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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Michael and Dragon. What horrors are in store
for us today?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Well, Dragon, I are laughing during the break about our
two bugaboos. The last bugaboo has to do with the
sound bite we had to talk back at the beginning
of the program about Michelle Obama has a podcast. Well,
in my clipping in my clips folder this morning is
(00:32):
a short forty four second clip. I'll just play the
first half of it. Michelle Obama talking to Elaine what's
your name? Julia Lewis Dreyfus, Elaine from Seinfeld and some
guy who's got a podcast, and they're talking about women
and women.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
We have so many landmines and barriers and dumps and limitations.
It's you know, I mean, Craig, you're the guy at
the table, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So Dragon's got a bugaboo about that.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I'm the son of a very strong, independent woman who
has been a business owner almost her entire life. She
started the subway franchise, one of the first ones in
Colorado in the eighties as a woman. So don't tell
me something almost forty years ago that a woman can do. No,
it's so hard being a woman. And I can go
(01:26):
back even further. The foods that built America or whatever
post the post serial corporation. Yeah, not founder was a woman,
but the second CEO a woman. Nineteen fourteen. Shut the
hell up about being a woman. Yeah, I know, I'm
not a woman. I don't live in your shoes or
your high heels or whatever you happen to wear. But no,
(01:48):
it's hard being a person.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Shut up.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But don't you find it fascinating that she is the
first Obama is she's called the first live, she's first leg,
but she's she's the first truly black first lady.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Obama was half black, half white, so they got that.
She was raised in a nuclear family, a mother and
a father, siblings, had had a very good, probably upper
middle class upbringing, and she had it hard.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
It's so hard. It's just so it's hard, just being
a person. Shut up about being a man or a
woman or whatever. It's just hard living out there right now.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Any and then, my bugaboo is and I love the
woman that does our traffic report. I love her to death.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
She make our asses. Huh, she can kick our she.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Can literally kick our asses, because yes, she literally can,
because she's that good at that. And she's also a
fantastic musician. She's got a wonderful band. But this is
not her fault. She's just the messenger. They'll be heard
in the six o'clock news that there was a ground
stop at Denver International Airport for those of you that
(03:06):
are going to get Denver International Airport now. I just
did a quick search and I went to the Flydenver
dot com. The ground stop was lifted quite a while ago,
but it gets repeated again this hour. And that kind
of stuff is a bugaboo to me because it's just
(03:26):
it shows just this and again not on Susan's part
at all, but just shows a sloppiness of because everybody
in in my heart's got five thousand different jobs to do,
and so they you know, and the sources that they
get stuff from. For example, yesterday I got an email
(03:47):
from somebody that said there is a potential sponsor blah
blah blah blah blah and whatever. The I'm not going
to say what the product or service was, but I thought, oh, wow,
that would be I would love to have that one.
And so I didn't know, like, and there's no way
for me to ascertain is that somebody new here? So
(04:07):
I wrote this person back and said, I'm sorry, but
you know, nice to meet you. I would be particularly
interested in that sponsor because of my former position of
being the under secretary of One Man Security. The guy's
not from here. The guy is from I've spoken or
I don't know, Fort Lauderdale somewhere, and he's filling in
(04:30):
for Edie, who does the national stuffy And so he
was like, oh, holy crap. No, I wasn't aware of that.
I'm just filling in for Edie. I had no idea
who any of you are. But yeah, that would be
a perfect match. Let me get to work on that. Now.
Have I not responded? Now, it's not there's no guarantee
(04:53):
I would get that sponsor. But had I not responded,
I think it was just a blast email to just okay,
looking for the Denver market. All just send it every
on air person in the Denver market without considering that, oh,
there might be somebody unique that might be a really
good fit for that. Oh tries me nuts, and then
what are we supposed to do?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
The email that Yeah, I don't know if you want
to be careful, but.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I know I'm not as as far as I'm going.
You know what, I'm talking about it really business me.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Off for uh uh, let's go to Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
This has bothered me now for well for several months.
Remember when Biden promised, uh, promise to Ukraine and Zelensky
whatever it takes in American support and whatever it takes
for as long as it takes. And remember my my
(05:55):
bugaboo about that I got. I got a lot of
bugaboos this morning. I need to get inoculated. I need it,
you know, I need a like I need Pfizer to
come up with a bugaboo vaccine that would be as
effective as their COVID to take care of my bugaboos.
(06:16):
So Biden was always out there talking about We'll give
you whatever it takes, as long as it takes, which
is just a totally open ended like here, here's the
credit card. There's no limit on the credit card, just
to do huh check blank check, just whatever you need
and when you you know, if you run out of checks,
we'll send you a new box of checks. Just keep
writing checks, and no strategy whatsoever of how to win,
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just whatever it takes. Now, I'm certain in Biden's mind
that was meant to be inspiring. You know, we're going
to be here for as long as it takes, whatever
it takes. Blah blah, blah blah blah. No, it was
not inspiring, it was flippant, and it was an unrealistic
(07:02):
promise from the outset. And now I'm afraid for not
just Ukraine, but for a whole host of reasons that
that promise rings hollow. Now Trump has promised to send
more weapons to Ukraine, and the administration is reportedly scrambling
to source the desired Patriot missile platform and the highly
(07:26):
in demand interceptors from our allies. Not from our stockpiles,
but from our allies. Trump's initial instinct to husband resources
was very sound. The President is now increasingly forced to
(07:49):
choose between Ukraine's present and increasing needs and our country's
own present readiness. The fact is this is just factually true.
Our foreign policy doesn't add up. The commitments made by
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previous administrations exceed our ability to meet them. Our promises
have been outrunning our supply lines, and worst policy makers
have been trying for decades now, yet literally decades, Because
this was an issue when I was in the belly
(08:32):
of the beast, to try to come up with a
model for achieving foreign policy aims extra democratically. What I
mean by that, well, the use of air power, covert operations,
drone warfare, promiscuous outsourcing to local proxies. That really becomes
(08:53):
an emission that we cannot be brought to support these
foreign policy goals because Americans are now risk averse. We
don't like the costs of these things. And I'm trying
to be as neutral as I can be here. Whether
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you think any particular conflict, any particular form policy is
the right one or the wrong one, does not make
any difference in terms of what I'm talking about. The
fact is Americans don't want to take on risks, even
if those are very real, legitimate risks. And we're concerned about,
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rightfully so, the costs of everything that's gone on before,
and we really ought to be concerned about the cost
of anything that may be coming down the pike, that's
around the corner that we haven't looked at yet. When
you add all that together, it is a recipe for
absolutely launching idealistic policy and then just leaving it as
(10:02):
an orphan over here because you have no mechanism by
which to support that policy. I'll give you an example.
Do you remember when Pete Hegsath, the Secretary of Defense,
promised what he called an unrelenting campaign against the Hoothies
because the Houthis were harassing global shipping from Yemen. They
(10:28):
were harassing from Yemen, the global shipping in the Gulf
of Arabia and the Red Sea and the entire region.
He said, and I quote, the minute the Houthies say
we'll stop shooting at your ships, will stop shooting at
your drones, this campaign will then end. That was his promise. Well,
(10:53):
so what did we do. We spent hundreds of millions
of dollars in munitions, dropping hundreds of two thousand pounds bond.
We used up seventy five Tomahawk missiles. We used probably
the best I can guess, best I can ascertain, more
than twenty eight GM cruise missiles. Well, the hoo Thies
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have not relented. They're using their cheap weapons that they
have on hand. Well, the mounting costs led to the
United States then working out an agreement with the Uranian
backed group. Hey, let's okay, let's cut a deal. Why
would we cut a deal because we looked we went
to the grocery store, and we went to the aisle
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that said two thousand pound bombs, and the shelves were
getting pretty low. We went to the Tomahawk section of
the grocery store. Uh oh, we're out. And in so
far as the cruise missiles, best section has been roped
off until we you know, get until the wholesaler, until
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the delivery truck shows up. Now, far from being some
sort of novelty imposed by the Trump administration, this country
has been triaging its resources among existing conflicts for years now.
In late twenty twenty three, we redirected tens of thousands
(12:21):
of one five to five millimeters artillery shells allocated for Ukraine.
We sent those to Israel. In early June, twenty thousand
anti dron missiles apkws's were diverted to the Middle East
to protect US troops from potential Iranian retaliation. And well,
speaking of Iran, we used a significant portion of the
(12:46):
so called bunker busters, the GBU fifty seven A and B,
the mops bombs. We used this significant portion of those
on Iran's nuclear facilities. Sean Parnell used to have a podcast.
He's now the chief Pentagon spokesman, said the bombing raids
(13:06):
had set back Around's nuke program by one or two years.
Trump says it obliterated it. Whether it obliterated it or
it set it back by one or two years, both
of those things can be true. We could have obliterated it,
and by obliterating it, they have the mechanism by which
started up again in two or three years. But regardless
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of don't get hung up on the semantics. But if
the estimate is true that we set it back by
two or three years, it means that the Uranians might
have its nuclear program back to where it was before
we have replenshed the bombs used to set them back
in the first place. For example, we have a next
generation penetrator. This is the next generation of the MOPS
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bombs of the bunker busters. Well, that successor to the
MOP is due for initial prototypes, not for another eighteen
to twenty four months, So we'll get a prototype sometime
in the next year and a half two years. My
guess is will be longer than two years, because nothing's
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ever delivered on time by the government and by defense contractors.
It'll be over budget, it'll be behind schedule, and it'll
be a prototype and we'll take it out to Area
fifty one or some other bombing range, and we'll test
it and hope to God that it works. It may
or may not, and if it doesn't, we're still behind
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in terms of inventory on the GBU fifty seven am bs.
The hard truth is the American military industrial complex, the
base we're just simply not producing fast enough, and those
are and that reaps consequences for American foreign policy and
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our allies, and those are serious consequences. So after eighty Ukraine,
it's going to take us years to replenish our own
supply of stingers. Guess who else wants our stingers? Taiwan.
The Aucus Naval Agreement where the United Kingdom and Americans
(15:15):
step in front of France to provide Australia with naval
ships because of everything that the Chinese Communist Party is
doing in the South China Sea. Will guess what that's
under review. The deal was already expected to delay the
first ships from reaching Australia from the early twenty thirties
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to the early twenty forties, but even beyond that, we're
already experiencing multi year delays and massive cost overruns in
the production of the Virginia class submarines. Which are essential
for the first phase of the Aucus agreement. Now, the
the defense hawks in both parties, Democrats and Republicans. They're
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arguing that the only way to prevent China from making
an attempt at Taiwan and from breaking our supremacy in
the Pacific is to back Ukraine in Israel to the hilt,
because their theory is that we can deter Eugene Pin
by demonstrating our sheer will, our sheer willingness to defend
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our allies. Well that theory, and it is a theory
of de terms that obviously appeals to a bunch of
columnists and pundits whose stances risk them nothing. But what
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do you think Eugene Ping is doing right now?
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Another good example of a woman is that I think
they're called the Alvlorado family. They started the taco bells
in Colorado and they own oh man, they think they
owned like three hundred taco bells. And it was a
lady that started that. She had a construction company. Her
husband did help out, but she was the main person
on it.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Goodbar, I have on my desk from my illustrious producer
ten least healthy fast food chains revealed. Here's where your
guilty pleasure fails. Number one, Wendy's, number two, Sawny, and
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coming in at number three, the ladies are trying to
kill us, Taco Bell, worth It and Dairy Queen, KFC, Quizno's,
MacDonald Smash Burger, Little Caesars, and Chick fil.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
A, But an ice cream place comes fourth on the list,
after burgers, Tacos, and what.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Are the other The other one was Taco Bell, Dairy Queen, KFC,
quiz Nos, Mac d S, Smash Burger, Little Caesar's, Chick
fil A.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
The Wendy's is worse than ice cream.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Well, you can get burgers and fries and stuff at
Dairy Queen too.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah, I suppose so.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
But whoever has give me a talkback or a text
message if you have eaten real food quote unquote real food,
not not ice cream food at a dairy Queen.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I don't think I've ever had anything except vanilla cone dipped.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
In chocolate cookyo blizzard. Oh really yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Maybe an ice cream cake or two for the kids
birthday party.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I don't think we've ever done that. But a.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Hot dog or a burger, chicken wings or whatever they
happen to have.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I seriously want to know, semi a talk pack or
semi at text messages, you have gotten non ice cream
food at a dairy queen.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
All right, So back to Ukraine in this and my
concern about the military industrial complex, and everybody likes to
bitch about the military industrial complex until suddenly only feces batman.
We need some missiles, we need some tomahawks, we need
some bunker busters, and the shelves are empty. Well that's
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kind of where we are right now, and I think
Trump is I don't I don't know what Trump's going
to do in Ukraine. I know He's resumed. Well, first,
let's back up. There was never really any significant pause
in delivery of material to Ukraine in the first place.
There was a moment where the DoD was doing kind of,
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for lack of a better term, they were doing an
assessment and we'll call it an inventory to see kind
of like, uh, guys, let's go walk through the grocery
store and see what we have. Let's see what's on
the shelves. And then when Putin started really bombing the
crap out of you know, Kiv again, then Trump, you know,
started making sure that the supplies were going back. I
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don't know what he's going to do. I'll see what
Egene Ping is doing. He's doing eaxactly what the Pentagon
is doing. He's seriously considering whether the depletion, the depletion
of our weapons thogpiles, what it means for him, because
you know, in the bowels of the Pentagon, they're looking
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at their assessment or inventory, whatever you want to call it,
and they're trying to assess and determine what does that
mean for us if Tryina invades Taiwan or makes a
move on the Philippines, or Australia for that matter, or
South Korea or Japan. In fact, She King's Foreign minister
Wang Yi made remarks just this week to European diplomats
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implying that China sees strategic benefit in a prolonged conflict
in Ukraine because why because it keeps the United States
and our allies and all of our resources of both
US and our allies tied up in Europe. So our
grandiose promises. Those supposed demonstrations of will they don't intimidate China,
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not when they're followed up in delayed deliveries and delaying credibility. Now,
Hockey is foreign policy advisors are correct that American will
and our wilfulness does matter. That is our deterrence. You know,
Trump's really doing the yeomen's work in terms of talking
about peace through strength. But our credibility is that is
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built on our on matching our promise to those resources
and American citizens' willingness to back it up when necessary.
I'm afraid though, that US foreign policy making is increasingly
reserved to an insulated coterie around the White House, which
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is disconnected from the people whose blood and treasure is
ultimately on the line. I think Trump truly does believe
in peace, and he truly does believe in peace through strength,
and he really does want us to have the strongest, mightiest,
most fearsome military in the world. He's got to bring
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along the American people because I don't think Americans have
the stomach for it. And I think too when we
realize that Biden's Ukraine policy has just completely gone off
the rails, It's fallen into a There's a large majority
of Americans going all the way back to twenty twenty
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two said they supported Ukraine in its defensive war. Well,
I think that's a reflection of a morally sensible belief
that Russia was the unjust aggressor. But even then, at
the very beginning of the Russian Ukraine War, when you
got into the granular polling, it showed that American citizens
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appetite for actual involvement in the conflict was severely limited.
Those early surveys showed that only twenty six percent of
Americans thought that we should play a major role in
the conflict. Another survey back in February of twenty twenty
two asked specifically Republican voters in Pennsylvania what their preferred
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response to Putin's invasion of the Ukraine was only twenty
three percent. Less than a quarter chose arm and support
the Ukraine resistance so they can kill as many Russians
as possible. That was the preferred policy of then President
Biden and the Foreign Policy Court. Forty five percent said
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impose the strongest possible sanctions on Russia and then seek
a diplomatic deal. So the Biden White House built its
Ukraine policy in the gap between the United States view
of the war's justice and the resources it was willing
to contribute. Well, that ends up, presenting a moral hazard
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for Ukraine's leaders, whose war calculus has been distorted by
the fantasy of an endless superpower backing them up. I
simply question whether we can continue to do that, or
if we do that, we do it at our own peril.
I think Trump's preference for a negotiated end to the
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Rain War is right in sync with his desire to
refocus on China. It also takes more seriously the limits
that are imposed by our current supply constraints. And I
think it also is more in line with the willingness
or unwillingness, depending on which side of the things you
want to look at it. The willingness or the unwillingness
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of the American people to involve their honor, their weapons,
and their treasure and foreign wars. You know, Trump used
to put his name on conceit on casinos where some
men tried to save themselves by throwing good money that bad.
But unlike those casinos where he just went bankrupt. There
are no blank checks in foreign policy, because when you
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try to make good on promises for whatever it takes,
for as long as it takes, that leads to two
things that we need to avoid. Strategic exhaustion and moral collapse.
We make promises we can't keep. That endangers not just
our allies. I think that endangers us domestically. And the
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weakness of America is you know, if you look at
all I often talked about the tipping points, and any
of these tipping points out here, could you know in
a third or fourth degree of occurrence could lead to
World War three? Well, there's one tipping point that could
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immediately lead to a World War three, and that's for
our enemies to understand, believe, or have the intel that
shows that we have depleted our military supplies, that the
grocery store shelves are empty, Thehawk, the Tomahawk section of
the grocery store is closed off. The submarine ship building,
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Oh maybe twenty forty, Yes, fifteen years from or We
get the prototypes of the new version of the Bunker
Busters and we go test them and they're well, they're delayed,
they're behind schedule, they're over budget, and they don't work,
and we've got to go back to the drawing board.
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I don't know who's doing the prototypes. I don't know
whether it's Lockheed or Northwork, Grum. It doesn't make a
difference to me. But whomever it is now we'll have
to go back to the drawing board. So anytime that
you hear Trump talk about peace through strength, think beyond
the slogan and realize what that means. That we have
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to have the ability the capacity to back that up.
I'm not sure we do.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
You've never had a hamburg cheeseberg. Hey, dairy Queen, are
you kidding me? They're really pretty good. They're a ton
better than MacDonald's. Truthfully, go try it. I didn't make
fun of me, Michael.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
The last time I went to Dairy Queen. I didn't
even get ice cream. I had a beautiful double cheeseburger
with lettuce and tomato, and they have crinkle cut French
fries and a diet coke. It was so good.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Bye, Brownie Dragon. I tell you what, Dairy Queen got
one hell of a good burger. And those onion rings,
Oh my god, really so.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
The middle one.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
The the.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Female voice, uh huh describing the cheeseburger, you know, and
then lettuce and tomato, and then she said crinkle cut fries.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Oh somebody, Michael not a fan of crinkle cut fry.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
No.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
I was like, oh, are you. You are okay, all right,
but I.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Don't know where the closest dairy queen is to excuse
me while.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I uh whip this out, blazing saddle blazing saddles movie quote.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Excuse me while I whipped this out. Let's see. Oh
there's one on South Universal, South University Centennial, Greenwood Village. Hmmm,
well we may know now what's for lunch? I've never
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and they were all, we're not making fun of you
at all, because you were absolutely dead serious about first
the first one better than McDonald's. The second one she
got me with the crinkle fries, and then what did
the old farts say? I forgot it because I just
I don't gu the onion ring, onion rings, onion rings.
That's right.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Never once have I ever thought getting real food in
quotes from a dairy queen.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Are you tempted to try it now.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
A little bit? Because I just played three talkbacks.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
We got almost a half a dozen, and it did
twice that many talking about how good the dairy queen
food is.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Well, Warren Buffett, you know, is what does he own it?
Or he's the majority stockholder or something, so he knows
there must be something there I think he gets dairy
Quean for free for life.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
But who knew? All these people knew I well, obviously
you and I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
We had no clue. And now all seriously, all I
can think about, because you know, I fast in the mornings,
all I can think about right now because she had
me when she described the cheeseburger. It was such a
good description, and then she had the crinkle fries to it,
and then of course the diet coke. That's my order
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right there. Yeah, I guess it's dairy Queen today. And
that was one on the lists, number four.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
It was after Taco Bell. Was after Taco to Taco Bell.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I have to meet when I was out of town,
had to take care of stuff. Last week, I stopped
at a Sonic on the way back from New Mexico
and stopped as it was really bad, really bad,
Good morning, Michael and Dragon. What horrors are in store
for us today?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Well, Dragon, I are laughing during the break about our
two bugaboos. The last bugaboo has to do with the
sound bite we had to talk back at the beginning
of the program about Michelle Obama has a podcast. Well,
in my clipping in my clips folder this morning is
(00:32):
a short forty four second clip. I'll just play the
first half of it. Michelle Obama talking to Elaine what's
your name? Julia Lewis Dreyfus, Elaine from Seinfeld and some
guy who's got a podcast, and they're talking about women
and women.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
We have so many landmines and barriers and dumps and limitations.
It's you know, I mean, Craig, you're the guy at
the table, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So Dragon's got a bugaboo about that.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I'm the son of a very strong, independent woman who
has been a business owner almost her entire life. She
started the subway franchise, one of the first ones in
Colorado in the eighties as a woman. So don't tell
me something almost forty years ago that a woman can do. No,
it's so hard being a woman. And I can go
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back even further. The foods that built America or whatever
post the post serial corporation. Yeah, not founder was a woman,
but the second CEO a woman. Nineteen fourteen. Shut the
hell up about being a woman. Yeah, I know, I'm
not a woman. I don't live in your shoes or
your high heels or whatever you happen to wear. But no,
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it's hard being a person.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Shut up.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But don't you find it fascinating that she is the
first Obama is she's called the first live, she's first leg,
but she's she's the first truly black first lady.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Obama was half black, half white, so they got that.
She was raised in a nuclear family, a mother and
a father, siblings, had had a very good, probably upper
middle class upbringing, and she had it hard.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
It's so hard. It's just so it's hard, just being
a person. Shut up about being a man or a
woman or whatever. It's just hard living out there right now.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Any and then, my bugaboo is and I love the
woman that does our traffic report. I love her to death.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
She make our asses. Huh, she can kick our she.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Can literally kick our asses, because yes, she literally can,
because she's that good at that. And she's also a
fantastic musician. She's got a wonderful band. But this is
not her fault. She's just the messenger. They'll be heard
in the six o'clock news that there was a ground
stop at Denver International Airport for those of you that
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are going to get Denver International Airport now. I just
did a quick search and I went to the Flydenver
dot com. The ground stop was lifted quite a while ago,
but it gets repeated again this hour. And that kind
of stuff is a bugaboo to me because it's just
(03:26):
it shows just this and again not on Susan's part
at all, but just shows a sloppiness of because everybody
in in my heart's got five thousand different jobs to do,
and so they you know, and the sources that they
get stuff from. For example, yesterday I got an email
(03:47):
from somebody that said there is a potential sponsor blah
blah blah blah blah and whatever. The I'm not going
to say what the product or service was, but I thought, oh, wow,
that would be I would love to have that one.
And so I didn't know, like, and there's no way
for me to ascertain is that somebody new here? So
(04:07):
I wrote this person back and said, I'm sorry, but
you know, nice to meet you. I would be particularly
interested in that sponsor because of my former position of
being the under secretary of One Man Security. The guy's
not from here. The guy is from I've spoken or
I don't know, Fort Lauderdale somewhere, and he's filling in
(04:30):
for Edie, who does the national stuffy And so he
was like, oh, holy crap. No, I wasn't aware of that.
I'm just filling in for Edie. I had no idea
who any of you are. But yeah, that would be
a perfect match. Let me get to work on that. Now.
Have I not responded? Now, it's not there's no guarantee
(04:53):
I would get that sponsor. But had I not responded,
I think it was just a blast email to just okay,
looking for the Denver market. All just send it every
on air person in the Denver market without considering that, oh,
there might be somebody unique that might be a really
good fit for that. Oh tries me nuts, and then
what are we supposed to do?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
The email that Yeah, I don't know if you want
to be careful, but.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I know I'm not as as far as I'm going.
You know what, I'm talking about it really business me.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Off for uh uh, let's go to Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
This has bothered me now for well for several months.
Remember when Biden promised, uh, promise to Ukraine and Zelensky
whatever it takes in American support and whatever it takes
for as long as it takes. And remember my my
(05:55):
bugaboo about that I got. I got a lot of
bugaboos this morning. I need to get inoculated. I need it,
you know, I need a like I need Pfizer to
come up with a bugaboo vaccine that would be as
effective as their COVID to take care of my bugaboos.
(06:16):
So Biden was always out there talking about We'll give
you whatever it takes, as long as it takes, which
is just a totally open ended like here, here's the
credit card. There's no limit on the credit card, just
to do huh check blank check, just whatever you need
and when you you know, if you run out of checks,
we'll send you a new box of checks. Just keep
writing checks, and no strategy whatsoever of how to win,
(06:41):
just whatever it takes. Now, I'm certain in Biden's mind
that was meant to be inspiring. You know, we're going
to be here for as long as it takes, whatever
it takes. Blah blah, blah blah blah. No, it was
not inspiring, it was flippant, and it was an unrealistic
(07:02):
promise from the outset. And now I'm afraid for not
just Ukraine, but for a whole host of reasons that
that promise rings hollow. Now Trump has promised to send
more weapons to Ukraine, and the administration is reportedly scrambling
to source the desired Patriot missile platform and the highly
(07:26):
in demand interceptors from our allies. Not from our stockpiles,
but from our allies. Trump's initial instinct to husband resources
was very sound. The President is now increasingly forced to
(07:49):
choose between Ukraine's present and increasing needs and our country's
own present readiness. The fact is this is just factually true.
Our foreign policy doesn't add up. The commitments made by
(08:12):
previous administrations exceed our ability to meet them. Our promises
have been outrunning our supply lines, and worst policy makers
have been trying for decades now, yet literally decades, Because
this was an issue when I was in the belly
(08:32):
of the beast, to try to come up with a
model for achieving foreign policy aims extra democratically. What I
mean by that, well, the use of air power, covert operations,
drone warfare, promiscuous outsourcing to local proxies. That really becomes
(08:53):
an emission that we cannot be brought to support these
foreign policy goals because Americans are now risk averse. We
don't like the costs of these things. And I'm trying
to be as neutral as I can be here. Whether
(09:14):
you think any particular conflict, any particular form policy is
the right one or the wrong one, does not make
any difference in terms of what I'm talking about. The
fact is Americans don't want to take on risks, even
if those are very real, legitimate risks. And we're concerned about,
(09:37):
rightfully so, the costs of everything that's gone on before,
and we really ought to be concerned about the cost
of anything that may be coming down the pike, that's
around the corner that we haven't looked at yet. When
you add all that together, it is a recipe for
absolutely launching idealistic policy and then just leaving it as
(10:02):
an orphan over here because you have no mechanism by
which to support that policy. I'll give you an example.
Do you remember when Pete Hegsath, the Secretary of Defense,
promised what he called an unrelenting campaign against the Hoothies
because the Houthis were harassing global shipping from Yemen. They
(10:28):
were harassing from Yemen, the global shipping in the Gulf
of Arabia and the Red Sea and the entire region.
He said, and I quote, the minute the Houthies say
we'll stop shooting at your ships, will stop shooting at
your drones, this campaign will then end. That was his promise. Well,
(10:53):
so what did we do. We spent hundreds of millions
of dollars in munitions, dropping hundreds of two thousand pounds bond.
We used up seventy five Tomahawk missiles. We used probably
the best I can guess, best I can ascertain, more
than twenty eight GM cruise missiles. Well, the hoo Thies
(11:14):
have not relented. They're using their cheap weapons that they
have on hand. Well, the mounting costs led to the
United States then working out an agreement with the Uranian
backed group. Hey, let's okay, let's cut a deal. Why
would we cut a deal because we looked we went
to the grocery store, and we went to the aisle
(11:36):
that said two thousand pound bombs, and the shelves were
getting pretty low. We went to the Tomahawk section of
the grocery store. Uh oh, we're out. And in so
far as the cruise missiles, best section has been roped
off until we you know, get until the wholesaler, until
(12:00):
the delivery truck shows up. Now, far from being some
sort of novelty imposed by the Trump administration, this country
has been triaging its resources among existing conflicts for years now.
In late twenty twenty three, we redirected tens of thousands
(12:21):
of one five to five millimeters artillery shells allocated for Ukraine.
We sent those to Israel. In early June, twenty thousand
anti dron missiles apkws's were diverted to the Middle East
to protect US troops from potential Iranian retaliation. And well,
speaking of Iran, we used a significant portion of the
(12:46):
so called bunker busters, the GBU fifty seven A and B,
the mops bombs. We used this significant portion of those
on Iran's nuclear facilities. Sean Parnell used to have a podcast.
He's now the chief Pentagon spokesman, said the bombing raids
(13:06):
had set back Around's nuke program by one or two years.
Trump says it obliterated it. Whether it obliterated it or
it set it back by one or two years, both
of those things can be true. We could have obliterated it,
and by obliterating it, they have the mechanism by which
started up again in two or three years. But regardless
(13:26):
of don't get hung up on the semantics. But if
the estimate is true that we set it back by
two or three years, it means that the Uranians might
have its nuclear program back to where it was before
we have replenshed the bombs used to set them back
in the first place. For example, we have a next
generation penetrator. This is the next generation of the MOPS
(13:51):
bombs of the bunker busters. Well, that successor to the
MOP is due for initial prototypes, not for another eighteen
to twenty four months, So we'll get a prototype sometime
in the next year and a half two years. My
guess is will be longer than two years, because nothing's
(14:12):
ever delivered on time by the government and by defense contractors.
It'll be over budget, it'll be behind schedule, and it'll
be a prototype and we'll take it out to Area
fifty one or some other bombing range, and we'll test
it and hope to God that it works. It may
or may not, and if it doesn't, we're still behind
(14:34):
in terms of inventory on the GBU fifty seven am bs.
The hard truth is the American military industrial complex, the
base we're just simply not producing fast enough, and those
are and that reaps consequences for American foreign policy and
(14:55):
our allies, and those are serious consequences. So after eighty Ukraine,
it's going to take us years to replenish our own
supply of stingers. Guess who else wants our stingers? Taiwan.
The Aucus Naval Agreement where the United Kingdom and Americans
(15:15):
step in front of France to provide Australia with naval
ships because of everything that the Chinese Communist Party is
doing in the South China Sea. Will guess what that's
under review. The deal was already expected to delay the
first ships from reaching Australia from the early twenty thirties
(15:40):
to the early twenty forties, but even beyond that, we're
already experiencing multi year delays and massive cost overruns in
the production of the Virginia class submarines. Which are essential
for the first phase of the Aucus agreement. Now, the
the defense hawks in both parties, Democrats and Republicans. They're
(16:05):
arguing that the only way to prevent China from making
an attempt at Taiwan and from breaking our supremacy in
the Pacific is to back Ukraine in Israel to the hilt,
because their theory is that we can deter Eugene Pin
by demonstrating our sheer will, our sheer willingness to defend
(16:25):
our allies. Well that theory, and it is a theory
of de terms that obviously appeals to a bunch of
columnists and pundits whose stances risk them nothing. But what
(16:46):
do you think Eugene Ping is doing right now?
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Another good example of a woman is that I think
they're called the Alvlorado family. They started the taco bells
in Colorado and they own oh man, they think they
owned like three hundred taco bells. And it was a
lady that started that. She had a construction company. Her
husband did help out, but she was the main person
on it.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Goodbar, I have on my desk from my illustrious producer
ten least healthy fast food chains revealed. Here's where your
guilty pleasure fails. Number one, Wendy's, number two, Sawny, and
(17:46):
coming in at number three, the ladies are trying to
kill us, Taco Bell, worth It and Dairy Queen, KFC, Quizno's,
MacDonald Smash Burger, Little Caesars, and Chick fil.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
A, But an ice cream place comes fourth on the list,
after burgers, Tacos, and what.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Are the other The other one was Taco Bell, Dairy Queen, KFC,
quiz Nos, Mac d S, Smash Burger, Little Caesar's, Chick
fil A.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
The Wendy's is worse than ice cream.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Well, you can get burgers and fries and stuff at
Dairy Queen too.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yeah, I suppose so.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
But whoever has give me a talkback or a text
message if you have eaten real food quote unquote real food,
not not ice cream food at a dairy Queen.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I don't think I've ever had anything except vanilla cone dipped.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
In chocolate cookyo blizzard. Oh really yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Maybe an ice cream cake or two for the kids
birthday party.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I don't think we've ever done that. But a.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Hot dog or a burger, chicken wings or whatever they
happen to have.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I seriously want to know, semi a talk pack or
semi at text messages, you have gotten non ice cream
food at a dairy queen.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
All right, So back to Ukraine in this and my
concern about the military industrial complex, and everybody likes to
bitch about the military industrial complex until suddenly only feces batman.
We need some missiles, we need some tomahawks, we need
some bunker busters, and the shelves are empty. Well that's
(19:35):
kind of where we are right now, and I think
Trump is I don't I don't know what Trump's going
to do in Ukraine. I know He's resumed. Well, first,
let's back up. There was never really any significant pause
in delivery of material to Ukraine in the first place.
There was a moment where the DoD was doing kind of,
(19:58):
for lack of a better term, they were doing an
assessment and we'll call it an inventory to see kind
of like, uh, guys, let's go walk through the grocery
store and see what we have. Let's see what's on
the shelves. And then when Putin started really bombing the
crap out of you know, Kiv again, then Trump, you know,
started making sure that the supplies were going back. I
(20:21):
don't know what he's going to do. I'll see what
Egene Ping is doing. He's doing eaxactly what the Pentagon
is doing. He's seriously considering whether the depletion, the depletion
of our weapons thogpiles, what it means for him, because
you know, in the bowels of the Pentagon, they're looking
(20:42):
at their assessment or inventory, whatever you want to call it,
and they're trying to assess and determine what does that
mean for us if Tryina invades Taiwan or makes a
move on the Philippines, or Australia for that matter, or
South Korea or Japan. In fact, She King's Foreign minister
Wang Yi made remarks just this week to European diplomats
(21:05):
implying that China sees strategic benefit in a prolonged conflict
in Ukraine because why because it keeps the United States
and our allies and all of our resources of both
US and our allies tied up in Europe. So our
grandiose promises. Those supposed demonstrations of will they don't intimidate China,
(21:31):
not when they're followed up in delayed deliveries and delaying credibility. Now,
Hockey is foreign policy advisors are correct that American will
and our wilfulness does matter. That is our deterrence. You know,
Trump's really doing the yeomen's work in terms of talking
about peace through strength. But our credibility is that is
(21:56):
built on our on matching our promise to those resources
and American citizens' willingness to back it up when necessary.
I'm afraid though, that US foreign policy making is increasingly
reserved to an insulated coterie around the White House, which
(22:18):
is disconnected from the people whose blood and treasure is
ultimately on the line. I think Trump truly does believe
in peace, and he truly does believe in peace through strength,
and he really does want us to have the strongest, mightiest,
most fearsome military in the world. He's got to bring
(22:44):
along the American people because I don't think Americans have
the stomach for it. And I think too when we
realize that Biden's Ukraine policy has just completely gone off
the rails, It's fallen into a There's a large majority
of Americans going all the way back to twenty twenty
(23:05):
two said they supported Ukraine in its defensive war. Well,
I think that's a reflection of a morally sensible belief
that Russia was the unjust aggressor. But even then, at
the very beginning of the Russian Ukraine War, when you
got into the granular polling, it showed that American citizens
(23:32):
appetite for actual involvement in the conflict was severely limited.
Those early surveys showed that only twenty six percent of
Americans thought that we should play a major role in
the conflict. Another survey back in February of twenty twenty
two asked specifically Republican voters in Pennsylvania what their preferred
(23:56):
response to Putin's invasion of the Ukraine was only twenty
three percent. Less than a quarter chose arm and support
the Ukraine resistance so they can kill as many Russians
as possible. That was the preferred policy of then President
Biden and the Foreign Policy Court. Forty five percent said
(24:16):
impose the strongest possible sanctions on Russia and then seek
a diplomatic deal. So the Biden White House built its
Ukraine policy in the gap between the United States view
of the war's justice and the resources it was willing
to contribute. Well, that ends up, presenting a moral hazard
(24:38):
for Ukraine's leaders, whose war calculus has been distorted by
the fantasy of an endless superpower backing them up. I
simply question whether we can continue to do that, or
if we do that, we do it at our own peril.
I think Trump's preference for a negotiated end to the
(24:59):
Rain War is right in sync with his desire to
refocus on China. It also takes more seriously the limits
that are imposed by our current supply constraints. And I
think it also is more in line with the willingness
or unwillingness, depending on which side of the things you
want to look at it. The willingness or the unwillingness
(25:20):
of the American people to involve their honor, their weapons,
and their treasure and foreign wars. You know, Trump used
to put his name on conceit on casinos where some
men tried to save themselves by throwing good money that bad.
But unlike those casinos where he just went bankrupt. There
are no blank checks in foreign policy, because when you
(25:43):
try to make good on promises for whatever it takes,
for as long as it takes, that leads to two
things that we need to avoid. Strategic exhaustion and moral collapse.
We make promises we can't keep. That endangers not just
our allies. I think that endangers us domestically. And the
(26:09):
weakness of America is you know, if you look at
all I often talked about the tipping points, and any
of these tipping points out here, could you know in
a third or fourth degree of occurrence could lead to
World War three? Well, there's one tipping point that could
(26:30):
immediately lead to a World War three, and that's for
our enemies to understand, believe, or have the intel that
shows that we have depleted our military supplies, that the
grocery store shelves are empty, Thehawk, the Tomahawk section of
the grocery store is closed off. The submarine ship building,
(26:55):
Oh maybe twenty forty, Yes, fifteen years from or We
get the prototypes of the new version of the Bunker
Busters and we go test them and they're well, they're delayed,
they're behind schedule, they're over budget, and they don't work,
and we've got to go back to the drawing board.
(27:17):
I don't know who's doing the prototypes. I don't know
whether it's Lockheed or Northwork, Grum. It doesn't make a
difference to me. But whomever it is now we'll have
to go back to the drawing board. So anytime that
you hear Trump talk about peace through strength, think beyond
the slogan and realize what that means. That we have
(27:39):
to have the ability the capacity to back that up.
I'm not sure we do.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
You've never had a hamburg cheeseberg. Hey, dairy Queen, are
you kidding me? They're really pretty good. They're a ton
better than MacDonald's. Truthfully, go try it. I didn't make
fun of me, Michael.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
The last time I went to Dairy Queen. I didn't
even get ice cream. I had a beautiful double cheeseburger
with lettuce and tomato, and they have crinkle cut French
fries and a diet coke. It was so good.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Bye, Brownie Dragon. I tell you what, Dairy Queen got
one hell of a good burger. And those onion rings,
Oh my god, really so.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
The middle one.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
The the.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Female voice, uh huh describing the cheeseburger, you know, and
then lettuce and tomato, and then she said crinkle cut fries.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Oh somebody, Michael not a fan of crinkle cut fry.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
No.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
I was like, oh, are you. You are okay, all right,
but I.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Don't know where the closest dairy queen is to excuse
me while.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I uh whip this out, blazing saddle blazing saddles movie quote.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Excuse me while I whipped this out. Let's see. Oh
there's one on South Universal, South University Centennial, Greenwood Village. Hmmm,
well we may know now what's for lunch? I've never
(29:39):
and they were all, we're not making fun of you
at all, because you were absolutely dead serious about first
the first one better than McDonald's. The second one she
got me with the crinkle fries, and then what did
the old farts say? I forgot it because I just
I don't gu the onion ring, onion rings, onion rings.
That's right.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Never once have I ever thought getting real food in
quotes from a dairy queen.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Are you tempted to try it now.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
A little bit? Because I just played three talkbacks.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
We got almost a half a dozen, and it did
twice that many talking about how good the dairy queen
food is.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Well, Warren Buffett, you know, is what does he own it?
Or he's the majority stockholder or something, so he knows
there must be something there I think he gets dairy
Quean for free for life.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
But who knew? All these people knew I well, obviously
you and I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
We had no clue. And now all seriously, all I
can think about, because you know, I fast in the mornings,
all I can think about right now because she had
me when she described the cheeseburger. It was such a
good description, and then she had the crinkle fries to it,
and then of course the diet coke. That's my order
(31:00):
right there. Yeah, I guess it's dairy Queen today. And
that was one on the lists, number four.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
It was after Taco Bell. Was after Taco to Taco Bell.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I have to meet when I was out of town,
had to take care of stuff. Last week, I stopped
at a Sonic on the way back from New Mexico
and stopped as it was really bad, really bad,
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