recommend adding Ricky to our AI project, our artificial intelligence project.
And Gilbert turns to pointy headed Boss and says, he

(12:47):
Ricky the artificial guy. He lowers the bar on what
constitutes human intelligence, so it will be easier for us
to achieve the artificial kind. And Ricky says, I would
be on to work on a project, and the point
it boss says, okay, I see.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
What you mean.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
You see.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Natural gas.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Is poised to be one of two big winners in
the rising competition to provide reliable twenty four to seven
power generation to data centers in the United States. They're
going to be using AI, and the nature of the
rapidly evolving playing field means that natural gas likely won't
be just a temporary solution to a more permanent future

(13:32):
powered by both nukes or another currently aspirational fuel source
that who knows what.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
It would be.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
But the bottom line is that is the number and
size of power hungry AI related data centers continue to
expand and grow. Have you ever checked to see all
the different types of AI programs that are out there?
And that right now is simply amazing the number of programs.
So data center developers in these areas are discovering that

(14:00):
local power grids cannot be relied upon to fill their needs.
So what are they doing. They're developing plans for their
own workable alternative solutions, and that turns out to be
natural gas.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Now.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Over time, particularly since I would say even before the
election of Trump, as Trump starts coming back on the scene,
starts back during the campaign, the term ESG, environmental, social
and governments has really been deemphasized in the corporate lexicon.
Concerns about emissions remain them kind of a high priority,

(14:39):
but a lot of the tech firms who initially sought
to meet their needs with some combination of renewables, most
usually wind in solar combined with some sort of stationary battery.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Guess what happened.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Well, they quickly realize, uh, oh, they're just the technology
just is not there to meet their five nines requirement.
What are the five nine requirement? Their data centers have
to be remaining up and running nine point.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Of the time.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
So to meet that five to nine requirement, natural gas,
not wind and so on. You know what, I want
my run time up time to be nine. I want
natural gas too, or nukes. Mike.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
If the poop of a few hundred thousand penguins is
good for the environment, then what about the poop from
more than five hundred million chickens in the United States
at any given time, which is also loaded with ammonia?
Is that figured into anybody's model.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
No.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
In fact, chickens are just nothing but a source of
av and flue. We just need to kill all the
chickens and get rid of all the eggs. Don't eat
you know, it's like the cows on the Eat more
Chicken on chick fil A.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Cash.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Betel Dan Bongino, the director and deputy director respectively of
the FBI, have it on the television circuit lately talking
about what they're doing, talking about the Epstein files, talking
about the January sixth, Pipe Bomber and Bongino in particular

(16:27):
got a lot of heat for basically saying that one,
he doesn't care too much about the Epstein files. And
I'm paraphrasing. It's probably not fair to Dan, but he
doesn't care too much about the Epstein files. They're still
working on that, and that they have found that these
files are buried, bury buried, bury buried in the bureaucracy,

(16:51):
and they're having to, you know, take resources and reallocate
resources and do a lot of search to find out
everything that went on the how there was one Let
me just give you an example with Epstein. This is
cash and I think he was talking to Barrett specially.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
FBI leaders have said about it. Former FBI Director Chris
Roy eventually admitted to Congress there were twenty six FBI
confidential human sources in around the capital January sixth, but
not actual agents.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Can you say that's true?

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Are there more than that?

Speaker 5 (17:27):
What you're learning from that? I can say that that
is definitely a piece of the truth.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Why it took.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
A ton of time for and questioning in Congress for
the director to get that point is what I'm trying
to eliminate. From the FBI. If Congress asked you a
question under oath whether or not there were sources in
around January sixth at the Capitol, you, as a director
of the FBI, need to know that and not deflect
and give a DC answer. You have to be prepared

(17:56):
for that. And that's the answer we're giving. That's the answer,
Chris Ratio to give it. And eventually everybody's going to
know the whole picture. Yeah, because the American people deserve that.
And look, no one's more frustrated than me. Remember, I
was chief of staff of the Department of Defense. On
January sixth. We said that we were ready, and the
President had previously authorized the National Guard to be there

(18:17):
days in advance. I spent two years, a small fortune
grand juries to testify to the truth. And what happens
now years later we were right. Bowser and Pelosi rejected
that offer, and instead of figuring out how to prevent
security lapses like that ever again, the American public spent
tens of millions of dollars and countless hours on TV

(18:39):
listening to conspiracy theories because those in positions of leadership
failed to tell the American public the truth.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
But there's a lot of conspiracy theories out there.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
There are the interestin thing you dealt with Maria. You said,
as far as you know, he killed himself.

Speaker 5 (18:53):
I'm telling you he killed himself.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
So the other thing on the internet is the Ebstein files.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah, and really, who cares. I'm worse than than January
sixth pipe bomber. And they have indeed, at least he
admits on national television that they've deployed additional resources to
that investigation. They're trying to follow up on old leads
and tips, and they're actively asking the public for more

(19:20):
information as well, so they're in essence recreating the investigation,
which means is going to take time. They posted something
on X last week. I forget exactly what it was,
but there's still a half a million dollar reward for
any tip leading to the identity the arrests of the

(19:41):
pipe bomber that the very same FBI, but under the
Biden Department of Justice, despite every invasive surveillance and investigative
tool at their disposal, which indeed, they used all of
those invasive surveillance and investigative tools against every single January

(20:01):
sixer who walked into the capital for you know, eight
minutes or so, four years ago or whatever it was.
Despite all of those tools, despite all of that authority,
they still have not and never did identify a suspect. Now,
we were told from then, from testimony, and if I

(20:23):
recall correctly, from some whistleblowers, that the investigation of the
pipe bomber was very vigorous early on, and then all
of a sudden, toward the end of twenty twenty one,
interest in pursuing an individual just started to wane. It
just kind of started to fizzle out.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
I don't know why. But we also know that the former.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Head of the Washington FBI Field Office, Stephen Dan Toronto,
actually misled Congressman. He said that one of the files
from the cell one of the cell phone providers, one
of the data files had been corrupted. Now, the cell
phone companies all came back to I think it was
the Senate last year and said, no, not true.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Well, okay, if.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
It's the head of the FBI Field Office in DC
misled Congress by saying that, hey, all of the pings,
all of the data we have from all of the
you know how they collected you You've seen those maps
before where they have all of the data from the
cell phones and all the activity and where a particular
cell phone may have moved from point data point B.
Well clearly in the National Capital Region, all of that

(21:38):
is tracked. And this FBI Field office director said, oh,
but the data files were corrupted. But Verizon and T
Mobile and AT and T all came back and said, no,
that's not true. Well, now, wait a minute, which way
is it? All of the unanswered questions they've been raised

(22:03):
by the pipe, by the alleged pipe bomber, not only
why has he never been identified? Now we do know
that the devices were not viable, but I think that's
totally I material despite the FBI and the same FBI
field director saying that they were viable.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Well okay, so again, which.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Isn't now then none of this is to criticize Cash
Ptel or Dan Bongino. I don't know Patel, I know Bongino,
and I know that they're saying what they need to
say to let us knowe Hey, we're working on it
and we're trying to figure it out. But we got
to give them time. I sincerely believe we got to

(22:49):
give them time. But think about some of the quest
For example, we still don't know why what is Kamala
Harris at DNC headquarters on that day? Why she never
discussed what, at least at the time, maybe not in hindsight,
but at the time was a near death experience for her.

(23:10):
She was what a mere six feet away from from
the pipe bomb on January sixth. Remember remember AOC who
was on the other side of the mall in her
office claimed that she was almost murdered. She almost died
that day. But then you have questions about Kamala Harris.

(23:31):
I mean, why she not talked about it? What was
she doing there that day? Why she not discussed it?
How did her secret service team miss a device that
was allegedly planned the night before in full view underneath
a bush in front of two between two benches, right
in front of the DNC headquarters entrance. How how two

(23:54):
bomb sniffing canines missed the device? And kind of weird
how the woman who found the device outside the Republican
National Headquarters it's a few blocks away, just happened to
work for a public private partnership and in GEO now

(24:17):
law enforcement partnership that has just been given ninety million
dollars by the FBI. That's who she worked for. So
do you still believe in coincidences? I don't know how
you can, but I do believe that they have ratcheted
up the investigation. And Bongino, I believe he has a

(24:41):
professional I think he has a personal interest in identifying
who that individual was, because if it was the person
that we saw on the video from January five planting
the device, that we know also that video has been
uptured because Darren Beattie has also covered that in his articles. Well,

(25:07):
we found some discrepancies as well between camera angles.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Now, I.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
I just find all of this incredulous on the one hand,
But on the other hand, I find it completely believable
because if the identity of the pipe bomber is revealed,
and there is a tie to the DNC, or there
is a tie to the FBI, or there's a tie
to I don't know, pelosianshumor or to all of them

(25:37):
or their minions, or somebody in the White House, whoever
it might be, HM, then everything about January sixth begins
to unravel. This is why they've got to continue these investigations. Now,
Kamala Harris's security team, Carlin Younger, that's the one who

(25:58):
allegedly found it while she was doing or laundry on
January sixth, just happened to find it at about fifteen
minutes before the Joint Session of Congress started. And of course,
again was that individual in the videos from January five
or did something else happen earlier in the day on
January sixth to start the first initiate the first wave
of panic, which which obviously it did, prompt the first

(26:21):
wave of evacuations of the Canon House office building, and
in so doing did that divert resources away from the
capital to keep that area intentionally unsecure.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
So the good news is that.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
The FBI under Bongino and Patel and others obviously are
have not and are not going to memory hold that issue.
But instead they're actually adding resources to it, and it
looks like manpower too, in order to to expand the
investigation and maybe get some answers pretty soon. So while

(27:06):
a lot of people express their frustration that we don't
have the Epstein files or we don't have the January
sixth files, knowing how deep the administrative state can bury stuff,
and you've got to essentially restart the investigation and overcome
all the barricades they've put up while they were in office.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Give these guys a break.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
You have to love this new and improved iHeartRadio app
that constantly crashes, forcing you to rewatch a thirty second
ad before you can get back to the stream. Oh
that that's not a bug, that's a feature.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yes, you get to see the ad four times, not
just one time.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
So I have, and I'm not anywhere near done yet,
but I've been trying to find as much information I
can about And this all started because I was in
New Mexico and they don't have a plastic bag ban,
or if they do, at least in the area where
I live, they nobody enforces it and can get a
plastic bag for anything. And I thought, how much how

(28:17):
much money is Colorado making? How much money are businesses
making off the ten cent bag fee? And then how
many people are instead choosing to use the paper bags?
Can't you use the paper bags that your king super? Yes,

(28:38):
there is that option, Yes, but you still pay ten
cents for it. Right, They still ask you how many
bags you would like to purchase? Right, and you don't
want to purchase any correct, even though you're going to
use four or five of them. You don't want to
purchase any super zero right, So I'm curious where that
ten cents goes and how many people are doing that
versus you know, bringing their own usable bags. Well, there

(29:00):
is a dearth of information. You really just cannot find
much information at all. Now I've got some, but.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
I don't have one.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
I don't have time to give you what I have
right now, plus the team complete, and I want to
see if I can't get to dig deeper. But I
ran across an interesting factoid. Those paper bags that you
might use at the grocery store, they actually create a
larger carbon footprint than the plastic bags that Colorado band.

(29:31):
So if the goal was to get rid of plastic bags,
I mean, I know because of litter and goes they're
in landfills. But they the problem with them in landfills
is they create methane, They create CO two other greenhouse
gas emissions, so they had to eliminate that. Well, guess
what the paper bags are worse. A standard grocery store

(29:51):
plastic bag has a carbon footprint of approximately zero point
zero one nine kilograms of CO two, while a paper
bag has approximately zero point one seven five kilograms of
CO two. You do the math, that means that paper

(30:12):
bags are approximately nine point two times more carbon intensing
all the way from the you know, tearing down, you know,
chopping down the trees, getting the wood pulp paper pulp,
manufacturing the bags, transporting the bags, using the bags, putting

(30:32):
the bags.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
In the in the landfill.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
I'm not going to use that paper bag more than
once as a trash filler or to pick up poop.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
And that's one of the things that I found out
in the analysis was that

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Plastic bags got reused at least one, if not two times,
and the paper bags not at all, and they're nine
point two times more carbon intensity
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