June 16, 2025 • 30 mins
On this date back in 2015, Donald Trump descended the escalator. And the Trump era began.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning from Memphis. Snesse that Noel King's movement was
real success. We still have no King and we have
a big, beautiful president Trump. Yet everyone have a great day.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You're right, you know, I hadn't thought about it in
those terms. The protests were very successful. There no Kings,
no Kings, congratulations group. So a Rod has now hijacked
the program by reminding me.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I know, he's all excited about it.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
He's finally contributed something to society worthwhile, and you know
it'll be it'll be a long time before he does
it again, So relation it all you can. He reminded
me that today is June sixteen. Okay, Well to a
twenty would he remind you? I was like, okay, what
(00:51):
about June sixteen? Well, today is the day in twenty
fifteen that Donald Trump rode the Goldenesque later to a
president to announce his candidacy for the US presidency of
Trump Tower in June sixteen, twenty fifteen. And of course
then Alexa sends me and I'll keep my finger on
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the dump button. I don't know how clean this is,
but she sends me a TikTok video of all the
Democrats that said that Neil Trump will never be president.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
There's not going to be a president Donald Trump. That's
not going to happen. Donald Trump will not be called president.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
He's not going to be president.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
He is not.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Donald Trump is not going to be president of the
United States. Take it to the bank, oh guarantee?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
All right?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Hi, you think if he becomes a president and make
it great, it's the States authority.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I think that man will be president of the United States.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Right about the times of spaceships down filled with dinosaurs
at wreck case?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
But how about that?
Speaker 6 (02:07):
And then of course there's Donald Trump. Donald Trump has
been saying that he will run for president as a Republican,
which is surprising since I just assumed he was running.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
As a joke.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Now that's also that's Seth Myers. If the White House
Correspondence dinner the year before, and that's the White House
Correspondence dinner where after Seth Myers made that comment with
Trump sitting in the audience and the camera is focused
right on Trump. He doesn't flinch, he doesn't move, but
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you know he's looking thinking I'll show you. And then
Barack Obama stands up. Barack Obama gives his speech and
says essentially the same thing.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Sometimes you puke the bear, you get eaten by the bit.
Speaker 7 (03:07):
Donald Trump just last week he confirmed the National Review
that he is again considering a run in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Do it through it, ok at through wich.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Well personally brought you a confine check now on behalf
of this country which does not want you to be president,
but which bodily wants you.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
To rub Okay, John Oliver, did you ever write him
a campaign contribution? Did you ever write that check? Are
you just a blow hard like the rest of them?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
So when you stand and deliver that State of the
Union address, in no part of your mind or brain,
can you imagine Donald Trump standing up one day and
delivering a State of the Union address?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Look, I can imagine it in a Saturday night skin.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I continue to believe mister Trump will not be president.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
She will never be president of the United States, and.
Speaker 8 (04:01):
We better be ready for the fact that he might
be leading Republican ticket next.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
I know you don't believe that, but I want to
go on.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Okay, here we are, and which Republican candidate has the
best chance of winning the general election.
Speaker 7 (04:16):
Of the declared ones?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Right now?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Donald Trump?
Speaker 6 (04:26):
And so right now, mister Trump, to answer your call
for political honesty, I just want to say, you're not
going to be president. All right, It's been fun, it's
been great.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I love you.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Come on, come on, buddy, all let's say cow poo
poo aside. There is zero chance we'll be seeing you
being sworn in on the Capitol steps with your hand
on a giant golden bible.
Speaker 8 (04:56):
I'll make a prediction though, for you. I don't really
get into predictions, but this one I'll go away and
Donald Trump will never ever be president of the United States.
That Trump should not be in this race. He's an absurdity.
He is a travesty.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Donald Trump will never be elected president of the United States.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Donald Trump is here, today, gone tomorrow, candidate for President
of the United States. Donald Trump is not going to
be president of the United States. Of a respectful of
the fact that the people have not voted, He's not
going to be president of the United States.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Let's be clear. Donald Trump will lose the election.
Speaker 8 (05:40):
He had a really good chance to be different and
really have a chance to change things.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
But he doesn't do the work. He's lazy.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Let me talk about him every day and we all
continuously bash it.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
The president don't worry about it exactly.
Speaker 7 (05:52):
And we're coming to a point where, if you're Hillary Clinton,
you're honestly probably starting to think about not just whether
you will win, but how big your win will be.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
And then you say.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
That Donald Trump has the best day in the entire world,
completely outperforms expectations, and he wins all of the toss
up states. He wins all five of those states, plus
not electoral College vote in Maine that he's after. He
wins all of the toss ups, which would be insane
because nobody wins all of the toss up states. Even
if Donald Trump did win all of the toss up states,
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he would still lose.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
You're a wake up call to the Republican Party.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Despite Boris thinking that Donald Trump can win New York
like this, the presidential race is over.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Just could I just cut through?
Speaker 5 (06:36):
I have one thing to say, one thing only, and
that is that this race is over. Tomorrow morning, the
money will dry up, the Republicans will start to hide.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Trump has no place to go.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
This race, effectively, as of tonight, is no longer a
presidential race. I'll get I mean, everything I know about
presidential politics. And I've been through five of them. I've
never seen one like. This race is over, you might
as well accept it. And the question now is how
do you minimize damage? And the only way you can
do that, it seems to me, is to try to
gravels some old conservative value things and do what Mondale
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did in eighty four, which she's trying to save a
few people down in ballot, but as far as Donald
Trump's concerned, it will never ever ever happen.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
There you have it, and here we have it now.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Really they've I think one of their mistakes was focusing
on the bomb best.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I confess that I don't like all of the bomb beast,
but I know there are a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Of people that do.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
But what I do like is that he's willing to
do it and he doesn't care. I probably admire people
the most who strongly believe what they believe. They really
don't care what you think, and they just tell you
what they think and they believe. But I think going
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back to twenty fifteen, I think we realized that voters
were focused on something else entirely. Somebody finally was saying
out loud what they believe, what they feel, what they
experienced what they were living. And of course, as I
said before the top of our break China, that was
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a great example. They're ripping us off. Well you can't.
That's not very diplomatic. You can't say that. Well, yeah
you can. And actually you see the effects of it today.
Immigration hit. His then infamous remarks about immigration set off
a political firestorm. Critics, oh my gosh, they clutched their pearls,
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but they missed the deeper point. Ordinary Americans frustrated with
rising crime, strained resources, misallocation of priorities, spending money on
the wrong things. The politic leaders who seem more sympathetic
to illegal aliens than they were to their own citizens.
It was an institutional distrust. And you think back to
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twenty fifteen, it hasn't.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Improved that much.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
But faith in the media, faith in government, the justice system,
it was collapsing. Don't get me wrong, I don't think
it's completely rebounded, but the bleeding is at least stopped
in many instances. Just go back to that first hour
when MSNBC has to admit that, yeah, we were actually
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looking for the dark side of the parade, and we
couldn't find the dark side of the parade. It actually
turned out to be pretty cool when MSNBC has to
admit that you know that you're winning. And again I
say Trump didn't win because he was polished. I think
he won because he simply was not polished. How many
times have I said to you about the politicians that
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Republican Democrat alike. They come begging you for their money
every election year. Oh, please contribute to my campaign. Let's
sing the Star spangel banner together, Let's pray together. We
love God Mother and apple Pie. Now write me a check,
hand me some cash. I'll go back to d C
because I promise I'm going to fix DC. Now DC's
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not fixed, but he's dragging them along. So that gets
to what I said just before the end of the hour.
So those were all unsayable truths. Well, what issues are
today's elites ignoring that tomorrow's political insurgent, whoever that might be,
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might ride to power. I think there's some signs there.
I really hadn't thought about this, but I think there's
some signs. And I would start with something that I've
toyed with a little bit, both in show prep and
in the business side of what we do here at iHeart,
and that's artificial intelligence. Almost all the discussion and controversy
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around artificial intelligence centers on jobs because people are fearful
of again, displacement, automation, retraining, all the stuff that we've
heard as we go through all these different periods, you know,
when we go from an agricultural economy to an industrial economy,
from an industrial economy to an information economy, and now
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we're going to an artificial intelligence economy. Because I think
it's more than just about employment. It's actually about humanity.
I think that people believe and since and I think
rightfully so that rendering a world where where not necessarily will,
but where creative thinking, creativity, even relationships. I've read stories
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about these humanoids that they're coming up with that you know,
you you don't really want to live with someone, but
you don't really want to live alone, and so you
can get a human You'll soon soon be able to
get a humanoid that will you know, be a companion,
but without all of the really kind of emotionless stuff
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that comes with it. In fact, you know, male or
female doesn't make any difference. You can have somebody that
will wash the dishes and do the laundry and do
everything else, and that you can talk to and the
AI that's in there, that somehow is in their machinery
you can carry on a conversation with. Have you ever
gone on to one of the AI apps and had
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a conversation. You had to try it sometime. It's both
fascinating and scary, really weird. So relationships and even thinking
itself could be outsourced. Well, the next political visionary won't
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just talk about saving jobs, They'll talk about saving the
soul of the human being. And then there's the epidemic
that I don't think anybody wants to discuss.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Loneliness.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
You think about and you wonder why some kids are
the way they are, isolated, over stimulated, spiritually hollow, spiritually vacuous,
just nothing there, surrounded by screens that addict us, that
demand our attention. So where does that leave society? Rising
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suicide rates, declining marriage and birth rates. We can survive
a recession, we can even survive wars, but we can't
a crisis of the soul. We can't survive a crisis
of meaning. So Trump captured the anger. The next movement
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will need to capture the despair and offer something richer
than just grievance. So you stop and think about culture.
The culture is decaying in ways that polls don't really captured.
Think about the economy and how it's rewiring our brains.
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I force myself to spend a certain amount of time reading.
And I don't mean reading my x feed or my
Facebook feed or scrolling through Instagram, although I do those things,
but reading newspapers, magazines, books.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Now a lot of those are online books.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I actually prefer hardcover, but the others I'll read online.
But have you ever found yourself doing this reading and
then your mind's wandering off or you drift off and
the next thing, you know, because I've caught myself doing.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
This sitting reading.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Let's just say the Los Angeles Times and the story
is not very well written, and I, yeah, okay, So
I read through and I get two thirds of the
way through it, and it's like, okay, I kind of
get their point. It's kind of stupid. So I skip
to the next story, and the next story is even worse.
So then I find myself going back to social media.
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I have to force myself to go back to read.
Chow prep becomes a sometimes a toil to actually get
it done because of all the distractions. Now, I'm an
adult and so I know, and I've trained myself to
stop those kinds of things. But what about kids, What
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about education? Think about I mean, kids can't focus, and
a lot of adults that I know simply can't think.
They certainly can't think critically, dopamine ad it can't sit still,
We can't read deeply, form lasting thoughts. We consume so
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much content but understand very well what does the future hold.
Trump captured that anger, and now there is to some
degree despair. I don't think it's entirely there, because we're
seeing the economy turn around, We're seeing the laws being enforced.
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We're seeing all the things that we've complained about being
at least an attempt to rectify them, which is a
thousand percent improvement over what we had before. Because before
there was no desire on the part of either Republicans
or Democrats. All Democrats wanted to do was just keep
marching down this highway to hell of Marxism. Republicans, oh,
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they gave great speeches, they talked a good game, but
they really didn't do anything. And truthfully, Trump's not perfect.
Trump has said a few things that I haven't quite
figured out quite how to interpret yet. He's talked about
maybe we should back off a little bit on the
enforcement of people who are working in you know, landscaping
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business or meat packing warehouses or why. I don't see
any reason to do that. You're on a roll, keep
moving forward. But all of those are political issues. What
about the greater issue? The larger issues? I mean, all
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of these. I'm not saying immigration, or the Iran Israeli conflict,
or the Russian Ukraine War. I'm not saying anything. Any
of those are minor. But in terms of just our culture,
I just think about how everything has, you know, all
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the modern technology has affected us.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
For example, tamer.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
And I went to see Mission Impossible, the Final Reckoning
or whatever the title of the movie is, simply because
I wanted to see it on the Imax screen. But
way too often we say, hey, you want to go
to a movie this afternoon, or do you want to
go to a movie tonight? No, let's watch something at home.
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And it's primarily because, well, you know what, we can
watch a lot of first run films, and there's really
great content on Apple TV or on Netflix or Hulu,
or any.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Of the others.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
So there's no need to pack up and get in
the car and go pay outrageous amounts for you know,
a diet colchings and popcorn or whatever. We can do
that right there at home at a much cheaper cost.
But we become more isolated, we become more introverted in
that way. I think about my habits of reading. I
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force me, I say I force myself. That's not really
the right phrase. I make certain that I take carve
out time to do deep reading because it's good for
the brain. It's good. It keeps the neurons firing, it
keeps them snapping, it makes them work, staves off dementia,
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so it's not quite as bad as it is today.
It staves it off. But think about kids. We went
to dinner Friday, Saturday night, so we're doing an early
dinner on Saturday evening, and there's a table across from us,
and there's a couple of kids and the kids are
totally I know, I've said, like you know, the old part.
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But there the kids, two kids, family of four, mom
and dad, two kids, The kids are totally isolated. Mom
and dad are having a conversation. Two kids are totally isolated.
Why they're on their phones. So I did something really
weird yesterday. I because the dogs are getting groomed today,
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the Lienburgers are getting groomed. I took the blanket this
in the back of the jeep and it was filthy.
I mean, it was just really filthy. And I started
to put it in the washing machine and Tammer was like,
I don't want that in there. I don't want that.
You know, it'd be like taking a horse blanket and
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I'm putting it in your home washing machine.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yes, So I looked up and found a laundromat. Hey, Rob,
I went to a laundromat yesterday. I found one that
was described on yelp as being not far away, just
about five miles away, maybe fifteen minute drive. And I
went in and threw the blanket in and you know,
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put swipe my credit card, blah blah blah. I hadn't
been a laundermat in decades. But again, I noticed that
what are the kids doing in the laundromat.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
They're on their.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Screens, They're they're not reading books, they're not even reading magazines.
And they're not even reading magazines or books on their phones.
They're either playing games or they're watching videos. The kids,
all the kids that I noticed because I walked around
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because I'm nosy, I'm kind of like I wanted to.
I wanted to check out the demographics of this laundromat,
which I found fascinating. And I made a point of
just kind of nosing, like they, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Am I doing here? Looking around?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And every kid that was on the phone was playing
a game or watching a video, And I thought, why
not get them to watch? Why not get them read
a book? Why not get them to try to read something?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
And all?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
But you know, I'd say about fifty to fifty of them,
fifty of them were of age where they could be reading.
The others were not old enough to be reading. But
that's become the new babysitter. So there we're rewiring, rewiring
those kids' brains. And my guess is they won't be
able to focus. As I said, most adults can't think.
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They certainly can't critically think. And we had become dopamine addicts.
Can't sit still, we can't read deeply, we can't form
those lasting thoughts. We consume so much content, but we
understand very little bit what we consume. And that gets
back to education. The same thing happens in the classroom.
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We're losing our intellectual cravings, the thirst for knowledge. It's
being replaced by this algorithm fed outrage and performative guidance.
Schools aren't just underperforming, they're actually uninterested in producing curious citizens.
In fact, I would go a step further and say
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that public education, which is government education. Let's be honest,
public education are government run schools. And these government run
schools are not producing active citizens who who understand the
framework that creates the social compact under which we live.
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So we're raising a generation that may never read a
book without blinking, that may never understand the Declaration of
Independence or the Constitution, or exactly why or how our
government works the way that it does. None of that's
covered on cable news. You only find that when you read,
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and none of those issues fit into any sort of partisanarraty.
They don't even fit into a partisan divide. And I
think that's what makes it so potent and so dangerous
at the same time. So the next political insurgent that
comes along again, going back to the fact that today
is June sixteenth, the day that Donald Trump came down
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the escalator in twenty fifteen. I don't think the next
political insurgent will necessarily be the loudest, and I don't
know what will happened worldwide. So many things can happen worldwide,
so much realignment could occur that who knows is the
one world government inevitable. I don't think that it is.
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But the next political insurgent will be the one that
speaks to these kind of amorphous, difficult to describe societal problems.
It won't be what's happening in Washington, although that will
still be important, but it will be about what's happening
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in the family, in the home, in our brains, in
our minds. And that's probably the lesson of Trump coming
down the escalator twenty fifteen, because then, just as now,
the issues that matter most are rarely the ones that
the elites are talking about. And that's what was so
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unique about Trump. Trump saw what others couldn't because he
wasn't looking at the donor class, he wasn't listening to
the editorial boards, he wasn't surrounded by the consultants. He
knew what he wanted to do, and he outlined his
own map about how to go about doing it now.
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I think the first time he surrounded himself with a
few people to carry out that plan that he had
in his head that didn't necessarily share that vision. I
think that completely changed after he lost in twenty twenty.
Trump saw what others couldn't because he wasn't looking at
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what the elites look at, you know, today's media. I
think they still think they're in on the joke. No,
I don't think the Americans are laughing. I think Americans
are tired, they're disoriented, They're searching for meaning. They see
Trump giving them some of that, but Trump's not giving them.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
All of that.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
So whoever figures that out and speaks to it with
courage and conviction might just spark the next escalator moment,
the next person that comes down and recognizes that there
are a lot of other larger problems. Trump's fantastic at
dealing with these political issues, but there are now a
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lot of larger issues that we need to deal with,
and it won't necessarily be at the federal level, because
in terms of what government schools are failing to do,
we need to deal with that at this level, and
we're simply not doing it. Bobby Kennedy Jr. Has, according
to the Associated Press, reportedly handed over personal information of
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Medicaid enrollees who are foreigners, who are illegal aliens h.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Now.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
The data transfer reportedly includes their names, addresses, including social
Security numbers, which it may or may not be legitimate,
of individuals enrolled in medicaid programs, particularly those in sanctuary
states such as California, Illinois, Washington State.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
DC, and I would hope Colorado.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
So the Associated Press somehow got an internal memo that
says that the Centers for Medicaid Medicaid Services tried to
block the transfer, citing legal and ethical objections, but advisors
to the Secretary overruled those concerns and order that the
data be sent to DHS Newsome of Courses, complaining, oh
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my gosh, this is extremely concerning and if true, potentially unlawful.
I'm sure he's going to go to court and suit
and try to block the transfer. And all the lefties
are all concerned that it could be used to do
precisely what I think they're using it for. And that
is a two prong reason. One is to stop the
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abuse of Medicaid coverage from being extended to illegals unlawfully,
and to identify those who are indeed using it unlawfully
and put them up higher on the list of priorities
of people that need to be deported. We have somehow
got to stop this insanity of you come to this
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country and we just give you everything that taxpayers are
trying to cover, but which we can't cover with our
tax dollars. So we're borrowing against our future generations to
cover these stupid entitlements. So if we can't even afford
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the entitlements for American citizens, why indeed are we paying
illegal aliens to receive those very sane benefits.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I'm not well.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I don't care if you think I'm cold hearted. I
think if you come here illegally and you're not able
to support you yourself, well then it sucks to be you.
You shouldn't have come here. And for sanctuary cities and
states who are paying for all of this, stop it.
We simply can't afford it, and I frankly, I don't
think either legally or morally, should we be doing that.
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We're feeding the straight cat. Stop feeding the straight cat.
Good morning from Memphis. Snesse that Noel King's movement was
real success. We still have no King and we have
a big, beautiful president Trump. Yet everyone have a great day.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You're right, you know, I hadn't thought about it in
those terms. The protests were very successful. There no Kings,
no Kings, congratulations group. So a Rod has now hijacked
the program by reminding me.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I know, he's all excited about it.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
He's finally contributed something to society worthwhile, and you know
it'll be it'll be a long time before he does
it again, So relation it all you can. He reminded
me that today is June sixteen. Okay, Well to a
twenty would he remind you? I was like, okay, what
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about June sixteen? Well, today is the day in twenty
fifteen that Donald Trump rode the Goldenesque later to a
president to announce his candidacy for the US presidency of
Trump Tower in June sixteen, twenty fifteen. And of course
then Alexa sends me and I'll keep my finger on
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the dump button. I don't know how clean this is,
but she sends me a TikTok video of all the
Democrats that said that Neil Trump will never be president.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
There's not going to be a president Donald Trump. That's
not going to happen. Donald Trump will not be called president.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
He's not going to be president.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
He is not.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Donald Trump is not going to be president of the
United States. Take it to the bank, oh guarantee?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
All right?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Hi, you think if he becomes a president and make
it great, it's the States authority.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I think that man will be president of the United States.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Right about the times of spaceships down filled with dinosaurs
at wreck case?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
But how about that?
Speaker 6 (02:07):
And then of course there's Donald Trump. Donald Trump has
been saying that he will run for president as a Republican,
which is surprising since I just assumed he was running.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
As a joke.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Now that's also that's Seth Myers. If the White House
Correspondence dinner the year before, and that's the White House
Correspondence dinner where after Seth Myers made that comment with
Trump sitting in the audience and the camera is focused
right on Trump. He doesn't flinch, he doesn't move, but
(02:44):
you know he's looking thinking I'll show you. And then
Barack Obama stands up. Barack Obama gives his speech and
says essentially the same thing.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Sometimes you puke the bear, you get eaten by the bit.
Speaker 7 (03:07):
Donald Trump just last week he confirmed the National Review
that he is again considering a run in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Do it through it, ok at through wich.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Well personally brought you a confine check now on behalf
of this country which does not want you to be president,
but which bodily wants you.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
To rub Okay, John Oliver, did you ever write him
a campaign contribution? Did you ever write that check? Are
you just a blow hard like the rest of them?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
So when you stand and deliver that State of the
Union address, in no part of your mind or brain,
can you imagine Donald Trump standing up one day and
delivering a State of the Union address?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Look, I can imagine it in a Saturday night skin.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I continue to believe mister Trump will not be president.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
She will never be president of the United States, and.
Speaker 8 (04:01):
We better be ready for the fact that he might
be leading Republican ticket next.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
I know you don't believe that, but I want to
go on.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Okay, here we are, and which Republican candidate has the
best chance of winning the general election.
Speaker 7 (04:16):
Of the declared ones?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Right now?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Donald Trump?
Speaker 6 (04:26):
And so right now, mister Trump, to answer your call
for political honesty, I just want to say, you're not
going to be president. All right, It's been fun, it's
been great.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I love you.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Come on, come on, buddy, all let's say cow poo
poo aside. There is zero chance we'll be seeing you
being sworn in on the Capitol steps with your hand
on a giant golden bible.
Speaker 8 (04:56):
I'll make a prediction though, for you. I don't really
get into predictions, but this one I'll go away and
Donald Trump will never ever be president of the United States.
That Trump should not be in this race. He's an absurdity.
He is a travesty.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Donald Trump will never be elected president of the United States.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Donald Trump is here, today, gone tomorrow, candidate for President
of the United States. Donald Trump is not going to
be president of the United States. Of a respectful of
the fact that the people have not voted, He's not
going to be president of the United States.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Let's be clear. Donald Trump will lose the election.
Speaker 8 (05:40):
He had a really good chance to be different and
really have a chance to change things.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
But he doesn't do the work. He's lazy.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Let me talk about him every day and we all
continuously bash it.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
The president don't worry about it exactly.
Speaker 7 (05:52):
And we're coming to a point where, if you're Hillary Clinton,
you're honestly probably starting to think about not just whether
you will win, but how big your win will be.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
And then you say.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
That Donald Trump has the best day in the entire world,
completely outperforms expectations, and he wins all of the toss
up states. He wins all five of those states, plus
not electoral College vote in Maine that he's after. He
wins all of the toss ups, which would be insane
because nobody wins all of the toss up states. Even
if Donald Trump did win all of the toss up states,
(06:25):
he would still lose.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
You're a wake up call to the Republican Party.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Despite Boris thinking that Donald Trump can win New York
like this, the presidential race is over.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Just could I just cut through?
Speaker 5 (06:36):
I have one thing to say, one thing only, and
that is that this race is over. Tomorrow morning, the
money will dry up, the Republicans will start to hide.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Trump has no place to go.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
This race, effectively, as of tonight, is no longer a
presidential race. I'll get I mean, everything I know about
presidential politics. And I've been through five of them. I've
never seen one like. This race is over, you might
as well accept it. And the question now is how
do you minimize damage? And the only way you can
do that, it seems to me, is to try to
gravels some old conservative value things and do what Mondale
(07:12):
did in eighty four, which she's trying to save a
few people down in ballot, but as far as Donald
Trump's concerned, it will never ever ever happen.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
There you have it, and here we have it now.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Really they've I think one of their mistakes was focusing
on the bomb best.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I confess that I don't like all of the bomb beast,
but I know there are a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Of people that do.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
But what I do like is that he's willing to
do it and he doesn't care. I probably admire people
the most who strongly believe what they believe. They really
don't care what you think, and they just tell you
what they think and they believe. But I think going
(08:04):
back to twenty fifteen, I think we realized that voters
were focused on something else entirely. Somebody finally was saying
out loud what they believe, what they feel, what they
experienced what they were living. And of course, as I
said before the top of our break China, that was
(08:26):
a great example. They're ripping us off. Well you can't.
That's not very diplomatic. You can't say that. Well, yeah
you can. And actually you see the effects of it today.
Immigration hit. His then infamous remarks about immigration set off
a political firestorm. Critics, oh my gosh, they clutched their pearls,
(08:52):
but they missed the deeper point. Ordinary Americans frustrated with
rising crime, strained resources, misallocation of priorities, spending money on
the wrong things. The politic leaders who seem more sympathetic
to illegal aliens than they were to their own citizens.
It was an institutional distrust. And you think back to
(09:17):
twenty fifteen, it hasn't.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Improved that much.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
But faith in the media, faith in government, the justice system,
it was collapsing. Don't get me wrong, I don't think
it's completely rebounded, but the bleeding is at least stopped
in many instances. Just go back to that first hour
when MSNBC has to admit that, yeah, we were actually
(09:43):
looking for the dark side of the parade, and we
couldn't find the dark side of the parade. It actually
turned out to be pretty cool when MSNBC has to
admit that you know that you're winning. And again I
say Trump didn't win because he was polished. I think
he won because he simply was not polished. How many
times have I said to you about the politicians that
(10:05):
Republican Democrat alike. They come begging you for their money
every election year. Oh, please contribute to my campaign. Let's
sing the Star spangel banner together, Let's pray together. We
love God Mother and apple Pie. Now write me a check,
hand me some cash. I'll go back to d C
because I promise I'm going to fix DC. Now DC's
(10:27):
not fixed, but he's dragging them along. So that gets
to what I said just before the end of the hour.
So those were all unsayable truths. Well, what issues are
today's elites ignoring that tomorrow's political insurgent, whoever that might be,
(10:53):
might ride to power. I think there's some signs there.
I really hadn't thought about this, but I think there's
some signs. And I would start with something that I've
toyed with a little bit, both in show prep and
in the business side of what we do here at iHeart,
and that's artificial intelligence. Almost all the discussion and controversy
(11:18):
around artificial intelligence centers on jobs because people are fearful
of again, displacement, automation, retraining, all the stuff that we've
heard as we go through all these different periods, you know,
when we go from an agricultural economy to an industrial economy,
from an industrial economy to an information economy, and now
(11:39):
we're going to an artificial intelligence economy. Because I think
it's more than just about employment. It's actually about humanity.
I think that people believe and since and I think
rightfully so that rendering a world where where not necessarily will,
but where creative thinking, creativity, even relationships. I've read stories
(12:05):
about these humanoids that they're coming up with that you know,
you you don't really want to live with someone, but
you don't really want to live alone, and so you
can get a human You'll soon soon be able to
get a humanoid that will you know, be a companion,
but without all of the really kind of emotionless stuff
(12:29):
that comes with it. In fact, you know, male or
female doesn't make any difference. You can have somebody that
will wash the dishes and do the laundry and do
everything else, and that you can talk to and the
AI that's in there, that somehow is in their machinery
you can carry on a conversation with. Have you ever
gone on to one of the AI apps and had
(12:50):
a conversation. You had to try it sometime. It's both
fascinating and scary, really weird. So relationships and even thinking
itself could be outsourced. Well, the next political visionary won't
(13:11):
just talk about saving jobs, They'll talk about saving the
soul of the human being. And then there's the epidemic
that I don't think anybody wants to discuss.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Loneliness.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
You think about and you wonder why some kids are
the way they are, isolated, over stimulated, spiritually hollow, spiritually vacuous,
just nothing there, surrounded by screens that addict us, that
demand our attention. So where does that leave society? Rising
(13:49):
suicide rates, declining marriage and birth rates. We can survive
a recession, we can even survive wars, but we can't
a crisis of the soul. We can't survive a crisis
of meaning. So Trump captured the anger. The next movement
(14:11):
will need to capture the despair and offer something richer
than just grievance. So you stop and think about culture.
The culture is decaying in ways that polls don't really captured.
Think about the economy and how it's rewiring our brains.
(14:38):
I force myself to spend a certain amount of time reading.
And I don't mean reading my x feed or my
Facebook feed or scrolling through Instagram, although I do those things,
but reading newspapers, magazines, books.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Now a lot of those are online books.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I actually prefer hardcover, but the others I'll read online.
But have you ever found yourself doing this reading and
then your mind's wandering off or you drift off and
the next thing, you know, because I've caught myself doing.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
This sitting reading.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Let's just say the Los Angeles Times and the story
is not very well written, and I, yeah, okay, So
I read through and I get two thirds of the
way through it, and it's like, okay, I kind of
get their point. It's kind of stupid. So I skip
to the next story, and the next story is even worse.
So then I find myself going back to social media.
(15:49):
I have to force myself to go back to read.
Chow prep becomes a sometimes a toil to actually get
it done because of all the distractions. Now, I'm an
adult and so I know, and I've trained myself to
stop those kinds of things. But what about kids, What
(16:10):
about education? Think about I mean, kids can't focus, and
a lot of adults that I know simply can't think.
They certainly can't think critically, dopamine ad it can't sit still,
We can't read deeply, form lasting thoughts. We consume so
(16:33):
much content but understand very well what does the future hold.
Trump captured that anger, and now there is to some
degree despair. I don't think it's entirely there, because we're
seeing the economy turn around, We're seeing the laws being enforced.
(16:55):
We're seeing all the things that we've complained about being
at least an attempt to rectify them, which is a
thousand percent improvement over what we had before. Because before
there was no desire on the part of either Republicans
or Democrats. All Democrats wanted to do was just keep
marching down this highway to hell of Marxism. Republicans, oh,
(17:19):
they gave great speeches, they talked a good game, but
they really didn't do anything. And truthfully, Trump's not perfect.
Trump has said a few things that I haven't quite
figured out quite how to interpret yet. He's talked about
maybe we should back off a little bit on the
enforcement of people who are working in you know, landscaping
(17:41):
business or meat packing warehouses or why. I don't see
any reason to do that. You're on a roll, keep
moving forward. But all of those are political issues. What
about the greater issue? The larger issues? I mean, all
(18:02):
of these. I'm not saying immigration, or the Iran Israeli conflict,
or the Russian Ukraine War. I'm not saying anything. Any
of those are minor. But in terms of just our culture,
I just think about how everything has, you know, all
(18:23):
the modern technology has affected us.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
For example, tamer.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
And I went to see Mission Impossible, the Final Reckoning
or whatever the title of the movie is, simply because
I wanted to see it on the Imax screen. But
way too often we say, hey, you want to go
to a movie this afternoon, or do you want to
go to a movie tonight? No, let's watch something at home.
(18:50):
And it's primarily because, well, you know what, we can
watch a lot of first run films, and there's really
great content on Apple TV or on Netflix or Hulu,
or any.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Of the others.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
So there's no need to pack up and get in
the car and go pay outrageous amounts for you know,
a diet colchings and popcorn or whatever. We can do
that right there at home at a much cheaper cost.
But we become more isolated, we become more introverted in
that way. I think about my habits of reading. I
(19:31):
force me, I say I force myself. That's not really
the right phrase. I make certain that I take carve
out time to do deep reading because it's good for
the brain. It's good. It keeps the neurons firing, it
keeps them snapping, it makes them work, staves off dementia,
(19:54):
so it's not quite as bad as it is today.
It staves it off. But think about kids. We went
to dinner Friday, Saturday night, so we're doing an early
dinner on Saturday evening, and there's a table across from us,
and there's a couple of kids and the kids are
totally I know, I've said, like you know, the old part.
(20:16):
But there the kids, two kids, family of four, mom
and dad, two kids, The kids are totally isolated. Mom
and dad are having a conversation. Two kids are totally isolated.
Why they're on their phones. So I did something really
weird yesterday. I because the dogs are getting groomed today,
(20:39):
the Lienburgers are getting groomed. I took the blanket this
in the back of the jeep and it was filthy.
I mean, it was just really filthy. And I started
to put it in the washing machine and Tammer was like,
I don't want that in there. I don't want that.
You know, it'd be like taking a horse blanket and
(21:00):
I'm putting it in your home washing machine.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yes, So I looked up and found a laundromat. Hey, Rob,
I went to a laundromat yesterday. I found one that
was described on yelp as being not far away, just
about five miles away, maybe fifteen minute drive. And I
went in and threw the blanket in and you know,
(21:24):
put swipe my credit card, blah blah blah. I hadn't
been a laundermat in decades. But again, I noticed that
what are the kids doing in the laundromat.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
They're on their.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Screens, They're they're not reading books, they're not even reading magazines.
And they're not even reading magazines or books on their phones.
They're either playing games or they're watching videos. The kids,
all the kids that I noticed because I walked around
(21:57):
because I'm nosy, I'm kind of like I wanted to.
I wanted to check out the demographics of this laundromat,
which I found fascinating. And I made a point of
just kind of nosing, like they, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Am I doing here? Looking around?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And every kid that was on the phone was playing
a game or watching a video, And I thought, why
not get them to watch? Why not get them read
a book? Why not get them to try to read something?
Speaker 1 (22:31):
And all?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
But you know, I'd say about fifty to fifty of them,
fifty of them were of age where they could be reading.
The others were not old enough to be reading. But
that's become the new babysitter. So there we're rewiring, rewiring
those kids' brains. And my guess is they won't be
able to focus. As I said, most adults can't think.
(22:54):
They certainly can't critically think. And we had become dopamine addicts.
Can't sit still, we can't read deeply, we can't form
those lasting thoughts. We consume so much content, but we
understand very little bit what we consume. And that gets
back to education. The same thing happens in the classroom.
(23:17):
We're losing our intellectual cravings, the thirst for knowledge. It's
being replaced by this algorithm fed outrage and performative guidance.
Schools aren't just underperforming, they're actually uninterested in producing curious citizens.
In fact, I would go a step further and say
(23:37):
that public education, which is government education. Let's be honest,
public education are government run schools. And these government run
schools are not producing active citizens who who understand the
framework that creates the social compact under which we live.
(24:02):
So we're raising a generation that may never read a
book without blinking, that may never understand the Declaration of
Independence or the Constitution, or exactly why or how our
government works the way that it does. None of that's
covered on cable news. You only find that when you read,
(24:24):
and none of those issues fit into any sort of partisanarraty.
They don't even fit into a partisan divide. And I
think that's what makes it so potent and so dangerous
at the same time. So the next political insurgent that
comes along again, going back to the fact that today
is June sixteenth, the day that Donald Trump came down
(24:47):
the escalator in twenty fifteen. I don't think the next
political insurgent will necessarily be the loudest, and I don't
know what will happened worldwide. So many things can happen worldwide,
so much realignment could occur that who knows is the
one world government inevitable. I don't think that it is.
(25:09):
But the next political insurgent will be the one that
speaks to these kind of amorphous, difficult to describe societal problems.
It won't be what's happening in Washington, although that will
still be important, but it will be about what's happening
(25:31):
in the family, in the home, in our brains, in
our minds. And that's probably the lesson of Trump coming
down the escalator twenty fifteen, because then, just as now,
the issues that matter most are rarely the ones that
the elites are talking about. And that's what was so
(25:54):
unique about Trump. Trump saw what others couldn't because he
wasn't looking at the donor class, he wasn't listening to
the editorial boards, he wasn't surrounded by the consultants. He
knew what he wanted to do, and he outlined his
own map about how to go about doing it now.
(26:16):
I think the first time he surrounded himself with a
few people to carry out that plan that he had
in his head that didn't necessarily share that vision. I
think that completely changed after he lost in twenty twenty.
Trump saw what others couldn't because he wasn't looking at
(26:36):
what the elites look at, you know, today's media. I
think they still think they're in on the joke. No,
I don't think the Americans are laughing. I think Americans
are tired, they're disoriented, They're searching for meaning. They see
Trump giving them some of that, but Trump's not giving them.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
All of that.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
So whoever figures that out and speaks to it with
courage and conviction might just spark the next escalator moment,
the next person that comes down and recognizes that there
are a lot of other larger problems. Trump's fantastic at
dealing with these political issues, but there are now a
(27:19):
lot of larger issues that we need to deal with,
and it won't necessarily be at the federal level, because
in terms of what government schools are failing to do,
we need to deal with that at this level, and
we're simply not doing it. Bobby Kennedy Jr. Has, according
to the Associated Press, reportedly handed over personal information of
(27:44):
Medicaid enrollees who are foreigners, who are illegal aliens h.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Now.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
The data transfer reportedly includes their names, addresses, including social
Security numbers, which it may or may not be legitimate,
of individuals enrolled in medicaid programs, particularly those in sanctuary
states such as California, Illinois, Washington State.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
DC, and I would hope Colorado.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
So the Associated Press somehow got an internal memo that
says that the Centers for Medicaid Medicaid Services tried to
block the transfer, citing legal and ethical objections, but advisors
to the Secretary overruled those concerns and order that the
data be sent to DHS Newsome of Courses, complaining, oh
(28:36):
my gosh, this is extremely concerning and if true, potentially unlawful.
I'm sure he's going to go to court and suit
and try to block the transfer. And all the lefties
are all concerned that it could be used to do
precisely what I think they're using it for. And that
is a two prong reason. One is to stop the
(28:58):
abuse of Medicaid coverage from being extended to illegals unlawfully,
and to identify those who are indeed using it unlawfully
and put them up higher on the list of priorities
of people that need to be deported. We have somehow
got to stop this insanity of you come to this
(29:21):
country and we just give you everything that taxpayers are
trying to cover, but which we can't cover with our
tax dollars. So we're borrowing against our future generations to
cover these stupid entitlements. So if we can't even afford
(29:42):
the entitlements for American citizens, why indeed are we paying
illegal aliens to receive those very sane benefits.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I'm not well.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I don't care if you think I'm cold hearted. I
think if you come here illegally and you're not able
to support you yourself, well then it sucks to be you.
You shouldn't have come here. And for sanctuary cities and
states who are paying for all of this, stop it.
We simply can't afford it, and I frankly, I don't
think either legally or morally, should we be doing that.
(30:18):
We're feeding the straight cat. Stop feeding the straight cat.
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